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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Monday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: Londay Texans Radio Studio. On a very special episode of

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Speaker 2: Texans All Access for Sports Radio six tens thirtieth anniversary,

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Speaker 2: John Harris alongside Mark vandermir Mark, I know you did

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Speaker 2: radio with John Lopez. You hung the proverbial radio sock

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Speaker 2: on the door and left me in the outside.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, But I was thinking of you the whole time.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I jumped on with Clinton this afternoon with the afternoon

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Speaker 2: guys near around four o'clock, and I made it very

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Speaker 2: very clear. But there was a big, big mistake made

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Speaker 2: in some sense, okay, that there's only one person that

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Speaker 2: speaks regularly on Sports Radio six ten now that was

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Speaker 2: doing radio on six ten in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Can you name that person?

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Speaker 3: That would be you're looking at me, Well, what about me?

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Speaker 1: Oh, in the nineties nineties? Yeah, I was never on

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Speaker 1: in the nineties. Okay, I was on in the ninety

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Speaker 1: eight I did.

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Speaker 2: I didn't show my buddy Lancer a lot at the time,

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Speaker 2: and then I ended up because I was living in

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Speaker 2: Florida it all the time. I would do college football

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Speaker 2: for an hour with Adam Wexler, and I can't remember

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Speaker 2: Adam's co host at the time, and I wasn't Matt

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Speaker 2: Jackson yet, Well, it wasn't Matt. It wasn't Matt yet.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who was Danny Vera, No, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: Danny Rob Costa, Nope, all right, No, we could go

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Speaker 2: down the list, but I would jump on every Friday,

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Speaker 2: I would talk college football. So I have been on

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Speaker 2: Sports Rais sixteen since nineteen ninety eight, with just a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a gap in between.

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Speaker 3: So four decades. You've spanned four different decades. Like Al

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Speaker 3: Davies used to call the Raiders the team of the

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Speaker 3: decades when they had like a cup of coffee in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Well it's more than a cup.

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Speaker 3: Of coffee and the O's, but he thought that qualified

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Speaker 3: them for O's nineties. What did they do in the

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Speaker 3: nineties again, they went to the AFC Championship game with

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Speaker 3: Archell that's.

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Speaker 1: Right early in the nineties against the Bill.

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Speaker 3: Oh's nineties, eighties. Obviously in seventies. So he said, it's

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Speaker 3: the team of the decades in the sixties. Anyway, you're

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Speaker 3: the announcer of the decades.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I had I from ninety eight to two

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Speaker 2: thousand and seven, and then it took a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a break and then got back in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 2: where I guess so i'd right, bring yeah, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a break.

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Speaker 3: Down and then think about his reunion show. There are

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Speaker 3: certain individuals who did not take.

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Speaker 1: Part, and it's tough.

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Speaker 3: I get it. It's radio. There are radio war is

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Speaker 3: still going on as we speak. But what a great

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Speaker 3: day though in still of area forty five coming up,

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Speaker 3: But what a great day to celebrate and to reminisce

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Speaker 3: and all the different names and stories.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome when John I heard John say this

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Speaker 2: to you, I've been John Lopez said he had been

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Speaker 2: on fifteen of those thirty half of those years, fifteen

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Speaker 2: those thirty years, and I was like, I was doing

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Speaker 2: the math.

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Speaker 1: I was like, one credible, Oh yeah, that has been

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. I mean for me, it's been eleven.

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Speaker 3: When Josh Inness said fifteen years, he said I was

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Speaker 3: twenty three when.

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Speaker 1: I started twenty two and now I'm thirty, And I thought.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah, because nine doesn't feel like

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Speaker 3: fifteen years does at all?

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Speaker 1: It does like ten twelve years ago. No, it does.

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Speaker 3: COVID time warp that we all went through that sort

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Speaker 3: of elongated yet shortened time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it, but it did something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I hear something happened in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's a couple of years ago. Like, no, wait,

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Speaker 2: it's seven years ago.

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Speaker 1: Whoa it did? Yeah, it blows my mind. Now with

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Speaker 1: all the.

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Speaker 2: With all the luminaries on Sports Radia six ten today

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Speaker 2: and you had a number them on their show on

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Speaker 2: your show today, and beyond there were others. There are

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Speaker 2: people talking and saying things about the Houston Texans. So

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Speaker 2: we're going to do one of my favorite games.

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Speaker 1: It's Sizzle Fire Hot take time. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, for those out there that have not been with

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Speaker 2: us for this, I give Mark a hot take. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Mark will rate the hot take one through five Sizzle

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Speaker 2: fires five, meaning it's the hottest take ever. Oh that's

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Speaker 2: crazy one, Okay, I can definitely see it happening. Yep,

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Speaker 2: So Mark rates at one to five.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Here, we're going to start with one that was on

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Speaker 2: your two Hours today with John Lopez.

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Speaker 1: Andy klu was on. Yep.

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Speaker 2: He said, now I'm paraphrasing all this, he said, Christian

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Speaker 2: Harris could be in All Pro for this defense rate

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Speaker 2: that sizzle fire.

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Speaker 1: Now, before you do that, all of.

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Speaker 2: These have been voiced by somebody, maybe at six ten,

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Speaker 2: maybe not. The second one is not at six ten.

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Speaker 2: But I actually heard it when Sean and Brady Scott.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about it today. But we'll get that one

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Speaker 2: a second. Andy klu says, Christian Harris could be in

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Speaker 2: All Pro for this defense. It would be his third

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Speaker 2: in his defense. Rate that hot take one to five

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Speaker 3: I would say it's two because look, I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's not possible. Can I phrase that better? I think

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Speaker 3: it's possible. How about that? Yeah, don't use double negatives,

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Speaker 3: vander Mare. It's not not possible, it's possible. But all

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Speaker 3: pro and I took it to mean this year, Johnny,

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Speaker 3: all pro means the top.

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Speaker 1: There's nowhere else to go.

