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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Greetings and welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Another beautiful NFL Sunday is upon us, and we'll see

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Speaker 2: if they can possibly match the chaos and conundrums and

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Speaker 2: heartaches and heartbreaks and well need for an acid that

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Speaker 2: we saw throughout the college football landscape yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Fox Football Sundawn.

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Speaker 2: Mike Carmen alongside me, my guy Greg Cosl forty six

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Speaker 2: years NFL films the NFL Matchup Show. You hear them

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Speaker 2: on the network on Thursdays one pm Eastern, along side

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Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd to break down fifteen minutes to twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: They usually try to stretch that and squeeze a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You better be getting paid by the minutet, Greg Cosal,

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Speaker 2: otherwise we'll have to tap some words over there.

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Speaker 1: How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I think you need to be in my agent, Mike.

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Speaker 3: That's what we need to do going forward.

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Speaker 1: I'll be happy to walk in.

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Speaker 2: I got to get one of those from myself, by

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Speaker 2: the way I ran it, So if you got recommendations,

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Speaker 2: let me know.

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Speaker 3: I do not actually never had one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gone down that path. I had a couple

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Speaker 2: of conversations and they're like, well, we're going to take

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Speaker 2: whatever percentage of what you're already making. When we re

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Speaker 2: up like, well that doesn't make any sense. Why should

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Speaker 2: I give you money?

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Speaker 1: That I heard.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you want to talk about the augment, you know,

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Speaker 2: a larger percentage of the extra money is.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But like we have at it now, we've had seventeen

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Speaker 2: football games in the National Football League since we last

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Speaker 2: spoke yesterday. College football just one turn and twist after

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Speaker 2: another in the plot towards the playoffs there, so certainly

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Speaker 2: upset in minded a lot of red ink next to

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Speaker 2: the heavyweights this week on the NFL slate. We feel better.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to that Thursday game. I took another

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Speaker 2: trip around the sun earlier in the week, celebrated a birthday.

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Speaker 2: So the following day when a couple of forty something

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Speaker 2: started winging the ball around effortlessless, effortlessless lee more so

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Speaker 2: than I can use the word.

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Speaker 1: Effort eff effortlessly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah on, hey, the coffee hasn't kicked in just yet.

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Speaker 2: That you know, I felt a little younger again. The

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Speaker 2: longer they played, the better I feel about things. But

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Speaker 2: this week, we're blessed with five games featuring teams with

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Speaker 2: winning records. That might be a high as we go

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Speaker 2: forward next week, a lot of teams on buy. We've

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Speaker 2: got Buffalo and Baltimore the only two teams taking the

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Speaker 2: week off in Baltimore in theory, back towards full strength

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Speaker 2: a week from now when the Bears travel to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: I'll be in attendance for that one to see the

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Speaker 2: chaos unfold in person. Greg, but pretty good slate pillar

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Speaker 2: to post the one thing that's out here and Brianna

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Speaker 2: and Mark and I were talking about before we came

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Speaker 2: on air. A lot of weather impacted games today, or

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Speaker 2: at least that's what the Doppler radar is telling me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess in Cleveland it's supposed to be pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: What are the other games that should be problematic?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're looking at old jolly old London.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Chicago. There's the chance of storms there,

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Speaker 2: tennessee some thunderstorms the Jets, perhaps some showers later on, just.

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Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of red and then yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've never been a big fan. It's just personal. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: some people love it. I'm not a big fan of

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Speaker 3: weather games because you know, I've always been a guy

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Speaker 3: that loves seeing the athletes be able to play at

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Speaker 3: their highest level of athleticism. And when it's a rain

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Speaker 3: of people love snow games, but they don't normally work

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might look good on TV, right, particularly snow games.

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Speaker 2: And when the dopes in the crowd start saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: that's all find and good. That game in Cleveland adds

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Speaker 3: He's not going to cut through a forty mile narrow win.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you just being you know, being smart Aleca.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but a guy who's not.

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Speaker 2: One that's pushing the ball down the field. I guess

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't play they don't play that way anyway.

