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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. Hi, everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about

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Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. You guys,

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Speaker 1: my guest today as someone I've called a friend for

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Speaker 1: over thirty years? Can you guess who it is? The

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Speaker 1: phrase that Kelly Taylor said, I Choose Me was in

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Speaker 1: part because of his character. We shared the screen together

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Speaker 1: on Beverly Hills nine on two ONA, where he played

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Speaker 1: Brandon Walsh and was nominated for two Golden Globe Awards,

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Speaker 1: which I have no recollection of for his work for

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Speaker 1: that role. Oh my gosh. Now you can catch him

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Speaker 1: on Wild Cars on the CW Wednesday nights. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: Jason Priestley to the podcast. Oh okay, this is good.

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Speaker 1: I'm over here doing happy dance that you're on the pod.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm it's nice to finally be here. Jed.

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Speaker 1: I know this is so you. Did you know you

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Speaker 1: are the number one requested guest to be on this

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Speaker 1: pod because we did a little survey and everybody wants you.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants Jason.

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Speaker 2: That's hilarious. That's awesome. Well, that's good to know. Good

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Speaker 2: to know if somebody still wants to pay attention.

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Speaker 1: Oh, somebody definitely does. Wait, do you remember when we

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Speaker 1: met yeah on teen Agel on.

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Speaker 2: Teen Agel in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, we were in Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in Phoenix. We shot that one in Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: We shot the first one in Phoenix. We shot the

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Speaker 2: second one in Salt Lake City. You're in the second one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, teen Angel returns.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, the original with Adam Bisk and Renee what

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Speaker 2: was Renee's last name.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember what my character was or what

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Speaker 1: my role was. Nothing. I remember nothing other than seeing

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Speaker 1: you for the first time and thinking, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: he's so cute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember it. I remember it was you were

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Speaker 2: you were one in Rene. You were Rene's like buddy.

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Speaker 2: You were here like kick number two. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 2: I think that was the last time you played the

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Speaker 2: female number two.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the good old days.

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Speaker 2: But you were a kid man, you were like in

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Speaker 2: high school, like you were seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I think I had my parents on the set with me,

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Speaker 1: and you had you had a girlfriend. I think was

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Speaker 1: that Robin?

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Speaker 2: No, No, no, I don't think I had a girlfriend

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Speaker 2: back then.

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. I was just like, I was

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Speaker 1: really stoked that our relationship was an automatic like friendship

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Speaker 1: and no drama, Like I don't know. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like a brotherly sisterly thing that we've always had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I love that about it.

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Speaker 2: It's true, you know. You know what it does. It

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Speaker 2: just makes it really comfortable whenever we see each other.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to. We don't have to, you know,

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Speaker 2: go back through the menu, show the last three months

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Speaker 2: before we saw each other. We can we left off right.

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Speaker 2: It makes it, It makes it much easier.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does. Okay, So I named my podcast I

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Speaker 1: Choose Me, which, as fans know, was when Kelly had

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Speaker 1: to choose between Brandon and Dylan and instead she choose herself.

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Speaker 1: But that's what sort of launched it all. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember filming that scene? Did you?

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Speaker 2: I do? I do? I really, I totally remember it.

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Speaker 2: And I remember you because you and me were on

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Speaker 2: the beach just north of the just north of the

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Speaker 2: Venice Pier, and Rusty, our steady cam operator, was exhausted

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Speaker 2: because we kept walking through the sand and doing a

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Speaker 2: And I remember it was it was it was kind

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Speaker 2: was it was cloudy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were on the beach, but the scene where

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Speaker 1: she says I choose me was outside the.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, because that's where that's where Brandon proposed

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm getting beach. That was the proposition, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the first time, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Did you understand the importance or that the ultimate meaning

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Speaker 1: of I choose me at that time? Because I did not?

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Speaker 2: I did, Oh, I did, I totally did. I totally did.

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Speaker 2: I remember you and me and Luke all joking around

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Speaker 2: about it, right, Yeah, because it because it was because

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Speaker 2: thought it was clever, and we thought we thought it

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Speaker 2: was an original choice. Like I don't remember ever seeing

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Speaker 2: uh a character on TV like that when when faced

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Speaker 2: with a choice of you can marry this awesome guy

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Speaker 2: or this awesome guy and the character goes no, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: And so brave, so brave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, I think you know, certainly in

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Speaker 2: those early seasons, as you know, first four or five

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Speaker 2: to do things like that that were that were you

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Speaker 2: know they were different and you know, sometimes controversial, you know,

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Speaker 2: but but I think it was important to to reach

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Speaker 2: our audience, the audience that we were trying to reach.

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Speaker 2: I think it was important for them that we addressed

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I have so many women that come to me

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Speaker 1: and say, when I saw that episode and I saw

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Speaker 1: Kelly choose herself, it dawned on me that I have

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Speaker 1: that choice too. Like people women on that age didn't

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Speaker 1: really realize that they could choose themselves and understand like

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Speaker 1: what that would mean to them and their self esteem

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Speaker 1: and their entire lives probably changed, which is so cool.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's it's crazy to think. And I and

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Speaker 2: I especially went through this because I was just in

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Speaker 2: to me. They were with their moms and they're you know,

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Speaker 2: It still was.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's so cool like that that show still is.

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Speaker 1: It's got a whole new generation of watchers. So like,

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Speaker 1: did you ever think when we were filming that show

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Speaker 2: Uh? No, No, I really didn't. I was no. I

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Speaker 2: I thought we made I thought we made a lot

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Speaker 2: we gained you know, the summer episodes in season two

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Speaker 2: with a big turning point for all of us. You know.

