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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to.

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Speaker 2: Seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Man. Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson except no imitations, and it is well.

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Speaker 3: Happy uh Christmas Eve?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Happy Christmas Eve, the all happy holidays and happy

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Speaker 4: game Day.

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Speaker 3: When did I was thinking about this on my on

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Speaker 3: my drive here today. When did Christmas Eve become a

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Speaker 3: holiday as well?

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Speaker 4: I've always wondered that, like Halloween Eve doesn't get anything,

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Speaker 4: you know, Easter Eve right, Thanksgiving Eve right?

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Speaker 3: No July now that people get this day off like

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Speaker 3: it's you know, the holiday, it's a big one. Christmas

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Speaker 3: is such a big holiday. You get two days off

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Speaker 3: unless you're the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Unless you're us. Yeah, right here we are. We're not

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Speaker 4: off one bit right.

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Speaker 3: Now, not one bit. And uh, you know Game Day

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Speaker 3: tomorrow will probably put about fourteen hours in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I got plenty to do the rest of the day too.

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Speaker 3: My wife asked me what do you want for Christmas dinner?

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Speaker 3: I said, you make what you're gonna whenever you want,

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Speaker 3: because I'm not gonna be cold.

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Speaker 4: Leftovers at midnight or yeah.

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Speaker 3: She's like, well, what time you leave? I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: gotta leave the house at like seven forty five. Thankfully

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Speaker 4: Have to, you know. Yeah, yeah, Well we're having a

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Speaker 4: house full of people that are all excited to watch

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Speaker 4: the game with Matt. But Matt's gonna be up in

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Speaker 4: his bedroom with the door shut, with the laptop. The

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Speaker 4: wife didn't what do you mean, Mike, I kind of

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Speaker 4: have to pay attention to this. I can't have my

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Speaker 4: lovely aunt Judy or uncle Ke just going No, that's

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Speaker 4: not how we're doing it. That's not how this works.

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Speaker 4: She was also thrilled to hear that Week seventeen has

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Speaker 4: a game on Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Pretty good

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Speaker 4: bringing slate.

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Speaker 3: And we well, we also don't even know what the

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Speaker 4: True, true, Like, it's I like that they do that. Though.

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Speaker 3: I do believe, however, that the Steelers are going to

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Speaker 3: end up being at one o'clock. This is just my thoughts.

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Speaker 3: They'll be at one o'clock on Sunday, playing at the

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Speaker 3: same time as the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they're smart about how they do that. Like Tom

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Speaker 4: night show I did with him. He was like, assuming

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Speaker 4: they win, are still in it, You're definitely gonna have

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Speaker 4: like Miami, Indie, and Cincy all playing at the same time, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, because so it's not like, oh, they eliminated me,

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Speaker 3: So looking at maybe a standalone game might be a win.

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Speaker 3: And in situation like maybe Tampa Bay, I say, like

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Speaker 3: Is that be eighteen yes, yeah, yeah, it could be

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Speaker 3: that's interesting because the Vikings play the Green Bay this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they were actually ghost the resting guys

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Speaker 3: So that game.

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Speaker 4: For Green Bay but not as bad as usual this week.

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Speaker 3: If Minnesota wins that game in Detroit, wins where they

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Speaker 4: I think it's for all the marbles in the North.

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Speaker 4: Then I know, if Minnesota wins out, they win the

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to find there was a weekend Week eighteen,

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Speaker 3: so you got Minnesota a Detroit. That would make a

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Speaker 4: Week eighteen there are Saturday games.

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Speaker 4: It could be an elimination game for Denver. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well if the Steelers, if the Steelers win this week,

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Speaker 3: Just looking here, Chicago, Green Bay, Green Bay is already in.

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Speaker 3: That could be for the division title match. Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: You could stagger the NFC South though, that play one

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Speaker 3: Way, then I think the one that makes the most

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Speaker 4: You don't want they have to make this decision.

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Speaker 3: Say there's a lot of travel and logistics is right, right,

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Speaker 3: So I believe and again I'm just guessing on this

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Speaker 4: Makes this week. Yeah, home game obviously because.

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Speaker 3: They'll want Miami, since and Denver all playing at the

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Speaker 3: to know nobody rested, nobody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sitting there scoreboard watching.

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Speaker 3: So there's a couple meaningful, meaningful games upcoming, assuming teams

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Speaker 4: This week's got a pretty decent slate too. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: But the game at hand for us is Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 3: Just looking at the this is as a hole here

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Speaker 3: and I kind of laid this out in my story

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Speaker 3: time that Russell Wilson has faced that Steve Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't quite get to that yesterday.

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Speaker 4: We played against him twice a year in Denver.

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Speaker 3: The last two years. Yeah, saw saw him once when

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Speaker 3: when Spagnola was there. Russ's two for three has won

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Speaker 3: two of the five games. He's completed one hundred and

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Speaker 3: one of one hundred and fifty four passes for oney

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Speaker 3: It's a passer rating of ninety seven point one against

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's been pretty good.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure they were dogs in those games. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Beat them last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Denver did beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Now in that game. That was actually, if you look

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Speaker 4: Did they run all over them?

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Speaker 3: They turned them over quite a few times. But he

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Speaker 4: Which is what we've talked about Wilson before he even

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Speaker 3: He's largely I mean, yeah, he's got fifteen touchdown That's

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Speaker 3: the wayside. Nobody mentioned it. But they throw way more

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but two games to play and he didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So he's at fifteen touchdown passes with four interceptions.

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Speaker 4: Which is a trend of his obviously over the years.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing that that he has done well

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Speaker 3: His passer rating against against the blitz is one thirteen

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Speaker 3: They have the second highest blitz rate in the league

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Speaker 3: and they you're going to see it on third down,

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Speaker 3: every third down. Yeah, every third down. It's just nine guys.