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Speaker 1: They are playing Miami, which, yeah, alter Judkins and let

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and two is not a guy with a power

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of lefties which we don't get to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the last I wonder when the last

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Speaker 2: Pause anybody that faced off against Michael Vick at some point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna have to get our crack research

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Speaker 2: we look at the slight ahead. Some great games on

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Speaker 2: the board. We'll go through the mall, we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: some of the film, uh film work, and let's go

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Speaker 2: back to Thursday Night where on the winning side. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's Joe Flacco making things happen.

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Speaker 4: Shotgun snap Flaco floats went high into the air, left

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Speaker 2: Now this game drifted into the thirties when it was

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Speaker 2: all said and done. But we saw Joe Flacco's arm

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Speaker 2: strength on display. The fact that we've got a guy

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Speaker 2: many two thousand and eight draft class, the great blue

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Speaker 2: hen that he is. He's been working with these guys

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Speaker 2: for several days. They showed him on his commercial flight

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Speaker 2: targets for Jamar Chase Ye talking about making a heavy

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Speaker 2: work for your playmakers. But everybody got involved and suddenly

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Speaker 2: that Chase Brown running element became part of the game plan. Here, Greg,

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Speaker 2: is this enough to jumpstart them? And what is a

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Speaker 3: Well, the one thing about Flacco, I mean, there's two

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Speaker 3: things that always stand out about Flacco. And by the way, Mike,

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Speaker 3: he'll probably be able to throw the ball like that

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Speaker 3: doesn't It looks like it's, to use your favorite word,

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Speaker 3: it looks effortless, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: You hate me.

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Speaker 3: But the thing that really stands out about Flacco, and

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Speaker 3: it's really important for this team with their two really

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Speaker 3: on many other teams. Is Joe has tremendous timing and anticipation.

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Speaker 3: He will throw the ball into windows, and he does

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Speaker 3: and so he gives his receivers an opportunity. Think about

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Speaker 3: and he threw the go route and obviously Higgins caught

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Speaker 3: So he's going to give Chase and Higgins opportunities, which

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Speaker 3: we're not really happening that much with Jake Browning, who's

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Speaker 3: I think, look, I don't think Chase will get twenty

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Speaker 2: It's a fun part of it though, is to see

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown only eleven carries, but we saw the explosive

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Speaker 2: beyond the two big guys. Noah Fan had a touchdown

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Speaker 2: catch tight ends all around here. For those in the

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Speaker 2: only two sacks. That was the thing that stood out

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Speaker 2: I know I'm on one one thousand and two one thousand,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that was something that a

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Speaker 3: sees things. I mean to me, a great play that

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Speaker 3: And they basically bracketed Higgins and Chase on that play

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Speaker 3: he sees instantaneously. And you know, thirty seven yards is

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Speaker 1: Three for forty nine overall for the third year man

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Speaker 3: Princeton, Princeton, yep.

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Speaker 2: So I mean we've got to celebrate that. He was

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Speaker 2: one of those guys, you know, when I do the

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Speaker 2: fantasy talking up before the season, Greg thinking that Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow would be upright for a while, like there's your ninja.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully with Joe Flacco's arm, they're able to get

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Speaker 2: that going. But interesting times as they get to three

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Speaker 2: equation and another gun slinger.

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Speaker 3: Rogers gets a snap back pressure coming deludes, it fires

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Speaker 1: Your talk on fire Tibo crazy at the left sideline,

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Speaker 3: The five touchdown fireboats want to play sixty eight yards.

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Speaker 2: cleaning that sixty eight yard rumble stumble and you know

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Speaker 2: make them pay. They get good balance as well. Rogers

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Speaker 2: Mike might have those giant dragon boots on while I'm

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Speaker 1: Which is good. We got to keep that.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of action.

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Speaker 2: Let to go later on today talk about the Rams

441
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Speaker 2: and Jaguars coming up in an hour. Two teams ranked

442
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 2: in the top ten when it comes to total team defense.