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Speaker 1: I just think all the time how lucky we are

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Speaker 1: Like there's no feeling that kind of describes that. And

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Speaker 1: We all brought so much of ourselves to the characters.

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Speaker 1: And I say this because I'm a super fan. Now

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's one of those things that becomes

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Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely the best. And you know, spending my twenties,

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, Jenny, those are things that I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. I need to ask you one more question

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Speaker 1: Do you think you've kissed? God, come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: Well you do have grown yeah, my kids, My kids

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. None of what's None of your daughters

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Speaker 2: with her, I made sure that I that I said

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00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: all the things that I wanted to say to her.

441
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: So so when she did pass away, I feel like

442
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: her and I had had said everything that we needed

443
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: to say to each other, which I think gave me,

444
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, some closure, like right away, you know, which

445
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: which was good because you know, it's tough. It's tough

446
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: being being a cast as young as we all are.

447
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: To have lost two of our castmates already is is shocking,

448
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: well relatively young, uh and and and Luke. Uh, you know,

449
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: Luke's passing was so uh shocking and like just came

450
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: out of the blue, Like it took me a lot

451
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: longer to to reconcile that and and what that meant.

452
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: But I but I also, unfortunately for myself, you know,

453
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: I've I lost a couple of other really close friends

454
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: of mine in the inter in the in the years,

455
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: you know, in my adult years. So I I unfortunately,

456
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm I'm starting to get pretty good at uh and

457
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: saying goodbye to my friends, which is just said, mm hmmm.

458
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: Do you remember the moment you found out about Luke?

459
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: I can't you? It was you. You called me on

460
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: the phone.

461
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: I called you.

462
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you called me? What yeah, this is? And I

463
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: was and I was and I was in the kitchen

464
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: in my in my house, and the phone rang. It

465
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: was you, and I said, hey, Jenny, what's going on?

466
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: She goes, do you know what's going on with you

467
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: know what happened with Luke? And I was like no.

468
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: And then you told me what was happening and where

469
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: he was and what the what what was going on?

470
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: And you said, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna call you

471
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: back when I know more. And then you because I

472
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: felt I felt like you were kind of the hub

473
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: of the information because you because you were talking you

474
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: you were talking to Madison told you, Yeah.

475
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: And his manager I and I was at the hospital

476
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: trying to get in to see him, right, but they

477
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't let anyone in. And they actually told me he

478
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: wasn't even there, but I knew he was. I can't

479
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: believe I forgot that I called you, Like that's blocked

480
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: for me.

481
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: Well, you know, of course you wouldn't remember. I'm sure

482
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: you know. You were in shock like the rest of us. Yeah,

483
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: that was hard. That was tough that day, those those

484
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: few days were not fun for anybody. M H.

485
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: And you know, and with Shan too, Like I feel you'll,

486
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: like when one of us, another one of us goes

487
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: passes away, our life ends it. There's this bond that

488
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: until not only until our last breath, but until the

489
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: end of time. I feel like we are intertwined and

490
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: connected on such a level that when something bad happens

491
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: to you, I will come into that conversation, when something

492
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: bad happens to me, Brian will come into that conversation,

493
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: Like we're all so connected in this wild way.

494
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. You know, I enjoy it because I comfort.

495
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: Do you feel like I do? I do? Yeah, And

496
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: I came from a small family. It was just me

497
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: and my sister and so to you know, to sort

498
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: of feel like I have this extended family. Is it's good.

499
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: It feels good.

500
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some It's just there's something so special about

501
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: it and we I don't think any of us take

502
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: it for granted now. I think maybe before we lost

503
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: luke h, I think maybe it was a little easier

504
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: for us to like not think about that as much.

505
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: But now it's just so in the front of my

506
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: mind all the time. How fucking grateful I am to

507
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: have all of you and have this shared experience that

508
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: we can never forget and people will never forget.

509
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's documented right like it It's not like

510
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: we had an experience that that only we got to experience,

511
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: right we We had an experience that that there was

512
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: there was a global experience, and that's that's something that

513
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: that that's incredibly special that not many people get to

514
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: get to live in that rarefied air. And I feel

515
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: I feel we were all super fortunate to be there,

516
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, right place, right time, right and we were done.

517
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: You've done so many projects, We've all done so many

518
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: other things. But I don't feel like that bond can

519
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: ever be recreated. There are different kinds of bonds that

520
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: happen on sets. But I got really good over the

521
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: years at meeting a new cast or for whatever period

522
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: of time, three weeks, four years, and knowing that at

523
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: some point that's going to end, and we're going to

524
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: part ways and we're probably not going to talk to

525
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: each other anymore, like as much as we see each

526
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: other now, you know, Yeah, I don't feel like the

527
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: bonds are the same. That's what I'm trying to say.

528
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I totally agree with that.

529
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: And part of that, you know, probably had to do

531
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: with the ages that we all were and you know,

532
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: and and the amount of time that we worked. You know,

533
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: we were working ten months a year together, right, Like,

534
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time together, and it was

535
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: and those are and those are really formative years for

536
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: all of us, right, whether whether you know whether our

537
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: cast made was nineteen or twenty five, you know, we

538
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: were all in it together, and like you know, we

539
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: used to do. And by the way, nobody does fun

540
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: ship after work anymore. Yeah, because you know, I got

541
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: you know, I work on the series all the time,

542
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: and you know, everyone just goes home. I got study

543
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: my lines I got, you know, we would be.

