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Speaker 1: of the season, the Knicks grew increasingly frustrated with cast

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Speaker 1: defensive habits. Publicly, Knicks players made veil comments all season

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Speaker 1: about poor communications, causing their inconsistency. Behind the scenes, They

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Speaker 1: and coaches expressed frustrations with towns defensive habits, less concerned

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Speaker 1: with his talent level and more with the process on

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Speaker 1: that end. Too often, Towns executed incorrect coverages without communicating

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Speaker 1: why he did it. After it became a theme, players word,

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Speaker 1: Towns didn't a grasp the importance of the matter, the

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Speaker 1: ability to constructively critique became a point of emphasis. Joe,

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe Timms having coached Cat

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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to believe he didn't know what

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Speaker 1: Floors yours, Nah, I think I think he definitely knew,

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Speaker 1: you know, what he was trading for, what they was

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Speaker 1: gonna get out of Cat. Now, I understand they want

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Speaker 1: him to be more of an anchor, you know, for

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Speaker 1: that defense, you know, because he's the big guy. He's

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Speaker 1: the last line of defense. Sim Butt Tall. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: the last line of defense, unk O, Choe and I

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Speaker 1: guess they expect more of a prisons out of him

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Speaker 2: They wanted to play both fans on the floor.

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Speaker 1: Man, they wanted to be a two way big, not

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Speaker 2: But he's never but Joe, He's never been that.

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Speaker 1: Don't I mean, if you buy something chat, no matter

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Speaker 1: you're purchasing. I don't buy a shower curtain hoping. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: what I bought it for. You have to understand when

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Speaker 1: at I'm like, You're like, you're asking Cat to be

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Speaker 2: Cat has never been a defensive anchor.

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Speaker 1: Cat has never really concerned himself about back in because

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Speaker 2: Goheto Joe.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm getting to ask, Now we all understand I'm

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Speaker 3: Tims in this matter, you understand your player strengths and weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: You saying that, and I hear all the time.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to basketball in this era that they

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Speaker 3: don't play that much defense. I know you understand that

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Speaker 3: Cat is an offensive player. You understand that he's a

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Speaker 2: You know that's not what he does. Hey, listen said,

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Speaker 2: where where's the issue coming from? And you know what,

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Speaker 2: you know what you signed up for. I ain't saying

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Speaker 1: He ain't got to beat god Burn, but he gotta

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Speaker 1: just play offense. Like to whom much is giving much

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Speaker 1: you gotta be a presidence down that defensively and offensively.

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Speaker 3: Joe, if he have done that, you think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get me some interest on the end

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Speaker 1: You gotta call out the coverages and all that. Yes,

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Speaker 3: It's a tough job, and you say he's one big

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Speaker 2: Do on the office end. So we gotta get in

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Speaker 1: In the last five games of the series, a seven

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Speaker 1: foot guy had zero blocks. Let that think it for

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Speaker 1: just a second. Yes, chat, you heard me correctly. In

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Speaker 1: five games. So you mean to tell me, at seven

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Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm talking about, just having to talk

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Speaker 1: to knock people off it to make sure a I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make your pursuer. I'm gonna excuse me the way

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Speaker 1: we blood, O Joe. We made you a chaser, not

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Speaker 1: a pursuer. So you're gonna be in a trail position

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Speaker 1: you're not pursuing. You're not gonna catch him at an angle.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to chase him down from behind.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, O Joe. Got a question, Joe, and uh,

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Speaker 2: y'all know better than I do.

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Speaker 1: What year is cat in? Cat got to be in

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Speaker 1: like year eight. Cat came out in what sixteen or seventeen?

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Speaker 1: So he year eleven eleven?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he going into year eleven. Yeah, he just finished

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Speaker 2: your teen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's going into year eleven. So he's played ten

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Speaker 3: years already. So we've seen the simple size enough of

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Speaker 3: a simple size of what type of player Cat is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: understood what you were getting. Now we're going in the

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Speaker 3: year eleven, and now we complaining about him not giving

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Speaker 1: But the difference is the problem. And Joe correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Is that when he played with the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 1: they didn't really they got That's why they got Rudy,

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Speaker 1: so Rudy could take up because they knew Cat wasn't

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Speaker 2: They knew he wasn't gonna be a help, so that's

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Speaker 1: Now you go to Now, you go to the Knicks,

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: We just need you to do a little We're not

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Speaker 1: asking you to do everything that Don Elijah one did.

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Speaker 1: We're not asking you to be Mark Eaton. We're not

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Speaker 1: asking you to be big Ben Wallace, bro. But just

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Speaker 1: just a little effort. Just care, just pretend you care. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Uh okay, I hold yall. I

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Speaker 1: know he was he and yeah eleven, I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: Knicks brought him man, you know, for for his offensive parales,

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Speaker 1: but defensively, he just gotta show more interest on the defensive.

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Speaker 2: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, y'all, can't tell me Kak move his feet,

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Speaker 1: stay with guards, block shots.

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Speaker 2: He can do it.

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Speaker 1: If he wants to, he just chooses not to, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have to exert a lot of energy on the

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Speaker 2: Tough, you know what, but the thing gills on.

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Speaker 1: Yo. They used to make you exert energy to come

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Speaker 1: get that damn check. Now they made a direct deposit.

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Speaker 1: They made it easy.

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Speaker 2: So now nobody got to take their ass upstairs to

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Speaker 2: go to payroll.

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Speaker 1: When I first got to the league, you had to

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Speaker 3: Even if it's direct positive too, and we're gonna open

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Speaker 3: it right there. I need I need, I need over

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Speaker 3: mine right there on the spot. I need to see

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Speaker 3: how much it is. I need to see how much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, they got everything out of minds.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tickets, you got to extra hotel room, they got

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Speaker 2: Towns on the bench. That's what I mean. Look, I

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Speaker 1: Fabulous I sat down and talked with him this past

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Speaker 1: You know, he lost his mom the COVID and you

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Speaker 2: It's like a situation.

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Speaker 1: Oh like, look, there's certain situations you got to blend

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Speaker 2: I got to blend de in. Right.

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Speaker 1: You go to New York and you know they're are

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Speaker 1: to blend in. I'm not saying all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: I got one more question, Let's what's that next year?

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Speaker 1: Why did it have to be See, they're not mutually exclusive.

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Speaker 2: Right drop off? I mean no, Listen, something has to

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Speaker 3: You know that if he hasn't done it for this

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna listen to Uncle, I'm gonna listen to Joe.

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Speaker 3: You know it's gonna suffer him on the office end.

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Speaker 3: Would y'all be upset if his offense have played declines?

