WEBVTT - A Conversation with Jets Special Teams Coordinator Brant Boyer Previewing 2023 (7/4)

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<v Speaker 1>Official pod is presented by win Bet. Betting is a

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<v Speaker 1>at One Jets Drive, joined by Jets Special Teams coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>Bran Boyer. Brent, can you believe it? You're about to

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<v Speaker 1>start your eighth year here with Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, buddy, you know, the time flies, and and

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<v Speaker 2>just thankful for the opportunity to come back, and as

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<v Speaker 2>I am every year, and and you know, the people

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<v Speaker 2>around here and the fans and and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the way people have been around this community and everything

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<v Speaker 2>with my family and my kids have really enjoyed it here,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's been you know, been lucky to be

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<v Speaker 2>here as long as I have.

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<v Speaker 3>And got my.

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<v Speaker 2>Oldest out of school this year, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 2>he graduated, and so it was it's been good for

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<v Speaker 2>the family for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you know about the fan base before you

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<v Speaker 1>started coaching here at sixteen, because you're a former Dolphin

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I always knew how you know, how dedicated they were

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<v Speaker 2>to the Jets and and how loud they were, and

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I think in Miami home games anytime

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<v Speaker 2>I had played obviously when I was when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie down there, you'd have just as many Jets

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<v Speaker 2>fans there was Dolphins fans in Miami. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>fan base is awesome. Man, I don't know, if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a better fan base in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in my opinion, how proud are you of

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<v Speaker 1>your tenure? Considering that you've worked with three different head coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of guys in the NFL who

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to endure that much changeover.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm proud of that, But there's there's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>some work that we need to do. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't real happy with the way things went last year obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 2>need to get fixed, and and you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's part of the process moving forward and and doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the studies that we're doing and trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>the things fixed that need to be fixed. And but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, very very fortunate to to you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the that's organization and everything to h to

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<v Speaker 2>be here as long as I have, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned last year what keeps you up at night?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, those those two punt returns make me sick to

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<v Speaker 2>my stomach. Yeah, you know, it just infuriates me every

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<v Speaker 2>time I even think about it, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's just little technique errors, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly could have coached it better for starting with

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<v Speaker 2>that right, But you know, it's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 2>standing in your lanes and I got to coach coach

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<v Speaker 2>that better this year and and try to identify the

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<v Speaker 2>issues and how we can teach it better so everybody

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<v Speaker 2>understands it and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it all starts and ends with me. Man, got

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<v Speaker 3>to get it fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so damn competitive. Do you think about those moments

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<v Speaker 1>more than maybe a block punt by Jermaine Johnson and

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<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo or a block punt by Michael Clemens in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay? Or a successful fourth down fake in Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>or the on side kick and that improbable comeback. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of big moments on special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's not it's not even close, to be

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<v Speaker 2>honestly like that. That stuff is is so far gone

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind that you know, it's a it's always

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<v Speaker 2>a long season, you know, you you do some things well,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it's like the year before we were

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<v Speaker 2>very bad and committing penalties and.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we made it a big focus and uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were much better this year or last year in penalties,

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of penalties that we had. And and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you you get changed by by making it

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<v Speaker 2>a specific focus of of what you're trying to teach

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<v Speaker 2>the guys and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And and punk.

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<v Speaker 2>Coverage surely is one of those this year. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like it, like it hurt the team, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and it starts with me, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not proud of that for sure, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>pisses me off every time I think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what would you say about Thomas Morse said coming

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<v Speaker 1>back here? And why was that such an important move

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys? Bring Thomas?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that you know, arguably he's been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want my honest opinion, I think he's been

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<v Speaker 2>the best punter in this league as far as controlling returners.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And and uh, you know, he's so consistent and everything

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<v Speaker 2>he does and so deliberate and everything he does, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's such a good human being that it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were really happy to get him back and Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he provides leadership in the room, being around

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<v Speaker 2>for as long as he has and being as good

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<v Speaker 2>for as long as he has, and so it'll it'll uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's great to have him back.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk about that negotiation at all? And when

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<v Speaker 1>he gave him a call and said, hey, listen, we're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in you. You're coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, you know, they they get into the negotiation stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just put right uh called him up and said,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, you know when when uh you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>the legal period is there and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk to him saying, hey man, we want

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<v Speaker 2>you here. And you know how much how much I

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<v Speaker 2>think he in this building thinks you and and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was an absolute pleasure to coach when

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<v Speaker 2>he was here the first time, and uh he did

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<v Speaker 2>a really really nice job for us, and and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just happy to have him back.

