Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Caroline and welcome to the group
Speaker 1: Chat where this week we're talking about things that exist,
Speaker 1: but we're not really sure why. Advice you either give
Speaker 1: or received between the hours of midnight and three am
Speaker 1: doesn't count. Doesn't matter what you say or here. And
Speaker 1: we're also previewing the very first preseason game of the
Speaker 1: season in Chicago. How do they finish the play when
Speaker 1: when we're you know, it's it's it's live. Now, it's real.
Speaker 1: We've got this and so much more on this week's
Speaker 1: group Chat. You've been added to the group Chat with
Speaker 1: your friends Caroline, can Max Senson, and Charles William McFadden,
Speaker 1: Bryan McFadden, Brian Charles, Charlie will William William William McFadden
Speaker 1: like rating radding nuance this week, I have enjoyed a
Speaker 1: couple of people on Twitter. Guys, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining the group out on Twitter and tweeting out
Speaker 1: is about that. I think I changed up your name
Speaker 1: like multiple times to people when they yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: it's a great name. And I hear your mother wasn't
Speaker 1: too happy that we were maybe poking fun. She she
Speaker 1: gets very serious. She was unhappy with you the name.
Speaker 1: You love the name. Yeah, you were the one who
Speaker 1: what did you What did your mom say that you said?
Speaker 1: She wasn't happy with I think it was just that
Speaker 1: it was first she was unhappy with you because because
Speaker 1: you you first said, wait, isn't William Charles And she's like, no, Max,
Speaker 1: it's Charles William. And then it was like Charles William
Speaker 1: Brown like she's like, what about McFadden. We gotta add
Speaker 1: the McFadden in there. I also like the spelling of McFadden,
Speaker 1: not the normal McFadden. It's not Darren McFadden ways. I
Speaker 1: en just to be special, just different. I love it.
Speaker 1: That was producer Matt And we actually had someone tell
Speaker 1: us a nickname for you are you. Yeah, someone came
Speaker 1: up with a nickname for our producer Matt and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to look it up because my gosh, I'm
Speaker 1: forgetting it now. Well what do we As we were
Speaker 1: walking out last time, we said, what do we say that?
Speaker 1: We said, everyone calls you Hoges and oh, I like
Speaker 1: HOGI I think that that's got. I'm going to look
Speaker 1: this up while we actually tell you what we're really
Speaker 1: going to talk about on this podcast, and that is
Speaker 1: of course the preseason, because it's here we're playing a
Speaker 1: preseason game. And how while we were kind of talking
Speaker 1: about the preseason and how just very important this game
Speaker 1: is in the longevity of this team's season and career,
Speaker 1: here we realize that it doesn't really matter. So around
Speaker 1: that framework of what people say of the preseason doesn't
Speaker 1: really count. You know, you go through and you try
Speaker 1: and get this amazing record, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we've seen teams go oh and four in
Speaker 1: the preseason going to win the Super Bowl. So how
Speaker 1: important are these games? They're important enough to exist, but
Speaker 1: that's about it. So in that framework, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about other things that exist, but we're not really
Speaker 1: exactly sure why, but we are going to talk some
Speaker 1: football here at the end. So enjoy this. Coming up
Speaker 1: with these things not easy a challenge, h It was
Speaker 1: kind of challenge, But it all started because McFadden over
Speaker 1: here easily easily came up with his first one. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say it because I want you to
Speaker 1: say that this one rolled off the tongue when he
Speaker 1: first said it in our legit group chat on our phones.
Speaker 1: What is it? So I, first of all, I came
Speaker 1: up with the idea. You prompted it. I prompted the
Speaker 1: idea of what do do you want me to say that? Like?
Speaker 1: Are we not just one that I have to give
Speaker 1: you credit about when comes up with it? The credit? Gosh,
Speaker 1: all right, good job, it's a wonderful idea. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: What is it Columbus Day? Come on? What? What is
Speaker 1: what is Columbus Day? Good for? No one gets it off? Right?
Speaker 1: I think it's people Columbus Day. Columbus mother is not
Speaker 1: going to be happy with this. Yeah, well cook, cook,
Speaker 1: his family is not going to be happy with this,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I mean what did he really
Speaker 1: do outside of spread some diseases and go the wrong
Speaker 1: way around the world? Um? Hello, mistakes sometimes are great things.
Speaker 1: And you know, thanks Columbus, we're finding this land. I
Speaker 1: what's wrong with another holiday? But you don't get it.
Speaker 1: It's a holiday that doesn't mean anything because you don't
Speaker 1: get to do anything with it. What you ever had
Speaker 1: really great Columbus Day plans? Oh? I always really Columbus.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Columbus Day fan here, yeah, big Columbus
Speaker 1: Day fan. No, but that was a really good one.
