WEBVTT - I Choose...To Always Be Connected with Jason Priestley

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. Hi, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about

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<v Speaker 1>the choices we make and where they lead us. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>my guest today as someone I've called a friend for

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty years? Can you guess who it is? The

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<v Speaker 1>phrase that Kelly Taylor said, I Choose Me was in

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<v Speaker 1>part because of his character. We shared the screen together

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<v Speaker 1>on Beverly Hills nine on two ONA, where he played

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Walsh and was nominated for two Golden Globe Awards,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have no recollection of for his work for

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<v Speaker 1>that role. Oh my gosh. Now you can catch him

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<v Speaker 1>on Wild Cars on the CW Wednesday nights. Please welcome

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Priestley to the podcast. Oh okay, this is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over here doing happy dance that you're on the pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I'm it's nice to finally be here. Jed.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is so you. Did you know you

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<v Speaker 1>are the number one requested guest to be on this

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<v Speaker 1>pod because we did a little survey and everybody wants you.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody wants Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious. That's awesome. Well, that's good to know. Good

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<v Speaker 2>to know if somebody still wants to pay attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, somebody definitely does. Wait, do you remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>met yeah on teen Agel on.

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<v Speaker 2>Teen Agel in Phoenix, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wait, we were in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're in Phoenix. We shot that one in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>We shot the first one in Phoenix. We shot the

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<v Speaker 2>second one in Salt Lake City. You're in the second one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, teen Angel returns.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Yeah, the original with Adam Bisk and Renee what

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<v Speaker 2>was Renee's last name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember what my character was or what

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<v Speaker 1>my role was. Nothing. I remember nothing other than seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you for the first time and thinking, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember it. I remember it was you were

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<v Speaker 2>you were one in Rene. You were Rene's like buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>You were here like kick number two. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the last time you played the

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<v Speaker 2>female number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the good old days.

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<v Speaker 2>But you were a kid man, you were like in

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<v Speaker 2>high school, like you were seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had my parents on the set with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you had you had a girlfriend. I think was

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<v Speaker 1>that Robin?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, no, I don't think I had a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't know. I was just like, I was

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<v Speaker 1>really stoked that our relationship was an automatic like friendship

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<v Speaker 1>and no drama, Like I don't know. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a brotherly sisterly thing that we've always had. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true, you know. You know what it does. It

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<v Speaker 2>just makes it really comfortable whenever we see each other.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have to. We don't have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go back through the menu, show the last three months

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<v Speaker 2>before we saw each other. We can we left off right.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it, It makes it much easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it does. Okay, So I named my podcast I

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<v Speaker 1>Choose Me, which, as fans know, was when Kelly had

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<v Speaker 1>to choose between Brandon and Dylan and instead she choose herself.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what sort of launched it all. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember filming that scene? Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>I do? I do? I really, I totally remember it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember you because you and me were on

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<v Speaker 2>the beach just north of the just north of the

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<v Speaker 2>Venice Pier, and Rusty, our steady cam operator, was exhausted

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<v Speaker 2>because we kept walking through the sand and doing a

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<v Speaker 2>big long walk and talk poor poor Rusty man. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember it was it was it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cool and bluster that day, and it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was cloudy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were on the beach, but the scene where

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<v Speaker 1>she says I choose me was outside the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right, because that's where that's where Brandon proposed

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm getting beach. That was the proposition, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the first time, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you understand the importance or that the ultimate meaning

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<v Speaker 1>of I choose me at that time? Because I did not?

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<v Speaker 2>I did, Oh, I did, I totally did. I totally did.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you and me and Luke all joking around

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<v Speaker 2>about it, right, Yeah, because it because it was because

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<v Speaker 2>because we thought it was we thought it was we

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was clever, and we thought we thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was an original choice. Like I don't remember ever seeing

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<v Speaker 2>uh a character on TV like that when when faced

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<v Speaker 2>with a choice of you can marry this awesome guy

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<v Speaker 2>or this awesome guy and the character goes no, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>And so brave, so brave.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you know, I think you know, certainly in

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<v Speaker 2>those early seasons, as you know, first four or five

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<v Speaker 2>seasons of the show, I think that we really tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do things like that that were that were you

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<v Speaker 2>know they were different and you know, sometimes controversial, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but but I think it was important to to reach

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<v Speaker 2>our audience, the audience that we were trying to reach.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was important for them that we addressed

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<v Speaker 2>the that we addressed the issues that they were going

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<v Speaker 2>through at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I have so many women that come to me

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<v Speaker 1>and say, when I saw that episode and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly choose herself, it dawned on me that I have

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<v Speaker 1>that choice too. Like people women on that age didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really realize that they could choose themselves and understand like

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<v Speaker 1>what that would mean to them and their self esteem

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<v Speaker 1>and their entire lives probably changed, which is so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It's it's crazy to think. And I and

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<v Speaker 2>I especially went through this because I was just in

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<v Speaker 2>UH in Europe at a fan event over there and

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<v Speaker 2>UH and so many young people came over to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to me. They were with their moms and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their moms and made them watch the show and they

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<v Speaker 2>were they were all just telling me how much they

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<v Speaker 2>liked it and how how relevant they all thought it.

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<v Speaker 2>It still was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's so cool like that that show still is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a whole new generation of watchers. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever think when we were filming that show

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<v Speaker 1>that we would be here talking like this about what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? No, No, I really didn't. I was no. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved you know, I mean, I love the show, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we made I thought we made a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of great television. But but I also, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I also I was also very you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and how many people remember this, but we really struggled

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<v Speaker 2>to get through our first season, and you know, our

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<v Speaker 2>numbers were barely keeping us on the air. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were sort of a top sixty show. Like it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't It's not like we not like we hit it

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<v Speaker 2>gangbusters out of the gate. So and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I I you know, I I give

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<v Speaker 2>props to you know, the people at Fox, and they

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<v Speaker 2>kept us on the air. And you know, like Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron must have been in there fighting every day to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the show on the air. And I'm and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>obviously very glad that he did, because I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, once once the show hit its stride and

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<v Speaker 2>once the show kind of found its audience, the first

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<v Speaker 2>Gulf War was was good for us because Fox was

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<v Speaker 2>the only channel that was still showing entertainment, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think we gained a lot of followers that way. But

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<v Speaker 2>we gained you know, the summer episodes in season two

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<v Speaker 2>with a big turning point for all of us. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think all the time how lucky we are

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<v Speaker 1>to have had the careers that we have, and that

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<v Speaker 1>so many people around the world love us and support us.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's no feeling that kind of describes that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I only share that with my fellow cast mates, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's such a bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is. It's cool, it's unbelievable, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel like we were all incredibly blessed by

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<v Speaker 2>by the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>We all brought so much of ourselves to the characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say this because I'm a super fan. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching the show back, as you know, on OMG podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love the show so much. I never knew

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<v Speaker 1>how much I love the show. I'm so invested in

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<v Speaker 1>the characters and it's blowing my mind that it took

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<v Speaker 1>me this long to catch on. But people, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think we brought so much of ourselves into each of

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<v Speaker 1>our characters. There are times when Kelly blurred into Jenny

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<v Speaker 1>and Brandon blurred into Jason, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the magic sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we did, We did well. I mean, do

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<v Speaker 2>you remember the meetings that we used to have with

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<v Speaker 2>the writers at the end of every season and they

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<v Speaker 2>would say, so, what are you into? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing these days? And you know, like, uh, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you what do you think about? What do you think about?