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Speaker 3: You are the top or one of the top two

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough to pull off this year. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying it's impossible, but I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: very difficult. Now, I know he's outside in this, but

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Speaker 3: how do you describe this in a nickel when you

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Speaker 3: got two guys. I know, there's the middle, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's the mic, there's the signal caller, there's the green dot,

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Speaker 3: and that would be his ease and Harris is the

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Speaker 3: other guy. So outside inside, but in a four to

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Speaker 3: described it as an inside backer. Anyway, he's got to

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Speaker 3: be one of the top guys, the top guy in

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Speaker 3: pull up this year. Yeah, I think he could get

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Speaker 3: that distinction. I think Pro Bowl is Pro Bowl gettable,

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Speaker 3: right than All Pro. So that's why I gave it

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Speaker 3: a two. But I only gave it two sizzle fires

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Speaker 3: because hey, Harris is awesome, and look how much better

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Speaker 3: he got through the course of a season. Now he's

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Speaker 3: had another off season to work going into year three

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so. And if he and his he

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Speaker 2: stay healthy, boy, that is gonna be fun. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: one that I heard Sean Sean Peddergass, Brandon Scott play

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Speaker 2: on their show, and Brandon's gonna be with Sean for

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Speaker 2: the next couple of days.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty cool listen those two.

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Speaker 2: Rich Eisen and Felt Networks got his own podcast is

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Speaker 2: on radio show. He is doing a best case scenario

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Speaker 2: for all thirty two teams. I'm gonna give you just

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Speaker 2: one of these, but he mentioned c J. Strauda's MVP.

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Speaker 2: He mentioned Demiko Ryans as Coach of the Year. He

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Speaker 2: mentioned Will Anderson and your being a DPO Y.

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Speaker 1: Finalist. Okay, FTST player to your finalist, but I'll give

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Speaker 1: you this one. He said.

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Speaker 2: The best case scenario is winning the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 2: having the torch passed from Patrick Mahomes to CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 2: rate that hot take sizzle fire time go all right, Well.

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Speaker 3: That's a scenario he put out. If you're just talking

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Speaker 3: about that as a prediction.

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Speaker 2: That's his prediction. That's his best case scenario prediction.

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Speaker 3: That's I don't think that's that many sizzlefires. I think

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Speaker 3: that could happen. Yeah, I think that's in the rebel

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Speaker 3: possibility for sure. Look at what this team last did

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Speaker 3: last year. It's year two for the young players, Will

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Speaker 3: Anderson Junior, CJ. Stroud, Debiko Rise as a head coach,

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Speaker 3: the whole staff, everybody gets better in the offseason. That's

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Speaker 3: the hope. That's why it's the best case scenario. And

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Speaker 3: you go ahead and reach your maximum potential, which is

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Speaker 3: to bump off all the contenders in the AFC are

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Speaker 3: those you need to in the postseason, and then you

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Speaker 3: get to the super Bowl and win it in a

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Speaker 3: city that's not too far from each town. I would

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Speaker 3: say that's only a two sizzle fire hot take.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no reason why you have to wait.

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Speaker 1: We felt like this last year.

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Speaker 3: Last year, we thought, you know what, why wait, let's

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Speaker 3: go halftime of the Baltimore game. I'm getting something to

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Speaker 3: drink and I thought it's ten ten. We got them

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Speaker 3: right where we wanted by a way. We're getting to

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. I don't know what was coming up in

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Speaker 3: the second half. We're getting to Lamar Jackson. The offense

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Speaker 3: twenty one seventeen or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe twenty four to twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Who knows didn't happen, but ten ten and a half,

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Speaker 3: I was actually feeling really good. I was feeling much

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Speaker 3: better in that halftime scenario than I was in any

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Speaker 3: previous halftime of any Divisional Round playoff game the Texans

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Speaker 3: had played, including Baltimore year one of the playoff appearances

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Speaker 3: for the Texans. Of course, the two New England games

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Speaker 3: you're down fourth to half, felt very shaky about those,

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Speaker 3: and I felt very horrible about blowing twenty four nothing

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Speaker 3: there's just no hope. It felt like there was no

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Speaker 3: hope that you could come back from that.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Yeah, I mean I even even missing the

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Speaker 2: field goal going in at ten ten, I felt really

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Speaker 2: good because you remember, you know this, how it half

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Speaker 2: ended the defense sack la Mark Jackson twice and he

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Speaker 2: was pissed. He left the field with five seconds left

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Speaker 2: on the clock. It's only taking a knee and he

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Speaker 2: was done.

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Speaker 1: He was feared.

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Speaker 3: Didn't you feel like that kind of got some momentum

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Speaker 3: back that you would lost by missing.

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Speaker 1: The field goals? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Wait, we just got momentum back because they were gonna

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Speaker 3: throw it. They wanted to score some points before the break,

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Speaker 3: and we stopped it.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. I absolutely felt that way. I felt that way,

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Speaker 2: and I was down on the other I was on

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Speaker 2: the other side because I had to get to Miko

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Speaker 2: going into the locker room. So a lot of times,

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Speaker 2: you know, I stayed near as close to the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage as I can, but also near the half

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Speaker 2: I gotta go to the other end. When guys were

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Speaker 1: So hot, take John Harris and the Houston Texans. Okay,

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs will be closer to nine and eight than

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Speaker 1: I only give that a two.

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Speaker 1: Would have gone to Kansas City? Did there not?

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Speaker 2: Let's just rip down the chief schedule and see how

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Speaker 1: It's going to be tougher than people think.

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Speaker 2: They're at the Chargers the next week, Saints, then by

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Speaker 3: He didn't complain about it, but he said, if there's

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Speaker 1: Really, Denver could be tough.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty tough schedule. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Be favored in all those games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those will be not all those games, but most

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people underwrite the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: I think this schedule screams eleven and six.

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Speaker 1: I think it screams eleven.

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Speaker 3: Houston, Texas right now, give you eleven and six or

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna take? I think I'm gonna take eleven.

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Speaker 1: Take eleven and six all day. I'll take it. Gets

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Speaker 1: this team could be better.

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Speaker 2: But if you telling me eleven and six, that means

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Speaker 2: I'm with I'm overcoming all the injuries that are because

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Speaker 1: Right. I had it for some reason as I was

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I just was like, there're gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm Scottie going down, Scotty Quisenberry going down early. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here's another one. This one is from John Lopez. You

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I heard this as I was driving today. No, I

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is Matt Shob. Now this was not meant

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is Matt schab Rake. The sizzle fires of

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Speaker 3: So he also said it's not an insult to Trevor

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Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is a good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Was Matt a great quarterback relatively to this organization and

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Speaker 3: He's not elite, all right, Trevor Lawrence. I think Shab

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Speaker 3: There was a time when it looked like it was

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Speaker 3: eleven and parts of twenty twelve. We all know what

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence looks like to him. I think that's pretty

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Speaker 3: fair anyway, that's probably it's probably fair. It's not what

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Speaker 1: But a lot of number one, number two overall picks.

