WEBVTT - I Don't Know Whether to Laugh or Cry 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.920 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi everybody, we 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.600 are here with another episode of nine O two one OMG, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:19.759 and yeah, Tori is still out. I don't want to 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:23.400 like sugarcoat it. I know everybody's missing her. I'm missing 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.440 her so much. But she's coming back. I promised, promise, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.360 she's coming back. We're just having some crazy scheduling issues. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.879 She's gonna explain it all when she comes back. But 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.680 we definitely have ourselves covered. Today. We have Amy sugar 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:44.360 Man with us and we're joined once again by David Lasher, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.599 who has graciously told us that he would fill in 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:53.279 for Tori today. So thanks David. Yes, happy to be here. Thanks. Hi. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:57.280 Last time you were with us was like a year ago, 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:02.000 I think, yeah, yeah, remember yeah the summer, the summer 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:07.319 episode that we did, our big Beach episode. Yes, yes, 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.959 Kyle and Kelly. Yeah, but you're back now and you're 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.920 helping me, and you watched the episode this week, So 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:19.119 we're tell me nine two when I was did you do? 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:24.679 I think it was three episodes and they all had 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:29.080 you know, they were all really meaningful, you know, having 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:34.000 rewatched them, I can't believe how bold and uh you know, courageous. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:38.480 Those three episodes were I felt like, okay, so they've 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.039 asked you back for this episode, right, and you're like, yes, cool. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.840 But honestly, they underused you. They didn't give you the 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:52.320 character of Kyle anything to do. Yeah, well, Kyle had 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.760 you know. The first episode, as we spoke about, was 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.960 you know, a very you know, a kind of ground 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.360 breaking episode about sexual orientation and a high school kid 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:08.200 coming out to you know, a very close friend. Uh. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.000 And then the next episode, I was using steroids on 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.880 the football team and Brandon exposed our use of you know, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:20.119 illegal steroids. And then this one was I mean, we'll 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:25.000 get into it, but like serious racial issues. Um So, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.320 I don't know, maybe they ran out of heavy topics, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.800 but I just wanted your I just wanted your character 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.200 to like do more, be say more, do more. Like 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.400 in the episode it was so packed with Brandon in 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:44.400 the newspaper and dance and everything. But yeah, no, I 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.359 I yeah, I looking back, I don't remember that episode 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.480 so much because I probably didn't. I didn't have that 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.720 much to do. But I remember, you know, all you 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.480 working with you guys in Michael Cutlitz, and I isn't 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.480 that wild that Michael Cutlitz is. It's just like a 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.200 jock in this. Yeah, it's super cool that, like you 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.400 guys are It's like you guys are part of the 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.760 group now, kind of like just like part of the 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.320 football team. Is the guys hanging out? You know? I 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.240 like that. Yeah, those are my boys. And it wasn't 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:21.240 Michael like in production design. And Michael's story was our construction. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.800 He was in our construction department. So he built sets 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.800 for the first season, two seasons whenever he started, and 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.200 then all of a sudden he was acting on the show. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.280 They're like, wait, what do you Why are you in here? 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.080 What are you doing on the set? Yeah? And then 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:45.000 he did the walking gay go figure. But before we 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.000 get into the episode, I just want to kind of 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.240 catch up with you, Like, what's been going on in 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:54.400 the last year with you? What if? What have we missed? Um? 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.400 I guess first and foremost most recently, been having a 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.760 great time. I'm with my my family, my kids. I 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.040 have a freshman in college who came and met us 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.880 in Colorado last week for spring break and we had 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.600 a week of skiing. Yeah, and there you know, my 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.960 son's the junior and he's uh captain of his varsity 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.479 basketball team, and you know, studying for a c t S. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.520 And we're looking at colleges. And then I have a 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.760 twelve year old Chelsea who's a little TikTok star and 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:30.719 soccer player. Um and uh, we just had such a 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.000 great week scheme because they're old enough to ski with us. Now. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.560 You know, I'm not like carrying three sets of skis 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.840 begging them to go to ski school you know. Um, yeah, 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.159 I've been there. Skiing with little kids is a lot 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.479 of work, a lot, but it's when when they get 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.479 older and they can do it. It's like it's like, hey, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.040 I have a ski buddy. I have. These are my friends, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.960 not my kids anymore. It's so fun. How old are 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:04.000 your kids? Okay? My youngest is almost sixteen, my middle 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.680 one is nineteen, and my oldest one is almost okay, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.800 so you know, I listen. I enjoyed all the stages 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:16.000 of my kids lives, but now it's just so much fun. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.360 They're like these grown people that are now friends and 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:25.320 people that I respect and enjoy. It's it's really cool. Um. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.359 And then yeah, I've been doing a lot of podcasts. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.599 I did, Uh this Forward Filmmaker podcast for a distributor 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.600 of a movie that I have on Apple TV called 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:40.880 Sister with this great actress Grace Coughin, who is also 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:47.040 starring in and Apple's new movie called The Sky Is Everywhere. Um, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.039 So we released right after that to try and capture 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.279 some of that audience. And she's just one of the 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.400 best actresses I've ever worked with. Um. And then I 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.360 just I just finished the last re write on a 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:07.560 screenplay that I have with with Tribeca Films. Um. I 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.080 don't know if I'm even allowed to say that yet 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.120 because we haven't finalized anything, but Jane Rosenthal and Tribeca 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:18.280 really championed this last script. The last film I did 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:23.760 called Sister, we premier to Tribeca and uh so they're 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.919 very interested in this new screenplay. And it's been a 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.640 number of years because I promised myself I'm not going 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:35.800 to do another film unless it's something I'm dying to 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.040 do that I think people need to see because it 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.440 does takes like two years of your life. Um. But yeah, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.600 you know, finishing a piece of writing is really satisfying. 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.680 I'm really happy with it. What an accomplishment. I mean, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:54.480 that's that's really admirable. Yeah, we'll see if it gets made. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.479 I've written it doesn't get made, Like just finishing a script, 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.560 finishing a book, wishing something like that is such a 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:06.400 huge undertaking. Yeah, I was like, I didn't know what 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.960 to do with myself. When I finally submitted it to them, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.000 I'm like, Wow, there's nothing else I can do. It's 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.760 either it's either gonna get made or it's not. It's 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.360 now it's out of my control. But well, fingers crossed 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:23.760 were sending all the good Nina and OMG vibes to you. Okay, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.840 should we get into the episode? You guys? Yeah, you 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.760 want to when you read Okay, already everybody. This is 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.320 season three, episode ten, Home and Away. It aired on 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:42.640 October Synopsis. After two students are shot at Shaw High 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.880 Schools football game, the West Beverly School Board cancels their 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:52.760 upcoming football game. Brenda holds band auditions and selects David's 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:57.360 band to perform at the dance. Brandon and Jordan Bonner 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:02.000 band together to publish an titorial inviting Shaw students to 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:06.200 attend West Beverly's dance. Kelly makes plans to meet up 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:11.000 with her father. Directed by Jack bender written by Chip Johansson. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.800 My favorite thing about nine until No literally is that 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:21.000 we can have this very serious, very of the time 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:29.720 heavy story going well. Simultaneously we have not the whack 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:36.440 like Sue scambling, like just being nuts, David, David singing again, 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.880 David dancing and singing, and then the drama of Kelly's dad. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.520 It's like, what was a lot going on in this episode? 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.240 I don't even know where to start, Like what do 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.120 we how do we even begin? I mean, okay, I'm 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:55.400 just jump right in. The beginning was unlike something we've 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.440 ever seen on the show. Was different with the whole band, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.320 the marching band, and the uh that was before the credits. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.640 It was just very different. And then straight into the 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:12.120 voiceover of Brandon, which the show has never done that 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:16.920 kind of device, that of using that voiceover, and it 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.360 was like, wait, what's happening? I don't know if I 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.120 like this, but I ended up kind of liking it. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.920 I gotta be honest, Yeah, what did you think of that? David? 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.120 It was an interesting device and we sort of had 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.600 like a little bit of a we went back in 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.920 time and then it was current like it was a 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:36.600 little whoa, this is different. Yeah, I didn't realize they 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.760 had never used voiceover, But I thought getting inside Brandon's 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.360 head for his motivations and what he was trying to 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.840 accomplish was very effective. Here's my question about that, because 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.120 you know from your experience probably that a lot of 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.520 times filmmakers will producers, whoever, directors will use that voiceover 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:03.520 device as a as a X because the episode isn't 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.920 coming together, it's not understandable, the audience is, it's not 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.160 getting it, so they decide, okay, let's go and lay 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.959 in some voiceover to sort of explain what's happening as 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.480 it's happening. And it happens all the time, and sometimes 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.320 it's great, sometimes it's in you know, it's like the 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.160 premise of the show. But this was just so out 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.640 of context for our show that I was curious, like 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.200 maybe that was the reason they decided to do that 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:32.760 voice over. I it sounded like it was part of 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:37.600 the original