1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,679 Speaker 1: Levels to. 2 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 2: This is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, what's going on? Is s your Girl? Tarrika 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Foster Brasby. What's up y'all? 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: Is Sugarirl Cheryl swoops And this is the levels to 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: this podcast, the show where we share that it's levels 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: to the shit that women go through. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: We have such a fun and interesting show for you. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Today because I feel like some people listening might be 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: guilty of some of the sheet that we're finna talk 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: about in the show today. 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Don't call them out already since. 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: From the beginning. But before we get there, let's just 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 2: kind of catch up because it's been a minute. We're 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: recording this show after Easter, So happy Easter to all 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: of those who celebrate. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: What did you do? Did you do any did you 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: go to church? Did you do anything special? On Easter? Cheryl? 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: I traveled. I was in Portland, Oregon. I spoke at 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: this playmaker summit, and. 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I just I traveled. 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: But I got home early enough to spend time with 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: the hobby and the dogs. And so I saw you 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: posted something was it last week when you were lying 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: in bed right, and you said, You're all we're always 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: posting about like the glam side of what we do, right, 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: the traveling, the party is that, but we never really 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: post about the not so glam side, meaning just being 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Hella tired. 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: And needing sleep and rest. 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: So when you posted that, I so was in that 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: bed with you in that moment. Yes, when I got 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: home for Easter, I was tired. I went, I kissed 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: my husband, said hey to my dogs, got in my bed, 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: and had the best sleep that I've ever had. Maybe 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: it's because I'm so tired and don't realize how much 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: sleep I need. So anyway, my Easter was amazing. 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: How about your I sell that I'm tired now to 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: be honest, but it is what it is, right, like 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: we just kind of keep moving. So I took this 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: weekend to try to not do anything right, which is 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: something that I never get a chance to do, Like 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: I never have a weekend to just. 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: Not do nothing. 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: So this past weekend I took a moment to basically 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: eliminate myself from everything and everyone and just enjoy a 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: hobby and a sport and something that folks. 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Probably don't know that I love. And this was WrestleMania weekend. 51 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: So I was fully invested in WrestleMania the entire weekend. 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Like I know, there was playoff basketball that was going on. 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: I did not care. 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: Saturday, I obviously had to watch my Pistons because duh, 55 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: but duh. I was invested. I was invested in WrestleMania 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: all weekend. So I had a great time. Do you 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: know It's crazy. I've never been a wrestling fan per se, 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: but back in the day, I used to watch it. 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: I was a big Junkyard dog fan, right, Yeah, But 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you my son Jordan, that was his 61 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: thing every Christmas. He wanted something that had to do 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: with wrestling. I got him the you know, the little 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: the big ring and the different wrestlers, and I remember 64 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: taking him to I guess it was WrestleMania, I don't know, 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: taking him to a big wrestling match way back in 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: the day when he was younger and girl, I was. 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Like the coolest, best mom ever ever. 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, ever, if you ever feel like you want 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: to just relive that, I'm willing to be Jordan. 70 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm willing to be Jordan, like, yeah. 71 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm not. I haven't. I haven't really thought 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: about that, so like I used to be, like I don't. 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: I can't even tell you when I first started watching wrestling, 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: because it was something that was always it was like 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: baseball in my house. It was like wrestling baseball were 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: the two things that were always on. And like my parents, 77 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, I was raised by my great grandparents. They 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: were watching like Dick the Bruiser, Dusty Rows the Crusher, 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: like Undertaker is my favorite wrestler ever of all time. 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Fair Now, I hated Rick Flair because my dad was 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: a big Riff Flair. But I tell you all, Rick Flair, 82 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: I hated it. Rick Sir. 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: My dad used to just walk around the house and 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: just be like whoa, like just randomly. 85 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: I was like, come on, shut up, like cut it out. 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Like I hated it. I hated it. 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: But I had took some time away from wrestling though, 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: Like I want to say, it was around the time 89 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: that the ruthless Aggression era started. 