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Speaker 3: It's the line of scrimmage. This corners are going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of sims there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: McDuffie's real good. Yeah, I mean I think in the

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Speaker 4: perfect world he's a slot but there, I mean that's

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Speaker 4: like it's kind of like the Hump. He's like a

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Speaker 4: better version of Humphrey to me. Yeah, Like ideally, if

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Speaker 4: but that's not how the world works. And he's a

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Speaker 3: But they used to have Steed who was their their porter. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: George Pickens coming back. If you're gonna press George Pickens

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Speaker 3: yeah on stuff like that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna if

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Speaker 3: I'm Russell Wilson any time I see that look where

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Speaker 3: they've got nine guys there. It looks like zero blitz

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Speaker 3: Now, one thing I don't does McDuffie travel. I don't that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it just I mean that's the ebb and

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Speaker 3: Because they've lost two in a row to two good

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were dogs in both. I mean that's.

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Speaker 3: We both picked them to lose those games. These aren't

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Speaker 4: I keep comparing it to Patriots Cardinals last year, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, you were expected to win those games.

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Speaker 3: And even those games like people forget Kenny Pickett got

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Speaker 4: He's proven that he's a backup on a good day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he doesn't give you the highs.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't give you know, the highs are there were

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Speaker 3: I think they can be successful against the Chiefs if

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Speaker 4: So they first down balance is intriguing to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, second and five sounds great. If they're in second

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing about this Chiefs team is if you

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Speaker 3: Red zone. You'd think of the Chiefs being a great

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Speaker 4: Okay, see, I've done very little homework by my standards.

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Speaker 4: Tuesday is my dig day. But I did do a

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Speaker 4: I mean, like you mentioned the third down stuff, this

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Speaker 3: Look like a five hundred foot they'll take five based

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yards per carry four to oh they allow four

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Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons why they blitzed Lamar

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Speaker 4: Don't have a porter replacement. No, it's not as big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because of that, you probably end up

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Speaker 4: I was thinking that as well. I mean, you're better

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Speaker 3: There are still people who think, I still get this

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Speaker 4: I get that all the time. Boys, He's turned into

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Speaker 3: and stuff's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: Then he got a huge contract. Yeah, And Titans gave

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Speaker 4: a bunch of good, nice picks in the game of

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Speaker 4: a huge contract. So those guys are super valuable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But to me, the third down stuff, I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're they're that's the biggest difference. They're they're converting eleven

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Speaker 3: percent more. They have one hundred and seven third down

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Speaker 3: conversions compared to seventy five allowed.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't surprise them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's like to a game. Two more

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Speaker 3: additional chances to continue to play in the game. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's huge, funding it away, right, yeah, and it gets

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Speaker 3: you into field goal range again, thirty one of sixty

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Speaker 3: in the red zone.

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Speaker 4: In the red zone too. Yeah. So all the weighty downs,

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Speaker 4: they're probably the best in the league a gap, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean they're Tom talks about all and that's that's

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Speaker 4: where Mahomes is really. That's why at least numbers aren't

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Speaker 4: as great as they usually look. But when he needs

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Speaker 4: to play, he makes play and you know all the

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Speaker 4: seven he gets you know, yeah, he gets eight all

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Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, and that's just somehow Yeah, whether it's

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Speaker 4: with his legs, I mean, you had some numbers about

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Speaker 4: his scrambles or highly efficient excuse me, those tight ends

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Speaker 4: or you know, you can move the change with them,

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Speaker 4: still even if they don't create a lot of explosives,

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Speaker 4: and now they have some speed on the outside too,

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Speaker 4: And Hopkins added the settled in and I think this

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Speaker 4: is the best their receiving corp has been since race.

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Speaker 4: You Rice got hurt. I mean that was a big

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Speaker 4: blow to them. It didn't make them lose games all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, but that was he was setting up

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Speaker 4: for huge numbers this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just looking here, the Steelers have fifty red zone

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Speaker 3: trips on offense this year. The Chiefs have sixty, which

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Speaker 3: sounds like a big difference. But I'll bet you dollars

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Speaker 3: to donuts the Steelers have more explosive plays.

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Speaker 4: Oh there's no question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question, because the Chiefs just don't do that.

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Speaker 4: No, they are.

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Speaker 3: They're still track the ball down the field. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: it's making any.

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Speaker 4: Read a little crazy that they want to still create explosives,

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Speaker 4: but they just can't. What they're doing is working, you know.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's going to be an interesting game. We're

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Speaker 3: going to talk more about this with Rob King when

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Speaker 3: we return. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: Matt and I will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: On your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and we're joined on the Justin Miller

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Speaker 3: hot Line by publish author Steeler's Voice of the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: Rob King. The door in the stone can get that

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Speaker 3: makes a great Christmas present? Last second, you can go

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Speaker 3: ahead and you know, maybe send that out to somebody

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Speaker 3: as I got you this. It's the shipping was slow

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Speaker 3: on it, but it's coming exactly right.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: We as guys, we have to do that, right, yeah right.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 3: I put in the order post office man. We have

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Speaker 3: to yeah, yeah, you have to be you have to.

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Speaker 5: Be vague, so you're not actually you know, lying a

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Speaker 5: while agoite a while.

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Speaker 3: Ago. Yeah right, yeah, define it? So kidding. Are a

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Speaker 3: big game on Wednesday, Steelers versus Chiefs. We've seen a

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Speaker 3: couple of big games here in the last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Matt and I were talking about this yesterday four Road

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Speaker 3: games in the past five weeks for the Steelers, two

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Speaker 3: of those on short work weeks, one on you know,

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Speaker 3: you played a Thursday night game, you played a Saturday game.