screenplay. Yeah, it was like the narrative of 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.640 this is all about Brandon retelling this story, catching us 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.760 up on sort of what was happening, and then the 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.440 Blaze becoming such an important part of it, and then 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.360 Jordan's also writing his thing, and that was all part 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:58.080 of this like master plan they had. I mean I 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.559 appreciated the story for sure, and the importance of it, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.360 and especially being on the heels of the riots and 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.319 all the Rodney King stuff that happened in the nineties. Yeah, 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.440 and that was just a few months earlier. It was 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.760 really timely, Like this was October and that had been 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.960 happening in April May. So I wonder if the you know, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.240 producers and writers were like, we need to really address this. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.400 We can't just not talk about this, all this tension 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.800 that's going on in the city. And that's why this 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:31.840 episode came in. Yeah, David, you remember at all or 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.160 like when you when they brought you back, do you 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.960 remember them discussing anything about like this is a very 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:42.840 serious episode. Well, like I said, my previous two episodes 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.040 were also very heavy issues. So I just thought, wow, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.400 these writers are they're going for it there. You know, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.959 you guys had a huge platform. First of all, right, so, uh, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.959 you're filming in a city that I had just moved here. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.920 I remember the riots. I mean it was insane. Um 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.880 so to do a show that takes place in l A. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.680 Films in l A and just ignore it would have 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.880 been uh, not not irresponsible, but just kind of strange. Yeah, 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.240 they they went for it here on this one. It 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.480 felt oddly or oddly is not the right word sad. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:27.640 How Also, we're still dealing with school shootings and issues 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.640 very similar to this, So I was like, Wow, if 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.640 you removed sort of the nine o two one oh 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.760 of it, like just the you know, the clothes, the 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.439 cheesy parts, the episode could have been on any show 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.000 today like this is. That's just this is such a 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:50.520 topic that is completely in the news and something everyone's 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.320 discussing on a regular basis. So I thought, Wow, they 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.599 really did have some sort of a crystal ball or 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:03.400 knew like these issues are always going to be relevant. Unfortunately. Sad. Yeah, 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.480 sad that we haven't progressed. I mean, I guess at 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.280 first when I saw it, I kind of felt like 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.559 the school board or Mrs Teasley, the whole big meeting 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:18.600 about canceling the game, canceling the dance. At first, I 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.719 was like, wait, what why are they doing that? That 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.320 seems so not okay to do? And uh, but I 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.000 guess I get it. I mean I would be afraid 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.360 to like if I wouldn't want to be responsible for sending, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.760 you know, the school the kids into a dangerous environment. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.280 But then they did say that it wasn't it wasn't 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.440 the Shaw kids the right the incident was caused by 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.600 It was the other school that came in. So I 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.920 also kind of was like, why are they pinning it 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:54.880 on Shaw when it just happened there. You know what 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.880 I think is so fascinating is after watching it, I 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.280 was like, Oh, this is and I'm just gonna say it, 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.320 like this is gonna be hard to talk about, And 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:07.640 it's like that's pretty something that an episode from thirty 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:14.480 years ago is challenging to navigate properly for us thirty 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.000 years later, because it's like I literally was like, how 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.480 am I going to do this? Because I also want 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.280 to talk about the goofy parts of the episode and 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:27.200 it seems insensitive to the seriousness of the a storyline, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.240 And it's like, wow, like I'm having the same conversations 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.640 that I have, how do we navigate current news stories 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.720 today about a show from thirty years ago. I'm like, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.240 I don't want to say the wrong thing, and I 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.920 don't want to like mess this up, and I need 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.680 to like do my research and handle this probably and 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.720 it's like this from thirty years ago. It's nine O 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:49.640 two one oh what like it did you guys at all? Like? 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:56.120 Still very relevant issues. But I think Brandon's um solution 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:01.560 is incredible, you know. I mean, yes, there's risk involved 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:07.800 in bringing the groups together, but what what other choice 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.800 do we have except stay divided or come together at 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.160 a dance and and try and find common ground? Right? Yeah? 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.800 I was really tense when well, first of all, I 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.840 was a little lost, like I kept getting a little 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.560 lost in the story with the newspaper and the articles 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.000 and the and the I did, and I was I 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.040 was grateful for the voice over because I didn't really 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.520 I literally agree with you, Jenny. I wrote down somewhere 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.560 I'm not sure I'm getting what's happening. Yeah, And I 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.360 felt like, wait, why have I not understanding an episode? 