1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off. Now. Biggest story of the day 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: still the wildfires tearing through the Los Angeles area. Some 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: are somewhat contained, some are not very well contained at all. 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: More damage going on, Scenes of apocalyptic devastation in a 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: whole range of areas kind of north of West Hollywood area, 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: and this is north of Beverly Hills. It's stunning, it's 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: heartbreaking to see what's going on. And already you can 9 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: tell that there's an outrage that is only growing with 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: time as they begin to see the full extent. I 11 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: think not just of the damage, but of the ineptitude 12 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: in the response. Play La Mayor Karen Bass has returned 13 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: from her trip to Ghana, and she is getting a 14 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of attention right now. First of all, I don't 15 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: know if you saw this, but there's at least well 16 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: she's trying right now to tell everybody that she's on 17 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: it and she's doing a great job, and that's not 18 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: working out for her very well. This is cut one 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: here she is explaining that this was a perfect storm. 20 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: Play it. 21 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: Angelino's cooperated, the community stood together. They evacuated and Angelinos 22 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: should continue to proceed with caution. Air operations are continuing 23 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: rapidly in the Palisades, in Silmar and across our region. 24 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: We continue to see our heroes from our LA firefighters 25 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: and from personnel families' neighbors from across the county and 26 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: the state. 27 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: We thank you. 28 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: However we can to confront a big, one level firestorm. 29 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Historic winds and extensive drought have created a perfect storm 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: that has driven people from their homes and have taken 31 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: people's homes, and that has taken people's lives. 32 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: Now, one thing we can know for sure, Clay, there 33 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: will be no accountability whatsoever offered by the people that 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: are in charge of this response, including Mayor Karen Bass. 35 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: There's also been a lot of focus on the very 36 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Dei Heavy Fire Department recruiting efforts of recent years. They 37 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: don't have enough firefighters, they don't have enough in the 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: budget for the firefighting they need to do. Karen Bass cut. 39 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: You don't ever think about Democrats in a place like 40 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: California doing a lot of budget cutting, but they somehow 41 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: managed to cut one thing that you really don't want 42 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: cut over twenty million dollars from the fire budget. Now 43 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: they're effectively clay just turning around and saying saying, well, 44 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: it's a really rough set of circumstances. The water has 45 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: run out because people need so much water. Not much 46 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: we can do about that. And our firefighters are brave, 47 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: and you know that's the way this is supposed to go. 48 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: People are outraged all over LA and all over the 49 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: country about this. You had Donald Trump, for one, soon 50 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: to be President Trump once again. This is what he 51 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: wrote on truth Social One of the best and most 52 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: beautiful parts of the United States of America is burning 53 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: down to the ground. It's ashes and Gavin Nouscomb should resign. 54 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: This is all his fault. And then there's more here 55 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Sarah Foster, who is the daughter like a Hollywood producer, 56 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: mogul or something. I don't really know this lady, but 57 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: we pay the highest taxes in California, she wrote. Our 58 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: fire hydrants were empty, our vegetation was overgrown, brush not cleared. 59 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Reservoirs were emptied by our governor because tribal leaders wanted 60 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: to save fish. Our fire department budget was cut by 61 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: our mayor. But thank god, drug addicts are getting their 62 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: drug kits. Mayor of la and Gavin Newsom resign. Your 63 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: policies have ruined our state. 64 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: People are upset, Clay, no doubt, and they should be 65 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: because they made the poor choice. Aid Mayor Rick Caruso, 66 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: whose shopping center is still standing in Pacific Palisades like 67 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: the only thing that's still standing because he's competent enough 68 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: to figure out how to protect his assets from the 69 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: fire even while they can't get water in the fire hydrants. 70 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: And I want to play just a couple of cuts. 71 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: And I think this is important because this is where 72 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: DEI and a consequence free election cycle leads you. It 73 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: leads to people who cannot do the job, and it 74 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: reveals itself that they cannot do the job in times 75 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: of crisis when there's actual decisions to be made, and 76 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: they're complex in nature and they're multifaceted. I want you 77 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: to listen to a couple of these things that have 78 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: gone viral. First of all, this was before that statement. 79 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back to the statement that we played 80 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: a second ago. But Karen bass Is asked by a 81 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: Sky News reporter after she finally lands back from Ghana 82 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: a series of questions. This has gone megaviral. Listen to 83 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: cut three. 84 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while 85 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: their homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire 86 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 4: department budget by millions of dollars? Madamlare have you nothing 87 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to say to 88 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: the citizens today? Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent. 89 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor? Have you absolutely 90 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: nothing to say to the citizens today? You're dealing with 91 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: this disaster, no apollo for them? Do you think you 92 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding? Back home, 93 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: Madam Mayor, just a few words for the citizens today 94 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: as you returned to deal. 95 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: With fantastaphy that you can hear the door opening box. 96 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: She's refusing to answer any questions as this reporter is 97 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: following along asking her questions. Now, this is to me 98 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: indicative of her inability to handle the job. Listen to 99 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: cut two. She's reading off of a prepared statement. Buck, 100 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: you haven't seen this yet. I want you to be 101 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: able to hear it. I bet most of our audience 102 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 3: has neither seen nor heard this. Listen to Karen Bass 103 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: try to address what citizens of Los Angeles should be 104 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: doing both with a website and just I mean she 105 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: could barely read. 106 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 5: Listen to this right now. 107 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: If you need help, emergency information, resources and shelter is available. 108 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: All of this can be found at URL Los Angeles Together. 109 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 2: Is how we will get through this through the heroicism 110 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: of our firefighters. 111 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Okay, she doesn't seem to know, Buck, what a freaking 112 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: web address is. I don't even remember the last time 113 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: I heard someone say you can go to URL. I mean, 114 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: come on, is httpwww? 115 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 5: Like? Come on? 116 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: And then has she never seen the word heroism in print? 117 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a super complicated word to read, 118 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: and yet it's like, play that one more time, just 119 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: for the utter incompetence. Here, listen closely. This is she's 120 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: trying to tell people who are in need where they 121 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: need to go. This is important info. This is what 122 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: it sounded like. 123 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: Right now, If you need help, emergency information, resources and 124 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: shelter is available. All of this can be found at 125 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: URL Los Angeles Together. Is how we will get through 126 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: this through the heroicism of our firefighters. 127 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: Buck, I mean, come on. 128 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: This is in addition to being in Ghana, which look, 129 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: I'll give her a pass on Ghana. She should never 130 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: have been there. It didn't make any sense. Presumably she 131 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: didn't know a fire was going to start, but it 132 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: is indicative of just like this sort of celebrity nature 133 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: of her tenure, that she's going to things that don't 134 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: matter because she doesn't have the ability to do things 135 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: that do matter. And then she finally has a crucible 136 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: situation where information and communication is that it's utmost important, 137 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: and she says you need to go to URL to 138 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: get help. 139 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know she was a big 140 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: fan of Castro, Fidel Castro just a few years back. 141 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: And I think she even travels. 