Speaker 1: Made me laugh. So We've come up with a list
Speaker 1: of other things that exists but don't really matter. So Max,
Speaker 1: what are some of yours? Yeah? I think, I think
Speaker 1: In Will's text it was like things in life that
Speaker 1: don't count, right, that was like, So with that prompt,
Speaker 1: my first thought was, um, college football and basketball preseason
Speaker 1: polls are the most useless thing preseason all American? What yeah? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean? And especially the polls are just like you
Speaker 1: have no idea. You're essentially just saying, here's the how
Speaker 1: teams finished last year and now a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: graduated and the teams are completely different. But like we're
Speaker 1: just gonna throw darts and say, like who we think
Speaker 1: is going to be good? They're just completely meaningless. Um.
Speaker 1: My other one was advice you either give or received
Speaker 1: between the hours of midnight and three am. The best
Speaker 1: doesn't count. Doesn't matter what you say or here, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't. It doesn't count. That's the best because how
Speaker 1: many times have you been out at a bar I know,
Speaker 1: at least like the women's restroom between the hours of
Speaker 1: twelve and three am. Okay, it's I mean, it's an
Speaker 1: advice is being thrown around everywhere because someone's in there crying.
Speaker 1: But I never once a similar situation in the men's room.
Speaker 1: I've never once heard advice and there been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, take that advice and just do that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I loved that one. So mine, Um, your
Speaker 1: g p A in college, I never once have I
Speaker 1: been asked. I've never put it on a resume. I've
Speaker 1: not like, as long as you're you know, keeping your scholarships,
Speaker 1: whatever you have your For me, it was like to
Speaker 1: be eligible to play, like it doesn't matter. I never
Speaker 1: once I've got into a conversation of like, so, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on this interview. I was curious about
Speaker 1: your g p A in college. It's a good point.
Speaker 1: I mean in major for that matter, that's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: because my brother's history major or was a history major.
Speaker 1: Cell solar energy. Yeah, it does it even really matter,
Speaker 1: Like we're all very proud of where he went to school,
Speaker 1: but doesn't even really matter where you went at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Yes, I think so, but I
Speaker 1: think it's more so the alumni base. Yeah, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like I think people extress out like crazy
Speaker 1: in high school trying to get into X school because
Speaker 1: it's got this reputation, But like if I didn't, if
Speaker 1: I really wanted to go to Northwestern and I didn't
Speaker 1: get in and I had to go to Wisconsin. Because
Speaker 1: it's a couple. I hope all of you Wisconsin people
Speaker 1: out there are living. I'm a Wisconsin guy. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm so. I'm but I'm saying like it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: What are you saying? So you're saying that Northwestern is
Speaker 1: extremely better than Wisconsin, and when you look at your
Speaker 1: like US News magazine, like Northwestern is going to be
Speaker 1: ranked whatever and Wisconsin is gonna be a few below.
Speaker 1: I don't think it mattered at all, really in different
Speaker 1: in terms of like job, Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: it matters in terms of, you know, the type of
Speaker 1: social life, the type of social things. I'm saying now,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you're like pursuing a job, I don't
Speaker 1: think the interviewer is saying, oh, you you went to
Speaker 1: Davidson instead of Duke. It's like you're not smart enough
Speaker 1: for this, yo. I don't think that right. My other
Speaker 1: one is like the opening act of the opening act
Speaker 1: out of consint I almost said opening act here, But
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you can get like a really good
Speaker 1: opening act that I will go early for, but the
Speaker 1: opening act to the opening act at like the State
Speaker 1: Fair or like concert. Yeah, I thank you for being there,
Speaker 1: but I probably won't be You know, does that mean
Speaker 1: you guys aren't you don't you don't support local artists?
Speaker 1: I do that are trying to make you know? Oh man,
Speaker 1: all right, that one might get me? What about what
Speaker 1: about the annual NFL schedule release video matters? It's everything? Yea?
Speaker 1: How proud were we of what exactly what's produced by
Speaker 1: Carson and Co? And it's fantastic, And yet it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, It doesn't matter through the lens of like
Speaker 1: what's going to happen that season? But my goodness, if
Speaker 1: we don't get the clicks and views and praise from
Speaker 1: everyone on social media, our lives are over. But you
Speaker 1: don't even know what the schedule is. Like you can
Speaker 1: watch it and you have no idea what the schedule.