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<v Speaker 1>How about his longevity and also, Brent, what he's been

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<v Speaker 1>able to do outside because a lot of times you

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<v Speaker 1>take a dome kicker, maybe you won't have that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of success outside, but he when he was here in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northeast still able to keep it an elite level.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still not going to have the numbers you are

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<v Speaker 1>kicking in a dome in December. But with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an all weather guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He is.

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<v Speaker 2>He is any like you said. He proved it when

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<v Speaker 2>he was here. You know, I thought he did a

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<v Speaker 2>great job. And his longevity is based on how hard

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<v Speaker 2>he works in the weight room, how hard he takes

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<v Speaker 2>care of his body, how hard he you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a guy that goes out all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not a guy that drinks very much.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a guy that you know, he's always training

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<v Speaker 2>and always watching his diet. And and those are the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that the last you know that understand how short

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<v Speaker 2>term this business can really be if you don't take

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<v Speaker 2>care of yourself and the one thing that makes your money,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's your body.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, And if you don't take care of it, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>What should people know about Thomas Sennessee? He resigns in

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<v Speaker 1>an off season. Uh, this guy's consistency, he's just been

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<v Speaker 1>off the charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's It's awesome to see how much he's developed

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<v Speaker 2>since he's been here as a you know, he's starting

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<v Speaker 2>to take a leadership row a little bit too. And

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked him to do that several years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and to see his maturation process of getting better and

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<v Speaker 2>better and better all the time, and and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being more physical blocking and and you know he's assignment.

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<v Speaker 3>Right all the time. And uh, you know, he's just

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<v Speaker 3>an absolute pleasure to coach. The guy. Uh comes to

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<v Speaker 3>work every day.

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<v Speaker 2>You never hear anything, Uh, never hearing complaining about anything

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, your dream of coaching guys like him, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Much does that fly under the radar of what he

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<v Speaker 1>brings to the table because you never have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about this guy's long snap.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's it. It's huge.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and guys that that don't have a snapper

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<v Speaker 2>or the first you know, you realize that when you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I think we lost him in the

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<v Speaker 2>day A game a couple of years ago out there

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<v Speaker 2>on one of the first punts and we had to

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<v Speaker 2>we were holding on to our our shoes there for

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. I think we had to punt eight

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<v Speaker 2>more times or something in that game. And and uh

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<v Speaker 2>so when you miss your snapper, you know, it's hard,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to make it work. It's hard to make

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<v Speaker 2>protection work. And and uh, you know you have.

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<v Speaker 3>To sacrifice in your in your coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, you know, if you don't have a good one

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<v Speaker 2>and and you have to protect your snapper so much,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have a guy that can block and

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that throws bad balls, the punters moving all around,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you don't have to worry about that with

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas And you know, I was just really thankful that

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<v Speaker 2>they got him back, you know, and uh and signed

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<v Speaker 2>him to another another good deal for him.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really happy for him.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Legatron year one? And also I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>back at some quotes besides writing a story about special

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<v Speaker 1>teams in your units, you said during the year that

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<v Speaker 1>you think he's got the ability to set the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>record as far as long as field goal.