142 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: She's traveled to Cuba, she has deep ties to No 143 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: It's amazing how often this happens, isn't it? Where these 144 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: people have been to like Russia, it's for their honeymoons 145 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: and like Gonna, I was just gonna say, man, whenever 146 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: you're looking at the worst mayors, the worst senators, the 147 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: people that choose to spend their. 148 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Time in in truly communist countries, right, I mean people 149 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: that people like like build a Blasio who went to 150 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Nicaragua to be with the Sandinistas, and. 151 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: Tim Wall spent to China like nineteen times or whatever. 152 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: The heck was Communist China, Bernie Sanders honeymoon in the 153 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: Soviet Union. Who honeymoon's in the Soviet Union? You can't 154 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: even get tissue. 155 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: But even married in Russia want want a honeymoon in 156 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: the Soviet Union. 157 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 6: But you'll notice this though, that these these lunatic leftists, 158 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 6: they all have this in their past, or not all 159 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 6: of them, but whenever they have this in their past, 160 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 6: it's such a it's such a giveaway of what they 161 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 6: really think and how they how they really are, I mean, 162 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 6: what their their baseline ideology is. 163 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: She's not somebody who is competent. But you have to 164 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: remember California is the state that gave us Kamala Harris 165 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: as the presidential nominee for the Democrats, but also as 166 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: a state attorney general and as a center. It's a 167 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: one party state. And so if Democrat decide that they're 168 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: only going to elect for a certain position a black female, uh, 169 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: there's they can do it. And they do, and and 170 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: I think that their qualifications for the job are often 171 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: a secondary at best consideration. They view the Dei victory 172 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: as the most important victory that they can get with 173 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: some of these roles and people are paying the priceless nun. 174 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten into the head of the fire department, right, 175 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: it isn't the head of the. 176 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a lesbian, which is appears to be her 177 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: only qualification according to all the media coverage I've seen. 178 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: But remember Buck as bad as that Karen Bass. She 179 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: was a finalist for VP ye. Remember because Biden so 180 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: boxed himself in by effectively letting it be known one 181 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 3: that he was going to take a woman and then 182 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: secondly that he was going to take a black woman. 183 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: There were like three black women that he was considering, Kamala, 184 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: Karen Bass, and and our favorite Georgia Governor Stacy Abrams. 185 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: Of course governor is in quotation marks the fake governor 186 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: of Georgia. Those are like the only three people she 187 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: considered and she and maybe there was one or he 188 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: considered one more. The woman who got smoked in the 189 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: Senate race down in Florida. I don't even remember her name. 190 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: She was a congress person, I think. But Karen Bass 191 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: was a finalist to be Vice President of the United States. 192 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: As bad as Kamala is, Karen Bass may be worse. 193 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: And look when you combine Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, 194 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: you have maybe the worst mayor governor combo that any 195 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: major city and state has ever had. I mean in 196 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: terms of competence and what they meant to the state 197 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: and the city in general. 198 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Are you telling me that you don't buy Gavin Newsom's 199 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: this is about more than politics the politics. 200 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: I think Gavin Newsom would not be a bad guy 201 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: to have a glass of a rose with and look 202 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: out over the vineyard, maybe even watch a football game with. 203 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: I think every decision he has made as governor just 204 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: about has been wrong and made California worse than it 205 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: would have been if he had gone full Costanza buck 206 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: and just done the opposite of everything that he actually did. 207 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: It's all part of a pattern too. Remember when there 208 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: were those photos of all the Amazon packages that were 209 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: being stolen off of trains and Gavin Newsom showed up 210 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: and he's like, what the heck is going on in 211 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: this state? Huh, who's in charge here? All these It 212 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: was like a giant field of theft by the trains. 213 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: And he's showing up now at this devastation from these fires, 214 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a whole lot to add too 215 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: much of anything other than just we shouldn't make this 216 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: about politics. Should make this about politics anytime some you know, 217 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: lacko is shoots somebody somewhere in the country, Gavin Newsom 218 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: wants to confiscate everybody's ar fifteens. I mean, what do 219 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: you mean, don't politicize this. This isn't about a political diversion. 220 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: This is about accountability. 221 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: Also, well, you might not want to politicize the fires. 222 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 5: That stinks. 223 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: Fires happen, but how you respond to the fires is 224 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: about competence and it's the very essence of your job 225 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: as a politician. In the same way that we said, look, hey, hurricanes. 226 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: Are going to happen. 227 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: I don't think you should politicize the fact that a 228 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,359 Speaker 3: hurricane's coming. But if everybody does a crappy job responding 229 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: to the hurricane, yes, that should be a political issue 230 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: because the very standard of political office is are you 231 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: competent to run it? And frankly, right now, at the 232 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: mayoral level and the governor level, the state of California 233 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: unfortunately has made disastrous decisions and I think they're reaping 234 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: the results of what they did. And a lot of 235 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: times politicians don't matter. We found out in COVID. They 236 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: can matter a lot. They've not matter a lot in 237 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: times of crisis like this. Imagine living in a country 238 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: under constant assault from all sides, having to endure thousands 239 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: of missile attacks, evacuating to bomb shelters on a regular basis, 240 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: overall threat of tear always omnipresent, no matter where you are. 241 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: That's what it's like living in Israel. I was there 242 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: last month. You can only imagine you're driving alongside the 243 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: road and they say, yeah, that's where if we get 244 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: bomb alerts on our phones, everybody pulls off and you 245 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: just get in the late go wait in the bomb 246 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: shelter until the bombs have passed. That happens all over 247 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: the country everywhere, because Israel is constantly being attacked by 248 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: its enemies. And I walked all through the Old City 249 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: of Jerusalem, Armenian Square, Christian Square, a Muslim Square, and 250 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: also a Jewish Square, all of those religious faiths, all 251 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: in close proximity in the Old City. And look, I 252 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: went through all the kibbutz's, I went through the Nova film, 253 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: the Nova Music Festival, all of the places where there 254 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: were so many awful terror attacks. I saw the difference 255 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: that the IFCJ makes and continues to influence going forward. 256 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: I want you to join me and give support for Israel, 257 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: the Fellowship of Christians and Jews at support i f 258 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: CJ dot org. That's one word, support i f CJ 259 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: dot org. Your support of the i f CJ has 260 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: saved lives and answered prayers. Join me at support i 261 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: f CJ dot org. 262 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 5: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. 263 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 7: Reclaim your sanity with Clay and Buck. Find them on 264 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 7: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 265 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. One thing 266 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: that I don't think you generally hear from democrats one 267 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: is budget cut period, and you're not usually gonna hear 268 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: Democrats in the state of California suggests that a budget 269 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter for the situation because they usually want 270 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: more money. Right, they want more money. But Karen Bass, 271 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: the mayor, returned from her her mission critical visit to Ghana. 