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<v Speaker 2>The storyline? About this?

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<v Speaker 3>That sent me into it was really it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was something I'd never experienced before, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>I think that sort of encouraged everyone to bring.

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<v Speaker 2>More of their own personal uh experience and personal likes

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<v Speaker 2>and dislikes to the to the character. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look at look at David Silver and his

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<v Speaker 2>music career. You know that was happening alongside Brian Austin

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<v Speaker 2>Green and his music career. It was all very It

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<v Speaker 2>was all it was all very It felt it felt

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<v Speaker 2>very in house all in a way, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now, watching it back, though, it just doubles down

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<v Speaker 1>the fact for me that you're such a good actor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to know, do you know what a

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<v Speaker 1>good actor you are? Like, do you know that without

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<v Speaker 1>a doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. I'm I feel like I'm pretty competent. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel I feel like I feel like I've figured out

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good system, like a pretty good technique for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's when when you're a young actor and

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<v Speaker 2>you're you know, and you study with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people and you're trying to figure out a technique that

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<v Speaker 2>works for you and uh, and how you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to get to the places that you need

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<v Speaker 2>to get to as as what a whatever character you're portraying.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I sort of you know, my my technique

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<v Speaker 2>is sort of an amalgamation of a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>different teachers that I worked with over the years and

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<v Speaker 2>things that I picked up, you know, just being on

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<v Speaker 2>set and you know, working with directors and working with

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<v Speaker 2>other actors and you know, seeing seeing what their process is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's one of those things that becomes

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<v Speaker 2>certainly as you get older, it becomes very personalized.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like that on the job training though.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's absolutely the best. And you know, spending my twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, making you have two hundred and eighty hours

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<v Speaker 2>of television like I couldn't have been in a better

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<v Speaker 2>place to learn to get better. So it's funny you

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<v Speaker 2>say that you know you love the show. When I

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<v Speaker 2>watched the really early episodes of the show, all I

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<v Speaker 2>can see is my bad acting. And then and then

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<v Speaker 2>as the seasons go on, it felt like it got

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<v Speaker 2>much better. But I saw I saw a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of mugging and a lot of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's some of that for everybody. But like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you'res I'm in season seven right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks Snne.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so lucky to have worked opposite you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really realize that now maybe I took it for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, wait, I have to pause for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought of something. Okay, while I was researching

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<v Speaker 1>for our little talk today, I had to do a

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<v Speaker 1>double take because you were in a Britney Spears music video. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never knew about it. You Pharrell, what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Powers? Mike Myers Like, when did that happen? And

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't nobody tell me about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that happened because because Mike and I were friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike and I used to play hockey together and h

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<v Speaker 4>and after I did snl Uh, Mike, Mike and I

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<v Speaker 4>spend a little bit of time together and.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and then uh and he would he would always

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<v Speaker 2>invite me to like, you know, table readings and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>charity thing whatever he was doing right and uh. And

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<v Speaker 2>then one day he calls me and this was the

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<v Speaker 2>mose for the second Austin Powers movie. They did that.

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<v Speaker 2>They added that video to the soundtrack, and he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do a music video for you. So he called

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<v Speaker 2>me out and he was like, Hey, will you come

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<v Speaker 2>and do this Britney Spears video. It's you and take

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<v Speaker 2>Diggs and me and it'll be super fun. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, did you know going into it that you were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be that you were the one that had

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<v Speaker 1>to dance with her like grind on the dance.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea. I had no idea what I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting into.

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<v Speaker 1>As I know, you wouldn't have done that if I

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<v Speaker 1>had told you, because I know how much you love

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<v Speaker 1>to dance.

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<v Speaker 2>God it was but you literally.

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<v Speaker 1>Are just like there and you dance for just a

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<v Speaker 1>second and then you back on out. You guys, if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen this, you need to check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's priceless. What's his name of her song?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Boys, Boys Boys?

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<v Speaker 1>You remember? Oh my god, it's so good, It's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, can I just time out for a second. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to do research before talking to me each other,

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<v Speaker 2>for I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>I take my job very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, no, no, no doubt, no doubt. I

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<v Speaker 2>like it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's many things I did not need to research. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, that's pretty much the only thing I uncovered. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So by season three you were not only acting in

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but you were also directing episodes. You were

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<v Speaker 1>the first one of us to lead that charge. And

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't directed anything before that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I hadn't. I directed the year before that, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. So for me, getting that opportunity from

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron was a really big deal. And that episode, that

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<v Speaker 2>episode turned out great. It was super fun. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you mean you remember the day that the two days

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<v Speaker 2>we spent up at Magic Mountain and were you there

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<v Speaker 2>in Magic Mountain?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>You were there, because me and.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, we were at Magic Mountain and these camera

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<v Speaker 2>mounts on the on the roller coasters and stuff. It

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<v Speaker 2>was super fun and I think the storyline was we

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<v Speaker 2>were there for some or you were there for some

0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of like Senior did stay or something, and some

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<v Speaker 2>dude tried to steal Donna's purse.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I don't know. I just remember Shannon and

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<v Speaker 1>I riding over and over and over on the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>baddest roller coaster. We just kept saying, go again, go again,

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<v Speaker 1>go again. That was the best day ever. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were You're just a natural born leader. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>natural born director. It's so apparent, you know you. You are

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<v Speaker 1>great at leading a set, You're great at setting a tone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just blown smoke up her. But either by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate that, Jenny, those are things that I

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<v Speaker 2>worked very that I've had to work very hard on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm sure that it's not easy to like

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<v Speaker 1>go from being an actor, especially a heart throb, into

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<v Speaker 1>being taken seriously in the in the directing world. But

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<v Speaker 1>you've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it wasn't It definitely wasn't easy. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>I've certainly been enjoying a certain amount of success behind

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<v Speaker 2>the camera, which which I really which I really enjoy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I like I I from the from the