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<v Speaker 2>I truly think he does, you know, especially in Denver

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. On a on a good day,

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely he's he's uh, you know, I mean regularly kicks

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<v Speaker 2>him sixty two, sixty three and with plenty left, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even sixty five with plenty left. So I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure got a got a shot to do it

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<v Speaker 2>out in Denver or something like that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's progressively gotten better. I think he had what do

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<v Speaker 2>you have eleven kicks over fifty yards last year or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, way more than anybody else in the league, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you know, I thought he didn't handle

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<v Speaker 2>that really well and hit a couple of really big

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<v Speaker 2>field goals, and and you know, it's to have a

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<v Speaker 2>veteran group like that with with Zee and with Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>and and Haney. I think that all these that that

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<v Speaker 2>room is awesome to coach and awesome to be around

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody really gets along and you can bounce ideas

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<v Speaker 2>off of Hey, what do you guys think here? And

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<v Speaker 2>and here's what I'm thinking, and and they'll sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll tell you the truth, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a really good relationship with all three of him,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's, uh, you know, that's part of it in

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<v Speaker 2>this business.

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<v Speaker 3>And I really like that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to Denver early this season. I think it's week five, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the weather should be pretty good there. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>pregame warm ups, if it's a sunny day in Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>it's let's say it's sixty, how far will you attempt

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<v Speaker 1>it in pregame warmups?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's obviously all based on game situation, how

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<v Speaker 2>you feel when you get to the game, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all how he feels and how he feels like

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<v Speaker 2>he's kicking that day and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But before the game, do you, guys, you let him

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<v Speaker 1>just determine, like how far he wants to take.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have him go back and try to kick

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<v Speaker 2>a seventy yard right, no, you know, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he'll test it a little bit, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>try to kick a sixty in a sixty two or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. You know that he kicks all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and if we feel good about it and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and a half in the game, something like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of sit situation where we feel like we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a shot and you know, we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we'll give it a ride.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, if it's then and a half in Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have little winds at your back. Who knows, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in sixty eight yards something like that, right, I never know.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know.

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<v Speaker 4>Jets fans, we're in our final push and the clock

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Hardy, how much of a pleasure has he been

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<v Speaker 1>to coach for you?

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<v Speaker 2>He's been He's been awesome, the leader he's become in this,

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<v Speaker 2>in this for this team, and and you know what

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<v Speaker 2>he means to our our special Teams group, just is

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<v Speaker 2>uh is huge. And I can't can't say that loud enough.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the guy is is a consummate professional. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>works his butt off, works harder than anybody out there

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<v Speaker 2>on our Special Teams units. You know, and obviously he's

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<v Speaker 2>turned himself into a dominating player and he's gotten better

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<v Speaker 2>since he's been here at multiple phases. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a lot better on kickoff. He's he's always

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty good upon return and he's he's done done

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<v Speaker 2>a really really good job of of you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think taking the coaching and and and like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of times, some of these guys that

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<v Speaker 2>have experienced they you know, they won't listen as well

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<v Speaker 2>as he did. And that the difference in Hardy and

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<v Speaker 2>some other guys is Hardy wants to be coached. And

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<v Speaker 2>and that's awesome when you get a veteran guy that

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<v Speaker 2>has had as much as as as he has that

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<v Speaker 2>that wants to be coaching. He wants to be coach

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<v Speaker 2>hard And and you know, that's a really good example

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<v Speaker 2>to set in the room that there's you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can always learn something, you know, coaches and players, we

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<v Speaker 2>can always learn something. And and uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's part of what makes him great.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of punk coverage. How much do you like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you do have more said kicking nowt

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<v Speaker 1>and you do have Justin on the outside and those

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<v Speaker 1>guys their relationship goes back.

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<v Speaker 3>With long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there there wasn't a happier guy, uh than

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<v Speaker 2>than than Hardy when we when we signed more Stead.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he was, and and that's not demeaning to

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else. But they're, like you said, their their relationship

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<v Speaker 2>goes goes way beyond that. And you know their friends

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<v Speaker 2>off the field and have known each other for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, and and they have a comfort level with

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<v Speaker 2>each other and and uh, you know, and they're both

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<v Speaker 2>really really good players and and some of the best

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<v Speaker 2>at their position.

