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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive. Sweetie.

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Speaker 2: I'm christah N and Hazlet and today I have with

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Speaker 2: me the incomparable, this talented don Tebo.

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Speaker 3: Dont you made it beautiful?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely no.

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Speaker 2: I've been wanting you to come on the show. There

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Speaker 2: was a time I think we had asked and they

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Speaker 2: were like, he's not available. So I was so happy

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Speaker 2: when I got the email saying.

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Speaker 1: That you could come.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've never met a person.

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Speaker 3: I know, and I'm a fan too, same. I know

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Speaker 3: what you do, I know who you are like, so

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Speaker 3: I'm really grateful to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: But we'd like to start the show off with a

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Speaker 2: song or topic, and I'm going to try to sing

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Speaker 2: this song.

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Speaker 1: It's actually one of your songs that I love. It's

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Speaker 1: called hide Me.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: We're just going to sing the hook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hide me, hide me, hide me, hide me you shot hide.

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Speaker 2: Me, hide me, hide me, hide me, undel hide me,

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Speaker 2: hide me, hide me, hide me A yes, because when

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Speaker 2: we think about everything we go through, sometimes we do

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Speaker 2: just want to be hidden under God's and behind him,

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Speaker 2: like Lord protect us.

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Speaker 3: I always want to be protected. I don't care what

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Speaker 3: season I mean, because hidden doesn't always mean you're not

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Speaker 3: outside or like you're not working, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Hidden just means no matter where I am, I'm covered. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know you see me, but he really sees me

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Speaker 3: like I'm covered. You know.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my first time meeting you in person,

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Speaker 2: but I remember seeing you.

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 2: Say, what's the Gospel Awards show here in Atlanta, Stellar Awards,

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Speaker 2: the Stell Awards. There was a reception at the Thompson

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Speaker 2: Hotel and you came in briefly and you just had

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Speaker 2: this like, I don't know, it's something very stoic and regal,

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Speaker 2: the way you watch you. Gucci dad, who was.

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Speaker 1: That, Like, oh that's down table. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen him, but I know his voice. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was out there acting a fool with Isaac.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm usually to myself.

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Speaker 1: You were you were very quiety kind of reserve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, still trying to find I always felt like I

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Speaker 3: didn't fit in all the way really, even though I

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Speaker 3: have some amazing friends in that space, I always feel

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Speaker 3: like when it's a lot of us in one room.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, let me just you know, in the corner,

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Speaker 3: or like just you know, I'm not shy, but I

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Speaker 3: guess I'm just more observing.

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Speaker 1: I since that I did, and you kind of like

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Speaker 1: scope in the room. I'm about to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: I was like, he just disappeared.

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Speaker 2: But no, that was the first time I saw you,

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Speaker 2: and then as I got to know your music more

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Speaker 2: became I became a fan. The raspiness in your voice,

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Speaker 2: it's something about I don't know, it's something anointed when

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Speaker 2: when somebody has a rasciic voice, it just touches it,

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Speaker 2: like as soon as you open your bath.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh lord, that was good. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't always comfortable with it, really, like I wanted

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Speaker 3: a clean voice. And you know, coming up in the industry,

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Speaker 3: you hear people they have like the smooth you know,

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Speaker 3: Brian att Night, you know, all the greats kind of

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Speaker 3: have this smooth kind of tone. Then you have the

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Speaker 3: few like Cambarell or a Jasmine Sullivan. But that started

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Speaker 3: coming around later as I got older.

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Speaker 1: You're right, that's okay, So it's R and.

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Speaker 3: B and gospel used to be so smooth, you know,

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Speaker 3: rhyings and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never felt comfortable and now I love it.

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Speaker 3: Now it's like my superpower.

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Speaker 1: No, it is, it really is. It sets you apart

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Speaker 1: from everyone. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 2: So I want to know more about Dante. Let's go

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Speaker 2: back to childhood, Dante.

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Speaker 1: What was it like? Where are you from?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And also how did you even get into music?

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Speaker 2: Because I know for me, my mom put me in

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Speaker 2: kind of like, go, you're gonna you're gonna do something

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Speaker 2: in the church.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I can hear you can sing, like you can

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Speaker 3: hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: When you said that you was like your voice, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can hear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of singers can tell like you can sing.

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Speaker 3: I gotta hear you cut off, no, but yeah. I

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Speaker 3: was raised in Rockingham, North Carolina, so super small town,

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Speaker 3: raised by both my parents and my grandparents, you know,

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Speaker 3: ended up getting divorced my parents did, but still raised

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Speaker 3: by both of them, and I had a pretty normal childhood.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that wasn't normal is like all of

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Speaker 3: my cousins and aunts and uncles could sing, and so

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Speaker 3: we had a big family. So during Christmas is thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: things of that sort. We would all gather around and sing,

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Speaker 3: and everyone was super spiritual. You know. I was raising

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Speaker 3: a spiritual home. And even my cousins that weren't save, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they might go outside and smoke. They weed come back

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Speaker 3: in and be like trying to spray, like because you

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Speaker 3: got your aunts and you, I like, the whole family

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Speaker 3: had to be saved, even if he wasn't saved. When

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Speaker 3: you come around like you act like yeah. And so

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Speaker 3: that's kind of that was raised in. I never had

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Speaker 3: an altar call moment, you know. I just just was

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Speaker 3: raised the church. Like you said, your mom put you

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Speaker 3: in the choir five same for me. I was like

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Speaker 3: born in the choir as soon as I could be

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Speaker 3: on the children's choir. Yep, my mom put me in there.