443
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 2: No Nakua for the Rams and this one ball security

444
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: has been a bit of an issue for the running

445
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: backs though Kyrin Williams top ten rusher. We look at

446
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 2: Travis etn and what he's been doing thus far on

447
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: the ground. Both of them from an offensive standpoint, they're

448
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 2: separated by one tenth of a point. But for the

449
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: Jacksonville offense continue, you know, just curiosity of trying to

450
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: find that second receiver. Did they finally find that when

451
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Speaker 2: with a healthy Tim Patrick a week.

452
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Speaker 3: Ago, Well, you know, I don't know if he's a

453
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Speaker 3: true number two. I think when I look at Jacksonville

454
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: and I think the concern for this given game. They

455
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: played Seattle last week and they could not protect very well,

456
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 3: and they couldn't protect very well against the Seahawks' four

457
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 3: down lineman rush. The Seahawks rarely blitzed, but they couldn't

458
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: protect very well at all. Do you know in that

459
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: game the Jaguars never got into the red zone one time.

460
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: That's very rare in an NFL game. And now they're

461
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Speaker 3: playing a Rams team, Mike, that has a really dominant

462
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 3: four man d line pass rush and they are one

463
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 3: of the highest percentage stunt teams in the league. They

464
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: have multiple stunt concepts with their defensive line. So to me,

465
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Speaker 3: I look at this game and I just wonder, the

466
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Speaker 3: Jaguars are absolutely going to need to shore up their

467
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Speaker 3: pass protection because quite frankly, they're just not very good

468
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 3: on third down, and that's where pass protection becomes a big,

469
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Speaker 3: big deal.

470
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Speaker 2: Conversely, we look at what Matthew Stafford and company have done.

471
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Speaker 2: I mean the fact that Pokin Daku was already fifty

472
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Speaker 2: receptions for the season. He'll miss this one as they

473
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Speaker 2: have the bye next week. We've got six teams on

474
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Speaker 2: by next week, so a lot of holes blown in

475
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Speaker 2: fantasy lineups and certainly a shorter slate of games for

476
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Speaker 2: us to peruse. But all that's say, you're looking at

477
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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford right now, already up towards seventeen hundred passing

478
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: yards on the season, sixty seven percent completion rate, twelve

479
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 2: to two touchdown interception ratio. Last week was one. I

480
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: think I was a little bit eyebrow raising. I think

481
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: everybody expected them to just release the hounds and absolutely

482
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Speaker 2: obliterate a wounded ravens out animal. Instead, seventeen to three,

483
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 2: he goes for one to eighty one. It's the old

484
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 2: succeed in proceed Greg did. Sometimes style points don't matter, Ye,

485
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Speaker 2: take your w.

486
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Speaker 1: And move on.

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it'll be interesting without Nakua because obviously he's

488
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: highly targeted. We know that he's a high volume receiver,

489
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Speaker 3: but it's the way they run their offense sort of

490
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: conceptually that is so critical here because Nikua is a

491
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Speaker 3: movement guy. He's so important to how they play because

492
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: they're a high percentage pre snap movement offense and Nkua

493
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: is the guy, not the only guy, but the main guy.

494
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Speaker 3: So now who's the player that will fill that role

495
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Speaker 3: or will they be less pre snap movement because they

496
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Speaker 3: don't feel that they have a player who can do that.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the curiosity you got. DeVante Adams has been

498
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: fantastic for him, but yeah, Whittington to tu At well

499
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Speaker 2: are guys that slide up in the packing order in

500
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Speaker 2: that receiving game.

501
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Speaker 1: So that'll be a curiosity.

502
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Speaker 3: I think it'll be Whittington who they'll try in that

503
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: role and see how it goes. I mean, you know,

504
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 3: obviously they knew as of last week Niku was not

505
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: going to play this week, so Whittington probably got all

506
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: those reps in practice.

507
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Speaker 1: Hanging out on those Camden Yard fields, which is one.

508
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Speaker 3: Of the right stayed there.

509
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Speaker 1: Do a weekly spot.

510
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: In Baltimore, and so we were talking about that a

511
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: little bit that it was just kind of interesting and

512
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: people were complaining, get off the mound with your cleats

513
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: and things like all right, it's covered up and it's

514
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: not baseball season.

515
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Speaker 1: You guys were long eliminated.