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<v Speaker 1>Punk coverage not the best punk coverage wise, Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you got the best pair in the league when

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<v Speaker 1>you have Justin and braina?

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<v Speaker 3>I would think so, you know, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That how's Brandon developed there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's developing, He's doing a really nice job, working hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's he's gotten a lot stronger this offseason,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that'll be a big difference. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some good Tantem's in this league, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our two guys. You know, I wouldn't pick another Tantem

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<v Speaker 2>to go go, you know over these two, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of younger guys in the mix too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the return situation we're talking here, we're taping

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<v Speaker 1>here and late spring, early summer. With that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>Braxton Burials the last couple of years obviously a mean

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<v Speaker 1>stay back there for you. Now he signing an off

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<v Speaker 1>season with Miami. How do you look at the landscape now?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you got appreciate what Burios has done, you

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<v Speaker 2>know since he's been here and and uh you all

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<v Speaker 2>missed the guy and the player that he was. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wish him all kinds of luck. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you've got a group of guys that that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see where this goes. You got some very capable

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<v Speaker 2>players out there, and you got the group of young

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<v Speaker 2>guys with some veteran guys and you know, Rantal Cobbs

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<v Speaker 2>done it, Hardman's done it. Uh, Deontay Spencer's done it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you got some young guys like Gibson and

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<v Speaker 2>and uh I isy uh that you know, the rookie

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<v Speaker 2>running back. Uh you know have some kick return stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and Bam and Bam Knight, you know, kick return stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know it'll it'll be a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see where it goes and and see how they

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<v Speaker 2>do in the preseason and and you know throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>offseason here. You know, so I don't I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to make any predictions, but uh, you know, we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 2>we'll find somebody that will do a really good job.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of capable guys there and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>who shakes out at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And you never know what happens with rosters throughout the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>In the National Football League, I wanted to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about that undrafted free agent Xavier Gibson, a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>has got dynamite speed. What did you see from him

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<v Speaker 1>on film during his collegiate career at Stephen F.

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<v Speaker 3>Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's a guy that that is a that is

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<v Speaker 2>a solid catcher. He tracks the ball really well. You

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<v Speaker 2>know I think that, uh, you know, what he does

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<v Speaker 2>better than almost anybody in the in the draft that

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<v Speaker 2>I had seen is is is he will he will

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<v Speaker 2>vertically get you. You know, he'll stretch and he'll cut.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he can put one foot in the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and get vertical on you right away. So he'll get

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<v Speaker 2>you stretching, stretching sideways and then he can put a

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<v Speaker 2>vertical foot in the ground when all these other guys

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<v Speaker 2>are still going sideways. And those guys are really really

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<v Speaker 2>hard to tackle. And you know, I went and worked

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<v Speaker 2>him out, and just to give you a little insight,

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<v Speaker 2>I went and worked him out in uh In Steven F. Austin,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they had to there were storms coming in

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<v Speaker 2>later in the in the afternoon, I drove all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to beautiful Nacadocias, Texas and uh you know, flew

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<v Speaker 2>into Houston, I think, and drove all the way up there,

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<v Speaker 2>but how far I think it was like a three

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<v Speaker 2>hour two and a half three hours. And I drove

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<v Speaker 2>up there and they had to move the practice up

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<v Speaker 2>for spring ball because there were storms coming in. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were starting at eight o'clock. So I

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<v Speaker 2>told him to meet me at seven o'clock or I

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<v Speaker 2>said six forty five, seven o'clock. I'll see you there

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the field. And I showed up at

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<v Speaker 2>six fifteen in the dark. It was pitch dark, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's sitting there waiting on me. So, you know, guys

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<v Speaker 2>like that, You know, I love guys like that that

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<v Speaker 2>are willing to work. And he's a really good kid.

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<v Speaker 2>He works real hard, and you know he's been he's

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<v Speaker 2>been been noticeably training really hard and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 2>with his catch mechanics and things like that. He's done

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<v Speaker 2>a nice job. And you know he's in the mix

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of guys right there, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how he shakes out.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do with a kid like that when

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<v Speaker 1>you're working them out and they're in rural Texas on

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<v Speaker 1>a night.