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Speaker 3: I guess it was like another way for her to

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Speaker 3: have a little freedom for free time. I had to

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Speaker 3: go to choir her some stuff. I used to hate it,

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Speaker 3: but now I love it. Yeah. I was just raising

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Speaker 3: a pretty normal family in a small town. And all

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Speaker 3: those things are probably things that we all yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you play the piano as well. What age did

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Speaker 2: you start playing the piano.

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Speaker 3: My grandmother bought me a yamaha piano, Grandma like one

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Speaker 3: of them. Like remember radio Shack, Yeah I do.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about that, like there's no anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So it was probably the biggest gift in my mind.

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Speaker 3: You know, she bought me this, you know, yamaha piano.

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Speaker 3: It was cheap, but it was like the best thing

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Speaker 3: she could have bought me because I spent so much

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Speaker 3: time on it. And that's when I started writing my

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Speaker 1: Wow. How were you then?

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Speaker 3: Maybe ten?

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing, nine.

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Speaker 3: Ten years old, started writing my own songs. I started

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Speaker 3: actually like spending my leisure time with music around that time.

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Speaker 3: Before it was still like I'm going outside, I'm playing,

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Speaker 3: doing the normal whatever, and that the piano kind of

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Speaker 3: made me spend more time with myself and perfect my craft. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So did you say piano lessons or you taught yourself.

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Speaker 3: I took piano lessons, I was I was trained classical. Wow.

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Speaker 3: That's good. Yeah. Yeah, So I didn't know at the

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Speaker 3: time it would be like a career path, but I

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Speaker 3: did enjoy it growing up, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't play the piano when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: but you looked behind me in that corner back there,

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Speaker 2: there's a little cute Oh yeah, I just brought a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm teaching myself to play the piano.

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Speaker 3: You know what you need to get you a little

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Speaker 3: upright piano.

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Speaker 1: Here I do I feel like in a four year Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I need it.

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Speaker 3: I got a little upright piano. And it's more inspired.

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Speaker 3: It inspire you sit down and like play it. You know.

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Speaker 1: I love when you do that. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: love we do the video. Oh my god, it's so good.

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Speaker 3: I think I might be releasing something that's like majority that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's gonna be fire. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: then when you do your shows, that's gonna be crazy that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you hear something.

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Speaker 1: Please, Okay, I love it. I love it. Oh man.

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Speaker 2: So you grew up in the church, singing came and

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Speaker 2: playing the piano came around the age of ten. That's

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Speaker 2: when you really fell in love with music. At what

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Speaker 2: And when did that even happen.

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Speaker 3: I just think that was a pretty good student, you know,

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Speaker 3: my mom was so supportive always. You know, she could

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Speaker 3: have like shot that down with small like you going

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Speaker 4: Like she was like all right, you know, okay, do

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Speaker 4: and started recording demos and spending.

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Speaker 3: That little money that we had, and I would sing

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Speaker 3: up at I went to this venue. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: Eddie James was going to be there, but he was

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Speaker 3: opened or he was performing, and I was opening up

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Speaker 3: and so I started singing with him. And from there

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Speaker 3: after that it was like Travis Green Casey j I

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Speaker 3: don't know it just like god, it was randomness. Heck,

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Speaker 3: like I wasn't super popular. He just he just started

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Speaker 3: opening doors. And I think every time he gave me

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Speaker 3: a platform, I just gave it my ally, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. And you never know who's watching you

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Speaker 3: or who's you know, out He was just wanting to give,

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Speaker 3: so I was in the right places at the right time.

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Speaker 2: Was there era time in your journey where you like

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Speaker 2: receive noes or any type of like rejection. We were like, dang,

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Speaker 2: like I really wanted that or because I know, for

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Speaker 2: me it was ten years of nose.

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Speaker 3: I got so many notes even and yes, is were

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Speaker 2: My therapist always says, you lack nothing and you have

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Speaker 2: So you went from singing with Bethel and then you

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Speaker 3: He must be doing this R and B thing because

441
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: you know, he can't be over here and I can,

442
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it really is a conscious decision

443
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 3: to try something new and fresh. Yeah, get my MoMA

444
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 3: something you want to listen to to.

445
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: Say, how does your family the same family feel about it?

446
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: They love it, They really do love it. And my mom,

447
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: she's an R and B head, Like, so I feel

448
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 3: like I'm actually writing music that you know, would be

449
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 3: in her repertoire for real. I love that, not just

450
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 3: when she's like, you know, on a Sunday experience what

451
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 3: she wants to listen to it in the cars?

452
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's so true.

453
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: We were doing a what was it something Pete Pastor

454
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: every one of his series that he was doing, and

455
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: he would use an R and B song to introduce

456
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: every sermon. And he was like, before y'all start judging,

457
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: he was like, there's a difference between secular and profanity.

458
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: He's like, because you have music that is like explicit

459
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 2: and like super vulgar, he said, then you have second

460
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 2: music that may just be talking about love, like and

461
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: just happy.

