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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back to Inside the Draft. That is late

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Speaker 2: March meeting. We're just a month away from the NFL

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Speaker 2: Draft and with the Colts in mind, they sit there

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Speaker 2: at fifteenth in the first round coming up there at

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Speaker 2: the end of April. I am Casey Valier, and this

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Speaker 2: week we dive inside the Draft with Garrett Padell of

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports to get a good idea of what the

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Speaker 2: draft looks like for the Colts sitting there at fifteen,

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Speaker 2: but also what the rest of the draft landscape will

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Speaker 2: look like as we continue to inch closer to the

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Speaker 2: first round of the NFL Draft coming up in late April. So,

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Speaker 2: without further ado, let's go ahead and get chatting with

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Speaker 2: Garrett Paddell, with myself and Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Matt, let's load it up again on Inside the Draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. Casey Valier joins me in studio and

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Speaker 1: we're getting to know these prospects right now with Garrett Podell,

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Speaker 1: NFL and NFL Draft insider for cbacbssports dot com. Garrett,

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Speaker 1: you've got your latest monk draft up. What's it looking

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Speaker 1: like as of right now? As it relates to the

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Speaker 1: Colts sitting there at fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Well, Matt, as it relates to the Colts, if the

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Speaker 3: Chargers don't go brock b Hoers at five, I feel

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Speaker 3: like he could slide into Indianapolis range. And I think

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Speaker 3: he would be a great fit for the Colts because yes,

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Speaker 3: they have Michael Pittman Junior, but they really don't have

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Speaker 3: another big body over the middle target I don't think

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Speaker 3: in my opinion. I mean, Alic Pearce is a big dude,

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Speaker 3: And so I feel like that would be a great

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Speaker 3: kind of twin towers up the middle attack that the

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Speaker 3: Colts could have with Bowers and Pittman if he slides

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Speaker 3: them at fifteen. So I think he at this point,

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Speaker 3: based on his positional value, he could be around when

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Speaker 3: the Colts on the clock.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that, you know, mocked throughout you know, the

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Speaker 2: entire months that we've been dealing with post combine and

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Speaker 2: everything like that. As brock Bauers, if he's there, would

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Speaker 2: be a perfect fit if he's not there, Let's say

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Speaker 2: realistically that you know, he goes earlier because he is

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Speaker 2: one of these talents that people say might be a

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Speaker 2: generational talent at tight end. Would it be more just

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Speaker 2: best player available with the Colts there, because it's so

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Speaker 2: offense heavy early that you can get some of these

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that best player available would be a

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Speaker 3: strong approach to the Colts because you know, with Anthony

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Speaker 3: Richardson coming off his shoulder injury and working his way back,

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Speaker 3: you're playing the long game here. And I think that

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Speaker 3: was one of the key takeaways from for me from

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Speaker 3: Chris Ballard's press conference at the Combine in Indianapolis where

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Speaker 3: y'all are, is that he's not going to rush Richardson

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Speaker 3: with Andrew Luck, not going to do that again. So

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Speaker 3: going back to your question, I absolutely think, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe they go defense there. I mean Quinnon Mitchell

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Speaker 3: He checked every box, heightweight, four three three forty. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he is somebody who is right there with Terry and

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Speaker 2: Now when you talk about the Alabama corner and Terry

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Speaker 3: I think he's a case of you watch the film

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Speaker 3: because when you watch him on tape, sometimes his closing

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Speaker 3: speed isn't quite there. Like he's really great. If he

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Speaker 3: So I feel like he's somebody where it's wait and see.