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious because no, But here's the thing to

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Speaker 1: Now he might get some easy baskets now all of

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Speaker 1: They see you throw a good block block for Corey dialing.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, they o, Joe, Hey, we

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Speaker 1: got he played for ya, Joe. Now I gotta reward

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Speaker 1: Hey man, let me go get back. Three quick passes

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Speaker 2: Or we call it the skinny post. Joe, So a

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Speaker 4: I don't want to deal with the two yards outside

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Speaker 4: I think if he if I think if he comes

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Speaker 4: on both ends. White can't be lead on both fends. Okay,

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Speaker 4: oh Joe, it ain't but a few bigs in the

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Speaker 2: It's only a few.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you got three ye that can

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Speaker 1: let's include a D, a D, Joel, Embiid, nicolea jokicch Cat.

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Speaker 1: Who are your other big that can score? Whom w

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Speaker 1: Wimben's out? I mean, Womby really ain't trying to bang.

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Speaker 2: Womy, I'm gonna say, Okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So let even if we include Wimbley Wimby, we got five,

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Speaker 2: Other than so, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Just saying, Oh Joe, it's not like he normally, unless

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Speaker 1: He's not going against Joel and bid and normally if

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Speaker 2: Mister Robinson's gonna be on it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he might have to go and if he goes

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Speaker 2: So with that being said.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying just just a little, I mean, and

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Speaker 2: Hey, Oh Joe, I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta put my face basket down, my hand, my knuckles

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Speaker 2: The hell with that? Listen listen.

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Speaker 1: guard Kobe Coche, I gotta guard t Map. Hey, when

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Speaker 1: chasing nobody, Oh I forgot, Joe, we forgot about shun't

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but it ain't.

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Speaker 1: But it ain't but a handful of big And you

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Speaker 1: mean to tell me kak't be Lee Man. Please, let's

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Speaker 1: just let's let's let's ride it up. Let's give it

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Speaker 1: Let's just say we're gonna ride it up. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell me, kat, you can't give me a little more

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Speaker 1: than that. It's not like you playing all ten of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I can see if it was like it was

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Speaker 1: what was that forty seven fifty seven, say forty seven

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Speaker 2: It ain't. It ain't like it's bruise of basketball like

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ain't ain't nobody doing like what Charles Barkler,

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Speaker 1: Karl Malong. They got the ball and it boom boom boom,

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Speaker 1: ain't nobody down like that? Hey, you got big, big,

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Speaker 2: So I don't. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: And and that's what you try and see this what

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Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you know how we do it.

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Speaker 1: Joe, you know how we try to do it when

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Speaker 1: My grandma blocked better than that. You know, we try

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Speaker 1: when you try to, you try to put humor on it.

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Speaker 1: Then you're like, hey, you pull them to this side

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Speaker 2: Man? Man?

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Speaker 1: Come on, hey Sean Man, Hey bro Rod blocking the

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Speaker 1: but like Mike said, that, you don't block he I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. Mike came in in ninety five. I had

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

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Speaker 1: After that ninety five, they tried to trade me. They

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Speaker 1: just said no, the hell with it. Mike called me

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Speaker 1: He said, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: I said, I said, Mike, I'm not upset that you

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Speaker 1: end in football. I'm gonna show you this year and

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna put I'm gonna make you make a decision.

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Speaker 2: I said, I already know what I can do.

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Speaker 1: Can't nobody see me, I said, for the first time

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Speaker 1: in two years, I'm fully healthy, no off season ankle surgery.

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Speaker 1: So I go out there, I leave the league tight ends,

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Speaker 1: Come see me, now, come see me. I'm him, I

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Speaker 1: said you. I said, Mike, you can bring whoever you

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Speaker 1: him in here and beat me for this job, not one.

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Speaker 2: Because you got to think about it. Now. I came.

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Speaker 1: I got drafted as a wide receiver. They moved me

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Speaker 1: I'm two hundred and fifteen pounds in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: the nineties. When they run it, when they run in

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Speaker 2: Now, light you lighting ass man. I leave. I leave

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Speaker 1: I weigh into two o seven. Howay and wide receivers

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Speaker 2: There all of.

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Speaker 1: Them, two fifty two sixty. Look at Kelsey, look out,

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Speaker 1: big Gronk, look at all these guys. Ain't nobody, I said, Mike,

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Speaker 2: He said?

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Speaker 1: be what are these dominatics. I'm not asking you to

435
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 1: be what Washington have or what the Chargers have. He said,

436
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: I just need you to care. Okay, that's what you need.

437
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 2: Got you?

438
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, go look at TV numbers in ninety six, in

439
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: ninety seven, In ninety eight, he went fifteen thirty, he

440
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 1: went seventeen fifty, He went two thousand.

441
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 2: A date, laying the hat, you was laying the hand.

442
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you tell me, hey, you ain't gonna always

443
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 1: put me at the point of attack rope. You asked,

444
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do it? Two twenty eight

445
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 1: with Reggie? What am I supposed to one of the floors?

446
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do with straight hand? Bruce

447
00:20:52,280 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: s fifth, Come on, man, let's be real. Hey, them

448
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 1: boy moving something around?

449
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 2: Ain't that?

450
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? I look I got oh, Joe, I got pride,

451
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: I do got pride. I ain't gonna just let him

452
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: whip my ass all day. But they gonna win more

453
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: than I'm gonna win.

454
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: Let's just be real, absolutely so. But and that's that's Cat.

455
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: Cat still has three three more years left on a

456
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: deal that pays him two hundred and twenty million. Cat

457
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: can go get another deal. Cat came out of house

458
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: Cat nineteen, So cat'st thirty nine. Cat is gonna get

459
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: it another deal. He can go get him another three

460
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar deal. Yeah, how do you gotta do it?

461
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: Twenty Cat twenty nine? Man, come on twenty nine. Hey,

462
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: after next year, if Cat come back, say you know what,

463
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give y'all double double. I'm gonna give y'all

464
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: twenty ten. I'm gonna give y'all two blocks a game.

465
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: Watch them come to Cat say, hey, Cat, you want

466
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: this four year extension for like two fifty Yeah, because

467
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: if he, if he got them type of numbers, gonna

468
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: be back in the East and.

469
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 2: Were gonna be right be right back. Because here's the thing.

470
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: Boston is not gonna be the same the Boston team

471
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: that came into the season this this past season.

472
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: That's not They're not gonna be that same team. We're not.

473
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: Are you saying they're gonna they're gonna have a different team,

474
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: or you're just saying they're not gonna be the same

475
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: because Jason Tatum is not playing Jason Tatum.