462
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, feel good music, you know,

463
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: and that's what you're giving us.

464
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

465
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So shout out Pad for just clarifying that because

466
00:21:52,160 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 2: changed church. Yeah, y'all be on it that everybody.

467
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: We had to do a whole.

468
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: Do you have fans at John Jay?

469
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: No? Literally, I had to do a We had an

470
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: episode where I had to actually address that because I've

471
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,959
Speaker 2: had people coming to church just to try to get

472
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: pictures with me. I've had a girl literally run out

473
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: the back door to my car tapping on the winter

474
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: please get a picture. It's so invasive.

475
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm here, and.

476
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: That's why a lot of celebrities don't go to church,

477
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: because they can't praise in peace.

478
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, I'm like, what are you serious? Right now?

479
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm like in the milk, like literally, and you're tapped

480
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: me on my shoulder for what.

481
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe that happened.

482
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: Yes, she was there, she witnessed that one.

483
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

484
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was the crime.

485
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were on Like we were at the altar

486
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: literally bawling and I'm like covering her and we turned

487
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: around in the first person, It's like, well, like she

488
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: at tapped you first and then like she then when

489
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: she didn't get my attention, she tapped me and I

490
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: was like, and it was a and I was just like, it's.

491
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: Crazy what you're doing. So yeah, people are crazy.

492
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: You addressed it.

493
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I said, come for good.

494
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm here to build my relationship with God, to fellowship

495
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: because I don't want to for sake the assembly, trying

496
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: to time, trying to do everything right and really grow

497
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: my relationship, but it's just messing up the vibe and

498
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: then people want to hug it. Sometimes the energy is weird,

499
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, like people you know what I'm talking about,

500
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: people going to and they're.

501
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: Like, oh, and You're like, I don't feel right. It's

502
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: like it is too fanished.

503
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: It's like just be cool, Like I love everybody, and

504
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate this for if you see me in the streets,

505
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: high at me.

506
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: Fact, but this is the God's house. Let's just let's

507
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: just honor that. Yeah, yeah, it does. It gets weird.

508
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: Common sense, it's not common.

509
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 3: Simple, it's so simple. Yeah.

510
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway though, anyway, Okay, so we've talked about your grow,

511
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: your upbring we've talked about your hard times.

512
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: Did not know that you were homeless. That is crazy.

513
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: Was there any time in your life where you felt

514
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: like God?

515
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you feel like God brings you down to

516
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: lift you up so that you can only look up

517
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: to him.

518
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: What was a moment in.

519
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: Your life where God literally set you down where you

520
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: had to look up and be like, God.

521
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: What is happening?

522
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: That's a good question, because I have a few you do.

523
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I.

524
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: Never gave that credit to God, Like when I was

525
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: brought down, kind of just felt like I was doing

526
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: something that just brought me down. Wow, And I could

527
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: have avoided it. Some things I couldn't, you know, like

528
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 3: life happens you losing loved ones and different things like that.

529
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just never thought about him that

530
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: in that way. But I mean, I've had a lot

531
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: of moments where I felt super low. Losing my grandfather

532
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: was probably the hardest thing I've ever done in my life,

533
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: like to this day, really close, we were really close.

534
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: He's my best friend. And it was right right around

535
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: the time I was working super hard and sopens yeah,

536
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: and I wasn't home as much and he passed away.

537
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: He had COVID in the very beginning or whatever. So

538
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: but anyway he passed away because you know, just getting older,

539
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: just a bunch of problems. Like and I was on

540
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 3: the road, I was in the airport and even like

541
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: now it's like crazy to me, you know, And I

542
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: was in the airport. Just did the biggest concert of

543
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: my career. Still to this day, the biggest concert was Brazil.

544
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

545
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: And I was super happy and stuff. And then it

546
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: was like whoa, Like I felt brought down for real,

547
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, this is supposed to be the best

548
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: time of my life. You know, I'm singing worship in Brazil,

549
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: working on an album, like I feel so good. It's

550
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: like grandfather passed away, and so I threw my entire

551
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: album away. You paid for it and everything, threw it

552
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: away and wrote an entirely new album that's the Circles album. Wow,

553
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: like dedicated to him. I just wrote, have you ever

554
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: heard the song Voice of God?

555
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

556
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was I didn't know that you

557
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: had dedicated album to.

558
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: Like I dedicated to my grandfather away the commercial album,

559
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: like threw away the commercial album. What they were? So

560
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: you know what's crazy? You know what, Like because I

561
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: know Jim, they probably see this, you know, what's crazy.

562
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: They were super super gentle with me and cared so

563
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: much about you know, me as a creative that they

564
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: trusted that I would, you know, maybe do a better thing,

565
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: you know, like maybe it's gonna be better, you know

566
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: at the beginning. Yet it was like, dang, it's crazy,

567
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: you know, like an entire album you knew artists like,

568
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: what are we doing? So, you know what's crazy? This

569
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: is how I did it too. I went to the studio,

570
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: recorded it all myself with my producer, and then I

571
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: turned it into label. I didn't tell them that I

572
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: was throwing it away until I was finished with the

573
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: second one.

574
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Were you already with truth?

575
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: Was this the same level I was with Bethel Music?