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Speaker 3: Uh so you lose a day of practice in that regard.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how you felt when you got

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Speaker 3: home Saturday. I was pretty tired. I felt like I'd

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Speaker 3: played a football game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a lot. And look, I think you

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Speaker 5: just see, you know, even when you're playing a division

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Speaker 5: opponent like Cleveland, right, Like, if you don't play well,

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Speaker 5: you're not gonna win, you know, and especially on the road.

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Speaker 5: Now you take you know, you throw in some health

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Speaker 5: and you're on the road and you're facing much better

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Speaker 5: competition and there are some things you don't execute, and

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Speaker 5: what happened is going to happen. You know. This road

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Speaker 5: grader of a schedule wound up being kind of just

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Speaker 5: what we feared. Right. This has been a very, very

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Speaker 5: difficult stretch. However, I think the Steelers and their fans

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Speaker 5: are gonna feel a lot better about things if you

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Speaker 5: come up with a good performance tomorrow against the Chiefs team.

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Speaker 5: You know, look, every time they come up with a challenge,

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Speaker 5: they find a way to win. You know, watch the

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Speaker 5: Houston game yesterday. You know, Houston misses an extra point,

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Speaker 5: but then but then the Chiefs take advantage of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean they're like they're like hyenas. You know, they

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Speaker 5: around and around a victory. They had to find a win,

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Speaker 5: they had to add to tear you apart to get

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Speaker 5: to a win. Somehow, some way. They've beaten good teams

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Speaker 5: and it's gonna be a big challenge. But I just

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Speaker 5: think the fact that you're home to your point, Dale

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Speaker 5: and that you're healthy, healthier than you've been, not healthy

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent, but healthier than you've been should help

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Speaker 5: make this a strong performance tomorrow. Rob.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but the more I've dug

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Speaker 4: into it, and again it's Tuesday morning here, I mean,

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Speaker 4: so it's not like a normal week. But there is

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Speaker 4: a real art to finding a way to win or

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Speaker 4: not losing a game. And I really think over Tomlin's career,

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Speaker 4: he's been one of the best in the league at

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Speaker 4: that Brady Belichick, but these guys might be taking it

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Speaker 4: to a new level. And just terms of what is

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Speaker 4: the few things I have to do in this game

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Speaker 4: to not lose it or to squeak out a win

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Speaker 4: and it's kind of an art form. It's not pretty,

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Speaker 4: but it's kind of an art form.

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Speaker 5: Well, I agree, And you know when you know, Matt,

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Speaker 5: I know that you had the statistics prior to the

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Speaker 5: year about how many one score games and you can

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Speaker 5: see this were what seven or eight and two in

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Speaker 5: one score games last year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and all the analytics people will be like, well,

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Speaker 4: you're going to return to the mean, You'll get closer

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Speaker 4: to five hundred, and I'm like, well, these guys are

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Speaker 4: wont sixteen in a row.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he had to say Mike Tomlins done that

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Speaker 5: throughout the course of his career, so that gives you

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Speaker 5: evidence that he knows how to do that. And the

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Speaker 5: fact that it's been not only sixteen in a row,

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Speaker 5: which is impressive, but sixteen out of their last what

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Speaker 5: twenty games? Twenty two games? Something? I mean, I would

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Speaker 5: have to do the math. You know. It was Chris,

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Speaker 5: I think it was Christmas Day of last year, right,

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Speaker 5: you guys were when we were taping the show yesterday

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Speaker 5: something I don't know, I can't remember Matterdale which one

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Speaker 5: of it was telling me that it was Christmas Day

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Speaker 5: of last year, the last time this year was the

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Speaker 5: last time the Chiefs lost a one score game. So

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Speaker 5: that's that's basically the course of the season and a postseason.

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Speaker 3: And that was that was to the Raiders at home.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders they lost twenty to fourteen at home, Yes,

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Speaker 3: because they turned the ball over in that game two times,

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Speaker 3: and they didn't they didn't force any turnovers themselves obviously

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Speaker 3: the calendar, you know, yeah, right, and and.

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Speaker 5: And again that's how many games did they play, like

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Speaker 5: twenty or twenty one since.

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Speaker 3: Then, more than anybody else, they have been one score games.

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Speaker 3: They had three to one score wins in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: last year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that it's just what they have done, what they

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Speaker 5: can do, and yes they've taken that as an art

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Speaker 5: form to another hype. I think the other thing that

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Speaker 5: we've seen is that, first of all, if you want

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Speaker 5: any proof of what wins games, Matt, to your point,

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Speaker 5: just look at the Chiefs. The ability to execute when

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Speaker 5: you need to yep is and and the ability to

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Speaker 5: take advantage of other team's mistakes, like you said, not

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Speaker 5: lose the game. You know, even when you were playing

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Speaker 5: a team, you know that you that you beat, even

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Speaker 5: sometimes that you beat soundly. I mean, I think we

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Speaker 5: can look back at almost every single Steelers win and

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Speaker 5: think there were four or five key plays Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 5: talks about this or five key plays that turned the game.

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Speaker 5: People don't want to think that, they don't want to

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Speaker 5: think that a bad team can win in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: But of course they can't. Nobody goes ohing seventeen except

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Speaker 5: the Browns or.

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Speaker 4: Just blow someone out snap after snap after snap and.

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Speaker 5: Ye less of last night game, right, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: it happens, right, it happens. You know, sometimes a bad

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Speaker 5: team they just get on top of them. You know,

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Speaker 5: quarterback play can be a big part of that. If

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Speaker 5: you're a team that is struggling at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 5: you don't have any good quarterback play, you can get

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Speaker 5: rolled by a good Team's pretty rare.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty rare.