90 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: That was like when John Sena got real popular, and 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: like it just it wasn't fueling me. 92 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: I was like I was in college at the times, 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: I was like heavy into trying to get my grades right. 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: I was a student athlete at the time. I was 95 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: like heavy into boys. I wasn't thinking about no wrestling. 96 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: I was thinking about who these wombs was that was 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: gonna be calling. 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: Me all day knows. 99 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 3: So everything hot, it was a little I was a 100 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: hot girl. 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: I was a hog girl. So I just didn't have 102 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: time to keep up like I used to. 103 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: And then around the time my nephews came along, My 104 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: nephew came along, like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. That was 105 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: like when Roman Reigns was like at the top of 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: his game, like he still is in his prime. 107 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: But like Roman was like that dude. 108 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: So I still had to follow Roman and Slasha Banks 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: and all like I have to follow for my nieces 110 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 3: and nephews, you know what I mean. But I still 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 3: wasn't like watching every show. It was just I'm keeping 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 3: up because they remind me of soul propers, right, Like, 113 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: no matter how long you ain't watched The Young Restless, 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: no matter what you put it back on you like, girl, 115 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: I know exactly what's happening. 116 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: That's how it was for me. 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: And then I want to say, over the last like 118 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: maybe seven months when Raw Now went to Netflix, there 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: was so much hype and build up around it and 120 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 3: the bloodline storyline and all this stuff that my frat 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: brother was on Twitter and was like, cis. 122 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: You really gotta like invest back into it again? Like 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: it is so good right now. He was like, it's 124 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: like Attitude era good. This was like nineties when like 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: DX was doing this thing. I'm sure this is when 126 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Jordan was probably like, yeah, this is my. 127 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: Probably yeaheah, Like this was when it was like like 128 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: the Attitude era was stone Cold, Steve Boston the Rock 129 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 3: like it was crazy. 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 131 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna give it. 132 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back into it. I'm gonna give a 133 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: full week. I'm gonna watch Wrong Monday, I'm gonna watch 134 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: NXT on Tuesday, Smack Donald Friday. I'm gonna give it 135 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: a week and see like if I can get my 136 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: my wrestling fire back. 137 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: So question for you. 138 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: John Cena is a new age wrestler, right or is 139 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: he considered old? 140 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: No? 141 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: John Cena is like I mean, for us, he's like 142 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: an older wrestler now, but he's not older like my childhood. 143 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: OHD Like he came around I was in college, so 144 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: but he's still been wrestling for like twenty years, Like 145 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: he's still been around a while, I said, because Jordan 146 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: used to just run around the house in his whole 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: you can't see me and see me. 148 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: And I remember asking him like what are you doing? 149 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: He just run around and be like mama, mama, that 150 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: is so sarious. 151 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? 152 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: So finally and I realized where he got it from? 153 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Girl? 154 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: And how about one day he did it to me 155 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: and I snatched him up and I said, yeah, I 156 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: can't see you see you? 157 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: That is so funny. Oh my god, that is so funny. 158 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: Well you're like into it like that, and you know 159 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: what what's gonna be great is you and our producer Grace. 160 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Just go have the best time ever. 161 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: I told her she needs to let me be her manager, 162 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: like I'm trying to be the one on the sideline, 163 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: like hyping everybody up, pulling out chairs on the low key, 164 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: low key, hitting people with the belt. 165 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. I won't. I will be. 166 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Front and center when Grace gets in that ring. Let's go, 167 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 2: I'm let's tell you that. Just give me five minutes 168 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: to work on my on my manager name, and it's 169 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's about to be crazy out here. 170 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: But I need to know what Grace's wrestling name is 171 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna be. 172 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: It can't be Grace, I know. Oh my god, your 173 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: manager name her wrestling name, and I need her intro music. 174 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: I need her music. 175 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: It's got to be saying I'm there. I can't wait. 176 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: It should be some country because she lives in Nashville. 