576
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: And so yeah, turned it in and that's the one

577
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: that made history at the Grammys. Wow, And I felt

578
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: like it was because of my grandfriend. Yes, I really

579
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: did feel like I didn't do the commercial thing. I

580
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: did something that I really wanted to do.

581
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's what normally hits home. Yeah, that

582
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: people connect.

583
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: To real I felt like, yeah, like the word.

584
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't cut it all I do curse? Yeah,

585
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I said words that video.

586
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is like like I tell all

587
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: my look, I cursed when it's necessary, sometimes when it's not.

588
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: Mostly when it's like necessary, I'm like, I don't know

589
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: how else to say this, but yeah, I can feel

590
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: somebody energy on the other like please say one.

591
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm not giving no crip no right, don't do.

592
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: That, but I do.

593
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same. I was just telling yeah, and

594
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: I was just telling known myself. I'm trying to stop.

595
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: Now.

596
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: You sent a video like I curse a little. Really,

597
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: what's your favorite curse bird? Yeah, yeah, I catch a little.

598
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: She's proud, right, Yes I curse but no, yeah, Like

599
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: it was a moment in my life where I was

600
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: a sailor because in the industry, everybody's cursing. You know.

601
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: I worked in costumes, behind the behind the scenes before

602
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: I was in front of the camera, and it's such

603
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: a high intensity job and everything is so fast paced,

604
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: and it's everything is what the beef?

605
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: Why the thief? Is this already? What are we doing?

606
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: What the sleep are you doing? Like everything is that.

607
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: It's like endearing.

608
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: It's not like people don't take it. Person It's like,

609
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah, money, I got it. You get so used

610
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: to hearing that you start picking it up, which is

611
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: why it's important to watch like the environment you're and

612
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: because you soak a lot of that up, or just

613
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: to have some type of guard up where you're.

614
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not going to pick that up. So I'm

615
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: working on it.

616
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it's anyway. And I'm being real like

617
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: someone on my team who I really love, like he's

618
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: the head dog, like it's my boy. I could say

619
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: his name, doctor Phild, that's my boy. When we're being

620
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: passionate about the next moves, like we can be talking

621
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: about God like it's like we're super passionate with like man.

622
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: Like wether, like we're gonna kill this like hard, like definitely,

623
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: like it's like super passionate.

624
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 3: It's not even negative, but it's like that's probably the

625
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: most like that. Yeah, I'll probably cuts a lot when.

626
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm in those moments, right, Yep, I'm.

627
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: Super happy and hanging around my friend and stuff.

628
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I was just telling them I did a live

629
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: with one of my friends and I kept saying broke, niggas.

630
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, because broke, it's just like

631
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: you didn't collaborate. I said, Yeah, ain't gonna collaborate on

632
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: that I said that wasn't one. But when you're around

633
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: your friends, you get comfortable.

634
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: That's the other thing. The branding, Like the reason why

635
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: I don't it's not I'm never I'm the most one

636
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: of the most honest gospel artists ever even over your

637
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: favorite I mean even over the top. They know who

638
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: they are, like my ployee. Yeah, but like they're even

639
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: like iconic, like you know what I mean, Like I'm

640
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: one of the most honest, well gospel singers to every

641
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: for so far. But like I would, I wouldn't normally

642
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: I would say the N word. But the thing is,

643
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: it ain't about like it being bad or good. It's

644
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: just not my brand all the time, you know what

645
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Like if we're doing a bunch of stuff,

646
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: so it's not just all.

647
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: Gonna be you know exactly.

648
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: So I'm just you know, making sure that when i'm

649
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: you know, older, that I like everything I put.

650
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: Out exactly so you're not looking back and little clips

651
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 2: so you look a little click something so quick and

652
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: narrow dawn like damn se I just want to keep

653
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: playing that over and over and over.

654
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: But I'm working on it. Lord does He's doing the

655
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: work in me, like.

656
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean winter. Oh my god, absolutely not cy like

657
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: she might not, but y'all don't want to hear from me. No.

658
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: When I saw you, I was like, he is with

659
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: the an Winter? That was incredible.

660
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: You're like into fashion too, Let's talk because that's something

661
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: else we have in common.

662
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I was a costume designer for years. I stopped Tyler

663
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Perry and I.

664
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: Love fashion and I love how you have been so expressed.

665
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: I feel like fashion's way to express ourselves and I

666
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: feel like I love how you freely express yourself in fashion.

667
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: What got you into that?

668
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: And when I saw you because I just started following

669
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: you in the last year or so.

670
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: I was happy when you followed me.

671
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I just loved your music. But then I

672
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: saw you in the fashion too, and I was like yo.

673
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: I was like, that's so dope. When did you start

674
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: going to fashion weeks? And like, yeah, connect to all

675
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: these designers.

676
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: I take I took a break this year. I'll probably

677
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: go later in the year. But I was always into fashion.

678
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: My dad was super stylish, like he would wear you know,

679
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: he would put the creases in his jeans, he put

680
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: his tms on, his T shirt was always white, like

681
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: super fresh. My dad was the freshest dude, like ever,

682
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: like skin was listening like you know what I mean, gangster.