544
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Like, let's party, let's take out.

545
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: We're going out, man, We're going to We're going to

546
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: marriage text Max and we're going to sing karaoke till

547
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: two in the morning, you know, and then we're gonna

548
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: get up and go back to work. Like what would

549
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: we like?

550
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: We were young, man, we were young. Now I just

551
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: want to go home and get to bed so I

552
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: can get my eight hours before I have to get

553
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: up again. Oh my god, I having such a vivid

554
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: flashback right now. I don't think we've ever talked about this.

555
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember the time when I think I was

556
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: had a couple of drinks. I don't know where we were.

557
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: You're like, uh, whitch time? But no, the time and

558
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: I professed my never ending love for Luke to you,

559
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: oh and I was like, but Jesson, I'm in love

560
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: with him, Like we know me, I, Jenny am in

561
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: love with him. I don't know what to do.

562
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: Do you remember I do remember this.

563
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: I think we were in a hotel, well, I.

564
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: Think we were. I think we're in a hotel Universal.

565
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's it right. It was when we were

566
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: doing that that episode of what was the High School

567
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: graduation and the college graduates, whatever we were doing up there.

568
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: I remember, what did you do with that? What did

569
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: I just? I just put that away. I just put that.

570
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: I put that in the vault for you January.

571
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Like, oh, good girl, okay you and the rest of

572
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: the world.

573
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: I just I looked over your shoulder and I said

574
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: to the bartender cut her off.

575
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: But oh my god, I was just remembering that it

576
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: was so good. It was so good. Okay. So you know,

577
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: on this probably talk about choices and yes, where they

578
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: lead us. So I want to talk about when did

579
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: you realize that you needed to choose to leave the show?

580
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: H it was it was It was halfway through the

581
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: eighth season when we went away for Christmas break and

582
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: I I went, I went away. Where did I go?

583
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 2: I went to Eastern Europe. I went to Hungary or

584
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: some Budha past or something. Anyway, it was just I

585
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: had this overwhelming feeling like I just I couldn't see

586
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: the light at the end of the tunnel, and I

587
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: and not that not that to hear our show was

588
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: was was bad or no, it was ending that I

589
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: that I that I was lamenting already at that point

590
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: in time. But but but I just I couldn't see

591
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: an ending. I think I was I was like, when

592
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: is this show gonna? Am I ever going to get

593
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: off of this show? And what's gonna happen? When I

594
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: started having all those thoughts, what's gonna happen when I

595
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: do get off the shows? Anyone never gonna want to

596
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: hire me again? Like all that stuff, And then I

597
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: and then I and then I called Aaron when we

598
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: when we got back to work in January, and I said, so, like,

599
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: what's the plan? Aaron? Like what are we gonna do? Like?

600
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: Are we gonna how much longer? Because because they were

601
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: trying to make a deal with me from for the

602
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: next season, I say, like, what's the deal And we're

603
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: just gonna do like We're just gonna do one more

604
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: season and be done. It was. And he just kept saying, no,

605
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'll be dead before they take the show off

606
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: the air, you know, and he was all and more

607
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: power to him.

608
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not what you wanted to hear.

609
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: That's not what I wanted to hear. I wanted to

610
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to just I want, you know, And I

611
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: kept saying to them, Aaron, let's like let's end the

612
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: show while it's still well, our numbers are still big,

613
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: and let's go out on top. Let's not let's not

614
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: do that like slow descent into into anonymity, you know

615
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: what I mean. Let's let's leave, let's go out on

616
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: a high note. Let's and let's get it done. And

617
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: he didn't want to do that, and so I and so.

618
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 6: I, so I said, well, I feel like I I

619
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 6: gotta go or anything like, like there's other stuff I

620
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 6: want to do, and I feel like I just want

621
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 6: to I feel like maybe I need to leave the show.

622
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: And he got all offended. He was not happy.

623
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: That must have been such a hard conversation.

624
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: And then they did. It was it was. It was horrible.

625
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: It was horrible. It was horrible. And I and you know,

626
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: you know, had I known then what I know now

627
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: that the show was only going to last another year

628
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: and a half, I would have stayed on the shelf.

629
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe you didn't leave until season eight.

630
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: You said season nine. I think I did it.

631
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: No, I thought it was earlier than that, because Shammon

632
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: was only there for four seasons.

633
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Luke was there for five five, Yeah, he did

634
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: the first six or eight or ten episodes of season six,

635
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: and then that's when that's when we did the big

636
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, Rebecca gay heart story with them when they

637
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: when they were going to get married and then her

638
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: dad tried to kill kill kill her instead. Yeah. Yeah,

639
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: you watched that. You watched that? Does it hold up?

640
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's so upsetting. And then the next episode

641
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: nobody mentions her he's mourning, but the whole rest of

642
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: the cast is like, let's go to the party at

643
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: the frat house. Like it blows my mind.

644
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

645
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: So did they try to keep like did he try

646
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: to keep you? Did he try to like incentivize it

647
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: more because you're already executive producing the show? Yeah, what

648
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: mark could he have offered you?

649
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Like, you know, yeah, yeah, there wasn't There wasn't really anything.

650
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like I said in retrospect, you

651
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: know I would have I would have stayed on this show.

652
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: But you know, it worked out the way it worked out.

653
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it worked out the way it worked out.

654
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: You did end up coming back? Please tell me I'm

655
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: right about that.

656
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: I did. Yes, the very last episode. I was so

657
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: I was doing a play in London in the West end.