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<v Speaker 3>In the dark yest half in the dark too.

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty funny because we finished the workout as

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<v Speaker 2>the team's just starting to come out, and and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was pretty funny that you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just putting through all the drills that you can and

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<v Speaker 2>half the time, you know, they're shooting the equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys are shooting the.

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<v Speaker 2>Jugs to him, and and I'm making him run all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place, and and you know, hell, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know if you could see the ball half the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty funny. So it was almost still dark. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but we had to get it done before spring ball started.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got to imagine the scouts are on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone because that's the way this process works. It's

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<v Speaker 1>only seven rounds in the NFL drafts, so the scouts

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<v Speaker 1>got to start targeting guys making those calls and say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to give you a call. We're interested in

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<v Speaker 1>picking you. Up as a non drafted free agent. For you,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it like in terms of him specifically Gibson, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to hope. I was hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>we got him, and you know, I was really happy

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<v Speaker 2>when he obviously when he said, hey, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to come there and play there. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>any kid that's that's willing to work like that, willing

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<v Speaker 2>to show up early and things like he did, Uh

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<v Speaker 2>that that went a long way for me. And and

0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what he the you know, everybody in the

0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 2>in the background, from the coaches, the quipment guys like

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<v Speaker 2>took him to to breakfast after we worked out, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all the people in the town are coming

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<v Speaker 2>up and giving him hugs, and you could tell you

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.040
<v Speaker 2>he's well respected and well liked and and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, that's the kind of person that you want to

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<v Speaker 3>bring to your culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And and uh, you know, hopefully he h he shows

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<v Speaker 2>out and does a really great, you know, good job,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's going to be a hell of

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<v Speaker 2>a competition with with those three or four guys back there,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see who comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of competition, as far as the rookies are concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about some of these late round picks.

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<v Speaker 1>JBC from LSU A Burner, a guy's got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experience playing different positions on defense. Yeah, when you

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<v Speaker 1>take a guy late in the drafts, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be expected to contribute on special teams. Then Zaier Barnes,

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<v Speaker 1>a kid who's long and athletic, he's going to compete

0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.920
<v Speaker 1>for that third linebacker spot. But also then he play

0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:03.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams in college. And then yeah he

0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.440
<v Speaker 1>got a freak in the seventh round. Yeah, the tight

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.680
<v Speaker 1>end from Old Dominion, Zach Koth right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I just I just finished up literally ten

0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.439
<v Speaker 2>minutes ago in our meeting with them, and and you

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<v Speaker 2>know all you know, white eyed, puppy looking kids. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's pretty funny how young these kids look to

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<v Speaker 2>me now in these days. But they're all really good,

0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.240
<v Speaker 2>really good kids, uh, really coming along, learning really well.

0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.640
<v Speaker 2>And uh, you know, you got some other free agent

0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.960
<v Speaker 2>linebackers that are that are gonna get people runs for

0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.320
<v Speaker 2>their money as well, and and uh, you know a

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 2>bunch of rookies that could could possibly help us, and

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, we need some help, and you know, hopefully

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.760
<v Speaker 2>they can come through and and uh, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to you know, Converse has a ton of.

0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Speed and and uh you know.

0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.880
<v Speaker 2>So does the Coons. The tight end and Barns can run,

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and all these guys can run. You know, Now, how

0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>fast can they get up to speed on on scheme

0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.960
<v Speaker 2>and and and physicality and everything that it takes to

0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.240
<v Speaker 2>be in this league? And that's that's what's gonna wait

0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.399
<v Speaker 2>to be seen. But I'm excited about this group, you know,

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Xavier and all these guys, uh, all these rookie players

0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 2>that we brought in and you know, a substantial number

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.359
<v Speaker 2>this year, which is good, and we'll see where it

0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:11.880
<v Speaker 2>shakes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be. It's always interesting from your

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<v Speaker 1>perspective because when you talk about the running back room,