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.760 I don't want out? Something's wrong with me. I literally 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.840 was like, Well'm not falling. It's a little convoluted with 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.640 like who's gonna be this though, because then it's this, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.960 because then it's this. Yeah, I was like, wait, who's 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.520 writing what? Who cares? I don't even care about the newspaper, 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.600 But I did focus on Brandon's beautiful eyebrows. I mean, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.440 we can't do this podcast and not talk about stuff 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:01.320 like that. This eyebrows are so expressive. Did you guys 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.800 ever notice the way they're like, he looked great typing 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.960 because they kind of first of all pleased talk about 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.520 the computer. The computer was like, oh my god, I 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.720 did notice that. So uncomfortable and so like bizarre, Like 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:19.480 he was like, look, there was a computer. It was 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.600 the old Apple twee or something like that, Like I 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.920 remember having that for sure. But then they shot it 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.800 so you could see his like looking like a bad reflection. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.200 I saw that shot. That was a great shot. They 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.880 did not twice. It was so good they used it twice, 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.240 but it was There were so many fun things to 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.880 talk about in this episode. Other than me being confused 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.920 a little bit by the storyline. There was just it 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.480 was tricky and they were navigating this heavy thing while 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.160 we're literally with some of this other stuff like what 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.840 dance were you guys? Okay, we're not there, we cannot 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.920 We're not jump into the end. I'm sorry. We have 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:03.160 to say that. Really that's the piece to resistance. Like, yeah, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.480 I will say I was confused as well by what 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.560 was happening with Kelly and Dylan, because it was as 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:15.200 if nothing had happened before. It was back to normal. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:20.200 Dylan's with Brenda and Kelly's seemingly fine with it and 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.240 off with her father. I just was like, what is 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.159 how is this? And then there's a moment where the 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.320 three of you were dancing dance and I was like, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:32.560 three like a threesome dance? That's there. There's like this 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.119 all this tension in the episode before and the episode 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.119 before and the episode before, and I didn't I was like, 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.920 how do they It's like I felt all confused. Yeah, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.160 And then there was that beautiful scene at the peach 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.760 fit between the two of them were like, deep down 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.320 in my mind, I'm like they love each other. It 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.199 was all like goog, like, we have so much more 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.160 to unpack. Let's take a quick break and we'll be 0:17:55.320 --> 0:18:14.320 right back. I love that We've always noticed the same, Like, yeah, 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.080 when Luke pulls both of you in together, I was like, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.160 this guy wants both of them. I mean, I am 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.800 I mistaken? Or is there still is there something going 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.199 on with Bryn, I mean with Dylan and Kelly? Or 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:37.880 am I did I smoke, you have not resolved that right, Oh, 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:42.679 and it's it's the big the big thing is coming. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.680 So that's why I was still that threesome. Dands, I 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.960 was like, yeah, And even when he goes to the 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.439 peach pen and finds poor little Kelly there drowning in 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.639 her tears, uh, I was still I was like, I 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.920 don't I don't know where these two characters are. I 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.640 like that they're still friends like this, and they're still 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.080 there for each other on this little deep level of understanding. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:15.040 But I was very confused. I felt like it was consistent. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.679 I felt like I didn't know, Like I felt like 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.919 that storyline was kind of dropped. Yeah, David, I'm so 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.720 curious when you did this episode, do you remember like 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:29.560 how big nine O two have gotten now, like and 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:35.200 how major it was and how Kelly Dylan Brenda Dylan 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:42.240 was such a thing. Yeah, I mean, I think I 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.080 talked about it when we did are The first episode 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.720 I did was that summer where the show really blew 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.760 up and I just moved to l A. And you know, 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.160 I had told you guys, I was pretty good friends 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.920 with Luke at the time, and uh, I remember driving 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.320 to those Beach episode It's down PC to go work with, like, 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.760 you know, the big on the biggest show in the 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.080 world at the time. And I just remember feeling like 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.840 the magic of California, you know, when you first moved 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:16.320 there and you got working on the show, and you know, 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.840 Jenny certainly looked a part of like the California Girl, 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.760 and um, it was magical. It was definitely a magical time. 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.000 And then I remember going to those warehouses to shoot 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.960 the interiors. I was like, what the hell is this this? 