272 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: She has returned from it. Hopefully everything's okay in Ghana, 273 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: and and she has return to tell everybody that the 274 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: was it twenty three million? Clay, I've seen different numbers 275 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: on it, but twenty. 276 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: Plus seventeen million. 277 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: I mean, like is the number that I've seen the most, 278 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, some people have reported twenty twenty three. 279 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: There's been a bunch floating around, right. 280 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: We'll say roughly twenty million. Roughly twenty million dollars. Now, 281 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I understand the fire budgets a lot bigger than that, 282 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: But the point is priorities, right and strategic thinking. Karen Bass, 283 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: the mayor, wants you to know that the budget has 284 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: no impact on what we're seeing right now, play twenty seven. 285 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Can you address the criticism now over the budget issue 286 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: and the slashing seventeen million dollars? 287 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: You know, I think if you go back and look 288 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: at the reductions that were made, there were no reductions 289 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: that were made that would have impacted the situation that 290 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: we were dealing with over the last couple of days. 291 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: And then there was a little bit there was a 292 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: little bit of confusion because money was allocated to be 293 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: distributed later on, which was actually going to supports and 294 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: other parts of the fire department that were distributed. 295 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: A little later. 296 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: So I think it's most important to understand that we 297 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: were in tough budgetary times. Everybody knew that, but that 298 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: the impact of our budget really did not impact what 299 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: we've been going through over the last few days. Again, 300 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: back to the unprecedented windstorm when at such ferocity that 301 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: we haven't seen in years. 302 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Okay Clay, she's basically saying, the wind is so crazy. 303 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: Nobody could have prepared for this. We were as well 304 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: prepared as anybody could be. I mean, reading between the lines, 305 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: I think that's our position. Meanwhile, the estimates are already 306 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: that this fire could cause over fifty billion dollars. These 307 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: fires could cause fifty billion dollars in damages, which would 308 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: be the most costly in financial terms fires in the 309 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: history of the state of California. 310 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to hear there's nothing we could do. And 311 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: if it were a tsunami that suddenly swept into LA 312 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: and created billions of dollars in damages, I think a 313 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 3: lot of you and maybe me as well, would sit 314 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: back and say, boy, you know, there hasn't been a 315 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: tsunami hit LA in recorded history. Maybe it's foreseeable that 316 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: it could happen in a five hundred year process, but 317 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: it's hard to plan for this. Wildfires happen all the time. 318 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: It's imminently foreseeable exactly what has happened could have happened. 319 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: And I think many people are looking around and they're saying, Okay, 320 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: the budget factors in the fire hydrants not working doesn't 321 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: seem ideal. The fact that there have been obstacles to 322 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: creating the opportunity for there to be more water for 323 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: the LA area based on climate change activist behavior. The 324 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: fact that they have not cleaned up underbrushed also because 325 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: of climate change activists who have argued that somehow that 326 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: was going to be destructive to the habitat of animals. 327 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: And I'll just point this out. Yesterday we talk to 328 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: Adam Carolla. There are not enough fire department officials. There 329 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: are headlines everywhere that they decided they had too many 330 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: white firefighters, and that seems less than ideal. To Buck's point, 331 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: and I would echo it. When you're wearing full firefighting gear, 332 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: I don't know that anything matters other than whether you're 333 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: a good firefighter, because we can't even tell what the 334 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: race of a firefighter is. 335 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: Excuse me, Clay, hold on a second. Have we all 336 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: seen David Muir If you've missed this and we see this, 337 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: saw that David well speak because Clay's saying, once you 338 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: put the firefighter gear on, what's all that matters? 339 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: Clay? 340 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: Is it cinched at the waist? Is it showing that 341 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: v taper? David Muir ABC News is key guy for 342 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: ABC News, Right, he's the guy he did the debate 343 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: and remember he was horrible with Trump. Uh, there's there's 344 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: there's video. First of all, he's reporting and he's wearing 345 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: a fireman's jacket, which seems unnecessary. But he turns around 346 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: and he's got clothes pins on the back of the 347 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: fire jacket so that it can show his nice hourglass 348 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: figure on camera. 349 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 5: And he is getting a run as well as should 350 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 5: as well he should. 351 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: The whole idea of these Prima Donna newscasters showing up 352 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: and standing so they can get the backdrop of a 353 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: burning building in order to try to get the shot, 354 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: but then to put on the fire jacket. Decide the 355 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: fire jacket looks too thrumpy, so we're gonna have to 356 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: put on some clothes pins so that you look more 357 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: ripped in your fire jacket outfit. I mean, come on, 358 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: what a Prima Donna lunatic. But this is listen to 359 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: this buck, This is Adam Krola, who we had on yesterday. 360 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: We talked about the fact that he grew up in 361 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: La At nineteen years old, living at his mom's house, 362 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: he decided he needed a job, so he went into 363 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: the local fire department and put in an application and 364 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 3: they said, uh, oh, you're a white guy. You have 365 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: to come back in seven years. While he was standing 366 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: in line, there was a minority in line with him. 367 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 3: Listen to this testimony that he gave to the California 368 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: State Legislature. 369 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 8: I graduated North Hollow at high with the one point 370 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 8: seven GPA. 371 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: I could not find a job. 372 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 8: I walked to a fire station in North Hollywood. I 373 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 8: was nineteen. I was living in the garage of my 374 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 8: family home. My mom was on welfare and food stamps. 375 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 8: And I said, can I get a job as a fireman? 376 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 8: And they said no, because you're not black, Hispanic or 377 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 8: a woman. We'll see in about seven years. And I 378 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 8: went to a construction site in dug Ditches and picked 379 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 8: up garbage for the next seven years. 380 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 5: I got a letter in the. 381 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 8: Mail sent to my father's house saying, your time has 382 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 8: come to do the written exam for the La Fire Department. 383 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 8: I took it and I was standing in line, and 384 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 8: I had a young woman of color standing behind me line, 385 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 8: and I said, just out of curiosity, when did you 386 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 8: sign up to become a fire man? Because I did 387 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 8: it or a person seven years ago. And she said, Wednesday, 388 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 8: that is an example of my white privilege. 389 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how ridiculous, amazing, How ridiculous is that story? 390 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Our generation roughly speaking, you know, Clay me, people around 391 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: this age have have really seen the the run up 392 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: and the peak of of DEI stuff. You know, it 393 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: has occurred with our adult lives, you know, in in 394 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: tandem with us going into the marketplace, you know, the 395 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: job market. And and I think that there is so 396 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: much finally just frustration that has been able to be 397 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: properly uh you know, vented over this issue, but with 398 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: as part of Trump's victory, and and also in situations 399 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: like this, we're all sick and tired of being told 400 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: that when you have a focus on something that isn't 401 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: the important thing that an institution is supposed to do, 402 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: it does not detract from its focus. Do you know 403 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: what I like? You can't tell me DEI is a 404 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: mission critical thing for the fire department in LA But 405 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: we never took our eye off of firefighting. Well you did, 406 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: you had to. Yeah. 407 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 5: And also let me just say this. 408 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: I mean Adam Corolla was a like all district, all 409 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: state caliber football player in LA when he was growing up. 410 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 5: I know this. 411 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: He's like six ' two, six ' three. You know, 412 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: when he's nineteen years old, he's working construction. He's a big, 413 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: strong dude. Don't you want big strong dudes to be firemen? 