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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB. It is me

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Speaker 1: joeyp Joep's a PA, and this is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to be back here with two of

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Speaker 1: my best buds, the Welsh and the Joe Alrico, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna break down some undervalued pictures for you today.

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Speaker 1: for fantasy baseball. I don't know if that's statistically true,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like it, so I'm just gonna say

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Speaker 1: it out loud because that's the kind of era we're

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Speaker 1: living in. And each of us have assembled a list

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Speaker 1: here of three pitchers that we find to be undervalued

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Speaker 1: going into this season, some early NFBC ADP to go off,

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Speaker 1: plus some rankings on Fantasypros dot com you can find

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Speaker 1: right now. And we've even agreed on somebody, and there's

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Speaker 1: one that we love but we're debating about. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring that to the conversation too. Before I bring

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros. All right, gentlemen, it's great to see you

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Speaker 1: off season still slugging along a little bit. It's been

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Speaker 1: a little weird one, Welsh and I. You've talked about it,

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Speaker 1: Joe Rico. I just had a really interesting conversation. I

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Speaker 1: was just on the show with my good buddy Craignish,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Marlins we all know MLB Insider, and

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Speaker 1: we were having a conversation off air where he is

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Speaker 1: very steadfast believing that next year we're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: salary cap. And what you're seeing right now is the

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Speaker 1: beginnings of some of these teams realizing that that's probably

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Speaker 1: going to be the inevitable change in the league. And

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Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing teams like the Mets, who are

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Speaker 1: very high on the salary bar, not necessarily adding a lot,

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Speaker 1: and while you're seeing some other teams adding a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, like the Pittsburgh Pirates, because there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a floor as well. Do you think we're coming

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Speaker 1: to that eventual end game in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: I think we're trending towards a salary cap and a

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Speaker 2: salary floor. I think we're seeing teams be a little

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Speaker 2: bit more careful. Like you mentioned, the Dodgers haven't gone

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Speaker 2: out and given six hundred million dollars to Kyle Tucker,

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Speaker 2: and maybe they would have if we were in upon

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Speaker 2: a potential work stoppage. They went out and got Das

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Speaker 2: feel like the higher end teams are kind of taking

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Speaker 2: a closer in Pete Fairbanks Pittsburgh in on every free agent.

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Speaker 2: It could be some gaming to try and get over

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Speaker 2: the floor. If the one does come in a couple

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Speaker 2: of years. Yeah, I could see that.

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Speaker 1: And Welsh, speaking of Kyle Tucker hasn't signed yet, I

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Speaker 1: thought for sure the blue Jays would be the landing spot.

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Speaker 1: Got any predictions here? It is only the sixth of

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Speaker 1: take a rico out because of course he's going to

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Speaker 1: say blue Jays. We know that. So Welsh, where does

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Speaker 3: All said and done, still think it sounds like it's

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Speaker 3: even know if teams are being hesitant because of a

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Speaker 3: the impetus of all of the potential work stoppage. It

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Speaker 3: is going to be trying to get a salary cap

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Speaker 3: that's why this might get so nasty and dirty because

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Speaker 3: of this. But I don't think teams are making moves

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Speaker 3: And then they're what going to force teams to cut

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Speaker 1: Their Well, I just don't have fother it in.

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Speaker 3: That's what I believe. So that's why I don't think

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Speaker 1: Five to ten year window or whatever they agree on.

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Speaker 1: But it's more that you know, you could sell it

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Speaker 1: to the PA if there's a floor, because yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: all the superstars making a ton of money, But about

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Speaker 1: the guys in the bottom, right, Like all boats want

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Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to see and it's going to

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Speaker 1: Lots to talk about. This is what we do. We

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Speaker 1: talked baseball here in the channel, so let's talk more baseball.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Joe a Rico here. Joe, give me

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Speaker 1: a starting pitcher that you think is being undervalued currently

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Speaker 1: in ADP early on in January, and why so.

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Speaker 2: If all the names are going to talk about today,

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Speaker 2: I think for all of our lists, this is the

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Speaker 2: And as Cole Reagan's for me, a guy who did

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Speaker 2: a little bit as well. The surface stats weren't amazing

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Speaker 2: for him at all. A four sixty seven era is

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Speaker 2: nothing to write home about, but the strikeouts were better

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Speaker 2: than we've ever seen them, with Cole Reagan's fourteen point

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Speaker 2: He had the best walk rate of his career as well,

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Speaker 2: at seven point eight percent, and even in a really

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Speaker 2: definitely something that you can live with. Of all pitchers

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Speaker 2: who threw at least sixty innings last year, he had

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Speaker 2: the best strikeout minus walk rate, He had the best SIERRA,

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Speaker 2: SP sixteen and seventeen eighteen type of range. In early drafts,

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Speaker 2: I'm planning my flag as Cole Reagan's as an SP

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Speaker 2: one and he'll be a top ten pitcher in my

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that he's going as a

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Speaker 1: you know, around the twentieth pitcher, because you know me,

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Speaker 1: You know, a guy that's been just kind of what

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Speaker 1: Reagan's who might be a little bit more inflammatory, but

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Speaker 1: we know what the upside is. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of upside, Welsh, give us your first on the

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Speaker 1: list for undervalued pitchers early going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough because there's so many like fun names.