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Speaker 5: It is rare. And I mean, you know, I think

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Speaker 5: we look at you know, I look at this Ravens game,

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Speaker 5: and you know, we talked about this, guys earlier in

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Speaker 5: the year after the Colts game. You know, there was

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Speaker 5: I thought there were any one of five or six

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Speaker 5: plays that we identified after the Colts game. If any

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Speaker 5: of those had gone this either's way they would have

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Speaker 5: won the game. Now it's a little different against the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's a you know, you can't say that

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Speaker 5: when you lost by two scores. You can't say, well,

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Speaker 5: if we've done this, we would have won the game.

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Speaker 5: But you would have been in the game. You know,

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Speaker 5: if Russell Wilson. Okay, so Russell Wilson fumbles, but let's

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Speaker 5: say he recovers it. Because the Ravens recover two of

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Speaker 5: their own fumbles, you know, then you know, you start

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Speaker 5: to think about, okay, what if you know, there's a

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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson. You know, losing that fumble is at least

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Speaker 5: a ten points win. At least, you know, them getting

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Speaker 5: a pick six against instead of you, there's another seven points.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, and then you're the cumultive of

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Speaker 5: effect of you don't keep a drive going to the

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Speaker 5: defense goes out there. And that's another thing that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 5: It's just been disjointed, non complimentary football. We talked about

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Speaker 5: this yesterday. Guys. You know, you have seven three and

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Speaker 5: outs over the last two games, you've only forced one. Well,

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Speaker 5: that's not going to add up to winning football. It's

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Speaker 5: just not And so laid in the game against Philadelphia

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Speaker 5: where five of those three and now it's occurred. You

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Speaker 5: know what's happening. Your defense is gonna tired. It's been

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Speaker 5: on the field too long, you know. But then again there,

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Speaker 5: how about coming up with some sort of stop, maybe

645
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Speaker 5: trip somebody up on third and seven and you know

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Speaker 5: that now they have to punt it away and and

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Speaker 5: now you go on a drive and that defense gets rested.

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Speaker 5: And now that last drive for Philadelphia maybe doesn't happen.

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Speaker 5: But again there's more maybe's over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: And the better the competition, the more apt you are

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Speaker 5: to lose a game in which you don't play complimentary

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Speaker 5: football and don't take advantage of those four or five

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Speaker 5: moments in every game, just like we've seen this Deelers

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Speaker 5: due to other opponents. But these are you know, we're

655
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 5: we're getting a preview of what you can't do to

656
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: be able to win and beat some of the top

657
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 5: teams in the NFL, because they're going to get a

658
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 5: third top team in a row here coming up tomorrow.

659
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: I know you're not implying like if Wilson doesn't turn

660
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: the ball over twice, they would have been better at

661
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: tackling Derrick Henry, you know, like they still had problems,

662
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: of course, but that's.

663
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Speaker 3: One of the things that's interesting.

664
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Speaker 4: Adventure a little different though, you know, right.

665
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: Even though they had the trouble with Derrick Henry and

666
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: stopping to run, that game was seventeen seventeen with five

667
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: minutes left in a third quarter, despite everything that happened

668
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: right right right point, Yeah, like they were, yeah, they were.

669
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: They weren't tackling Derrick Henry, but it was seventeen to seventeen.

670
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean the would drop forty on you right

671
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: right right right, a long way to put points. And

672
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: so they were to your point, they were right in

673
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: that football game.

674
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 5: Well, same thing with the Eagles. You know, Naji who

675
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: never fumbles, you know, had that snap hit him and

676
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: he just, you know, that that pitch and he's just

677
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: looking up right like for the first time in his career,

678
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 5: he picks that moment to look up. And now does

679
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 5: that mean they win the game? No, But does it

680
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: mean they go in and score a touchdown or make

681
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 5: it seventeen thirteen possessed the ball for another three or

682
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 5: four minutes so that your defense is over there and

683
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 5: can get a rest, and maybe they do come up

684
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: with a tackle on the next drive. I mean, there's

685
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 5: a lot of things you don't know.

686
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: Of course. I mean, put your head's above water longer.

687
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: You're not drowning as early.

688
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 5: You know right that, that's exactly And I'm telling you,

689
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: you know, just like we've seen the Steelers do when

690
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 5: a good team sniffs it, man, you are in trouble. Yeah,

691
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: and now again, all.

692
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: Three of these opponents will bury you if you like that.

693
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: You know that's exactly right, just like the Steelers will

694
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 5: do the same to you if they get up on

695
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: you and they get you to make those mistakes. You

696
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: know the thing, And I don't want to completely dismiss

697
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: the fact that I would have liked to have seen

698
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: one or two things. You know, I'd like to have

699
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 5: seen you get down in the game and you go

700
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: on a nice long answering drive that that quells things

701
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 5: a little bit, you know what I mean. Okay, so

702
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 5: now drops the drops the pitch. Okay, fine, Now you

703
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: go on a long drive to answer their long thirteen

704
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: play drive. And now your defense comes out and makes

705
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: the stop, and now you've got the ball with a

706
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: chance to tie it. And six minutes left in the

707
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 5: fourth quarter. You know, there there are things like that

708
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 5: that haven't happened either. So I don't want to completely

709
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: say that it's been all hey, you know, the brakes

710
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: weren't with us or we didn't make you know, there's

711
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 5: a little bit of I wish, I wish some other

712
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 5: things could have happened. Now let's go back to like.

713
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: Rob it wouldn't have broke my heart if he fumbles

714
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: at the four that they don't allow a ninety six

715
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: yard drive.

716
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right, part of that complimentary football.

717
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, exactly, I think that's what we're getting out now.

718
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: They're good too, They're gonna make their plays. I would

719
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 5: have liked to have seen this year. There's over the

720
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: last couple of games. Make a player too, even if

721
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: you lose those games because you made more mistakes. Now

722
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: that han't been said. I don't think we can underscore

723
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: the lack the effect of the lack of Deshaun Elliott.