177 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: It's gotta be country, some country ship. 178 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Grace, we are just creating a whole 179 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: character for you. 180 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's gonna be so much fun. Can't wait. 181 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it was a great weekend. But it 182 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: wasn't a great weekend for everybody. Now, I was about 183 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: to say speaking of wrestling. I know, speaking of wrestling, 184 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't. It wasn't a great week end for everybody 185 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: because somebody, so I Lody, forgot that they are not 186 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: a wrestler, that they are actually a basketball player. And 187 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking about DeMar de Rosan. I don't think he 188 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: forgot Demartin de Rosan out here. Matter of fact, that 189 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: wasn't even wrestling, that was boxing. Yeah, I ain't mad 190 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: at enough I mean, it's a trip. But on today's episode, 191 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: we're about to get into a conversation about what happens 192 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: when people kind of cross the line that they probably 193 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: shouldn't cross, and what happens when you fa fo On that. 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: Note, let's go ahead and take this to the next level. 195 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: All right, So Demart de Rosan for those who may 196 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: not know who Demarta Rosen is, He's an NBA player. 197 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: Plays for the Sacramento Kings, used to play for the Bulls, 198 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: used play for the Raptors, but anyway, plays for the 199 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: Kings now and on. For Friday, April nineteenth, you know, 200 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: Tomorrow was hungry. He decided to go a get something 201 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: to eat. 202 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: He went out, you know when I would have I 203 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: don't know, a female. I don't I'm not assuming, but 204 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: there was a female with him, I'm guessing. And he 205 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: was at a sushi restaurant in Calabasas and he was 206 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: mad in his business and according to the reports, a 207 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: man walked up to him. And the man walked up 208 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: to him and put like his cell phone with a 209 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: bright light. 210 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's start according to reports. 211 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's according to the video where you can 212 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: see the video in it. Yes, you can see him 213 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: putting the phone up to his face, and DeMar DeRozan 214 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: basically hits the phone out of his face because I 215 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: mean it was very clearly unexpected, and you can tell 216 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: that he don't know the man, but he puts the 217 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: phone in his face, he hits the phone out of 218 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: his face. And then the dude now who gets up, 219 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: is like demanding for his phone to be back, and 220 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: now him and Damar like in this scuffle, and DeMar 221 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: is like getting at him for real, for real. 222 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 3: And then there's this woman who in like this gray sweatsuit. 223 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: She's like telling Tomorrow like he's not worth it, trying 224 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: to get in between him, trying to back him up, 225 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: and she's just like, he's not worth it, He's not 226 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: worth it, don't do it, it's not worth it. When 227 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: she's right, and then the dude, you know, after getting 228 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: his ass whoop, finally gets up, DeMar throws the phone, 229 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: and then Damar backs into like this other part of 230 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: the restaurant. But yeah, basically, like witnesses segcaus this part 231 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: isn't on the video, but the witnesses say that the 232 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: man who had on shorts got into an ambulance because 233 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: apparently he has sustained some injuries from the fight. 234 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: They had called the police because there was glass and 235 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: cutlery and shit that was flying around, and so we 236 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: don't know what happened after Deamorrow backed into the thing, 237 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: because that's not quite on the video. But this is 238 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: what I mean by FAFO, and if you are unfamiliar 239 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: with fafoh, it simply means fuck around and find out, 240 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: because why are you walking up on people shoving your 241 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: phone in their face? 242 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: Period? 243 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: Like this has nothing to do with a celebrity Tomorrow anybody, 244 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: Like I don't care who you are, Like, what gives 245 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: you the right to invade anybody's personal space like that? 246 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: And I don't care if they are out in public. 247 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: But let me say one thing before we really dive 248 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: into this sis. 249 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: Whoever the female is with Tomorrow. 250 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: She looked like she got some hands because she got 251 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: in between Tomorrow and this dude and was like, listen, 252 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: what we not gonna do is space And so she 253 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: holding damarrow back like no, he ain't worth it one 254 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: hundred percent degree. But at the same time, she's looking 255 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: at old boy like you, I dare you right? Like nah, 256 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: we ain't about to do this. She legitimately put body 257 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: on old boy. Yeah, like wow, Damar's backing up. She 258 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: put body on old boy like you ain't gonna get 259 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: around me. 260 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I respect it one hundred percent. But you know that's 261 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: what we do as women. 