658
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: When you guys were filming that last I was doing

659
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: a play called side Man. Okay at the Apollo Theater

660
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: with Edie Falco and myself. I remember that. Yeah, it

661
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: was fun. But but but but I shot I filmed

662
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: something because I guess I guess at the wedding episode

663
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: that you know, they had a little thing, you know,

664
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: brand brand instead of send a video file, which is

665
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron must have been panicked about that. You know,

666
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: he hated technology in the show. That's why you know

667
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: it took his years to have laptops and our flip phones.

668
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so you only came back on a video Yeah,

669
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is not how I remember it. No, okay,

670
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm not to the end of the show yet. I'm

671
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: only in season seven, like I said, but I can't

672
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: wait to see what happens. And I'm very disappointed that

673
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: you actually don't come back. I thought we got married.

674
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: That didn't happen, did we? We almost got married already

675
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: before season No?

676
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: Right, No, we didn't get married.

677
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: No, when did that happen? When did we not get married?

678
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: When we were getting.

679
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: Married, Brandon asked Kelly to marry him twice. Wasn't it twice.

680
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: I feel like it was twice.

681
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: Sure, No, you'd think I remember that, Yeah.

682
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: I think I think it was twice, and I think so,

683
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: and it never happened.

684
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: We got onto the altar though.

685
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: Who was wedding? Yeah, because we were we were we

686
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: were out on that bluff out amount about wasn't that

687
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: Brandon and Kelly? No, that was Dylan, And that was

688
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: Dylan and Rebecca.

689
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: Rebecca, that was a beautiful wedding. But ours was in

690
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: the backyard of your house. That's right, we didn't we

691
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: stopped mid wedding or something.

692
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: That's right. I feel like you're right. What season was added?

693
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: Have you watched that one already?

694
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I hope not, because that's a

695
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: real sad testament my brain right now. Do you have

696
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: a good memory.

697
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: I have a. I have a I feel like I

698
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: have a pretty good memory. There are there are. I

699
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 2: do have some gaps in the show, though, like because

700
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: and it's hard for people to understand, but you know,

701
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: when you're when you're when you're producing that much material,

702
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: every day in the workplace is so frantic and frenetic, right,

703
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: because you know, we got to get through these nine

704
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: pages and we got to do it in eleven hours.

705
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: You have to be here at six a m.

706
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's you know, at a certain point in time,

707
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: the days all it just becomes like one long day. Right.

708
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: The whole season just felt like it was one day.

709
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah really did Yeah? And and so there you know

710
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: there are gonna be gaps and that's that. Some people

711
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: bring up episodes. I'm like, we did that, really, but

712
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: it's sort of like the like, the event episodes are

713
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: the ones that sort of stand out to me. Right,

714
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: you know, Burt Reynolds came to our set and was

715
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: was a guest star on the show, or you know,

716
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: the camping episode, and you know stuff like that. Right,

717
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: those sort of event ones stand out more in my

718
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: mind than just have you ever watched the show Hanging

719
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: Out in the wallsh house? I watched the I watched

720
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: the first season and a half with my daughter because

721
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 2: she she was she was after a while, she was like, Okay,

722
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 2: I don't need to see anymore of that.

723
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: She didn't get hooked.

724
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: It sucks now. She was like, this was during COVID,

725
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: so she was twelve thirteen. Maybe, I mean that's kind

726
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: of been a sweet spot.

727
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Did you want were you like into it? Did you

728
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: want to keep watching? Or were you like, yeah, let's

729
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: turn it off.

730
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: No, I was okay to turn it off.

731
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh No, I can't take my eyes off of it.

732
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: I can't wait for every week watching another episode. Not

733
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: only does it just like remind me of who I

734
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: am and who I was then and how far I've come.

735
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Like we've changed, we've changed. It's weird, we've not changed

736
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: at all, but we've changed so.

737
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: Much of course.

738
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when we talk to each other and we

739
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: are together, all of us, it's as if nothing has changed.

740
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we fall back into all the same old patterns,

741
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: and I love it. Yeah, I do too. I did too.

742
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: I always look forward to when we're all going to

743
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: be together because I enjoy that when everybody just reverts

744
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: back to the way they were in their early twenties,

745
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: it's awesome.

746
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: If you could go back in your life and do

747
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: it all over again, would you and.

748
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: Do it again? Do it all again knowing what I

749
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: know now?

750
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: Yes, you would?

751
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: If I could know what I know now? Absolutely?

752
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: What is it that you know now that changes that

753
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: for you?

754
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: Oh? I feel like I didn't know anything about how

755
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: the world worked or what was really like I like,

756
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: I understood what was happening, but we were in such

757
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 2: a bible. Yeah, and I understand it so much better now,

758
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: like you know, like the TV series that I that

759
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: I that I do now, it's just a different experience

760
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: just because I have so much more experience. And I

761
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 2: never I you know, I never you know, on that show,

762
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: I felt like a hamster on a wheel and I

763
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: had to just keep running as fast as I could

764
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: or I was gonna, you know, the wheel was going

765
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: to overtake me and spit me out right like uh

766
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: and I and I don't find myself of a feeling

767
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: like that nowadays. And so if I if I could

768
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: go back, if I could go back to our show

769
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: and do it again, knowing what I know now, I

770
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: would absolutely do that.

771
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: Do you think you would have more appreciation for all

772
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: the little things?

773
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would appreciate it more. I think

774
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: would have I have more fun.

775
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. You had a pretty good time,

776
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: as I recall.