516
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: But all of that, and then they did a spot

517
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Speaker 2: in Jacksville. It's like, well, what does that mean. It's like,

518
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: it just means coaches are trying to find something else

519
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: in the formula of how they approach these overseas games, right, right,

520
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: and not everybody has that level of trial and error

521
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: as the Jaguars have had low these many years. Right,

522
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: they've got it buttoned up, they've got their their sequencing

523
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: for McVeigh and company. They're trying to find any angle

524
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: they can and hanging out in Baltimore eating grab cakes

525
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: and practicing at Canden Yards something a little different.

526
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Speaker 3: You still got to win the game. You know, it's

527
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Speaker 3: an NFL game and there's only seventeen of them.

528
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Speaker 1: But that's it, right, So you're trying to find your angles.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know, I think I'd rather not

530
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: have Matthew Stafford on another cross country flight. You know,

531
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Speaker 2: say what we will about the Baltimore defense. He's taken

532
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: his licks and whenever you're worried about guys backs coming

533
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Speaker 2: into a year, whatever, I can keep him out of

534
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: a plane it's probably not the worst thing in the

535
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: world before you head overseas for another game. All right,

536
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: one that keeping an eye on, certainly personally the Chicago Bears,

537
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: coming off a big win Monday Night football. Once again,

538
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: they're the only team that's a graphic you probably saw

539
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: a million times over the course of the year, only

540
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: team to score twenty one or better and all their

541
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Speaker 2: games this year. I don't if you told me they

542
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: were going to be tenth in scoring at this point

543
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: in the league, I would have been surprised. Not that

544
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: there weren't going to be a work in progress, maybe

545
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: if we took the second half, but the fact that

546
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: it's come together. But they've been really good at taking

547
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: the football away the last few weeks. But for Caleb Williams,

548
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: what are you seeing on tape? Getting more come? I

549
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: guess more complete In terms of his reads With Ben

550
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Speaker 2: Johnson's offense.

551
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Speaker 3: I think that he's, you know, gradually getting better. Don't

552
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: forget this. He started from scratch this year with a

553
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: brand new offense. It's as if he's a rookie, and

554
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: this is not an easy offense to deal with for

555
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: many different reasons. So I think that he's a work

556
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: in progress. I think there's some good, there's some not

557
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: so good. What's really interesting. And I've always believed first

558
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: down is the best down to throw because you get

559
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: more predictable fronts, more predictable coverage looks. He's been very

560
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: efficient throwing the ball on first down this year, and

561
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: I think that's one thing that Ben Jonson understands really

562
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: really well. You know, he's cut down dramatically on his sacks.

563
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: That's a really big deal. He's only been sacked ten

564
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: times in have they played? They played six games, right

565
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 3: or yeah, five five? Five? So they're three and two, right, right,

566
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 3: So he's only been sacked ten times. And we know

567
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Speaker 3: how much he was sacked a year ago. We know

568
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: how much he was sacked in college, and normally guys

569
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Speaker 3: who get sacked a lot in college tend to get

570
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: sacked a lot in the league, and surely that happened

571
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: a year ago. But he's cutting down on that. I

572
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: think they're doing a really good job with the route

573
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: concepts and the route combinations to present it clearly for him.

574
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: I mean, that swift fifty five yard touchdown was a

575
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: beautiful play design a third down, it ended up being

576
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: pitch and catch because of the play design. I think

577
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: one thing that one trade Williams must improve as he

578
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: gains more experience is sort of comfortable calculated pocket movement.

579
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about Mike running out of the pocket.

580
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the way guys sort of navigate the pocket.

581
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: You know, a step here, a slide here. They sort

582
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: of work in an area that's, you know, smaller than

583
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: a boxing ring, but kind of a small area. And

584
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, his tendency right now is

585
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: to break down and start to look to escape. And

586
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: I think as he develops more and more, hopefully he

587
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: can become more calculating in his movement. But he's a

588
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: work in progress and I don't think anybody should be

589
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: surprised that they'll be good, and there has been good

590
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: for sure, but then there'll be some things that he

591
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: continually needs to work on.