Speaker 1: So this is actually a fun thing for those of
Speaker 1: you that enjoy the schedule released videos if you do
Speaker 1: not realize this, The teams themselves are not told what
Speaker 1: the schedule is until like maybe like twenty four hours
Speaker 1: would be an amazing feat to get it. We're talking
Speaker 1: like four to six hours before it's released. That's when
Speaker 1: the teams get them and then they have to put
Speaker 1: them all together. So and everyone tries really hard except
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. I don't know when we were with
Speaker 1: the cold when so the Colts last year, what we down,
Speaker 1: we just had and like sit down in our mail
Speaker 1: room there and just read and we hung. We hung
Speaker 1: like a banner that said like that you buy it,
Speaker 1: you know, but we care. That's the thing though, Like
Speaker 1: we tried to make it underproduced, but there was like
Speaker 1: seven people working on that shoot. We had everything set up.
Speaker 1: We ordered off Amazon. Like oh yeah, that's the way
Speaker 1: to do it. Either you underproduce it and it's funny,
Speaker 1: or you really produce it well and it crushes. If
Speaker 1: you try hard and it doesn't you don't stick the
Speaker 1: landing that it's like embarrassing. All right, I've got one
Speaker 1: more here, Oh man, you really did do some work
Speaker 1: on this. Well I have a few more, but um,
Speaker 1: I think people won't agree with me with your S
Speaker 1: A T and A C T scores. I don't really
Speaker 1: think the matter. No, I agree, Yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 1: think the college thing looking back on it now, was like, man,
Speaker 1: that was a stress. It mattered for like a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it matters like when you're seven or sixteen or seventeen,
Speaker 1: and I think it is about that a school, like
Speaker 1: any standardized test in school. Spare me, okay. The other
Speaker 1: one that we can end on here because I think
Speaker 1: everyone can agree with this. Calories on vacation. They exist,
Speaker 1: but they don't matter. I would totally agree. Will Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna disagree with that one. Now. It matters in principle,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter in practice, Like I'll go on vacation
Speaker 1: thinking like all right, and then it just never works.
Speaker 1: Never works, all right. Calories don't count until you get
Speaker 1: back in it's Monday and your fifteen pounds have yer
Speaker 1: pretty much. But we like that one. Calories don't count
Speaker 1: on vacation. So if you have anything out there, we
Speaker 1: definitely want to hear what exists but doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: want to hear about it, like substitute butter. That's what
Speaker 1: we didn't come up with that one. You're still rattling
Speaker 1: them up. Man, you're on a roll now, please Max
Speaker 1: anymore from you jump in Now I'm going to end
Speaker 1: on mine that you guys both really liked. I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to rein that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Max does win on this one. Like that was
Speaker 1: really funny. I lose. Really, I'm in last place. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm trying to do like quantity of Okay, but
Speaker 1: you guys really came up some quality ones. I appreciate it. Here.
Speaker 1: If anyone out there, if you have some that you've
Speaker 1: come up with or thought about, please tweet us because
Speaker 1: it has been a really fun conversation for us to
Speaker 1: have over the past twenty four hours. But we are
Speaker 1: going to actually talk football now because even though we
Speaker 1: are saying this game doesn't quite matter, it does exist
Speaker 1: and it really does matter for a lot of players
Speaker 1: on this team and the coaches on this team. This
Speaker 1: is very important for them as they get ready for
Speaker 1: this season. So let's just go around and say, what's
Speaker 1: maybe the one thing that you're if you can narrow
Speaker 1: it down, what is the one thing that you're looking
Speaker 1: for on this team? Start us off, mc fan. I
Speaker 1: want to start with the offensive line because you know,
Speaker 1: we we've seen these guys go against you know, the
Speaker 1: Panthers pass rush. We've seen the way things happen in
Speaker 1: practice when that path, when that pass rush comes, it
Speaker 1: has to stop at some point, you know, Cam or
Speaker 1: Kyle or Will or will Sell if they if they miss,
Speaker 1: you don't see the violent end. No you don't. It's
Speaker 1: just like they step on the pocket and the throw
Speaker 1: still gets out. So you want to see both the
Speaker 1: offensive line and for that matter, the defensive line finish
Speaker 1: the play. You know, how how do they finish the
Speaker 1: play when when we're you know, it's it's it's live now,
Speaker 1: it's real. So and you know, looking at uh, you know,
Speaker 1: potentially who might be playing where you know, we we
Speaker 1: saw a lot of Greg Van roting at center in
Speaker 1: the um and the Tuesday walked through. You know, we
Speaker 1: still a lot of Dennis Daily out there with the
Speaker 1: first team. Would be great to kind of want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder how much we're gonna see a paradise as
Speaker 1: they're kind of like being a little cautious with with him. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: does that mean Greg is going to be at center?