414 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: Some of this dei stuff In the same way, like, 415 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: there are certain body types that are better to kick 416 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: ass than others. 417 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Right. 418 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: If I had to choose, like, Hey, who do you 419 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: want showing up at your house to try to rescue 420 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: people from a burning fire, my answer would be big dudes, right, 421 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: regardless of their race, because they can get into houses, 422 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: they can pick up people. They are able physically to 423 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: do things that smaller dudes typically and certainly smaller women cannot. 424 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: In other words, the physical nature of certain jobs does 425 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: suggest that they shouldn't be DEI laden. And what you 426 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: see is the moment there's an actual crisis, and most 427 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: of the time when a fireman gets. 428 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 5: A call, it is a crisis. 429 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: Right, You're showing up at legitimately a burning building, kicking indoors, 430 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 3: trying to save lives. The more serious the job is, 431 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: the more ridiculous it is to focus on DEI plane 432 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: flying surgeries, firemen things. When people's lives are on the line, 433 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: I want the baddest ass person who's best able to 434 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: do the job. I don't give a damn what they 435 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: look like. 436 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: You know, it's not just La obviously that has been 437 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: dealing with this on the DEI Fire Department, excuse me, guys, 438 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: fire department side of things. I think I get a 439 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: gold star just for fighting through the cold this week. 440 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that right now. It has been brutal. 441 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: Clay's been propping me up a bit, but let me 442 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: tell you, my whole head feels like it's gonna fall 443 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: off sometimes. Anyway, back to DEI. You know, New York 444 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: City Claim has had a huge, a huge problem with this, 445 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: stretching back for many years because they said that the 446 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: written exam that they used for the FDNY was racist. Yeah, 447 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: does anyone want to guess why the written exam for 448 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: the FDNY was racist? Not enough in the FDNYS Fire 449 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: Department in New York just agin everyone knows NYPD FDNY 450 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: is the fire department not enough black and Hispanic applicants passed? 451 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: That's it. It was an eighty five. This was in 452 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: use until two thousand and seven. Eighty five. Multiple choice 453 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: questions about firefighting, Okay, it would ask you questions like, 454 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, when to say may day, when to say 455 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: urgent over the walkie talkie, what kind of tool to 456 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: bring a car by tip missing, a car by blade, 457 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: a car by tip blade, aluminum oxide like firefighting stuff. 458 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: And they said it was rae. And not only did 459 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: they say it was racist, they had to appoint a 460 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: chief diversity officer for the FDNY. They paid back pay 461 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: millions of dollars to people who were never even firefighters 462 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: because they failed the exam. And now they've gotten you know, 463 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: they've replaced the exam with something that's probably like you know, 464 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: sign your name here. I mean, it's crazy, it's crazy. 465 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: This the the the doctrine of DEI and and you know, really, 466 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: what we've seen play out in so many places has 467 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: been so destructive, and and that's where I think people 468 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: are finally they've just everyone just had enough. It's like 469 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: I I promise you, it's not no one cares to 470 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: your point clay, what the color is of the firefighter 471 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: who is coming through the door when their house is 472 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: on fire to save them and their cat or their 473 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: kids or whatever. They're just they want the best, they 474 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: want the fastest response. They want them most competent fire 475 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: suppression tactics. They want you know, this is all like 476 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: and this is really central to the ethos of America 477 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: now in the Trump era. We want this back. We 478 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: just want the best people to do the things that 479 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: they have to be doing. I don't care if you 480 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: know my airline pilot is a one legged Eskimo, Like, 481 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: I don't care. 482 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: I just don't want the plane to crash. This is 483 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: from Pride website. The headline their coverage of the LA 484 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: fire headline, amid Palisades Fire, Los Angeles. His first LGBTQ 485 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: plus fire chief is proving lesbians get it done. Is 486 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: anybody out there in LA right now? I mean, this 487 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: is their headline Pride Amid I'm reading amid Palisades Fire, 488 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. His first LGBTQ plus fire chief is proving 489 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: lesbians get it done. There's zero percent containment of the 490 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: fires right now. Is anyone in elking around, even lesbians 491 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: or even lesbians in LA walking around right now given 492 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 3: high fives like yeah, we put those fires out. Nobody 493 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: puts fires out like lesbians. Not one person in LA, 494 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: even the lesbians, is bragging about the lesbian fire chiefs. 495 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: Performance so far. 496 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 3: This is what DEI gets us in competence and also 497 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: media praise of the incompetence, which is how DEI happens 498 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: in the first place. And thank the Lord that Kamala 499 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: Harris lost, because otherwise we would have had the next 500 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: four years of any time you criticize Kamala Harris, Oh 501 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: you're a sexist, Oh you're a racist. Maybe Kamala Harris 502 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: just can't do the job, would never actually have risen 503 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: to the level of these people's thoughts. 504 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: You want to put out the ask play for calls. 505 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: I bet we have people who are either current or 506 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: former firefighters who have seen this stuff in action or 507 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: were denied becoming a firefighter, becoming a firefighter in New York 508 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: because actually, really, you know, really hard by the numbers, 509 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: and if you have any experience of how these processes 510 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: have been skewed so that it's not about who's the 511 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: best at putting putting out the fire, it's like the 512 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: real the really straightforward job. How do we get the 513 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: best people for putting out fires, carrying people out of 514 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: burning buildings? You know, there's like a you gotta be 515 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: able to lift heavy things, got to move fast, and 516 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff. Take some of your calls 517 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: on that. If we got you, we got we go 518 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: on five fighters. Give us a ring look. Every time 519 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: we witness a natural disaster affecting thousands of Americans, it 520 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: reminds us how precious life is for people leaving their 521 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 1: homes quickly. Safety comes first. Everything else is just a 522 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: material possession. 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Join Clay 540 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 9: and Buck as they laugh it up in the Klay 541 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 9: and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 542 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 9: you get your podcasts. 543 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: We don't usually expect that we will get in depth 544 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: first Amendment or any amendment analysis on the View. Not 545 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: usually something I'd go to for my constitutional assessments. But 546 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: they had quite a squabble on the side of the 547 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: view yesterday which I wanted to return to for a moment. 548 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: But let me just set up why. First off, they 549 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: were they were talking about Facebook getting rid of the 550 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: regime of censorship that it had built over years, which 551 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: included the number that I saw, Clay was a total 552 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: of forty thousand. Did you see that forty thousand different 553 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: people involved in fact checking at Facebook? 554 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: No, I didn't see that number, but that is an 555 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: insane number of people. 