476
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: I would I would not be surprised if two or

477
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: two or three players get traded off that team.

478
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: Damn. I would not be surprised. Absolutely not.

479
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, Ojoe, Why am I gonna keep

480
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: it together with no chance of winning a championship? You

481
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna play that big that big ass pay roll,

482
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: go to that second.

483
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: April a repeater tax? Absolutely not.

484
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 3: Well hold on, hold on, I'm just just are you

485
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 3: you know better than me? So you're saying Jaylen Brown

486
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 3: wouldn't be there, I believe he'll be. I think I

487
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: think he.

488
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: Uh uh uh uh holiday holiday? Why two or three

489
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: of that combination is gonna be there, gone, gonna be gone? Okay,

490
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: Presingers might Prezingles might be the first one to go.

491
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: He might be the first ball to drop. Nois, he

492
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: might be the first ball to drop.

493
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: I agree.

494
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, Ojo, I ain't got no chance.

495
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm not winning because guess what, you already lost to

496
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: the Knicks. And you're gonna you lost to the Knicks

497
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: with Jason Tatum doing what he do with how you

498
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: gonna beat him without him?

499
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I got you.

500
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: Okay, the Pacers, the Pacers is not gonna be the

501
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: Pacer is not taking a step back.

502
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: They got guys. They guy to the contract.

503
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: So let's just say for the sake now, all of

504
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: a sudden, we don't know what he's gonna do. They're

505
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: gonna be moves that's gonna be made. But I just

506
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: don't see the Celtics the team that came into the season,

507
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum notwithstanding, I don't see that team. I don't

508
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: see that same team coming back.

509
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: I don't either. Man.

510
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: Like I've always said, I think it's gonna be some

511
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: big moves made this summer, and it's gonna be great

512
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: for the game. It's gonna be great for the games.

513
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. But yeah, I do I agree.

514
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: I think a couple of them guys are gonna be

515
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: going this summer. And I'm not sure what Boston's gonna

516
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: look like next year. Brown Holiday, Derry White, Pretinkas we're

517
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: gonna pull up their salaries and and and with it.

518
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: And because they're already in that second apron because what

519
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: they've wanted to do. The Players Associations said, we don't

520
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: want no more super teams, and the honers say, we

521
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: don't want no more super teams. So we're gonna try

522
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: to make it cost prohibited even if you're winning championships.

523
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, I mean I think they said hold on.

524
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: I think they said in the light.

525
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: Like the last three years, Golden State has spent half

526
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: a billion in luxury tax four hundred and.

527
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: Fifty eight million.

528
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: Yes, boy, yes, Now that's on top of Steph Curry,

529
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid.

530
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: That's on top of Dramond making big dollars.

531
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: So now they took on sixty Jimmy Butler gonna get

532
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: sixty million a year, so they made it really costs prohibitive.

533
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: You got twenty twenty five twenty twenty six.

534
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: Salary, You got Jaylen Brown making fifty three million, you

535
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: got Jason Tatum making fifty four million, You got Holiday

536
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: making thirty two million, you got Porzinga's making thirty million,

537
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: you got Derek White making twenty eight million, and then

538
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: it goes fifty seven for Jaylen Brown, fifty eight Foro Tatum,

539
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: thirty four for holiday Pazingers only has one year left,

540
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: so he's he's a prime candidate because guess what his

541
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: salary coming up the books after next year, so he's prime.

542
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: He could have gone ny percent. He gone Derrick White

543
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: salery after next year thirty million. Then it goes sixty one,

544
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: sixty two, thirty seven, thirty two, then it goes sixty

545
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: four sixty seven.

546
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: It breaking it up, my Brian.

547
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: Hey see now now this this gives people a better perspective.

548
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: You know, let's time I want to talk about reality.

549
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: I don't mean to go away from the game of basketball.

550
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: That's like nine to see why them boys get all

551
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: the pickings. Yeah, okay, but run the numbers down. Huh

552
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: when you're making money like that where you get to

553
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: pick who.

554
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: You want, boy get to shake his stick at it

555
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: and listen whatever whatever you want too.

556
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: What they gonna say, No, Yeah, and Jason Tatums what

557
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven, So guess what in two years?

558
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: So basically by the time he come back good to

559
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: have a good year in twenty six twenty seven, they

560
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna say they gonn want to stand him again for

561
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: another three O Joe, He's twenty seven, depending on how

562
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: He's not gonna play next year. He just played the

563
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: first year, so guess what he'll play. He'll miss twenty five,

564
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: twenty six, he come out and have a good year,

565
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven with two years left. Hey, we

566
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: got three years for you. He gonna come back, right, Oh, Joe? Yeah,

567
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Oh for sure the first perade. If I'm not mistaken,

568
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: if I read correctly, he had the same doctor dou

569
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: his surgery that did Kevin Durant surgery.

570
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: He's straight, if I'm not mistaken.

571
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: Uh, Neil Latrosh doctor Latrosh dig Kobe's at Curland, Joe.

572
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean they have like.

573
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: They if you are La, if you playing in the

574
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: LA market, you're probably gonna go have the surgery at Curland, Joe,

575
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: be at back, shoulder, knee, achilles. They're the best. They

576
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: did my hips, both of them, uh, and did an

577
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: unbelievable job. I mean I was walking unassisted ten days

578
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: the first surgery seven days, the second one unassisted, no walker,

579
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: no kine walking.

580
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: What's the name of the name of the doctor? Uh who?

581
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: Uh at Curland job they did the Achilles?

582
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're Latrosh, so is he does he specialize in

583
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: only the achilles or other areas of the body?

584
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: Uh? Here achilles? They look, they got guys that all

585
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 1: they do is shoulders. They got guys all they do

586
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: is hips. They got guys to do knees. They got

587
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: guys that do are key leads. They got that's a

588
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: and they goody. You think they can fix my my finger?

589
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

590
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: But why because it's stay. It won't straighten up. That's

591
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: that's how it is, just like that.

592
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Good perfect, it's perfect for drinking tea you want. Hey,

593
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: joke my fingers. My finger don't go down, man, it

594
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: just stayed just looking. Hey look we all leave the

595
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 2: game with the war wolves. Bro. Yeah, some for all

596
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: of fashion.

597
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: You're not getting out of no professional spoil thinking you're

598
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna just walk up back. You're gonna be limping upout

599
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: it in some way somehow. It's not got I got lucky,

600
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I had, I had no injuries. But it's just it

601
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: bothered me. My daughter, My daughter and younger kids be

602
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: making fun of me. Baddy, what's wrong with your finger?