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<v Speaker 2>minute I should shot that first episode. And at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of season three, I was like, oh, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is for me, this is this is what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be doing. And you know, and and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to direct a lot of episodes of of ninety two

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<v Speaker 2>and them before moving on. Like it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>very uh, it was it was good. It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great training ground for me too, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like having Rick Hunter and Steve Randolph and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the boys there to really show me the ropes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was, it was you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing that could have happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I had that same similar experience where they just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of let you take the lead, but we're just

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<v Speaker 1>always there to support you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was your when you directed? Who is your DP?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Rick or was it Steve? Steve Oko? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well Steve Randolph man, he was a He was a

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<v Speaker 2>beauty that that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing. I need to ask you one more question

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<v Speaker 1>about nine. Okay, who taught you to kiss like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because your kisses now okay, I know because you were

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<v Speaker 1>kissing me, but watching him back, Oh my god, you

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<v Speaker 1>are an aggressive, really good kisser.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Thanks, Yeah, how many women.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you've kissed? God, come on, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>those people. If you were to ask this question, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like maybe a double digit, but I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>triple for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I it's if it's not triple digits, it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be really close.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is it weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what, No, it's got to be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's well into the triple digits. I mean I kissed

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred girls on nine to two one oh on camera,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Off, Oh my god, Yeah, you're you're a very distinct kisser.

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<v Speaker 2>No, anywhoin in a good way? Is it distinct? No?

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<v Speaker 1>A good way. We kind of eat my face off.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a few times, but that it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay because it looked good. I just remember getting like

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<v Speaker 1>incredible razors scratch, what's that called burns on my face

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<v Speaker 1>from your whiskers. Yeah, there was just yeah, no controlling

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<v Speaker 1>that the good old days. Can you believe we're parents

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<v Speaker 1>of kids that are the age we were then?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is. That is the most shocking thing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you don't feel any different right talking to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're back there the same age. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel any different, But we have grown almost

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<v Speaker 1>grown up kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you do have grown yeah, my kids, My kids

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<v Speaker 2>are almost grown up. But it's but yeah, it's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>What if they were doing what we were doing in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I would feel like a failure as a parent.

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<v Speaker 5>Why because I've spent my whole life with my kids

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<v Speaker 5>saying to them, hey, guys, look I know what I

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<v Speaker 5>I know what I do, but it's not real, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not you know, the success that I that

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<v Speaker 2>I've enjoyed in this career is not normal. So like

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<v Speaker 2>to don't think you're just going to follow in dad's

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<v Speaker 2>footsteps and it's going to be you know, smooth sailing

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to be you know, on your way

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<v Speaker 2>to the Emmy's the next week, right, Like, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not like that. And so I tried, so

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to be super hyper realistic with them about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, about about choosing your career and choosing a

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<v Speaker 2>job path that's something that has some security and.

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<v Speaker 1>H how's that working out for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it worked, it's worked out well with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>With my son, I mean, he doesn't really know what

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 2>he wants to do yet, but but but in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>while he's trying to figure it out, he's, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot, which I can tell you love that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, you probably be honest. I love going

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<v Speaker 2>and watching him and I love watching him do his thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's yeah, you know, he he loves it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I love it for him. But you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's gonna be. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's gonna be as his life's work or he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna find if he gets as.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucky as you. What if he gets as lucky as us?

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<v Speaker 1>You say that doesn't happen anymore, but maybe it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I would be. I would be super

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<v Speaker 2>proud of him and super excited for him if he could,

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<v Speaker 2>if he could enjoy a career like I'd like the

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<v Speaker 2>one that I had, I'd be super stoked. But but

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, but I also I worry because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a parent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. None of what's None of your daughters

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<v Speaker 2>are what are they? What are they into?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? One is working in New York. She lives there,

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<v Speaker 1>she's on her own. She does event planning, and the

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<v Speaker 1>other one is my daughter Lola in the middle one.

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<v Speaker 1>She is in fashion, she helps me run my brand.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my youngest who's eighteen is I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen for her. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a natural. She's very natural in front of the camera. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, as she started her career yet as she started

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<v Speaker 2>doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet she got some headshots done right step one. Yeah,

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and she is very exciting news. I'm not allowed to

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about it yet, but she's got something else that's

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 1>happening that's going to be amazing. So wow, Yeah, I

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to happen for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Good, Well you know what. That's exciting. That's exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be nerve racking for you and

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<v Speaker 2>awesome for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you a question, kind of a

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:13.360
<v Speaker 1>serious one. Okay, can we talk about grief a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we've both been through it mm hmm more than

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<v Speaker 1>once and it's I'm really talking about the passing of

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>our friends and co stars, Luke and Shannon. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really sat down and talked about like how you dealt

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>with it and how I dealt with it. Well, where

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 1>are you in your grief? Process. Are you still I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I don't feel like I've gone anywhere in

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.120
<v Speaker 1>my grief process. I feel like I've kind of stalled

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<v Speaker 1>it so that I don't have to accept.

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<v Speaker 2>It right Where am I? I'm in the acceptance part

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 2>with both them, you know, like you know, obviously Luke's

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:07.239
<v Speaker 2>passing was far more shocking than Shan's. And I and

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I and I, uh, you know, at the time, the time,

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the time, when the time, while Shannon was sick, I uh,

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, whenever I had the chance to spend time

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 2>with her, I made sure that I that I said

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>all the things that I wanted to say to her.

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 2>So so when she did pass away, I feel like

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.920
<v Speaker 2>her and I had had said everything that we needed

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 2>to say to each other, which I think gave me,

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, some closure, like right away, you know, which

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 2>which was good because you know, it's tough. It's tough

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>being being a cast as young as we all are.

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>To have lost two of our castmates already is is shocking,

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 2>well relatively young, uh and and and Luke. Uh, you know,

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Luke's passing was so uh shocking and like just came

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 2>out of the blue, Like it took me a lot

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 2>longer to to reconcile that and and what that meant.

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 2>But I but I also, unfortunately for myself, you know,

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I've I lost a couple of other really close friends

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>of mine in the inter in the in the years,

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, in my adult years. So I I unfortunately,

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm starting to get pretty good at uh and

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>saying goodbye to my friends, which is just said, mm hmmm.

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the moment you found out about Luke?

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't you? It was you. You called me on

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 2>the phone.

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I called you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you called me? What yeah, this is? And I

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>was and I was and I was in the kitchen

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 2>in my in my house, and the phone rang. It

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 2>was you, and I said, hey, Jenny, what's going on?

0:24:58.720 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>She goes, do you know what's going on with you

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>know what happened with Luke? And I was like no.

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 2>And then you told me what was happening and where

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 2>he was and what the what what was going on?