262 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: We go all week, we always be standing in a 263 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: gap for everybody. We always go home. O, man down, 264 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: whoever it is, tee this just I saw this video 265 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: and I immediately went to, why. 266 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Would you do that? 267 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: Like you you're just walking by, you see him? You 268 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: just and DeMar actually had his head down, he was 269 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: eating or talking, doing whatever. I'm still trying to figure 270 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: out what made you want to do what you did 271 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: in that moment. 272 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: And now trying to act like you're the victim. The 273 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: victim is what is? What was crazy? 274 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: Because you invaded this person's personal space, You shoved a 275 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: phone in their face with a bright ass light, and 276 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: now you're upset at the reaction, like we don't know 277 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 3: what that was or what that. 278 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Could have been. 279 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, though, I think 280 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: the bigger piece of this conversation is and I'm sure 281 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: this is something you absolutely can relate to. It's like 282 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: fans have to understand that athletes are humans to when 283 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: they're out eating, when they are out with their families, 284 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: when they're out doing their thing. There's a level of 285 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: respect in how you approach someone as a fan to 286 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: even like, first of all, read the room. 287 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Right. Does this even look like a. 288 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: Moment in which this person is trying to engage fans 289 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: or does this look like a moment in which this 290 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: person is trying to enjoy their time with whoever they 291 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: are with, right, So number one, you need to read 292 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: the room. But secondly, be a bit more respectful in 293 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: how you approach people. 294 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: If you're a. 295 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: Fan and you want a photo or you want to 296 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: autograph or something, just walking up on somebody and putting 297 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: your phone in their face, not only is it rude 298 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: to the common person, but it's especially rude to someone 299 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: who probably would give you their time and attention if 300 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: you had asked. 301 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: For a better one hundred percent. 302 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Have I experienced moments like that a lot, But I 303 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: think people tend to forget to your point that celebrities, actors, athletes, whoever, like, 304 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: we're human. And I just remember when I was playing 305 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: and Jordan was younger. You know, we go out to eat, 306 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: or to a movie or whatever. And I always have, 307 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: always will find time for my fans, right because I'm 308 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: also very appreciative and grateful that, like you want a 309 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: picture with me, you want my autograph, I don't. I 310 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: don't take that shit for granted. But at the same time, 311 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: I've always just asked that you respect my space, respect 312 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: my personal time, and as a mom, right when I 313 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: was out with my kid, I remember one time as 314 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Jordan's started getting older, like he felt some type of 315 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: way because he was like, dang, I can't even get 316 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: some time with my mama, just me and my mama 317 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: without everybody coming over and bothering and things like that. Right, 318 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I'm going to 319 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: be respectful of you and your time. 320 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: So all I ask is for you to do the 321 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: same with me. 322 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: And I would be willing to bet to your point 323 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: if this dude, and I'm assuming he's a fan of Demorrow, right, 324 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: I know he is. I read where he said something 325 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: about don't ever meet your childhood hero, like he said 326 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: that somewhere based off of what happened, But I would 327 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: be willing to bet if he would have just at 328 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: some point walked over and just been like, excuse me 329 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: when you're done or whatever. I'd love to get a 330 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: photo with you or autograph whatever it was he was wanting, 331 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: because I still don't know what that is tomorrow, probably 332 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: would have acknowledged him and either said I'll do it 333 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: later or no, I don't feel like doing it today. 334 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: And if he would have said no, that's okay too, 335 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: like just respect that. I don't condone violence at all, 336 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: but you know what, I do condone somebody doing what 337 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: he did because you violated this man's face mm hm, 338 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: and DeMar had every right to do what he did. 339 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Just my opinion, I feel that. 340 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: Like again, I'm not one that will condone violence either, 341 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: but I do think, like, first of all, I think 342 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: some things are natural reactions, like I love my husband dearly, 343 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 3: but if but if, even if he comes over and 344 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: puts something in my face and I don't expect it, 345 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: my natural reaction might be to just wipe my hand 346 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: like wet something like Yo're gonna jump back like what 347 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: they're doing, Like that's just my natural effect of being 348 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 3: startled by something. So if I would feel that way 349 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: with my husband, I'm definitely gonna throw that away with 350 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: a total stranger coming in my space putting something in 351 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: my face. 352 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what this is. 353 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: Like, people are crazy in the world these days, right, 354 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: and so they come up with all types. 