592
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Seven point four yards per attempt thus far a pretty

593
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: solid I think I was like thirteenth in the league.

594
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Big play potential has been there, but the sack total

595
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: certainly not lost on me, and I think those that

596
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: watched this team last year in terms of taking so

597
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: many sacks, because then we get into the old fight

598
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: how much of that is the offensive line, how much

599
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: of that is the quarterback holding onto the ball? I

600
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: think I always add a little more shade, maybe ten

601
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: to fifteen percent more on the quarterback, trying to make

602
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: the video game play if it wasn't even more than that.

603
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: Greg the good quarterbacks, and I heard Tom Brady talk

604
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: about this numerous times, the good quarterbacks will always tell

605
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: you that sacks are on the quarterback, and I tend

606
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: to believe that with all my years of tape study,

607
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: that sacks are on the quarterback. So the fact that

608
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: he's not getting sacked much, and he does not throw

609
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: a lot of interceptions, so that's a big deal too.

610
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: He doesn't he turned the ball over, So in those

611
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: two areas, he's clearly improving. And of course he didn't

612
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: throw a lot of interceptions as a rookie either, but still,

613
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: you know, I think that there's clear incremental improvement going

614
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: on here.

615
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Speaker 1: First year playing under center, working that yeah, action, et cetera. Yeah,

616
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Speaker 1: and last.

617
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Speaker 2: Week, finally a bit more in the run game from

618
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Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift. There's been a lot of questions as to

619
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Speaker 2: whether they needed to be in the marketplace, perhaps for

620
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: a guy that'll line up opposite them today, although Alvin

621
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: Kamara says he.

622
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: Wants to stay in New Orleans.

623
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Speaker 2: So but with three weeks left until the trade deadline,

624
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: expecting some fireworks in that regard as well.

625
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't who knows about that stuff that you know,

626
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: there's always speculation about that. But I thought your under

627
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: center point was a really really good one because that's

628
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: something that is really important to the Ben Johnson offense.

629
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Speaker 3: You know, he wants his quarterbacks to be able to

630
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: execute what I call conventional play action and play under center,

631
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: and and that's that's a big deal. And we'll see,

632
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: you know, as he continues to play, there'll be more

633
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: and more of that. And I think that that's a

634
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: really really important part. I mean, you know, he's right now,

635
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: he's top five in the league and under center dropbacks.

636
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: You know, the two the guys you would think would

637
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: be in the top five are Stafford Darnold, Jared Goff.

638
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: Actually Drake may Is as well, but Caleb Williams that's

639
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: not something he was used to at all playing in

640
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: college and much of last season. So that's something you

641
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: have to learn too. Because think about it this way, Mike,

642
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: when you turn your back to the defense. That's a

643
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: learned trait because in the NFL, the defense is not

644
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: in the same place when you snap your head around,

645
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: So it's a learned trait. You have to know exactly

646
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: where to look, exactly what defender you've got to pick out.

647
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: You know, those things take time, and it speeds up

648
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: your clock because you know you only have a certain

649
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: amount of time.

650
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Speaker 2: Well, that's like, you know, let me nerd out for

651
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: a second, go off fold the original Star Wars when

652
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: they put the helmet on Luke and they didn't want

653
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: him to see, right Obi Wan's training him and he's

654
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: got to know where that little orbiz that's going to

655
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: start shooting at him, and he's got to do it blindfolded.

656
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what you're trying to do here, right,

657
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Speaker 2: You're trying to get those paces to where there's a

658
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Speaker 2: trust and an understanding of what's developing when you haven't

659
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Speaker 2: seen it before.

660
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Speaker 3: Because if you turn around, you know, and again I

661
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: think people can he can easily understand this. If you

662
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Speaker 3: turn around and you're not sure what you're seeing, BOYD,

663
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Speaker 3: does your internal clock speed up so fast? Because you know,

664
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Speaker 3: you know you don't have time now to sitting. Okay,

665
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Speaker 3: well where should I be looking? You have to know

666
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Speaker 3: right away. So clearly that's something that he has to

667
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: continue to work on. He hasn't thrown any interceptions when

668
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: he's been under center, but he has a low completion percentage,

669
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Speaker 3: so that's still that part of that is still a

670
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Speaker 3: work in progress.