603
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: I said, it's not even that bad. You said, straight

604
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 1: it out then, And that's that's that's how I could do.

605
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: You see, hey, Joe, you ever seen Tory hold head

606
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: from playing?

607
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: You see Tory Holt.

608
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: You see Brian ball Dingers if I's uh, I mean

609
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: this finger right here pointing that way.

610
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: Oh that's how toys is. Hey, hey Joe, Tory Tory Holt.

611
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: I think is this this finger right here? It's like

612
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: he can do like this, but the fingers pointing like

613
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: a line of Holland's. He used to he coached us

614
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: when I was in Brooklyn. Line of Holland on his

615
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: left hand. Yeah, point way over here.

616
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: I ain't.

617
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, and you know football. You see Ronnie Rodney

618
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: had a pinky. He cut He cut part of his

619
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: pinky off at the joint. It's like, you're gonna miss

620
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: some time. He like, cut it off. I don't need it.

621
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't do nothing with the pinky anyway.

622
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: Cut it off. He cut it off. He cut He

623
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: got it off in the game, didn't he after the game?

624
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna miss some time, he said, just cut

625
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: it off at the joint.

626
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: You know, so, I mean mine, look at Tori, look

627
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: at Tory hold his hands. But you got it up?

628
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Where is that? Where is that on you screen? Man? Yeah?

629
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: I see it.

630
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, mun yos has got it like his hands like

631
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: that too. You got you got bodies. Yeah, I mean,

632
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how.

633
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how Tory caught the ball. He said

634
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: he take, he would tape, he would take. He took

635
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: two of them together, tap them together. Yeah. I can't

636
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: catch like that.

637
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: I can't catch like that, not catch the two you

638
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: know they you know they catched it to take the

639
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: two fingers together like that.

640
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. No, okay, okay, okay, okay. No.

641
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: You know a lot of offensive lineman taped together because

642
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: you know they and they're.

643
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: Like that and the fingers be going all over the class.

644
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: But I did play with a thumb guard.

645
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I got my u this this thumb, I got it

646
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: bent funky and I had to have a thumbuard on it.

647
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: But that's all. That was all I can do. His

648
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: hands got like that from catching the ball.

649
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: Just like he got caught, got caught into jersey when

650
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Speaker 3: he was blocking.

651
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Speaker 2: Look at all look balls, pinky god lee that that's

652
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: how a lot of you know.

653
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: What's funny is they have procedures where they can fix it,

654
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: but they refuse to do it.

655
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: It's to now. I ain't finna be. I ain't finna be.

656
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't got like I said, unless I absolutely gotta

657
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: have it. It's fine if you like you ain't getting

658
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: it fixed, you get you. I ain't trying to mancuse that.

659
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: They look, they put you under, they want to put

660
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: a caffey in you. I ain't trying to do all that. Hey, hey, hey,

661
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: well you even been under that nine minute times?

662
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: You ain't going out? And look I had to.

663
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: I had both my heels repaired. Joe had one and

664
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: had one in July. They had the other one in February.

665
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: And people like, man, your legs done got small. I said,

666
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: let them cut your heill flexes, let them cut the

667
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: muscles into your heel flexes.

668
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: Let me see.

669
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I beg your legs gonna be, I said, I said,

670
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: but I ain't in pain no more. I gotta I

671
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: got a quality of life. I would just that ain't

672
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: no quality life to be in paid. You can't sit,

673
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: you can't stand, you can't walk, you can't lay it out.

674
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: Man that hell with that, Hey, look, I ain't gonna

675
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: lie to you. That's another reason why I got so

676
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: hooked on yoga. Hot yoga, especially because I had elbow surgery.

677
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 2: I had three. I had four chip bones in my elbow.

678
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: I woke up one morning after we played and my

679
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: arm was just stuck with a lot. It was locked.

680
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: So when I go, when I go to the gym,

681
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: they thought I was playing, I'm like, man, I can't

682
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: extend my arm, so they sent me right to get

683
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: X rays. I got like four chip bones in my socket.

684
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: I had to go.

685
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: It's the same elbow surgeon that Iverson used in Alaballa.

686
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: Andrews hego, Andrews, Yeah, I used and uh but yeah,

687
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: I had that on top of ankle surgery when I

688
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: was in college, so I hadn't been under the knife

689
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: a few times. Man, I'm like, if it wasn't for

690
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: yoga to keep my limbs in that mobility, you know,

691
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: because once you lose that mobility, that's when you start

692
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: to have them injuries. Yeah, because if I'm out was thinking,

693
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: I think Curland job. I think doctor Watkins, Big Watkins

694
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: and Junior is in the Curland job. But they got

695
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: some of the best. They got some of the best.

696
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: I think Anderson is the foot dog. He out of Charlotte.

697
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: He do you know when it has Liz Franks and

698
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: stuff like that. O. Joe turf Toe, he's the guy.

699
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: He's the guy that they go see that.

700
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Lucky.

701
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: The Athletic is reporting that Thibodo has the back end

702
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: of team president Leon Rose and full buy in from

703
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, but the report also adds that team's governor

704
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: James Dolan will make the final determination about the coaching situation.

705
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Changing the coach is lead one lever Rose and Dolan

706
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: can pull in hopes of achieving a different outcome.

707
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: The question is is that does that change anything? Okay,

708
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: we bring somebody else in. Do you think.

709
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: That changes anything? Joe, No, I don't not if you

710
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: don't bring different personnel. And you gotta bring some help,

711
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: get some depth on the bench. That's what they lacking. Yeah,

712
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: stop going. You're starting five out throughout the entire season.

713
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: Then they get in the postseason, it's even more of

714
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: a grind. So as you can see when they got

715
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: later in that series against the Pacers Preston, they just

716
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: got tired.

717
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 2: Man. They just it's only so much they can do. Yep.

718
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: You gotta have a couple of guys who come off

719
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: the bench. And I understand Robinson in the uh in

720
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: the guard and the other little guard. They come off

721
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: the bench. The guard, they come off the Miles McBride, dumcrie,

722
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: I like him too. I like both of them come

723
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: off the bench. But you need you need a few

724
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: more guys, and you need by two or three of them.

725
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Though.

726
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, man, you gotta find some dudes that's hungry.

727
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot of cats out of there, Hong. You

728
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: just gotta find some who you think that's ready to play.

729
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

730
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: His insistence gonna play and starters heavy minutes has long

731
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: drawn by our fans and players, and March mckal bridges,

732
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: who led the Nicks and minutes at thirty seven per game,

733
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: which ranked fourth in the league, voiced his complaints about

734
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: playing so much sometimes it's not fun on the body.

735
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: You want that that as a coach.