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Speaker 3: Jameis Winston do I have to go on? Actually, Jared

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Speaker 3: Goff has really done well for himself as.

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Speaker 1: The number one overall. He definitely has really kind of

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Speaker 3: And I've always Smithy, I've always kind of been at

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Speaker 1: I I was just watching him in college.

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Speaker 2: I always thought his ball placement, his arm acumen was

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Speaker 2: and it's easy, but Goff always put the ball on

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Speaker 2: He just threw to me an easy ball to catch

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Speaker 1: I think McVeigh under sold Golf.

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Speaker 2: I think Goff has proven him that, But I think

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Speaker 2: McVeigh also said, look, look what I can do with

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Speaker 1: So it's ended up being great on both sides.

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Speaker 2: But I just feel like Goff has always been incredibly underrated.

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Speaker 1: But you're running the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: I will give you Jared Goff for Trevor Lawrence straight up.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 2: Do it because I do think that there's a lot

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Speaker 2: more to Trevor that just hasn't been unearthed yet.

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Speaker 1: Now he's younger too. Will they right, will they ever

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Speaker 1: unearth it in Jacksonville? I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do think that there's more

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty good comp though. Yeah, it's a great comp.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good cop. Just as far as the

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Speaker 3: I'd say two and a half at the moment, two

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Speaker 3: and a half. It's not that hot a take. I

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Speaker 3: think it's a good take. I think it's an accurate take.

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Speaker 3: I kind of like it.

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Speaker 1: It's a thought provoking take.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like that one. Okay.

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Speaker 2: This next one comes from one of my favorite groups

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Speaker 2: of all time, a player grading system website called PFF.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your fave? Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: All decade NFL mock draft the best draft pick at

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Speaker 2: every slot since twenty fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, all first round picks, all first.

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Speaker 2: Round picks at the particular position in which they were drafted.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so like this would be the best eleventh pick ever.

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Speaker 1: Since twenty fifteen. Right, so we know who that is?

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Speaker 1: We know twenty fifteen. PFF says.

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Speaker 2: That Nick Bosa is a better pick at number two

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Speaker 2: than Coleridge Bernard Stroud hot take.

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Speaker 1: Five. That's fo. He's a quarterback. Nick Bosa is great.

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Speaker 1: It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: This is a quarterback who jumps into a three win

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Speaker 1: Come on, what are we doing here? Yeah? That's a

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Speaker 1: five sizzle fire hot take. Now that is so bad. Five.

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Speaker 2: I finally found the five. It's too hot. It's too hot.

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Speaker 2: This is what PFF said. Miles Garrett was the one

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Speaker 2: they picked at number one, which the two players they

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, oh, boy, Burrow might be the way

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Speaker 2: But then I thought, you know, twenty twenty Burrows hurt,

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Speaker 3: Nick right kind of take this morning about Burrow always,

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Speaker 3: Oh he did. He's one injury away from being you know,

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Speaker 1: You'd have to say that, you almost have to, you

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Speaker 1: almost have to say it. Now.

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Speaker 2: There are people that think that Joe Burrow is going

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Speaker 2: to be on the cover of Madden. They're like putting

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Speaker 2: the clues together. I'm like, what, No, it's no way

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Speaker 2: Madden does that. I don't think Madden does that now.

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Speaker 2: So this is what PFF had to say, Like Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 2: Bosa has been dominant since he entered the league, is

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Speaker 2: a dpoy Warden's Trophy case with elite PFF grades and

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Speaker 2: almost every year of his career. The two players that

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Speaker 1: The other one was.

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Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson, Aiden Hutchinson, They continued, Aiden Hutchinson and CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud are off to good starts, but Moosa is still

440
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Speaker 2: far ahead because of his sustained level of elite play.

441
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 3: Well, CJ was just drafted, so we can't put together

442
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 3: the body of work in one year, but the body

443
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 3: of work he put together in one year is record setting.

444
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 3: I didn't go over his individual numbers. I just talked

445
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Speaker 3: about the victories, the victorious season and a playoff victory.

446
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 3: I didn't mention the fact that he was shattering records

447
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 3: week after week, rookie records.

448
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: We were reaching for the record.

449
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 3: Books guys who hadn't done stuff like this since the seventies.

450
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Speaker 1: Or ever or whatever.

451
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Speaker 3: So I think you have to give him his due,

452
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Speaker 3: and for this exercise, best pick every position.

453
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: Yep.

454
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks to me, should probably always went out. Now, Burrow,

455
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: you brought up a good point with the injuries, but

456
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: he led the Bengals to a Super Bowl. Now, Nick Bosa,

457
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 3: he's played in two of them, all right, and he

458
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: was a big reason why they got there. But he

459
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: wasn't the reason why they got there anymore than you know,

460
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: the quarterback just takes up so much of the credit

461
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Speaker 3: and the debit to a team's success or failure.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

463
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So they did this for every single position. So

464
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, do they have any Texans on here?

465
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Speaker 2: And as I'm going through here, it's since twenty fifteen,

466
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 2: sins twenty fifteen. So Larimi Tunsel was at number thirteen.

467
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 2: Now he was a draft pick of the Dolphins, but

468
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Speaker 2: he was listed also listed at number twenty one. I

469
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: thought this was interesting because I heard his name today

470
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Speaker 2: an interview. Will Fuller was another one that was considered

471
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Speaker 2: at number twenty one. They gave it to Trent McDuffie

472
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Speaker 2: from the Chiefs. So I think it is tremendous.

473
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Speaker 1: Hey, do you have the list in front of you? Yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: read me quickly. Twenty one through thirty two. Okay, cool,

475
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: here's what it came up with.

476
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Speaker 2: So will Fuller was listened as another other person considered

477
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Speaker 2: a number twenty one who was number Treat McDuffie.

478
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 1: So is Trent McDuffie.

479
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: And then Quity pay was mentioned and will Fuller was

480
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: mentioned twenty two.

481
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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson Vikings.