355 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Of things that they put in front. 356 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: I mean I've seen people do that with like autographs, 357 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: Like they just literally walk over and just like hand 358 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 2: you a pen and paper or hand you a pen 359 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: and a shirt or something. And I'm just like, wow, 360 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Like folks aren't even want to ask or find out 361 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: or simply read the room. I have come in contact 362 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: with so many dope people out in the street or whatever. 363 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example. We were in an airport. 364 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: We were coming back from New Orleans and I want 365 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 2: to say this was twenty eighteen, I think it was, 366 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: but anyway, we were coming back from New Orleans and 367 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: we were in the New Orleans airport and literally going 368 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: through security. Right behind us was Lamar Jackson, the NFL player, 369 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: and at the time he had literally just. 370 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Got drafted to Baltimore. 371 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: And I believe the prior TSA officer told him, you know, 372 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: you're supposed to take off your hoodie when you go through, 373 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: but they were like, you know, you don't have to 374 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: take your hoodie off, like we know what's good, Just 375 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: go ahead. He gets up to the TSA line and 376 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: the TSA agent at the front is like being I'm 377 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: gonna do my job. So now there's this big thing 378 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 2: because she's asking him to take off his hoodie, take 379 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: off his glasses, all of that stuff, and she has 380 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: no idea who is. And then finally, so I'm taking 381 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: my time putting my shoes because i want to see 382 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: how this ship play out. I'm like, oh, this is 383 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: gonna be ok. Yeah, what's going wrong? And so finally 384 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: dude from the bank, because now he get irritated, he 385 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: can take his glasses off. Now people starting to know, 386 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, like, wait a minute, I think I know 387 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: this dude. He takes a sweater off. He got like 388 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: three folks chains on under here. And then finally maybe 389 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: a higher officer comes over and says to the agent, hey, 390 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: that's Lamar Jackson, Like he ain't got to do all 391 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: of that. And so of course now everyone sees who 392 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: it is. Now you got folks holding up the TSA 393 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: line because they like, oh, I want to see Lamar Jackson. 394 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: I want he just got drafted. I want to take 395 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: a picture with Lamar. I want to stop Lamar Jackson. 396 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: And so I bring up these examples because I'm like, 397 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: sometimes athletes, celebrities, sometimes folks just want to be normal folks. 398 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: They just want to go through the. 399 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: TSA line like a regular, regular individual, like everybody don't 400 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: always have to be enamored to the point where they 401 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: take away a person's ability to just simply be normal. Yeah, 402 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: that's I agree with you, But that's like, that's a 403 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: difficult one at times because I think I probably look 404 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: at it from both sides. Like the very first time 405 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: I met Michael Jordan, who is like my all everything one, 406 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: I was speechless, I bet right, Like, I was like that, dude, 407 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: is youman? Like that's the goat the Michael Jordan. And 408 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: so the reason why I say I look at it 409 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: from both sides because when you do get that opportunity 410 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: to meet that someone that you've seen on television or 411 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: you've read about, or you've just loved from Afar admired 412 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: from Afar and never thinking that you might meet that person, 413 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: and then who's standing in front of you, you really 414 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: don't know what to do in that moment, right, And 415 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: so I try to respect everybody's face, because it takes 416 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: a lot. 417 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: For me to be like, WHOA, that's so. 418 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: And so I was that way with Michael Jordan, with 419 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: Oprah when I met her, and with Barack Obama right 420 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: next the pemble and Michelle Obama, right, those are people 421 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: you should be that way about, though, and I was so, 422 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: but there was a part of me that was like, 423 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: I may not ever get this opportunity again. And so 424 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: that's where I think as a fan, sometimes you don't 425 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: quite know how to react or respond. And in this situation, 426 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: especially like with TSA, that's their job. So not that 427 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: she trying to cause a scene or whatever, but she's like, dude, 428 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: I don't know you. And and at times even if 429 00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: I do, this is my job. Yeah, but you know what, 430 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: but in a situation like that, it's kind of a 431 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: damn if I do, damn if I don't, because if 432 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: you if you don't make him take his glasses off 433 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: in the hoodie and hat or whatever, it is, the 434 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: next person that comes through probably gonna be like, well, 435 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: you ain't make him take all this shit off? 436 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: Why? Right? 