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Speaker 3: Reagan's is definitely like the most fun because that's like

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Speaker 3: a guy that could be a top five but he's

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Speaker 3: This is the highest ranked of my players, but this

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Speaker 3: NFBC drafts. In fact, he's almost going around one fifty

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Speaker 3: NFPC because it's like he's like the fifty ninth pitcher,

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Speaker 3: but that's probably relative to like, you know, the fortieth

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Speaker 3: Michael King was a player I really love going into

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Speaker 3: last year, struggled with some injuries. This past season. He

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Speaker 3: the negatives on Michael King, like how much can you

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Speaker 3: The negatives in his game where his expected ERA was

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Speaker 3: he really had in his career. But prior to this injury,

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Speaker 3: he was looking lights out. April and May struck out

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Speaker 3: sixty one in nine starts while giving up only thirteen runs.

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Speaker 3: So he ended up having because then he got hurt

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Speaker 3: a two five to nine pre All Star Break era.

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Speaker 3: Then comes back, he's not the same to over six

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Speaker 3: he gave up eight earned runs. But what I love

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Speaker 3: about Michael King is I love the pitch mix. It's

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Speaker 3: Lance Brosdowski talked a ton about him this offseason. Is

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Speaker 3: one of the great acquisitions because he's just one of

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Speaker 3: do all that great stuff. Great ballpark he's pitching in.

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Speaker 3: He had a two and a half essentially ERA at

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Speaker 3: I think he's wildly underrated because I love the shapes.

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Speaker 3: I still love the stuff. His change up was a

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Speaker 3: the shoulder injury, and when he's going like outside of

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Speaker 3: a like thirty year old pitcher. We're kind of done

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Speaker 3: with it, like a post post hype sleeper type of.

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Speaker 1: Thing, just hitting his straw. I mean, these guys right now,

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Speaker 1: usually it's in their early thirties where they take off.

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Speaker 3: Typically like yeah, and that's where I'm getting it. But

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Speaker 3: he was a guy that was like a reliever that

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Speaker 3: transitioned to a starter, was decent. Had the injury. He's

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Speaker 3: back with the Podreys, didn't get a big deal. I

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Speaker 3: think people hold that against him, regardless of the point.

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Speaker 3: I want to draft him. Run one point fifty in drafts,

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Speaker 3: especially in NFBC. I think is a prime spot and

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Speaker 3: I think he's got a ton of upsides, so I think

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Speaker 3: he's undervalued this year.

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Speaker 1: I actually like the fact that the Padres resigned him

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Speaker 1: makes me feel better about his injury, because usually when

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Speaker 1: teams have a guy that's hurt and they know in

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Speaker 1: house exactly what's going on, they're like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna let this guy kind of walk away. They didn't,

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Speaker 1: which means that they must feel pretty good about his

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Speaker 1: health going forward. Otherwise they wouldn't have signed to that extension.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that he actually did resign with the

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Speaker 1: Padres actually makes me feel a little bit safer about

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Speaker 1: drafting him this year. And he was one of my

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Black Book, and I love Michael King. Everybody

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Speaker 1: But note the first well Welsh could. And I'm kind

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Speaker 3: Well, Joey, one of the things, sadly is you have

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Speaker 1: Has got into like a hundred innings in easy No

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's You've had a lot of welshsms. We've

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Speaker 1: You know, I love Welsh's third pick too. Of just

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Speaker 1: He was cy young Worthy last year until some injuries

433
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,480
Speaker 1: derailed his season. He is currently the forty third ranked

434
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Speaker 1: pitcher on fantasypros dot com and he's won sixty four

435
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,240
Speaker 1: overall in NFBC. And his name is Nathan Eovaldi. Now,

436
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,720
Speaker 1: I understand Vivaldi is going to be thirty six years old.

437
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 1: I get that, but Nadievaldi last year was as I

438
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 1: want to reiterate, Cy young Worthy, that's how good he was.

439
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,400
Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty innings. He had a K nine

440
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 1: right around nine. Uh, the walk rate was under two

441
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,199
Speaker 1: there for walks per nine he was brilliant. He had

442
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 1: a one to seven three ERA, which is not sustainable.

443
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 1: But when you realize that the deeper issues here, when

444
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 1: you go start to look into it must have been

445
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 1: way higher. It wasn't. The x ERA was three oh seven.

446
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 1: You had a two eight zero FIP and a three

447
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 1: to zero three x FIP, so that one point seven

448
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 1: three ERA was not absurd. It was actually pretty much

449
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,400
Speaker 1: what he was doing, which was dominating. Now, he did

450
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 1: have a shoulder issue. All the news so far is

451
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: that the shoulder looks good. So this is one of

452
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 1: these guys that you're gonna have to wait and see

453
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 1: in spring trading, make sure things are going well. He

454
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 1: also had off season sports hernia surgery that's also done

455
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 1: and dusted. He seems fine from that all the reports.

456
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 1: I just right up on again about it yesterday just

457
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 1: to make sure that everything was on track, and he

458
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: seems like he is good to go for the season.

459
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be lined up. So, sure you worry about

460
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 1: the age, sure you worry about the injury. Has he

461
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 1: been a huge innings eater throughout career. Guys deal with injuries.