724
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: You know, your surest tackler, does he make a tackle

725
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: somewhere in that Eagles game that stops at somebody short

726
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 5: on a third nun I mean, I just have to

727
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 5: think he does. But Larry Ogan drove me make a

728
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: big difference, especially I think against Baltimore in the one game. Yes,

729
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: I think he does Dante Jackson on the outside. He's

730
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 5: gonna make a big difference. Now you're missing Joey Porter Jr.

731
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: But you're getting three starters back, and then on offense,

732
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 5: you're getting pickings back. And I just you know, you

733
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: look at the numbers, and again you have to be

734
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 5: careful with numbers. Out for a couple of games doesn't

735
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 5: necessarily mean a trend, but and you know, the level

736
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 5: of competition's clearly gone up. I mean, you're not playing

737
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: the Bengals defense. The last couple of weeks. You're playing

738
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 5: the Eagles, and you're playing a much improved Ravens defense.

739
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 5: And this week you're gonna be playing the Chiefs. I'm

740
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 5: not about to say they're gonna run right out there

741
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: and score two hundred and run. You know, Russell Wilson's

742
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: gonna pass for two hundred eighty yards again, and they're

743
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: gonna score forty points because George Pickens is back, but

744
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: he makes a huge difference. So all those guys coming

745
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: back I think makes this an especially interesting game and

746
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: the kind of game you go out and play a

747
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: good game, you can say, Okay, that's great, We're ready

748
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 5: for the you know, we're we still have the Bengals

749
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 5: coming up. But we feel pretty darn good about our

750
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: game going in because you know, we've played with the

751
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: biggest of the big boys, and we did it with

752
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 5: most of our guys being healthy. You don't have to

753
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: look at that health thing. You know, you can look

754
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 5: back at that health thing and say, hey, that was

755
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 5: a that was definitely a huge contributing factor. Rob.

756
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: We do that Monday show with Wolf and he often,

757
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: as a former player, references do your one eleventh, you know,

758
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: And I thought your Elliott comment really resonated with me

759
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 4: with that because I was having a conversation with tom

760
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 4: Auferman last night that let's say Elliott plays the last

761
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: two games and everyone is injuries. But if the Steelers

762
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: as a team missed two fewer tackles in each of

763
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: those games because he's on the field, that's a lot.

764
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 4: I mean, like that might be a first down, that

765
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: might be three minutes of time of possession. You know,

766
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: I mean like it's a lot.

767
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, I mean, I I you know, you

768
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 5: can't see me because run radio. But I'm like shaking

769
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 5: my head. I just, you know, how do we talked

770
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 5: about this guy back in camp? And you know I

771
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: expressed my views then and I'm sure you guys probably

772
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 5: felt similarly that I really liked the signing. I thought

773
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: it was the most underrated move they made in the offseason,

774
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 5: which is like, oh, yeah, they signed to Shawn Elliott.

775
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 5: You know, he's a he's just a you know, in

776
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 5: in Baltimore. He was just a good, solid football player.

777
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: And I wondered, because of that, you know, because of

778
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 5: that glue element, you know, would he be you know

779
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 5: what Ryan Clark was the Troy Polamala, could he be

780
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: that to Fitzpatrick? And again, different players different you know,

781
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 5: Ryan Clark's a big, big man. Troy pola is a

782
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 5: you know, an all time great, first ballot Hall of Famer.

783
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 5: I understand that, I get it, but just a similar effect.

784
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: Well it's been that and more. I mean, he's just

785
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: been a he's a really really good player who just

786
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: I think his I think what he does best is

787
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 5: has shown here. You know, environment scheme, whatever it is,

788
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 5: maybe him maturing you know even more as a player.

789
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 5: I don't know what it is. But he has been fantastic,

790
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he makes it. He makes a

791
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 5: big difference on this team. And again I have to

792
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 5: remind people that, you know, look, everyone's been talking about

793
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: this second wide receiver thing, but you don't have to

794
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 5: take the word of the media. Just look at the

795
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 5: look at the fact that the Steelers were out actively

796
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: trying to acquire Brandon Iyuk and others. They knew this

797
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 5: could be an issue. With Pickens being gone, it has

798
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: been an issue. Now hopefully he's back, and I think

799
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: that other players have matured over the course of the

800
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 5: year and I think it's I think they could have

801
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 5: a really interesting passing game, but Pickens does need to

802
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: be healthy for that.

803
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know of you know, looking at

804
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: this glass half full. Over the last couple of weeks here,

805
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: you've kind of discovered that, hey, if if we get

806
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: into crucial situations, we can throw Calvin Austin the football.

807
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be, you know, go to George

808
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: Pickens in some of those situations. A couple you can

809
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 3: you can throw at the pat fire move to convert

810
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: that first down. It doesn't have to go to George Pickens.

811
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be you know, fourteen targets to

812
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: George Pickens and everybody else gets five, you know, split up.

813
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: So I do believe that, you know, maybe this has

814
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: caused some short term misery not having Pickens out there,

815
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: but I think in the you know, you get into

816
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: a playoff game and it's third and seven, you're not

817
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: just gonna wait, let's draw something up for Georgia. We

818
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: gott to force the ball even though it's double coverage. No,

819
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: we could throw at the Calvin Austin if he's got

820
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: single coverage here even tomorrow.

821
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, yah, yeah, yeah.

822
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 5: I think that what we've seen a little bit, I

823
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 5: think I think is what we hope to see, which

824
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: is that you've got a really good offensive coordinator. You've

825
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: got a veteran quarterback who himself is on the way

826
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame, who knows how to you know,

827
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: read defenses, has the confidence to make throws, distribute the

828
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: ball properly. He's seen it, he's been there, he's done that.