437 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: But I also think in that scenario, specifically, old boy 438 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: at the front of the TSA line should have done 439 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: a better job communicating to the back of the tea. 440 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: That's part I do agree with. Yeah, I totally agree 441 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: with you all that one. I do. Yeah, I just 442 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: I think people just seem to be more respectful in general. 443 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: And when you know what, I used to tell myself 444 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: and I still do it every now and again, especially 445 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: depending on where I'm at. If I'm having a shitty 446 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: day and I just don't want to be bothered, I 447 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: don't leave my house. 448 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: Reason being because even if I'm going to the grocery. 449 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: Store, and especially if i'm home, right I go to 450 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: the grocery store, somebody's gonna recognize me, and because I'm 451 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: having a shitty day, I don't want to be bothered. 452 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: But you don't. You don't know that, do you know what? 453 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, You don't know. I'm having a shitty day 454 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: and I don't want to bother. 455 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: So I just gotta I gotta turn it on in 456 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: that moment, right because this person's like, oh my god. 457 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: Like I've literally had people follow me up and down 458 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: the grocery aisle just to just to come up to 459 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: me and say, you look so familiar, And I'm like, Okay, who. 460 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: Do you think I am, yeah, And then I'm like, 461 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: so this is the one that gets me. Are you 462 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: who I think you are? And I'm like, I don't know, 463 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: because I. 464 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: Don't know who you think I am, right right, And 465 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: so it's a really tough place to be in, especially when. 466 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: You go out in. 467 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: Public, like I don't know if that, if that happened 468 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: after a. 469 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: Game, I don't know, and not that that should matter. 470 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: What should matter is. 471 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: That he, he clearly demark clearly was having some alone time, 472 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: whether that's his girlfriend, friend, business manager, partners, sir, whoever 473 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: it is, he clearly was just having some alone time 474 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: and you chose to interrupt that in a very disrespectful way. 475 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: So I can't be mad at how Damar handle that. 476 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: I'm mad at how old boy handled it. 477 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: And what's crazy is folks will always get mad at 478 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: the response, but never pay attention to what caused you 479 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: to act like that, like what led? 480 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Like how did we get here? Right? 481 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: But when we come back from break, I got a 482 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: quick question for you because it actually leads me to 483 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: a larger point, like an even more macro point. 484 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: So stay with this, y'all. 485 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: So, Cheryl, I'm curious to know do you think that 486 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: because of situations like that, or because even bringing it 487 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: to the w situations like what happened to Britney Griner 488 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: in the airport, what happened to Caitlin when she was 489 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: being stalked, what happened to Angel Like when you think 490 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: about situations like this, do you think that there needs 491 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: to be more security for athletes or celebrities even on 492 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: their like off time, personal time, like should they hire 493 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: personal security guards for stuff like this? Because I feel like, 494 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: and I'm obviously not a high profile celebrity, I get 495 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: a few people every once in a while who would 496 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: be like Terika, oh my gosh, you knows sports from Twitter, 497 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh wow. But for the most part, 498 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: if I need a security officer, I'd be like, girl, 499 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: my husband is down the street. 