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And you said, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna call you

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 2>back when I know more. And then you because I

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 2>felt I felt like you were kind of the hub

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 2>of the information because you because you were talking you

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 2>you were talking to Madison told you, Yeah.

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And his manager I and I was at the hospital

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to get in to see him, right, but they

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:34.959
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let anyone in. And they actually told me he

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even there, but I knew he was. I can't

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>believe I forgot that I called you, Like that's blocked

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>for me.

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, of course you wouldn't remember. I'm sure

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. You were in shock like the rest of us. Yeah,

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 2>that was hard. That was tough that day, those those

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 2>few days were not fun for anybody. M H.

0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>And you know, and with Shan too, Like I feel you'll,

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like when one of us, another one of us goes

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 1>passes away, our life ends it. There's this bond that

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>until not only until our last breath, but until the

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>end of time. I feel like we are intertwined and

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>connected on such a level that when something bad happens

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to you, I will come into that conversation, when something

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>bad happens to me, Brian will come into that conversation,

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Like we're all so connected in this wild way.

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true. You know, I enjoy it because I comfort.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like I do? I do? Yeah, And

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 2>I came from a small family. It was just me

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and my sister and so to you know, to sort

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 2>of feel like I have this extended family. Is it's good.

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It feels good.

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's some It's just there's something so special about

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it and we I don't think any of us take

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it for granted now. I think maybe before we lost

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>luke h, I think maybe it was a little easier

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 1>for us to like not think about that as much.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>But now it's just so in the front of my

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>mind all the time. How fucking grateful I am to

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>have all of you and have this shared experience that

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.159
<v Speaker 1>we can never forget and people will never forget.

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's documented right like it It's not like

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>we had an experience that that only we got to experience,

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>right we We had an experience that that there was

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 2>there was a global experience, and that's that's something that

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 2>that that's incredibly special that not many people get to

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>get to live in that rarefied air. And I feel

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel we were all super fortunate to be there,

0:27:55.960 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, right place, right time, right and we were done.

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You've done so many projects, We've all done so many

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>other things. But I don't feel like that bond can

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 1>ever be recreated. There are different kinds of bonds that

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>happen on sets. But I got really good over the

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>years at meeting a new cast or for whatever period

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of time, three weeks, four years, and knowing that at

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>some point that's going to end, and we're going to

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>part ways and we're probably not going to talk to

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>each other anymore, like as much as we see each

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>other now, you know, Yeah, I don't feel like the

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>bonds are the same. That's what I'm trying to say.

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I totally agree with that.

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And part of that, you know, probably had to do

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.479
<v Speaker 2>with the ages that we all were and you know,

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>and and the amount of time that we worked. You know,

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>we were working ten months a year together, right, Like,

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>we spent a lot of time together, and it was

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and those are and those are really formative years for

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>all of us, right, whether whether you know whether our

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>cast made was nineteen or twenty five, you know, we

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>were all in it together, and like you know, we

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>used to do. And by the way, nobody does fun

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 2>ship after work anymore. Yeah, because you know, I got

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I work on the series all the time,

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>and you know, everyone just goes home. I got study

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>my lines I got, you know, we would be.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Like, let's party, let's take out.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>We're going out, man, We're going to We're going to

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 2>marriage text Max and we're going to sing karaoke till

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>two in the morning, you know, and then we're gonna

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>get up and go back to work. Like what would

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>we like?

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.719
<v Speaker 1>We were young, man, we were young. Now I just

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>want to go home and get to bed so I

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>can get my eight hours before I have to get

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>up again. Oh my god, I having such a vivid

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>flashback right now. I don't think we've ever talked about this.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the time when I think I was

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of drinks. I don't know where we were.

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>You're like, uh, whitch time? But no, the time and

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I professed my never ending love for Luke to you,

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>oh and I was like, but Jesson, I'm in love

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>with him, Like we know me, I, Jenny am in

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>love with him. I don't know what to do.

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember I do remember this.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we were in a hotel, well, I.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Think we were. I think we're in a hotel Universal.

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's it right. It was when we were

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 2>doing that that episode of what was the High School

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>graduation and the college graduates, whatever we were doing up there.

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I remember, what did you do with that? What did

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I just? I just put that away. I just put that.

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I put that in the vault for you January.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, good girl, okay you and the rest of

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the world.

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I just I looked over your shoulder and I said

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>to the bartender cut her off.

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>But oh my god, I was just remembering that it

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>was so good. It was so good. Okay. So you know,

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>on this probably talk about choices and yes, where they

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>lead us. So I want to talk about when did

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you realize that you needed to choose to leave the show?

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>H it was it was It was halfway through the

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>eighth season when we went away for Christmas break and

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I I went, I went away. Where did I go?

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I went to Eastern Europe. I went to Hungary or

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>some Budha past or something. Anyway, it was just I

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 2>had this overwhelming feeling like I just I couldn't see

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the light at the end of the tunnel, and I

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and not that not that to hear our show was

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 2>was was bad or no, it was ending that I

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>that I that I was lamenting already at that point

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 2>in time. But but but I just I couldn't see

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 2>an ending. I think I was I was like, when

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 2>is this show gonna? Am I ever going to get

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 2>off of this show? And what's gonna happen? When I

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>started having all those thoughts, what's gonna happen when I

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>do get off the shows? Anyone never gonna want to

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>hire me again? Like all that stuff, And then I

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and then I and then I called Aaron when we

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 2>when we got back to work in January, and I said, so, like,

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 2>what's the plan? Aaron? Like what are we gonna do? Like?

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Are we gonna how much longer? Because because they were

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to make a deal with me from for the

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>next season, I say, like, what's the deal And we're

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>just gonna do like We're just gonna do one more

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>season and be done. It was. And he just kept saying, no,

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'll be dead before they take the show off

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the air, you know, and he was all and more

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>power to him.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's not what you wanted to hear.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 2>That's not what I wanted to hear. I wanted to

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to just I want, you know, And I

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 2>kept saying to them, Aaron, let's like let's end the

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>show while it's still well, our numbers are still big,

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 2>and let's go out on top. Let's not let's not

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>do that like slow descent into into anonymity, you know

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Let's let's leave, let's go out on

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>a high note. Let's and let's get it done. And

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 2>he didn't want to do that, and so I and so.

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 6>I, so I said, well, I feel like I I

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 6>gotta go or anything like, like there's other stuff I

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 6>want to do, and I feel like I just want

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 6>to I feel like maybe I need to leave the show.

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 2>And he got all offended. He was not happy.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>That must have been such a hard conversation.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>And then they did. It was it was. It was horrible.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 2>It was horrible. It was horrible. And I and you know,

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, had I known then what I know now

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>that the show was only going to last another year

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and a half, I would have stayed on the shelf.