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Bam nightest part of that. But then you draft a

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 1>ban of Condah in the fourth or fifth round out

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.359
<v Speaker 1>of Pittsburgh and you talked about him potentially helping you

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<v Speaker 1>on teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, I mean he's got some solid kickoff

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<v Speaker 2>return production and played some special teams in his younger,

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 2>younger career and uh so you know, he's he's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that everybody's excited about. And we'll put him out

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.359
<v Speaker 2>there and see what happens. You know, Bam was was

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<v Speaker 2>doing a really nice job, you know, kick returning, and

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, it would have been the guy

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<v Speaker 2>if Burrios wasn't here. You know, he had Burios here,

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 2>who was a proven guy. But you know, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have hesitated to put Bam in at all. I mean

0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 2>he was He's a legit returner in this league, I think.

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 3>And and so.

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 2>We'll see, you know, there's a bunch of guys going

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.159
<v Speaker 2>for that spot as well, So we'll see how all

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 2>shakes out and the roster dynamics and and stuff. Hopefully

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:11.800
<v Speaker 2>we can find a dual guy that can do them

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 2>both and and but if not, then we'll we'll parcel

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 2>it up.

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.640
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a long camp, a long summer because

0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you guys report early, but the fourth preseason game you

0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>more than anybody else. Does that help.

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 2>You you get another look at him?

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, I think that, you know, certainly

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 2>it helps getting a better a better feel for the guys.

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's just another extra week that we can get

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.439
<v Speaker 2>these young guys a step further and and spend some

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.439
<v Speaker 2>more time with them. And and that's going to be

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.880
<v Speaker 2>critical in the way to develop and and things like that.

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.399
<v Speaker 2>So I'm really excited about that. You know, they're gonna

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 2>need it, and just like every rookie does, you know,

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and and our and our team needs it, you know,

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see where it goes from there.

0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, Listen to another life way back when assistant

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Special teams coach for the Indianapolis Colts, and your two

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:09.920
<v Speaker 1>kickers were Adam Vinettieri Vintieri and.

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Pet macfa McFee. Yeah, do you have.

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Me inside knowledge on what Rogers was gonna say on

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Pat McFee on March fifteenth?

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<v Speaker 3>I did not.

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 2>That is that is the That is the truth. Yeah,

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.479
<v Speaker 2>that is the truth, And no, I didn't. I'm just

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.360
<v Speaker 2>happy for, you know, obviously, for Aaron to be here

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and and the difference it's going to make on this

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 2>team as far as like what what this, what he's

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna what he's going to mean to this team leadership

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.399
<v Speaker 2>wise and and things like that. I think it's really

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.920
<v Speaker 2>really cool. You know, I played with Dan Marino and

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and uh to see the fire and things that they

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't have when you when you play Aaron Rodgers against

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers, he has that same fire and it's really

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 2>really cool to see even out of practice right now.

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 3>And and uh, you.

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Know, speaking of Pat McFee, I'm just happy signed that

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.479
<v Speaker 2>new deal and good for him and his new family.

0:22:58.560 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 3>And that's really awesome.

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>For what's it been like watching Rogers operate here?

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's it's it's cool to see, you know, it's

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 2>cool to see how how much he helps the guys

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and how he you know, demands all these guys be

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 2>at their best and and that's what's mating great all

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>these years. You know, I think that it's going to

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>do nothing but make this team better. You know, I

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 2>think when when players, you know, everybody wants to be

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>liked in these days, you know, instead of being respected.

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.160
<v Speaker 2>And I always tell them, tell the guys it's better

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to be respected than liked.

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And guys that are willing to do that and you know,

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 2>in the right way and correct their teammates, and you know,

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 2>when they're doing the right stuff themselves, like like he's

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 2>going to do and and he has certain things that

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 2>he wants to get done, and and he wants you

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to do things a certain way, and he's going to

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 2>pull guys aside and and and tell him how he

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>wants it done. And I think that's awesome. I really do,

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.679
<v Speaker 2>and especially a guy that has as many pelts on

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the wall as he does, you know, I think it's

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>really cool.