482
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Speaker 2: Okay, great, twenty three, Christian darrisov Vikings twenty four, DJ

483
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Speaker 2: Moore Carolina Panthers, alright, twenty five, Brandon i Yuk San

484
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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers right, others considered Travis E. T

485
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 2: In twenty six, Jordan Love, I mean it's got one

486
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Speaker 2: one year.

487
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Speaker 1: Who was who else was considered? Twenty six?

488
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Speaker 2: Montes Sweat all right, Calvin Ridley. I don't get the Ridley.

489
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Speaker 2: You know how I feel about Ridley. I don't get

490
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Speaker 2: the Ridley.

491
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Speaker 3: Twenty six has been a little weak, I mean relatively right, right,

492
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Speaker 3: first round draft choice, yeah, twenty seven, Kenny Clark, Packer's

493
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: very good player twenty eight, Patrick Queen all right, Baltimore Ramas.

494
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Speaker 2: Twenty nine, David Njoku Cleveland Browns, number thirty, TJ Watt

495
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, thirty one, Caleb McGarry the off it's tackle

496
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: for the Falcons and number thirty two, very easy quarterback

497
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.

498
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Speaker 3: How about TJ and JJ drafted eleventh and thirtieth respectively,

499
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 3: and their DPO wise.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's incredible. Yeah, that's incredible.

501
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: It And I don't want to say there's such different players,

502
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: but they really were.

503
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Speaker 1: I mean JJ is to ninety. Yeah, you know, TJ's

504
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: to fifty.

505
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: Totally and completely different players, and yet they've learned from

506
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Speaker 2: one another.

507
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: They did learn from one another.

508
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: And you still see some of the things that in

509
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: TJ that JJ used. He just does a smaller size.

510
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: It's been, it's been incredible. That was kind of an

511
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: interesting one to look at. Will Fuller mentioned, which leads

512
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Speaker 2: me to this final one. And I'm trying to figure

513
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Speaker 2: out how to say this.

514
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know if it's a hot take. It's

515
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Speaker 1: like he said this.

516
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien was on podcasts Adam Brenneman and Christian hackimerg's

517
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: former Penn State players, two players he recruited to go

518
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: to Penn State, had him for one year, and then

519
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: he came to Houston, Texans.

520
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Speaker 1: I think i'll just ask you like this.

521
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Speaker 2: When Bill O'Brien says, I wish I wouldn't have been

522
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Speaker 2: the GM for the Houston Texans dot dot Do you

523
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: believe it? What do you think the impact would have been?

524
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Speaker 2: How do you take that statement into account? It's kind

525
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Speaker 2: of a hot take in some sense. I don't know

526
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Speaker 2: if it sounds a little bit regretful, but one of

527
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Speaker 2: your thoughts. When Bill O'Brien says, as he did on

528
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Speaker 2: his podcast, I wish I wouldn't have been the GM

529
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Speaker 2: with the Texans.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think he understands now in retrospect that that

531
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Speaker 3: probably led to probably led to the end of his

532
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Speaker 3: time here. And he brought up a very good point

533
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: in the podcast. He said, negotiating contracts and dealing with

534
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: contract value of players affected his relationship with the players,

535
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 3: and only a few people in the history of football

536
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: would be able to pull that off, and he said

537
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: he's not one of them.

538
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he mentioned Belichick and Lombardy. Those are the two

539
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: names brought up.

540
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Speaker 3: Think about that because he knew that he's a good coach.

541
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: He won a lot of games here, but that affected

542
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: his ability to relate to the players, which obviously is

543
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: going to affect the coaching performance. And he said, I

544
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: shouldn't have been negotiating contracts. He said he didn't like

545
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Speaker 3: negotiating contracts. Ye, So, I mean obviously a lot of

546
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: fans listening to us thinking, well, now you tell us,

547
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: But it happened, and I think it showed great sincerity

548
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: and awareness, and I think this is wonderful for him.

549
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Speaker 1: Honestly, Johnny. This is great for Bill O'Brien because.

550
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Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien shows that you can learn, change, grow, develop,

551
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: you know, past fifty, and evolve and get better at things. Right, So,

552
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: and I hope for his sake and for BC's sake,

553
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Speaker 3: that he does.

554
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Speaker 1: He has Bears with him. Who's this patriot.

555
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: Guru of dealing with people? What is this title chief

556
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: of staff or something? My staff at the bus house.

557
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: He's a great guy for Bill O'Brien to hire. That's probably.

558
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what else he's done there.

559
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: And I know he's got Will Long with him, and

560
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: we like Will a lot. As the my hot take,

561
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: what's your hot take? Had Bears been here as opposed

562
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Speaker 3: to others.

563
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: Oh, he might still be here. That's exactly right. They

564
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: might want a super That's exactly where my hot take.

565
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: Bears is awesome, you know, considering the people they had here,

566
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: the talent they had here, because O'Brien would listen to Bears,

567
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: because Bears is the guru.

568
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: Belichick listened to Bears.

569
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Speaker 3: So O'Brian's gonna listen to Bears and maybe it would

570
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: have all worked out. Now, BC, it's gonna be tougher

571
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: because they have nil And it's not just drafting guys.

572
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Speaker 1: It's right college.

573
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Speaker 3: It's brutal right now in this universe especially, So I

574
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: don't think it's.

575
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Speaker 1: That hot to take.

576
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: I think it's an obvious analysis to many observing. But

577
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: to hear him say it, I thought was eye opening. Yeah,

578
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: all right, wow. I was like, okay, wow, okay, man.

579
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: Now he did mention.

580
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: He did mention that he was instrumental in making Larry

581
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: m and Tunsel trade. So he did mention that, which

582
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: he should. I mean, I think we're gonna look back.

583
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: He didn't make the trade.

584
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: He did make the trade, and he also traded Hopkins.

585
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: But when you're the when you're the GM, you're gonna

586
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: make moves like that. You're gonna make a great move,

587
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna make a bad move.

588
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: Those things.

589
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: I just wish that instead of being, oh my god,

590
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: that's one of the great trades ever.

591
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's one of the worst trades ever.

592
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: I just wish there would have been kind of some some.

593
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Right, you're gonna make mistakes, it's slightly bad versus slightly good.

594
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: I just you know, he brought up another good point

595
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: about when you come into the organization and you have

596
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: the GM and his staff and you and your staff,

597
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: and look, you all work together to develop the team.