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.480 Why aren't we on Disney Load or Warner Brothers. So 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.200 I was just driving down p two days ago and 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.159 I was driving right by where the Beach Club was 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.240 and I couldn't find it. I was looking, like I thought, 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.760 I wondered it hasn't been torn down and rebuilt. I 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:48.840 think it was called Back at the Beach. I think 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.600 it's still there, still there. It's so magical right there, 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.280 Like when you do drive that that mile right there, 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:59.920 I just get flooded with like nineties memories. Yeah, me too, 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:02.880 So should we digg it? Okay, So we're jumping around 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.920 a but let's talk about Kelly and her dad. Okay, Okay, 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:07.520 and I thought, okay, there's a couple of things I 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.200 want to ask you about. One is, obviously I did 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.879 love the scene in the peach Pit, and I thought, oh, 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.520 when Dylan says she's Kelly says, I don't know whether 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.480 to laugh or cry, and and Dylan says nobody does. 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.640 And it's just like, oh, like that's why we all 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.480 fell in love with him so much. He was almost 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:32.679 like like he's so hot and sexy and then just 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:39.359 so wise. Yeah, well we get a little we get 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.199 that peek into where you say, like I would have. 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:45.439 I went with Cliff Berman in his pool house and 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.439 got high for three days, and my mom was coked up, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:52.879 and I'm like, whoa, Yeah, You're like, okay, well, people 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.560 are dealing with stuff. She was a hot mess. She 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.600 was a mess. That was one of my watching that 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:04.200 scene act I remember filming that, and I remember preparing 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.240 for that scene and like getting to that place where 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.119 Kelly had to be for that scene, and that line 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:14.680 was so like impactful on me just as an actress 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:19.840 on the you know, just feeling so much like empathy 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.040 and for this character and loving her so much and 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:27.040 her her struggle and I don't know, it just took 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:32.640 me right back. Yeah, that was that was heavy stuff. 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.680 I mean a father that's missing and and a mother 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.280 that's coked up. That's I mean that could play today 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.960 on like the edgiest shows like Euphoria, you know back 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:48.440 then it's I can't believe they wrote that stuff. Really. Yeah, 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.240 that's so interesting to bring that up because a lot 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:54.119 of fans right in and talk about the similarities between 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.879 nine O two O and Euphoria, and it's really true. 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:02.480 Like I knew in that moment, like oh wow, like 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:08.840 this character has such a past and it's so heavy 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.000 and she is a completely different person, but like, oh 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:17.440 it all just still is in her in there. Yeah, 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.600 it was a great scene. I like that scene too. 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.399 I remember doing it. I remember I remember doing that 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:29.159 scene with Luca. Was a good day. Yeah, tell me 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.440 to tell me more. What do you remember from it? Like, 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.000 because he obviously plays such an important part in that scene, 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.159 and it has to be him, it couldn't have been 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:42.119 anyone else. Yeah, because he, like I said, they just 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.600 have a deeper understanding of each other and from like 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.200 childhood and the way they were raised in this environment. 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:53.040 It's very similar environments. Is this the first time that 0:23:53.080 --> 0:24:00.280 we see Kelly's troubles with her no show dad. We 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.879 may have an inkling of it before, but this really, 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.680 to me was the most like, oh wow, like this 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:11.200 is real left up. The dad comes later, yes, and 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.760 we do get to know who that is and kind 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.840 of flush that out a little bit. But yeah, that 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.320 seemed like I just remember, you know, usually when you're 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.040 doing an emotional scene like that and you're trying to 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:28.639 get your your bearings about you, it's like it takes 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.960 a lot of focus and concentration and you have to 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:36.600 really put yourself in that scenario in your mind. And 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.760 I just remember every time, because you know, Luk and 0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.199 I had to do that all the time with storyline stuff, 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.720 and I just remember we goofed around all the time. 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.959 We joked around all the time. We were always punching 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.639 each other and tickling each other and laughing and kicking 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.359 people like you know, like tripping people, like doing jokes 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.359 all the time. But then when it came to work 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:02.040 like that, we would both just really get quiet and 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.439 and just be there for each other to like really 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:10.119 work off of. And I love that about him, and 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:14.320 and it taught me that, you know, that's that's called, 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:18.399 you know, being a good scene partner, you know, being 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:25.280 just as an invested in what the other actors going 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:29.439 through as you know, as as he was in that moment. 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.600 It just was so helpful and it really taught me 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:37.000 a lot about like professionalism and doing scenes like that. 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:41.000 You know. Wow, Yeah, David, you remember about Luke, like 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:45.960