777
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah I did, okay, Yeah, yeah, well we all did. Okay,

778
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah we had we had. We had good times on

779
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: that show. That's dimming. Like we know, we all talk

780
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: about how hard. We worked, and we worked and we

781
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: did we worked incredibly hard, but we had we had

782
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 2: tons of good times. And also I think that's what's

783
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: bonded us all together, you know, like I said, you know,

784
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: you know we would we would all go out as

785
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: a as a group, and you know, especially when we're

786
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: shooting those like season finale episodes where we were always

787
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: in a hotel and we would all just stay in

788
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: the hotel, and it's.

789
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: Like our it's like we weren't we were our characters

790
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: when the camera was rolling, but the second the camera

791
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: wasn't rolling, we still treated one another as if we

792
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: were our characters somehow. Like it was so intertwined and

793
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: woven together and confusing, so confusing, I feel, do you

794
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: ever feel like you are ten years behind developmentally? Maybe

795
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: you eight and a half years behind developmentally, like in

796
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: your emotional intelligence, perhaps like it you had. Because we

797
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: didn't go to college, we didn't experience those extremely formative

798
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: times of you know, learning what independence was. We were

799
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: all just slammed into being adults, having adult bills and

800
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: responsibilities and full time jobs at such a young age.

801
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: And like I said, well, we were in a bubble.

802
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like because I feel this way,

803
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: like I didn't develop fully and I had to play

804
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: catch up like in my thirties and even my forties

805
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: of just developing emotionally.

806
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel that way? I did. Yeah. When

807
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: I first left the show, I found myself playing catch up,

808
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: also catch up, like socially and because we were always

809
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: at work, and it was like, I, you know, I

810
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: had some growing up to do as well, Like don't

811
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: I feel like? I feel like that's pretty normal. And

812
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: I think if you didn't feel like you had to

813
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: do any growing up, that would be a problem. Yeah.

814
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I didn't dawn on me for a good ten years

815
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: though that I'm like, I'm living as if I'm that

816
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: age still, and I'm communicating as if I'm that age,

817
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: and that doesn't work for a person my age. I

818
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: should I should be able to handle my emotions in a

819
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: different way or communicate in a different way, a more

820
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: mature way. But I just I had relied on that

821
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: so much for so long.

822
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, well, well it's good that you recognized it,

823
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: but that's totally normal, and I went through the same thing.

824
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I was the only one. No, Well, okay,

825
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: do you remember that. I love this. I keep remembering things.

826
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Do I remember this correctly? You had a really bad

827
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: racing accident, yes, and you died or almost died.

828
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, I die. My heart stopped a couple of times.

829
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Where was this? And when was this?

830
00:44:50,400 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: In Sparta, Kentucky, August eleven, two thousand and two, and I,

831
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: you know, what a big race against it? You know,

832
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: I was racing Indy lights and so I was raising

833
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred mile an hour open wheel oval cars,

834
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: and and it was doing that. It was my turn

835
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 2: to have a big crash, and and I had one.

836
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: And uh, and they put me in the helicopter that

837
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: was at the track just in case. And I was,

838
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: I was bleeding out so fast that inies. Oh I

839
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: I I broke my broke my nose when I pulled

840
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: my nose off my face. Actually it was really disgusting.

841
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: I broke my orbital bone, my cheekbone, my ocul mantle. Uh,

842
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: three skull fractures. I broke my back, my ninth thoracic

843
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: bird of bray. I shattered both my feet. Yeah, that

844
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: was it, so not too bad. And and then I

845
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: was I was bleeding so quickly because both of my

846
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: karateid arteries. You can see those scars I have right there.

847
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: Those are from my seat belts. So you know, my

848
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: seat belts were outside my racing suit. I hit the

849
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: wall with such impact that my seatbelts cut into my

850
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: corotid arteries. So I was bleed. I was spraying blood

851
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 2: seven feet in the air.

852
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, oh.

853
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was, it was. It was everything.

854
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: It was all of the things. And then so they

855
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 2: put me in the helicopter to fly me to University

856
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: of Kentucky to stabilize me and the helicopter. I went

857
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: back to the track and I met the pilots who

858
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: flew me in, and I said, so, how bad was

859
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: that guys when they put me in the back of

860
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: the helicopter. How bad was I? They were like, oh, dude,

861
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: you were dead. You were you were you were you

862
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: Your heart was barely beating. You were bleeding to death

863
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: right in front of us. But we were like, yeah,

864
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: we'll make the trip. Maybe you'll make it. And and

865
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: and then my heart stopped in the helicopter on the

866
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: way there, and.

867
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: The dogs see anything.

868
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: I did not see anything. You didn't see the light, No,

869
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: that that may just be for the special people. Oh,

870
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: you're not the special people. I need the good people.

871
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: You're good.

872
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I think it was there, you just didn't notice it.

873
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the blood was in the way or something.

874
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: I was I was too busy dying to notice the

875
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: light that was shining in my eyes.

876
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: The story just takes me back to that moment of trauma.

877
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh how did you hear about that? Did you see

878
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: it on TV like on the crawl in the bottom

879
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: of TV? Or did somebody call you? Did Luke call you?

880
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't remember, Jason, because.

881
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: Luke Luke was the first guy to be to be

882
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: at the hospital when when when I woke up, he

883
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: was he was there, which was amazing.

884
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: He was that way though.

885
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah he was, Yeah, he really was. He was. He

886
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: was special.

887
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: I was in the hospital once with a really bad

888
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: kidney infection and anemia and he came to visit me.

889
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: He was the one like at my bedside.