598
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: And in this case he's talking about Rick Smith at

599
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 3: the time, but not You're not going to agree all

600
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: the time, right, and that's obvious, right, but you hope

601
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: to work together and produce a good result. He had

602
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: three consecutive winning seasons right out of the shoot. I

603
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: know there were nine and sevens two division titles. We

604
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: don't have to go over his record entirely, but he

605
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: won a lot of games and four division titles and

606
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: a couple of playoff games, and that was great because

607
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: a lot of teams don't even get to do that.

608
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: So I give him credit for that. And it's interesting

609
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: to hear him say these things now. But you know what,

610
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: it feels fine because the best thing that ever happened

611
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: to this organization, I want to say, maybe ever Johnny

612
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: is Demiko Ryans getting higher. Absolutely, you know, as great

613
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 3: as Gary Kubia. How we got to as great as

614
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: JJ is, as great as Andre Johnson is. I think

615
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Speaker 3: I agree. I think this is it. This is the

616
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: guy immediate dividends paid. I am in for this ride

617
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: as long, you know for e Tarnity Demico Ryans. Yes,

618
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: working in concert with Nick Casserio to put this team

619
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: together is phenomenal so far.

620
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Speaker 1: And I know, one year in let's see where it goes.

621
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Speaker 1: But I think it's going some really exciting places.

622
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I was in North

623
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: Carolina this weekend. I was talking to my family. Was

624
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: up there for my father in law's ninetieth birthday, and

625
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: he's just a gem of a human being and I.

626
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: Love being around him.

627
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: And my brothers in law were there with their wives

628
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: and so we had aught a chance to kind of

629
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: sit down and just share about all the things that

630
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: we're doing. And of course when it got you know

631
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: time for me, they wanted to know all about CJ,

632
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: and they want to know about you know, everything was

633
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: going on here, and I just said, you know, obviously

634
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: Nick comes into twenty one and he goes through the muck.

635
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: He you know, he helps us get through the muck.

636
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: He's cleaning the cap up, he's doing some things. He

637
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: obviously trades to Sean, which that was such a hard time.

638
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: I said, But when Dimico came in, that changed everything,

639
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: and that is going to be some you know, a

640
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: point where we look at like you could tell the

641
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 2: cargo ship was starting to turn a little bit.

642
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: You can kind of feel it.

643
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: But then Dimico came in and took the wheel and

644
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: they grabbed the wheel together, and it all of a

645
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: sudden it's turning around and going into the direction.

646
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden it is gathering momentum.

647
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: And I said, because my my brother in law, Mark,

648
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: you just said how good? How good would you guys

649
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: be this year? And I said, you know, Mark, I

650
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: don't say this often. I said, I think we're going

651
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: to be really good. Wow, I said, a lot of

652
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: it comes down to injuries and all that. Yeah, And

653
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this. You know, people

654
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: call us homers and all that. We like to when

655
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: you guys are you listeners are out there are like,

656
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, this guy's falling. We like say, hey,

657
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: look it's okay, put a positive spin on it. It's

658
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: gonna be okay. Look at this, Look at this. We're

659
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: not maybe not that bad here. The one thing we

660
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: don't always say is we're pretty freaking good. Yeah, you know,

661
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: when we could be pretty freaking good, we could be

662
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: pretty freaking good. This year, And that's my hot take,

663
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: and that's got a sizzle fire of zero. There's no

664
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: sizzle fire in that, because this team could be very, very,

665
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: very good. But obviously things have to break right as

666
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: they have for teams that have kind of broken through.

667
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: When the Bengals broke through in twenty one, they had

668
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 2: some good luck and good fortune. Just did it. They

669
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: had some good luck and good fortune.

670
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: It's still a tournament at the end of the day,

671
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: at the end of the here, like look at the

672
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Chiefs last year.

673
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: This is for down double digits in every game in

674
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Yeah, won all three games they played, so

675
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: a lot of good things.

676
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: I don't recall twenty nineteen being down double figures against

677
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: Oh never mind stop.

678
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's lock and round there now two guys that

679
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: are gonna be instrumental from the tight end group we're

680
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: gonna hear from tonight, Brevin Jordan and Andrew Beck. Brev's

681
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: gonna join us next and talk about that touchdown that

682
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: he really doesn't want to talk about anymore.

683
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll discuss that next on Texans All Access. What's up, everybody?

684
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Monday edition of Texans All Access from

685
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: thend Texans radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris Football

686
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: on a sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. It's tight

687
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: and night right here on All Access. So we're gonna

688
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 2: start with Brevin Jordan. We got Andrew Beck coming up,

689
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: Andrews full back till tight end close enough, so we'll

690
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: have both of those for you as we dive in

691
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: with Brev, one of our faves. There's been a lot

692
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: of talk effect. I saw a tweet a post today

693
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: at some point. I can't remember who put it up there,

694
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: but essentially paraphrasing, it was, you know something the extent

695
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: of expecting a big year from Brevin Jordan. I hope

696
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: we get a big year from Brev. He's just a wonderful,

697
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: wonderful dude, a wonderful guy. Now in his fourth year.

698
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: I hope this is the year that really breaks out.

699
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: He's had such great moments at times throughout his career,

700
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: and hopefully he can sustain that through the twenty twenty

701
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: four season. That would be fun to watch. We caught

702
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: up with Brev during Media Days and here's what that

703
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: sounded like me Mark, Brevin Jordan.

704
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Let's go Brevin Jordan joining us in the studio. Great

705
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: to see you you too.

706
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: Man.

707
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: All right, so how's it going for you so far?

708
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: You got OTA's MIDI camp, you got the big break?

709
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: Tell us about your off season.

710
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 5: I'm here, man, I've been here since February, you know,

711
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 5: just getting to it, just making sure the small details

712
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: on my body are right. I literally, I mean, I

713
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 5: took like a two week break. I went to Costa

714
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 5: Rica for like five days, six days, and came back

715
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: and I've been here. I've been I've been at like

716
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: pretty much at ot As. I've been here with the

717
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: training staff. So I'm excited, man. But during this break,

718
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 5: I'm about to take like a four day break and

719
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: I'm right back here.

720
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: Wow.

721
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, go home? You going to Vegas? No, man, I

722
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: don't go back to Vegas.

723
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: Man.

724
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: I love Vegas.

725
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 5: But only time I go back to Vegas is just

726
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: to get some Mama's home cooks for Yeah, you know.