683
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: He was just always fly, you know what I mean,

684
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: his chain on his joey and it really took He

685
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: really took pride in how he looked. And my mom

686
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: was the same way. She let the female version of that,

687
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, so Mary J. Blige boos. My mom used

688
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: to really dress. So I was just raised around it.

689
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: And then even when I started, you know, going to church,

690
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: my grandmother, you know, being a missionary in the church

691
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: God in Christ, you know churcht she had her hats listen.

692
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: I was told for a little while, like we.

693
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: Dressed up like all the time, every Sunday. We dressed

694
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: up like they would put us in suits and stuff

695
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: as we were three years old, literally, So I was

696
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: always into fashion. I think when I started making bigger checks,

697
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: I was wanting to I did this the first year,

698
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: which was a mistake, but you know, nonetheless I did it.

699
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to really start having more influence in fashion.

700
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: So I was just buying a bunch of shit. I

701
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: mean stuff, that's one of those that's right. But I

702
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: was just buying a bunch of stuff. And I'm just

703
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: like all right, nah, like you know what I mean,

704
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: I just signed this deal. I don't know if I'm

705
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: even gonna pop, you know. And so I started really

706
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: making connections in the fashion industry. And I want to

707
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: go into detail about how I did it, but like

708
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: I was more so just on Instagram, and I would

709
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: hire a stylists instead of like going to buy a

710
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: bunch of stuff. I was hiding the pool. And the

711
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: more I would pool, you know, the designers would notice

712
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: me and different things like that. And then I signed

713
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: my new deal and my manager is a fashion girl, like.

714
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first of all, she's so fabulous, and

715
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: so she got me.

716
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god. It's just crazy. First meeting we ever had.

717
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 3: Like we were sitting eating it and I never go

718
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: eat with people like after I do a gig like that.

719
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: So I was like eating with her and her husband

720
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: and she was like, y'all want a fashion I'm like, yeah,

721
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: like I've been in this fashion thing for like two

722
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: years whatever, and she's like, oh yeah, yeah, Like I'm

723
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: doing a bunch of vote stuffs. Like she's like, I'm

724
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: Vogue one hundred. I was, I'm like, what the heck?

725
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: And so she became a part of my team. Obviously,

726
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: I started, you know, doing more with Vogue, who I love.

727
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: My stylist is the men's editor of Vogue. Wow, Michael

728
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: shouting to Michael, that's amazing. So I work with him

729
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: and this guy named Charles Rose and they do all

730
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: of my styling and you know, got to you meet

731
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: Valentino and all kinds of stuff I've done, you know

732
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: what I mean. But it's only been you know, three

733
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: four years, so I'm looking forward to the future.

734
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you would have your own line

735
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: at some point? You know, you know.

736
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: I would do collapse, you know, I want to be

737
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: so yeah, well I want to have you know, a

738
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: lot of influence period. But I do want to be

739
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: so respected in fashion to where I could do a

740
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: collapse with Louis Vuittan do a collapse specifically, I'm sorry Doce.

741
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: Actually I want to do a collab with Doce Govana

742
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: because they always look out for me. They gave me

743
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: my first customs and give my customer suits and stuff

744
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: like that, and so I'm really close to Doce and

745
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: I really that's probably like a five year goal of

746
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: I to kind of amazing.

747
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: I love that we're gonna speak.

748
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: That, even just something small like I don't know, I

749
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: have to be I think I have to grow my

750
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: influence more.

751
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: Though you know you'll do it and don't think that,

752
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: because sometimes you look at certain people if they believe.

753
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: In you, that's true, yeah, and you got they like,

754
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: let's do it.

755
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing when I went to the Grammys.

756
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I'm the first, like we asked them

757
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: to do it. I'm like, they're not going to do this.

758
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: I would be the first gospel artist to wear a

759
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: custom dough jaysuit, like literally would be the first as

760
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: far as I'm like, they're not going to do this,

761
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 3: and they answered back and did it. Wow. They took

762
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: it serious that I was nominated and not just like, oh,

763
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: you don't have Pop Song of the Year R and

764
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: B sung, Yeah, I do, And so I feel like

765
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: they respected me.

766
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: I know that felt good too.

767
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: It felt so good because sometimes you feel overlooked when

768
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: you do you know, and I know I'm doing army now,

769
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: but I still feel like I'm a part of the

770
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: community of gospel, and sometimes you do feel overlookedhen you're

771
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: in that genre by the world when your music is

772
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: really people take from from what we do and create that,

773
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We look at Kanye and

774
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: Chance to Rapper and Wild for real, like the choirs,

775
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 3: and it's.

776
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, they do take that's.

777
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: Real and a good way take like they're inspired.

778
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

779
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: But I feel like when we're in that environments when

780
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: I always respect it, like you know.

781
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: I feel it.

782
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: I feel like as an actor, I feel the same way,

783
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: you know, as a black actor trying to make my

784
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: way and find my way. There are a lot of

785
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: times I feel overlooked.

786
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: There's roles that I've auditioned for and felt like I

787
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: killed it.

788
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: I know I got that, and then like, oh, we've

789
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: decided we're can go in a different direction there, Oh

790
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: We're actually not gonna do that role anymore. It's it's

791
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: it feels like it's always something and I have to

792
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: remind myself, God, has you exactly why you're supposed to

793
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: be and look at you. You're you're doing amazing. Don't

794
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: get too far ahead of yourself, because there's so many

795
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: times where I get I've been guilty of wanting the

796
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: accolades and the recognition of other people that I forget.