462
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: He's been a guys that with some injuries. But the

463
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: potential return on investment when we start to get this

464
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: late in pitchers is massive. We're talking about a frond

465
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 1: of the rotation starter that you can get outside of

466
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: the top one hundred and fifty players, and that's just

467
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: absurd value. So is it a risk, Of course it is.

468
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 1: But Nadie Evaldi in these last couple of years in

469
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 1: Texas has really shown you that he can be an

470
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 1: outstanding fantasy starter. I wish I had more shares last year.

471
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,479
Speaker 1: I did not, and I kept waiting for the other

472
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: shoot to drop and it just didn't. So over the

473
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: twenty plus starts that he made, they were absolutely fantastic.

474
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: I love Eovaldi's bounced back potential here in twenty twenty six,

475
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: especially on the discount you're going to get him. Joe l. Rico,

476
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: you've got one more in the chamber. Let's talk about

477
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: your third pick here for undervalue starting pitcher.

478
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one might be my favorite. Actually, I've done

479
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 2: a couple of early drafts and I keep clicking on

480
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: this name and it's Kid Cavali, and now Kid Cavali,

481
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: I think people have kind of given up. He's maybe

482
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: the poster boy of the post type sleepers because he

483
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 2: was a top prospect, missed a couple of years, came

484
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: back on the surface. It was a four twenty five.

485
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: It was a one forty eight whip. Really nothing to

486
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: write home about. But there are a lot of positives

487
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 2: with Kate Cavali as well. He has four pitches that

488
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: he uses at least thirteen percent of the time and

489
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 2: all have a stuff plus of at least one hundred

490
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: and two very deep arsenal. He's now a couple of

491
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: years removed from his Tommy John surgery and the arm

492
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 2: trouble in general, and even with the poor results, he

493
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: did a great job of limiting hard contact against It

494
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: was a four percent barrel rate, eighty seven point seven

495
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 2: mile per hour average exsit velocity and a forty one

496
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: percent hard hit rate. Gets a lot of ground balls

497
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: about fifty five percent, and the strikeout rate will almost

498
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: certainly improve. It was an eighteen percent strikeout rate, but

499
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: he's a twelve percent swinging strike rate, which indicates a

500
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five percent strikeout rate, and he

501
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: gets a chase about thirty one percent of the time,

502
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: which is also a really strong number. So Kate Cavali

503
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: dirt cheap at well after pick three hundred. His ADP

504
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: as of this morning is about three point thirty two,

505
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: outside of the top one hundred starting pitchers. Nobody's really

506
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: that interested in him, but for your last pick of

507
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: the draft, or maybe even the first first week of

508
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: free agency after the draft, Kate Cavali is potential diamond

509
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: in the rough there for sure.

510
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the Cavali pick. I think there's another

511
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: good one too. There's some good names. I hope you're

512
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: all takeing notes out there putting them in your cheat sheets.

513
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 1: All right, So I teased it before Welsh. Let's talk

514
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: about a guy who is coming over from the KBO,

515
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: and he signed with Joe Rico's Toronto Blue Jays this offseason.

516
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: He was about as dominants you could possibly get in

517
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: the KBO. I mean, he was unbelievable. Let's talk about

518
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: Cody Ponce. Let's talk about the turnaround of a guy

519
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: who is kind of a journeyman pitcher in the America

520
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: and the National League, excuse me, and now all of

521
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: a sudden finds himself back thrust into a World Series contender.

522
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: And a guy who put up just massive numbers last year.

523
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Let's talk about him.

524
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my third one. He's the lowest of

525
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 3: any of the players we're going to talk about NFBC.

526
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 3: He is going outside the top four hundred right now.

527
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 3: He is an afterthought. So he is the last pick

528
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: in any standard you know, home draft you're doing. He

529
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: will probably rise as more people kind of end up

530
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: jumping on it. It's like one hundred and sixty fourth

531
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: among all pitchers on NFBC. As you mentioned, he was

532
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: over in the KBO where he won the MVP. He

533
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: had a seventeen and one record, a one to eight

534
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: to nine ERA, two hundred and fifty two strikeouts. What

535
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: I think is actually most interesting about that is the innings.

536
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: He had one hundred and eighty innings. So he's a

537
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: guy that gets to come over and has no limitation

538
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: they can as we would say, he's an eatings enter.

539
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: He's going to be one of those guys for this

540
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: Toronto team. Some interesting information as far as just like

541
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: the pitch mix fastball forcing fastball, changeup cutter. That's going

542
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: to be like the big stuff forty six percent whiff

543
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: on the change up the fastball. From when he was

544
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 3: here he's added two miles per hour back on the fastball.

545
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: So he was learning around ninety three when he was

546
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: in the States. He's around ninety five and a half

547
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: in the KBO. Now something you have to monitor is

548
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: some of the shapes of his pitches with a KBO

549
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: ball coming back to the US are going to be

550
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: a question. But his four team twenty seven percent wiff

551
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: rate over there, the change up is solid. The cutter

552
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 3: is something that they might end up manipulating a little bit.