Speaker 1: We're gonna see him at left? Yeah? I don't know
Speaker 1: that we're gonna see the Week one starting lineup at
Speaker 1: offensive line, but it would be great to see Greg
Speaker 1: Little and Davis daily and see those guys against opponents,
Speaker 1: especially depending on you know what the Bears rotation looks like. Well,
Speaker 1: we were talking to Trade Turner for our production meetings
Speaker 1: for the game, and one thing that he talked about
Speaker 1: the offensive line is they almost have to learn to
Speaker 1: dance together. And I love that to use the word dance,
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. It's this choreographed almost first
Speaker 1: step that they have to do, and that's what that
Speaker 1: continuity is about. So I'm with you on I want
Speaker 1: to see this offensive line and it does. I get it,
Speaker 1: it's the first one, but it's like it does kind
Speaker 1: of be like, why are we not going to see
Speaker 1: the starting five? Why would you not put them out
Speaker 1: there for a couple of reps at least, you know,
Speaker 1: a series or two so that we can see it.
Speaker 1: But then you also have to look at well, what
Speaker 1: are you weighing here, being cautious with guys that you
Speaker 1: want to make sure ready for week one, or trying
Speaker 1: to get this continuity within a game. So I'm interested
Speaker 1: to see to what they do with that offensive line
Speaker 1: because I think that is huge. We've gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of answers defensive line. Some other positions. But the offensive line,
Speaker 1: we're still like exactly and and how you know who's where?
Speaker 1: And when are we going to see them? Plays on
Speaker 1: with you on offensive line? What are you excited to see? Um?
Speaker 1: I'll go backup quarterbacks, which is probably an easy one,
Speaker 1: but we're we know we're not going to see cam
Speaker 1: Ron has confirmed that we want to see Luke either
Speaker 1: for that matter, But Kyle and Will get the start,
Speaker 1: and we know we're gonna see plenty of Will Greer
Speaker 1: at some point too. And this is the rookies first
Speaker 1: time to be out there in a game setting. Kyle
Speaker 1: has had a great camp, um, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to know. Look, they invested the
Speaker 1: third round picking Will Greer. Is he going to win
Speaker 1: this backup job? Or is Kyle Allen going to hold
Speaker 1: him off? And I think that competition really starts now.
Speaker 1: Training camp practices are one thing, but especially with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You know, if you put together you know, a fifteen
Speaker 1: for eighteen day with a hundred something yards and two
Speaker 1: touchdowns like that, that makes a state. Um, if you
Speaker 1: turn the ball over in the preseason games, that also
Speaker 1: makes a statement to youve got to be able to
Speaker 1: protect the football. So I'm curious to see how both
Speaker 1: these young guys play against the Good Bears defense that
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to feature Khalil Mack and co.
Speaker 1: All that much. We know the starters won't be out
Speaker 1: there very much of it all for either team. Um,
Speaker 1: but this is their opportunity to go out there and
Speaker 1: really play and sling it. Yeah. I'm going to stick
Speaker 1: with the offense here. So I think we a lot
Speaker 1: of us we've been watching, but we've been watching the
Speaker 1: defense so heavily in training camp. I think this is
Speaker 1: where we can get some maybe answers on offense running backs.
Speaker 1: So the conversation of you know, lightening the load of
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, we've learned that that's not so much you know,
Speaker 1: his carries per se, or how many times he's touching
Speaker 1: the ball in the game, but it's how many snaps
Speaker 1: he's actually on the field for. So with that great
Speaker 1: in theory, but then who's going to come in and
Speaker 1: still draw the attention that Christian McCaffrey can draw on
Speaker 1: some of these plays. I think that's why he's out there,
Speaker 1: because if you send him up the middle, everyone's going
Speaker 1: that way. And it frees up some plays on the outside.
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see with the the players that
Speaker 1: are gonna play with the three running backs that would
Speaker 1: be out there. Scarlett's not going to be out there,
Speaker 1: but the other three, how how are they? What are
Speaker 1: they doing? Because I think you know, when you're in practice,
Speaker 1: they're not taking hits. They're not you know, it's very
Speaker 1: just touch the guy and he's down as two hand
Speaker 1: touch football there a lot of times at training camp.
Speaker 1: So what do they do when they're actually getting hit?
Speaker 1: You know, we want to see Hollyfield catch some balls
Speaker 1: that we haven't seen a lot. You know, he's kind
Speaker 1: of that blocker guy. Is that what they're looking for?