736
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: But I also talked to him a little bit, knowing

737
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: that we've got a good enough team where our bitch

738
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: can come in and we don't need to play forty

739
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: eight forty seven minutes a night. But that's but that's

740
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: been his every dame of place. Go back and look

741
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: at Chicago. Look how many minutes roles played. Look how

742
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: many money Jimmy Butler played. Joke him, Noah, look at

743
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: how many minutes they played. Okay, fast forward, go to Minnesota,

744
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: see how many minutes they played. Okay, fast forward, go

745
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: to the Knicks. See how many minutes and starters play.

746
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: You can't play them guys that count of minute thirty

747
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: eight thirty nine minutes a night.

748
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: And then when you get in the postseason, you know

749
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna beat you. You shorten your bitch.

750
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: You gonna be playing them guys forty two forty three minutes,

751
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: forty forty to forty two forty four minutes a night.

752
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: You got to open the round. You got the quarters,

753
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: the Simmis, the quarters of the Simmis, the finals, and

754
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: then you got the NBA Finals. Come on, man, Yeah,

755
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: it's it's tough, but you know, as athlete's man, we're

756
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: getting our own way a lot of times. Ain't none

757
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: of the dudes gonna be coming over the raising hand

758
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: time about I need one.

759
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: Because you know, cut money involved, because I try to

760
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: get a couple of people.

761
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: Hey, you mess around taking my you mess around having

762
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: me sitting over there too long, now you know what

763
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean? So I think, I think, but I think

764
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: in New York, for Tim's case, they definitely need they

765
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: need some depth on old Joe. It's gonna be hard

766
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: to want a tight us you can see, you know,

767
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: especially when they come down to the nitty gritty. It's

768
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to want to tight against some of

769
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: these teams nowadays, they taking away the super team.

770
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to have some guys that's hungry and

771
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: and and are scared of the moment. Look at me.

772
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Well, okay, okay, see thunder depth and the other placers

773
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: death crazy depth Boston.

774
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: What they wanted last year, what to have depth? You

775
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: see what you have?

776
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you you basically okay, give me a superstar,

777
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: give me another guy. Let's say I give you a

778
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: superstar Joe, and then I got your guy. He's he's

779
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: he's not a superstar, but he's a star. He's an

780
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: all He's a he's an All Star, and he's right.

781
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: They're on the cusp of being an All NBA selection.

782
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Then I'm a surrounding with two three quality guys. And

783
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have two three quality guys coming off

784
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: the bench. That's Caruso, that's Wallace, that's Wiggins. Now you

785
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: got j Dove All NBA thirteen made the All Star

786
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: for the first time. I got a superstar in MVP,

787
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: in Shape. I got quality big and role players in

788
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: Check and Hartenstein, Tada. Now go look at the Pacers.

789
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Look at what they got. They don't have a superstar.

790
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: I believe they have two star players with Siakam and

791
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: Haller Burton. And you got guys that understand you're getting

792
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: them hard. You got a Miles Turner, you got a

793
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: Nie Smith. Now coming off the bench, I got Matt

794
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: burn See, I got TJ McConnell, I got over Topping.

795
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: And then you get something.

796
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: You got points you didn't expect TV Thomas Bryant gave

797
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: it ten big points, three or four from the three

798
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: point line. Gave you a block shot two or two

799
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: from the free throw line. You see, that's how you're

800
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to win going going forward. They made it

801
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: so cost prohibited for you to try to stack with

802
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: three alls because you see what happens.

803
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: You get three All Stars and superstars and you ain't

804
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: got no bitch, no yeah.

805
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: But when you trade for these guys, you better understand

806
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: what you're trading for. Because Phoenix y'all traded for brand

807
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: Le Biale. The man was averaging thirty and you expect

808
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: them to come in now, be a defensive stopper, to

809
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: be the third option, to be a role player.

810
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna go for it.

811
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: It is so you gotta get guys, obviously, you gotta

812
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: get guys who are gonna buy in. You're talking about

813
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: the OKCS in Indiana's Yes, everybody on those teams they

814
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: know their job. They know they ruins, and they gonna

815
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: start in it. They not gonna do nothing outside. They

816
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: ain't got no business doing. This is why this is

817
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna make It's gonna make for a great finals because

818
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: this is this is two teams that we have that

819
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: are very discipline and they understand how to win, and

820
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: they play together, they play hard.

821
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good series.

822
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play my role as long as I can,

823
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: and then when if somebody come along and the team

824
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: that I'm on they can't afford me, I'm gonna go

825
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: somewhere else and make big money. But if I can

826
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: win me a ring or two while I'm here playing

827
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: on you know whatever, I'm making ten million, twelve million,

828
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: fourteen whatever. The case may be, and then somebody come

829
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: in and want to drop twenty five thirty on me.

830
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: There you go, I'm gone, yeah, hey, y'all guy.

831
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: If I well, if I played, if I played in

832
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: the NBA young, I would have been like I would

833
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: have been one of them, one of them, betweenty five

834
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: three fifty type dudes. You have been one when of

835
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: them dudes? Get when im when I'm there four year

836
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: three ff three hundred and forty five three fifty.

837
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: Or you with a supermax huh.

838
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: Vision, Hey, Joe, I would have been super max on entertainment,

839
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: a loan forget, forget to play on the court.

840
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: They were gonna have to max you out, no question.

841
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: Hey, they would have maxed me our year two. They

842
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: go back you out, So they go back you out

843
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: of the rookie contract. Hull. They damn the mic Bright

844
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: ain't bank bang Clan.

845
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: TV execs, They they don't care about the NBA Finals ratings.

846
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: According to the USA Today, the NBA Finals featured a

847
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: matchup between the Boston Celtics, the league second most recognizable franchise,

848
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Mavericks, who held from the fourth largest

849
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: metropolitan area in the United States. It averaged eleven point

850
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: three million viewers per game. The chances are the twenty

851
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: twenty five NBA Finals, featuring two decidedly smaller markets, Oklahoma

852
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: City Thunder and the Ineana Pacers, may likely have fewer viewers.

853
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: According to the Athletic, the league doesn't care much about

854
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: how many people actually watch because the NBA is extremely new.

855
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: TV contracts with ESPN, NBC, and Amazon are already setting stone,

856
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: which means the most important revenue is generated regardless of

857
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: what happens in the NBA Finals. There's really no direct

858
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: impact between ratings and financial success, certainly in the near term.

859
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: But if you have bad ratings for the next decade,

860
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: then that limits your TV rights deal. But I don't

861
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: think anyone in the NBA is worried about that right

862
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: now because the revenue for TV are guaranteed. The NBA

863
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: is not hooked on for anything other than long time TV.