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you didn't leave until season eight.

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 2>You said season nine. I think I did it.

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I thought it was earlier than that, because Shammon

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>was only there for four seasons.

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Luke was there for five five, Yeah, he did

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the first six or eight or ten episodes of season six,

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>and then that's when that's when we did the big

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, Rebecca gay heart story with them when they

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>when they were going to get married and then her

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 2>dad tried to kill kill kill her instead. Yeah. Yeah,

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>you watched that. You watched that? Does it hold up?

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's so upsetting. And then the next episode

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody mentions her he's mourning, but the whole rest of

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the cast is like, let's go to the party at

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the frat house. Like it blows my mind.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>So did they try to keep like did he try

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to keep you? Did he try to like incentivize it

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>more because you're already executive producing the show? Yeah, what

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>mark could he have offered you?

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, yeah, yeah, there wasn't There wasn't really anything.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, like I said in retrospect, you

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>know I would have I would have stayed on this show.

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it worked out the way it worked out.

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, it worked out the way it worked out.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>You did end up coming back? Please tell me I'm

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>right about that.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I did. Yes, the very last episode. I was so

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I was doing a play in London in the West end.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 2>When you guys were filming that last I was doing

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>a play called side Man. Okay at the Apollo Theater

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>with Edie Falco and myself. I remember that. Yeah, it

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:37.240
<v Speaker 2>was fun. But but but but I shot I filmed

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 2>something because I guess I guess at the wedding episode

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>that you know, they had a little thing, you know,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>brand brand instead of send a video file, which is

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, Aaron must have been panicked about that. You know,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>he hated technology in the show. That's why you know

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 2>it took his years to have laptops and our flip phones.

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so you only came back on a video Yeah,

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is not how I remember it. No, okay,

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not to the end of the show yet. I'm

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.439
<v Speaker 1>only in season seven, like I said, but I can't

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>wait to see what happens. And I'm very disappointed that

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you actually don't come back. I thought we got married.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>That didn't happen, did we? We almost got married already

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 1>before season No?

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, No, we didn't get married.

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>No, when did that happen? When did we not get married?

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>When we were getting.

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Married, Brandon asked Kelly to marry him twice. Wasn't it twice.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was twice.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Sure, No, you'd think I remember that, Yeah.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it was twice, and I think so,

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and it never happened.

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>We got onto the altar though.

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Who was wedding? Yeah, because we were we were we

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 2>were out on that bluff out amount about wasn't that

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Brandon and Kelly? No, that was Dylan, And that was

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Dylan and Rebecca.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca, that was a beautiful wedding. But ours was in

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the backyard of your house. That's right, we didn't we

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>stopped mid wedding or something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I feel like you're right. What season was added?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you watched that one already?

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I hope not, because that's a

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>real sad testament my brain right now. Do you have

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a good memory.

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I have a. I have a I feel like I

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>have a pretty good memory. There are there are. I

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>do have some gaps in the show, though, like because

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's hard for people to understand, but you know,

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 2>when you're when you're when you're producing that much material,

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:53.399
<v Speaker 2>every day in the workplace is so frantic and frenetic, right,

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 2>because you know, we got to get through these nine

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>pages and we got to do it in eleven hours.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You have to be here at six a m.

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's you know, at a certain point in time,

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the days all it just becomes like one long day. Right.

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 2>The whole season just felt like it was one day.

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah really did Yeah? And and so there you know

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.720
<v Speaker 2>there are gonna be gaps and that's that. Some people

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>bring up episodes. I'm like, we did that, really, but

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>it's sort of like the like, the event episodes are

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 2>the ones that sort of stand out to me. Right,

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, Burt Reynolds came to our set and was

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>was a guest star on the show, or you know,

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the camping episode, and you know stuff like that. Right,

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>those sort of event ones stand out more in my

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>mind than just have you ever watched the show Hanging

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Out in the wallsh house? I watched the I watched

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 2>the first season and a half with my daughter because

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.919
<v Speaker 2>she she was she was after a while, she was like, Okay,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to see anymore of that.

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.439
<v Speaker 1>She didn't get hooked.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 2>It sucks now. She was like, this was during COVID,

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 2>so she was twelve thirteen. Maybe, I mean that's kind

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 2>of been a sweet spot.

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you want were you like into it? Did you

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>want to keep watching? Or were you like, yeah, let's

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>turn it off.

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 2>No, I was okay to turn it off.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh No, I can't take my eyes off of it.

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for every week watching another episode. Not

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>only does it just like remind me of who I

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>am and who I was then and how far I've come.

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Like we've changed, we've changed. It's weird, we've not changed

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>at all, but we've changed so.

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Much of course.

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but when we talk to each other and we

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>are together, all of us, it's as if nothing has changed.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we fall back into all the same old patterns,

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and I love it. Yeah, I do too. I did too.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I always look forward to when we're all going to

0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>be together because I enjoy that when everybody just reverts

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 2>back to the way they were in their early twenties,

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it's awesome.

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>If you could go back in your life and do

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>it all over again, would you and.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Do it again? Do it all again knowing what I

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 2>know now?

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you would?

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 2>If I could know what I know now? Absolutely?

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>What is it that you know now that changes that

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>for you?

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I feel like I didn't know anything about how

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the world worked or what was really like I like,

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I understood what was happening, but we were in such

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:45.720
<v Speaker 2>a bible. Yeah, and I understand it so much better now,

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 2>like you know, like the TV series that I that

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I that I do now, it's just a different experience

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>just because I have so much more experience. And I

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.439
<v Speaker 2>never I you know, I never you know, on that show,

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I felt like a hamster on a wheel and I

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>had to just keep running as fast as I could

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 2>or I was gonna, you know, the wheel was going

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 2>to overtake me and spit me out right like uh

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 2>and I and I don't find myself of a feeling

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>like that nowadays. And so if I if I could

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>go back, if I could go back to our show

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and do it again, knowing what I know now, I

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 2>would absolutely do that.

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you would have more appreciation for all

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the little things?

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I would appreciate it more. I think

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>would have I have more fun.

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. You had a pretty good time,

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>as I recall.

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did, okay, Yeah, yeah, well we all did. Okay,

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we had we had. We had good times on

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>that show. That's dimming. Like we know, we all talk

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>about how hard. We worked, and we worked and we

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 2>did we worked incredibly hard, but we had we had

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.240
<v Speaker 2>tons of good times. And also I think that's what's

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>bonded us all together, you know, like I said, you know,

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you know we would we would all go out as

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>a as a group, and you know, especially when we're

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 2>shooting those like season finale episodes where we were always

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>in a hotel and we would all just stay in

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the hotel, and it's.