556 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: That's what I saw. I mean to me, it seems 557 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: like that's how was that. But but now that's not 558 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: full time jobs. Those are people that would do it 559 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: for a period of time. But I think it's fair 560 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: to say that's a lot of fact checkers, or they 561 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of fact checkers. Maybe that that was 562 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: on you know, that was online. I don't know, maybe 563 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: it was less than that, but they used a lot 564 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: of third party problem with X people write these great things, 565 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: they go viral. I'll check and see how many facts, 566 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: how many fact checkers they had over at Facebook and 567 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: get your real number. I mean, it was definitely thousands. 568 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I think that's that's for sure, just based on the 569 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: size of the program that they were running, and they 570 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: would work with these different partner entities and stuff. Anyway, 571 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: the left is very upset about this. Democrats are very 572 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: upset about this. They've gotten used to operating in a 573 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: world where they can pretend that they care about the 574 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: First Amendment but also that the First Amendment protects feelings. 575 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: And I am quite certain the First Amendment does not 576 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: protect feelings, because if it did, it would protect nothing 577 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: and this is something I don't know if they just 578 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: don't teach this at school anymore, I don't know what 579 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: it is. The Democrats have almost a collective amnesia Clay, 580 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: or a collective ignorance that's mandatory about the First Amendment. Specifically, 581 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: they pretend like they don't get that the First Amendment 582 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: has to be for speech that is unpopular, for speech 583 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: that bothers people or else there's no need, right you know, Yes, 584 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: if the First Amendment just covers me talking about how 585 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: much I like ice cream, I mean, no one really cares. 586 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: That's not going to be a problem. The view things 587 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: got a little testy. I want you to hear that, 588 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: but also try to pick out some of the ways 589 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: that they're making these arguments, or some of the keys 590 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: to their argument. Play it well. 591 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 8: Every person at that table gets speech directed at them. 592 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: Everything. 593 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: No one is I guess, has. 594 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: To finish the sentence here anymore. 595 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: Okay, No, I think I think the point Lissa is 596 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: making here is she is a free speech. 597 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: Speak for her. 598 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: She speaks very well for hers. 599 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: No, but and I'm not doing. 600 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: It acts like her. 601 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: First Street free speech when it's the things we like. 602 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: When somebody wants. 603 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 7: To defend. 604 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 5: That isn't I don't want. 605 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 9: You call I don't want people to be able to 606 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 9: push limits. 607 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: Comedy does push limits, but be smarter in your comedy. 608 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: You don't need to offend me to be funny. 609 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: I don't need to offend you to be fine. 610 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 9: And so the. 611 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 5: Actually not necessarily. 612 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: To Okay Clay a couple a couple of things. I 613 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: wanted to push this to you because I know you're 614 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: a big First Amendment guy. 615 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 616 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: You have Whoopy Goldberg, who's basically built her career as 617 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: a as a comedian and actress. First before she was 618 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: doing the view saying that, you know, comedy shouldn't make 619 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: fun of like it shouldn't be offensive to anybody, which 620 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: is quite aligned. And then you have Sunny Houston in 621 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: her usual bitter tone. And she and I watched this 622 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: whole debate. It was about eight or ten minutes long 623 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: of a segment she she keeps taking the perspective hate 624 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: speech is not free speech, or hate speech is not covered. 625 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: And to me, this is where we just run into 626 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: this constant like brick wall of the left and their 627 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: lack of understanding here. No, actually, words that are mean 628 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: are protected under the First Amendment, like things that are 629 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: mean or whether they're you know, something that I would 630 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: support or not, or you would support or not, that 631 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That is actually free speech and they just 632 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: don't want I mean here, the example they gave was 633 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: you're now allowed to say that if somebody is transgender, 634 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: you think they have mental illness on Facebook. That was 635 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: one of the things they talked about. Why shouldn't you 636 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: be able to make that argument? If you believe that 637 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: argument is true, you should be able to make that argument. 638 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: Facebook used to ban that, and they think that that's 639 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: free speech. 640 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 641 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 3: Look what I think Sonny Hostin, who is incredibly dumb, 642 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 3: is trying to argue and doing it poorly, is you 643 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: don't have the right to threaten to kill someone. 644 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 7: Right. 645 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 5: That is not protected speech. Right. There are certain limits. 646 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: To free speech, even for someone like me who is 647 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: a free speech absolutist. When death threats came to my house, 648 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: I want the person making those death threats to me 649 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: to be prosecuted. And if you threaten to kill my 650 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: kids or you threaten to kill my wife, I want 651 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: you to be prosecuted. 652 00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: Right. 653 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: There are limits to free speech, but offense as Woopi 654 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 3: Goldberg tries to argue cannot be the limit because who 655 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: decides what the line is for being offended? And I'm 656 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: really disappointed in woop be Golder. I can't believe I 657 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 3: have to say this. I'm really disappointed in Woopy Goldberg 658 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: as a comedian because comedy sometimes hurts. The best jokes 659 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: sometimes offend people in the community. And often, and I'll 660 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: use Dave Chappelle as an example, often comedians are able 661 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 3: to further national discourse by using satire, hyperbole, ridicule, and yes, 662 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: sometimes by being offensive in a way that a traditional 663 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 3: argument might not. And so Woopi Goldberg should know that 664 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: and the argument of you best comedians should never have 665 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: to offend. Okay, Look, I love my friend Nate BARGATSI. 666 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 3: I think he's one of the most talented comedians working 667 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 3: right now. I told you recently you and Carrie should 668 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 3: watch him. He's a clean comedian. His goal is to 669 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: appeal to everybody. That's great. But I also really like 670 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: watching Dave Chappelle, and I wouldn't let my ten year 671 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: old watch it. I go back and watch Raw with 672 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy. Oh my goodness, I mean that's one of 673 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: the greatest stand up acts Richard Pryor, there are a 674 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 3: lot George Carlin, There are a lot of people who 675 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: have said what is considered to be offensive things in 676 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 3: the furtherance of comedy. And I'll defend the Lissa Fara 677 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 3: Griffin here because she's right on the edges of free 678 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: speech is often where some of the best arguments are made. 679 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 3: So this actually ties in buck with tomorrow. The TikTok 680 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: case is being heard in front of the Supreme Court, 681 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: and I actually think it's gotten very little attention, but 682 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 3: it is to me one of the most fascinating cases 683 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 3: of Supreme Court has taken in some time because of 684 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 3: the inherent contradictions here. Your position, and I think I'm 685 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: synthesizing it pretty well, is TikTok shouldn't be restricted, it 686 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: should exist. And you point out like you're not going 687 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: on for political opinions, like you're learning how to see 688 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 3: our stake better and you enjoy TikTok. My position is 689 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: somewhere in the middle here. I don't think TikTok should 690 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 3: be banned, but I think it should be treated as 691 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 3: a major media company in the United States would, And 692 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: so my positions a little. If I were on the 693 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: Supreme Court, this is the way I would analyze it. 694 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: We wouldn't allow a foreign China. A Chinese billionaire couldn't 695 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: buy The New York Times, we wouldn't allow that to happen. 