553
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: It could be more like a gyro cutter, and a

554
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: lot of different people have talked about it. Plus he's

555
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: got a curveball and a sinker. The projections are fascinating

556
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: on him. The bat X just released, and then you

557
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 3: can compare this against Steamer. Steamer's putting him around one

558
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five innings, which I think is a

559
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: little bit more appropriate a for era the bat only

560
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty nine innings, which I think is

561
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: under selling, and a lot of projections just undersell that

562
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: type of stuff. But one of the biggest differences between

563
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: like Steamer and the bat eight point six eight k

564
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: per nine for Steamer nine point seven seven for the bat.

565
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: That's a huge K percentage. In fact, when you go

566
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: and take a look among all overall, because that's a

567
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: k P nine, I gave you K percentage. He is

568
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: the thirty first highest K percentage among all starting pitchers

569
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 3: according to the BAT. So there's some major strikeout potential

570
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: on a winning team where he is going to eat

571
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 3: eat some of those innings and he's going outside the

572
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: top four hundred. This is a dude, you know, like

573
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 3: again MVP and the KBO. Maybe that's you know, triple

574
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 3: A for a lot of people in your minds, but

575
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: this is a guy that's got experience in the major leagues.

576
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: Before he's added velo on his fastball. He has that

577
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 3: cutter which is really going to be a good setup

578
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: pitch to his four seamen his change up. He's going

579
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: to be able to go deep into games. That Toronto

580
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: team is a World Series contender. I love everything about it.

581
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: And he is free ninety nine. So Cody Ponce is

582
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: an absolutely undervalued pitcher to take at the end of

583
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: all your drafts.

584
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: I have him in this section with him as the

585
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: wild cards this year in the Black Book. That's how

586
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: I've ranked these guys that this is just massive upside, right,

587
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: and it's all about how they transitioned, in this case,

588
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: transition back to the major leagues.

589
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: So Joey, I's got a bunch of questions, just real quick.

590
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: We're not talking about him here, but you're talking about

591
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 3: like a five foot eleven, you know, a buck fifty

592
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: with cold water on pitcher, which that doesn't necessarily have

593
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: to be anything. So Sunny Gray has done it as

594
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: being a little bit smaller, but you know, people don't

595
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: know how he's going to translate over with his reverse

596
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: slider that he's throwing.

597
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: And every single one of those guys, Welsh, I feel

598
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: like they all have different paths and to try to say,

599
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: well this they are all going to be like you know,

600
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: I remember when Yamamoto and Imanaga came in the same year.

601
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: I said, look, I think Yamamoto is gonna take a

602
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: little bit longer, but I think he's going to be

603
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: by far the better picture. But Emanaga, you know, we

604
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: talked about this so many times a couple of years

605
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: ago before the draft season started that I thought he

606
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: Monaga was the better return on investment, and he was

607
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: last year, and then last year when Yamamoto's draft stock

608
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: came down a little bit. I said, Okay, now it's

609
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: time to buy on Yamamoto because Yamamoto is going to

610
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: be the better pitcher. But I don't know if there's

611
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: anybody in the rankings last year that was lower on

612
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: Sazaki than I was. I saw a lot of things

613
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: in the tape that I didn't like about Sazaki. I was, well,

614
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I have to battle that.

615
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: I think we got to go.

616
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: I hate I hate it.

617
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: I'd yeah, but I thought for work in process and progress,

618
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: and he should have ended up in the minor leagues

619
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: to start the year, but they didn't want to do

620
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: it because obviously what they're paying.

621
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: What I think is interesting when you just you can't

622
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: like completely compare a Mayan Ponts, but when you look

623
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: at values, like, let's also look at the contract for

624
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: am I am I had a contract that has incentives

625
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: to get to eighty innings, ninety innings. That's a weird

626
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: incentive of trust that you know, if AMI's reverse slider

627
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: and the fastball and that and if it does work

628
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: and you don't see a major degradation from you know,

629
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: a new from a state side ball to where he

630
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 3: was and he's awesome. Maybe this isn't a question, but like,

631
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: if he has some struggles and they don't trust him

632
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: to eat a bunch of innings, Cody Ponce might be

633
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: a player that just straight up one for one overvalues him.

634
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: If he ends up having like a twenty eight percent

635
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: k percentage and picks up thirteen fourteen wins and has

636
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: the sub four era, Pons outside the top four hundred

637
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: might just straight up be more valuable than am I.

638
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: And the only reason I bring those two up is

639
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: because you put them both in the like in your

640
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: in the book is like the question marks or whatever

641
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: that Ponce I think has more value based on how

642
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: far back he is where there's some big questions with him.

643
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: Well, and Ponce has already you know, played the Major

644
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: League's been through that that world, in that universe too.

645
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: It's you know, there's no language barrier. There's so many,

646
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: so many idiosyncrasies that come into these guys, and their

647
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: adjustment period ponds to me is like if I was

648
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: trying to comp him to like what I want him

649
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: to be in the middle, like when he's all growing

650
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: up in the major leagues, what I wanted to be

651
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm wanting to be lance Lynne. That's what I wanted

652
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: to be, Like a big guy here. It is come

653
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: get it kind of pitcher, and I think he could

654
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: be that. Joe Rico, you're the Blue Jays guy. What

655
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: was your reaction to the Pond signing.

656
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: I think it's fine when these guys come over from me.