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Speaker 1: That's Scarrett Odell. He covers the NFL and NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: for cbscbssports dot Com. You talked about Michael Pittman junior

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Speaker 1: re signed. He'll be here for the foreseeable future with

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Speaker 1: the Colts paring him up with Jonathan Taylor and Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think that does, Garrett for the

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Speaker 3: I think it heightens it because I think if you

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Speaker 3: So I would agree. I think it's great too when

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Speaker 1: Garrett staying there, why is the wide receiver depth so

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Speaker 1: Because that's how it always That's how it always goes,

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Speaker 3: This draft, I think you make a great point, Matt,

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Speaker 3: just the way that football is going, the emphasis on passing,

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Speaker 3: So I think this is, to your point, a different

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Speaker 1: And at what point in the draft do we stop

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Speaker 3: I think that comes down to a couple of things. One,

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Speaker 3: I'd say rule of thumb, you know, maybe round six

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Speaker 1: But well, I mean we had Puk and Nakula, Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: Now, one of the things you always want to build

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Speaker 2: as you get you know, later rounds, how deep is

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Speaker 3: I think it's exceptionally deep. One of the cool things

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Speaker 3: Like for me. There's a sleeper out of South Dakota State,

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Speaker 1: Scarrett Podell with US at Garrett, at what point of

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Speaker 3: Okay, so team games, you know, as of right now,

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Speaker 3: Rashaun Slater at left tackle. Maybe they just throw him

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have this dominant offensive line for Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Garrett, you know you've seen all these different mock drafts

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Speaker 1: about edge rusher specifically. I'm gonna give you a couple

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Speaker 3: I think Turner is edge rusher number one. I think

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Speaker 3: But I think he's athletically just as good or maybe

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Speaker 3: like in that ten to fifteen to sixteen range. And

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Speaker 3: then the last two guys you're talking about, to Latsu

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Speaker 3: If Latsu didn't have the medical background with the major

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Speaker 3: feel like Lotsu would be well ahead of Chop Robinson

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Speaker 3: Lot two is like mid to late teens early twenties range,

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's say that the fifth or sixth best

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Speaker 1: well for Chris Ballard Garrett. How much how much hesitation

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Speaker 3: Well, let's see, So we're playing hypothetical, so hypothetically play

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Speaker 3: so let's say it's like Texas wide receiver Aden, I'm

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Speaker 3: Mitchell who stunned people at the combine in Indie. So

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Speaker 3: we got Mitchell versus you said, Jared Verse. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: this is Anthony richards team, forget this shoulder injury, we

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Speaker 3: think he's going to dominate and run this show right away.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you can go all in on that and you say,

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Speaker 3: give me Mitchell, give him a tall six foot one,

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Speaker 3: six foot two burner and letter Anthony Richardson rip. He's

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Speaker 2: Now, final thing for me, Garrett, I want to talk

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Speaker 2: But then you've got these guys that are fifth and

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Speaker 2: Could this be a year where maybe we see the

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great point, and I would definitely

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Speaker 3: agree with you for a couple of reasons. One, what

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Speaker 1: And you're getting those guys on rookie contracts too.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly, And so guys who have played as much

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Speaker 3: in terms of guys who are really seasoned college pastors gotcha.

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Speaker 3: So I definitely think that experience factor plus just knowing

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Speaker 1: Garrett, last one for me, which player at the combine

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Speaker 1: maybe on your radar now that you weren't as high

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Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to be a controversial answer,

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Speaker 3: but I think it has to be Texas wide receivers. Dave,

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Speaker 3: you're worthy. I mean, he set the forty yard dash

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Speaker 3: we're not going to draft you. Look at the way

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Speaker 3: He said, I could be used just like Tyreek Kill.

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Speaker 3: Look at me, I'm so fast. And if you're Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: let's let's get that guy going, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on that when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: draft coming up up in late April. Speaking of that,

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Speaker 1: Garrett Podell NFL NFL Draft Insider for CBS. What are

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Speaker 1: your work? Garrett?

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Speaker 3: Well, I have you're talking about mock draft as a

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Speaker 3: mock draft out every other Tuesday cbssports dot com. As

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Speaker 3: how each team did, how the new players are gonna fit,

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Speaker 3: and hope you know I'm on social media, Twitter, whatever

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Speaker 3: at at Gearrett put out in just my whole name all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Absolutely a lot to check out there, Garrettodell again NFL.

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft Insider for CBS does a tremendous job. Can't

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Speaker 1: thank you enough for your time today. Garrett continued success

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Speaker 1: harving the draft in the league, and I hope we

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you so much for having me. I would

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Speaker 3: love to talk it with you guys again soon