727
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 5: Other than that, there's no need for me to really

728
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: be there.

729
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: And I saw.

730
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: I told Mark he's got to watch this on HBO Max.

731
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: They've got a four part documentary. It's called Vegas The

732
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: Building of Sin City. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool

733
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: to see that city kind of built up the way

734
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: that there's You came in here as a rookie in

735
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, now you come in here as a

736
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: grizzled vet going into your four It's amazing to think about.

737
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: And you talked about being here to work and the

738
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: transformation of your body. If you think back to your

739
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: rookie year and you think back to where you are now,

740
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: what's been like, what's been kind of your focus? Is

741
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: it to get bigger? Is it to get more ripped?

742
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: Is it to be more flexible? What is it that

743
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: you wanted to get with your body? If you think

744
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: back to your rookie yar and what you were and

745
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: what you are now, what is it that you wanted

746
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: to What was your goal?

747
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 5: The goal is to ultimately be a better football player.

748
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 5: That was the end goal.

749
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: You know.

750
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 5: Just working on stuff like your flexibility, your mobility, your strength,

751
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: all of that stuff is a combination to ultimately be

752
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: a better football player, you know what I mean.

753
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: So for my rookie year, man, it's crazy.

754
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: I look back to my rookie year and I was like, man,

755
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 5: I feel like I didn't know anything bro like like,

756
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 5: and I don't mean like literally, but like it's just

757
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: like I feel like I was a deer in the headlights, bro,

758
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 5: and like now being in the building being.

759
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: A you know, a vet. Yeah, Like like you said,

760
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm a vet.

761
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: Now it's like, man, You've learned so much, you know,

762
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 5: and I've just appreciated, you know, being in this building, man,

763
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: because I've had a lot of vets come in and

764
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: out of this building, and just overall in my mind,

765
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 5: my body, everything from my rookie year has definitely improved.

766
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look bigger in a good way.

767
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: You know.

768
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: This is for most people on the street, you look bigger.

769
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 3: It's not a combination, all right, But.

770
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 5: For yeah, yeah I'm believing or not, I'm the exact

771
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 5: same weight for my rookie year, the exact same way. Yeah,

772
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 5: exact same weight. Nothing in shade waight wise, it is

773
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 5: just adding muscle, you know, losing body fat. We know

774
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 5: our training staff and our our sports line team does

775
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 5: an unbelievable job our nutrition. This lad that his team,

776
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: they do an unbelievable job with the dexters and tracking

777
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: our body percentage and our muscle mass, and they are

778
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: doing an unbelievable job. And so I've had a lot

779
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 5: of help, you know, getting to the point where I'm

780
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: at now for sure. Okay, let's talk.

781
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: About Uh, it was it January tenth or whatever it

782
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: was Energy Stadium, Brown's playoff game kind of a little

783
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: bit of a shootout taking place kind of back and forth,

784
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: and then you guys called play that you called against

785
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: the Jets.

786
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I remember you ran this against the Jets. Yep, exactly.

787
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: It's the same play.

788
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: You line up at tighten, you kind of bet kind

789
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: of goes underneath you, you kind of go to the

790
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: flat and you catch the ball and you turn up, Hey,

791
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: what are you thinking at that particular point?

792
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: And b did you think you were gonna go absolutely

793
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: untouched all the way?

794
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 5: Honestly, when I got the ball, like the angle of

795
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 5: the defender that was coming at me when he was

796
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 5: trying to tackle me was very odd. Like I like,

797
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 5: it all happened so fast. I didn't think I was

798
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: gonna go untouched, but I knew I was gonna make

799
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 5: the first guy. Then it's like the seas just parted

800
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 5: once I made the first guy miss, and I just

801
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: just ran fast as I can. It was, honestly, believe

802
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 5: it or not, I'm tired hearing about that play because honestly,

803
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 5: I love it. I love the fact that I made

804
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: that play, but I saw there's so much more, Bro,

805
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: I can do. I feel like that was unbelievable play

806
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 5: for me in my career, BRO. But I'm excited, man,

807
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 5: this year. I'm fired up man to go out there

808
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 5: and show you know, the NFL, you know that I

809
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 5: can do that every week.

810
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Bro, I can do that every week.

811
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: I think the reason I bring it up because obviously

812
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: it's such a big play in that game, but the

813
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: roar in the crowd when you started taking off down

814
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: the sidelines, did.

815
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: You sense that? Could you feel that? Did you hear

816
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: all that? So what's going on when you're in the

817
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: in the midst of a play? But did you set

818
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: all of that na man?

819
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: Honestly, to me, that playoff game felt like another game

820
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 5: to me, Like believe it or not, it didn't feel

821
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: like like every game leading up to that point for

822
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: me was just like capitalize on my opportunities, like do

823
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 5: what you can capitalize, make no mistakes. So to me,

824
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: that game felt like another just another regular he's in game,

825
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 5: Like just go out here and capitalize on our opportunities

826
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: and I was just I was just ready for the moment.

827
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: Was unbelievable.

828
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: What's it like being with the other tight ends in

829
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: the room with Jake Morland, you know when we're talking

830
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: about Dalton and Cad coming in all the rest of.

831
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: It, Brevian super dope room man. Honestly, like the camaraderie

832
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: that we all have.

833
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 5: We're like, our room is super You don't see this

834
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: in a lot of a lot of other rooms, but

835
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 5: like our rooms super unselfish we have. You know, we

836
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 5: have bollers from A to Z, and everybody's just all

837
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: about supporting one another in and seeing the other guy,

838
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 5: you know, be successful and make plays. Is we have

839
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 5: a super cool room. Cool room man, like to have

840
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: Dalton to have tea, and like we have a mixture

841
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: of everybody. You know, we got a rookie, we got

842
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: an older guy who's making a ton of money. We

843
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: got a good coach who's young, he's passionate. It's it's

844
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 5: a super cool room.

845
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty four, Brevan, how does this not

846
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: only the offense, but this organization, this team take the

847
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: next step. How do we get past that divisional playoff

848
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: round to get to the NFC Championship, to get beyond

849
00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: that to a Super Bowl.

850
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 5: How does this team go about doing that? Everybody just

851
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 5: has to be on all cylinders every play, every day.