696 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: A Chinese billionaire couldn't buy Fox News, we wouldn't allow 697 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: that to happen. We require media companies that are based 698 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 3: in the United States typically to be owned by American 699 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 3: media American citizens. That's not uncommon, that exists all over 700 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 3: the world. So that's point one. I think this TikTok 701 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: should be owned. TikTok America should be owned by an 702 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 3: American entity. My point two would be, in particular, will 703 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: not allow Twitter or Facebook or Google or YouTube to 704 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: compete in their country? Why should we allow Chinese companies 705 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 3: to compete in our country. Now that's complicated because it's 706 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: kind of a nuanced take on it, in between the 707 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: ban and in between the forced sell or complete free speech. 708 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 3: But that's where I would come down on this. I 709 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: have no idea what Supreme Court's going to do, but 710 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: it's going to be an incredibly compelling and important decision 711 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 3: that they render. My concern is that a lot of 712 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 3: people on the Supreme Court have no idea how modern 713 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 3: media works, and so asking a seventy five year old 714 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: who doesn't understand social media to try to make a 715 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: ruling on TikTok is complicated. And I'll give you an 716 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: example on this buck. When I was in law school, 717 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 3: one of my law school professors, actually my con law professor, 718 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: was a former Supreme Court clerk, and she used to 719 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: tell a story about the judge that she worked for. 720 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 3: They were working late night and they ordered pizza and 721 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 3: they were all sitting around eating the pizza, and the 722 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: Supreme Court justice walked in and said, my goodness, what 723 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 3: is on the pizza here? And the clerks were like, 724 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 3: that's a Pepperoni Like the judge had never seen a 725 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: Pepperoni pizza in his life, And she just remembered thinking 726 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 3: life experience when you got a seventy five or an 727 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 3: eighty year old guy who's sitting around trying to judge 728 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 3: what's going on in the culture and he's never even 729 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 3: seen a Pepperoni pizza in his life. I don't know 730 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 3: that any of these judges really understand social media. So 731 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: I'm nervous and apprehensive about their ability to really understand 732 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: the nuances of this case in a detailed way, if 733 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 3: that makes sense. 734 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: Is pepperoni the king of all pizza toppings. I'm gonna 735 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: go super off the board here. 736 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go on to. 737 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: These pineapple and head. 738 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 5: No, no, I'm not gonna go pineapple. 739 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: First of all, to your general question, if you have 740 00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 3: a kid party to throw, Pepperoni and chi are the 741 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 3: only options that should be available for every kid party. 742 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 3: Anybody listening to me right now knows that I am correct. 743 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: Those are the two options. Having said that my go 744 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 3: to and I might be the only person in America 745 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: who's got I'm gonna sound like you when it comes 746 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 3: to the pistachio ice cream here, I'm ready for the 747 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: slings and arrows of the listening audience. I go jalapeno mushroom. 748 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: That is my favorite type of Oh. I know, I 749 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 3: see your face, and I know I know a lot 750 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 3: of people don't trust me anymore. I know a lot 751 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: of you are nodding as long as I analyze TikTok, 752 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, that's really it, and now I 753 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 3: just said it, and now you don't trust me at all. 754 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: Haven't you been to an office party. Jalapeno mushroom is 755 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: the pie that's always got plenty of slices at the end. 756 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 3: I'm saying for myself personally. You asked if I order, 757 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: and my family hates it. It's the only my pizza 758 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 3: by itself. I think the premiere pizza is jalipino and 759 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 3: mushroom on the as the toppings on the pizza. 760 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: Guys, I don't even know what to tell you here. 761 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 5: I know, I know I've lost America. 762 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: I did. I tried to guide him into the into 763 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: the shining lights of uh, pepperoni, perhaps sausage, you know, 764 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of sausage on there, very nice. I'd 765 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: even take some people like a little bit of broccoli, 766 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: extra cheese. There's a bunch of things you could do here. 767 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: You can start getting into the buffalo chicken. I mean, 768 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: you get in the fancy. 769 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 3: There's a lot of like super fancy, like buck Sexton 770 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 3: style pizzas I understand are out there. You're like, well, 771 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 3: lobster pizza is the greatest pizza of all. You put 772 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 3: a little bit of uh, you know what I like 773 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: is truffles on top of my pizza. But you know, 774 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 3: in the in the general like option ordering. Uh, I 775 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 3: understand that I'm in the extreme minority with hallopeen Year. 776 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: Are saying pistachi is New York saying pistachio pizzas that's 777 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: not a thing. They don't put pistachio nuts on pizza today. No, Oh, 778 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: they're saying I should make it a thing. You guys 779 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 1: are nuts. Just saying you guys are nuts, no pun intended. 780 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: Look what I did that. 781 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 5: Hey, that's very good, very good. 782 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: We're going to get back into news and important things 783 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: here in a second. I just thought that the view 784 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: the discussion of it was kind of No, that's great, 785 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: and I think it ties in with TikTok. And by 786 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: the way, you're gonna win every discussion for the rest 787 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: of the show. Because I've alienated the entire American listening audience. 788 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anybody else out there who's like, 789 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: it's maybe five percent of the population. A family friend 790 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: reached out to me over the holidays to say that 791 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: he really enjoys the show, but he's very mad at 792 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: me for all the criticism that I do. And then 793 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: he names some football program and I had absolutely no 794 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: idea what he was talking about, and so I had 795 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: the family respond and he goes, oh, you're the other one. 796 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I assure. 797 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 5: You're the other one. 798 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: I think it was Florida Central or whatever. There was 799 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: like something you were saying something bad about a Florida team. 800 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: You were trashing some Florida football team. I just thought 801 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: it was funny because I was getting He was like 802 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: kind of upset. He's like, you're being really unfair to 803 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,959 Speaker 1: my Have you been bashing some Florida team. 804 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 3: Well, I want to state basically had the worst year. Sorry, 805 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: Semino Seminole fans driving around, they're having a good Seminal 806 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 3: fan see this as a Seminal fan. He said, you're 807 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 3: being too rough on his seminals while they went to 808 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 3: and ten. I mean, I don't know how what you 809 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 3: know when you go to and ten, it's tough to 810 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: be very favorable. Also, I have been critical of the Dolphins, 811 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 3: but more in the sense that I just feel sad 812 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 3: for everyone who's a Miami Dolphin fan because basically, since 813 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 3: Dan Marino retired like twenty five years ago, whatever the math, 814 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 3: thirty years ago, basically your franchise hasn't mattered. So Dolphin 815 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 3: fans actually understand it. It's why they're still running around 816 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 3: in those number thirteen jerseys. But that could I think 817 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 3: I've taken shots in both directions, North Florida and South 818 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 3: Florida at those two teams. 819 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: It was it was seminoles and it was funny because I, 820 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, I'm definitely not too hard 821 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: on the seminoles O line. I have no idea what 822 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Anyway, learned something new. As much as 823 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: we all rely on the Internet, we still don't know 824 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: how precisely it works. 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More and 849 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: more information coming out about how things have been run 850 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: in recent years at the La City Fire Department. Christopher 851 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: Rufo sharing this. The La City Fire Department has an 852 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: entire Equity Bureau which hopes to advance DEI within the 853 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: fire service, and last year LAFD cut seven million dollars 854 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: from the overtime budget, which impacted air operations and disaster response, 855 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: but kept the DEI department. And then John Lefevre, who's 856 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: also formerly of Goldman Sachs Elevator and he's an author. 