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Speaker 2: At next piece, sixty one on the year. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's go and we'll give this the two plus minutes

673
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Speaker 2: it deserves. Carolina at New York. I asked Bree to

674
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Speaker 2: look for a justin Fields highlight from last week. She

675
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Speaker 2: could not find one.

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Speaker 1: Uh one in a Carolina.

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00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: It's the team to talk about it. They're three and three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the joke. That was the Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what it was.

680
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: Building three and three, ric O'Donnell back to back huge weeks,

681
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: Chewba Hobbard coming back, Dave Canalis has this team headed

682
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Speaker 2: in the right direction. It looks like a win potentially

683
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: on the board here on the road, and all of

684
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Speaker 2: a sudden, hey, we've got another team fighting in the

685
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Speaker 2: NFC South.

686
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Speaker 3: You know, I watched the Panthers against the Cowboys last week,

687
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Speaker 3: and I thought it was really interesting because their defense

688
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: is pretty good. I mean, their D line's pretty good.

689
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Speaker 3: You know. I think it's a young group. I think

690
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: they're going to get better. You know. Obviously offensively, look,

691
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: they need to be able to run the ball. Now,

692
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Speaker 3: they're not going to get that kind of running game

693
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Speaker 3: every single week what Doubtell has done for the last

694
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: two weeks, which is just off the charts. But Bryce

695
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Speaker 3: Young and I know he was a number one pick,

696
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: but ultimately he's settled in as kind of a complimentary piece.

697
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: That's the way they have to play. He's not going

698
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: to be throwing for three hundred yards. You can't drop

699
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Speaker 3: him back forty five times by choice. So they have

700
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Speaker 3: to play a certain way. They have to be a

701
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Speaker 3: running football team, and they have to play good defense.

702
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: And they've have played pretty good defense, and I think

703
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: that's their template. That's who they have to be.

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00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Looking at the at averaging twenty two points per game offensively,

705
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Speaker 2: Jets down there at twenty and a half. For the

706
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: defensive side, given up twenty four games, so not much

707
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Speaker 2: of a differential there between what the Panthers have been generating.

708
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: But still looking in that receiving core, you got Ted

709
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: McMillan at the top and the next leading receiver, Tommy Trumble.

710
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: But the distribution of the ball is interesting because he's

711
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: already got what seven guys with at least nine catches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're waiting for to get to know, to become

713
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Speaker 3: a really significant part of their past game, and he's

714
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Speaker 3: going to need to be if they're going to move

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Speaker 3: forward in that area. But just a quick point about

716
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Speaker 3: their defense. I think one player, and again he may

717
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: not be well known or around the league. They signed

718
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Speaker 3: him as a free agent, Trayvon Morigg, who was with

719
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Speaker 3: the Raiders, who is at one point a first round pick.

720
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Speaker 3: He's a really important player for them. They play a

721
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Speaker 3: lot of what we call big nickel with three safeties,

722
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: and Morig is kind of the wildcard chess piece in

723
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: that big nickel defense and he's become a really important

724
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Speaker 3: piece to that defense.

725
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: There we go, We'll see how much they can confuse,

726
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: disrupt and absolutely confound justin fields and mid dare I say,

727
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: Torod Taylor before this game is over. We're just getting

728
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Speaker 2: warmed up working up a ladder here in the studios.

729
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Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday, Mike Greg co Sell with you

730
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Speaker 2: at Greg Cosell where you find him on Twitter. You

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Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome as we continue one

732
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Speaker 2: of the big games of the slate. Yeah, the over

733
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Speaker 2: under sitting at fifty five, but missing some principles. What

734
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Speaker 2: can Jayden Daniels do for you? How does he navigate

735
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Speaker 2: today's game missing some big weapons.

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Speaker 1: We'll tell you next here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Get those toes tapping on a Sunday morning, Welcome back

738
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Speaker 2: in Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Harmon, Greg

739
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: Cosell with you Mark on the ones and twos. We'll

740
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: certainly go down that classic rock rabbit hole with us

741
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: Greg each and every Sunday, no.