864
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: Exactly said, this is the network's problem. Does everyone want

865
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: next Laker Finals?

866
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: Sure?

867
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Oh Joe. When you pay big

868
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: money the advertisers, that's how you recoup your money. That's

869
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: why Football Joe for the two bow commercials, they have

870
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty. They get seven million dollars every

871
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Now, if I got a bad matchup, nah, bro,

872
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be able to do that one because

873
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: I got I gotta recoup something, not just what deside.

874
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: Eleven year seventy seven billion. Eleven year seventy seven billion.

875
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Now I shelled that out, Joe. I got to get

876
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: some of that back. Yeah, I gotta get some of

877
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: that back. I'm not sure what my bad said I

878
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: gave back.

879
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: I gave too much. I gave a billion too much.

880
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: Eleven year, seventy six billion.

881
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what executive what executives said this

882
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: that having two small market teams and the finals doesn't

883
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: matter based on you know, the ratings. I mean, come

884
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: on now, come on now, Yeah.

885
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: It works everything because people not go First of all,

886
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: people not really then that's not like they're watching basketball

887
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: and in droves as it is. At least they want

888
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: the Knicks, they want the Lakers, they want Celtics, they

889
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: want things that they recognize because a lot of people

890
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: are not are not like we watch it because that's

891
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: what we do. A lot of times people are just casual.

892
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Who's playing who? Oklahoma City got a team. I mean,

893
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: that's what that's what people are asking. I mean, if

894
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: you're if you are, if you're a basketball fan, obviously

895
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: you know that you know who Shay is. But there

896
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that just sit down and

897
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: maybe the only time that they watch it is gonna

898
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: be this because people are not sitting around watching. Look,

899
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I promise you if Jacksonville and who's a small market

900
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: NFC team, Jacksonville, Seattle, who's a small market NFC team?

901
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: Oh, Jacksonville, Carolina. You know you don't think the TV

902
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: is like whoa god? That ain't.

903
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Come on, now, you want big markets or

904
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: you want big names. I would like to have them both,

905
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the Lakers, with the Lakers

906
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: and Celtics. I got lad Bird, I got Maggie Johnson,

907
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: I got to Read, I got Michale, I got Worthy,

908
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: I got Parrish. Oh look at the coaches, pat Rowley,

909
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: Casey Jones, Bill Fitch, them, them, them, his story them,

910
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: his story across the board. Oh you got Lebron. Now

911
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: if you got about it, you got a small market.

912
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: But you got Lebron and you got chef Steph. Now

913
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: you got Steph Curry and you got Kevin Durant. Hey, look,

914
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand all that. I understand what you're

915
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I do think this is gonna

916
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: be an interesting find them. So, like, I'm very intrigued

917
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: on how this is gonna go. Uh all of a

918
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: sud I got my pick. But man, the the way

919
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: these teams have played throughout this postseason, especially Indiana being

920
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: an underdog in every three all three rounds, Yeah, I mean,

921
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: how many times we're gonna keep counting?

922
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 2: Mind?

923
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it, I think about it

924
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: for for people that aren't really basketball fans, I think

925
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 3: there's nothing that is going to be able to pull

926
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 3: the viewer who doesn't watch basketball based on the teams

927
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: that are in the finals. Mm hmmm, who's the draw

928
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: outside of s g A if you're not a basketball fan. Now,

929
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: people that love the game of basketball, Joe, you know,

930
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 3: but obviously me, we're gonna, we're gonna we tune it in.

931
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna watch regardless.

932
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch regardless, but you know, through the game.

933
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: But everybody's not a die hard though, O Joe, and

934
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: what you're saying, everybody's not.

935
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: A die hard.

936
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: Now that if the Celtics was playing or the Knickson playing, Hell,

937
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: it could be somebody don't even watch basketball.

938
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: Well, oh yeah, I know about the goddamn Nicks. I

939
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: can relate to you. Even though I don't watch the game.

940
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm finna tune in just because.

941
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shaq says he thinks all markets are the same

942
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: in the NBA, social media is the market now, not

943
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: every market is the same. Nobody cares what city you're

944
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: in anymore. To say the nineties, I don't know if

945
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Well he I think he's saying

946
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: because of social media, the world is a lot smaller,

947
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: meaning it's not many moments that you're gonna miss I

948
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: don't care what no, yeah, yeah, you're gonna catch every moment,

949
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to back in the nineties. You know, if

950
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: you won't watching the game, then you missed it. You

951
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: missed it, you know. But the problem of the Joe

952
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: and O Joe, I think is that when you look

953
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: at it, if the two teams look at let's let's

954
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: let's say let's just say for the sake of argument,

955
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: this was in the NBA Finals on a Tuesday night.

956
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: You watching Indiana and OKC. Now I'm gonna give you

957
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: that same Tuesday night. I'm gonna give you Boston. I'm

958
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: gonna give you Boston and the Lakers. Are you watching,

959
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I give you I'll get I'll tell you what it

960
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: I do. I'll give you the Knis and Golden State.

961
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: You're watching.

962
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: So Marcuts do matter? They do?

963
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen outside of Marcus, the players playing off

964
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: the look that's but see, that's a because here's the thing.

965
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: That's a superstar driven league. That's why you want one,

966
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: and that's why you get him. That's why everybody was shocked. Man,

967
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: y'all got Luca, y'all traded it. He twenties five, He

968
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: about to be here. He's turned twenty six in two months.

969
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: Because they don't come along very often. You're very You're

970
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: very you're very, very lucky.

971
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: If you get a guy and he turns into Luca,

972
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: you get a Lebron James, you do it, you boy,

973
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: you move heam and the nerve to keep him. You

974
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: get a Steph Curry, you get a Jordan, You get

975
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: a magic of Steph Curry.

976
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: Kevin.

977
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: You Hey, if I get a shot Kobe and I

978
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: ain't giving them up now, y'all going down the vine here? No,

979
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: hell nah, that's why when the teams get a quarterback,

980
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: oh joe, quarterbacks has always been the position that they

981
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: had the best best chance of finishing out their career

982
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: with one team.

983
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: Especially if it gets you a good one, because you

984
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 3: understand how hard they are to come by. And hell,

985
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: the casual fingers see that when you wonder why certain

986
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: teams don't have success and they have a marrying a

987
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: murder around the quarterbacks every two to three years.

988
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: Now you see why.

989
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: Shaw's released a tweet today that are now the Utah

990
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: Jazz are hiring Boston Celtics assistant general manager Austin h

991
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: as the franchise's president of basketball operations.