500 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: You don't want that smoke. That's it. 501 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: But I'm curious, do you think in people's personal times, 502 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: because of the way that things are happening, should there 503 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: be or do you think we're getting to a point 504 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: where it becomes necessary. I mean, even you I've seen, 505 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: I've definitely seen brand didn't have to be. 506 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: Like yeah, no, one hundred and here's the thing I'm 507 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: glad you brought that up, because I actually was going 508 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: to say, like, oh, boy, is lucky Damar didn't have 509 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: his security with him, right, because I'm I'm pretty sure 510 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: Damar travels with his security when he's on his personal 511 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: time going out there with him, and for the most part, 512 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: most NBA players they have their extra security for their dude, 513 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: whoever that is. So I'm I'm actually very surprised that 514 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: DeMar didn't. So to your point, yes I do. But 515 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: here's the thing, especially when you look at the w 516 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: there's probably only a handful of women two things that 517 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: need it outside of playing, and that can afford it, 518 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: right because having your own personal security twenty four or seven, 519 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: when you're just kind of out on your own thing 520 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: like that, shit gets expensive. I know, I know for 521 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: a fact that Caitlyn travels with her own personal security 522 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: as she should rightfully. So right I know, I've seen 523 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: Angel with her security, Asia has her security. Those are 524 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: players that absolutely need it. It's sad that you have to, 525 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: but in this in this world, in the day and 526 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: time we're living in, and people just feel like from 527 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: social media or just because they feel like they have 528 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: a right to just attack you anytime they want to. 529 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: And to your point, like when when I played, we 530 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 2: didn't have like personal security that traveled with us like that, 531 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: even even for games. Right, that wasn't until a little 532 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: later where they were like, oh okay, we might need 533 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: to have some security with them. But even for for 534 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: me now, when I travel, most of the time, I 535 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: have Brandon's with me, my brother or like my husband 536 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: will send a couple of his boys with me depending 537 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: on where I'm going. 538 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: I'll be very honest with you, Tea. 539 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: This all kind of happened over the past couple of years, 540 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: right with all the hate and all the ugliness and 541 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: stuff that came about from from Caitlyn's fans, and when 542 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: when you're getting threats on social media, Like I'm one 543 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: of those people that, like, I take. 544 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: This shit seriously as you should, so I gotta be prepared. 545 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: For the unknown, right, Like, I don't know who might 546 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: try to come in my space, who may try. 547 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: To even pull some shit like oh boy did right? 548 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 2: And you know me, for the for the most part, 549 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, I love interacting with people. 550 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: I love my fans. I won't take a picture. 551 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: Whatever it is I can do that's going to make 552 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: you happy in that moment, like, I don't mind doing it. 553 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: I just ask for people to be respectful. I said, 554 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: don't don't, don't pull that shit that he did. Yeah, 555 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: it just don't just phone out. I'll just put your 556 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: phone out, like you know, I've seen things work like 557 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: a simple hey, how you doing and swoops, it's nice 558 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: to meet you. 559 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: Do you mind if we. 560 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: Take a photo and I'm like, no, let's go what. 561 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: You want to do. I love it. 562 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: I love being in spaces like that. But but I 563 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: will also say this, like you said earlier, just read 564 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: the room. If you come into a restaurant and you 565 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: can see that you know, we're at a table and 566 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: I don't care if that's me and my friends or 567 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: me and my husband. If you can see we're enjoying 568 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: each other's company, or we're in a good conversation, or 569 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: even if I got my food and I'm eating, that's 570 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: not the right time to do that, right. And this 571 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: goes for media too, because some players are not wrong 572 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: when they say that there are some media members who 573 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: act like fans, that there are some media members who 574 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: don't quite understand the fact that there's your job, and. 575 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: Then there is outside of your job. 576 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: And I've got pictures with players and things like that, 577 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 2: So I'm not necessarily being hypocritical or saying like, hey, 578 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna take pictures with players. Absolutely No, I got 579 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: plenty of pictures with players, and I plan to take 580 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: plenty more with players. 581 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: Right. 582 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: But what I'm never doing is I'm never like fangirling 583 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: out when I should be doing my job, or I 584 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: also understand very professional when I'm doing my job, or 585 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: you know, if we're in a private space. I'm not 586 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: like like one of those reporters that's like, listen, we 587 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: good when we on the court, we're good when we're sidelining, right, 588 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: But the moment I get a drink in my hand, babe, 589 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: everything off the record, because it ain't even about you 590 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: at this point. It's about me, and I don't need 591 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: you talk about to really good act in a day 592 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: of food. Yes, I was because I'm at a club 593 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: and I had a drink and I was absolutely acting 594 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: a fool. 595 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about you or what you was doing. 