890
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: Oh it really that? And And did you did you?

891
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: Did you tell him what you loved him at that

892
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: point in time? No?

893
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: I never told him. Okay, I mean with words. I

894
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: think he knew.

895
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.

896
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a deep question.

897
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: You guys had the funniest relationship. I mean, well, you know,

898
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, one one minute, you know, one minute you're

899
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: expressing your love. For the next minute you're sprayed Banaka

900
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: and his eye, Like, I don't was you guys, you

901
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: guys were you guys had this this, You guys had

902
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: this and it was it was fun. It was fun

903
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: a lot you guys had this like fun for you

904
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: post pole, post poll, it was, it was, it was

905
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: fun to watch.

906
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: Glad you enjoyed it.

907
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: It was the show. Been the show.

908
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, good times.

909
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

910
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for the world though, especially the

911
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: moment when I sprayed but knock in his eye. Okay,

912
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: I want to ask, Oh.

913
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: My god, do you remember when I was shooting I

914
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: got I'm gonna backtrack it for one, so remember the

915
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: sixties episode, the flashback episode that I shot. It wasn't

916
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: and uh and Luke's character had this like folks bus

917
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: and he had a wig that's right. Do you remember

918
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: shooting that?

919
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: Nope? What happened? Did something fun happen?

920
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god? What happened? Uh?

921
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: Dylan and Kelly were like in a van.

922
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: Yes, they were in a van. And you guys were

923
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: and you got oh yeah, yeah, you guys were in

924
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 2: the van and you guys were making out like like

925
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: like we literally me and Diana vall time or behind

926
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: the monitor, like if someone get a bucket of water

927
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: and we got it.

928
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: I feel like.

929
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: Maybe and me I was like, no, keep it rolling,

930
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 2: just keep keep going, guys, go burter.

931
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: You's sick of hilarious. Oh good stuff. Okay, I'm We're

932
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: going to wrap this up in a minute, but I

933
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: want to ask you a couple of questions. What do

934
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: you know in this life without a doubt? What is

935
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: it that you.

936
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: Know without a doubt? Wow? I know I at this

937
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: point in time in my life. The one thing that

938
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: I that I well, I mean besides the fact that

939
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: I love my kids and my kids love me and

940
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but I know that that I know

941
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: how to make stuff like and not just stuff like

942
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: chairs or chests or drawers, but I know how to

943
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: make content and and I so I have I have

944
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: supreme confidence in my abilities to uh to create content.

945
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: And that's and that's been you know, that's been a

946
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: new thing, Like that's really only come to me in

947
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 2: probably the last five or six years.

948
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: Is that inner confidence like that has just you can't

949
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: keep it down anymore. You believe it now?

950
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: No, yeah, totally, one hundred percent. I mean, you know,

951
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: because you know, you know, even even sort of in

952
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: the you know, the middle part of my career as

953
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: a director, you know, you're always you know, you know,

954
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: you always question is that the right thing? Or should

955
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: I do that? Or really you know, you always questioning yourself.

956
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: And now I just I mean, I'm always questioning myself

957
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: to make the project better. But but it's not that

958
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: I am questioning my abilities at all. And that's and

959
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: that's been a new thing. And that's and that's the

960
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: thing that sort of happened to me in my fifties.

961
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: And I think you know, you know, when I was younger,

962
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: and I would hear people talk about, oh wait till

963
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: you get your forties, Wait to get your fifties, man,

964
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: it all changes. And I think that's what people were

965
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 2: talking about. It's the fact that you just as as

966
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: your life goes on and you and you you gather

967
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: more information and you know more stuff because you've done

968
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: more stuff, you just you get to a point where

969
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: you're like, I know how to do this now, and

970
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: and and that that feeling of confidence I think is

971
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: it's great. It's wonderful to have.

972
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: It gives you a sense of freedom, doesn't it that overthinking?

973
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you know who's got time to be insecure? Like, right,

974
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: let's just let's just get on with it.

975
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: I can't waste any more of my precious days on

976
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: this earth being insecure. I really work. I mean that

977
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: is so clear to me too. No, it's just not

978
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: worth it. And I spend so much time doing that

979
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: being insecure.

980
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

981
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: Really, I think the industry, I think all of us

982
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: in the industry are insecure. We don't know where our

983
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: next job is coming from.

984
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: Yep, we don't know.

985
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: You know, we know there's somebody else that could do

986
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: the role we're doing. We just happened to have gotten it.

987
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: That's happened to me in the right place at the

988
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: right time, right, that's available for the money, that's me.

989
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: Okay. How do you hope people remember you?

990
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: Well? Uh, you know, I just hope people remember me

991
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: as a as someone who was who's good at their

992
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: job and you know, good to his friends and loved

993
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: his family. Like that's all. I don't you know, to

994
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: talk about legacy is something that. I don't think I'm

995
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: quite old enough to start doing that yet.

996
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: You got to start planning for it, though, I feel

997
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: like you already Are you already have it?

998
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: Well you're tapped in, Well I haven't. Yeah, I got planned,

999
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: I got planned. Yeah, I'm planning. You know, you get

1000
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: to a certain point you start you start looking to

1001
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: the future and you're like, oh, so, how many more

1002
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: years am I actually going to do this? And how

1003
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: many are how's that going to work? And what am

1004
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 2: I going to do? And you know, yeah, yeah, I'm

1005
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: working on those plans or like the retirement plans.

1006
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: Is it a five year or ten year?

1007
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: Tell me, I'm I'm at ten years, ten years, Yeah,

1008
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: I'm ten years.