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Like our it's like we weren't we were our characters

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>when the camera was rolling, but the second the camera

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't rolling, we still treated one another as if we

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>were our characters somehow. Like it was so intertwined and

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>woven together and confusing, so confusing, I feel, do you

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 1>ever feel like you are ten years behind developmentally? Maybe

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you eight and a half years behind developmentally, like in

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>your emotional intelligence, perhaps like it you had. Because we

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't go to college, we didn't experience those extremely formative

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>times of you know, learning what independence was. We were

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>all just slammed into being adults, having adult bills and

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 1>responsibilities and full time jobs at such a young age.

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, well, we were in a bubble.

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever feel like because I feel this way,

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.919
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't develop fully and I had to play

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>catch up like in my thirties and even my forties

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of just developing emotionally.

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you feel that way? I did. Yeah. When

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I first left the show, I found myself playing catch up,

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:29.720
<v Speaker 2>also catch up, like socially and because we were always

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>at work, and it was like, I, you know, I

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>had some growing up to do as well, Like don't

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I feel like? I feel like that's pretty normal. And

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I think if you didn't feel like you had to

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>do any growing up, that would be a problem. Yeah.

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't dawn on me for a good ten years

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>though that I'm like, I'm living as if I'm that

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>age still, and I'm communicating as if I'm that age,

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and that doesn't work for a person my age. I

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>should I should be able to handle my emotions in a

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>different way or communicate in a different way, a more

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>mature way. But I just I had relied on that

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>so much for so long.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Of course. Yeah, well, well it's good that you recognized it,

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 2>but that's totally normal, and I went through the same thing.

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:29.720
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I was the only one. No, Well, okay,

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>do you remember that. I love this. I keep remembering things.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Do I remember this correctly? You had a really bad

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>racing accident, yes, and you died or almost died.

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I die. My heart stopped a couple of times.

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Where was this? And when was this?

0:44:50.400 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>In Sparta, Kentucky, August eleven, two thousand and two, and I,

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, what a big race against it? You know,

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I was racing Indy lights and so I was raising

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, two hundred mile an hour open wheel oval cars,

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and and it was doing that. It was my turn

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.439
<v Speaker 2>to have a big crash, and and I had one.

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 2>And uh, and they put me in the helicopter that

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>was at the track just in case. And I was,

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I was bleeding out so fast that inies. Oh I

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 2>I I broke my broke my nose when I pulled

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 2>my nose off my face. Actually it was really disgusting.

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I broke my orbital bone, my cheekbone, my ocul mantle. Uh,

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>three skull fractures. I broke my back, my ninth thoracic

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 2>bird of bray. I shattered both my feet. Yeah, that

0:45:55.719 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was it, so not too bad. And and then I

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>was I was bleeding so quickly because both of my

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 2>karateid arteries. You can see those scars I have right there.

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Those are from my seat belts. So you know, my

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 2>seat belts were outside my racing suit. I hit the

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 2>wall with such impact that my seatbelts cut into my

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 2>corotid arteries. So I was bleed. I was spraying blood

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:20.479
<v Speaker 2>seven feet in the air.

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Okay, oh.

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was. It was, it was. It was everything.

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 2>It was all of the things. And then so they

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 2>put me in the helicopter to fly me to University

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 2>of Kentucky to stabilize me and the helicopter. I went

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>back to the track and I met the pilots who

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>flew me in, and I said, so, how bad was

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 2>that guys when they put me in the back of

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 2>the helicopter. How bad was I? They were like, oh, dude,

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you were dead. You were you were you were you

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Your heart was barely beating. You were bleeding to death

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 2>right in front of us. But we were like, yeah,

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 2>we'll make the trip. Maybe you'll make it. And and

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 2>and then my heart stopped in the helicopter on the

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 2>way there, and.

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>The dogs see anything.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I did not see anything. You didn't see the light, No,

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 2>that that may just be for the special people. Oh,

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>you're not the special people. I need the good people.

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 2>You're good.

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it was there, you just didn't notice it.

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the blood was in the way or something.

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I was I was too busy dying to notice the

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 2>light that was shining in my eyes.

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>The story just takes me back to that moment of trauma.

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh how did you hear about that? Did you see

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it on TV like on the crawl in the bottom

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:34.319
<v Speaker 2>of TV? Or did somebody call you? Did Luke call you?

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't remember, Jason, because.

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Luke Luke was the first guy to be to be

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 2>at the hospital when when when I woke up, he

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:46.800
<v Speaker 2>was he was there, which was amazing.

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:49.879
<v Speaker 1>He was that way though.

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was, Yeah, he really was. He was. He

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 2>was special.

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I was in the hospital once with a really bad

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>kidney infection and anemia and he came to visit me.

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.320
<v Speaker 1>He was the one like at my bedside.

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh it really that? And And did you did you?

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Did you tell him what you loved him at that

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 2>point in time? No?

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I never told him. Okay, I mean with words. I

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>think he knew.

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure.

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is a deep question.

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>You guys had the funniest relationship. I mean, well, you know,

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, one one minute, you know, one minute you're

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>expressing your love. For the next minute you're sprayed Banaka

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 2>and his eye, Like, I don't was you guys, you

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 2>guys were you guys had this this, You guys had

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:46.839
<v Speaker 2>this and it was it was fun. It was fun

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot you guys had this like fun for you

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>post pole, post poll, it was, it was, it was

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 2>fun to watch.

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Glad you enjoyed it.

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 2>It was the show. Been the show.

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good times.

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't trade it for the world though, especially the

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>moment when I sprayed but knock in his eye. Okay,

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask, Oh.

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>My god, do you remember when I was shooting I

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 2>got I'm gonna backtrack it for one, so remember the

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 2>sixties episode, the flashback episode that I shot. It wasn't

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:32.240
<v Speaker 2>and uh and Luke's character had this like folks bus

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and he had a wig that's right. Do you remember

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 2>shooting that?

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Nope? What happened? Did something fun happen?

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? What happened? Uh?

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Dylan and Kelly were like in a van.

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they were in a van. And you guys were

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 2>and you got oh yeah, yeah, you guys were in

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the van and you guys were making out like like

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>like we literally me and Diana vall time or behind

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the monitor, like if someone get a bucket of water

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 2>and we got it.

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like.

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe and me I was like, no, keep it rolling,

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.720
<v Speaker 2>just keep keep going, guys, go burter.

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 1>You's sick of hilarious. Oh good stuff. Okay, I'm We're

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>going to wrap this up in a minute, but I

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you a couple of questions. What do

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you know in this life without a doubt? What is

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:33.240
<v Speaker 1>it that you.