797
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: I've already got it.

798
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: From the one who I need it from, period, period,

799
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I had to stop

800
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: doing that because that's especially in the wards season, you'd be.

801
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Looking like.

802
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: That's a stressful season.

803
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

804
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: If you're not like, oh well, if he's so vulnerable

805
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: right now, you're all the so fun. Like this Grammy

806
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: season was so hard for me, Like I went through

807
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: a mild depression and I didn't even know. I was like,

808
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: oh my god, I need healing in this area. Like

809
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: I didn't even know because I had, you know, since

810
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: I've been in the industry, I've been nominated for you know,

811
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: and so it's my first year. And I was just

812
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: watching my friends go and like just thrive, and I'm

813
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: so happy for them, And it was more than it was.

814
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: I wanted more than it was envy. It wasn't it

815
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: was I want to be there with them, Like I

816
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: don't mind you being there, but like too for me

817
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: being at home, sitting on this bed, it is like

818
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: crazy to me right now watching all this stuff. And

819
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: my friends are so great. They're like, bro, you need

820
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: a break, bro, Yeah, the simple answers. It's fine. They're like,

821
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: it's going to be your season, and it's not going

822
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: to be your season, you know what I mean. You

823
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: go through those those challenges, and I think it's important

824
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: that we really do what you said, like look to

825
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: the one that actually does care and pay attention all

826
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: the time and actually, you know, gave you the gift

827
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: on it yourself. And I feel like sometimes it's a

828
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: smack in the face when we were like you're not

829
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: doing this and you're not doing that, or I don't

830
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: got the award, and but you just complained to God

831
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: about everything, you know, and I feel like I need

832
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: to I'm gonna take that note, like just look at

833
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: the one who who was always you know, they're yeah, always,

834
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: instead of the people that aren't paying attention.

835
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: Hello, yeah they will soon.

836
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: Do you feel like a part because you're like basically

837
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: starting all over. Yeah, it's you gotta work your way

838
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: up in this new.

839
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: Li It hurts, but it's fair, you know what I mean?

840
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: It hurts fair.

841
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I would like to know, and I'm

842
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: sure the audience would like to know what is next

843
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: for you.

844
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: I think I'm trying to think of what I can tell.

845
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: I know it's like people asking, so what can you

846
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: tell us about seasons?

847
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: I can say without getting in trouble, I mean new music.

848
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: Obviously I can't. I'm not gonna be in about that.

849
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: In music, can I say this, I'm gonna be acting.

850
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: I can say I'm coming, yes, and I'm excited about that.

851
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: That's awesome, and uh yeah, just doing my one off tours.

852
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of music and touring, but acting

853
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 3: as well.

854
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that.

855
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: And all the time that you're you're working, you're touring,

856
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: you're working on new music, taking acting classes. I guess, now,

857
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: are you like doing studying and doing scene study and

858
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: trying to figure.

859
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: Out I need to do more. Yes, I did it

860
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: for a little while, but I need to actually do

861
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: it because it just came to me, you know, like

862
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: I got like this is the second like offer. You know,

863
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: one was for BT plus and then there is an

864
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: other one like I can't talk about, but it was

865
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: like just random. So I'm like, maybe God wants me

866
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: to like really see what it's about. So I'm going

867
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: to start. I need to ask you what I did.

868
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Let's talk. Yeah, we can talk for sure. I would

869
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: love to help you. Yeah, yeah, No, that's for sure.

870
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: So how are you bouncing? Because seems like you got

871
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: a lot going on? Is it tough bounce for me?

872
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: I get a lot of anxiety when I have a

873
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: lot going on, really feel overwhelmed.

874
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes.

875
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: Even this month, I was like I need I don't

876
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: have an assistant right now, and I was like, I

877
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: need an assistant, like if nothing for just March. So

878
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: I've got a live show coming at the end. I'm

879
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: putting a lot on my plate with that because you

880
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: know it's creatives doing a live show for my podcast.

881
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, March thirtieth. Yeah yeah.

882
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: So like even that, I wanted to be big and

883
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: I'm like I want to do this, this, this, this, this,

884
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: and the door has to put them back down.

885
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, hey, because that's crazy.

886
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: We think like this is like I think like I'm

887
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: like I want the.

888
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: Led screen, I want the lights moving.

889
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: I want the floating like everything and that, and then

890
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: sometimes we put to we put more on ourselves than

891
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: we have to. Absolutely, so I'm balancing that right now.

892
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Do you have any issues with that?

893
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: I'm so good. Really delegating is delegating. I don't nothing.

894
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to do Okay, I want it done,

895
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: but I don't want to do it. What we gotta do,

896
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: we got I mean, I'm not even probably laughing something.

897
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: But I have a great assistant. The thing is when

898
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: you don't have one, it's the heart. I've went through that,

899
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: you know. But it's hard to find one too. That's

900
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: stuff like that all the time, right, But I found

901
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: one of my childhood friends random the best decision I've

902
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: ever had, really, So I just I'm like, I call

903
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: for anything, anything, you know what I mean. And so

904
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: I like delegating, and I feel like that's helped me

905
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: keep the peace where they used to be chaos because

906
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 3: it was it was kind of chaotic. It's been great.