1009
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeaheah, Okay, then you'll know what sixty I'll be

1010
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: sixty five, sixty five, that's your deadline? Okay.

1011
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to go with sixty and I

1012
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: back that up to sixty two.

1013
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

1014
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: But I but I feel like I feel like, look,

1015
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: you know, I still really enjoy what I do, Like,

1016
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: I enjoy acting, I really enjoy directing and producing, you know,

1017
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: so I still really like it. So I'm and my

1018
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: golf game's not that good yet. So until my golf

1019
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: game gets better than my director game, I think I'm

1020
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: going to keep directing. I mean, yeah, how's your great

1021
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: how's your golf game? Have you talked to anybody on

1022
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: this podcast about golfing yet?

1023
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: No?

1024
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so, because you're a golfer now. You've

1025
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: become a golfer in the last couple of years.

1026
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did, and then I got my second Hipper

1027
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: place and I haven't played since, so it's been over

1028
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: years since I played. But I'm actually going to be

1029
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: in a pro am coming up real soon, so I

1030
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: figure I need to start swinging a golf club sometime

1031
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: before then.

1032
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little nervous. You're in a pro am.

1033
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: What pro am?

1034
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't know the name of it off the top

1035
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: of my head. It's in Myrtle Beach.

1036
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah that sounds so professional.

1037
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. I'm the weak link on the team.

1038
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: You're on the am side, not the pro side.

1039
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: For sure. Oh man, I love hearing about your plans

1040
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: for the future because I have plans to, Like, I

1041
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: want to be out when i'm sixty. I want to

1042
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: have the choice when i'm sixty to really do only

1043
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of there now. I've been making some

1044
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: hard choices in my life about what I want to

1045
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: do and what I don't want to do. Like, is

1046
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: there ever a time for you when you know, you

1047
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: get offered a job, an acting role, and you're like,

1048
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to do that. I want

1049
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: to spend my time on a set yep, acting.

1050
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. I say, I say no to a

1051
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: lot of projects and it's and and to have that

1052
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: kind of freedom is is wonderful m hm. You know,

1053
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: because you know, God knows that you know the life

1054
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: of anyone who works in the entertainment business. You know,

1055
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: sometimes you got to take that job you don't really

1056
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: want to do because you got two kids in private school,

1057
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: and sometimes these things just happen. But I've been I've

1058
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: been fortunate the last I don't know, five six, seven

1059
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 2: years that that I've been. Uh, you know, I get

1060
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: I get offered enough projects that that are compelling to

1061
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: me and that I and that I want to pursue,

1062
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: and so I'm able to turn down a lot of

1063
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: stuff that I really don't want to do.

1064
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: Is there a project that you regret doing?

1065
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so many yes, Yes, yes, yeah, Oh my,

1066
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: oh my god, jeez, the highwaymen, that was that was

1067
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: that didn't turn out the way that I thought it

1068
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: was going to. Oh, fancy dancing. That didn't turn out

1069
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: the way I thought it was. What? Oh yeah, no, no,

1070
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 2: please don't wait.

1071
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: It about dancing.

1072
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: I just need to know, you lose all respect for

1073
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: me if you ever it's okay, here's the google. This

1074
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: is Yes, yes you can. Of course you can.

1075
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Good times tonight, people, of course you can.

1076
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean you'll never get that ninety minutes back of

1077
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: your life, I promise.

1078
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Fancy dancing and that shut down.

1079
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it.

1080
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: You're so honest. I love it so much.

1081
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: So.

1082
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: You're approaching the season finale of your current show, wild

1083
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: Cards on the CW.

1084
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, that's right.

1085
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: How many seasons have you done?

1086
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: This is the this is the season two only.

1087
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: Season two? What was the show before?

1088
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: Because I'm come before that, I was. I did a

1089
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: show for five years called Private Eyes.

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00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: Private Eyes, Okay, yeah, wild Cards is completely different, people.

1091
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: Wild Cards is a different show. Yes, and it's you know,

1092
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, I play the dad now I'm now I've

1093
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: got I've run the whole damn it. In my career,

1094
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: I started as the engine and now I'm the father

1095
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: of the engenue.

1096
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: How's that feels? Like? Really? Like, really tell me how

1097
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: does that feel?

1098
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll tell you how it feels. It

1099
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: feels awesome because I don't have to carry the freight

1100
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: every day. I like, I just drop in every once

1101
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: in a while while do a couple of scenes, and then

1102
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: i'm you know, I'm home sucking to brew. It's amazing.

1103
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Sucking a brew. Wait, you don't go home and suck Bruce.

1104
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: You don't do that. I know that about you.

1105
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't. That's a that's just a funny line

1106
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: that actually that Tim Allen used to say on whatever

1107
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: show he was doing, and the DP told me, but

1108
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: he was like yeah, And then the kids all thought

1109
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: he was saying home sucking a broom, and so they

1110
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: didn't understand it was You are.

1111
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: Just you have had so many experiences with so many

1112
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: different people. That's one of the reasons I love talking

1113
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: to you, because you have great stories and you're a

1114
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: great storyteller. I'm not the best storyteller. I need people

1115
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: to fill in all my blanks. That you're such a

1116
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: good conversationalist. And also just like I thought, I'm really

1117
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: not just saying all this to make you like me more.

1118
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: But but you even like at our fan events, you're

1119
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: the guy on our team, our cast, that is the

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01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: one that's like, come right in, take this picture with us,

1121
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: like you're in charge of us. You tell us where

1122
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: to sit, we do it. I think whatever were always

1123
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: defer to you, like what Jason, what should we do?