852
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: We we have to capitalize on every moment that we

853
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: have it together as a team like we can't. We

854
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: can't let one day passes by. We have to understand

855
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 5: that last year is not this year. And I believe honestly,

856
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 5: as a team, we fully understand that. We understand the expectations.

857
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 5: We understand the primetime games, the tougher schedule, we understand

858
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 5: all of that. And nobody's flinched. Nobody's flinching about anything.

859
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 5: Nobody's you know, putting any expects Like nobody in that

860
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: locker room. We're just gonna go one day at a

861
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: time about our business and we know at the end

862
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 5: of the four quarters the outcome will speak for so so.

863
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: The team will be in the Hall of Fame game

864
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: because got a Hall of Fame or Andre Johnson Hurricane, Yes,

865
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: Sir Devin Hester also going in Hurricane. You didn't play

866
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: with those guys, of course, but what does that mean

867
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: to you? If anything?

868
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 5: Super cool man, honestly like to see those two guys

869
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 5: who and I know that like when they're playing, when

870
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 5: they're in the NFL, when they're playing, they don't think

871
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 5: about I'm going to be a Hall of Fame like

872
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: like obviously, like that's the end goal for everybody that

873
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 5: makes it in the in the NFL. But to see

874
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 5: like those guys like especially Andre, like Andre went to

875
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 5: the U played for the Texans, like it's like we're

876
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: in the same footsteps, you know, like we're like I

877
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 5: can relate to him, I can understand him.

878
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: Man.

879
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: The work is what's separates to you know, like he

880
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: puts it. He put in the work to get there.

881
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 5: And it's super cool, man, because that's the end goal

882
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 5: for for any young player in the end for anybody

883
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 5: in the NFL is to one day receive a gold jacket.

884
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. All right, Brevin, thanks a lot for

885
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: joining us. I appreciate you, guys.

886
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: Man, seeing that dude grow up and really become a

887
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: tremendous professional. Great dude, He's always been a great guy,

888
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: tremendous smile, gregarious.

889
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 5: On the air.

890
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: Uh, this is really good stuff. So Brevin Jordan, excellent,

891
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: excellent job. We really appreciate him being here with us.

892
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: Now his tight end roommate is full back, h back,

893
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: f tight end, whatever you want to call him. Why

894
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: tight end? Andrew Back comes in next right here in

895
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Texantal Access. What do wait to start the week?

896
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: I got a good segment with Mark talking about some

897
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: hot takes going around the media world about the Texans.

898
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: And we had a chance to catch up with Brevin Jordan.

899
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: And now on our final segment of Texans All Access

900
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: with me your host, John Harris, Football on the.

901
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: Sideline Reporter, it's time for Andrew Beck. Always loved when

902
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Beck comes in.

903
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: He's funny, he is straight to the point, honest, really

904
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: good dude, great interview.

905
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: Here's Andrew Beck with me and Mark.

906
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: Okay, here we are embarking on another campaign. How's it

907
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: been for you this offseason getting ready for the twenty

908
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: four campaign.

909
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: That's been great.

910
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: You know.

911
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: I'm just runing around trying to get healthy, keep up

912
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: with all the new guys that we're signing and bringing

913
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: in stuff like that. Man, it's been fun.

914
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: We had Jake Morlin in here and we were talking

915
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: about you and what are you. You're a tight end,

916
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: You're a fullback, You're a little bit of everything. You

917
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: return kickoffs for touchdowns, to do it all.

918
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: That's exactly the more you can do. That's what they

919
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: say keeps you around in this league. I'm just trying

920
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: to hang on.

921
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So we want to ask you seventeen to ten Jacksonville,

922
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: Week three, we want to talk. I've been wanting to

923
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: talk about this for a while and the kickoff is

924
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: coming to you.

925
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: So, as an up guy in the old kickoffs, the

926
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: one thing I tell you is don't back.

927
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: Back up right, No, contrary to what you saw, they

928
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: still tell us that back up then you drop the

929
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 4: ball started off.

930
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: What point are you thinking, Oh, hell, I gotta make

931
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: something happen or I'm gonna be in a lot of trouble.

932
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: As soon as I dropped the ball, because as soon

933
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 4: as I dropped the ball, you can't hear it when

934
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: they run it back. But Boone was close enough that

935
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: he yelled. He like yelled something to me that we

936
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: won't say. Yeah right, but he like yelled something to me,

937
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: And I was just in that moment. I was like,

938
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: all right, well you got to score now.

939
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

940
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: We just picked it up and took off. For dear life,

941
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: When were you thinking, oh, I could score.

942
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: As soon as I got away from that first little

943
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: like picked it up and they survived the first little bit.

944
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: As soon as I looked up and kind of had

945
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: an edge, I was like, I'm going to catch the

946
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: corner on this because I looked up and it was

947
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: B Mack, who I was with in Denver for a while,

948
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: so I knew, and you know, I was like, I

949
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 4: can't get.

950
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: Technically the kicker.

951
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: So we caught the edge man and it worked out

952
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: all right. It worked out all right.

953
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: Caught the TD against the Colts YEP, last game of

954
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 3: the regular season. What's it like when you go out

955
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: you you're open, you know that the ball's coming your way.

956
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.

957
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: With seven? What was it like playing with him? Right?

958
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: That one? That one was fun?

959
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: It was cool, especially the play that we scored on

960
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: an indie because we'd run that play for like three

961
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: weeks a bunch of different times in practice, and at

962
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 4: no point did I ever get the ball in any

963
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: of the practice reps anything like that. And so sure enough,

964
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: that's just how it always goes. It's like you run

965
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 4: the wrong route, you're definitely gonna get the ball. Didn't

966
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 4: get it all week in practice. So it just ran

967
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: out and just everybody dropped me over there. But you

968
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: turned around, you being a vet, you know those things.

969
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hey, are you ready for anything?

970
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: Right?

971
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: So the unwritten rules of football, like I said, like

972
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: you know, that's just that's how it goes. And it

973
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: worked out great and fortunately ended up winning that one. Man,

974
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: that one was a lot of fun too. It's like

975
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: the energy when everybody shows the clip from that game,

976
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 4: right when the Miko and seven come running back in

977
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: the locker room. The energy from that moment was one

978
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: of the coolest things from last season. I mean it was.

979
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: It was probably one of the greatest feelings from the

980
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 4: whole season.

981
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: What do you think, Andrew are just in your opinion?