829
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 5: You're not going to confuse him too often. And then

830
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: you have a bread of good targets, good players. So

831
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 5: do you have that, you know, Number two t Higgins

832
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 5: receive no, you don't, but do you have players that

833
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 5: you know somewhere down the line, as you start to

834
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 5: match up with their defensive players, you're going to find

835
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: a mismatch, which is why I think we have seen

836
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: Pat Firemouth have big moments. We've seen Calvin Austin have

837
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: big moments. We have seen Mike Williams on some go

838
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 5: routes be able to do some things. We've seen Darnell

839
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: Washington be a bigger part of the passing game. Eventually,

840
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: you know you're going to be able to with that

841
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 5: combination of Arthur Smith, Russell Wilson and the players you have,

842
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: find some matchup that is favorable for you and exploit that.

843
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's just maybe maybe it's just the scheme

844
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 5: is enough that the distribution of all to a variety

845
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 5: of receivers is going to be enough to keep the

846
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 5: other team off balance and to keep your passing game going.

847
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: And I think this year has have those elements to

848
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 5: be able to be successful. But again, when you take

849
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: George Pickens out of the equation, we've kind of seen

850
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 5: how that looks over the last few weeks.

851
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: Rob it's great that they're getting some defensive starters back

852
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: and that was much needed. But Porter, you know, I mean,

853
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: what's the what's the loss of Joey Porter Junior mean

854
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 4: to you for this game? Or the absence?

855
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, you know, uh for sure,

856
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 5: no doubt about it. You know you're gonna have to

857
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: find ways to get around that, and you're gonna have

858
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 5: to find ways to get around that against you know,

859
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 5: the best quarterback in the NFL and a guy putting

860
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 5: up a strong argument for the best quarterback ever. Hate

861
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 5: that conversation, although it's fun. Uh, but he's certainly you know,

862
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: this generation, he's I don't I don't see how you

863
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 5: can say he's anything but the best. You know, So

864
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: it's it's you know your he's your top cover guy,

865
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 5: no question. And you know it's interesting. You're looking at

866
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 5: the Chiefs and they're they're finding ways to get by,

867
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 5: and they get Rice injured, and they get some other things,

868
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 5: and then you're like, oh my gosh, Hollywood Brown, Wait

869
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 5: wait a minute, Uh, how's he playing for them? You know?

870
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: He he comes in next week. And that's a guy

871
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 5: who is you know, you talk about a receiving core.

872
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: Now he's he's very close to being you know that

873
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 5: number one type of receiver.

874
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about that.

875
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 4: I do think this is past.

876
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good player, but he's not He's

877
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: not a true number one.

878
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 5: But but he is a he is a blow the

879
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: top off. I mean here, there are things that he

880
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 5: can do that are better. And I'm not calling him

881
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 5: a I'm not calling him a one. You know, you

882
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: know A one. Yeah, I mean I think they're they're more.

883
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 5: I think I think let me rephrase that, So, I

884
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 5: think he would be I think at this stage of

885
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 5: his career where DeAndre Hopkins is, I think he would

886
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 5: be their best receiver. Let me put it that way.

887
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 5: That's what I think. But again, it's the thing that

888
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 5: makes them difficult is it's close. I mean, if you

889
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 5: have him and you have Worthy who for three to two,

890
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 5: you know.

891
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: He's stepping up lately to Wheer.

892
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 5: Well, that's what you hope for out of a rookie

893
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 5: receiver getting better over the course of the season. And

894
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 5: now you have DeAndre Hopkins and that's your three. How

895
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 5: do you spread out the resources to cover those guys? So,

896
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 5: I mean I think that they I think that it's

897
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 5: a it's a talented group it doesn't have that Jamar

898
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: Chase doesn't have a George Pickens. But what it does

899
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 5: have is three good solid receivers. And now you're out,

900
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 5: you know, one of your not one of you, you're

901
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: out your top cover corner who can hopefully help you

902
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 5: maybe lock down one side of the field. I don't

903
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 5: know whether he would travel in a game like this.

904
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 5: I presume you would just stay on one side of

905
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 5: the field because there isn't that. Yeah, there isn't that

906
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: sort of but we don't know because he's not going

907
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 5: to be out there. So it's a it's a loss

908
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 5: for sure. And then again, you know, you talk about

909
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: those three receivers. Okay, so they're all good, solid receivers.

910
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 5: I think they're receivers. Those three guys are receivers that

911
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 5: any team would be happy to have and would be

912
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 5: part of their top three man rotation any one of them,

913
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: I think pretty much in any team in the league.

914
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 5: And then you have Kelsey and then you have Noah

915
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 5: Gray at the tight end position. You know, so there

916
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 5: are and I mean a guy like Kareem Hunt coming

917
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: out of the backfield. He's he's you know, he's a

918
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: decent receiver coming out of the back, and they have

919
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: a lot of weapons. You know, we talked about the

920
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 5: Steelers having a breadth of weapons. Well, the Chiefs breadth

921
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 5: of weapons have a longer pedigree of you know, especially

922
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 5: when you talk about guys like Hopkins and like Kelsey

923
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 5: of being elite players at their position. I don't think,

924
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 5: you know, Hopkins isn't a leite anymore, but but you

925
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: know he's got the memory of being a league you know.

926
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 5: So there it's without Joey Porter. It makes for a

927
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: big challenge for the Steelers secondary, and I think it

928
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 5: makes it especially important for you know, you think of

929
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 5: playing Mahomes and the defense has to rise up. Well,

930
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 5: I think the offense has to rise up in this game.

931
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 5: You have to find a way to be able to

932
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 5: sustain drives, keep Patrick Mahomes on the sideline. But again,

933
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 5: you're going against an extremely formidable defense. That's not going

934
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 5: to be easy. But you know what, that's a task

935
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 5: in hand. You're you're talking about elite teams. You're talking

936
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 5: about getting ready for the playoffs when you'll face elite teams.