1124
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: You're like the big brother.

1125
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, But again that's the way it was

1126
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: back on the show, too, right. For some reason, I

1127
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: just I took on that mantle right well, I mean

1128
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: I was number one in the call sheets, so it

1129
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: was it was my job, job, and it's just it's

1130
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: just sort of remained my job just in your genes,

1131
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: it is so. And so that being said in furtherance

1132
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: to your previous question, So you know, like being being

1133
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: number one in the call sheet for as long as

1134
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: I have been, you know, being number five on the

1135
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: call sheet is like super liberating. I really I kind

1136
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,479
Speaker 2: of I kind of dig it. I like, for real,

1137
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: it's fun. It's fun. It's fun to not have to

1138
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: just be top to bottom every day and carry the

1139
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: freight and you know, drive every scene like it's it's

1140
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: fun to just kind of be a passenger for a minute.

1141
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: And you feel fulfilled.

1142
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And then.

1143
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: What do you do when you're not working?

1144
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: I fly back home, because that's how little I work

1145
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: on that show. It's amazing, like a fly a flight

1146
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: to Vancouver for four days and shoot three episodes in

1147
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: those four and then come home and then be at

1148
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: home and you know, taking care.

1149
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Of my kids and doing pilates.

1150
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: And doing pilates. That's right, you guys.

1151
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: I saw Jason not that long ago, a couple of

1152
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and you look amazing. You're in such great shape.

1153
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: Thanks, Yes, definitely.

1154
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: Not sitting back sucking bruise.

1155
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: So so so Naomi, who you know, Ny only opened

1156
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: a pilate studio here in Nashville, and so I've been

1157
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: going to her pilate studio a lot, just you know,

1158
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: to support my wife. And somewhere along the somewhere along

1159
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: the way, I've discovered it. It's a pretty awesome workout

1160
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: if you do it really regularly. And so it's been

1161
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: it's been really good. I've been really enjoying it.

1162
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: I never, in my wildest dreams thought Jason Priestley would

1163
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: be doing plates. But I have to tell you, I

1164
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: want to do pilates in the same class as you.

1165
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: That would be so fun.

1166
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well come here anytime.

1167
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your wife is rad She's always been an inspiration.

1168
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: It's so cool.

1169
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: You're such a lucky man.

1170
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: I certainly am every day.

1171
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't want our conversation to end, but I know

1172
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: we all have other things to do in life before

1173
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: I let you go, though, Jason Priestley, what was your

1174
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: last I choose me moment?

1175
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: You know what? I choose me almost every day when

1176
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: I go to pilates, because it is a totally selfish endeavor.

1177
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: And whether I'm going there or I'm just going to

1178
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: the gym, you know, I work out six days a week.

1179
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: But that's not selfish. I got to stop you.

1180
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: That's not selfishish. It is no, no, no, no, no.

1181
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: It's not selfish because you have to take care of

1182
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: yourself so that you can be there for your kids

1183
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: and you have to stay healthy.

1184
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's true.

1185
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: You're taking care of yourself so you can be a

1186
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: better caretaker and okay, father figure.

1187
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, okay.

1188
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't want you to feel like it's selfish.

1189
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't. I don't think itself is in a

1190
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: bad way, but I think it's I feel like it's

1191
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: it is. It is a self serving act in a way,

1192
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: you know. I also I also want to keep myself

1193
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: in shape so I feel better. Yes, right, I mean, I,

1194
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, being being there for my kids and being

1195
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: a better father for my kids, and it's sort of

1196
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: a byproduct of it. But I feel you know, I don't.

1197
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to be that guy. And I

1198
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: was talking to another actor friend of mine about this

1199
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: the other night and just talking about you know, like

1200
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: getting older and how you know, as we get older,

1201
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: our bodies start eating all our muscle masks, and so

1202
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: it's really important to you know, to resistance train and

1203
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: keep your skin bag full so you get because if

1204
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, once your body eats all its muscle, then

1205
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: then your bones start to get brittle, and then you

1206
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: fall over and you break a hip and next thing

1207
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, you're, uh, you're home sucking to brew. Now

1208
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: that doesn't work there, I mean.

1209
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: The aging thing. It's good to know that you have

1210
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: conversations like that with your friends, because I do too. Yeah,

1211
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: conversations I never saw myself having, but they matter. They

1212
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: mean something to me. And sharing like knowledge and information

1213
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: with people my same age worrying or thing thinking or

1214
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: focusing on the same things is so important. Yeah, that's

1215
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I love doing this podcast because

1216
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: we can really share a lot of a lot of

1217
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: information with a lot of people. And I think you're

1218
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: that message of that. What you're doing and choosing yourself

1219
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: for yourself and as a byproduct for your family, there's

1220
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: nothing wrong. That's that's what it's all about, is taking

1221
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: care of yourself because guess what, nobody else is going

1222
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: to do it.

1223
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

1224
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: I learned so much about you today. You danced with

1225
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: Britney Spears and you did a show called Fancy Dancing.

1226
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: Uh, the guy who would never dance.

1227
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: Exactly, Brandon Walsh doesn't dance. You guys, everybody knows that.

1228
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to say goodbye. I love you so much.

1229
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jenny, I love you too. It's been really

1230
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: nice to talk to you today.

1231
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: I'll see you soon, I hope.

1232
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I hope so too.

1233
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: Give Naomi and the kids my love.

1234
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: I sure will love to your girls. Jack