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Know without a doubt? Wow? I know I at this

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 2>point in time in my life. The one thing that

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I that I well, I mean besides the fact that

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I love my kids and my kids love me and

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, but I know that that I know

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>how to make stuff like and not just stuff like

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 2>chairs or chests or drawers, but I know how to

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 2>make content and and I so I have I have

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 2>supreme confidence in my abilities to uh to create content.

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's and that's been you know, that's been a

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 2>new thing, Like that's really only come to me in

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:15.240
<v Speaker 2>probably the last five or six years.

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Is that inner confidence like that has just you can't

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>keep it down anymore. You believe it now?

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, totally, one hundred percent. I mean, you know,

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you know, even even sort of in

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the middle part of my career as

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 2>a director, you know, you're always you know, you know,

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you always question is that the right thing? Or should

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I do that? Or really you know, you always questioning yourself.

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And now I just I mean, I'm always questioning myself

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 2>to make the project better. But but it's not that

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I am questioning my abilities at all. And that's and

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that's been a new thing. And that's and that's the

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 2>thing that sort of happened to me in my fifties.

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think you know, you know, when I was younger,

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and I would hear people talk about, oh wait till

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 2>you get your forties, Wait to get your fifties, man,

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 2>it all changes. And I think that's what people were

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:01.879
<v Speaker 2>talking about. It's the fact that you just as as

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 2>your life goes on and you and you you gather

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 2>more information and you know more stuff because you've done

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 2>more stuff, you just you get to a point where

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:13.360
<v Speaker 2>you're like, I know how to do this now, and

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and and that that feeling of confidence I think is

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 2>it's great. It's wonderful to have.

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>It gives you a sense of freedom, doesn't it that overthinking?

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and you know who's got time to be insecure? Like, right,

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 2>let's just let's just get on with it.

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't waste any more of my precious days on

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>this earth being insecure. I really work. I mean that

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 1>is so clear to me too. No, it's just not

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 1>worth it. And I spend so much time doing that

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>being insecure.

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Really, I think the industry, I think all of us

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 1>in the industry are insecure. We don't know where our

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>next job is coming from.

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Yep, we don't know.

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, we know there's somebody else that could do

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the role we're doing. We just happened to have gotten it.

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 2>That's happened to me in the right place at the

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 2>right time, right, that's available for the money, that's me.

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay. How do you hope people remember you?

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Well? Uh, you know, I just hope people remember me

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 2>as a as someone who was who's good at their

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>job and you know, good to his friends and loved

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 2>his family. Like that's all. I don't you know, to

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 2>talk about legacy is something that. I don't think I'm

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.720
<v Speaker 2>quite old enough to start doing that yet.

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 1>You got to start planning for it, though, I feel

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>like you already Are you already have it?

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Well you're tapped in, Well I haven't. Yeah, I got planned,

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I got planned. Yeah, I'm planning. You know, you get

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 2>to a certain point you start you start looking to

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the future and you're like, oh, so, how many more

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 2>years am I actually going to do this? And how

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 2>many are how's that going to work? And what am

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:03.439
<v Speaker 2>I going to do? And you know, yeah, yeah, I'm

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 2>working on those plans or like the retirement plans.

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it a five year or ten year?

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Tell me, I'm I'm at ten years, ten years, Yeah,

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:12.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm ten years.

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeaheah, Okay, then you'll know what sixty I'll be

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 1>sixty five, sixty five, that's your deadline? Okay.

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to go with sixty and I

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 2>back that up to sixty two.

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 2>But I but I feel like I feel like, look,

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I still really enjoy what I do, Like,

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy acting, I really enjoy directing and producing, you know,

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>so I still really like it. So I'm and my

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 2>golf game's not that good yet. So until my golf

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 2>game gets better than my director game, I think I'm

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 2>going to keep directing. I mean, yeah, how's your great

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 2>how's your golf game? Have you talked to anybody on

0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 2>this podcast about golfing yet?

0:54:58.920 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, because you're a golfer now. You've

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 2>become a golfer in the last couple of years.

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:06.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did, and then I got my second Hipper

0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>place and I haven't played since, so it's been over

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>years since I played. But I'm actually going to be

0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>in a pro am coming up real soon, so I

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 1>figure I need to start swinging a golf club sometime

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>before then.

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a little nervous. You're in a pro am.

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 2>What pro am?

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the name of it off the top

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of my head. It's in Myrtle Beach.

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah that sounds so professional.

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not. I'm the weak link on the team.

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:36.880
<v Speaker 2>You're on the am side, not the pro side.

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 1>For sure. Oh man, I love hearing about your plans

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>for the future because I have plans to, Like, I

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:55.759
<v Speaker 1>want to be out when i'm sixty. I want to

0:55:55.760 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 1>have the choice when i'm sixty to really do only

0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm kind of there now. I've been making some

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>hard choices in my life about what I want to

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>do and what I don't want to do. Like, is

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>there ever a time for you when you know, you

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 1>get offered a job, an acting role, and you're like,

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to do that. I want

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:18.919
<v Speaker 1>to spend my time on a set yep, acting.

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do. I say, I say no to a

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of projects and it's and and to have that

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of freedom is is wonderful m hm. You know,

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.359
<v Speaker 2>because you know, God knows that you know the life

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 2>of anyone who works in the entertainment business. You know,

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you got to take that job you don't really

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 2>want to do because you got two kids in private school,

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.239
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes these things just happen. But I've been I've

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 2>been fortunate the last I don't know, five six, seven

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:54.439
<v Speaker 2>years that that I've been. Uh, you know, I get

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I get offered enough projects that that are compelling to

0:56:57.880 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 2>me and that I and that I want to pursue,

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm able to turn down a lot of

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I really don't want to do.

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Is there a project that you regret doing?

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, so many yes, Yes, yes, yeah, Oh my,

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, jeez, the highwaymen, that was that was

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 2>that didn't turn out the way that I thought it

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:31.240
<v Speaker 2>was going to. Oh, fancy dancing. That didn't turn out

0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the way I thought it was. What? Oh yeah, no, no,

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:34.919
<v Speaker 2>please don't wait.

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It about dancing.

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I just need to know, you lose all respect for

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.439
<v Speaker 2>me if you ever it's okay, here's the google. This

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 2>is Yes, yes you can. Of course you can.

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Good times tonight, people, of course you can.

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean you'll never get that ninety minutes back of

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 2>your life, I promise.

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Fancy dancing and that shut down.

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I love it.

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 1>You're so honest. I love it so much.

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>You're approaching the season finale of your current show, wild

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Cards on the CW.

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right, that's right.

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>How many seasons have you done?

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 2>This is the this is the season two only.

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Season two? What was the show before?

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm come before that, I was. I did a

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 2>show for five years called Private Eyes.

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Private Eyes, Okay, yeah, wild Cards is completely different, people.