907
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: I love that. It's okay, I'm gonna take that delegation.

908
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna because Tyler used to always tell me that

909
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: when I was designing all his shows, and I would

910
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: stay up to try with him. I'm like, tee, this

911
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: is a lot, and he was like, build your team

912
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: and delegate.

913
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to do everything.

914
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're right, because I was thinking that was

915
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: part of my job to do everything, Like it's my department.

916
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I have to do this. He's like, no, I you're

917
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: somebody to do it.

918
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: It's like I always know what's going on. But I

919
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: definitely I have no issue like defere Ken you you

920
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean, my manager Ken you like you know,

921
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, And the things that I can do, I

922
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: will carry my weight. I'm not lazy, you know. I'm

923
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: not saying be lazy. I definitely do what I can do.

924
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: But the things that kind of take up just time

925
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: that I don't.

926
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Have, yeah, that's usually when I yeah, I gotta work

927
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: on that. It's so funny.

928
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: We have a saying but women are like that though

929
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: women are naturally.

930
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: Y'all just want to do it. Like I mean, you

931
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: a black woman, right right, you want to get it

932
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: done period. So you're going to like, you know what

933
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: I mean, you're busy, Yeah, you're busy.

934
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: Very busy.

935
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, I see that.

936
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: All right, guys, So we are going to get into

937
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: my favorite part of the show, which is positive Outcomes

938
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: and Dante. This is where our listeners write in and

939
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: we give them advice. Okay, so we're gonna see what

940
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: Natalia has to say. Okay, Hi Chris, So my name

941
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: is Italia and I want to thank you both for

942
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: being the life that you are. You've impacted my life

943
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: so much in such a short time, and I'm really

944
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: grateful for the way you encourage people to build a

945
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: relationship with God.

946
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: It has helped me so much.

947
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm an eighteen year old girl juggling my relationship with Christ,

948
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: my flesh, and the pressure to be the best version

949
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: of myself. I'm really struggling with the pressure of everyone's

950
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: expectations of what I would I graduated high school right

951
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: after I turned sixteen years old, and everybody was expecting

952
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: me to become a lawyer because it was what I

953
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: had said I want to do since I can remember

954
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: being asked the question. I am now starting to feel

955
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: like it's not what I want to do. But again,

956
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: the pressure and the expectations come into play. I know

957
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: I have to live for myself and not everybody else,

958
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: but it's easier said than done when I don't know

959
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: if I'm going to be making the right decision to

960
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: change my path. I've always been known to be a

961
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: great student, and everybody expected me to be successful in

962
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: the courtroom. Part of me still wants to be successful,

963
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: but the other part of me is scared of the

964
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: possibility that I will fail. Do you have any advice

965
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: for young adults trying to find their way while being

966
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: faithful to God? Well, Natalia, thank you so much for

967
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: writing in. I would say we all.

968
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: I know when I was young, I wanted.

969
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: To be a nurse, a doctor, I probably wanted to

970
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: be a lawyer, and I wanted to be entertainer. I

971
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: ended up being what I wanted to do, but it

972
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: took me down different paths to get to this point.

973
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: So I would say, never let other people's expectations of

974
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: you or what you may have said in a different

975
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: season of your life hold you to one thing. If

976
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: you have passions for something else, explore that and see

977
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: what you really wanna do. And never be afraid to fail.

978
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: Some of my greatest lessons that come from failure. I'm

979
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: sure you can testing into that as well. I just

980
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: feel like, whatever it is that you wanna do, focus

981
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: on God. I was just talking about something that our

982
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: pastor said on Sunday. A lot of times we're like

983
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: running after progression, but we're not seeking the presence of God.

984
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: So I would tell you, while you're running after trying

985
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: to figure out is what you wanna do to get ahead.

986
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: I also just sit still sometimes and really talk to

987
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: God and say, Hey, God, what is it that you

988
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: have for me? And I feel like you'll have some

989
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: clarity in that.

990
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what I was gonna say is pray.

991
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

992
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 3: You know. I used to get so mad when my

993
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: manager will just tell just pray, just pray, cause I'm

994
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 3: like God giving me advice, it's right, I mean another

995
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: and he's like, no, for real, Like, if you pray about,

996
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: like seek God's answers, then you will probably come to

997
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 3: some conclusions here and there, you know what I mean.

998
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: So I would tell you to just just pray and

999
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: believe it when you pray and wait for your answers.

1000
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't move in any direction just because someone

1001
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: is asking me to, are pressuring me to. Usually those

1002
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: are the wrong decisions. In my book, I feel like

1003
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: every time I've gone with my heart and my gut

1004
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: and actually worked hard at it, you know, I had

1005
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: good outcomes. So I think God will give you you

1006
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 3: know what to do, but just stay focused on Him

1007
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: and work hard. All the voices they don't know, they

1008
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: don't know, they really don't.

1009
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: When you get rid of all the voices in your

1010
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: head and just get centered.

1011
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: That's when you figure it out. That's so true.

1012
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: That's good, that's good.

1013
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Just pray.