596 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: I was worried about what I was doing. So that's 597 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: what I mean. 598 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: While I'm like, sometimes even media members can be a 599 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: little rude and disrespectful with how they ask for photos 600 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: or how they don't read the room sometimes and maybe 601 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: they you know, do something or capture something or do 602 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: something that like you know why people won't build trust 603 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: with you and that kind of thing. So I just 604 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: think everybody should consider reading the room and understanding how 605 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: to move forward. When you see somebody out in public, 606 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: it is not always a time for you. I mean, listen, 607 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: if I see Barack Obama out in public, you dann ray, 608 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna. 609 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: Be like by rack as you should, as you should, 610 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: I should, but I'm not gonna run up on him. 611 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: I president, okay, but I'm not gonna run up on 612 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: him a Michelle with my cell phone out, like come 613 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: on out. No, he a Leo too, So I know 614 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: how he's gonna respond, So I can't. 615 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: We can. You can't even do it like that. Here's 616 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: the other thing, though, like you would be people would. 617 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: Be surprised at how personable like these celebrities and these 618 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: people right if you, if you handle it the right way, 619 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 2: you usually get the the ugly side or the not 620 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: so good side when. 621 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: You act a fool with them. 622 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: When you when you're rude, yeah, yeah, all right, Well, 623 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: you know what, it's been a great conversation, but let's 624 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: go ahead and level this thing on out because we 625 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: had a lot to get to over the next couple 626 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: of weeks, and I'm excited to talk about it, so 627 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: stay with us, y'all. So basically, overall, I just need 628 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: people to like respect folks of space, and like respect 629 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: where people are coming from, because it's not easy being 630 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 3: a public figure, and it's not easy, like having to 631 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: live a lot of your life in the spotlight, like 632 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: and sometimes people just need the moment to be normal. 633 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: And I think that's pretty much what the overall arching 634 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: theme of today's show is. 635 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: So I totally agree. It ain't never gonna be you, shirl. 636 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna never be normal. 637 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not even it's not even 638 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: about that. I just I think to add on to 639 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: what you said, like, but you do have to let 640 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: people like, let us be human. 641 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we're gonna have bad days, just like 642 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: everybody else does. 643 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: But in Damar DeRozan's case and situation, I just thought 644 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: the way old boy handle that whole thing, like you 645 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: were way out of line, way out of line, and 646 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: tomorrow had every right to handle it the way he 647 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: handled it. 648 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: So, yeah, is what it is. 649 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: Just don't be invading people's face like that. Give me 650 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: my three feet of space. 651 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: That's that's it. 652 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: So with that, let's go ahead and a level today's 653 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: show on off. What you got for us today, Cheryl, So, 654 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: I thought about giving our conversation. I thought about just 655 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: singing the song back back, back back, give me fifty 656 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: B and then I said, no, maybe not, maybe not, 657 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: maybe not. 658 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: This were just kind of stood out to me honestly, 659 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with our conversation. I just you know, 660 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: when you when you're setting goals and you have dreams 661 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: and aspirations of things you want to achieve, sometimes you 662 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: wonder why those things aren't happening. And I found this 663 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: quote by Amanda flood Fludd, and it says, some of 664 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: your goals are buried so deep in fear it doesn't 665 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: have access to what it needs to grow. Oh, I 666 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: just there was something about that. 667 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: It just kind of hit me in the right spot. So, oh, yes, 668 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: maybe that resonates somebody. Yeah, maybe that resonates with some 669 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: of y'all out there. 670 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: Well, friends, it's been an incredible show. As always, we 671 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: appreciate all of you for continuing to listen and continuing 672 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: to show us love and support. We are going to 673 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: be back next week with more next Level conversation. 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