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Wild Cards is a different show. Yes, and it's you know,

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, I play the dad now I'm now I've

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.160
<v Speaker 2>got I've run the whole damn it. In my career,

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I started as the engine and now I'm the father

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>of the engenue.

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 1>How's that feels? Like? Really? Like, really tell me how

0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>does that feel?

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'll tell you how it feels. It

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 2>feels awesome because I don't have to carry the freight

0:58:57.240 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 2>every day. I like, I just drop in every once

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.600
<v Speaker 2>in a while while do a couple of scenes, and then

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:06.360
<v Speaker 2>i'm you know, I'm home sucking to brew. It's amazing.

0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Sucking a brew. Wait, you don't go home and suck Bruce.

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't do that. I know that about you.

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:19.600
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't. That's a that's just a funny line

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that actually that Tim Allen used to say on whatever

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:27.200
<v Speaker 2>show he was doing, and the DP told me, but

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>he was like yeah, And then the kids all thought

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 2>he was saying home sucking a broom, and so they

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't understand it was You are.

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Just you have had so many experiences with so many

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 1>different people. That's one of the reasons I love talking

0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 1>to you, because you have great stories and you're a

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 1>great storyteller. I'm not the best storyteller. I need people

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to fill in all my blanks. That you're such a

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:56.880
<v Speaker 1>good conversationalist. And also just like I thought, I'm really

0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:59.440
<v Speaker 1>not just saying all this to make you like me more.

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:04.919
<v Speaker 1>But but you even like at our fan events, you're

1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy on our team, our cast, that is the

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.720
<v Speaker 1>one that's like, come right in, take this picture with us,

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like you're in charge of us. You tell us where

1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to sit, we do it. I think whatever were always

1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:19.440
<v Speaker 1>defer to you, like what Jason, what should we do?

1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 1>You're like the big brother.

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't. Yeah, But again that's the way it was

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:31.760
<v Speaker 2>back on the show, too, right. For some reason, I

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:34.880
<v Speaker 2>just I took on that mantle right well, I mean

1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I was number one in the call sheets, so it

1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:41.480
<v Speaker 2>was it was my job, job, and it's just it's

1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:47.280
<v Speaker 2>just sort of remained my job just in your genes,

1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 2>it is so. And so that being said in furtherance

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:54.160
<v Speaker 2>to your previous question, So you know, like being being

1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:55.680
<v Speaker 2>number one in the call sheet for as long as

1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I have been, you know, being number five on the

1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:02.400
<v Speaker 2>call sheet is like super liberating. I really I kind

1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:04.479
<v Speaker 2>of I kind of dig it. I like, for real,

1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:07.800
<v Speaker 2>it's fun. It's fun. It's fun to not have to

1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 2>just be top to bottom every day and carry the

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 2>freight and you know, drive every scene like it's it's

1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.240
<v Speaker 2>fun to just kind of be a passenger for a minute.

1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:17.360
<v Speaker 1>And you feel fulfilled.

1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:19.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And then.

1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 1>What do you do when you're not working?

1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I fly back home, because that's how little I work

1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:29.120
<v Speaker 2>on that show. It's amazing, like a fly a flight

1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:34.080
<v Speaker 2>to Vancouver for four days and shoot three episodes in

1:01:34.080 --> 1:01:37.040
<v Speaker 2>those four and then come home and then be at

1:01:37.040 --> 1:01:39.080
<v Speaker 2>home and you know, taking care.

1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Of my kids and doing pilates.

1:01:41.320 --> 1:01:43.680
<v Speaker 2>And doing pilates. That's right, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Jason not that long ago, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, and you look amazing. You're in such great shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Yes, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sitting back sucking bruise.

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<v Speaker 2>So so so Naomi, who you know, Ny only opened

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<v Speaker 2>a pilate studio here in Nashville, and so I've been

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<v Speaker 2>going to her pilate studio a lot, just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to support my wife. And somewhere along the somewhere along

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I've discovered it. It's a pretty awesome workout

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<v Speaker 2>if you do it really regularly. And so it's been

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<v Speaker 2>it's been really good. I've been really enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never, in my wildest dreams thought Jason Priestley would

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<v Speaker 1>be doing plates. But I have to tell you, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do pilates in the same class as you.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well come here anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, your wife is rad She's always been an inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You're such a lucky man.

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly am every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want our conversation to end, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>we all have other things to do in life before

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<v Speaker 1>I let you go, though, Jason Priestley, what was your

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<v Speaker 1>last I choose me moment?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? I choose me almost every day when

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<v Speaker 2>I go to pilates, because it is a totally selfish endeavor.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether I'm going there or I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>the gym, you know, I work out six days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not selfish. I got to stop you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not selfishish. It is no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not selfish because you have to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>yourself so that you can be there for your kids

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>You're taking care of yourself so you can be a

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<v Speaker 1>better caretaker and okay, father figure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to feel like it's selfish.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't. I don't think itself is in a

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<v Speaker 2>bad way, but I think it's I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It is a self serving act in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I also I also want to keep myself

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<v Speaker 2>in shape so I feel better. Yes, right, I mean, I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being being there for my kids and being

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<v Speaker 2>a better father for my kids, and it's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a byproduct of it. But I feel you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever want to be that guy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to another actor friend of mine about this

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<v Speaker 2>the other night and just talking about you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>getting older and how you know, as we get older,

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<v Speaker 2>our bodies start eating all our muscle masks, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's really important to you know, to resistance train and

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<v Speaker 2>keep your skin bag full so you get because if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, once your body eats all its muscle, then

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<v Speaker 2>then your bones start to get brittle, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>fall over and you break a hip and next thing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're, uh, you're home sucking to brew. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't work there, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The aging thing. It's good to know that you have

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<v Speaker 1>conversations like that with your friends, because I do too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>conversations I never saw myself having, but they matter. They

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<v Speaker 1>mean something to me. And sharing like knowledge and information

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<v Speaker 1>with people my same age worrying or thing thinking or

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on the same things is so important. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons I love doing this podcast because

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<v Speaker 1>we can really share a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>information with a lot of people. And I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>that message of that. What you're doing and choosing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself and as a byproduct for your family, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong. That's that's what it's all about, is taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself because guess what, nobody else is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned so much about you today. You danced with

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<v Speaker 1>Britney Spears and you did a show called Fancy Dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, the guy who would never dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, Brandon Walsh doesn't dance. You guys, everybody knows that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say goodbye. I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jenny, I love you too. It's been really

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<v Speaker 2>nice to talk to you today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you soon, I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I hope so too.

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<v Speaker 1>Give Naomi and the kids my love.

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<v Speaker 2>I sure will love to your girls. Jack