657
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not exciting, Joe A. Rico, that's that? That

658
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: was That was like mild sauce at Taco Bell. Baby,

659
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: that's nothing you gave us.

660
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: Just now's tired because he spent all of his time

661
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: fighting everybody that didn't like Dylan Ce signing. He wasted

662
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 3: all of his energy on define.

663
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: I like the Dylan Ce signing. A guy who makes

664
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: thirty starts every year, what a concept. Let's invest in

665
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: that guy.

666
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: When Dylan is just raising the American League Cy Young

667
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: Award this year, we'll revisit.

668
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Oh that, let's not get that great.

669
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm getting shaky here. But Cody Ponce. The thing with

670
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: Cody Ponce is that he was in Japan in twenty

671
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. Japan is

672
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: considered a closer equivalent to about triple A in Korea

673
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: usually is considered closer to the double A. He was

674
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: pretty bad in Japan and especially in twenty twenty four

675
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: no strikeouts six seven to two era, getting blown up

676
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: a one sixty one whip. He goes to Korea, goes

677
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: down a level and absolutely dominates. And we have seen

678
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: some success stories of guys coming over in year one

679
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: and from Korea and doing really well. Eric Fetti a

680
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: couple of years ago was fantastic. Miles Michliss in his

681
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: first couple of years was really good before he became

682
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: a bit of a punchline. Merle Kelly has been good

683
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: pretty much every year since he's come over.

684
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: So there are success stories.

685
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: How is the comp I was thinking, yeah, there are.

686
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Definitely success stories from Korea. I think we can expect. Honestly,

687
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: the projections seem pretty accurate to me. About a four ERA,

688
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: maybe a one two three whip with some decent strikeouts.

689
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: I think he can carry that over a little bit.

690
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: But we got to remember he was his poor in

691
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: Japan eighteen percent STRICO rate getting blown up. I don't

692
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: think that he is going to be an ACE or

693
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: anything close to it in the majors, but he can be.

694
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: A serviceable number four, and Dwells's point.

695
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: Where he's getting drafted, there's nothing but value there, So

696
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm interested from a fantasy point of view. From the

697
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: chase perspective, I think he's a solid number five starter.

698
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: It muddies the waters with Jose Burrios and what they

699
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: do there now, but it's a good problem to have.

700
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: You've got more pitching depth, and he's a guy who

701
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: I think can throw thirty starts, because that's who the

702
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: Blue Jays target. They don't go after guys who are

703
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: going to make sixteen starts. Every guy in that rotation

704
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: can pitch thirty two times, and I think Ponce's is

705
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: similarly gifted in that sense.

706
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: All right, very good, very good. All right, So some

707
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: good voice of reasoning there from Joel Rico. I like that.

708
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Very rare. Let's get to it is rare, but I

709
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: like it. Look, it's a new year, it's a new

710
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: yu Rico. Let's talk about it. Next guy up for

711
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: me and my final pick here before we get to

712
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: the guy we all agreed on. Ninety fourth pitcher on

713
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: the rankings on Fantasy pros three h four also quite

714
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: free right now on the NFBC scale is Logan Henderson.

715
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: And you'll say, well, Logan Henderson doesn't necessarily have a

716
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: spot right now. Well, maybe we get a Freddy Perlt

717
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: trade and that changes things. Maybe we get a Jacob

718
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Mizerowski injury. As I'm predicting all year, at some point

719
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna get that Tommy John it's coming. It's coming.

720
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: I know everybody hates me already, but that's okay. I'm

721
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: the heel here on the channel. That's all right. I'll

722
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: take all the heat. But I'll say this. I think

723
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: he's a more complete pitcher at the station is development

724
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: than Miserowski is. I think he's a better return on

725
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: investment than Miserowski is. And maybe this is a hot

726
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: take for some people. It's not trying to knock Jacob Mizerowski.

727
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: His velocity is dazzling. It's very exciting, it's sexy, it's cool,

728
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: it's it's all the things that TLC wanted to be

729
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: in the mid to late nineties. But I will say

730
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: this about Jacob Mizerowski. I still am concerned with the

731
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: physical body type, the repetition of his mechanics. I'm still

732
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: worried that the walk rate still gets away from him

733
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. You go back to Logan Henderson. What

734
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: I love about him is that in the minor league's

735
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: over a good sample size right now, sixty games in

736
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: the minor league, two hundred fifty innings, that walk rate

737
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: two point five walks per nine, the K rate eleven

738
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: point five. Last year at Triple A it was ten

739
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: point one. He was fantastic. He was ten and four

740
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: last year in fifteen minor league starts, he had a

741
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: three to five nine ERA. He came up, made a

742
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: handful of starts for the Brewers and he was awesome.

743
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: He was undefeated, awesome, made five starts he was three

744
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: and oh with a one to seven eight ERA. Now,

745
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: look that's not gonna hold. He had a sub one whip.