992
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: Huh what's this thing called? What did it start with?

993
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: An inn? Oh? Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad?

994
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: Closes tell me that him and timbow tempts. Uh did

995
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: that you say? His name? Bon Temps, Bon Thomps.

996
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: Ainge has spent the past fourteen years working in Boston

997
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: front office, including the last six of its current general role.

998
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: Danny Ainge is currently the seed on the Jazz. Uh.

999
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: The Internet actor reacted accordingly, no mention who his father's

1000
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: huh good point. Okay, Hey, what y'all thought this was?

1001
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Nah?

1002
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: Thought? Hey, yeah thought yeah thought yeah. I thought they

1003
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: were play pampering over that. They not playing, man, they do.

1004
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Look Look how many Look how many coaches their sons? Oh,

1005
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: Joe and and I don't know if I don't know

1006
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: how often. But hell Rick Adaman son Dave Adaman, he's

1007
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: the coach of what you call him. But I guess

1008
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: his dad didn't have no they didn't have no pull.

1009
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: They ain't help him get nothing. We quick, we quick

1010
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: to do that, but we'll nah man, I want you

1011
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: to get it out of the mud. Huh nah, I

1012
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: lay that phunt down for you could walk comfortably.

1013
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: But you see.

1014
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: But but ain't nobody ain't nobody said nothing. Ain't know

1015
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: how to said a word? Anybody said nothing, no nepartism.

1016
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody saying nothing. Jeans mentioned that no uproar. Hey, hey,

1017
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: I can't lie to say I ain't think hello sean

1018
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: utah jas the hind Boston Seldings Assistant general manager Austin

1019
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: Age what wh whoa whoa woh case When they mentioned Bronnie,

1020
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: they say he's the son of Great Lincoln is great

1021
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: Lebron James. If I didn't know better, why y'alldn't put

1022
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: the son of Don What y'all doing with Lebron? Y'all

1023
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: mentioned y'all mentions the ballad. Oh that's the wife of

1024
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: Lebron James.

1025
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 2: But damn.

1026
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Bryce, Bryce's going to Arizona Lebron James, the youngest son

1027
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: Bryce James chooses.

1028
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: Ef hey love, Yeah, I know this thing go.

1029
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: I wish my kids wanted to be immediate, did damns?

1030
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: You'll have a podcast? Damn your would?

1031
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1032
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean if I knew somebody, if they hey, I don't.

1033
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: In the profession and the field that they're in. I

1034
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: don't really know anybody in that profession, but if I did,

1035
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: I absolutely that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, it's

1036
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: it's that's that's pretty much in anything that you do.

1037
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: It's just like these owners, man, they had they had

1038
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: their kids working. They say, you know they gonna they

1039
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: gonna take right after them.

1040
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: Exactly, Claire, your son and their daughter probably gonna play tennis.

1041
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: Hold up, I think I read eighty percent of the

1042
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: jobs that get filled or never advertised the word of mouth.

1043
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: Hey man, hey, Joe, we hired over here. Man, you

1044
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: want to you want to put it in, you want

1045
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: to feel application. I put a word in for you. Hey, oh, Joe, Man,

1046
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: I heard the hiring down there, such and such. Man,

1047
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: you want to put your na Hey, my boy over there,

1048
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: He'll put a word in for you. Boom, No, application

1049
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: feeled out. Word of mouth, word of mouth. Yeah, that's

1050
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: still the fastest way to get information out. Word of mouth.

1051
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to get in. Uh.

1052
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: The three fastest ways to get information on Joe Man,

1053
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: one man, television, that thing, the three quikest ways to

1054
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: get information out man, and one man will definitely get

1055
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: it out for you.

1056
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1057
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 3: The funny thing about is we could get information out

1058
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: much quicker now to the world by hitting the sin button.

1059
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: That's the this That sin button is powerful. Yeah. Yeah,

1060
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, o Joe, Hey, Joe Man, what's going on?

1061
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: Man?

1062
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: I ain't got hit the hit those thing. I just

1063
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: picked the phone call. Yeah, hey manig hey Joe. They

1064
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: not here. Man.

1065
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: That's a good job, man, they I think I think

1066
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: they start you off at like one twenty five, one fifty.

1067
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: Really yeah, man, I a man. Look, I've been here

1068
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: like seven years, but I'm cool with the bass man.

1069
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: I put a word in for you.

1070
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: Now, yeah he liked me. Hey, speaking of that, I

1071
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: know you got a little connection. Uh you know, I

1072
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: got a little connection with the Atlanta House.

1073
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: I see.

1074
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: Did they hire the GM yet? I don't think so.

1075
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Alexis said, no mention of who his father is. We

1076
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: only care about nepotism when it applies to Broun and Briny, Right, okay,

1077
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: lacoln Central said, y'all gonna cry nepotism or only when

1078
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: it's Lebron. So Danny ain't just been taking his son

1079
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: everywhere you go. Now, that's nepotism, y'all, y'all really true?

1080
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: He's should in the rogues. What the qualifications? Yeah? Yeah?

1081
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: How did he get there for fourteen years? So let

1082
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: me ask you a question. He only been what Danny is? So,

1083
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: so where was where was he before he left and

1084
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: went to Utah? Where was he?

1085
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking where was Danny ainge

1086
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: before he left and went to Utah?

1087
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

1088
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: I got a little tired tonight chat because you know,

1089
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: old cho say he took it nap to day I

1090
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: took him to nap to day two. Yeah, So I

1091
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: just want to chance somewhere. The chance said, So, I

1092
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: just want to know where he started at. Yeah, he

1093
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: was in Bosston Shadow and his daddy. Oh oh really,

1094
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: so you're gonna tell hold on, So how do you

1095
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: get a job?

1096
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: So? Did he did he interview? Did he fill out

1097
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: an application? I just want to know?

1098
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh here interesting? Yeah he didn't have to fill

1099
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: out the application this time. Come on, chat, y'all better

1100
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: come on that picking up. I need y'all, I need

1101
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: y'all to chime in comment. I need y'all to tell

1102
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: me where Austen, son of Danny Aingel was before he

1103
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: got this job in Utah, what organization was in the end,

1104
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: and if you don't mind me asking, was there someone

1105
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: that was connected to him at this organization that he's leaving?

1106
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: M hm? You know what I want to look up there?

1107
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: I want to look up the definition of nepotism because

1108
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: maybe I got to Oh, Joe, babe, I got a

1109
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: different understanding of what nepotism is.

1110
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: Yet you got the right one. You got the right one.

1111
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 3: It just it just is really quiet depending on who's

1112
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: doing it or taken advantage.