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Totally different players, but do you see a lot of

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>similarities with him and Marino the way they especially have

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that presence.

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Or presence when you're when you're around the great ones

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 2>like that, I like, you know, it's like when I

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 2>was in Indie with Andrew Luck. When you're around dudes

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 2>like that, you know that walk in a huddle and

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 2>they command a presence like that.

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 3>That's what That's what you see here.

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 2>That's what I've seen with Marino my rookie year, Bernie

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Kosar I played with also, and so guys like that

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 2>that are I mean, those they're they're killers, man. They're

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 2>they're really, really really good players for a reason, and

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:35.919
<v Speaker 2>that's because they're they're so good at what they do,

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 2>and they're so so meticulous about how they prepare and

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and their their game prep and and their body and

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 2>everything like that.

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what makes them great.

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>How much is Rogers going to change things for you guys,

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>because I gotta imagine probably punting on less and if

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you're punting. You're probably punting a little bit more favorable

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>situations where hey, maybe we got a couple first downs.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is Rogers throughout his career has

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 1>been exceptional in the red zone.

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, he's been fantastic.

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's all stuff that you know, will

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>wait to see how much it changes.

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 2>We we've been doing some some studies on some things

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 2>that you know, maybe in the past that I haven't studied.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 2>You know, we haven't done a ton of work on

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 2>is you know, because there wasn't many situations like that. Well,

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>now we're doing more situational stuff. You know, obviously we

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>did the work, but what I'm saying is like going

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>going doing all these extra projections and studies and things

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 2>like that that that the situations that we haven't been

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 2>in very much, you know, in the past since I've

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 2>been here.

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Without giving away too many state secrets, can you can

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you touch upon something I can't?

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I can't?

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's all respect that, but that's a big part

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 1>of the off season, right. Yeah, And that also speaks

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to okay, we might have to change things up as

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>far as what personnel is actually.

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think, you know, the game situations that

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 2>we'll be in are going to be totally different. You know,

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 2>do you want do you want to pressure as much?

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to do return as much? Do you

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 2>want to do all this stuff that sometimes that that

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>we needed to get back into the game in certain situations?

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Do we do we need to play a little more safe?

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Do we need to be more aggressive in certain areas?

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Things like that are all gonna are all going to change,

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, I would assume and and uh, it's going

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 2>to be cool to see see how it all works out.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>How much do you love and how much do you

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>hate the challenge of it all? Considering that you're never

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>going to have ninety percent of your personnel back or

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of your personnel back. That's just the nature

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of life in the National Football League, especially for special

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>teams coordinator. But with that being said, it's like a

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>chef who's got new ingredients every day. How much do

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you like the task and hate it at the same time.

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 2>There's probably some stuff I can't say yes right, no,

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just nat It is frustrating at times, I won't

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 2>lie to you. But the part that I really enjoy

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>about it is that you know, I get to speak

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 2>to the whole team and I and I have a

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>relationship with the entire team, even the offense and defensive

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>lineman because they're on our stuff too. And and that

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 2>part and the puzzle making that you have to put

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>figure out where to put everybody and what matches their skills,

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>and what are they good at, when aren't they good

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 2>at and and try to get the best mix of

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 2>all those players. And and then you know, if there's

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>sudden changes at the you know, before game one of

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the regular season, like there always is, you know, guys

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that you were counting on and all of a sudden

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>there's three or four guys not here, then it just

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 2>throws it into a tail spin and you have to

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>turn around and figure it out. And you know, that's

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 2>why you cross train everybody. And that's why you you know,

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:59.199
<v Speaker 2>you're always trying to plan ahead for for you know,

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>things that could possibly happen, you know, and you know,

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 2>whether you lose a guy here, lose a guy there,

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>You're always trying to cross train people for for their

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>positions and things like that. That part of the game

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>is is is really cool to me because because it's

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's something that you know, it's it's hard

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>to do, and and.