746
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: And even in the minor leagues, over those starts that

747
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: he made over seventy seven innings, he had a one

748
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: point one zero whip. So last year through just under

749
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: one hundred innings, I think Logan Henderson ends up becoming

750
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: a guy that you see this year making an impact

751
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: in that rotation for the Brewers. And we all know

752
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: the Brewers are gonna be a hyper competitive team. That's

753
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: who they are. They have a great manager, they have

754
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: a really good infrastructure. I think Logan Henderson is another

755
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: one of these guys that's going to come in and

756
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: make a huge impact. You saw with some of these

757
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: guys like Patrick and Quinn Priest are all impacted last year. Right,

758
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: They're so good to get contributions from within and picking

759
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: guys up off the waiver wire and making acquisitions. Right,

760
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: I think They've got a gem here sitting and just

761
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: waiting to blossom. And I think Logan Henderson's gonna be

762
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: that guy. So I want him for free and I

763
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: want to put him on my roster because I do

764
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: believe at some point he makes fifteen to twenty starts

765
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: with the big club, and I think they're gonna be impactful,

766
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: and I think there's upside for even more of that. Now,

767
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: we tried to get our tenth guy, and we had

768
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: two guys that we were debating between, going back and

769
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: forth of who we were going to agree on, and

770
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: we ended up landing on Ryan Pepio. Now, Ryan Pepio

771
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 1: last year, solid season. Now, he did get into some

772
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: problems there later in the season. If you go and

773
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: look at the game log. Obviously the second half of

774
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: the year a four eight nine ERA after a three

775
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: three eight ERA to start the year, So the last

776
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: eleven starts, maybe you could say it's fatigue. July he

777
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: had a five ERA, then things bounced back over five

778
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: August starts with a three two five ERA. But then

779
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: in September not too great either. That ERA went to

780
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: six five to two over those three starts. But we

781
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: love what Pepio brings. He has good control, good strikeout potential.

782
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Once again, Joe Rico a guy moving back to Tampa

783
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: into that picture friendly environment. I think this is one

784
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: of the best reasons to buy back in on Ryan Pepio.

785
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Even though there were some moments of I think peaks

786
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: and valleys in twenty twenty five.

787
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have hoped for a few more strikeouts.

788
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: I want to hope for, you know, the walk crate

789
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: to be a little bit better. But at the end

790
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: of the day, he gave you a three eight six

791
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: ERA one sixteen whip over almost one hundred and seventy innings.

792
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: And what we've seen from him at every place he's

793
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: been in the majors, whether it's been as a starter,

794
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: as a reliever, Los Angeles, Tampa, he's always had success.

795
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: We're at almost four hundred innings about three five four

796
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: Era one fourteen whip. I just drafted him actually this morning.

797
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm in a slow draft. I took him at pick

798
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: one forty four as my SP three, and I feel

799
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: really really good about it. Going back to the trop

800
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: should be something that I think it just helps their

801
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: entire staff this year, and he was somebody interestingly it

802
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: didn't really affect him so much last year three forty

803
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: one home ERA four thirty eight on the road. But

804
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's gonna complain about going back to

805
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: a pitcher of f family park, especially for a guy

806
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: with a one point four homer nine last year. So

807
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm all in on Pepio. And actually, when we did

808
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: our show in Arizona and we brought on different people

809
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: around the industry to highlight their favorite targets, he was

810
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: Paul Sports' favorite pitching targets. So a lot of people

811
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: are interested in Pepio. I imagine the price will continue

812
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: to trend up a little.

813
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Bit, all right, your thoughts Welsh on Ryan Pepio, Since

814
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: is the guy that we all seem to like and

815
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: we think not only has a solid floor, but there's

816
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: still a little bit of room for him to grow

817
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: and even mature too, into a better environment. Making half

818
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: of his starts back in the old ballpark in Tampa.

819
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the big portion of it. You know,

820
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: he struggled a bit against righties because he was throwing

821
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: his slider a bit more, and his slider's getting hit

822
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more this year. But I think a

823
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: big portion of it is, you know, you're like, hey,

824
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: look at the second half. Things get bad, blah blah blah.

825
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: It's like, well, summer months, you get summer months in

826
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: a minor league ballpark. That's not fantastic. Same thing that

827
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: a's are dealing with. The ball's going to start flying that. Yeah,

828
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: he had a run full run differential between his home

829
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 3: essentially between his home and Rodya Ray. I think he's

830
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: got a really good arsenal of stuff. I'd like to

831
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 3: see maybe the cutter uptick a little bit more. He

832
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: threw it about one percent more from five point eight

833
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: to six point nine this past year. Maybe if he

834
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: throws that a little bit more, that can end up

835
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: making that slider a little bit more effective, because you know,

836
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he essentially becomes a I don't want to

837
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: call him like a two pitch pitcher versus like lefties

838
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: or anything like that, but you know, it's like ten

839
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: percent on the slider, ten percent on the cutter. I'd

840
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: love to see the mix change a little bit, but

841
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: I love his stuff. I think he can go deep

842
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: into games. He's been kind of the forefront of a

843
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: trade talk. I mean, if Kutel Marte were to go

844
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: to the Rays, it was going to be for Ryan Pepio.

845
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: So a lot of teams see him as like a

846
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: front line starter. I don't think this is one that

847
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: like he's going to be a top fifteen starting pitcher

848
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: in fantasy or anything like that, but in the one fifties,

849
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: he's absolutely a good value. I can one hundred percent

850
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: see him jumping up and tallying one hundred and eighty

851
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: five innings this year, thirteen fourteen wins, and you know,

852
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 3: probably pushing like a nine k per nine a little

853
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: bit more.