857 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: He's an interesting guy. He shared that the because this 858 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: stuff is all public, Like even when I was the MPD, 859 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: my salary you could look it up online. These things are, 860 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, public record. The fire Assistant Chief for Diversity, 861 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: Equity and Inclusion in twenty twenty three, for total pay 862 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: and benefits, made four hundred and forty seven thousand dollars. 863 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: So you know, you got people that are getting paid 864 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: really well to do really worthless things in the name 865 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: of DEI in that department. 866 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: F one hundred and forty k buck for a dude 867 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 3: who's in charge of DEI at the fire department. 868 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand now why some people are so 869 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: devoted to DEI within the system. That's great money for 870 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: a make believe job, you know what I'm saying. That's 871 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: a job that you could sit there. 872 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 3: That's insane taxpayer funded job. 873 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 5: That's more tho. You know you're out there right now. 874 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 3: And there have been a lot of criticism of senators 875 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 3: and congress people for wanting a pay raise buck that's 876 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 3: almost triple what a congressman makes, or a senator. 877 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: To oh my god, you know, Michelle Obama back in 878 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: like two thousand and six was making close to three 879 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 1: hundred grand as a diversity educator at a hospital in Chicago. 880 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, I'm going to the memory banks here, 881 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: but making really good money to do something that isn't 882 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: needing to be done. But yeah, you know again, play's 883 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: just still upset that she didn't go to the funeral 884 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: so well. 885 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 3: In his bonnet. Bonnet, that's right, I'm still fired up. 886 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 3: But we got the clip Karen Bass. 887 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Karen Bass, well, the Karen Bass here and 888 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: here she is getting a little testy because she realizes 889 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: the heat is on. People feel like this has not 890 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: been an acceptable response. Here she is battling it out 891 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: with the with the the journals, play thirty two. What 892 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: explains this lack of preparation and rapid response. 893 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 2: Let me just say, first and foremost, number one focus, 894 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: and I think the focus of all of us here 895 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: with one voice, is that we have to protect lives. 896 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 2: We have to save lives, and we have to save homes. 897 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: Rest assured that when that rest assured, let me finish, 898 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 2: when that is done, When we are safe, when lives 899 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 2: have been saved and homes have been saved. We will 900 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 2: absolutely do an evaluation to look at what worked, what 901 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: didn't work, and to correct or to hold accountable any body, department, individual, etc. 902 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: But my focus right now is on the lives and 903 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 2: on the homes. 904 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: Do you think your leadership was effective while responding to 905 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: this disaster? 906 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: I just said what I believe is the most important 907 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 2: thing for us to do right now, and that is 908 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 2: going to continue to be my focus. 909 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 5: Okay, I get a look what she said. 910 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 3: Yes, like we want to save lives, we want to 911 00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 3: protect homes. 912 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 5: That should be the goal. 913 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 3: It's also very fair for her to be asked in 914 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 3: the real time, do you think that your leadership has 915 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 3: been effective? My answer is no. The answer of most 916 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 3: Los Angelinos would also be no. And Buck, I come 917 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 3: back to this. Remember the phrase, which I think applies 918 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 3: to so many different facets, and we talk about it 919 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 3: sometimes on the show. Rumsfeld talking about the things the 920 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 3: known knowns. Remember, he got ridiculed for the way that 921 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 3: he broke down the things you know and the things 922 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 3: that you don't know. And what basically he was analyzing 923 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 3: is how do you deal with expected outcomes and or 924 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 3: expected scenarios. The idea that Los Angeles could have a 925 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 3: calamitous wildfire issue was well known. I've spent a lot 926 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 3: of time in La I've been out there when they 927 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 3: have had wildfire issues. This was imminently foreseeable. This was 928 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 3: not nine to eleven when nineteen terrorists got on an 929 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 3: airplane with box cutters and decided they were going to 930 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,959 Speaker 3: fly airplanes into buildings. That was totally unexpected. Right, there 931 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 3: are things that occurred that are totally unexpected. This is 932 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 3: the equivalent of a hurricane hitting Florida. Florida is prepared 933 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 3: to respond to hurricanes, they cannot control when hurricanes happen. 934 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 3: I don't see how anybody watching this response from Gavin Newsom, 935 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 3: Karen Bass the leadership of California can think that the 936 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 3: city of Los Angeles has been well served by their 937 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 3: leadership during this crisis. 938 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 5: I just I don't see how it's possible. 939 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 3: And I don't think you have to wait till the 940 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 3: crisis is over to see whether or not you've gotten 941 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 3: an adequate response and gauge how you're doing well. 942 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 1: We understand why they want that to be the case, 943 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: because they are hoping that by the time they get 944 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: around to their own version of the accountability hot wash 945 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: that you know, people will have not been focused on 946 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: it the same way. The delay is the bureaucrats best 947 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: friend most of the time, and that's what they'll do. 948 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: They'll make sure that they'll they'll point some commission and 949 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: in about three years there'll be some big report that 950 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 1: comes out that nobody reads about. Oh, yeah, we should 951 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: have done this, that and the other thing. We all 952 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: know this, right, this is the classic way that this 953 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: sort of thing will be handled. Right now, the public 954 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: is focused on it and seeing it happen, and of 955 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 1: course there's outrage and I just say this too the 956 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: whole all, but don't politicize. Look everything is political now, okay, 957 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: And so they make everything political as soon as it happens. 958 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, every time there's a shooting, it's band 959 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: guns unless it involves like you know, gang members, and 960 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, we don't care about the 961 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: shooting as much. Right there's always or. 962 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 3: It's a se or it's a CEO gig shot in 963 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 3: the street, and then nobody calls for banning guns at all, 964 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 3: or there's. 965 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: Like a trans terrorist running around somewhere. Anyway, they they 966 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: do this right away, and Noose him is as guilty 967 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: of it as anybody. I mean, he immediately will and 968 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: right now, look if Ron DeSantis, I mean, this is 969 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: this I think is a good, a good you know, 970 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: example of what we're talking about. There have been some 971 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: big hurricanes that have hit while Ron DeSantis has been governored, 972 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: while I've been here in Florida, and they tried to 973 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: do the oh he wasn't ready, or oh he you know, 974 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: for about a hot second, that's right, and then it 975 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: is apparent to everybody, No, he actually had all the 976 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: resources in place, and the preparations and the and everything 977 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: that could reasonably and and professionally be expected to be there, 978 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: and done was done. And that's why Ron doesn't get 979 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: hit by people on hurricane preparation stuff. No one's saying, 980 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, he can't stop hurricanes, but he can have 981 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 1: the right pieces in place to mitigate and to mitigate 982 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: the damage into save lives. They clearly didn't have that 983 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, right, This is the you know, this 984 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: is not it's not just oh there was a fire, 985 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: fires happen, it's they have gotten there's way out of control. 