742
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Speaker 3: Question, you got to you got to get those.

743
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Speaker 1: Get the blood pumping, you know, get a good bass

744
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: rift going and away we go, no quick, there you go.

745
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: All right, So one of the games that's really very

746
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: interesting on a million levels. Later on today we got

747
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Washington and Dallas. When we look at Washington there three

748
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: and three on the year, Jaden Daniels operating with a

749
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 2: little less than a full staff as they get ready

750
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Speaker 2: against Dallas. And we know what Dak Prescott has done

751
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: historically in division at home has been a wrecking crew.

752
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: And what that offense could do. But let's stay with

753
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: the Commanders for a second. You got Crosskey Merritt out

754
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: of the backfield, ran well against the Bears, had some

755
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: big plays, but no McLaurin for another week. Deebo Samuel

756
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: got downgraded out. They were optimistic that he would be

757
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: able to go, and he's not gonna be available. You're

758
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: already down another receiver, right brown out, So trying to

759
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: find the next man up more zach Ertz a week ago,

760
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: and we certainly saw what McCaffrey with the broken play

761
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: for the thirty three yard touchdown. So they're gonna be

762
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: looking deep down the roster trying to find playmakers in

763
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Speaker 2: what looks to be a high scoring affair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, although I think Cliff Kingsbury has done a really,

765
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: really good job schematically. This is a team that now

766
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: for two years in a row, Mike has run the

767
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 3: highest percentage of plays in no huddle than any offense

768
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Speaker 3: in the NFL, and they do it by a wide margin.

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Speaker 3: That's obviously coach Kingsbury's philosophy. And now they're playing a

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Speaker 3: Dallas defense that has really struggled. They're not a very

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Speaker 3: good defense my sense and just from studying players all

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Speaker 3: through the years. This is a team that hardly plays

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Speaker 3: any man coverage. You know, Cover one is the predominant

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Speaker 3: man coverage where you play with a single high safety

775
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Speaker 3: and man across the board. They play the second lowest

776
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Speaker 3: percentage of Cover one in the league. It's a very

777
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Speaker 3: low percentage. And I personally think they have better man

778
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: corners than zone corners. But again they may feel otherwise.

779
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Speaker 3: But you know, I think that this now huddle offense

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Speaker 3: of Washington versus this Cowboys defense that's not been very

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Speaker 3: good and the way Kingsbury sort of schemes it up,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think they'll still score points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Trevon digs out for this one cancuss

784
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: and something that happened at his house. Bland's been less

785
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Speaker 2: than one hundred percent. We know the high level of

786
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: zone the Heber Blues plays. I think they are high

787
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: light Like eighty six percent or thereabouts was an estimate

788
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Speaker 2: as I tried to go through perusing data while watching

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Speaker 2: a bad horror Actually, no, you know what I did.

790
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: I turned off the bad horror movie and I went

791
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Speaker 2: back and watched the classic wolf Man. I expect all

792
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Speaker 2: of you in the next two weeks before Halloween to

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Speaker 2: go back to the original Universal Monsters.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're gonna end up, you know, they're gonna play

795
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: Elam at one corner, you know, or Elam who they

796
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: got from Buffalo, who's a man corner, not his own corner.

797
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: I guess the next man up would probably be Kaln Carson,

798
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Speaker 3: who they drafted a year ago in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: So they're you know, they're going to struggle. You know.

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Speaker 3: I think Washington can still do some damage in the

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Speaker 3: pass game.

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Speaker 2: Now we look at the other side with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: They get CD Lamb back this week alongside George Pickens,

804
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Speaker 2: who's been fantastic. Question of you know, the same thing

805
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Speaker 2: that we asked a little bit earlier in terms of

806
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: all right, you got to make sure you feed them early,

807
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: keep them in the game given past issues, shall we say,

808
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: Although I think that Pittsburgh receiver room is haunted a

809
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: lot of great players, but it seemed like they're always

810
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: ended up being a nice end point to all of them.