854
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: So.

855
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: I like Pepio. I'd love for him to cut the

856
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: walks down a little bit, and I think he can

857
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: be even better. But he's definitely has some high upside.

858
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: I think to get a guy around the fiftieth sp

859
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: overall that you want to just leave in your rotation

860
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: in fantasy every week is pretty good value. I think.

861
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what Pepio brings you, where you're constantly

862
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: moving guys in and out and playing matchups in the

863
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: back end, you know, around that age of the fiftieth pitcher. Overall,

864
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Pepio is a pretty solid leave it, set it, forget

865
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: it kind of guy. Now, the guy that's got more

866
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: potential that all three of us really like, but we've

867
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: been debating on whether or not that was the right guy.

868
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: So those are the top ten in terms of the

869
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: undervalue that we were like, Okay, there's your three, my three,

870
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: his three, and then we got the one bonus guy.

871
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: But you know what, we're over chievers. We're gonna give

872
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: you another bonus guy. It's Emma she Han of the

873
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers. Emma she Hen a couple of years

874
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: ago was leading the minor leagues and strikeouts. Then he

875
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: had Tommy John and then last year came back and

876
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: he was brilliant for the Dodgers when he was getting

877
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: his opportunities. And of course the Dodgers' rotation because of

878
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Tyler Glass now and rookie Sazaki and some other issues

879
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: and injury got plenty of opportunities, and m at Shehn

880
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: ended up throwing seventy three innings for the big club.

881
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: We all know how good the Dodgers are. He was

882
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: six and three over that. He made twelve starts, fifteen appearances. Overall,

883
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: he had a K per nine almost at eleven. The

884
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: two point seven walk per nine, you know, right on

885
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: that border line, you know, like to be just keep

886
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: it under the three there, young man, and things will

887
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: be good. But he was dominant all the XDRA, that

888
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: FIP numbers, everything was brilliant. It's just whether or not

889
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: he gets under the crack at this rotation. Does injury

890
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: have to open that up for him? I still love

891
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: she Han. I'm where Welsh is. My concern is even

892
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: at one thirty six overall in the ADP, it's baking

893
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: in like he has basically got to start almost I

894
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: don't want to say day one, but like Tyler Glass,

895
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: now we know is never going to make thirty starts.

896
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: They're paying Roki Sazaki a lot of money. Everything that

897
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I've read, everything I've heard that they want to give

898
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: him another crack of this rotation so Welsh, why are

899
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: you so confident that she Han is going to be

900
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: a big contributor this year? And give me a number

901
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: of starts you think is going to make for the

902
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: big club.

903
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, I mean in the big portion that

904
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: the funny circling of Emicican was U. Joe Alrico had

905
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: him and I was like, oh, I would have put

906
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: him on my list if if you didn't Rico, and

907
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 3: then he's like, all right, well maybe you can have him.

908
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: And then I said, well, maybe let's put him as

909
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: the top ten. And the piece of PA came in

910
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: from the top rope and was like, nay, I don't

911
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 3: really buy it because I don't buy the inning. So

912
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: that's why he's in the non disagree. And I think

913
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm the highest of any of you guys. Even though

914
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: Joe put him on there, I would have put him on.

915
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: He was willing to give him up. I buy it,

916
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: but you do you don't think he's gonna start.

917
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: It's it's look. As long as the ADP stays where

918
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: it is, I'm in. But if it starts to rise

919
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: because people are speculating, like I said, I just think

920
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: that the Dodgers are gonna if the Dodgers give Rokie

921
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: two months in the rotation and Glassnell was healthy for

922
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: the first two months, where's that leaf she Han? That's

923
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: my question. And that's a scenario that could play out.

924
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I mean it absolutely could, like any of

925
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: that could play out. But right now, Emma she Hen

926
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: has got the rotation spot. Rookie was a reliever on

927
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: the back half of last year. They got to spend

928
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: this offseason figuring out how they can make him a starter. Now,

929
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: how can they make it work. They love to throw

930
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: out six man rotations. That's our favorite thing to do.

931
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: That eats into MGI h In a little bit. I

932
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: don't see a scenario where you're going to stifle a

933
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 3: guy like m andg in right now. He had a

934
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: two A two era this past year. I mean, as

935
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: you were saying, I mean looking here, it was five

936
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: of his last six starts, the guy gave up a

937
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: total Actually, let me just do this, in his last

938
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: six starts, he gave up a total of four earned

939
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: runs over those six. The last start wasn't really a start.

940
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: It was like one inning. But if you want to

941
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: take the other one in there, five starts of four

942
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: total earned runs given up. He was striking guys out

943
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: hit a thirty percent K percentage this past year seven

944
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: point six walk. I mean you're looking at a twenty

945
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: three knus walk percentage. That that's a number. It's a

946
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 3: valuable number to look at, and a lot of people

947
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: are if you want to be like oh eras dings

948
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: or K percentage, all right, do K minus walk percentage.

949
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: That's an elite twenty three percent number expected Era was

950
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 3: at three. His stuff looked phenomenal. I see no reason,

951
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: money wise or not experimentally to take em and she

952
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: Hehn out of the rotation. Now there's been rumors about

953
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: maybe he would be at the forefront of some type

954
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: of a trade. I think right now the rotation is Otani, Yamamoto, Glass,

955
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: now Snell and she Hen, and I think that's the

956
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: end of the story. If they want to go six

957
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: man rotation, it's because Sasaki is added to it. I

958
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: just don't see she see Shehn coming out of this.

