Speaker 1: It is Monday, January ten. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick. It's
Speaker 1: the final show of the season and we've got a
Speaker 1: busy program. Is always CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco
Speaker 1: coming up prior to the Jaguars, left tackle Tony Boselli
Speaker 1: has chosen to grace us with his presence tonight in
Speaker 1: studio or review. Week eighteen a Jaguars w eleven the
Speaker 1: final score. That's only the fourth time in league history
Speaker 1: that final score has happened. By the way social media question,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of those. We'll go around the league.
Speaker 1: In Week eight teena playoff pree of you all that
Speaker 1: coming up. The Jags with a stunning went over the
Speaker 1: Colts that rocked the final week in the a f
Speaker 1: C playoff race. The Jags offense rolled early, had a
Speaker 1: long touchdown drive and opening drive touchdown for the first
Speaker 1: time since Week two for this Jags team and they
Speaker 1: were off and rolling after that. Defense had a couple
Speaker 1: of second half takeaways, the best all around game the
Speaker 1: Jags have played all season. After the game, Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: on moving forward, I think I think everybody was kind
Speaker 1: of saying that in themselves, not not where was this,
Speaker 1: but just, um, it's always, I guess, mixed emotions. I
Speaker 1: would say always Today is mixed emotions of we finished
Speaker 1: the way we want to finish and you can't ever
Speaker 1: go back. And that's something I've learned, is you gotta
Speaker 1: do everything you can in the moment because you can't
Speaker 1: go back and change it when it's done. So um,
Speaker 1: you don't have regrets, but you do have that feeling
Speaker 1: of just, man, we could have been doing this all season.
Speaker 1: It's it's disappointing, um to look back and think that,
Speaker 1: especially some of the close games we lost and then
Speaker 1: just games where we didn't play well, but just to
Speaker 1: think that, you know, that's who we are, that's what
Speaker 1: we can do. But you're not that unless you do
Speaker 1: it weekend in a week out. So um, But honestly,
Speaker 1: more more so than that, just the confidence that this builds,
Speaker 1: you know, going forward, like that's a good that's a
Speaker 1: good football team that we just we just beat and
Speaker 1: really dominated the game, and just really proud of of
Speaker 1: our guys. That's the quarterback after the game yesterday, Pete
Speaker 1: Frisco and Tony Boselli joining us now, good afternoon and Tony,
Speaker 1: good afternoon. I I liked his comments there because it
Speaker 1: was it was honest that you know, it felt good
Speaker 1: because if you know, they have a good taste in
Speaker 1: their mouth going forward. And I know there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a bunch of changes. We'll get into that in a
Speaker 1: little bit, but let's just talk about Trevor in that comment,
Speaker 1: because he is a big part of what is going
Speaker 1: to move forward, and so there's that good taste of
Speaker 1: saying like, Okay, we can do this, and I think
Speaker 1: it's even I can do this. Not that he ever
Speaker 1: lacks the confidence or had. He's handled himself, you know,
Speaker 1: beautifully this year, Um through a really tough season and
Speaker 1: really some tough moments and chaos and and just dysfunction
Speaker 1: if you really want to just call it what it is, Um.
Speaker 1: But then he was also honest enough to say, but
Speaker 1: that's not who we are, because it's only who we
Speaker 1: are if we do it week in and week out.
Speaker 1: And that's the truth because that you know, don't get
Speaker 1: fooled to think that's who this team is. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: the potential of what they can be, or what we
Speaker 1: want them to be, or what they should have been,
Speaker 1: but it's not who they are. Who they are is
Speaker 1: a thirteen and four, three and fourteen team. UM. But
Speaker 1: yesterday it was fun and it was good, and it
Speaker 1: was dominating, and they did dominate a good football team, UM.
Speaker 1: And they played it perfectly. They took away what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and they forced a quarterback who struggles
Speaker 1: to win and he couldn't. And I thought it was outstanding.
Speaker 1: It was fun to watch, And the entire NFL and
Speaker 1: all the fans in this whole world should be thanking
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars because what they did yesterday set up
Speaker 1: for the as much drama as this ever happened in
Speaker 1: the last week of the season in the NFL regular season,
Speaker 1: for that Sunday night game last night between the Chargers
Speaker 1: and the Raiders, And because if the Jaguars don't win,
Speaker 1: it's a different feeling now, that game would have still
Speaker 1: meant something. Who goes to playoffs and who doesn't, but
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh would. It would have met all the trauma. The tie.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was awesome last night. And that doesn't
Speaker 1: happen if that football team, the Jacksville Jaguars, doesn't play
Speaker 1: the best game of the season. Pete, good afternoon to you. Um,
Speaker 1: that's something to hang their hat on. They helped the
Speaker 1: league yesterday, they did. We helped the league, Pete. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars helped the league. They helped themselves. They actually looked
Speaker 1: like a football team on some day. I mean, they
Speaker 1: hadn't looked like that in a long time. And and
Speaker 1: the quarterback looked like the real deal. I mean that
Speaker 1: that was the best thing about it. The numbers weren't gaudy,
Speaker 1: and they still don't, you know, get the gaudy numbers.
Speaker 1: He could have had good numbers if tread ball catches
Speaker 1: the ball down the left sideline, which he should have caught. Um,
Speaker 1: but he looked like an NFL quarterback that throw he made,
Speaker 1: rolling right over the top of the defensive back. And
Speaker 1: now Marvin Jones was that Marvin Jones I made a
Speaker 1: great catch and about in the end zone. But it's
Speaker 1: a great throw. I mean, there's only so many human
Speaker 1: beings that can do this, and he did it, and
Speaker 1: that just if anything comes out of the game, forget
Speaker 1: about the winning because that doesn't carry over. But what
Speaker 1: does carry over is the fact that there were people
Speaker 1: making comments that he might be a bust, that there's
Speaker 1: concerned about him, that he doesn't go through his progressions
Speaker 1: fast enough and whatever. Yesterday he did all of that.
Speaker 1: And there's a throw in the middle of the field
Speaker 1: and I gotta remember who was because I watched the
Speaker 1: take today where he is looking to his left as
Speaker 1: he opens and he kind of stays left a little
Speaker 1: bit and throws a shot into the middle of the
Speaker 1: field for about twenty yards because he held the safety.
Speaker 1: That's big black quarterback in That's what he has to
Speaker 1: do and that's what he got to yesterday, and and
Speaker 1: it was just that's taking everything else away. Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: It was good for the league and made drama on
Speaker 1: Sunday night, and it was good to win one that might.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't carry over. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: But the young players showed up on Sunday, a lot
Speaker 1: of them and he first and foremost, Trevor Lawrence did
Speaker 1: So that's the good, good thing to take from that game.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine what the Colts plane ride home was
Speaker 1: like yesterday? Pete, Well, that's one of the major choke
Speaker 1: jobs we've seen in a long time. And I watched
Speaker 1: the tape today, Tony. I don't know if you watch
Speaker 1: the tape, but there were guys that didn't look like
Speaker 1: they were playing that hard. Mean, there's a play where
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard is blitzing and it looks like the ball
Speaker 1: is gonna get out before he gets there. But he
Speaker 1: meets the running back in the hole and usually he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys that might try and run him over.
Speaker 1: He kind of pulled up. And where was the Forest
Speaker 1: Butner for most of that game? I mean, he did
Speaker 1: get a pressure, a couple of pressures later on. But
Speaker 1: what were they doing that's supposed to be that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be a good defense. They were terrible. Think they did?
Speaker 1: They look flat? Do you think the pressure got to
Speaker 1: I think they're tight? I think you know. And if
Speaker 1: you watched the week before the Las Vegas Raiders game,
Speaker 1: it was similar. Uh, the Forrest Buckner didn't show up
Speaker 1: until late. He was a non factor. Um, the Raiders
Speaker 1: really controlled that game. Um, it was closer because the
Speaker 1: Colts didn't make it running lead in the second half,
Speaker 1: but then the Raiders ultimately held on and won it um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think they were tight Pete. I think
Speaker 1: that opening the Jags go down and score and then
Speaker 1: they get to stop and fourth down. And I've been
Speaker 1: a part of situations, you know, when you're expected to
Speaker 1: win and you're much better than the other team, and
Speaker 1: like it's not going your way and you you're playing
Speaker 1: for everything. They're playing nothing to lose and you have
Speaker 1: everything to lose. Like that, the pucker factor starts happening
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and you start looking around and you
Speaker 1: start pressing and you just don't you're not yourself. And
Speaker 1: that was I mean, I think that's what Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is personally. I think he's an erratic quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: he makes poor decisions. I think he's you know, he
Speaker 1: tries to do too much. I don't think he's great
Speaker 1: in the pocket. So, you know, I don't think that
Speaker 1: surprised me as much because I think if you can
Speaker 1: stop Jonathan Taylor and forced them to be one dimensional,
Speaker 1: they don't have great receivers, and I don't think Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz is a great quarterback. But defensively, I agree with you, Pete.
Speaker 1: It was shocking that because I have high regard for
Speaker 1: that defense, and that's a that's a Colts team who
Speaker 1: had seven Pro Bowlers, the most of the NFL, and
Speaker 1: they didn't show up yesterday. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: just say that's why they lost. I thought the Jaguars
Speaker 1: played their best game. They were crisp, they were sharp, um,
Speaker 1: offensive line protected game Trevor time, the defense was flying around.
Speaker 1: If you would have watched the game and didn't know
Speaker 1: who was going for the playoffs and who was playing
Speaker 1: for the number one overall pick, you'd have thought to
Speaker 1: put the Jaguars have everything to play for the way
Speaker 1: they are flying around and hitting and making plays, and
Speaker 1: that the culture just playing out the season. They get
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. So um. I mean, we
Speaker 1: could talk about this peed, but I mean where we
Speaker 1: can do it later. The Colts have major issues. They
Speaker 1: don't They don't scare anybody down the field. The major
Speaker 1: they have major issues. This organization. Have a really good defense,
Speaker 1: have a good offense line, they have good back. Pittman's
Speaker 1: a nice receiver. They have no speed other than that
Speaker 1: at the receiver position. I liked their tight ends. Doyle's
Speaker 1: a good tight and Alley Cocks good tight and they're
Speaker 1: good players, but they don't a quarterback. They don't have
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. I'm sorry, Carson Wentz. Isn't that guy? No,
Speaker 1: And but it's funny how in a span of two
Speaker 1: weeks they've gone from the team nobody wants to play
Speaker 1: the team that's sitting at home launching two weeks. Remember,
Speaker 1: they beat New England at home one of the road
Speaker 1: and beat Arizona two primetime games, and everybody's talking about,
Speaker 1: oh the culture here here come to Coats. Watch out.
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna want to play him. And if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: there were certain people on this show that we were
Speaker 1: saying they were gonna run down the Tennessee Titans at
Speaker 1: one point. Remember I thought that, not as much because
Speaker 1: I thought they were a good football team, better than
Speaker 1: what they finished the season at and a lot of
Speaker 1: people did. I didn't think the Titans, And this is
Speaker 1: why I think Mike Rabel should be Coach of the Year.
Speaker 1: Hundred and one different players played for this year. They
Speaker 1: had most injuries, most of anybody ever in a non
Speaker 1: strike season ever, and they had their best player out
Speaker 1: for the second half. That was out for the second
Speaker 1: half of the season. I mean, that was the greatest coach.
Speaker 1: He's the coach of the year what he did to
Speaker 1: get the number one seed. And I didn't think they'd
Speaker 1: be able to do that peat when Derrick Henry got hurt,
Speaker 1: and I thought that the cultural closed ground because I
Speaker 1: did think they're a really well rounded team with that
Speaker 1: running an attack in that defense, they faltered down the path,
Speaker 1: down the stretch, they folded their tent. The Raiders went
Speaker 1: in there and beat him at home, and the Jaguars
Speaker 1: beat him on the road. Here's the other thing about
Speaker 1: their colts. They don't rush the pass with that well, no,
Speaker 1: but the worst Buck is a good player. He's a
Speaker 1: really good player, but he's not a great US. No,
Speaker 1: they're not a great pass rushing He saw that in
Speaker 1: the second half against the England. Mac Jones stood there
Speaker 1: and did what he wanted to and the Raiders did
Speaker 1: what they wanted. They don't rush the pass are well enough,
Speaker 1: so think about their flaws quarterback position, pass rush, and
Speaker 1: they don't have any speed outside. That's a problem, all
Speaker 1: of it. So now moving ahead. The Jaguars coaching search
Speaker 1: will take full headline status for the Jags moving ahead. Here.
Speaker 1: I asked a question. It didn't look like on TV
Speaker 1: that there were many clowns in the stands. Were there?
Speaker 1: Many didn't look like they were were there? Twenty I was.
Speaker 1: I was not in the stands. I was in the studio, Tony,
Speaker 1: you were out there. It was not overwhelming, Pete. So
Speaker 1: the clown movement didn't go far. I guess it's a
Speaker 1: vocal minority. I God bless Mike the Rocket had a
Speaker 1: great tweet because he said the clown still there, the
Speaker 1: costumes off door in the national hand respectful. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I just look, you know how I feel. I've
Speaker 1: said it time and again. Ball he needs to go
Speaker 1: clean it out, get him out. I mean, you see
Speaker 1: what the Bears did today. They just blew them all out,
Speaker 1: Ryan Pace. And we see what the Vikings did today,
Speaker 1: blew them all out, get them all out, scoop them up,
Speaker 1: Ago Miamie, Miami, didn't they just they just got rid
Speaker 1: of flores. Chris Greer keeps he survives there about five
Speaker 1: different coaches. I mean, I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 1: understand it. Uh, and they kept showing him in the
Speaker 1: press box on TV. We had the sound down, but
Speaker 1: I just don't understand clean it all out. And again
Speaker 1: I think they're still using him to for the process
Speaker 1: because I don't think you're gonna get the right guy.
Speaker 1: He makes that decision. Well do we I mean, do
Speaker 1: we want to talk about that now? We want to
Speaker 1: come back and talk about what's coming forward and the changes.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get our let's pay some bills, as they say,
Speaker 1: we'll come back into the moment. We got a tease.
Speaker 1: Tony did a tease. He's a prom pro, he's a
Speaker 1: producer too. I like that. I'm just trying to keep
Speaker 1: us honestly. We're back with plenty ahead of course, second hour,
Speaker 1: your social media questions. We'll go around the in NFL
Speaker 1: on an exciting week eighteen. We're recapping at Jaguars win
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and look ahead to the offseason.
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. It was a great play. I'm
Speaker 1: bad he asked about it. You know, it was a
Speaker 1: great play and a play that we really want um
Speaker 1: and know that ever has hipbility to make. You know,
Speaker 1: those are plays that I've seen Russell Um you know,
Speaker 1: in my recent recent past, and as well as Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford's seen them make those plays right where things aren't
Speaker 1: exactly perfect. And so to see Trevor make that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's one of those things that I think showed progress
Speaker 1: of where he's at um. And it was not an
Speaker 1: easy play. First. He had to you know, had had
Speaker 1: to secure the ball. We had a free guy coming
Speaker 1: off the edge well and navigated that and then put
Speaker 1: the ball where really it wasn't in harm's way right,
Speaker 1: said that he gave Marvin an opportunity to catch it
Speaker 1: and no one else and Marvin made the play, so
Speaker 1: it was it was a big time play for him.
Speaker 1: Darryl Bevel, interim head coach for the Jags after the game, Yes,
Speaker 1: actually that was today recapping the game yesterday and welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick Tony was silly
Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe and his name, he actually said today he
Speaker 1: had been approached and he will have a conversation about
Speaker 1: the role moving ahead, so he should get an opportunity,
Speaker 1: didn't you know? He came in his intern head coach.
Speaker 1: It was a tough car. He was dealt a tough
Speaker 1: uh hands of hand of cards, and he played the
Speaker 1: best he could. And you know, the one thing you
Speaker 1: can say, the guys played hard for him. And so
Speaker 1: I think you should deserve an opportunity to interview or
Speaker 1: have a discussion with Sean conn about it. Hey, all
Speaker 1: the guys that went to the game and clown suits,
Speaker 1: did they take the van back yet? Are you saying
Speaker 1: it was one clown cards game? Wow? Yeah? One fan
Speaker 1: it Wow, it was a little bit, I think to
Speaker 1: your point, Pete, and listen, I love our fans and
Speaker 1: I've said there's people in the building. I'd rather have
Speaker 1: them passionate like that and angry and when it's good, excited,
Speaker 1: just don't be apathetic. That's what I don't want. And
Speaker 1: so I'm joking about it because you know, there was
Speaker 1: it was the biggest story in town going into it,
Speaker 1: and it was not quite um the turn out maybe
Speaker 1: that everyone thought it was gonna be and um. And
Speaker 1: so it's fun to have to though, don't It isn't
Speaker 1: hard to find clown stuff. It's a big commitment, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that much. It's a commitment to show the
Speaker 1: football game in the clowns. It is. Look, I'm not
Speaker 1: mocking the passion and the fans. They got mad at
Speaker 1: me last week when I said what I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not mocking it. That's good. But seriously, so Pete, we
Speaker 1: we left. I mean, I'm with him. I'm with him.
Speaker 1: I think they need a change. I've said it any time.
Speaker 1: You've been clear you think that Trent Ball should be gone.
Speaker 1: And so that goes in just where we're going. You
Speaker 1: know what's next? Where does this organization? I mean they've
Speaker 1: interviewing number of guys and it's after season, but that's
Speaker 1: all that matters now when you're three and fourteen and
Speaker 1: you fired your coach and there's um, definitely a lot
Speaker 1: of opinions out there about the general manager and what
Speaker 1: they should be done with him. And and to be clear,
Speaker 1: Shot has not come out and said anything Trent. Trent
Speaker 1: is under contract and so if you're under contract, you
Speaker 1: expect to come to work just like the coaches are
Speaker 1: on the contract. Came to work today. Um, And so
Speaker 1: it's not like Sean said, yes, keep it up, No,
Speaker 1: I'm firing him. He just hasn't said anything, which is
Speaker 1: his right as the owner and and Pete, I think
Speaker 1: as I look at it, you know what is the
Speaker 1: right decision and I and I've said this on this
Speaker 1: show and I've said it on the Breakfast Basel in
Speaker 1: the morning on Mondays is in my opinion, and being
Speaker 1: around this place and knowing people in the building and
Speaker 1: being a part of this organization for the better part
Speaker 1: of twenty seven years now, I mean I came here
Speaker 1: in I mean, I'm getting we know, we know. Remember
Speaker 1: I'm getting old, and I've been here a long time
Speaker 1: and I've been around the game of football a long time.
Speaker 1: And this the organization is, in my in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is like two different organizations. If you look at it
Speaker 1: and you look at the business side of the Jacksville Jaguars,
Speaker 1: it is world class. I would argue that it is
Speaker 1: as good as any organization and professional sports. They are
Speaker 1: first class and they do things at a exceptional level.
Speaker 1: And then you add on the fact that it's a
Speaker 1: small market team and what they do under the leadership
Speaker 1: of of um Mark Lamping and all the leaders that
Speaker 1: he has over there, they do an outstanding job. It's
Speaker 1: world class and you've seen what they've been able to do,
Speaker 1: and Sean's been able to do as the owner, to
Speaker 1: stabilize this franchise. And you know, I no longer or
Speaker 1: anyone else no longer has to go out there and
Speaker 1: defend this team is not moving and going to l
Speaker 1: A or going to wherever St. Louis, whatever other city
Speaker 1: they used to say, that's not a story anymore, and
Speaker 1: that's we has a Shot con. It's because what they've
Speaker 1: done on the business side and how they've stabilized this organization.
Speaker 1: Outstanding job. They've invested in the infrastructure, they've invested in
Speaker 1: the city. Right now, by the metrics that only matters
Speaker 1: is wins and losses. It is a very poor organization
Speaker 1: when it comes to football, when it comes to UM
Speaker 1: execution on the field, when it comes to competing UM.
Speaker 1: It's a team that has double digital losses nine out
Speaker 1: of tense seasons since Shot has been owner. It's not good.
Speaker 1: It's poor. Fans are mad, people in this building are mad.
Speaker 1: Everyone's mad. Hec the media is even mad. When does
Speaker 1: the media get passionate about anything because it's bad and
Speaker 1: it's it has to change because because it's the reason
Speaker 1: this organization exists is to play football. It's a professional
Speaker 1: football team. It's in the NFL. It's to compete, it's
Speaker 1: to win football games, and they don't do a good
Speaker 1: job of that today. And so and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with the culture, the alignment, everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, being on the same page, the structure. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can go down the list, and the question that
Speaker 1: I think you have to ask is do you think
Speaker 1: that the people in the building can that they currently
Speaker 1: have can fix that. It's not just about picking. It's
Speaker 1: not just about picking draft picks and all that stuff
Speaker 1: and transactions. My goodness, we have the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: Last year, we got a generational quarterback that we all
Speaker 1: think it is the franchise quarterback, and we went through
Speaker 1: one of the worst seasons and buy several some metrics,
Speaker 1: the worst team ever. It was not any better than
Speaker 1: last year when we were one in fifteen. They were
Speaker 1: the lowest scoring team through sixteen games in franchise history.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's bad, and so obviously just getting more
Speaker 1: high pixes and can fix it. It's bigger than that.
Speaker 1: So the question is do you have the people to
Speaker 1: fix that? People? Huh, everything, the feeling in the building,
Speaker 1: the culture. That's what I said, the culture everything, and
Speaker 1: that's where you have to take a long, hard look
Speaker 1: at it. And right now it shot because the GM
Speaker 1: and the coach report. I mean, he's over football, and
Speaker 1: I think and my guy like, if you have to
Speaker 1: make a decision, is do I have the right people
Speaker 1: to fix it? Because you have to fix that. I
Speaker 1: would argue you have to fix that before you have
Speaker 1: to worry about who you're gonna draft or anything else.
Speaker 1: And and you need to fix that and have an
Speaker 1: idea of what you want that to be as you
Speaker 1: go in to hire this new head coach. Is that
Speaker 1: part of these early conversations though, with some of these candidates,
Speaker 1: just to get their idea or thought or well, it depends.
Speaker 1: Are you going to have a structure where it's run
Speaker 1: by the head coach and he is overall everything. Is
Speaker 1: there gonna be a two headed monster? The GM and
Speaker 1: the head coach are equal footing and they both report
Speaker 1: to the owner. Is it gonna be a actually like
Speaker 1: they had when here's that guy, where's that guy? They
Speaker 1: haven't they haven't mentioned that where's that guy? They haven't
Speaker 1: living in there not talking about that saying okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: here's the thing with Trent. Okay, if Trent's there, is
Speaker 1: he hiring a guy that can work with him for
Speaker 1: his benefit? In other words, would he push shod away
Speaker 1: from somebody he doesn't necessarily think he can work with.
Speaker 1: So he's not necessarily hiring the right candidate. He's hiring
Speaker 1: and pushing for the Trent candidate. And that's not a
Speaker 1: good thing. That shouldn't happen. And that's why they need
Speaker 1: to get him out of there, because it's not he
Speaker 1: He shouldn't. They shouldn't be basing their higher on what
Speaker 1: Trent Bulky wants or needs. They should be based in
Speaker 1: their hire on the best football coach, the best guy
Speaker 1: to lead that team. And if that guy says I
Speaker 1: don't want to work with him, then get him out.
Speaker 1: If that guy says, I can make him a scout,
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be influencing my decisions, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get another general I helped get another general manager in here.
Speaker 1: Then you make up a scout. There are ways around it.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is Trent Balky should not be making
Speaker 1: the decision to hire the new coach, nor should he
Speaker 1: be influencing that decision to hire a new coach, because
Speaker 1: if I'm Trent Balky, human nature tells me I'm looking
Speaker 1: out for nobody. He's done in a lot in his career.
Speaker 1: You look out for number one. And if you're looking
Speaker 1: out for and and look by the way, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna fault him on that, because that's the credo of
Speaker 1: mine for a long time. But if you're looking out
Speaker 1: for number one, you're gonna hire somebody that you can
Speaker 1: work with rather than somebody that might be best for
Speaker 1: the organization. And that's where the problem is. Well, that's
Speaker 1: why I wouldn't hire you either, because I don't think
Speaker 1: you need someone looking at for you know, there's no
Speaker 1: there is an eye and ten. I think all the difference, Tony,
Speaker 1: here's the difference. If I was the generman I'm joking,
Speaker 1: were general manager and I was the coach, we'd find
Speaker 1: a way to make it work, because we're smart enough
Speaker 1: to realize if you make it work, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: great for both. I agree with you, Pete, I'm joking
Speaker 1: about that somebody that you brought up a good point,
Speaker 1: though ego has brought down many an NFL team. Well
Speaker 1: we saw, I mean it didn't work in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I mean, and listen, I have nothing against Trent Malky.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to look at history. You
Speaker 1: have to look at where you are, and you have
Speaker 1: to look at what this team and organization just went
Speaker 1: through and whether it's right or wrong. Trenton Urban were together. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you hear these stories San Francisco Harbor and
Speaker 1: Trent bad Harbor and Tom Seula bad hardball. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean Trenton, Tom Seula bad, Trent and chi Kelly Moron,
Speaker 1: Jip Kelly, Trent Moron went bad and Tread and Urban
Speaker 1: were tight and until the end where it was, they weren't.
Speaker 1: And so you see a common theme in there. Well,
Speaker 1: and I think I want to take a step back
Speaker 1: to Pete and because you talk about getting there right
Speaker 1: the right head coach, but I think you before you,
Speaker 1: even as you're going down that path and find the
Speaker 1: right coach, I think you have to look at the
Speaker 1: structure of the organization. I think that's why I'm saying
Speaker 1: you can't just have dread there. I'm not disagree with you,
Speaker 1: and and and I mean actually because I have an
Speaker 1: opinion on this, Pete and so much you hear about it.
Speaker 1: It's not just about the Jaguars. This point is, well,
Speaker 1: all these jobs are opening up, but now there's competition,
Speaker 1: you better get be first. I just don't know how
Speaker 1: much being first matters in this. It's I'd rather get
Speaker 1: it right. And now, obviously if your first, you have
Speaker 1: your whole pick. But my fears you start to be first,
Speaker 1: you start rushing things and you're like, I gotta make
Speaker 1: a quick decision because I don't want to miss out
Speaker 1: because all these other Because here's the reality, there's only
Speaker 1: thirty two of these jobs, and these coaches will do
Speaker 1: anything and say anything to get one of these jobs
Speaker 1: because they're they're they're a gold mine and then strives
Speaker 1: to be So I'm not I'm not faulting them, by
Speaker 1: the way, I'm not saying these coaches are bad people.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is like human like, this is what
Speaker 1: they're striving for and these are hard to come by.
Speaker 1: And so I think you have to take a whole
Speaker 1: step back and look at it from a macro sense
Speaker 1: of like the big picture and like structure and like
Speaker 1: who we want to be and how do we want
Speaker 1: to do this and what is best um for our organization?
Speaker 1: Gives us the best chance to win. And in this case,
Speaker 1: because you have a young franchise quarterback who I think
Speaker 1: is the future, you better be thinking about him as
Speaker 1: you're structuring this organization and who you have involved in it.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. You don't necessarily have to
Speaker 1: go out and find the hot coordinator from a good
Speaker 1: defense or a good team. You need a leader of
Speaker 1: men who can delegate, and maybe not even a play callers.
Speaker 1: Some of the best coaches in the league haven't been
Speaker 1: play callers. It's Mike Thomas doesn't do anything on the
Speaker 1: sidelines plays. John Harbaugh is pretty good. He doesn't do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and so that's the kind of guy you need
Speaker 1: to find. You need to find a guy like that.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you on the structure. If you
Speaker 1: go for an E D P up top, then the
Speaker 1: general manager, then the coach all working together. And I
Speaker 1: don't see that. We haven't heard Have you heard anything
Speaker 1: any talking to that and I have not. I have
Speaker 1: not heard anything. But that doesn't mean I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not like I mean, it's not like you there's a
Speaker 1: statement from the owners, like you know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: I agree, but he has to think jaguars like, for example,
Speaker 1: the Bears are leaning on Bill Polly and to help
Speaker 1: him in the church. Ye, and I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, and there's only one person who does.
Speaker 1: By the way, it is Aim is shot con. He
Speaker 1: happens to be the owner of this team. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's talking to certain people and getting input, but
Speaker 1: ultimately this isn't be his call. And this is where
Speaker 1: I go back to Trent and we can move on
Speaker 1: after this. But you know, right now, Trent Balky is
Speaker 1: the GM, he's under contract, he is working, and he
Speaker 1: might be the GM next year and he might not be.
Speaker 1: We won't know. And maybe in Shan might just say,
Speaker 1: why am I making a statement. He's the GM, he's
Speaker 1: under contract, We're moving forward. Maybe he'll come out and
Speaker 1: say something, maybe he'll make a change. We don't know.
Speaker 1: I just thinking, look at the big picture. Something has
Speaker 1: to drastically change because whatever we've been doing for the
Speaker 1: last ten years isn't working. It's broken, and that's just
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not being I love this place. There's
Speaker 1: I would argue, there's very few people who love it
Speaker 1: as much as I do. So I'm not being critical
Speaker 1: Shot or anybody. It's just reality. And that's what the
Speaker 1: numbers tell you. And it's it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and and it is what it is, and what it
Speaker 1: is needs to change. So it's something else next year
Speaker 1: in the years to come. What it is is not
Speaker 1: good right now. Um, we'll come back plenty ahead on
Speaker 1: this topic. Of course, we'll touch on some of the
Speaker 1: highlights again from yesterday's win over the Colts. Second hour
Speaker 1: coming up your social media questions. We're gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1: We always do think we are keeping it real, are
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after the regular season.
Speaker 1: This is the final show season, the final time j P, Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Tony Basselli, and Pete Prisco will be together in this season. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll, you know, do a one off year or
Speaker 1: there in the off season, but I don't know. Pete's
Speaker 1: agent is tough, Pete is top, but is going to
Speaker 1: go up this year? Yeah, A lot of things before
Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that path right now, Pete, please, uh,
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about we're talking about last segment,
Speaker 1: all this stuff, right, So let's Trent Balky is the GM.
Speaker 1: He's the GM, and let's say it moves forward like that.
Speaker 1: What is the best candidate of the names that are
Speaker 1: out there right now that would make a good fit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that's a good conversation JP, because I
Speaker 1: think we should assume for right now that train is
Speaker 1: the gym, because he is, he's under contract, and UM,
Speaker 1: transmit around football a long time. He knows personnel, He's
Speaker 1: been scouted a lot of different places, He's had success. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean if you look at this draft this year,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people have killed him for
Speaker 1: it at times. But I mean I think yesterday, set
Speaker 1: aside Trevor Lawrence, UM, you know, obviously we don't know
Speaker 1: about et N. He talked today, Yeah, he talked. But
Speaker 1: whether you like picking a draft running back in the
Speaker 1: first round or not, Pete and I are in agreement here.
Speaker 1: We probably would not. But you know that's not fair
Speaker 1: to et because he might be a great place Tyson
Speaker 1: Campbell is. I mean, all it looks like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a really good player, and he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good corner, and that Trent picked him. And you look
Speaker 1: at Walker Little, um shaky early, but he was also
Speaker 1: out of year. Um it was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: first rounder before he got hurt and sat out for
Speaker 1: covid um. I think you look at it. The last
Speaker 1: two weeks he progressed and you know, like, all right,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that we feel like has a
Speaker 1: chance to be a starting caliber and a good football
Speaker 1: player on this team. He played well and he played good.
Speaker 1: About the farm on him though, yet he was really
Speaker 1: good yesterday. Yeah. Am I gonna bet the farm on
Speaker 1: him a two weeks? No? But I think he's like
Speaker 1: but he can be in your plans. Yeah, He's an
Speaker 1: NFL quality left Yeah yeah. And and I think it
Speaker 1: does make you have aversation what you do with Cam Robinson.
Speaker 1: I think right now where I sit, I probably still
Speaker 1: be leaning towards bringing him back because you have enough
Speaker 1: holes in that offensive line. Maybe one of them can
Speaker 1: move to guard. I mean, Walker Little is a big,
Speaker 1: powerful dude. You watch him run block. I mean he's powerful,
Speaker 1: and so maybe maybe you can move him down to guard.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe I don't know. He
Speaker 1: looked natural left tack. I know I'm not saying you're
Speaker 1: gonna move him to guard, but you know, you still
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna do it at the right tackle.
Speaker 1: With Joan Taylor, I mean he's yesterday he looked better too.
Speaker 1: He's in his fourth year. You know, maybe he brings
Speaker 1: him back. You know, he said plainly today, by the way,
Speaker 1: he's not a guard. He's no, I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has a guard. If you look
Speaker 1: at him, if his how his body type and everything else. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, so it makes you gives you some optionality.
Speaker 1: Now you have to think about Cam Robinson when you
Speaker 1: do there. Um, but that so that was his draft pick. Cisco.
Speaker 1: I think the last two weeks. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it took him so long to get him on the field,
Speaker 1: but you know, did some stings, ball hawking running around.
Speaker 1: You know, that look good. So, I mean it's hard
Speaker 1: to say about the uh the young defensive end outside
Speaker 1: pass rusher. I can't think of his name right now.
Speaker 1: Jordan or Smith didn't play, had a couple of plays. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: all is someone I have not been overly. I think
Speaker 1: he gets pushed around too much. Uh. Questions about that one.
Speaker 1: But that's a mid round draft pick. So my point
Speaker 1: is saying, let's assume Pete the Trent staying here. If
Speaker 1: you're Trent Balky and Shot Khan and we're assuming that
Speaker 1: the two of them are doing the interviews together, what
Speaker 1: kind of head coach are you looking for? Peeper scouts
Speaker 1: the same both report the Shot a guy who's been
Speaker 1: a head coach before. Okay, of those guys, give me
Speaker 1: your list. Caldwell and Peterson probably would lead that group. Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Todd Bowls? I think Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles could be good. That'd be a good choice too.
Speaker 1: I like Todd Bowls. I had a chance with the Jet.
Speaker 1: I don't think he had a chance with the Jets,
Speaker 1: So another opportunity for him would be good. And if
Speaker 1: you've been around Todd and you have uh, Todd gets it.
Speaker 1: He's not going to play the games and the players
Speaker 1: will respect him, but respect him. He's very very smart,
Speaker 1: very very organized. Um, what would be your biggest question
Speaker 1: mark around Todd Bowls? And what would you want to
Speaker 1: ask him if you were interviewing him? Who's what kind
Speaker 1: of often you're gonna run. Who's your coordinator? I think
Speaker 1: that's the that's the one thing that could either put
Speaker 1: him higher on the list or drop him down the list.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you were Todd Bowls and you
Speaker 1: to get Bill O'Brien as your offensive coordinator, that would
Speaker 1: be a good parent. Yeah. I think Bill O'Brian's a
Speaker 1: good offensive coach. I really do. And I'm not so
Speaker 1: sure he's not a bad football coach. I just don't
Speaker 1: think he can have control because we saw what he
Speaker 1: did with control and when it went awry. Here's my
Speaker 1: problem with Bill O'Brien and Trent Balky. They wouldn't they
Speaker 1: would clash. That's there. You're gonna get back to the
Speaker 1: same old, same old. They're gonna clash. I don't think
Speaker 1: that could work. Jim called Well could work with Trent
Speaker 1: Balky because he's that kind of guy. The problem is
Speaker 1: with Trent Balky take advantage of that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because Jim called Well is a really nice guy.
Speaker 1: So when Trent Balky take advantage of that, I don't
Speaker 1: I think you have to. And Doug Peterson is interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got skims on the wall. He wanted
Speaker 1: super ball, and he'd be good for the quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: a former NFL quarterback. He'd be good for the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I think of those guys, that's the coaches that
Speaker 1: have you know, Josh Mthdaniels isn't coming. They haven't even talked,
Speaker 1: they even put his name out there. What about what
Speaker 1: about the um the non head coaches? How would you
Speaker 1: rank the I'll just name you three guys that have
Speaker 1: been coordinated Hackett left, which and more rank? I don't
Speaker 1: I think. Look, I'm big on Byron. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a coach. I think that the whole thing
Speaker 1: of coming back to Jacksonville being the coach might be
Speaker 1: a problem. I mean, Biman had a bad experience in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: The fans didn't like him, he didn't like it. That
Speaker 1: might be a problem. He'll be a head coach. He
Speaker 1: should be a head coach. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is a good fit. Kelly Moore, I'm not sure he's
Speaker 1: ready yet. We're rushing that one a little bit. And
Speaker 1: the other one, who's the third one you asked me
Speaker 1: about a hack for him? Yeah? I think Nate hack
Speaker 1: and I've talked to Rogers about Nate Hackett, and he
Speaker 1: loves him. He loves Aaron Rodgers loves Nate Hackett. Is
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett ready A and B. He had a bad
Speaker 1: experience in Jacksonville. They fired him, they made an escape,
Speaker 1: goat fired. Yeah, so I think in the middle of
Speaker 1: eighteen when that happened, I think we're aligned on you know,
Speaker 1: kind of Todd Bowles called Well, I'd wonder about I'd
Speaker 1: wonder about Codwell staff, Like who would he be Jim
Speaker 1: calledwell being. I mean, I have the utmost respect for him,
Speaker 1: what he's done, who he is as a man, as
Speaker 1: a leader. I think he'd command respect in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be good for the building. I'd worry.
Speaker 1: I'd wonder about who his staff would be, Like, who's
Speaker 1: like because he's been out, he's been out a little bit,
Speaker 1: Pete right, And and here's the other thing. He's also
Speaker 1: sixty six. I mean that's he's not a kid. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not that you can get five years out of him.
Speaker 1: But again, it's not a kid. Here's a guy that's
Speaker 1: nobody's men to day. Leslie Frazier, I'll give you another
Speaker 1: one where he Morris. I think Raheem will be much
Speaker 1: much better than the second time around. And I think
Speaker 1: where he would be the first one to tell you that.
Speaker 1: I don't think Raheem was ready when he got it
Speaker 1: the first He just wasn't mature enough. He's matured. He's
Speaker 1: a good coach. I think he'd be a good higher Yeah.
Speaker 1: And as you look at the and I'll be quick,
Speaker 1: JP don't know we're up against it. If you look
Speaker 1: at the three guys you talked about Pete that we're
Speaker 1: not head coaches. I agree with you him more. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's ready. I do worry about left which
Speaker 1: coming like Pete does coming back here. I really like Byron.
Speaker 1: I think when a Byron's strength would be a standing
Speaker 1: in front of the fifty three guys, I think he
Speaker 1: would command the respect. Um. I've heard good things about him.
Speaker 1: I just think like he's still he's only been a
Speaker 1: coordinator and or one guy, Bruce arians he's never been
Speaker 1: anywhere else. He's only been in that seat a few
Speaker 1: years as the real coordinator. So he's still a young coach.
Speaker 1: I think there's some maturing. And my question would be
Speaker 1: not that whether Bryan would be will be a good
Speaker 1: head coach in this league or not? Is him maturing
Speaker 1: to becoming that person? Best to be done here in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with the history and not just the history of
Speaker 1: his but where we are as a franchise right now.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask, and that the Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 1: I think Nathaniel Hackett did one of the greatest coaching
Speaker 1: jobs as an offensive coordinator ever to get what he'd
Speaker 1: got out of the Jacksonville Jaguars with Blake Portless quarterback.
Speaker 1: I thought it was outstanding, and I thought he got
Speaker 1: absolutely done wrong in eighteen getting fired the way he did.
Speaker 1: My question with Dathaniel Hackett, and this is what you'd
Speaker 1: have to have long conversations. You'd have to really get
Speaker 1: comfortable as a as an owner and as a as
Speaker 1: as an organization. Can you picture Nathaniel Hackett stand in
Speaker 1: front of the entire team and commanding the respect of
Speaker 1: the entire organization of those fifty three guys. Pete brings
Speaker 1: up a great point. If you can do it with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that's saying something right there all by itself.
Speaker 1: So I think Davaniel, I think Nathaniel Hackett's a real,
Speaker 1: real candidate, and they're gonna interview him, and I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see where that goes real quick.
Speaker 1: JP rich Besaccia is the interim coach of the Raiders.
Speaker 1: He's been around this league forever and they love him
Speaker 1: and he says and he can have a hammer man.
Speaker 1: He can be tough on his guy. He'll call him out.
Speaker 1: But he's not a play caller. He's not a good
Speaker 1: He's just an overseer and he's involved. But he didn't
Speaker 1: called the defense, and you don't call the offense. Sometimes
Speaker 1: out there you can. John Harball was one of those guys.
Speaker 1: You can find a guy who could just lead the
Speaker 1: whole thing and not necessarily be an x as an
Speaker 1: those guy from a good offense or a good defense.
Speaker 1: That's what you have to find. And I think there's
Speaker 1: there and they haven't even gone any of that route yet.
Speaker 1: These are all been ex coaches and coordinators so far.
Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment after order finalize the
Speaker 1: top sixteen, at least after the regular season is done.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars land at the top spoiler winn win a
Speaker 1: winner winner and a number one overall pick. Yesterday, pretty
Speaker 1: good day at the office. Second hour coming up just
Speaker 1: a little bit as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented
Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're
Speaker 1: back Jaguars Happy Hour. Monday. After the regular season, j
Speaker 1: P Shadrick Tony was Elly Pete Prisco the final time
Speaker 1: for campaign. Now it's onto the off season and everything
Speaker 1: that brings. Coaching search is under way and soon the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft right around the corner. Yes, the Jaguars have
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick for the second year in
Speaker 1: a row. The top sixteen in fact finalized. Yes today Jaguars.
Speaker 1: The Lions gotta win, so they finished three thirteen and one.
Speaker 1: The Texans will pick third, Jets fourth, Giants fifth with
Speaker 1: their own picks Panthers six, Giants get, the Bears pick
Speaker 1: at seven, Falcons at eight, Broncos at nine, Jets are
Speaker 1: at number ten. There you have it in the top ten.
Speaker 1: So the New York teams picking twice in the top
Speaker 1: ten and the Jaguars right there at the top. Again,
Speaker 1: here we go. Draft talk commences. Pete, who you pick
Speaker 1: a number one? You're the GM You know what. I
Speaker 1: went back and watched more Hutchinson tape. I'm taking Hutchinson
Speaker 1: over there, over the organ kid. Yeah, he's a better
Speaker 1: player here. Here's the thing when I like, somebody said
Speaker 1: to me, they go is Penn State tape wasn't great.
Speaker 1: So I went back and watched it. At three sacks
Speaker 1: in the game, they chipped them and did everybody. The
Speaker 1: running backs got on them in the tight end, chipped
Speaker 1: the one every play. They ran away from him almost
Speaker 1: the entire game, and they got the ball out of
Speaker 1: the quarterback's hands quickly. He's still got three sacks. He's
Speaker 1: a disruptor. He's a place hard, his hands ring. You
Speaker 1: know the guys with the hands, the boases, those guys
Speaker 1: that know how to use their hands, and they look
Speaker 1: like when they got to the NFL, they look like
Speaker 1: pros already. He's one of those guys. He's got the
Speaker 1: great get the hands off me as he's rushed in
Speaker 1: the passer and and he's a big I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get bigger. I don't think he's not a thick
Speaker 1: kid yet. He's watching him against Georgia, whicheverone killed him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got the left tackle was laying on top of him.
Speaker 1: A couple of times. I mean, I mean, the left
Speaker 1: tackle is gonna be in starting tackle on the league,
Speaker 1: by the way, just to tell you. And he wasn't
Speaker 1: He wasn't bad, he wasn't but he just didn't get
Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia has dominated that game overall. Did you
Speaker 1: watch the Michigan State game Michigan Michigan stake. I haven't
Speaker 1: watched that one. Check that one out because he only
Speaker 1: had like three tackles. He did have a sack in
Speaker 1: the game, but they ran a ball a bunch. That
Speaker 1: was the day that the running back for State had
Speaker 1: five touchdown Mike Mike going considered with him. I've watched
Speaker 1: very little, no tape, just like watching him live so
Speaker 1: in highlights, So I'm the wrong person, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even know who I picked right now. I've watched I
Speaker 1: haven't watched one college tape, but watching him on TV,
Speaker 1: he looks really lean, like he looked very strong big,
Speaker 1: but he's but he is strong though. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: He's lean and strong because he can bull rush guys,
Speaker 1: two big guys he can bull rush him. He's strong.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. I'm I'm the same way
Speaker 1: when I watch him on TV. I'm like, Okay, he's lean.
Speaker 1: He needs to put on about twenty pounds, but when
Speaker 1: you watch him, he plays strong. He's a strong kid, Tony.
Speaker 1: Why do you sour on the Gorgon kid, Pete? I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't soured on him. I just this kid plays
Speaker 1: tough and hard every lay and he you know what
Speaker 1: I love when a guy chases down run plays from
Speaker 1: the backside. You know that tells you that he cares.
Speaker 1: I mean he I mean, I'm talking across the way.
Speaker 1: He chases him down. And I don't think the Oregon
Speaker 1: kid does that, Pete, Where do you rank the receiver's
Speaker 1: coming out? M the kid? The kids here to see
Speaker 1: the Knights the best receiver by watching a little bit
Speaker 1: of Ohio State. But I've I've watched the number of
Speaker 1: help Pamma games. The kid could just fly. What does
Speaker 1: he run? What's he gonna run? Like? Four three? I
Speaker 1: don't think he's that. I don't think he's the burner.
Speaker 1: He's game fast. He's game fast because he can catch
Speaker 1: it and all of a sudden he can outrun everybody
Speaker 1: Like whoa yeah, like the kid, the other kid, that's
Speaker 1: the other top receiver, the other Wilson from Ohio State.
Speaker 1: He's not a burner on the on the clock either,
Speaker 1: but they play fast. Yeah, he's the one that that's
Speaker 1: the one I would day because he's the guy. Every
Speaker 1: time he touches the ball you have to hold your breath.
Speaker 1: But you're not. You're not taking him number one overall. No,
Speaker 1: I take I take either Hutchinsond, Thibodeau or Neil. That's
Speaker 1: my pick. If if I'm stuck at one, Neil the left.
Speaker 1: But I think Little's play the last two weeks gives
Speaker 1: me some options now, not being forced to take in
Speaker 1: a Neil. There you have it, Um, So we'll come
Speaker 1: back second hour of Jaguars Happy all right around the corner.
Speaker 1: We'll recap the game again yesterday. We'll keep it real.
Speaker 1: We haven't done that yet, Yes we have. We'll do
Speaker 1: it again for real. Coming up. Your social questions will
Speaker 1: go around the league as well. Jaguars Happy Hour presented
Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have to look back and really think
Speaker 1: about the biggest thing I've learned. I think you're for me, um,
Speaker 1: learning how to really be resilient and tough times and
Speaker 1: to keep being the same person and to try to
Speaker 1: keep that confidence weekend or week out. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a seven team game season, and just because you have
Speaker 1: a bad first game or a bad seventh game, you
Speaker 1: still have so many games left and you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta come ready to play each week and regardless of
Speaker 1: you know, we obviously we didn't win a lot of
Speaker 1: games this year, but there's so many games we could
Speaker 1: have winn and we could have won, and we have
Speaker 1: enough talent, and every team has enough talent, and it's
Speaker 1: really about execution. It's about being ready, everybody on the
Speaker 1: same page. And I think that's the biggest thing I've
Speaker 1: learned is college it's it's it's more about talent. Obviously,
Speaker 1: towards the end of the season, you look at the
Speaker 1: National Championship playoffs, all those talent is kind of equated.
Speaker 1: But here every game is pretty even. You know, any
Speaker 1: any team can win any given Sunday. And knowing that,
Speaker 1: I think that's something valuable that I've learned. Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday and welcome back. It's the second
Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday after the
Speaker 1: regular season. J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Frisco. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars snapped an eight game losing skid yesterday eleven. The
Speaker 1: final score they scored on the opening drive hit a
Speaker 1: bunch of field goals moved the ball certainly in the
Speaker 1: first half. The Jags defense got going in the second
Speaker 1: half with a couple of takeaways, a fumble off Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: an interception off Wins as well. We mentioned Lawrence he
Speaker 1: had one of the best days of his rookie campaign
Speaker 1: on the final day of his rookie season. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: secured the number one overall pick even though they won
Speaker 1: Detroit one over the Packers, So the Jags are picking
Speaker 1: number one overall for the second year in a row.
Speaker 1: Coaching interviews continue. All the reports of more interviews coming
Speaker 1: up this week, and we've arrived at the off season. Tony,
Speaker 1: you look very excited about excited. You're never excited when
Speaker 1: you go, you know, three and fourteen and have the
Speaker 1: season we did. Um much might be much more excited
Speaker 1: about if we were playing in the If we're in
Speaker 1: the playoffs right now, that I'm excited. I gotta go
Speaker 1: do playoff games. I'll be uh doing Dallas San Francisco
Speaker 1: this weekend. That would be fun. Um um it was
Speaker 1: spirodidas right, Yep, I'm not so. I'm not excited about
Speaker 1: like how this season went and that it's the off season.
Speaker 1: That's I'm very interested and where this goes though interesting
Speaker 1: the next head coaches. I'm interested to see what Shaw
Speaker 1: decides to do. I'm interested to see how this organization
Speaker 1: evolves on the football side. Interesting thing. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: do something different or we're gonna do the same old,
Speaker 1: same old. I'm interested, curious. I'm tired of losing. I'm
Speaker 1: tired of of having these conversations every year. It feels
Speaker 1: like outside of one in the last decade plus, because
Speaker 1: for even before Shot became owner, it was similar. It's
Speaker 1: in your point earlier. Everybody wants an answer now like today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not you're not gonna get it. That's not gonna work,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna that's not how it's gonna happen. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be. You gotta be patient. Tony was right, you
Speaker 1: gotta be patient. Get the right guy, not the first guy.
Speaker 1: It's the right guy. Hey, real quick, did you you
Speaker 1: guys watched the game last night for Pete maybe the
Speaker 1: best and you always do this in like the moment,
Speaker 1: but it was one of the best football games I've seen. Outstanding.
Speaker 1: It was outstanding. But the way that kid threw the
Speaker 1: ball around, that's what Trevor Lawrence should look like next
Speaker 1: year when need be to sling it around too fast,
Speaker 1: good receivers in the passing game he asked to he
Speaker 1: should be able to do what Herbert does. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of similarities between it to him. Long, big athletic
Speaker 1: can really rip it. He should be doing what Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert did last night. Now, you don't want to throw
Speaker 1: the ball sixty times a game, but I'm saying in
Speaker 1: situations where you have to zing it around, he should
Speaker 1: be capable of doing what Herbert did last night. That's
Speaker 1: what he has to get to next year. And not
Speaker 1: just on him, it's building around them. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: he has some weapons and rehivers pretty good UM good
Speaker 1: back really good back in UM as long as we
Speaker 1: don't get the head coach who goes for it and
Speaker 1: forth in a long one. Ah. Just pet he promised
Speaker 1: me that. I mean, what that hell was he and
Speaker 1: you know these analytics, Ki, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna sound like an old fart here because
Speaker 1: I am. But they grew up playing mad with their buddies.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys that the fans out there
Speaker 1: in the Twitter cult, so when he goes for it,
Speaker 1: it reminds of them when they were facing their friend
Speaker 1: and mad and football. What are you doing? Momentum matters
Speaker 1: in the NFL? It really does? You know? You played Tony?
Speaker 1: There's a flow with a field to a game. What
Speaker 1: are you doing giving him a point? But you gave
Speaker 1: three points? And it could have been if here's the
Speaker 1: other thing, if the Raiders hadn't screwed up on the
Speaker 1: first play after they got that free free field position
Speaker 1: they ran, they with Mario and what the hell are
Speaker 1: you doing? But you think he was? It was next
Speaker 1: time we see only We'll give him crap about that
Speaker 1: one too. Do you think Brandon Stanley would like those
Speaker 1: three points back that he just gave the Raiders? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd be in the playoffs right now. Unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't. There's there's something to be
Speaker 1: said for being more aggressive maybe than what they used
Speaker 1: to be. I get it, I understand it, and analytics
Speaker 1: helped you understand that, but don't be stupid with it.
Speaker 1: Game flow. And I thought Dean Pas last week you
Speaker 1: saw demps when he said he went viral for some
Speaker 1: of the things he said, and he got crucified for it.
Speaker 1: He was right, by the way, he was right right
Speaker 1: everything that game last night. The whole thing was fascinating.
Speaker 1: The tie on the line, like the time out the Chargers,
Speaker 1: you know, converting six fourth downs, like fourth and twenty one.
Speaker 1: I called one, then he had the third and draw.
Speaker 1: You know, I actually like the time out that Brandon
Speaker 1: Stanley called. Everyone's killing him. They were gonna run the
Speaker 1: same play, by the way, I don't know they were,
Speaker 1: because they had different they had different personnel in the game. No,
Speaker 1: But the my point is, Pete, the Raiders were getting
Speaker 1: up to run the ball, and if they got yardage
Speaker 1: and they got a first down, they would have tried
Speaker 1: to get the field goal. If they didn't, they would
Speaker 1: hope to let the clock run out. And that's why
Speaker 1: they ran the clock below forty seconds, so that they
Speaker 1: had the optionality if they didn't get it, they could
Speaker 1: run it all the way down or force like that
Speaker 1: word today. By the way, optionality, like the option optionality baby,
Speaker 1: Optionality is a good thing to have in life. Beat
Speaker 1: you gotta have options, you mean options? Option at a
Speaker 1: real word. That's a real word. Optionality is the world.
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up, says, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust this on the internet.
Speaker 1: It must be true. Uh, the quality of being available
Speaker 1: to be chosen, but not obligatory. Thank you. Optionality. It's
Speaker 1: a real words on the internet. Though, maybe you should
Speaker 1: go back to journalism school because I just schooled you
Speaker 1: the potential for options, optionality, optionality. Come on, I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever heard that. Well, you should listen more.
Speaker 1: But anyways, back to back to the time out. They
Speaker 1: were going to run the ball and if they didn't
Speaker 1: get anything, you're right. But he called time out because
Speaker 1: he wanted his substitute, his big package in and then
Speaker 1: he didn't. But you know he did, he put no
Speaker 1: he You know what he did, Tony he because I
Speaker 1: went back and watched it. He put an extra defensive
Speaker 1: lineman on the field, but instead of having two linebackers,
Speaker 1: he still had his nickel package on the field, so
Speaker 1: he had a dime safety playing linebacker and that guy
Speaker 1: made a terrible play because he went the wrong way.
Speaker 1: You know who had a terrible play. The reason that
Speaker 1: run was successful. Bosa got blocked by the tight end.
Speaker 1: Han't got him. He came in motion down the line
Speaker 1: blocked him and he cracked in between him. But I
Speaker 1: still wouldn't let him play it out. Play it out,
Speaker 1: give me a break. He called time out, but it
Speaker 1: was almost like they let him regroup in that situation,
Speaker 1: brought the blocking tight end onto the field. They weren't
Speaker 1: gonna Did you think they were ever considering throwing in
Speaker 1: that situation? No, No, I agreed that. My point I
Speaker 1: was going back to the fact that everyone on the
Speaker 1: internet last night was saying that the that the Raiders
Speaker 1: are just gonna take a knee right there on third down,
Speaker 1: they were gonna take a knee. They were gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball again. But they if it was going to
Speaker 1: be a tie, if they but if they run the
Speaker 1: ball and they get ten yards like they did on
Speaker 1: the after the time out, they do the exact same
Speaker 1: thing and kicked the field ball. But they didn't have
Speaker 1: the run grouping in the Raiders. They didn't have the
Speaker 1: tight end that was the blocking tight end on the
Speaker 1: field in that situation, and that's the difference. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not arguing that. My point is everyone on Twitter freaking
Speaker 1: out thinking they were gonna take a knee. There is
Speaker 1: not the case. They were not taking a knee. But
Speaker 1: by the way, Pete's being very nice today about the
Speaker 1: Charger's head coach. Last night on Twitter, it was like, hey, people,
Speaker 1: just like his answers, like what is going on here?
Speaker 1: I called him a moron because it was a more
Speaker 1: on decision. It's a more on decision to go for
Speaker 1: it in your own end was on the eighteen yard line.
Speaker 1: That's a more on decision. I mean. And then what
Speaker 1: do you I mean, how could you possibly think that's
Speaker 1: a good decision. Now, the game got loose, So in
Speaker 1: a loose game like in the third the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: maybe and do that, But at that moment, the game
Speaker 1: wasn't loose at all. They had the momentum. What was
Speaker 1: the score at that point, seventeen? What was it? Fourteen? Ten? Right? No,
Speaker 1: when they were down it was seven. Okay, the game
Speaker 1: is not loose. You gotta play that game. You gotta
Speaker 1: conventionally pump the damn ball. Carlson at the thirty one yard,
Speaker 1: and it was my original point about the quarterback. Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence should be that next year. So the question becomes,
Speaker 1: how do you get him to that? The Chargers, Tony
Speaker 1: made a good point. Echoes a damn good back. The
Speaker 1: left side in the center of their line is good.
Speaker 1: The right side is awful. And they have injuries there,
Speaker 1: but they're awful right now? Do they have a tight
Speaker 1: end that scares you? Cook's okay, No, he's a big
Speaker 1: he's a big he's a big body. Pete. That's a
Speaker 1: matchup issue. And you saw that in Keith third downs
Speaker 1: and fourth downs yesterday. But he's getting but he's getting
Speaker 1: up in the years. And okay. The wide receivers Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen's really good. Mike Williams. Mike Williams is unrestricted free agent.
Speaker 1: Would you pay him? How much you gotta pay him? Oh,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid. You're gonna get him Galladay money.
Speaker 1: Probably what all they get thirteen a year? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: pay him that probably you could come to He doesn't
Speaker 1: run as well as you think he runs. No, but
Speaker 1: he's a dang good receiver. Well you're Jacksonville, you would
Speaker 1: you would, you would pay I would, I would kick
Speaker 1: the tires for sure. Pete. You have to get receivers here,
Speaker 1: I know. Okay, so you pay Mike Williams and draft,
Speaker 1: you get one in the draft and it's a good
Speaker 1: receiver draft by the way. Yeah, I mean because if
Speaker 1: you look at um like like everyone talks about, you
Speaker 1: need that burner. Who's the burners on the Los Angeles Chargers?
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen doesn't run. No, Mike Williams isn't a burner. No,
Speaker 1: they don't have a burner. Guid is a burner, bid
Speaker 1: receiver Jacksonville. He couldn't. He couldn't remember the place that
Speaker 1: that's their burner. H Yeah, Palmer is not a burner.
Speaker 1: They're all but they're all big guys and good route runs. Right. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll come back in a moment. We're gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1: Have we not been doing that? No, okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. We can't believe I got my case this
Speaker 1: week in the mail. You did I got to Yeah
Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't get yours yet? I got two cases.
Speaker 1: Fucking I got left up. Yeah, I must got JPS.
Speaker 1: You must have. He's looking around like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I gotta read I got a red and a white. Wow,
Speaker 1: what a deal. JP's like they left me out. I
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Speaker 1: Here's the question today. Yeah, I'm sure you guys are
Speaker 1: enjoying it. What's the best thing to come out of
Speaker 1: this season for the Jaguars? It's over the first round,
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, quarterbacks, healthy quarterbacks, health that I
Speaker 1: could argue that Urban Meyer's gone. That's the best thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean because it was it was chaotic here,
Speaker 1: but it was dysfunctional. Could you imagine could you imagine
Speaker 1: what what this team went through and the organization went
Speaker 1: through going into another year knowing that that's what you're facing. No,
Speaker 1: you're right, that's the best thing. That's the best thing
Speaker 1: so to come out of this year. You found out
Speaker 1: what he was early. Yeah, you gotta realized it. He could,
Speaker 1: like you know, it was like a term sometimes in
Speaker 1: like in startup world of business, like fail fast, like
Speaker 1: figure out what doesn't work so you can make the
Speaker 1: correction instead of investing a bunch of capital that you
Speaker 1: have limited resources of, I mean limited amount of and
Speaker 1: fail fast like move on to the next thing, figure
Speaker 1: it out, um. And I'm thankful that we figured it
Speaker 1: out quickly who he really was, and that he was
Speaker 1: a little bit of a it's fraud to pick up
Speaker 1: a word to use, because he looked a lot about accountable.
Speaker 1: He talked a lot about of accountability and family and
Speaker 1: and owning it. And I didn't see any of that
Speaker 1: from him. Um, we found out early. And I'm thankful
Speaker 1: that Shod who who took a big swing in the
Speaker 1: last offseason and and made a big statement and made
Speaker 1: statements how he felt like he got it right this
Speaker 1: time and now everything else. And I'm thankful that shot
Speaker 1: Khan is not too proud to not to be able
Speaker 1: to admit a mistake and say, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: not dealing with this anymore. I mean, that's good leadership,
Speaker 1: and I know that you can get on and from
Speaker 1: be getting it wrong, that's fine. Worse than getting it
Speaker 1: wrong is not admitting that it was wrong and hang on.
Speaker 1: And we've seen that in this organization in the past,
Speaker 1: not from Shod but from others. I'll leave nameless of
Speaker 1: hanging on to decisions that end up costing this organization
Speaker 1: in the long run. But here so the fact that
Speaker 1: he made that decision so quickly, Pete, I think is
Speaker 1: really important. And if urban didn't go to Jacksonville last year,
Speaker 1: let's just say he didn't and he decided this year,
Speaker 1: I'm in play. I wanted an NFL team to hire me.
Speaker 1: They'd be fighting for him, the teams if he if
Speaker 1: he had not experienced Jacksonville and he came out of retirement,
Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of teams fighting for him. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he. I don't think Sean would would
Speaker 1: be alone, is your point? No, of course not, because
Speaker 1: he fooled a bunch of people. Eat fooled people. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think he can fool anyone any longer because
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious. You know what his uh
Speaker 1: M O was. Yeah, right, when you recruit the best players,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win a lot of games at college football.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Well, he's a great recruiter, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I don't know how, Seriously, I
Speaker 1: do not know how if he came If I was
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old kid and that guy came into
Speaker 1: my living room, I would smell out the bs from
Speaker 1: from the minute he walked in the door. Beat beat,
Speaker 1: you are so full of it. You would be going
Speaker 1: to Ohio state like that? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: The only way I'd be going to Ohio days they
Speaker 1: paid me more than what Alabama pay Wow, but well
Speaker 1: beating then you'd be one of the few because he's
Speaker 1: he has sold a lot of people over his lifetime. Okay, Tony,
Speaker 1: you were recruited, would you listen to his crap? I
Speaker 1: think as an eighteen year old kid, And actually I
Speaker 1: was seventeen when I was getting recruited. I mean when
Speaker 1: I signed my letter in ten, I was seventeen years old.
Speaker 1: And if urban Meyer came to me and selling me
Speaker 1: like in his smooth talking and family and this and
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do tompionship rings in like
Speaker 1: championship rings, yeah, Pete, I would have fallen for it.
Speaker 1: To USC, I did not. I was not a big recruit.
Speaker 1: I got paid. I could honestly say for Colorado USC
Speaker 1: where I can honestly say, I could honestly say, giving
Speaker 1: you know my word. I did not get any money
Speaker 1: from the University of Southern California or anyone associated with
Speaker 1: the University of Southern California, any booster, coach, anything else
Speaker 1: to go to the us UH to USC. Never got
Speaker 1: anything from them to go to that school. That means
Speaker 1: that means you short change yourself. Then everybody I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big recruit. I was like, I was
Speaker 1: like the middle of the road guy fighting for a spot.
Speaker 1: Where were you other options? By the way, So I
Speaker 1: got I got asked to walk on by a couple
Speaker 1: of places. Um my five trips you know back then,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's the same thing. You can
Speaker 1: pick five schools you took official visits to. It was
Speaker 1: you s c UH University of Colorado because I lived
Speaker 1: in Boulder. They were good national championship champions. Arizona State
Speaker 1: was a trip pizza alma mater. No, I got nothing
Speaker 1: from them. I ended up canceling the visit though, Pete,
Speaker 1: because it was right after USC and I went on
Speaker 1: campus at USC and I'm like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: a state. There's no chance. Um, so you didn't even go. No,
Speaker 1: I never showed up. Um Michigan State really yeah, he's LNS. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember that. My senior year was the year that
Speaker 1: Tony Manager came out, so it was like offensive line,
Speaker 1: big deal. And then Stanford was my last one. You
Speaker 1: would got into Stanford and he didn't get the grades
Speaker 1: to go to. Yeah, I was gonna say, you know
Speaker 1: who recruited me out of Stanford? Pete Bill Wallace? No, uh,
Speaker 1: Denny Green was dead coach at the time. No, but
Speaker 1: you know who what what position coach actually recruited me?
Speaker 1: Came to my house home, visit and met with my
Speaker 1: parents everything. Oh, Brian Billick, he was the wide receiver
Speaker 1: coach Denny Green's staff. Wow. So then you took the
Speaker 1: money in with the USC. I never got paid anything,
Speaker 1: and trust me, none of them were paying me anything.
Speaker 1: But when when you had recruiting visits, did no? So
Speaker 1: no head coach ever came to your house. Bill McCartney did, well,
Speaker 1: I was down the block. I'm trying to think. I
Speaker 1: think Denny Green would have. I believe Larry Smith did.
Speaker 1: He was the USC coach. Uh Perlist did not from
Speaker 1: Michigan State. I think he would have. I I um,
Speaker 1: so I took visits to my first visit in December,
Speaker 1: like early December when you start visits was Michigan State.
Speaker 1: The next visit was to UM, Colorado, and then before Christmas,
Speaker 1: I went to UH. Early in December, I went right
Speaker 1: to USC and so like the home visit started like
Speaker 1: in like that fall and so like, it didn't end
Speaker 1: until February. And I committed before I ever went on
Speaker 1: a visit to Stanford O or Arizona State UM, I
Speaker 1: committed on my trip to USC. I walked in that
Speaker 1: place and I just I'm literally I showed up. It
Speaker 1: took me on campus. I walked into Heritage Hall, saw
Speaker 1: the Heisman trophy, saw the history, went and met with
Speaker 1: the head coach, Larry Smith, and he says, hey, I
Speaker 1: went offer you a scholarship, and I said, coach, I'll
Speaker 1: take it. So so his so he didn't need to
Speaker 1: sell you on anything. So you didn't go there for
Speaker 1: Larry Smith, you went there for USC. I went there
Speaker 1: for USC, right, So that's what I'm saying. When Urban
Speaker 1: was first starting out like a Florida, they weren't. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had the spurior years. But that's I just I
Speaker 1: don't know, Maybe I'm cynical, but where one family where no,
Speaker 1: you're not. You're gonna use and abuse me just like
Speaker 1: you use it of you as every other kid that
Speaker 1: comes through here for your benefit. I know what it is.
Speaker 1: I know the game. Just tell me I was gonna
Speaker 1: play for national championships? Were I gonna be given a
Speaker 1: chance to be as a starter and a contributor on
Speaker 1: a regular basis? And can you get me to the league.
Speaker 1: That's all I want to know. Yeah, So, Pete, when
Speaker 1: I was at age, I was like, I wasn't a
Speaker 1: huge recruit and I you know, back they remember not
Speaker 1: very many teams were on TV either college footballs and
Speaker 1: so like USC, like rose Ball and like like seeing them.
Speaker 1: I just I remember like it was like them in
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I was at all and Notre Dame said
Speaker 1: they didn't want me. Like those two schools are like
Speaker 1: the two schools. I was like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: get it because like when I first went my first
Speaker 1: year at a s U, they played USC and I
Speaker 1: remember standing. I was eight seven years old. I remember
Speaker 1: wanting to come out of the tunnel. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's USC. So that the Trojans and like
Speaker 1: Michigan State was a great visit. I loved it. That
Speaker 1: was my I loved East Lansing and I loved that place.
Speaker 1: But if I went to see when that When Larry
Speaker 1: Smith looked at me and says, we're offering you a scholarship,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm in. I went home to the hotel.
Speaker 1: I went back to the hotel that night and I
Speaker 1: called my dad and I said, Dad, I committed to USC.
Speaker 1: He says, you did what You're supposed to go to
Speaker 1: Stanford next week. I go, Dad, I'm not going to Stanford.
Speaker 1: I'm going to US. Then you whispered in the phone.
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, you should see the envelope they see.
Speaker 1: That's not true, period, not true to your point about Urban.
Speaker 1: I didn't buy his stuff. I'm forty nine years old now,
Speaker 1: and I've been around the block. You've been around the block.
Speaker 1: You've seen too much. That's why you never bought it
Speaker 1: this time. But I was I was a seventeen year
Speaker 1: old cynic. I didn't care. I didn't believe anybody's crap,
Speaker 1: never have except for your own right. Like I said,
Speaker 1: in the world, Hey, the people in the world are beeps,
Speaker 1: and the other one percent have to prove they're not.
Speaker 1: I mean us. At least Tony, you know, contributed a
Speaker 1: Freedom Bowl trophy and a cotton Bowl trophy to that
Speaker 1: trophy Roman at Southern Cow yea. You know, teams were
Speaker 1: very good. My senior year we were good. We blew it.
Speaker 1: Rob Johnson got hurt. We lost the Oregon He remember
Speaker 1: Pete he played half of the Cotton Bowl and they
Speaker 1: put him in the Cotton Bowl hold he played one half.
Speaker 1: We were by the end of the By the end
Speaker 1: of the season, we were the best. I mean we
Speaker 1: had a young team besides, I mean Keishan Show had
Speaker 1: just shown up j C transfer. By the end of
Speaker 1: the year, no one wanted. I mean we beat Texas
Speaker 1: Tech in the Cotton Ball to ten. I mean we
Speaker 1: were rolling. But yes, fourteen yeah sorry. Um. The biggest were,
Speaker 1: like my biggest regret, not regret, disappointment in college football,
Speaker 1: and one of them in football overall is we had
Speaker 1: first and goal from the three yard line, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: the four against U c l A my junior year.
Speaker 1: If we score a touchdown, we go to the Rose
Speaker 1: Bowl and we got stuffed and through a pick, got
Speaker 1: stuffed on first down, stuffed on second down, through a
Speaker 1: pick on third down, and lost the game. Who would
Speaker 1: you have played in the Rose Bowl? Wisconsin? Oh, the Badgers?
Speaker 1: What year was that nineteen three? Was that was that
Speaker 1: Ron Dane? No, that might have been a Darryl Bubble game.
Speaker 1: May it might have been Daryl Bebble. You know who
Speaker 1: was on that ninety three team that we would have played.
Speaker 1: What was the defensive linemen we drafted at the sixth
Speaker 1: round out of Wisconsin that year. Mike Thompson. Mike Thompson,
Speaker 1: he was on that Wisconsin team one and one Wisconsin
Speaker 1: was And yeah, they beat U. C. L A in
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Who were the backs on that team? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Darryl bebl was the quarterback then team? How about that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: First in goal? Why why did they run behind you?
Speaker 1: We ran twice and then we got stuffed. Did you
Speaker 1: get blown up? No? I mean I didn't, but I
Speaker 1: didn't dominate. I was. It was my second game back
Speaker 1: after this locating my knee cap. I missed five games
Speaker 1: that year, and I mean I I think I stalemated
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean I didn't dominate him by any
Speaker 1: means um, but we got stuff that by the way,
Speaker 1: it was Keeping it Real Presented by Woodbridge by Robert
Speaker 1: Bundavi opened up a winner today really ingred against award
Speaker 1: winning wine by Robert Mundavi. I hope you guys are
Speaker 1: enjoying it. What's in that cup? Tony? I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak to that. Were on the air, Okay,
Speaker 1: marinate on that. We're back in a moment. Social media questions,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Tony, thank you. YouTube's Jaguar's Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on the jag Wars Digital Network. Welcome Back. Its Jaguar's
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselly the
Speaker 1: final show of the season. Pete, I know you're doing. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're doing playoff games. You're in studio. What are you doing? Thankfully?
Speaker 1: You know for me to go to playoff games and
Speaker 1: there's not really any access like it used to be.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost defeats the purpose. That's a good point, Tony.
Speaker 1: You're you're doing the first round for sure. We knew that.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all through. I'm doing Uh. I'm in um
Speaker 1: Dallas for the wild Supercard wild It's the super wild
Speaker 1: Card weekend. You might want to get that right, wild
Speaker 1: Card Wild week. It's gonna get wild bat. You might
Speaker 1: be heading somewhere else. Plenty of places in Dallas to
Speaker 1: celebrate that. I think it's super a wild card Sorry
Speaker 1: sorry super wild card weekend? Um, and then division Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping I've requested, but I won't know until after
Speaker 1: the games this weekend. I'm hoping to go to Nashville
Speaker 1: because it's easy close. And then it looks like I
Speaker 1: will most likely be in the n f C city
Speaker 1: for the UH Conference championships, which will probably be Green Back. Okayez,
Speaker 1: I might go out in the championship game. It depends
Speaker 1: on what the restrictions are. Well, if you do come
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, pete with me. We'll hang out. I've
Speaker 1: been there. I was there when Coughlin beat the Packers
Speaker 1: in the freezing cold game. It was the cold Goldens
Speaker 1: I've ever been in my life. Come out. You should
Speaker 1: come and we'll go get a big stake tonight before
Speaker 1: tell us, we'll tell lies are you? Are you going
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? Um? I'm not working in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year, so I will only be at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl if the Hall of Fame comes calling.
Speaker 1: They're gonna vote on that before the Super Bowl. That's
Speaker 1: why I just said I only go if that, let's
Speaker 1: watch it on television. I'll be watching it at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't wanna my my days as a sideline reporter
Speaker 1: are over. So I retired from sideline. Why you don't
Speaker 1: like doing it? I don't enjoy it. They like what
Speaker 1: you like. I just don't enjoy it. It's like, but
Speaker 1: it's a long day. My back hurts. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just don't enjoy it. And I told him this year,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do it, So I'm
Speaker 1: not fair enough. Well, I mean, at some point you
Speaker 1: gotta get in life and do what you enjoy doing.
Speaker 1: And that's not something you want to you'd like being
Speaker 1: in the booth. I like the booth and the championship game.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in the booth for one of the
Speaker 1: championship games? Yeah, I have the last the five years,
Speaker 1: four years, whoever it is, six years, whatever it is? Um,
Speaker 1: who who do you worked at last weekend with either
Speaker 1: Iron or Kevin Harlan, depends where they put them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kurt will be in one booth. I'll be in the
Speaker 1: other booth, and Kurt will do the super Bowl. Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. Um, seeing that he played in several I
Speaker 1: never did, so probably we'll never call a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: game from booth because I never played in one. Well,
Speaker 1: there you have it, and you wouldn't have played in
Speaker 1: one have had they made it ninety nine either? I
Speaker 1: would so oh you know a funny story about that?
Speaker 1: Uh pea. Um My my son had COVID. One of
Speaker 1: my kids had COVID, and so he's quarantined. So he
Speaker 1: went back and started watching old jaguarging. He's he My
Speaker 1: boys are the biggest Jaguar fans, both Andrew and Adam,
Speaker 1: my two boys, I mean love, live and die Jaguars.
Speaker 1: And my second son, Adam went back and watched old
Speaker 1: playoff games from the ninety six and old games and
Speaker 1: he'd be like calling me. I'm like, dude, I might
Speaker 1: go away. He's like, Dad, I was watching, like describing
Speaker 1: play son. I was there, and remember Pete. He went
Speaker 1: through the AMC Championship game in ninety six and he
Speaker 1: was like distraught that we lost the game. He was,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you lost a stupid special teams play
Speaker 1: blah blah, and it was I just made me laugh,
Speaker 1: brought back sad because we didn't make it. See you,
Speaker 1: I can still see you try to chase down after
Speaker 1: the bumble, and I can still see it like it's yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Brunell's interception was terrible because Jimmy ran the wrong route.
Speaker 1: I told on Jimmy, I told on you it was
Speaker 1: He tried to tell me it wasn't him, it was him. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's all spilt milk and you can't
Speaker 1: do anything about it. Now, what's gotta move on. That's right,
Speaker 1: We're moving on to social media questions we've got. We
Speaker 1: put out the bad signal, of course, earlier on Monday.
Speaker 1: Here's the best we come up with for the final
Speaker 1: show number one today at g MAC five six seven.
Speaker 1: After seeing Walker little improved over the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: is it enough for you to make him the starting
Speaker 1: left tackle next year? Or would you still bring Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson back this offseason? Um noted left tackle? Would you
Speaker 1: like to answer this question? Um? I did? I answered
Speaker 1: it earlier. I I to be determined. I gotta do
Speaker 1: more work. I mean it also depends, you know, what's
Speaker 1: the franchise number. What are you doing with the rest
Speaker 1: of um the offensive line? Where the holes you gotta
Speaker 1: make decisions with Linder and um Norwell, I mean, so
Speaker 1: there's a j can I mean, there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 1: Yet I don't think you make that in a vacuum,
Speaker 1: that decision, because you have five positions to fill um.
Speaker 1: Cam still is the best left tackle on this team
Speaker 1: right now as of this year. That doesn't mean Walk
Speaker 1: a little Cancer pass them. But if you're just looking,
Speaker 1: who had to, you know, look at all the tape
Speaker 1: for the entire year. Cam's better right now. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if Cam had a game as good as
Speaker 1: Walker Little hat on Sunday. I haven't watched it yet, Pete,
Speaker 1: because I was he got beat he got beat inside
Speaker 1: once by Buckner on a rug play, but he got
Speaker 1: he got he got bowled by uh quit quit pay
Speaker 1: one time. That's all yeah, yeah, yeah, so. But but again,
Speaker 1: you're right, Robinson in the big picture is a better
Speaker 1: left tackle right now. But why not have both of
Speaker 1: them back? You can figure out a way to play
Speaker 1: them both somewhere. I agree, That's what I'm saying my brain.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's one or the other. I mean,
Speaker 1: Walker Little's coming back for sure. That's a no brainer decision,
Speaker 1: is I agree with you, Pete. Why do you have
Speaker 1: to make a decision? By the way, I noticed him
Speaker 1: walking in with the with the quarterback after practice today.
Speaker 1: So like you, he's last onto the quarterback to keep
Speaker 1: his spot on the roster. It means he's smart. He's
Speaker 1: a smart man. Stay close. He went to Stanford. What
Speaker 1: do you want? Stay close to the franchise quarterback. And
Speaker 1: here's one thing, Pete, why couldn't you franchise Why couldn't
Speaker 1: you franchise Cam Robinson and trade him? You could, you could,
Speaker 1: depending on what else you do. You're right, you could
Speaker 1: just to protect yourself. Yeah, why would you let him
Speaker 1: walk out the door for freeze unless you're thinking you
Speaker 1: can get a cop pick back for him. Maybe you
Speaker 1: can get a second rounder if you franchise him. The
Speaker 1: last time the Jags had a compensation pick that hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: Usually that's how it works, all right. You still have
Speaker 1: a lot of money to spend JP, a whole lot,
Speaker 1: a whole lot. And if they make some of those
Speaker 1: moves like they make changes there, then that opens up
Speaker 1: even more money. I mean, Linda and Noral, those are
Speaker 1: the big ones to watch for not being back on offensive.
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know what he thing. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying based on injuries, based on performance, based on
Speaker 1: a lot of contracts, contracts, no money spent. I mean
Speaker 1: those are I'd be looking there. Next question social media
Speaker 1: today at britt Jack in the momentum yesterday's win carrying
Speaker 1: the next season. I know the consensus is normally no,
Speaker 1: but that win felt huge yesterday. The momentum of the
Speaker 1: wind doesn't carry over. Gonna a whole new staff, you
Speaker 1: have a whole new team. This team will look remarkably
Speaker 1: different next year. In a lot of ways we can
Speaker 1: carry over is the confidence of the individual players and
Speaker 1: the performance they have. Because you have a good taste
Speaker 1: of your mouth, it gives you something to build on.
Speaker 1: You have good feelings moving forward, so I think that
Speaker 1: you can build on it. But building on as a
Speaker 1: team win too much turnover is gonna happen to this organization? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it carries over. I just don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's for a guy like Trevor Lawrence. It
Speaker 1: probably says, oh, you know what, I know I could
Speaker 1: play this league. Now you know that. That gives me validation.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it carries over the next year.
Speaker 1: Easy enough. Next question social media at Duvall Underscore buck
Speaker 1: Eyes victory Monday Boys. If you were to rank the
Speaker 1: open coaching positions, where would the Jags rank Pete? It
Speaker 1: would rank up there. I don't know where i'd rank it,
Speaker 1: but I think you've got an owner that's willing to spend,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of cap room. You have the
Speaker 1: first overall pick. I think we said this all last year.
Speaker 1: By the way, um it's it's it's in a state
Speaker 1: that has no staying income tax and you get a
Speaker 1: new facility and you're by the beach and the weather
Speaker 1: is good. So aside from that, what's wrong with it?
Speaker 1: And Minnesota weather staks Miami? You gotta you know, like
Speaker 1: jack there's the problem. Like Jacksonville, you inherited general manager
Speaker 1: because Chris Careers staying the Raider. I think the Raiders
Speaker 1: are gonna keep rich pisaccia um and the Broncos job.
Speaker 1: That's where's the quarterback of all those teams? The Bears
Speaker 1: have a quarterback, the Jaguars have a quarterback, and the
Speaker 1: Raiders have a quarterback. So that makes them and to up.
Speaker 1: If you think he's good, and there's questions, you're still
Speaker 1: out there. Do you think two is good? Do you
Speaker 1: think he's a franchise quarterback, Pete, I don't I leaned
Speaker 1: towards you. I haven't seen as much as you have.
Speaker 1: He got better, he got better, but nothing but nothing
Speaker 1: jumps off the pages like being dynamic. Tell me like
Speaker 1: one like, what is one thing he like, physical trait
Speaker 1: or quality that he has? It's just over the top
Speaker 1: and that's what worries me. I think the great ones do.
Speaker 1: Um the I think the question about where this job
Speaker 1: ranks is is how is how is the question mark
Speaker 1: of Trent Balky or right now he is? How does
Speaker 1: Trent Balky being the GM? Um? How's that play? Across
Speaker 1: the league? There's a lot of strong opinions about Trent ball.
Speaker 1: What was that, Pete? That doesn't play well? Right? And Pete?
Speaker 1: But don't you agree? I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: strong opinions about tramp, about Trent Balky around the wing.
Speaker 1: At least that's what I hear. Pete, you're more even
Speaker 1: connected than I am. I mean, asked a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people questioning him being
Speaker 1: in that job, still in that job? Yes, absolutely, so
Speaker 1: there you have it. Um, let's get let's get one
Speaker 1: more in Why not one more social why not at
Speaker 1: Lloyd are one L. Pete should be a GM, right,
Speaker 1: JP and Tony No, I like this guy. I like
Speaker 1: this guy. They didn't ask you, Pete. They asked J
Speaker 1: P JP. What's your answer? Uh? They asked me, h Nana,
Speaker 1: that's two knows you lose. It's just football, It's not
Speaker 1: that complicated. Really. I will say this about Pete Priscoe
Speaker 1: in all series and Pete and I have known each
Speaker 1: other twenty seven years now. Yeah, and there is not
Speaker 1: a harder working I should maybe there's a harder working,
Speaker 1: but there's not a guy who studies the craft and
Speaker 1: studies film and actually really looks at it and actually
Speaker 1: makes phone calls and picks up and ask people who
Speaker 1: know more than he does about film and what they're
Speaker 1: looking at to confirm whether he is right or wrong.
Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying Pete will ever be a GM,
Speaker 1: but could Pete be a part of his staff to
Speaker 1: help build a team. Yes, Pete knows football, he knows
Speaker 1: personnel and more than anything, he's a grinder that would
Speaker 1: work at it to study and uncover um the right
Speaker 1: type of people I mean, because he I mean, So
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, you're right. About the GM part of it,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to deal with them, with with
Speaker 1: somebody's uh, you know, shoot contract or or you know,
Speaker 1: did you get the building painted? Or or you know
Speaker 1: who who's are we gonna get a new support staff.
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with it, and I just
Speaker 1: want to deal with football players. That's all. I want
Speaker 1: to deal with, getting football players, acquiring football players, making decisions,
Speaker 1: grinding the tape watching players. No, he and he would.
Speaker 1: I mean this morning, we both happen to call the
Speaker 1: same head uh, same coach in the NFL and then
Speaker 1: at the same time. And my point is, I mean
Speaker 1: Pete does his work, and Pete he texted me all
Speaker 1: the time. He sends film to me. He says, hey,
Speaker 1: is this right with am I looking? Am I seeing
Speaker 1: this right? About this offensive lineman? And I'll say, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what you're looking at. And so I always
Speaker 1: you're changing your answer to yes. I don't think he
Speaker 1: could be a GM. I think he could be a
Speaker 1: part of it either because I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the GM. I don't think because the GM is more
Speaker 1: than just picking players, like be a pro personnel guy.
Speaker 1: I think he could be a part of his staff
Speaker 1: because he knows football. He has he has strong convictions
Speaker 1: and he would do the work to go figure it out.
Speaker 1: That's why I think, hey, um, let's come back. We
Speaker 1: gotta get around the league and we're up against it,
Speaker 1: against it and do a quick around the league. We
Speaker 1: had to say goodbye for the year. We gotta get
Speaker 1: proper goodbyes short around the league. If you could talking,
Speaker 1: we might be able to care. This is Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: our final few minutes for the final show of season
Speaker 1: JP Shattered with Tony Boselli and Pete Frisco. We will
Speaker 1: change our look around the National Football League with a
Speaker 1: look ahead to the schedules on Super wild Card Weekend. Tony,
Speaker 1: you might want to learn the name of the weekend. Okay,
Speaker 1: super wild Card Weekend. It's not Supercard Wild Wild Weekend. No,
Speaker 1: it might be a wild weekend weekend. I got confused. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's in the real off season. The let's start the
Speaker 1: a f C coming up. They have Saturday and Sunday
Speaker 1: schedule in the a f C. The Raiders and the
Speaker 1: Bengals Saturday for Patriots Bills Saturday at eight fifteen, and
Speaker 1: then Sunday eight fifteen the Steelers and the Chiefs. Who
Speaker 1: do you like in these think? Um? I like the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I do like the Raiders. That's I think it's a
Speaker 1: really tough game. They've already played each other once. On paper,
Speaker 1: it looks like the Bengals should win this game because
Speaker 1: of the way Burrow and Chase and everyone else is playing.
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are a young team, young coach,
Speaker 1: I can see them. The Raiders haven't been there either, No,
Speaker 1: but I just like the Raiders are scrappy. Pete. You
Speaker 1: know what the Raiders remind me a little bit of
Speaker 1: is that our nineties six team, Like they had to
Speaker 1: win out to get in, Like they've been playing playoff
Speaker 1: games every week, and like they were everyone had them
Speaker 1: dead to rights at six and seven and the huh
Speaker 1: and they could rush the passer like I just like,
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are the better team. I think
Speaker 1: they have the better receiving corps. I think they have
Speaker 1: a better quarterback. I think they you know, but I
Speaker 1: like the Raiders. Um, I'm going Patriots in the upset. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm not. And I'm going to Chief on the road,
Speaker 1: I'm going Chiefs. At home, I'm going Bengals, Bill's Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Although I think the Raiders game is gonna be really close.
Speaker 1: You're going all home games. You know that never happens,
Speaker 1: So that's okay. Let's go to the NFC schedule on
Speaker 1: Super wild Card weekend. The Eagles at the Buccaneers Sunday
Speaker 1: at one o'clock, the forty Niners at the Cowboys, Tony,
Speaker 1: you'll have that game Sunday at four thirty, and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Rams Monday. I'm going Buccaneers. I think
Speaker 1: that's the worst game of the weekend. I think although
Speaker 1: the Eagles can run the ball and they have some
Speaker 1: success in the second half when they played the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: earlier of the year, to make that game close, but
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks win. I don't think the blowout.
Speaker 1: I think playoffs usually close to be close. I think
Speaker 1: it's forty Niners on the upset on the road, and
Speaker 1: I like the Rams at home. I don't. I think
Speaker 1: arizon is gonna beat him again. I think both those
Speaker 1: teams are kind of floundering. I think Arizona beats him again.
Speaker 1: I'll take by the way Tony. The Rams offensive line
Speaker 1: the other day was terrible against the terrible. I'll take
Speaker 1: I'll take the Niners, and I'll take the box you
Speaker 1: have at the schedule for Super wild Card weekend in
Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs. This is our final show of the season. UM,
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure doing it with you guys each week.
Speaker 1: What is this You're six? We've been doing a while now,
Speaker 1: I know that, um. I. First of all, UM, it's
Speaker 1: fun as always. I always missed the show. Love working
Speaker 1: with Pete as usual. Pete and I have been good
Speaker 1: friends for a long time and go back and forth
Speaker 1: and see a lot of things alike and a lot
Speaker 1: of things in a different view at the same time. UM.
Speaker 1: J P, good job this year putting up with our
Speaker 1: our stuff. I was about to say another word that
Speaker 1: I can't say on the air. Fair appreciate you A
Speaker 1: good job steering the ship and keeping it making sure
Speaker 1: we're on course. Joe, good job producing Reeves in the background.
Speaker 1: We have a good team here. This is a good
Speaker 1: show and I love doing with you guys. I do too,
Speaker 1: And uh, I echo everything you just said, Tony. JP
Speaker 1: keeps up with us and puts up with our garbage,
Speaker 1: and uh. The other thing is we're allowed to say things.
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say things. I love that. That's the
Speaker 1: greatest thing about this show. I wouldn't do it if
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I give the Jaguars all the credit in
Speaker 1: the world because I can say what I need to
Speaker 1: say if that's what makes it fun. And one more thing,
Speaker 1: next time when we reconvene, somebody's head isn't gonna fit
Speaker 1: in that studio. I'm telling you, and I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about yours. JP with you, Oh, with you, hey, Pete,
Speaker 1: um from your from your mouth to God's ears, bat baby.
Speaker 1: And also we have thanks to Chad Johnson for the
Speaker 1: sport this year. I took over the radio and UH
Speaker 1: and leads to this organization and during a tough year,
Speaker 1: a lot of controversy, a lot of things. To Pete's point,
Speaker 1: his leadership, guidance and allow us to have fun on
Speaker 1: the show and do what we do. Appreciate it. Chad.
Speaker 1: Let's do the show again from Canton, Ohio. That'd be fun. Pete.
Speaker 1: I will that, I will host that. I will host
Speaker 1: the show if that happens. No, you won't you, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna host the show. In the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Let you're gonna I'm not going to show,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna host all of get fired. No, I'm saying
Speaker 1: to host every right job. You're fire. I'm gonna host
Speaker 1: the show, playing everyone. Everyone will be together. Out of here.
Speaker 1: I don't want to host the show. Pete Briscoe, that's
Speaker 1: tell Sally. I'm J P. Shadrick. I'm fired. Apparently this
Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.