982
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: What made last year I mean, winning games?

983
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 4: I get it?

984
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: What made last year's team special? What was it about

985
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: that group of guys?

986
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: You know, to have a group of guys who, in

987
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: the first year that you get a new staff, show

988
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: the level of commitment and buy into the message that

989
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 4: he's trying to build from. You know, the old guys

990
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: who have been here to you know, you know, for

991
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: like Case and Laramie, those guys, to the young guys

992
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: coming in you know seven and will those guys to

993
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: have everybody buy into the culture that a coach is

994
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 4: trying to establish in the very first season. I mean

995
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 4: that just goes to show what, you know, the results

996
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: you can have when something like that happens, right, you know,

997
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: you guys, you get a bunch of guys that buy in,

998
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: and even though it's a first year coach, you can

999
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: still still make a pretty significant run. And I think

1000
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: we kind of proved that, and you know, it's it's

1001
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: one of the things that sets the bar so hot

1002
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: for this season. But fortunately we got a group of

1003
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: guys that aren't shying away from the challenge. We're all

1004
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: kind of embracing it and talking about how we're gonna

1005
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: be better than last season. You know, a lot of

1006
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: it is, you know, increasing competition just in the locker room,

1007
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: just amongst us. You know, coaches don't have to kind

1008
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: of stoke the fire anymore. You know, we can kind

1009
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: of pick at each other and you know, I'll look

1010
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: at Christian Harris and be like, hey man, I'm gonna

1011
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: win this rep and he's like, no, you're not. You know,

1012
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 4: just things like that, you know, fun things that increase competition.

1013
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 4: I think us how you make teams better and you

1014
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: know something we're really focusing on this offseason.

1015
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Beck with us.

1016
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: You've got running back DNA, tight end DNA obviously, but

1017
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: give me your running back DNA evaluation of Joe Mixing

1018
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: so far and also your tight end DNA evaluation of

1019
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: Kate Stover so far.

1020
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I mean, you guys have seen

1021
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: what Joe does on the field. You know, he's an

1022
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 4: unbelievable guy. Kind of getting to watch him go through

1023
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: this offseason program. But the biggest thing that sticks out

1024
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 4: is his you know, speed and explosiveness. You guys, obviously

1025
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: he's a big, strong kid. But how quick he gets

1026
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: out of his stance in the backfield and gets back

1027
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmage, gets his you know, first

1028
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: three steps in the ground and is able to make

1029
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 4: a move at full speed and continue gaining vertical yards

1030
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: is special. And you know there's things you got to

1031
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: kind of take note of in the backfield when you're

1032
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: in front of him. I was like, you know, I

1033
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: better get out of my stands or he's gonna be

1034
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: running up my back really quick. So but obviously, you

1035
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: know he's he's gonna be really good for us, and

1036
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: you know, we wanted to improve the run game going

1037
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: into this year. I definitely think between you know, him

1038
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: and everybody else in that room, you know dp everybody else,

1039
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: all right, we're we're we have the guys to be

1040
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: successful if we can commit to it. So I'm excited

1041
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 4: for what that holds. And same thing with Stover, you know,

1042
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: getting to work with him. He's a you know, really

1043
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 4: obviously physically talented kid, and he came in with a

1044
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 4: good head on his shoulders, really just wants to learn.

1045
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: He's been a sponge since he walked in the room,

1046
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: which is really good because I think that's the biggest thing,

1047
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 4: you know, the transition for our position. Obviously it's tough physically,

1048
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 4: but the mental side of it. A lot of people

1049
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: don't really get going from college to the NFL. He's

1050
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: been doing a really good job so far, which makes

1051
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: it fun to work with him, you know, from an

1052
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: older guy's perspective, because you know, we can just talk

1053
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: like Chelsea and I talk normally.

1054
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: You know what.

1055
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 4: He's been in the league for a couple of years

1056
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 4: and he keeps up with us, so he's a special

1057
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: player as well.

1058
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 2: Andrew, you mentioned it with mixing behind you or DP

1059
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: behind you or DARI or whomever it is. How important

1060
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: is it for you to know which back is behind you?

1061
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: And does that change your approach and how you whatever

1062
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: the play might be. Oh, I got I've got player

1063
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: X behind me, right, I gotta get going, or hey,

1064
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: I know this guy likes a little bit more of this.

1065
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: You know his vision will lead him here, so I

1066
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: need to go here. How does that change who's behind

1067
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: you how you approach a particular play.

1068
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 4: I mean, yes and no, it changes it, but it

1069
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: doesn't in the sense of like, all three of them

1070
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: are extremely everybody in the room. They're all very explosive players,

1071
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: so you have to get going because they're going to

1072
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: get those sciences. The biggest key to this offense is

1073
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: running off the ball, and you know they they do

1074
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 4: it better than any other position group, that's for sure.

1075
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: So knowing that, and you know, you get into the

1076
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 4: little intricacies of how each guy runs. But as as

1077
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: far as how it pertains to my job, it's a

1078
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: little bit easier. You know, I do need to know

1079
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: who's back there in the sense of your right, Like,

1080
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: they all three have little different running styles. But at

1081
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: the end of the day, man, it's about it's about,

1082
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 4: you know, maintaining speed, starting fast, maintaining speed and just

1083
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: gaining vertical yards. And all three of them do it

1084
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: really well. So you know, if I can consistently do

1085
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: my job, I know that, you know, they'll make me

1086
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 4: right nine times out of ten. And they say the

1087
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: same thing. You know, I do a good job of

1088
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: Hopefully I do a good job of going up to

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Speaker 4: my hey, man, what you see you know, what can

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Speaker 4: I do to help? And they I'll say the same thing,

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Speaker 4: Just do your job and we'll make you right. And

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Speaker 4: you know it's it builds confidence when you lead blocking

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Speaker 4: for guys who you know, that's their answer. It makes

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Speaker 4: my job easy. Man, it's just run forward and hit somebody.

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Speaker 1: All right, great job.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, Andrew, absolutely, thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it now, Andrew, we appreciate you, and Brev and

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Speaker 2: Mark and all of you for listening. And my guys

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Speaker 2: at back at SPORTSOREO six ' ten. Happy anniversary. It's

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Speaker 2: a great day. June tenth, it's six ' ten day.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you. We'll see tomorrow, buddy, And as always,

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Speaker 2: Go Texans.