1113
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: It says the practice among those with power or influence

1114
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: of favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them

1115
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: a job. Hm hmmmm, uh, I say what is an

1116
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: example of nethotism. A common example is a CEO hiring

1117
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: their niece for a manager position, despite the niece having

1118
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: less experience than other applicants, hiring or promoting unqualified family members.

1119
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: A manager promotes their sibling or to a supervisory role

1120
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: despite the poor performance record, while other more qualified important

1121
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: employees get passed over. So I guess you know, Danny Hie,

1122
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: the most qualified guy he could find, the more qualified.

1123
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: Guy he could find, keep that money.

1124
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: So you know what, us we gotta stop feedling feeling

1125
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: bad when we can put when we can put on

1126
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: m let's put on every time. Now, I want you

1127
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: all guys to come that. Look, don't you come now,

1128
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: cause just like I put your ass here, I put

1129
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: your ass out, I'm gonna need you to do the

1130
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: job now. Absolutely, I'm gonna need you to do the job.

1131
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, we gotta we gotta stop this. We gotta

1132
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: we gotta stop this because this is I don't know

1133
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: how prominent is Joe in the NBA, but oh Joe,

1134
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: you know it's very prominent in the NFL.

1135
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 2: How did look at look at Kyles shanahands coaching.

1136
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: Treat mm hmmm, go look at m go look at

1137
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Look at uh Lafleur, look at uh McDaniel

1138
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: in uh uh in the Miami O'Connell, go look at

1139
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: you go look there guys and see how many of

1140
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: them work.

1141
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: For I'll tell you what. Go back and look at it.

1142
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: What that twenty twelve Pull up Mike Shanahan's coaching tree

1143
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve at Washington.

1144
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: Check this out on your watch, this on Joe.

1145
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will find something to see how many of

1146
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: these guys are actually head coaches.

1147
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: Now, now, his offensive coordinator was Kyle shannonhanded Son.

1148
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: What was Sean McBath. No, I'm I just want to

1149
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: staff from Washington. Hold on, just say a guy, it's

1150
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: gonna be offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. Raheem Morris was defensive

1151
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: back coach.

1152
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: MADDL.

1153
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: N Floyd was quarterback coach. What was Sean McVay. Sean

1154
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: McVay was tight end coach. Mike McDaniel offensive sisters Not

1155
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: do it? Now we go back when they won the

1156
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Who was Sean mcvay's defensive coordinator Raie Moores.

1157
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Go back and look at Sean McVay and look at

1158
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, Zach Taylor. See how they spread it out. Yeah,

1159
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: I ain't got no problem with it. But if we

1160
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: do something like that, we feel bad?

1161
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: Are we complaining about it?

1162
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, I wish my kids want to do

1163
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: something in media, all wanted to do something in coaching.

1164
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: Think I wouldn't call up Kyle, I absolutely would, yep,

1165
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: call up McDaniel and what you call him too?

1166
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: Yep, sure would. They don't want to do nothing, So

1167
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I should go on, Damn, I should.

1168
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: They don't want to do anything.

1169
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: I kid not gonna tell you who their dad is

1170
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: and let you like you gotta know, you gotta know

1171
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: if you they're not volunteering it.

1172
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: Hey, I think I should. I should get into coaching on.

1173
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: You don't want the miles? Huh, you don't want the miles?

1174
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: Not full time like we think about me, coaching, ain't

1175
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: no coaching. Coaching is full time. Ain't no part time

1176
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: coaching full time. It ain't no part time in the NFL,

1177
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: O Joe, It's full time No.

1178
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: I mean we're talking, we talking about nepotism right now,

1179
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: and being that I'm proud of the Brown family, I'm

1180
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: sure they would allow me to do part time assistant

1181
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: receivers coach.

1182
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: Hey go ask if I was to ask, you know,

1183
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: they would say yeah, you know that right.

1184
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: That's why I don't ask, because I'm afraid they're gonna

1185
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: say yeah. That's why it asked Michael Another for the job. Definitely,

1186
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: definitely because the first thing I'm gonna say, Joe, I'm

1187
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: just playing because mister Bowling every time he saw me,

1188
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, hey, whatever you want to do

1189
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: if you want to back said mister Ball, I'm done. Hey, hey,

1190
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: them coaches be putting in some million hours. Boy, Hey,

1191
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking. You got to already know you got to

1192
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: tell me I remember and listen, Hey, I'm telling I

1193
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: have seen it. No, I don't want no part of

1194
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: that because I know I know from like ninety when

1195
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: I when our coach, when we were winning, we were

1196
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: at our apex for that that stretch like ninety six,

1197
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: ninety seven, ninety eight, we went back to we went

1198
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: back to back Super bowls. Uh and we uh we

1199
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: won the division twice. Oh, okay, they putting a hundred

1200
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: dollars a week in.

1201
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ain't playing bro.

1202
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: Ninety to one hundred dollars a week. Now, think about

1203
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: how many how many hours in the twin a seven

1204
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: day week.

1205
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: I done seen Hugh and Marvin and coach Barbara Cowski.

1206
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 3: I have seen the blankets and the pillows, air mattresses,

1207
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: the game get they listen, the game plan to get

1208
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: putting up the what do you call it when you're

1209
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: playing the team that week?

1210
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: What you oh?

1211
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: They are the cut up. They're doing that on the plane.

1212
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: They're breaking that down on the plane. Man, I'm talking, Hey,

1213
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: I's be rid as. I don't know what on that.

1214
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: They laying. They laying, we laying.

1215
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: They go straight and you know back because obviously after

1216
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, nobody could drive to the airport anymore.

1217
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: So everybody going back to going back to the facility complex.

1218
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: They're going upstairs. Man, listen, hey, don't go upstairs. Hit

1219
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: that thing they did all day. Monday, they go home,

1220
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 1: see their wife for a couple of hours with the kids.

1221
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: They back there getting on Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday

1222
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: they get to go home. Thursday, they get to go

1223
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: home at a decent time. They get to go home Thursday,

1224
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: like nine.

1225
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tuesday, you know, they there all day Tuesday.

1226
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 3: That makes you everything ready for Wednesday's practice.

1227
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: And meetings Monday night, Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night,

1228
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: and Wednesday.

1229
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: You there, you there. No, I don't want no part

1230
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: of that on Joe. Oh yo, yeah, Mail, go ahead, Joe.

1231
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: What you want to say is for the same basketball,

1232
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: they breaking down film every day, different teams because we're

1233
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: playing back to bags.

1234
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. It's a lot, man, I've seen

1235
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: it out of witness to

1236
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: The volume