937
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 5: This is what you have to do.

938
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 4: Yep.

939
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: Our guest has been Rob King Kinger Merry Christmas. We'll

940
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: see you tomorrow down at the stadium. But enjoy your

941
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: Christmas Eve. You need to say my friends were in

942
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 3: the Stone.

943
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: You gotta get it.

944
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: You can get that Amazon, Amazon, great book.

945
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: I appreciate the pitch. Happy Holidays, Mary, Christmas guys.

946
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: Our guest has been rob king the Steelers play by

947
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: a play announcer with the voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers

948
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: and published author.

949
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

950
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

951
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll

952
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: be back with more right after this.

953
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: At least.

954
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

955
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black.

956
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: And Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

957
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

958
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: Williamson and Well Week sixteen now in the books. After

959
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: the green Bay Packers just destroyed the New Orleans Saints.

960
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah last night, thirty four to nothing. It really could

961
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: have been one hundred to nothing if Green Bay wanted

962
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: it to be.

963
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be honest, Like, there's this one of the

964
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: things you're taught immediately as a scout, Like I remember

965
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 4: the first game I ever went to. Sitting in the

966
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 4: press box scouting. I was sitting next this older scout

967
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: and he's like, you're new runner, right, And I'm like yeah.

968
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: He's like, don't ever leave a game early. He's like,

969
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 4: that's yeah, that's this young generation. They'll leave games early.

970
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 4: I could have left this game at the first quarter.

971
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: I mean, like rarely, I'll watch every Monday night to

972
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: the very end, every Sunday night, or I quit.

973
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: I mean I had it up on my last strongly

974
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: considered it.

975
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: You know, I'm like, yeah, maybe I'll watch a succession

976
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: or something. I mean, this is not close to being competitive.

977
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: Couldn't even write a story of how they could come

978
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: back and you know make Yeah, I mean no chance.

979
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean you're playing all your backups in and Willis

980
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: and Jacobs.

981
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: As a scowl. Right. You may want to watch that

982
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: because you want to see what the saying you're seeing.

983
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: We're seeing what you know, that guy kind.

984
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: Of did some nice string running back or those guys.

985
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: But beyond that, right, there was no reason to watch

986
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: that disaster.

987
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: The first shutout of the year. Yeah, I mean that

988
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: was shocked to hear that. But AD's up.

989
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's that's it's how hard it is to

990
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: play defense in league right now. That was the kind

991
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: of where I was going out of the season.

992
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: I think it was yesterday was a whirlwind, but a

993
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 4: couple outlets. I definitely mentioned that defense. There's no seventy seelers.

994
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: There's no such thing as a shutdown defense, eighty.

995
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: Five bears where you're happy to get ten points, you

996
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 4: know what I mean, that's how those defenses were, like are.

997
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: Just set up against you. It's so much I mean,

998
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: this night and days not even really the same game anymore,

999
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: no as it was in nineteen seventy eight, seventy seven

1000
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: or seventy six.

1001
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: It's funny, like my buddies and I were just they

1002
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 4: were chatting about the Penguins. I guess Sid Crosby reached

1003
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 4: Lemieu's assist number, right, but it's like four hundred games less,

1004
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 4: you know, and you know Lemuse my all time favorite.

1005
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 4: But they were talking about it, like how much that

1006
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: game's changed. Like if you go watch like Gretzky highlights

1007
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: or Bossy highlights, there's this much net to shoot at.

1008
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: You know, the pads are so much different. I mean,

1009
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: it's almost like defense nowadays, where the game has just

1010
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 4: changed so much that with fantasy football and betting and

1011
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: the way the game's growing, they don't want six to

1012
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: nine games. And even if the offensive lines aren't as

1013
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 4: talented as defensive lines, they're gonna do everything possible that

1014
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: there's points, you know what I mean, where the hockey's

1015
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: gone the other way, you know. But anyway, to my point,

1016
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: what we've been talking about a lot this last twenty

1017
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: four hours or so is because there's no shutdown defenses.

1018
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: If you're on the field a lot on defense, you're

1019
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: gonna get exposed every one of these thirty two, you know,

1020
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 4: not just a stealer.

1021
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: That's why there's a greater emphasis on turnovers. You're not

1022
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: going to shut teams down in today's NFL, and to

1023
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: expect that, and I see that a lot this defense stinks.

1024
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: They can't stop anybody. Look around the league. There's like

1025
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: if you look at the top defenses in the league

1026
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 3: right now, Like right now.

1027
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: I think the Eagles are playing the best of any defense. Yeah,

1028
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: but even like the Vikings are the top. But they've

1029
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: kind of they've had some a lot of good moments,

1030
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: more good than bad.

1031
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: But there used to be between every year eight to

1032
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: ten teams allowing less than three hundred yards per game.

1033
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: This year there's one, really one, and the Eagles are

1034
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: allowing two hundred and eighty one point seven yards per game.

1035
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: I guarantee you if I went back ten years in

1036
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: the NFL, there would be at least six or seven

1037
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 3: teams holding teams under three hundred yards and to eighty

1038
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 3: one point seven wouldn't be anywhere close to being the lead.

1039
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: I can do that and not gonna look at right now.

1040
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: I'll go back to twenty fourteen.

1041
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: And another thing that's changed too is every team has

1042
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: a Justin Tucker and their prime now too. You know,

1043
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 4: like I mean, there's so much fewer missed field goals

1044
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: and they're making them from all over, which resultant point.

1045
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 4: It's not like points are through the roof. It's not

1046
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 4: like the COVID year or anything. But you're not going

1047
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 4: to shut teams down.