986 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: They have no emergency plan to speak of, to escalate 987 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: and to you know, expand on whatever footprint they have 988 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: for fire suppression and fire safety. And they got you know, 989 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: they got caught here. I mean, they just got they 990 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: got caught napping in a sense, and now they don't 991 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: want to take the blame or the fall for it. 992 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, and frankly, the bureaucrat recognizes, as you said, 993 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 3: that eventually people's attention moves on, and the amount of 994 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 3: attention that is given in the aftermath of a crisis 995 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 3: is far less than in the midst of the crisis. 996 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 3: And I think it's fair to say, even though it's 997 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 3: still ongoing, the mayor and the leadership of Los Angeles, 998 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 3: as well as the governor, they failed the people of 999 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. The question that I have already and certainly, 1000 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 3: we want everybody to be safe, we want everybody's property 1001 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 3: to survive these fires, We want everything to be done, 1002 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 3: want the firemen to deserve as much praise as possible 1003 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 3: for putting their lives on the line for multiple days 1004 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 3: to save as many people as possible. 1005 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 5: All of that can be true. 1006 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 3: The question that I ultimately have, buck is is this 1007 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 3: an event that is so bad that people in Los 1008 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 3: Angeles start looking around and saying, boy, who we pick 1009 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 3: as leaders really matters and instead of being focused on 1010 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 3: the DEI cosmetic identity politics associated with elections. I think 1011 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 3: the evidence suggests Rick Caruso, who is also a Democrat, 1012 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 3: I might add, would have done a far better job 1013 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 3: of handling this catastrophe than Mayor Karen Bass has done. 1014 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 3: I think there are many other politicians that would have 1015 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 3: done a far better job of thinking about these catastrophes 1016 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 3: than Gavin Newsom has done. What's my evidence for that. 1017 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 3: I don't think any major state governor handled COVID worse 1018 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 3: than Gavin Newsom did. What is evidence that would suggest 1019 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 3: many agree? Five straight years California has led the nation 1020 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 3: in people fleeing the state. Eventually, people get upset. To 1021 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 3: your point, I think a lot of people hopefully they 1022 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 3: have insurance in this context, because I know there's going 1023 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 3: to be major insurance related issues here too. Given how 1024 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 3: much this is going to cost. I think a lot 1025 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 3: of people are going to take their money that they 1026 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 3: got for their homes, they're not going to rebuild, and 1027 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 3: they're going to move to other parts of the country 1028 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 3: because they're just fed up. 1029 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: You might have some new neighbors outside of Tennessee there, buddy, 1030 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: it's not. 1031 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 3: I think that that is very likely to be true. 1032 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 3: And by the way, you're going to have a lot 1033 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 3: of them in Miami too, Because the data reflects Tennessee, Texas, 1034 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 3: and Florida, alongside of North Carolina and South Carolina added 1035 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,479 Speaker 3: the most people of any state in twenty twenty four. 1036 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 5: Those three that I just mentioned. 1037 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 3: The lack of state income tax bringing a lot of 1038 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 3: people here. 1039 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: I got to think that some of these other states 1040 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: are are considering what it would mean if they were 1041 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: to be able to get down to a zero zero 1042 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: state income tax, yes, for their economy, for it, because 1043 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: I get it in for the annual budget, it's, oh 1044 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: my gosh, how are we going to fund this? We 1045 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: need to have a state income tax. But when you 1046 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: think about all of the money that has moved specifically 1047 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: from California and New York businesses, personal income tax, just 1048 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: the productivity, the economic vitality that has moved to Texas, 1049 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: to Tennessee, to Florida, and look at a lot of 1050 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: people have moved to the Carolinas, even though they have 1051 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: from the northeast at least even though ever listening from 1052 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: the Carolinas knows this, even though they've got pretty high taxes. 1053 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: I think five six percent for North Carolina. I think 1054 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: it's about the same in South Carolina. I know because 1055 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: I've looked. I was like, I might I would consider living. 1056 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: I love both of those states. But I would think 1057 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: that some others would consider it cly because the long 1058 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: term wealth transfer that is occurring now for people who 1059 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: have capital and are mobile to states that aren't going 1060 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: to penalize them with the state income tax. It's uh, 1061 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: people will look back on this and it's gonna it's 1062 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 1: changing the future of Texas, Tennessee, and Florida for sure, 1063 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: into becoming even more so economic powerhouses and and really 1064 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: states that are havens of a lot of high earners too, 1065 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: which then you got people there that are are running 1066 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: businesses that pay for everything and that you know, make 1067 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: it all work. You know we didn't address this before, Clay, 1068 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 1: When do you did you already take down all of 1069 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: your all of your holiday stuff? Brucer Greg said this 1070 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: one around and I had to carry the tree down 1071 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: to the dumpster yesterday, and I know this is a 1072 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: husband's job. You got to carry the tree down and 1073 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: it seems like it'd be an easy thing to do, 1074 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: but you know, you got to keep your balance. It's 1075 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: not that easy. But Carrie wants to keep the garlands 1076 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: because they look very pretty. That she she did a 1077 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: great job decorating for Christmas. How long can you keep 1078 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: this stuff up before you start to look like somebody 1079 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: who can't let it go. You need time to think, 1080 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: think about maybe Easter instead. 1081 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 3: Well, I understand that no one trusts me after my 1082 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 3: pizza topping discussion, but I think you are. 1083 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: Getting You're getting. It's fun funny rule light. 1084 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 3: People are lighting me up because I was honest. It's 1085 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 3: an honest show. Jalapenos and pen mushrooms, greatest pizza toppings, combo. 1086 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 3: I'll give you my answer. 1087 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 5: We come back. 1088 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 3: But in meantime, you know what I got, Buck winners. 1089 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 3: I have got winners NFL playoffs, NFL playoffs coming up 1090 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 3: more or less on these players. I've got a ten 1091 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 3: to one payout that I feel really good about. 1092 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 5: Buck. 1093 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 3: I feel really good about winning on this one. It's simple, 1094 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 3: it's easy. Prize picks dot Com. My name Clay, all right, 1095 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start buck with your boy pickles. 1096 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 5: Oh George George. 1097 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 3: Pickens, as Buck Membery called him Pickles, He's gonna have 1098 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 3: more than fifty four and a half receiving yards in 1099 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 3: the Steelers game. He's been awful. I think they're gonna 1100 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 3: go to in freak often. I think you'll have more 1101 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 3: than fifty four and a half. And then these are 1102 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 3: three easy ones. Mike Evans, Jalen Hurts, and Justin Jefferson. 1103 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 3: All three are going to score a touchdown receiving or rushing. 1104 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 3: Mike Evans Tampa Bay buccaneer wide receiver stud Jalen Hurts 1105 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 3: the uh tush push touchdown coming, I'm telling you. And 1106 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson also maybe the best receiver in the NFL 1107 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 3: right now. More than one half touchdown that it pays 1108 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 3: out at ten to one. If you go to prizpicks 1109 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 3: dot com, use my name, Clay, that's George Pickens, more 1110 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 3: unreceiving yards, Mike Evans, Jalen Hurts, and Justin Jefferson all 1111 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 3: more than one half touchdowns that pays out ten to one. 1112 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 3: You get fifty dollars when you play five dollars. Pricepicks 1113 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 3: dot com. My name Clay, pricepicks dot com. My name Clay, 1114 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 3: this is almost as good as my pizza topping suggestion. 1115 01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Pricepicks dot com code Clay. 1116 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 9: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do 1117 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 9: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay 1118 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 9: and Buck as they laugh it up 1119 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 7: In the Clay and Buck podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio app, 1120 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts.