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Speaker 1: It is Monday, January ten. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who at eight pm really wants

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Speaker 1: not call. Between eight and eleven tonight, welcome in its

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick. It's

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Speaker 1: the final show of the season and we've got a

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Speaker 1: busy program. Is always CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco

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Speaker 1: coming up prior to the Jaguars, left tackle Tony Boselli

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Speaker 1: has chosen to grace us with his presence tonight in

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Speaker 1: studio or review. Week eighteen a Jaguars w eleven the

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Speaker 1: final score. That's only the fourth time in league history

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Speaker 1: that final score has happened. By the way social media question,

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of those. We'll go around the league.

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Speaker 1: In Week eight teena playoff pree of you all that

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Speaker 1: coming up. The Jags with a stunning went over the

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Speaker 1: Colts that rocked the final week in the a f

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Speaker 1: C playoff race. The Jags offense rolled early, had a

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Speaker 1: long touchdown drive and opening drive touchdown for the first

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Speaker 1: time since Week two for this Jags team and they

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Speaker 1: were off and rolling after that. Defense had a couple

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Speaker 1: of second half takeaways, the best all around game the

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Speaker 1: Jags have played all season. After the game, Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: on moving forward, I think I think everybody was kind

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Speaker 1: of saying that in themselves, not not where was this,

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Speaker 1: but just, um, it's always, I guess, mixed emotions. I

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Speaker 1: would say always Today is mixed emotions of we finished

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Speaker 1: the way we want to finish and you can't ever

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Speaker 1: go back. And that's something I've learned, is you gotta

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Speaker 1: do everything you can in the moment because you can't

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Speaker 1: go back and change it when it's done. So um,

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Speaker 1: you don't have regrets, but you do have that feeling

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Speaker 1: of just, man, we could have been doing this all season.

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Speaker 1: It's it's disappointing, um to look back and think that,

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Speaker 1: especially some of the close games we lost and then

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Speaker 1: just games where we didn't play well, but just to

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, that's who we are, that's what

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Speaker 1: we can do. But you're not that unless you do

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Speaker 1: it weekend in a week out. So um, But honestly,

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Speaker 1: more more so than that, just the confidence that this builds,

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Speaker 1: you know, going forward, like that's a good that's a

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Speaker 1: good football team that we just we just beat and

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Speaker 1: really dominated the game, and just really proud of of

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Speaker 1: our guys. That's the quarterback after the game yesterday, Pete

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Speaker 1: Frisco and Tony Boselli joining us now, good afternoon and Tony,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. I I liked his comments there because it

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Speaker 1: was it was honest that you know, it felt good

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Speaker 1: a bunch of changes. We'll get into that in a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but let's just talk about Trevor in that comment,

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Speaker 1: because he is a big part of what is going

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Speaker 1: to move forward, and so there's that good taste of

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Speaker 1: saying like, Okay, we can do this, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's even I can do this. Not that he ever

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Speaker 1: if you really want to just call it what it is, Um.

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Speaker 1: But then he was also honest enough to say, but

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Speaker 1: that's not who we are, because it's only who we

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Speaker 1: And that's the truth because that you know, don't get

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Speaker 1: fooled to think that's who this team is. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: the potential of what they can be, or what we

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Speaker 1: but it's not who they are. Who they are is

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Speaker 1: a thirteen and four, three and fourteen team. UM. But

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Speaker 1: yesterday it was fun and it was good, and it

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Speaker 1: And they played it perfectly. They took away what they

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Speaker 1: It was fun to watch, And the entire NFL and

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Speaker 1: all the fans in this whole world should be thanking

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars because what they did yesterday set up

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine what the Colts plane ride home was

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Speaker 1: And but it's funny how in a span of two

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Speaker 1: Hundred and one different players played for this year. They

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Speaker 1: If that guy says, I can make him a scout,

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Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be influencing my decisions, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get another general I helped get another general manager in here.

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Speaker 1: Then you make up a scout. There are ways around it.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is Trent Balky should not be making

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Speaker 1: the decision to hire the new coach, nor should he

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Speaker 1: be influencing that decision to hire a new coach, because

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Speaker 1: if I'm Trent Balky, human nature tells me I'm looking

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Speaker 1: out for nobody. He's done in a lot in his career.

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Speaker 1: You look out for number one. And if you're looking

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Speaker 1: out for and and look by the way, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna fault him on that, because that's the credo of

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Speaker 1: mine for a long time. But if you're looking out

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Speaker 1: for number one, you're gonna hire somebody that you can

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Speaker 1: work with rather than somebody that might be best for

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Speaker 1: the organization. And that's where the problem is. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: why I wouldn't hire you either, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: you need someone looking at for you know, there's no

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Speaker 1: there is an eye and ten. I think all the difference, Tony,

446
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Speaker 1: here's the difference. If I was the generman I'm joking,

447
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Speaker 1: were general manager and I was the coach, we'd find

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Speaker 1: a way to make it work, because we're smart enough

449
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Speaker 1: to realize if you make it work, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: great for both. I agree with you, Pete, I'm joking

451
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Speaker 1: about that somebody that you brought up a good point,

452
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: though ego has brought down many an NFL team. Well

453
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Speaker 1: we saw, I mean it didn't work in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and listen, I have nothing against Trent Malky.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to look at history. You

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Speaker 1: have to look at where you are, and you have

457
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Speaker 1: to look at what this team and organization just went

458
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Speaker 1: through and whether it's right or wrong. Trenton Urban were together. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean you hear these stories San Francisco Harbor and

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Speaker 1: Trent bad Harbor and Tom Seula bad hardball. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean Trenton, Tom Seula bad, Trent and chi Kelly Moron,

462
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Speaker 1: Jip Kelly, Trent Moron went bad and Tread and Urban

463
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: were tight and until the end where it was, they weren't.

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Speaker 1: And so you see a common theme in there. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I think I want to take a step back

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Speaker 1: to Pete and because you talk about getting there right

467
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Speaker 1: the right head coach, but I think you before you,

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Speaker 1: even as you're going down that path and find the

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Speaker 1: right coach, I think you have to look at the

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Speaker 1: structure of the organization. I think that's why I'm saying

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Speaker 1: you can't just have dread there. I'm not disagree with you,

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Speaker 1: and and and I mean actually because I have an

473
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Speaker 1: opinion on this, Pete and so much you hear about it.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about the Jaguars. This point is, well,

475
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Speaker 1: all these jobs are opening up, but now there's competition,

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Speaker 1: you better get be first. I just don't know how

477
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Speaker 1: much being first matters in this. It's I'd rather get

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Speaker 1: it right. And now, obviously if your first, you have

479
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Speaker 1: your whole pick. But my fears you start to be first,

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Speaker 1: you start rushing things and you're like, I gotta make

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Speaker 1: a quick decision because I don't want to miss out

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Speaker 1: because all these other Because here's the reality, there's only

483
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Speaker 1: thirty two of these jobs, and these coaches will do

484
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Speaker 1: anything and say anything to get one of these jobs

485
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Speaker 1: because they're they're they're a gold mine and then strives

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Speaker 1: to be So I'm not I'm not faulting them, by

487
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Speaker 1: the way, I'm not saying these coaches are bad people.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this is like human like, this is what

489
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Speaker 1: they're striving for and these are hard to come by.

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Speaker 1: And so I think you have to take a whole

491
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Speaker 1: step back and look at it from a macro sense

492
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Speaker 1: of like the big picture and like structure and like

493
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Speaker 1: who we want to be and how do we want

494
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Speaker 1: to do this and what is best um for our organization?

495
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Speaker 1: Gives us the best chance to win. And in this case,

496
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Speaker 1: because you have a young franchise quarterback who I think

497
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Speaker 1: is the future, you better be thinking about him as

498
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Speaker 1: you're structuring this organization and who you have involved in it.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. You don't necessarily have to

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Speaker 1: go out and find the hot coordinator from a good

501
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Speaker 1: defense or a good team. You need a leader of

502
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Speaker 1: men who can delegate, and maybe not even a play callers.

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Speaker 1: Some of the best coaches in the league haven't been

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Speaker 1: play callers. It's Mike Thomas doesn't do anything on the

505
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Speaker 1: sidelines plays. John Harbaugh is pretty good. He doesn't do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and so that's the kind of guy you need

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Speaker 1: to find. You need to find a guy like that.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you on the structure. If you

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Speaker 1: go for an E D P up top, then the

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00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: general manager, then the coach all working together. And I

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Speaker 1: don't see that. We haven't heard Have you heard anything

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Speaker 1: any talking to that and I have not. I have

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Speaker 1: not heard anything. But that doesn't mean I mean, it's

514
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Speaker 1: not like I mean, it's not like you there's a

515
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Speaker 1: statement from the owners, like you know what I'm saying. No,

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Speaker 1: I agree, but he has to think jaguars like, for example,

517
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Speaker 1: the Bears are leaning on Bill Polly and to help

518
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Speaker 1: him in the church. Ye, and I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, and there's only one person who does.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it is Aim is shot con. He

521
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Speaker 1: happens to be the owner of this team. And I'm

522
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: sure he's talking to certain people and getting input, but

523
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Speaker 1: ultimately this isn't be his call. And this is where

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Speaker 1: I go back to Trent and we can move on

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Speaker 1: after this. But you know, right now, Trent Balky is

526
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Speaker 1: the GM, he's under contract, he is working, and he

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Speaker 1: might be the GM next year and he might not be.

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Speaker 1: We won't know. And maybe in Shan might just say,

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Speaker 1: why am I making a statement. He's the GM, he's

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Speaker 1: under contract, We're moving forward. Maybe he'll come out and

531
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Speaker 1: say something, maybe he'll make a change. We don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just thinking, look at the big picture. Something has

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Speaker 1: to drastically change because whatever we've been doing for the

534
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: last ten years isn't working. It's broken, and that's just

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not being I love this place. There's

536
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Speaker 1: I would argue, there's very few people who love it

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Speaker 1: as much as I do. So I'm not being critical

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Speaker 1: Shot or anybody. It's just reality. And that's what the

539
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Speaker 1: numbers tell you. And it's it is what it is,

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Speaker 1: and and it is what it is, and what it

541
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Speaker 1: is needs to change. So it's something else next year

542
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Speaker 1: in the years to come. What it is is not

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Speaker 1: good right now. Um, we'll come back plenty ahead on

544
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Speaker 1: this topic. Of course, we'll touch on some of the

545
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: highlights again from yesterday's win over the Colts. Second hour

546
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Speaker 1: coming up your social media questions. We're gonna keep it real.

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Speaker 1: We always do think we are keeping it real, are

548
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Speaker 1: we not. Oh, it's it's real, all right. Uh, and

549
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Speaker 1: it's spectacular. And this is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by

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Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back

551
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon after the regular season.

552
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Speaker 1: This is the final show season, the final time j P, Shadrick,

553
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: Tony Basselli, and Pete Prisco will be together in this season. Well,

554
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: maybe we'll, you know, do a one off year or

555
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: there in the off season, but I don't know. Pete's

556
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: agent is tough, Pete is top, but is going to

557
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: go up this year? Yeah, A lot of things before

558
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Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that path right now, Pete, please, uh,

559
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about we're talking about last segment,

560
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Speaker 1: all this stuff, right, So let's Trent Balky is the GM.

561
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Speaker 1: He's the GM, and let's say it moves forward like that.

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Speaker 1: What is the best candidate of the names that are

563
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Speaker 1: out there right now that would make a good fit. Yeah,

564
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Speaker 1: And I think that's a good conversation JP, because I

565
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Speaker 1: think we should assume for right now that train is

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Speaker 1: the gym, because he is, he's under contract, and UM,

567
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: transmit around football a long time. He knows personnel, He's

568
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: been scouted a lot of different places, He's had success. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean if you look at this draft this year,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people have killed him for

571
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Speaker 1: it at times. But I mean I think yesterday, set

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Speaker 1: aside Trevor Lawrence, UM, you know, obviously we don't know

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Speaker 1: about et N. He talked today, Yeah, he talked. But

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Speaker 1: whether you like picking a draft running back in the

575
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Speaker 1: first round or not, Pete and I are in agreement here.

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Speaker 1: We probably would not. But you know that's not fair

577
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Speaker 1: to et because he might be a great place Tyson

578
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Speaker 1: Campbell is. I mean, all it looks like it's gonna

579
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: be a really good player, and he's gonna be a

580
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: good corner, and that Trent picked him. And you look

581
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: at Walker Little, um shaky early, but he was also

582
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Speaker 1: out of year. Um it was supposed to be a

583
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Speaker 1: first rounder before he got hurt and sat out for

584
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Speaker 1: covid um. I think you look at it. The last

585
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Speaker 1: two weeks he progressed and you know, like, all right,

586
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Speaker 1: this is a guy that we feel like has a

587
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Speaker 1: chance to be a starting caliber and a good football

588
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Speaker 1: player on this team. He played well and he played good.

589
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: About the farm on him though, yet he was really

590
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Speaker 1: good yesterday. Yeah. Am I gonna bet the farm on

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Speaker 1: him a two weeks? No? But I think he's like

592
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Speaker 1: but he can be in your plans. Yeah, He's an

593
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Speaker 1: NFL quality left Yeah yeah. And and I think it

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Speaker 1: does make you have aversation what you do with Cam Robinson.

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Speaker 1: I think right now where I sit, I probably still

596
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Speaker 1: be leaning towards bringing him back because you have enough

597
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Speaker 1: holes in that offensive line. Maybe one of them can

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Speaker 1: move to guard. I mean, Walker Little is a big,

599
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Speaker 1: powerful dude. You watch him run block. I mean he's powerful,

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Speaker 1: and so maybe maybe you can move him down to guard.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe I don't know. He

602
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: looked natural left tack. I know I'm not saying you're

603
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Speaker 1: gonna move him to guard, but you know, you still

604
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Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna do it at the right tackle.

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Speaker 1: With Joan Taylor, I mean he's yesterday he looked better too.

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Speaker 1: He's in his fourth year. You know, maybe he brings

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Speaker 1: him back. You know, he said plainly today, by the way,

608
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Speaker 1: he's not a guard. He's no, I don't think he is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has a guard. If you look

610
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Speaker 1: at him, if his how his body type and everything else. Um,

611
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Speaker 1: you know, so it makes you gives you some optionality.

612
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Speaker 1: Now you have to think about Cam Robinson when you

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Speaker 1: do there. Um, but that so that was his draft pick. Cisco.

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Speaker 1: I think the last two weeks. I don't know why

615
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Speaker 1: it took him so long to get him on the field,

616
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Speaker 1: but you know, did some stings, ball hawking running around.

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Speaker 1: You know, that look good. So, I mean it's hard

618
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Speaker 1: to say about the uh the young defensive end outside

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Speaker 1: pass rusher. I can't think of his name right now.

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Speaker 1: Jordan or Smith didn't play, had a couple of plays. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all is someone I have not been overly. I think

622
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Speaker 1: he gets pushed around too much. Uh. Questions about that one.

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Speaker 1: But that's a mid round draft pick. So my point

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Speaker 1: is saying, let's assume Pete the Trent staying here. If

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Speaker 1: you're Trent Balky and Shot Khan and we're assuming that

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Speaker 1: the two of them are doing the interviews together, what

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Speaker 1: kind of head coach are you looking for? Peeper scouts

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Speaker 1: the same both report the Shot a guy who's been

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Speaker 1: a head coach before. Okay, of those guys, give me

630
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Speaker 1: your list. Caldwell and Peterson probably would lead that group. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about Todd Bowls? I think Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowles could be good. That'd be a good choice too.

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Speaker 1: I like Todd Bowls. I had a chance with the Jet.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he had a chance with the Jets,

635
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: So another opportunity for him would be good. And if

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Speaker 1: you've been around Todd and you have uh, Todd gets it.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to play the games and the players

638
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Speaker 1: will respect him, but respect him. He's very very smart,

639
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Speaker 1: very very organized. Um, what would be your biggest question

640
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: mark around Todd Bowls? And what would you want to

641
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Speaker 1: ask him if you were interviewing him? Who's what kind

642
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: of often you're gonna run. Who's your coordinator? I think

643
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: that's the that's the one thing that could either put

644
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Speaker 1: him higher on the list or drop him down the list.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if you were Todd Bowls and you

646
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Speaker 1: to get Bill O'Brien as your offensive coordinator, that would

647
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Speaker 1: be a good parent. Yeah. I think Bill O'Brian's a

648
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: good offensive coach. I really do. And I'm not so

649
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: sure he's not a bad football coach. I just don't

650
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: think he can have control because we saw what he

651
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: did with control and when it went awry. Here's my

652
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: problem with Bill O'Brien and Trent Balky. They wouldn't they

653
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: would clash. That's there. You're gonna get back to the

654
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: same old, same old. They're gonna clash. I don't think

655
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Speaker 1: that could work. Jim called Well could work with Trent

656
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Speaker 1: Balky because he's that kind of guy. The problem is

657
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Speaker 1: with Trent Balky take advantage of that, you know what

658
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean? Because Jim called Well is a really nice guy.

659
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: So when Trent Balky take advantage of that, I don't

660
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: I think you have to. And Doug Peterson is interesting.

661
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got skims on the wall. He wanted

662
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: super ball, and he'd be good for the quarterback. He's

663
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: a former NFL quarterback. He'd be good for the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I think of those guys, that's the coaches that

665
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: have you know, Josh Mthdaniels isn't coming. They haven't even talked,

666
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: they even put his name out there. What about what

667
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: about the um the non head coaches? How would you

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Speaker 1: rank the I'll just name you three guys that have

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Speaker 1: been coordinated Hackett left, which and more rank? I don't

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Speaker 1: I think. Look, I'm big on Byron. I think he's

671
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Speaker 1: gonna be a coach. I think that the whole thing

672
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: of coming back to Jacksonville being the coach might be

673
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: a problem. I mean, Biman had a bad experience in Jacksonville.

674
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Speaker 1: The fans didn't like him, he didn't like it. That

675
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: might be a problem. He'll be a head coach. He

676
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: should be a head coach. I don't know if this

677
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: is a good fit. Kelly Moore, I'm not sure he's

678
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: ready yet. We're rushing that one a little bit. And

679
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Speaker 1: the other one, who's the third one you asked me

680
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Speaker 1: about a hack for him? Yeah? I think Nate hack

681
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: and I've talked to Rogers about Nate Hackett, and he

682
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: loves him. He loves Aaron Rodgers loves Nate Hackett. Is

683
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett ready A and B. He had a bad

684
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: experience in Jacksonville. They fired him, they made an escape,

685
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Speaker 1: goat fired. Yeah, so I think in the middle of

686
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Speaker 1: eighteen when that happened, I think we're aligned on you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of Todd Bowles called Well, I'd wonder about I'd

688
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: wonder about Codwell staff, Like who would he be Jim

689
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: calledwell being. I mean, I have the utmost respect for him,

690
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: what he's done, who he is as a man, as

691
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: a leader. I think he'd command respect in the locker room.

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00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: I think he'd be good for the building. I'd worry.

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Speaker 1: I'd wonder about who his staff would be, Like, who's

694
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Speaker 1: like because he's been out, he's been out a little bit,

695
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: Pete right, And and here's the other thing. He's also

696
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Speaker 1: sixty six. I mean that's he's not a kid. I mean,

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00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: that's not that you can get five years out of him.

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00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: But again, it's not a kid. Here's a guy that's

699
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Speaker 1: nobody's men to day. Leslie Frazier, I'll give you another

700
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: one where he Morris. I think Raheem will be much

701
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: much better than the second time around. And I think

702
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: where he would be the first one to tell you that.

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00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Raheem was ready when he got it

704
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: the first He just wasn't mature enough. He's matured. He's

705
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: a good coach. I think he'd be a good higher Yeah.

706
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: And as you look at the and I'll be quick,

707
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: JP don't know we're up against it. If you look

708
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: at the three guys you talked about Pete that we're

709
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: not head coaches. I agree with you him more. I

710
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: don't think he's ready. I do worry about left which

711
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: coming like Pete does coming back here. I really like Byron.

712
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: I think when a Byron's strength would be a standing

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00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: in front of the fifty three guys, I think he

714
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: would command the respect. Um. I've heard good things about him.

715
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: I just think like he's still he's only been a

716
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: coordinator and or one guy, Bruce arians he's never been

717
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: anywhere else. He's only been in that seat a few

718
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: years as the real coordinator. So he's still a young coach.

719
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Speaker 1: I think there's some maturing. And my question would be

720
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: not that whether Bryan would be will be a good

721
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: head coach in this league or not? Is him maturing

722
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: to becoming that person? Best to be done here in

723
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with the history and not just the history of

724
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: his but where we are as a franchise right now.

725
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask, and that the Nathaniel Hackett.

726
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: I think Nathaniel Hackett did one of the greatest coaching

727
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: jobs as an offensive coordinator ever to get what he'd

728
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: got out of the Jacksonville Jaguars with Blake Portless quarterback.

729
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was outstanding, and I thought he got

730
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: absolutely done wrong in eighteen getting fired the way he did.

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Speaker 1: My question with Dathaniel Hackett, and this is what you'd

732
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: have to have long conversations. You'd have to really get

733
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Speaker 1: comfortable as a as an owner and as a as

734
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: as an organization. Can you picture Nathaniel Hackett stand in

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00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: front of the entire team and commanding the respect of

736
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Speaker 1: the entire organization of those fifty three guys. Pete brings

737
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: up a great point. If you can do it with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that's saying something right there all by itself.

739
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: So I think Davaniel, I think Nathaniel Hackett's a real,

740
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: real candidate, and they're gonna interview him, and I think

741
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see where that goes real quick.

742
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: JP rich Besaccia is the interim coach of the Raiders.

743
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: He's been around this league forever and they love him

744
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: and he says and he can have a hammer man.

745
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: He can be tough on his guy. He'll call him out.

746
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: But he's not a play caller. He's not a good

747
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: He's just an overseer and he's involved. But he didn't

748
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: called the defense, and you don't call the offense. Sometimes

749
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: out there you can. John Harball was one of those guys.

750
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: You can find a guy who could just lead the

751
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: whole thing and not necessarily be an x as an

752
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: those guy from a good offense or a good defense.

753
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: That's what you have to find. And I think there's

754
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: there and they haven't even gone any of that route yet.

755
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: These are all been ex coaches and coordinators so far.

756
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Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment after order finalize the

757
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: top sixteen, at least after the regular season is done.

758
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: The Jaguars land at the top spoiler winn win a

759
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: winner winner and a number one overall pick. Yesterday, pretty

760
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: good day at the office. Second hour coming up just

761
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: a little bit as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented

762
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Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're

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00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: back Jaguars Happy Hour. Monday. After the regular season, j

764
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: P Shadrick Tony was Elly Pete Prisco the final time

765
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: for campaign. Now it's onto the off season and everything

766
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: that brings. Coaching search is under way and soon the

767
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: NFL Draft right around the corner. Yes, the Jaguars have

768
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick for the second year in

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00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: a row. The top sixteen in fact finalized. Yes today Jaguars.

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00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: The Lions gotta win, so they finished three thirteen and one.

771
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: The Texans will pick third, Jets fourth, Giants fifth with

772
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: their own picks Panthers six, Giants get, the Bears pick

773
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Speaker 1: at seven, Falcons at eight, Broncos at nine, Jets are

774
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Speaker 1: at number ten. There you have it in the top ten.

775
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: So the New York teams picking twice in the top

776
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Speaker 1: ten and the Jaguars right there at the top. Again,

777
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Speaker 1: here we go. Draft talk commences. Pete, who you pick

778
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: a number one? You're the GM You know what. I

779
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: went back and watched more Hutchinson tape. I'm taking Hutchinson

780
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: over there, over the organ kid. Yeah, he's a better

781
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: player here. Here's the thing when I like, somebody said

782
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: to me, they go is Penn State tape wasn't great.

783
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: So I went back and watched it. At three sacks

784
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: in the game, they chipped them and did everybody. The

785
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: running backs got on them in the tight end, chipped

786
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: the one every play. They ran away from him almost

787
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: the entire game, and they got the ball out of

788
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback's hands quickly. He's still got three sacks. He's

789
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: a disruptor. He's a place hard, his hands ring. You

790
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: know the guys with the hands, the boases, those guys

791
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: that know how to use their hands, and they look

792
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: like when they got to the NFL, they look like

793
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: pros already. He's one of those guys. He's got the

794
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: great get the hands off me as he's rushed in

795
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: the passer and and he's a big I think he's

796
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna get bigger. I don't think he's not a thick

797
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: kid yet. He's watching him against Georgia, whicheverone killed him. Yeah,

798
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: he got the left tackle was laying on top of him.

799
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: A couple of times. I mean, I mean, the left

800
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: tackle is gonna be in starting tackle on the league,

801
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: by the way, just to tell you. And he wasn't

802
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: He wasn't bad, he wasn't but he just didn't get

803
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia has dominated that game overall. Did you

804
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: watch the Michigan State game Michigan Michigan stake. I haven't

805
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: watched that one. Check that one out because he only

806
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: had like three tackles. He did have a sack in

807
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: the game, but they ran a ball a bunch. That

808
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: was the day that the running back for State had

809
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: five touchdown Mike Mike going considered with him. I've watched

810
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: very little, no tape, just like watching him live so

811
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: in highlights, So I'm the wrong person, Like I don't

812
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: even know who I picked right now. I've watched I

813
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: haven't watched one college tape, but watching him on TV,

814
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: he looks really lean, like he looked very strong big,

815
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: but he's but he is strong though. That's the thing.

816
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: He's lean and strong because he can bull rush guys,

817
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: two big guys he can bull rush him. He's strong.

818
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. I'm I'm the same way

819
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: when I watch him on TV. I'm like, Okay, he's lean.

820
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: He needs to put on about twenty pounds, but when

821
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: you watch him, he plays strong. He's a strong kid, Tony.

822
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: Why do you sour on the Gorgon kid, Pete? I haven't.

823
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: I haven't soured on him. I just this kid plays

824
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: tough and hard every lay and he you know what

825
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: I love when a guy chases down run plays from

826
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: the backside. You know that tells you that he cares.

827
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: I mean he I mean, I'm talking across the way.

828
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: He chases him down. And I don't think the Oregon

829
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: kid does that, Pete, Where do you rank the receiver's

830
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: coming out? M the kid? The kids here to see

831
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: the Knights the best receiver by watching a little bit

832
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: of Ohio State. But I've I've watched the number of

833
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: help Pamma games. The kid could just fly. What does

834
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: he run? What's he gonna run? Like? Four three? I

835
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: don't think he's that. I don't think he's the burner.

836
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: He's game fast. He's game fast because he can catch

837
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: it and all of a sudden he can outrun everybody

838
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: Like whoa yeah, like the kid, the other kid, that's

839
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: the other top receiver, the other Wilson from Ohio State.

840
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: He's not a burner on the on the clock either,

841
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: but they play fast. Yeah, he's the one that that's

842
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: the one I would day because he's the guy. Every

843
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: time he touches the ball you have to hold your breath.

844
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: But you're not. You're not taking him number one overall. No,

845
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: I take I take either Hutchinsond, Thibodeau or Neil. That's

846
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: my pick. If if I'm stuck at one, Neil the left.

847
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: But I think Little's play the last two weeks gives

848
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: me some options now, not being forced to take in

849
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: a Neil. There you have it, Um, So we'll come

850
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: back second hour of Jaguars Happy all right around the corner.

851
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: We'll recap the game again yesterday. We'll keep it real.

852
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: We haven't done that yet, Yes we have. We'll do

853
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: it again for real. Coming up. Your social questions will

854
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: go around the league as well. Jaguars Happy Hour presented

855
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. I

856
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I have to look back and really think

857
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: about the biggest thing I've learned. I think you're for me, um,

858
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: learning how to really be resilient and tough times and

859
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: to keep being the same person and to try to

860
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: keep that confidence weekend or week out. You know, it's

861
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: a seven team game season, and just because you have

862
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: a bad first game or a bad seventh game, you

863
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: still have so many games left and you gotta you

864
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: gotta come ready to play each week and regardless of

865
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, we obviously we didn't win a lot of

866
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: games this year, but there's so many games we could

867
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: have winn and we could have won, and we have

868
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: enough talent, and every team has enough talent, and it's

869
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: really about execution. It's about being ready, everybody on the

870
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: same page. And I think that's the biggest thing I've

871
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: learned is college it's it's it's more about talent. Obviously,

872
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: towards the end of the season, you look at the

873
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: National Championship playoffs, all those talent is kind of equated.

874
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: But here every game is pretty even. You know, any

875
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: any team can win any given Sunday. And knowing that,

876
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: I think that's something valuable that I've learned. Trevor Lawrence

877
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday and welcome back. It's the second

878
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday after the

879
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: regular season. J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Frisco. The

880
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars snapped an eight game losing skid yesterday eleven. The

881
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: final score they scored on the opening drive hit a

882
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: bunch of field goals moved the ball certainly in the

883
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: first half. The Jags defense got going in the second

884
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: half with a couple of takeaways, a fumble off Carson Wentz,

885
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: an interception off Wins as well. We mentioned Lawrence he

886
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: had one of the best days of his rookie campaign

887
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: on the final day of his rookie season. The Jaguars

888
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: secured the number one overall pick even though they won

889
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: Detroit one over the Packers, So the Jags are picking

890
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: number one overall for the second year in a row.

891
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: Coaching interviews continue. All the reports of more interviews coming

892
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: up this week, and we've arrived at the off season. Tony,

893
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: you look very excited about excited. You're never excited when

894
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: you go, you know, three and fourteen and have the

895
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: season we did. Um much might be much more excited

896
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: about if we were playing in the If we're in

897
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs right now, that I'm excited. I gotta go

898
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: do playoff games. I'll be uh doing Dallas San Francisco

899
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: this weekend. That would be fun. Um um it was

900
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: spirodidas right, Yep, I'm not so. I'm not excited about

901
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: like how this season went and that it's the off season.

902
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: That's I'm very interested and where this goes though interesting

903
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: the next head coaches. I'm interested to see what Shaw

904
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: decides to do. I'm interested to see how this organization

905
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: evolves on the football side. Interesting thing. Are we gonna

906
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: do something different or we're gonna do the same old,

907
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: same old. I'm interested, curious. I'm tired of losing. I'm

908
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: tired of of having these conversations every year. It feels

909
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: like outside of one in the last decade plus, because

910
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: for even before Shot became owner, it was similar. It's

911
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: in your point earlier. Everybody wants an answer now like today. Yeah,

912
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: it's not you're not gonna get it. That's not gonna work,

913
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: that's not gonna that's not how it's gonna happen. It's

914
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. You gotta be patient. Tony was right, you

915
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: gotta be patient. Get the right guy, not the first guy.

916
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: It's the right guy. Hey, real quick, did you you

917
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: guys watched the game last night for Pete maybe the

918
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: best and you always do this in like the moment,

919
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: but it was one of the best football games I've seen. Outstanding.

920
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: It was outstanding. But the way that kid threw the

921
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: ball around, that's what Trevor Lawrence should look like next

922
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: year when need be to sling it around too fast,

923
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: good receivers in the passing game he asked to he

924
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: should be able to do what Herbert does. There's a

925
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: lot of similarities between it to him. Long, big athletic

926
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: can really rip it. He should be doing what Justin

927
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: Herbert did last night. Now, you don't want to throw

928
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: the ball sixty times a game, but I'm saying in

929
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: situations where you have to zing it around, he should

930
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: be capable of doing what Herbert did last night. That's

931
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: what he has to get to next year. And not

932
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: just on him, it's building around them. Yeah. I mean

933
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: he has some weapons and rehivers pretty good UM good

934
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: back really good back in UM as long as we

935
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: don't get the head coach who goes for it and

936
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: forth in a long one. Ah. Just pet he promised

937
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: me that. I mean, what that hell was he and

938
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: you know these analytics, Ki, you know what it is.

939
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna sound like an old fart here because

940
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: I am. But they grew up playing mad with their buddies.

941
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys that the fans out there

942
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: in the Twitter cult, so when he goes for it,

943
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: it reminds of them when they were facing their friend

944
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: and mad and football. What are you doing? Momentum matters

945
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL? It really does? You know? You played Tony?

946
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: There's a flow with a field to a game. What

947
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: are you doing giving him a point? But you gave

948
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: three points? And it could have been if here's the

949
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: other thing, if the Raiders hadn't screwed up on the

950
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: first play after they got that free free field position

951
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: they ran, they with Mario and what the hell are

952
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: you doing? But you think he was? It was next

953
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: time we see only We'll give him crap about that

954
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: one too. Do you think Brandon Stanley would like those

955
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: three points back that he just gave the Raiders? Yeah,

956
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: he'd be in the playoffs right now. Unbelievable. I mean,

957
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't. There's there's something to be

958
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: said for being more aggressive maybe than what they used

959
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: to be. I get it, I understand it, and analytics

960
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: helped you understand that, but don't be stupid with it.

961
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: Game flow. And I thought Dean Pas last week you

962
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: saw demps when he said he went viral for some

963
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: of the things he said, and he got crucified for it.

964
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: He was right, by the way, he was right right

965
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: everything that game last night. The whole thing was fascinating.

966
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: The tie on the line, like the time out the Chargers,

967
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: you know, converting six fourth downs, like fourth and twenty one.

968
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: I called one, then he had the third and draw.

969
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: You know, I actually like the time out that Brandon

970
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: Stanley called. Everyone's killing him. They were gonna run the

971
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: same play, by the way, I don't know they were,

972
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: because they had different they had different personnel in the game. No,

973
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: But the my point is, Pete, the Raiders were getting

974
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: up to run the ball, and if they got yardage

975
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: and they got a first down, they would have tried

976
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: to get the field goal. If they didn't, they would

977
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: hope to let the clock run out. And that's why

978
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: they ran the clock below forty seconds, so that they

979
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: had the optionality if they didn't get it, they could

980
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: run it all the way down or force like that

981
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: word today. By the way, optionality, like the option optionality baby,

982
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 1: Optionality is a good thing to have in life. Beat

983
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: you gotta have options, you mean options? Option at a

984
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: real word. That's a real word. Optionality is the world.

985
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up, says, you know, I don't know.

986
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust this on the internet.

987
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: It must be true. Uh, the quality of being available

988
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: to be chosen, but not obligatory. Thank you. Optionality. It's

989
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: a real words on the internet. Though, maybe you should

990
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: go back to journalism school because I just schooled you

991
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: the potential for options, optionality, optionality. Come on, I don't

992
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: think I've ever heard that. Well, you should listen more.

993
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: But anyways, back to back to the time out. They

994
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: were going to run the ball and if they didn't

995
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: get anything, you're right. But he called time out because

996
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: he wanted his substitute, his big package in and then

997
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: he didn't. But you know he did, he put no

998
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: he You know what he did, Tony he because I

999
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: went back and watched it. He put an extra defensive

1000
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: lineman on the field, but instead of having two linebackers,

1001
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: he still had his nickel package on the field, so

1002
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: he had a dime safety playing linebacker and that guy

1003
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: made a terrible play because he went the wrong way.

1004
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: You know who had a terrible play. The reason that

1005
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: run was successful. Bosa got blocked by the tight end.

1006
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Han't got him. He came in motion down the line

1007
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: blocked him and he cracked in between him. But I

1008
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: still wouldn't let him play it out. Play it out,

1009
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: give me a break. He called time out, but it

1010
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: was almost like they let him regroup in that situation,

1011
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: brought the blocking tight end onto the field. They weren't

1012
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: gonna Did you think they were ever considering throwing in

1013
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: that situation? No, No, I agreed that. My point I

1014
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: was going back to the fact that everyone on the

1015
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 1: internet last night was saying that the that the Raiders

1016
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: are just gonna take a knee right there on third down,

1017
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: they were gonna take a knee. They were gonna run

1018
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: the ball again. But they if it was going to

1019
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: be a tie, if they but if they run the

1020
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: ball and they get ten yards like they did on

1021
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: the after the time out, they do the exact same

1022
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: thing and kicked the field ball. But they didn't have

1023
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: the run grouping in the Raiders. They didn't have the

1024
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: tight end that was the blocking tight end on the

1025
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: field in that situation, and that's the difference. Okay, I'm

1026
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: not arguing that. My point is everyone on Twitter freaking

1027
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: out thinking they were gonna take a knee. There is

1028
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: not the case. They were not taking a knee. But

1029
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: by the way, Pete's being very nice today about the

1030
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: Charger's head coach. Last night on Twitter, it was like, hey, people,

1031
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 1: just like his answers, like what is going on here?

1032
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I called him a moron because it was a more

1033
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: on decision. It's a more on decision to go for

1034
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: it in your own end was on the eighteen yard line.

1035
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: That's a more on decision. I mean. And then what

1036
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: do you I mean, how could you possibly think that's

1037
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: a good decision. Now, the game got loose, So in

1038
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: a loose game like in the third the fourth quarter,

1039
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: maybe and do that, But at that moment, the game

1040
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: wasn't loose at all. They had the momentum. What was

1041
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: the score at that point, seventeen? What was it? Fourteen? Ten? Right? No,

1042
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: when they were down it was seven. Okay, the game

1043
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 1: is not loose. You gotta play that game. You gotta

1044
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: conventionally pump the damn ball. Carlson at the thirty one yard,

1045
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: and it was my original point about the quarterback. Trevor

1046
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: Lawrence should be that next year. So the question becomes,

1047
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: how do you get him to that? The Chargers, Tony

1048
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: made a good point. Echoes a damn good back. The

1049
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: left side in the center of their line is good.

1050
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: The right side is awful. And they have injuries there,

1051
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: but they're awful right now? Do they have a tight

1052
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: end that scares you? Cook's okay, No, he's a big

1053
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: he's a big he's a big body. Pete. That's a

1054
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: matchup issue. And you saw that in Keith third downs

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00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: and fourth downs yesterday. But he's getting but he's getting

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00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: up in the years. And okay. The wide receivers Keenan

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00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: Allen's really good. Mike Williams. Mike Williams is unrestricted free agent.

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00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: Would you pay him? How much you gotta pay him? Oh,

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00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid. You're gonna get him Galladay money.

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00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: Probably what all they get thirteen a year? Yeah, I

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00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: pay him that probably you could come to He doesn't

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00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: run as well as you think he runs. No, but

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00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: he's a dang good receiver. Well you're Jacksonville, you would

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00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: you would, you would pay I would, I would kick

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00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: the tires for sure. Pete. You have to get receivers here,

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00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: I know. Okay, so you pay Mike Williams and draft,

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00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: you get one in the draft and it's a good

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00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: receiver draft by the way. Yeah, I mean because if

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: you look at um like like everyone talks about, you

1070
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: need that burner. Who's the burners on the Los Angeles Chargers?

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00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen doesn't run. No, Mike Williams isn't a burner. No,

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: they don't have a burner. Guid is a burner, bid

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: receiver Jacksonville. He couldn't. He couldn't remember the place that

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00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: that's their burner. H Yeah, Palmer is not a burner.

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00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: They're all but they're all big guys and good route runs. Right. Hey,

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00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: we'll come back in a moment. We're gonna keep it real.

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00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,479
Speaker 1: Have we not been doing that? No, okay, we're gonna

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00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: do it. We can't believe I got my case this

1079
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: week in the mail. You did I got to Yeah

1080
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't get yours yet? I got two cases.

1081
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: Fucking I got left up. Yeah, I must got JPS.

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00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: You must have. He's looking around like, wait a minute,

1083
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: I gotta read I got a red and a white. Wow,

1084
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: what a deal. JP's like they left me out. I

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00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: got an empty glass is all I got. Jaguars Game

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Speaker 1: Do Good, Bank Better. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the

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00:59:50,800 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: ten ten x our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I

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01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: just feel like as a now hobby, right if a

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01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: training camp by bridge it though, and the next master

1092
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: for me is to give that doing weightlifting, Olympic weightlifting,

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: by squash and stuff like that, having with it in

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01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: the supplying because it is a list foring injury and

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: then it's gonna bottom with a foot. So the next

1096
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: step is getting back to doing those squash, get in

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Speaker 1: my lags back right and uh get back to the

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01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: fool speed running and hopefully uh I look forward to

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Speaker 1: being a training camp and just being back to myself.

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Speaker 1: That is Travis E. T N speaking with the media today,

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01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: first time we've heard from him since the preseason, and

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Speaker 1: welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick with

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01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe and Tony Boselli and it's time now for

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Speaker 1: keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi opened

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Speaker 1: up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning Wine by

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Speaker 1: Robert Mundavi. Bob, I'm waiting. I like to thank Bob.

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Speaker 1: Here's the question today. Yeah, I'm sure you guys are

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01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: enjoying it. What's the best thing to come out of

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01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: this season for the Jaguars? It's over the first round,

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, quarterbacks, healthy quarterbacks, health that I

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01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: could argue that Urban Meyer's gone. That's the best thing.

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01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean because it was it was chaotic here,

1113
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: but it was dysfunctional. Could you imagine could you imagine

1114
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: what what this team went through and the organization went

1115
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: through going into another year knowing that that's what you're facing. No,

1116
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: you're right, that's the best thing. That's the best thing

1117
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: so to come out of this year. You found out

1118
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: what he was early. Yeah, you gotta realized it. He could,

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: like you know, it was like a term sometimes in

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01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: like in startup world of business, like fail fast, like

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: figure out what doesn't work so you can make the

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: correction instead of investing a bunch of capital that you

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01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: have limited resources of, I mean limited amount of and

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: fail fast like move on to the next thing, figure

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Speaker 1: it out, um. And I'm thankful that we figured it

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01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: out quickly who he really was, and that he was

1127
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of a it's fraud to pick up

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01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: a word to use, because he looked a lot about accountable.

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01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: He talked a lot about of accountability and family and

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01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: and owning it. And I didn't see any of that

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01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: from him. Um, we found out early. And I'm thankful

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01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: that Shod who who took a big swing in the

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01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: last offseason and and made a big statement and made

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01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: statements how he felt like he got it right this

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: time and now everything else. And I'm thankful that shot

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01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: Khan is not too proud to not to be able

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01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: to admit a mistake and say, you know what, I'm

1138
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: not dealing with this anymore. I mean, that's good leadership,

1139
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: and I know that you can get on and from

1140
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: be getting it wrong, that's fine. Worse than getting it

1141
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: wrong is not admitting that it was wrong and hang on.

1142
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: And we've seen that in this organization in the past,

1143
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: not from Shod but from others. I'll leave nameless of

1144
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: hanging on to decisions that end up costing this organization

1145
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: in the long run. But here so the fact that

1146
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: he made that decision so quickly, Pete, I think is

1147
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: really important. And if urban didn't go to Jacksonville last year,

1148
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: let's just say he didn't and he decided this year,

1149
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm in play. I wanted an NFL team to hire me.

1150
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: They'd be fighting for him, the teams if he if

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: he had not experienced Jacksonville and he came out of retirement,

1152
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of teams fighting for him. Oh yeah, yeah,

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he. I don't think Sean would would

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: be alone, is your point? No, of course not, because

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01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: he fooled a bunch of people. Eat fooled people. Well,

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01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he can fool anyone any longer because

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01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious. You know what his uh

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01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: M O was. Yeah, right, when you recruit the best players,

1159
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna win a lot of games at college football.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that. Well, he's a great recruiter, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I don't know how, Seriously, I

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01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: do not know how if he came If I was

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old kid and that guy came into

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01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: my living room, I would smell out the bs from

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Speaker 1: from the minute he walked in the door. Beat beat,

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01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: you are so full of it. You would be going

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01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: to Ohio state like that? What are you talking about?

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01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: The only way I'd be going to Ohio days they

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01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: paid me more than what Alabama pay Wow, but well

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Speaker 1: beating then you'd be one of the few because he's

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01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: he has sold a lot of people over his lifetime. Okay, Tony,

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: you were recruited, would you listen to his crap? I

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01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: think as an eighteen year old kid, And actually I

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01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: was seventeen when I was getting recruited. I mean when

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01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: I signed my letter in ten, I was seventeen years old.

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: And if urban Meyer came to me and selling me

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Speaker 1: like in his smooth talking and family and this and

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Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do tompionship rings in like

1179
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,479
Speaker 1: championship rings, yeah, Pete, I would have fallen for it.

1180
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: To USC, I did not. I was not a big recruit.

1181
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: I got paid. I could honestly say for Colorado USC

1182
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: where I can honestly say, I could honestly say, giving

1183
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: you know my word. I did not get any money

1184
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: from the University of Southern California or anyone associated with

1185
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: the University of Southern California, any booster, coach, anything else

1186
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: to go to the us UH to USC. Never got

1187
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: anything from them to go to that school. That means

1188
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: that means you short change yourself. Then everybody I wasn't.

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big recruit. I was like, I was

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01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: like the middle of the road guy fighting for a spot.

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01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: Where were you other options? By the way, So I

1192
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: got I got asked to walk on by a couple

1193
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: of places. Um my five trips you know back then,

1194
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's the same thing. You can

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01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: pick five schools you took official visits to. It was

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Speaker 1: you s c UH University of Colorado because I lived

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Speaker 1: in Boulder. They were good national championship champions. Arizona State

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: was a trip pizza alma mater. No, I got nothing

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Speaker 1: from them. I ended up canceling the visit though, Pete,

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: because it was right after USC and I went on

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01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: campus at USC and I'm like, I'm not going to

1202
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: a state. There's no chance. Um, so you didn't even go. No,

1203
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: I never showed up. Um Michigan State really yeah, he's LNS. Yeah,

1204
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: you remember that. My senior year was the year that

1205
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: Tony Manager came out, so it was like offensive line,

1206
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: big deal. And then Stanford was my last one. You

1207
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: would got into Stanford and he didn't get the grades

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Speaker 1: to go to. Yeah, I was gonna say, you know

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: who recruited me out of Stanford? Pete Bill Wallace? No, uh,

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01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: Denny Green was dead coach at the time. No, but

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: you know who what what position coach actually recruited me?

1212
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: Came to my house home, visit and met with my

1213
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: parents everything. Oh, Brian Billick, he was the wide receiver

1214
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: coach Denny Green's staff. Wow. So then you took the

1215
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: money in with the USC. I never got paid anything,

1216
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: and trust me, none of them were paying me anything.

1217
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: But when when you had recruiting visits, did no? So

1218
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: no head coach ever came to your house. Bill McCartney did, well,

1219
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: I was down the block. I'm trying to think. I

1220
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: think Denny Green would have. I believe Larry Smith did.

1221
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: He was the USC coach. Uh Perlist did not from

1222
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: Michigan State. I think he would have. I I um,

1223
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: so I took visits to my first visit in December,

1224
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: like early December when you start visits was Michigan State.

1225
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: The next visit was to UM, Colorado, and then before Christmas,

1226
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: I went to UH. Early in December, I went right

1227
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: to USC and so like the home visit started like

1228
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: in like that fall and so like, it didn't end

1229
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: until February. And I committed before I ever went on

1230
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: a visit to Stanford O or Arizona State UM, I

1231
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: committed on my trip to USC. I walked in that

1232
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: place and I just I'm literally I showed up. It

1233
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: took me on campus. I walked into Heritage Hall, saw

1234
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: the Heisman trophy, saw the history, went and met with

1235
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: the head coach, Larry Smith, and he says, hey, I

1236
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: went offer you a scholarship, and I said, coach, I'll

1237
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: take it. So so his so he didn't need to

1238
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: sell you on anything. So you didn't go there for

1239
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: Larry Smith, you went there for USC. I went there

1240
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: for USC, right, So that's what I'm saying. When Urban

1241
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: was first starting out like a Florida, they weren't. I mean,

1242
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: they had the spurior years. But that's I just I

1243
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: don't know, Maybe I'm cynical, but where one family where no,

1244
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: you're not. You're gonna use and abuse me just like

1245
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: you use it of you as every other kid that

1246
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: comes through here for your benefit. I know what it is.

1247
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: I know the game. Just tell me I was gonna

1248
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: play for national championships? Were I gonna be given a

1249
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: chance to be as a starter and a contributor on

1250
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: a regular basis? And can you get me to the league.

1251
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: That's all I want to know. Yeah, So, Pete, when

1252
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: I was at age, I was like, I wasn't a

1253
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: huge recruit and I you know, back they remember not

1254
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: very many teams were on TV either college footballs and

1255
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: so like USC, like rose Ball and like like seeing them.

1256
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: I just I remember like it was like them in

1257
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I was at all and Notre Dame said

1258
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: they didn't want me. Like those two schools are like

1259
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: the two schools. I was like, oh my gosh, I

1260
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: get it because like when I first went my first

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01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: year at a s U, they played USC and I

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: remember standing. I was eight seven years old. I remember

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01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: wanting to come out of the tunnel. I'm like, oh

1264
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: my god, that's USC. So that the Trojans and like

1265
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: Michigan State was a great visit. I loved it. That

1266
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: was my I loved East Lansing and I loved that place.

1267
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: But if I went to see when that When Larry

1268
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: Smith looked at me and says, we're offering you a scholarship,

1269
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm in. I went home to the hotel.

1270
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: I went back to the hotel that night and I

1271
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: called my dad and I said, Dad, I committed to USC.

1272
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: He says, you did what You're supposed to go to

1273
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: Stanford next week. I go, Dad, I'm not going to Stanford.

1274
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to US. Then you whispered in the phone.

1275
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, you should see the envelope they see.

1276
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: That's not true, period, not true to your point about Urban.

1277
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: I didn't buy his stuff. I'm forty nine years old now,

1278
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: and I've been around the block. You've been around the block.

1279
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: You've seen too much. That's why you never bought it

1280
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: this time. But I was I was a seventeen year

1281
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: old cynic. I didn't care. I didn't believe anybody's crap,

1282
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: never have except for your own right. Like I said,

1283
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: in the world, Hey, the people in the world are beeps,

1284
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: and the other one percent have to prove they're not.

1285
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: I mean us. At least Tony, you know, contributed a

1286
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: Freedom Bowl trophy and a cotton Bowl trophy to that

1287
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: trophy Roman at Southern Cow yea. You know, teams were

1288
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: very good. My senior year we were good. We blew it.

1289
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: Rob Johnson got hurt. We lost the Oregon He remember

1290
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: Pete he played half of the Cotton Bowl and they

1291
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: put him in the Cotton Bowl hold he played one half.

1292
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: We were by the end of the By the end

1293
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: of the season, we were the best. I mean we

1294
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: had a young team besides, I mean Keishan Show had

1295
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: just shown up j C transfer. By the end of

1296
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,919
Speaker 1: the year, no one wanted. I mean we beat Texas

1297
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: Tech in the Cotton Ball to ten. I mean we

1298
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: were rolling. But yes, fourteen yeah sorry. Um. The biggest were,

1299
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: like my biggest regret, not regret, disappointment in college football,

1300
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: and one of them in football overall is we had

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01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: first and goal from the three yard line, maybe maybe

1302
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: the four against U c l A my junior year.

1303
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: If we score a touchdown, we go to the Rose

1304
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: Bowl and we got stuffed and through a pick, got

1305
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: stuffed on first down, stuffed on second down, through a

1306
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: pick on third down, and lost the game. Who would

1307
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: you have played in the Rose Bowl? Wisconsin? Oh, the Badgers?

1308
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: What year was that nineteen three? Was that was that

1309
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Ron Dane? No, that might have been a Darryl Bubble game.

1310
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: May it might have been Daryl Bebble. You know who

1311
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: was on that ninety three team that we would have played.

1312
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: What was the defensive linemen we drafted at the sixth

1313
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: round out of Wisconsin that year. Mike Thompson. Mike Thompson,

1314
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: he was on that Wisconsin team one and one Wisconsin

1315
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: was And yeah, they beat U. C. L A in

1316
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Who were the backs on that team? Yeah,

1317
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: Darryl bebl was the quarterback then team? How about that? Yeah?

1318
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: First in goal? Why why did they run behind you?

1319
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: We ran twice and then we got stuffed. Did you

1320
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: get blown up? No? I mean I didn't, but I

1321
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: didn't dominate. I was. It was my second game back

1322
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: after this locating my knee cap. I missed five games

1323
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: that year, and I mean I I think I stalemated

1324
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean I didn't dominate him by any

1325
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: means um, but we got stuff that by the way,

1326
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 1: it was Keeping it Real Presented by Woodbridge by Robert

1327
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: Bundavi opened up a winner today really ingred against award

1328
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: winning wine by Robert Mundavi. I hope you guys are

1329
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: enjoying it. What's in that cup? Tony? I can't. I

1330
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: don't want to speak to that. Were on the air, Okay,

1331
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: marinate on that. We're back in a moment. Social media questions,

1332
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Tony, thank you. YouTube's Jaguar's Happy Hour

1333
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:09,520
Speaker 1: on the jag Wars Digital Network. Welcome Back. Its Jaguar's

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01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselly the

1335
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: final show of the season. Pete, I know you're doing. Uh,

1336
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: you're doing playoff games. You're in studio. What are you doing? Thankfully?

1337
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: You know for me to go to playoff games and

1338
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: there's not really any access like it used to be.

1339
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: It's it's almost defeats the purpose. That's a good point, Tony.

1340
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: You're you're doing the first round for sure. We knew that.

1341
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing all through. I'm doing Uh. I'm in um

1342
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: Dallas for the wild Supercard wild It's the super wild

1343
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: Card weekend. You might want to get that right, wild

1344
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: Card Wild week. It's gonna get wild bat. You might

1345
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 1: be heading somewhere else. Plenty of places in Dallas to

1346
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: celebrate that. I think it's super a wild card Sorry

1347
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: sorry super wild card weekend? Um, and then division Oh,

1348
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm hoping I've requested, but I won't know until after

1349
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: the games this weekend. I'm hoping to go to Nashville

1350
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: because it's easy close. And then it looks like I

1351
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: will most likely be in the n f C city

1352
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: for the UH Conference championships, which will probably be Green Back. Okayez,

1353
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: I might go out in the championship game. It depends

1354
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: on what the restrictions are. Well, if you do come

1355
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, pete with me. We'll hang out. I've

1356
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,879
Speaker 1: been there. I was there when Coughlin beat the Packers

1357
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: in the freezing cold game. It was the cold Goldens

1358
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: I've ever been in my life. Come out. You should

1359
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: come and we'll go get a big stake tonight before

1360
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: tell us, we'll tell lies are you? Are you going

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01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? Um? I'm not working in the

1362
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year, so I will only be at

1363
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl if the Hall of Fame comes calling.

1364
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna vote on that before the Super Bowl. That's

1365
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: why I just said I only go if that, let's

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: watch it on television. I'll be watching it at home. Yeah,

1367
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 1: I don't wanna my my days as a sideline reporter

1368
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: are over. So I retired from sideline. Why you don't

1369
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: like doing it? I don't enjoy it. They like what

1370
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: you like. I just don't enjoy it. It's like, but

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01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: it's a long day. My back hurts. I'm like, I

1372
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: just don't enjoy it. And I told him this year,

1373
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do it, So I'm

1374
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: not fair enough. Well, I mean, at some point you

1375
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: gotta get in life and do what you enjoy doing.

1376
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: And that's not something you want to you'd like being

1377
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: in the booth. I like the booth and the championship game.

1378
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in the booth for one of the

1379
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: championship games? Yeah, I have the last the five years,

1380
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: four years, whoever it is, six years, whatever it is? Um,

1381
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: who who do you worked at last weekend with either

1382
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: Iron or Kevin Harlan, depends where they put them. Yeah,

1383
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: Kurt will be in one booth. I'll be in the

1384
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: other booth, and Kurt will do the super Bowl. Kurt Warner.

1385
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. Um, seeing that he played in several I

1386
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: never did, so probably we'll never call a Super Bowl

1387
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: game from booth because I never played in one. Well,

1388
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: there you have it, and you wouldn't have played in

1389
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: one have had they made it ninety nine either? I

1390
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: would so oh you know a funny story about that?

1391
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: Uh pea. Um My my son had COVID. One of

1392
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: my kids had COVID, and so he's quarantined. So he

1393
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: went back and started watching old jaguarging. He's he My

1394
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: boys are the biggest Jaguar fans, both Andrew and Adam,

1395
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: my two boys, I mean love, live and die Jaguars.

1396
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: And my second son, Adam went back and watched old

1397
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: playoff games from the ninety six and old games and

1398
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: he'd be like calling me. I'm like, dude, I might

1399
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: go away. He's like, Dad, I was watching, like describing

1400
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: play son. I was there, and remember Pete. He went

1401
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: through the AMC Championship game in ninety six and he

1402
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: was like distraught that we lost the game. He was,

1403
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe you lost a stupid special teams play

1404
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: blah blah, and it was I just made me laugh,

1405
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: brought back sad because we didn't make it. See you,

1406
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: I can still see you try to chase down after

1407
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: the bumble, and I can still see it like it's yesterday. Yeah,

1408
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: And Brunell's interception was terrible because Jimmy ran the wrong route.

1409
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: I told on Jimmy, I told on you it was

1410
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: He tried to tell me it wasn't him, it was him. Well,

1411
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: you know what, it's all spilt milk and you can't

1412
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: do anything about it. Now, what's gotta move on. That's right,

1413
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: We're moving on to social media questions we've got. We

1414
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: put out the bad signal, of course, earlier on Monday.

1415
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: Here's the best we come up with for the final

1416
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: show number one today at g MAC five six seven.

1417
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: After seeing Walker little improved over the last two weeks,

1418
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: is it enough for you to make him the starting

1419
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: left tackle next year? Or would you still bring Cam

1420
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: Robinson back this offseason? Um noted left tackle? Would you

1421
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 1: like to answer this question? Um? I did? I answered

1422
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: it earlier. I I to be determined. I gotta do

1423
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: more work. I mean it also depends, you know, what's

1424
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: the franchise number. What are you doing with the rest

1425
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: of um the offensive line? Where the holes you gotta

1426
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: make decisions with Linder and um Norwell, I mean, so

1427
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: there's a j can I mean, there's a lot of questions.

1428
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: Yet I don't think you make that in a vacuum,

1429
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: that decision, because you have five positions to fill um.

1430
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: Cam still is the best left tackle on this team

1431
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: right now as of this year. That doesn't mean Walk

1432
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: a little Cancer pass them. But if you're just looking,

1433
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: who had to, you know, look at all the tape

1434
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: for the entire year. Cam's better right now. But I

1435
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: don't know if Cam had a game as good as

1436
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: Walker Little hat on Sunday. I haven't watched it yet, Pete,

1437
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: because I was he got beat he got beat inside

1438
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: once by Buckner on a rug play, but he got

1439
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: he got he got bowled by uh quit quit pay

1440
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: one time. That's all yeah, yeah, yeah, so. But but again,

1441
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: you're right, Robinson in the big picture is a better

1442
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: left tackle right now. But why not have both of

1443
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: them back? You can figure out a way to play

1444
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: them both somewhere. I agree, That's what I'm saying my brain.

1445
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's one or the other. I mean,

1446
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: Walker Little's coming back for sure. That's a no brainer decision,

1447
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: is I agree with you, Pete. Why do you have

1448
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: to make a decision? By the way, I noticed him

1449
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: walking in with the with the quarterback after practice today.

1450
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: So like you, he's last onto the quarterback to keep

1451
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: his spot on the roster. It means he's smart. He's

1452
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: a smart man. Stay close. He went to Stanford. What

1453
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: do you want? Stay close to the franchise quarterback. And

1454
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: here's one thing, Pete, why couldn't you franchise Why couldn't

1455
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 1: you franchise Cam Robinson and trade him? You could, you could,

1456
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: depending on what else you do. You're right, you could

1457
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: just to protect yourself. Yeah, why would you let him

1458
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: walk out the door for freeze unless you're thinking you

1459
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: can get a cop pick back for him. Maybe you

1460
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: can get a second rounder if you franchise him. The

1461
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 1: last time the Jags had a compensation pick that hasn't happened.

1462
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: Usually that's how it works, all right. You still have

1463
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: a lot of money to spend JP, a whole lot,

1464
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 1: a whole lot. And if they make some of those

1465
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: moves like they make changes there, then that opens up

1466
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: even more money. I mean, Linda and Noral, those are

1467
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: the big ones to watch for not being back on offensive.

1468
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know what he thing. I'm

1469
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: just saying based on injuries, based on performance, based on

1470
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: a lot of contracts, contracts, no money spent. I mean

1471
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 1: those are I'd be looking there. Next question social media

1472
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: today at britt Jack in the momentum yesterday's win carrying

1473
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: the next season. I know the consensus is normally no,

1474
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: but that win felt huge yesterday. The momentum of the

1475
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: wind doesn't carry over. Gonna a whole new staff, you

1476
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: have a whole new team. This team will look remarkably

1477
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: different next year. In a lot of ways we can

1478
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: carry over is the confidence of the individual players and

1479
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: the performance they have. Because you have a good taste

1480
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: of your mouth, it gives you something to build on.

1481
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: You have good feelings moving forward, so I think that

1482
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: you can build on it. But building on as a

1483
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: team win too much turnover is gonna happen to this organization? Yeah,

1484
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it carries over. I just don't.

1485
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's for a guy like Trevor Lawrence. It

1486
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: probably says, oh, you know what, I know I could

1487
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: play this league. Now you know that. That gives me validation.

1488
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think it carries over the next year.

1489
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: Easy enough. Next question social media at Duvall Underscore buck

1490
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: Eyes victory Monday Boys. If you were to rank the

1491
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: open coaching positions, where would the Jags rank Pete? It

1492
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: would rank up there. I don't know where i'd rank it,

1493
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: but I think you've got an owner that's willing to spend,

1494
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: you have a lot of cap room. You have the

1495
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: first overall pick. I think we said this all last year.

1496
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: By the way, um it's it's it's in a state

1497
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: that has no staying income tax and you get a

1498
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: new facility and you're by the beach and the weather

1499
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: is good. So aside from that, what's wrong with it?

1500
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: And Minnesota weather staks Miami? You gotta you know, like

1501
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: jack there's the problem. Like Jacksonville, you inherited general manager

1502
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: because Chris Careers staying the Raider. I think the Raiders

1503
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: are gonna keep rich pisaccia um and the Broncos job.

1504
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 1: That's where's the quarterback of all those teams? The Bears

1505
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: have a quarterback, the Jaguars have a quarterback, and the

1506
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: Raiders have a quarterback. So that makes them and to up.

1507
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: If you think he's good, and there's questions, you're still

1508
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: out there. Do you think two is good? Do you

1509
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: think he's a franchise quarterback, Pete, I don't I leaned

1510
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: towards you. I haven't seen as much as you have.

1511
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: He got better, he got better, but nothing but nothing

1512
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: jumps off the pages like being dynamic. Tell me like

1513
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: one like, what is one thing he like, physical trait

1514
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: or quality that he has? It's just over the top

1515
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: and that's what worries me. I think the great ones do.

1516
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: Um the I think the question about where this job

1517
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: ranks is is how is how is the question mark

1518
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: of Trent Balky or right now he is? How does

1519
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 1: Trent Balky being the GM? Um? How's that play? Across

1520
01:24:54,760 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: the league? There's a lot of strong opinions about Trent ball.

1521
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: What was that, Pete? That doesn't play well? Right? And Pete?

1522
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: But don't you agree? I mean, there's a lot of

1523
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: strong opinions about tramp, about Trent Balky around the wing.

1524
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: At least that's what I hear. Pete, you're more even

1525
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: connected than I am. I mean, asked a lot of people.

1526
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people questioning him being

1527
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: in that job, still in that job? Yes, absolutely, so

1528
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: there you have it. Um, let's get let's get one

1529
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: more in Why not one more social why not at

1530
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: Lloyd are one L. Pete should be a GM, right,

1531
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: JP and Tony No, I like this guy. I like

1532
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: this guy. They didn't ask you, Pete. They asked J

1533
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:43,440
Speaker 1: P JP. What's your answer? Uh? They asked me, h Nana,

1534
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: that's two knows you lose. It's just football, It's not

1535
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: that complicated. Really. I will say this about Pete Priscoe

1536
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: in all series and Pete and I have known each

1537
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: other twenty seven years now. Yeah, and there is not

1538
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: a harder working I should maybe there's a harder working,

1539
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: but there's not a guy who studies the craft and

1540
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,879
Speaker 1: studies film and actually really looks at it and actually

1541
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: makes phone calls and picks up and ask people who

1542
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: know more than he does about film and what they're

1543
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: looking at to confirm whether he is right or wrong.

1544
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying Pete will ever be a GM,

1545
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: but could Pete be a part of his staff to

1546
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: help build a team. Yes, Pete knows football, he knows

1547
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: personnel and more than anything, he's a grinder that would

1548
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: work at it to study and uncover um the right

1549
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: type of people I mean, because he I mean, So

1550
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, you're right. About the GM part of it,

1551
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: because I don't want to deal with them, with with

1552
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 1: somebody's uh, you know, shoot contract or or you know,

1553
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: did you get the building painted? Or or you know

1554
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: who who's are we gonna get a new support staff.

1555
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with it, and I just

1556
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: want to deal with football players. That's all. I want

1557
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: to deal with, getting football players, acquiring football players, making decisions,

1558
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 1: grinding the tape watching players. No, he and he would.

1559
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: I mean this morning, we both happen to call the

1560
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: same head uh, same coach in the NFL and then

1561
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: at the same time. And my point is, I mean

1562
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Pete does his work, and Pete he texted me all

1563
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: the time. He sends film to me. He says, hey,

1564
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: is this right with am I looking? Am I seeing

1565
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: this right? About this offensive lineman? And I'll say, yeah,

1566
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: this is what you're looking at. And so I always

1567
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: you're changing your answer to yes. I don't think he

1568
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: could be a GM. I think he could be a

1569
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: part of it either because I don't want to be

1570
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: the GM. I don't think because the GM is more

1571
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: than just picking players, like be a pro personnel guy.

1572
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: I think he could be a part of his staff

1573
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: because he knows football. He has he has strong convictions

1574
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: and he would do the work to go figure it out.

1575
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: That's why I think, hey, um, let's come back. We

1576
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: gotta get around the league and we're up against it,

1577
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: against it and do a quick around the league. We

1578
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: had to say goodbye for the year. We gotta get

1579
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: proper goodbyes short around the league. If you could talking,

1580
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 1: we might be able to care. This is Jaguars Happy

1581
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, Jaguars Happy

1582
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: our final few minutes for the final show of season

1583
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: JP Shattered with Tony Boselli and Pete Frisco. We will

1584
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: change our look around the National Football League with a

1585
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: look ahead to the schedules on Super wild Card Weekend. Tony,

1586
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: you might want to learn the name of the weekend. Okay,

1587
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: super wild Card Weekend. It's not Supercard Wild Wild Weekend. No,

1588
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: it might be a wild weekend weekend. I got confused. Yeah,

1589
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: that's in the real off season. The let's start the

1590
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: a f C coming up. They have Saturday and Sunday

1591
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: schedule in the a f C. The Raiders and the

1592
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Bengals Saturday for Patriots Bills Saturday at eight fifteen, and

1593
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: then Sunday eight fifteen the Steelers and the Chiefs. Who

1594
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,879
Speaker 1: do you like in these think? Um? I like the Raiders.

1595
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I do like the Raiders. That's I think it's a

1596
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: really tough game. They've already played each other once. On paper,

1597
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: it looks like the Bengals should win this game because

1598
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: of the way Burrow and Chase and everyone else is playing.

1599
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are a young team, young coach,

1600
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I can see them. The Raiders haven't been there either, No,

1601
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: but I just like the Raiders are scrappy. Pete. You

1602
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: know what the Raiders remind me a little bit of

1603
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: is that our nineties six team, Like they had to

1604
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: win out to get in, Like they've been playing playoff

1605
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: games every week, and like they were everyone had them

1606
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: dead to rights at six and seven and the huh

1607
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: and they could rush the passer like I just like,

1608
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are the better team. I think

1609
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 1: they have the better receiving corps. I think they have

1610
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 1: a better quarterback. I think they you know, but I

1611
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: like the Raiders. Um, I'm going Patriots in the upset. Wow,

1612
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm not. And I'm going to Chief on the road,

1613
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm going Chiefs. At home, I'm going Bengals, Bill's Chiefs.

1614
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: Although I think the Raiders game is gonna be really close.

1615
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,799
Speaker 1: You're going all home games. You know that never happens,

1616
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: So that's okay. Let's go to the NFC schedule on

1617
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: Super wild Card weekend. The Eagles at the Buccaneers Sunday

1618
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: at one o'clock, the forty Niners at the Cowboys, Tony,

1619
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: you'll have that game Sunday at four thirty, and the

1620
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Rams Monday. I'm going Buccaneers. I think

1621
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 1: that's the worst game of the weekend. I think although

1622
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles can run the ball and they have some

1623
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: success in the second half when they played the Buccaneers

1624
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: earlier of the year, to make that game close, but

1625
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks win. I don't think the blowout.

1626
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 1: I think playoffs usually close to be close. I think

1627
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: it's forty Niners on the upset on the road, and

1628
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 1: I like the Rams at home. I don't. I think

1629
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: arizon is gonna beat him again. I think both those

1630
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: teams are kind of floundering. I think Arizona beats him again.

1631
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: I'll take by the way Tony. The Rams offensive line

1632
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: the other day was terrible against the terrible. I'll take

1633
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I'll take the Niners, and I'll take the box you

1634
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: have at the schedule for Super wild Card weekend in

1635
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs. This is our final show of the season. UM,

1636
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure doing it with you guys each week.

1637
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: What is this You're six? We've been doing a while now,

1638
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: I know that, um. I. First of all, UM, it's

1639
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: fun as always. I always missed the show. Love working

1640
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: with Pete as usual. Pete and I have been good

1641
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: friends for a long time and go back and forth

1642
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: and see a lot of things alike and a lot

1643
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: of things in a different view at the same time. UM.

1644
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: J P, good job this year putting up with our

1645
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 1: our stuff. I was about to say another word that

1646
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: I can't say on the air. Fair appreciate you A

1647
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 1: good job steering the ship and keeping it making sure

1648
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: we're on course. Joe, good job producing Reeves in the background.

1649
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: We have a good team here. This is a good

1650
01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 1: show and I love doing with you guys. I do too,

1651
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: And uh, I echo everything you just said, Tony. JP

1652
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: keeps up with us and puts up with our garbage,

1653
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: and uh. The other thing is we're allowed to say things.

1654
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say things. I love that. That's the

1655
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: greatest thing about this show. I wouldn't do it if

1656
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I give the Jaguars all the credit in

1657
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: the world because I can say what I need to

1658
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: say if that's what makes it fun. And one more thing,

1659
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: next time when we reconvene, somebody's head isn't gonna fit

1660
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: in that studio. I'm telling you, and I'm not talking

1661
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: about yours. JP with you, Oh, with you, hey, Pete,

1662
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: um from your from your mouth to God's ears, bat baby.

1663
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 1: And also we have thanks to Chad Johnson for the

1664
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: sport this year. I took over the radio and UH

1665
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: and leads to this organization and during a tough year,

1666
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: a lot of controversy, a lot of things. To Pete's point,

1667
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: his leadership, guidance and allow us to have fun on

1668
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: the show and do what we do. Appreciate it. Chad.

1669
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: Let's do the show again from Canton, Ohio. That'd be fun. Pete.

1670
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: I will that, I will host that. I will host

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Speaker 1: the show if that happens. No, you won't you, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna host the show. In the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Let you're gonna I'm not going to show,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna host all of get fired. No, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: to host every right job. You're fire. I'm gonna host

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Speaker 1: the show, playing everyone. Everyone will be together. Out of here.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to host the show. Pete Briscoe, that's

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Speaker 1: tell Sally. I'm J P. Shadrick. I'm fired. Apparently this

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Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.