959
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: But the nice thing and why there's a value is

960
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: I think some of this is baked in. I think

961
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 3: the only way she Hen moves up in value is

962
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: if the Dodgers say what I'm saying that he is

963
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: locked in. He's a starter. Nothing's going to change that.

964
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: But we're still also implementing if it's a six man

965
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: rotation that does take starts off and cuts a tiny

966
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: bit into the value. I think she Han has a

967
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: ton of upside Dodgers win run support, and I think

968
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm very confident that he's going to stand in the rotation.

969
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: So that's why I love him. I want to draft.

970
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: He's one of my must draft players this year, and

971
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk myself out because

972
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: of Roki Suzaki.

973
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: I don't want to either. I just wanted to stay

974
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: cost effective right now. I think it is. It's just

975
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: whether or not the Dodgers want to recoup more of

976
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: their investment in Roki and Glass down to a certain

977
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: degree as well, I agree with you in principle. Just

978
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: for the record, she should be in the rotation. He

979
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: deserves it. He'd bitch good enough to be there, and

980
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: Roki didn't show you anything last year. Joe Rico, I

981
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: want to get your take on this. So where are

982
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: you at with him? She Because I know it's another

983
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: one you're high on as well. All three of us

984
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: like him. It's just whether or not we want to

985
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: recommend him going into the year at the ADP. That's

986
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: the big question.

987
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: So the first thing, let me start with Roki, because

988
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't think the money really matters. First of all,

989
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: the Dodgers don't really care about money. But with Roki,

990
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he got like a massive like it

991
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: was kind of like a rookie scale contract if I'm

992
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: remembering correctly, with arbitration years, and it's not like he's

993
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: making twenty or thirty million dollars unless I'm mistaken there,

994
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: but I think he's making something like four or five

995
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: million dollars. So I don't know that the money aspect

996
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: is going to factor into it so so much. I

997
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: think the Dodgers, of anything, what could factor into it

998
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: is just they don't care about the regular season, and

999
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, the Yamamotos, the Snells. The

1000
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: glass now is the Otawne's will be slow played to

1001
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: some extent. Yamamoto's going to the WBC after one hundred

1002
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: and seventy five innings season where he was throwing complete

1003
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: games every other day. In the playoffs, there's gonna be

1004
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: some wear and tear there. We know Blakes now, Blake

1005
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: Snell has been the guy for his whole career who

1006
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: cannot get to one hundred and eighty innings. Tyler Glass,

1007
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: now you can write him in for one hundred and

1008
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: ten right now. And Otani. I don't think they're gonna

1009
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: let Otani go one hundred and eighty or anything even

1010
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: close to it. So with every guy in the rotation,

1011
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: there are some question marks about their health, not really

1012
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: about their talent, but about how often they're gonna be

1013
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: on the field and how often the Dodgers are gonna

1014
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: let them take the field when it doesn't really matter.

1015
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: They're gonna make the playoffs. They only care about October anyway.

1016
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: With a guy like Emmit Shean, the talent is so

1017
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: through the roof at twenty five years old. Every number

1018
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: for everybody who looks at the stuff like we do

1019
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: is off the charts. All of the era estimators are great,

1020
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: The strikeout rate is good. He does walk too many

1021
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: guys stuff Darling. Everything clicks, and even if he doesn't

1022
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: make all those starts in April and May, maybe they

1023
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: do start the season with their regular rotation. There will

1024
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: be times throughout the year. A lot of times I

1025
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: think where Imachin is going to be relied upon, and

1026
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: I think we're looking at twenty five starts is kind

1027
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: of a minimum here and in those starts, if he's

1028
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: giving you anything close to what we saw last year,

1029
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: it could be pretty special. But I'm just curious, Joe,

1030
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: if you found anything about the Rokie deal, because I

1031
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: don't think he's making add.

1032
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: We're both right, so you had a signing bonus of

1033
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: almost seven million dollars. You're right in terms of his

1034
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: annual right now it's a lower scale, but the possibility

1035
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: with the extension, it could end up being a two

1036
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract if he hits all the incentives it.

1037
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: So we're both right. There's a lot of theoretical investment

1038
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: and monetary investment into Zaki getting right, and we'll see

1039
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: if he does. The one thing is for certain. We

1040
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: all like EMag Hand, So give us your take too

1041
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel. Are you in on mag Hand

1042
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: at this current ADP? Do you need it to fall

1043
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: back a little bit or if it goes higher? Are

1044
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: you out on? She hen? Twenty five starts? That'd be amazing.

1045
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: I'd love any pitcher to make twenty five stars Jil

1046
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: Rico as a bass. Are you kidding me? Where can

1047
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: I sign a bat at?

1048
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: The bat hasn't at eighteen By the way, they have

1049
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: forty games pitch eighteen starts. I think that's underplaying it,

1050
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: but I understand some of the hesitations for it. One

1051
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty innings is where the bat's currently putting

1052
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: M and she hen at.

1053
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,719
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