1014
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: So the next thing we're going to do is what

1015
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm going through and what I'm growing through, and I'll

1016
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: go first just so you can kind of see how

1017
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: we do it. But this particular season of my life

1018
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: I am.

1019
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: Still going through. I just talked about this.

1020
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm going through a season where I am trying to

1021
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: make sure that my walk is alive with my career,

1022
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: you know, because sometimes I would tell people that character

1023
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: I play. I wonder if God like judges me for that,

1024
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: like if he's like frowning on me for the character

1025
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm playing versus who I am in real life and

1026
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: should I play certain characters or should I you? And

1027
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just portraying that this is something that

1028
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: really happens. And I'm a creative and I want to

1029
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: be free in my art, but at the same time

1030
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: struggling and trying to find that balance of what it

1031
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: is God really wants me to do in my career

1032
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: and in my life.

1033
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: So they both line.

1034
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: So I feel like acting though, is like I mean,

1035
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: weren't some like there's some Christians that were crackheads before

1036
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: they became Christians, Christians that were prostitutes before. There's some

1037
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: Christians that were evil or promiscuous or whatever people consider bad.

1038
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 3: Like there's a list of that storm. And so I

1039
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: think telling those stories are kind of important, and I

1040
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 3: think a lot of times it does make people feel uncomfortable.

1041
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: But it's like that stuff being your family and they

1042
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: be around you. And it's like I feel like as

1043
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: an actor's important to really be bold and telling stories anyway.

1044
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: It's not like a song I can choose whether to

1045
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: be promiscuous, Like I think it's different. But yeah, it's

1046
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: like I'm writing about it is important, you know. But

1047
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: like I think when you're like like on screen and

1048
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 3: really giving us, you know, bring us something that's horrible

1049
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: to light, you know what I mean. I don't know.

1050
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: I feel like that could be a help to some

1051
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 3: people anyway. One of my going through right.

1052
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: And growing through going through and it can be the

1053
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: same thing like.

1054
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: Right now I'm going through I would say insecurity as

1055
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: far as like my career is concerned. I'm just sometimes

1056
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm just really insecure and just thinking like Okay, when

1057
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: does it stop? When does what stop the career or

1058
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: will it ever?

1059
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I deal with the same thing.

1060
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, are people still interested? Are not? You know?

1061
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: I go back and forth lately with that, and I

1062
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: used to not be so insecure about it that it's

1063
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 3: because I'm doing new things and trying new things. So

1064
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 3: when I'm when I'm growing through would probably be that,

1065
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: you know, I'm growing through insecurities and really trusting that

1066
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: guy has been in the right place at the right time,

1067
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: and as long as I'm faithful to him and I'm

1068
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: treating everybody right, I just trust that, you know, when

1069
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: whenever it ends, I'll be all right, you know what

1070
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, at least you know what I'm saying, yeah,

1071
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: or if it ever ends, you.

1072
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I love that.

1073
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: I love it because I definitely struggle with the same thing.

1074
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: It's hard as a creative because your life is in

1075
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: God's hands, you know what I'm saying. Ultimately, but there

1076
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: are so many people that you know what I'm saying,

1077
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: Your likelihood depends on if they like you or not.

1078
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: Or being likable is such a stressful thing. Sometimes it's

1079
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: just like I'm not that person at the party, like

1080
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: I don't care usually, but it's like you have to

1081
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 3: care people like you and you know anyway, Yeah, I'm

1082
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 3: just chat chatting.

1083
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: You're good.

1084
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: So to close out, we fill in the blank. Keep

1085
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: it blank, sweetie.

1086
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: And for this episode, I am going to say, hm, hmmm.

1087
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: I got one for you. Keep it true, sweetie.

1088
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: And that is O to your label. I like that.

1089
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: I like, do I have to give one? Yes, I

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Speaker 3: would say mmm, I feel like this podcast. I would say,

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Speaker 3: keep it real.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I like that, keep it real.

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Speaker 1: I love it. It has been real. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Do absolutely. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for tuning in. And keep it positive, sweetie. If

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Speaker 2: you want to write into our open listener letter, write

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Speaker 2: and to keep it positive. Sweety at gmail dot com

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Speaker 2: and that's Sweetie with an Ie. You can follow me

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Speaker 2: on Instagram at love chryst Orine that's l u V

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Speaker 2: chrys doorinee and on all platforms. Dante tell the people

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Speaker 2: where they can find you.

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Speaker 3: Dante Bo Everywhere, d A N T, E, B O

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Speaker 3: w E, dantebo dot com, all of my social media handles.

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Speaker 2: Yes and check out his music, all the albums, check

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Speaker 2: out everything on all platforms. He's everywhere, y'all on YouTube

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Speaker 2: and all the other platform apples, Spotify, Amazon, everything, find

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Speaker 2: him check them out. Thank you guys so much. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime in between time you know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Keep it positive, sweeties.

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Speaker 3: Bye Jesus, thank you so much for a new day,

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Speaker 3: a new day to say thank you and just express

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Speaker 3: gratitude for all that we're able to do. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for allowing us to come together and create content that

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Speaker 3: will inspire, hopefully change someone's life in general and kind

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Speaker 3: I asked you to breathe on it, put it on

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Speaker 3: the ears that need to hear it in Jesus name.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Amen, Amen,