1048
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: At yeah point twenty fourteen, the leader was the Seattle Seahawks,

1049
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: the legion to boom to sixty one point seven. That's

1050
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. If I go back to two thousand and

1051
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: four and look at the top defense, well here we

1052
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: got one two three four, five five teams that held

1053
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: teams under under three three hundred yards, led by the

1054
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: Steelers at two fifty eight point four.

1055
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: Okay, but that was a little more common. Even the

1056
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: difference two.

1057
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: Thousand and four. What happened between two thousand and four

1058
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: and twenty fourteen, Smashing people over the middle.

1059
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 4: Of the field became illegal. Oh yeah, no doubt you can't.

1060
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: You can't just destroy a receiver going over the middle.

1061
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 3: So they go over the middle now with complete knowledge that, well,

1062
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: I might get a big hit. I might get a

1063
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: big hit, but it's probably going to get a penalty.

1064
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 4: It's not Jack Tatum.

1065
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: Nobody's going to try to do that to me here,

1066
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: because that's back in those days when a ball thrown

1067
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: over the middle. Yeah, you knew you were going to

1068
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: take a big hit. Yeah, Now that doesn't happen.

1069
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks one thousand times better too. I mean, you listen

1070
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: to any broadcasts, even like with Akman or any of

1071
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: those guys. They respect it, but they're jealous, you know. Yeah,

1072
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: let alone the Branshaw years. Yeah, I mean right, I.

1073
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: Mean you could horse collar tackle was legal. Yeah, there

1074
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: was all, I mean, all kinds of stuff that is

1075
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: they have phased out of the game now.

1076
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: To where playing defense is just harder than that. It's

1077
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: it's so much harder.

1078
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 3: But I also think they have an athletic advantage that yeah,

1079
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: there there's so many defensive.

1080
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: Athletes coming into the league.

1081
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Speaker 3: I mean, even just look at some of the hip

1082
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: drop tackles now illegal. You can't do that anymore. That

1083
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: was a staple back in those days. But I'm not

1084
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: implying that the Steeler defense has been great the last

1085
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: two weeks. But you have to can't be on the

1086
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: field that long. You also have to look at things

1087
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 3: in context, and you know, it's it's just not it's

1088
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 3: not easy to play defense now. It just isn't and

1089
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: you don't want to play too much of it. But

1090
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: the greatest, the biggest emphasis is on should be and

1091
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: it should be Saxon turnovers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Saxon turnovers

1092
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: are huge and they do get those.

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Speaker 4: They do get those, and it's been a consistent thing

1094
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 4: over years. Yeah, year's time. They have playmakers, they have

1095
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: team speed, they have pass rushers. That's the best way

1096
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 4: to start.

1097
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we'll see if that's the best way to

1098
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 3: start against the Kansas City Chiefs. Steelers.

1099
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Speaker 4: Will you're on the field for thirty five minutes on

1100
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: the Christmas Day though, not going to be good.

1101
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, not going to lead to good threes,

1102
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 3: going to figure you out. Absolutely. Looking at the playoff

1103
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: race here real quick. In the AFC, all but ten

1104
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: teams have been eliminated. As we mentioned, five playoff spots

1105
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: have been claimed Kansas City, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Houston, and Baltimore.

1106
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Speaker 3: Two spots still up for grabs up being the Chargers

1107
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 3: and Broncos. Either one of those teams would clinch themselves

1108
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 3: with a win this week in any the in either

1109
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: of their final tie, and you're in. It doesn't matter

1110
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Speaker 3: what anybody else does. If you get a win or

1111
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: a tie in your final two games.

1112
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Speaker 5: You are in.

1113
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Speaker 3: For the Chargers in Broncos, for the Chargers and Broncos.

1114
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Speaker 3: Over in the NFC, now, six of the playoff spots

1115
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: have been clinched. You've got the Washington Commanders at ten

1116
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: and five in the seventh spot, Tampa Bay and Seattle

1117
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: the two teams chasing them. Everybody else in the NFC

1118
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: has been eliminated. They're both too.

1119
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Speaker 4: You said six spots or clinched, Yes, Well, technically, actually

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Speaker 4: there's there's four spots clinched because the the West and

1121
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 4: the South have still but you have Atlanta leading the

1122
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: South now at eight and seven, we know there's going

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00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 4: to be a division winner. Yeah, and then we know

1124
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: the other team.

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Speaker 3: If Atlanta wins out, they win the division, doesn't It

1126
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Speaker 3: doesn't matter what Tampa Bay does because they have the

1127
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: tiebreaker over Tampa. Tampa needs a loss by the Falcons

1128
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Speaker 3: and they need to win out.

1129
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Speaker 4: Yes, to get to win the divisions.

1130
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Speaker 3: They can still get in if Washington loses its final

1131
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: two games.

1132
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Speaker 4: Gotcha, But we don't know six guaranteed teams that are going.

1133
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Speaker 3: Now in the in the NFC, in the in the

1134
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 3: NFC West, Seattle is eight and seven, a game behind

1135
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: the Rams at nine and six. They played and the

1136
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: play week final week. So Seattle needs to win this week.

1137
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Speaker 3: They don't necessarily need the Rams to lose, but they

1138
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: need to win because they'll play each other in the

1139
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: final week of the season and therefore could pull into

1140
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: a tie. And then I don't know how the tie

1141
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: breakers work with out if you know the answer to this,

1142
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: but Seattle loses this week, they out the win the division. Yeah, yeah, Okay,

1143
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Speaker 3: I would imagine, yeah, yeah, okay. So that's where we stand,

1144
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: play for absolutely, but let's get to a that's going

1145
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Speaker 3: to do it for our number one of the drive

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Speaker 3: here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt Nauie Beck with

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Speaker 3: our number two right after this