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>You're tagging a different puzzle every year.

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 2>And then and you create relationships with all these guys

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, part of this businesses is they're

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 2>not going to play for you unless and unless they trust.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 3>You, and and and.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that's part really part about why

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I do this, and and it's really cool. The part

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>about being a coach is that you develop all these

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>relationships with the guys and and you're trying to take

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>them to where they don't think they can go themselves.

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's that's the real cool part for

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>me in this business.

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>What do you like in that meeting room with the guys?

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Is your intensity personified? I think people should go look

0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>at some of your own film. Does it swarm Brandon Boy?

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Back in the day with Arizona? And then you're a

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>six round pick. Not a lot of six round picks.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Played ten years in the football league.

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I was pretty lucky, very fortunate. You know, I had

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>some guys that liked me. How I say it that way,

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>you know that I mean, you know, I try to

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>try to help these guys all the time and and

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 2>try to you know, I've done everything that they're doing,

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and I've been through everything that they've been through. And

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that, you know, the more I can try

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>to relay that to them and you know, show them

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>the pitfalls that could be in this business or if

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't do this, here's what's going to happen.

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 3>And I try to be brutally.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Honest with everybody, and and you know, I'm trying to

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>help them and trying to help them in their career.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I have relationships off the field with

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of these guys and and things like that,

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know it's awesome man, that that's that's

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>why you do it.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 3>You try to get back and help.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>How different is the vibe around here this year as

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.479
<v Speaker 1>we're about to embark in the twenty twenty three season

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to maybe any of the eight previous offseasons

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you've had here.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the actual state expectations are going to be are

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>really really high.

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's awesome. Yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely.

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, you can't walk the walk

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and if you're you know, if you're not gonna if

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>you're going to talk to talk.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 3>You can't walk the walk, you know.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we look really good on paper, and

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>we got to come out and we got to show

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that we're as good as this team, you know, and

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 2>we'll see how good we are. And and I think

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a physical team.

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I really look forward to seeing how this team matures

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>together and plays together. And I think it's going to

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>be fun to see where this ends up.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you think about the schedule release?

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>NFL thinks you guys are going to be good. Five

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>prime time games, the first ever Black Friday game, as well.

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 3>A lot of late nights. Buddy, Yeah, a lot of

0:30:58.240 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 3>late nights.

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>But for a special team respective, I got to imagine

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the guys are pretty juiced up play under the lights.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Everybody in the NFL is gonna.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Be watching absolutely anytime that that. Uh, you know, I think,

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, Saul and Joe and mister Johnson and all

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 2>these guys have done such a great job getting all

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>these players in. So the league is starting to notice

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 2>things are changing around here. And since I've been here,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>it's been a total reversal of what it was when

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I came here. And I'm really excited to see see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. And and uh, and I love that the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure is on us, I really do, because now now

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<v Speaker 2>you're performed, you know, and we got to back it up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm happy. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it as well. What you got planned for

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<v Speaker 1>the summer? Any hunt and fish?

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<v Speaker 2>Got where we go on a ton of fishing trips

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<v Speaker 2>all through Montana and Wyoming. And and uh, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>up in Idoha for a little while, and and my

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<v Speaker 2>my family will come out for for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got a wedding in Vegas for for two

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<v Speaker 2>or three days.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then but most of all, just floating down rivers

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<v Speaker 2>and fishing, buddy, just camping on the river.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So what are you fishing for in Montana?

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<v Speaker 3>Trout?

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<v Speaker 2>What about my own trout? All trout? Yeah, all fly

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<v Speaker 2>fishing for trout, So all fish five six days a

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<v Speaker 2>week when my family's not in, you know, all fish

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<v Speaker 2>maybe three days a week.

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<v Speaker 3>When my family's in. But when of my family's not there,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be up there every day almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you're gonna do any hunting or just fishing?

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<v Speaker 3>Just fishing, okay, just fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep on saying it every year, but I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>come out anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime you want to come out, You're welcome, Thanks Brent,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, anytime,