Speaker 1: Because I think with when you have a complete running
Speaker 1: back like Christian McCaffrey, you don't necessarily need another complete
Speaker 1: running back. And I don't think they have anyone on
Speaker 1: the roster right now that you would check and just
Speaker 1: be like, he's ready to be a starter in this league.
Speaker 1: Complete running back, But you need to find one that,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to lighten the load on snaps, be
Speaker 1: the one that can pull some attention. So how's the
Speaker 1: ability to make some plays? But it's also a really
Speaker 1: good blocker, So I want to see what do they
Speaker 1: look like when it's live football out there. And the
Speaker 1: guy that no one has talked about that could emmul
Speaker 1: Christian style of play the most now that Scarlett is
Speaker 1: hurt is Reggie Bonifon. Like, I mean, what a name
Speaker 1: I mean, right, I mean, he came out and made
Speaker 1: all sorts of waves when the depth chart that someone
Speaker 1: who will remain name was put out this last week,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's third, you know, I mean it's
Speaker 1: completely unofficial, but we're going to get to see him.
Speaker 1: And you know, he played all these positions in college.
Speaker 1: You know, he's done everything. You know when he was
Speaker 1: at Louisville, you know, can he go out there and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, be be someone that
Speaker 1: you're looking at him to do stuff that Christian is
Speaker 1: also doing at the same time, because you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like artists pain and all the feel a kind
Speaker 1: of more of the same cloth, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: really really hard nose between the tackles, not necessarily threats
Speaker 1: to catch out of the back field. And Ron has
Speaker 1: even said, like every year he seems to say, like
Speaker 1: artist pain has had a great camp. He's had a
Speaker 1: great camp, he's had a great past. Yeah, so is
Speaker 1: that enough to apparently you know, like isn't enough? So
Speaker 1: then who can jump over him in the preseason? Approved
Speaker 1: because it is kind of one of those well gosh,
Speaker 1: he's play and great, you want to keep him around,
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be interesting to see to
Speaker 1: once those roster cuts do come, how many running backs
Speaker 1: are they going to keep? Um if they're really going
Speaker 1: to buy into this lightning the load for Christian. But
Speaker 1: it was also funny to bring that up to some
Speaker 1: of the other offensive players and they're like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we're what it's Christian McCaffrey, Like if he's let him eat,
Speaker 1: Like if he he is who he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why they're giving the ball to him. So it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see. That's one thing that I am
Speaker 1: very just. I want to see how it plays out.
Speaker 1: How many are they going to have? And it's a
Speaker 1: shame that Scarlett's hurt because this is this is the
Speaker 1: time of year whereas a rookie you want to be
Speaker 1: out there playing and if you're you're behind, it's it
Speaker 1: can be tough to catch up, especially if guys go
Speaker 1: out there and really show out. So hopefully, um, he's
Speaker 1: able to recover quickly and get out there for weeks
Speaker 1: two of the preseason because it's this This is not
Speaker 1: the one the way you want to get this part
Speaker 1: of the year going. Yeah, for sure, plenty of other
Speaker 1: storylines to watch going into this game. You can check
Speaker 1: out all the content on Panthers dot com leading up
Speaker 1: to this Thursday night game in Chicago. Renevera returning to Chicago.
Speaker 1: He was there for a long time. It's always kind
Speaker 1: of fun to go home. Maybe a little bit that
Speaker 1: probably feels a little bit like home outside of Charlotte.
Speaker 1: So um, it'll certainly be a fun night in Chicago
Speaker 1: and a beautiful weather. Can we talk about it? Thank
Speaker 1: goodness we are going now and not later in this season.
Speaker 1: Big fan of that. But like I said, please join
Speaker 1: the conversation on Twitter. Tell us some things that exist
Speaker 1: but you don't really know why. And I found the
Speaker 1: nickname that was given for our producer here, Um Matt Sterp.
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty but he did, We're going
Speaker 1: with HOGI we go. Can we agree on Hogi? Matt
Speaker 1: Hogy Hogan. I like Matt Hogi Hogan. He also sent
Speaker 1: us a little fun fact on Columbus Day because we
Speaker 1: weren't sure. So federal offices they get Columbus Day off,
Speaker 1: but there's only twenty three states that give they're workers
Speaker 1: the day off. Tennessee. Officially, they're officially a big Columbus dat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all they're all in Ohio in on Columbus Day.
Speaker 1: Seem how their state capital is Ohio is I think
Speaker 1: makes sense, Ohio is there. So we've really come full
Speaker 1: circle here on the group chat. At least we went
Speaker 1: back to Columbus Day there and the nickname for hogi
Speaker 1: our producer. I like that one. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good one. But thank you so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on the group chat from Max McFadden and myself. We
Speaker 1: will see you next week. Wo