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Speaker 2: But for Dak Prescott getting good work out of Javonte Williams,

812
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Speaker 2: they'll need him in balance here against Washington.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they couldn't run it last week at all, they'll

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Speaker 3: get CD back. Pickens is a little freakish. I mean, again,

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Speaker 3: none of this. I don't know George Pickens. You know,

816
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: you can read what you want, but he is really gifted,

817
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: you could argue just in terms of pure physical gifts.

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Speaker 3: He's a top six to seven receiver in the league.

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Speaker 3: And they move him around when they feel necessary. He's

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Speaker 3: normally their boundary X and I think he'll stay there

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Speaker 3: now more with CD back. But last week, for instance,

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Speaker 3: they did they moved him around quite a bit because

823
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Speaker 3: they didn't want the matchup versus jac Horn as much

824
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Speaker 3: as they wanted versus Michael Jackson, and Pickens had a big,

825
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Speaker 3: big game.

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Speaker 2: Had Michael Jackson skating or moonwarhing around the field looking

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Speaker 2: at Dak Prescott. Thus far, just a monster start to

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Speaker 2: the season. Nearly seventy two percent completion rate, that's a

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Speaker 2: career best seven point one yards per attempt. While that's

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Speaker 2: not with his career highs. You're looking at thirteen touchdowns

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Speaker 2: and three picks. He's only been sacks seven times. I

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Speaker 2: read that with the offensive line that would be a

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Speaker 2: bigger issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just going to say that, and you know,

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Speaker 3: It's funny the Panthers last week. They've not been a

836
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Speaker 3: high percentage blitz team, but they blitzed a lot and

837
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Speaker 3: Prescott was phenomenal versus blitz.

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Speaker 2: As we continue here, lots of big games on this

839
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Speaker 2: couple of young quarterbacks front and center. But we've got

840
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Speaker 2: a battle here in Los Angeles. Is Daniel Jones? Is

841
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 2: this Indianapolis Colt squad for real? We'll find out the

842
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: Chargers looking to get healthy on the defensive side. That

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Speaker 2: is one of your highlights of the week. He's Greg

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Speaker 2: CoA Seal. I'm by Carmen. It's Fox Football Sunday. I'm

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in a hour two of the program,

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmen alongside me Greg coast Sell, as we

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Speaker 2: get ready for another hour of Week seven previews, looking

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Speaker 2: ahead to some monster games in the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: because we're at that point in the season Greg, where

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Speaker 2: it's the I really hope I can figure out what

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Speaker 2: you are because if I can't, I'm wondering if in

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Speaker 2: the rooms you're doing a lot of Spider Man meme

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Speaker 2: point at each other trying to figure out the same question.

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Speaker 3: No, I think teams should have a pretty good idea

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Speaker 3: of what they are now, who their good players are,

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Speaker 3: how they can play effectively. I think if you're still

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Speaker 3: struggling that right now, that would not be a good

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Speaker 3: thing generally.

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Speaker 2: This is where we get into the potential chaos of

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Speaker 2: the season. Obviously, we look at Miami and a lot

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Speaker 2: of finger pointing and.

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Speaker 1: Stuff in the media there.

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Speaker 2: We've already seen a coach fired down in Tennessee after

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Speaker 2: some some hit historyonics on the sideline going back to

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Speaker 2: last year with Callahan. So now they'll look to their

870
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: next chapter for cam Warden Company, and they've got Drake May,

871
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 2: who we referenced you did last hour, Greg talking about

872
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do thus far, number five

873
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 2: in the league in passing yards and really a team

874
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: that stepped forward, perhaps a lot faster than certainly I

875
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: thought they would.

876
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and May's improvement's been really really good. I mean,

877
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: he's he's been so good. I think we've talked about this,

878
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: but it's just more and more noticeable every single week,

879
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: is how good he is in those difficult situations, those

880
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: litmus test situations for quarterbacks, third down versus blitz. They

881
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: throw the ball really well on first down, they've not

882
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: been able to run the ball great. See here's a

883
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: perfect example where you can talk about when teams say

884
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: you don't have great weapons. I know Stefon Diggs has

885
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: obviously been a good receiver in this league, but he's

886
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: not been a big target guy, so they've been able

887
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: to use other players kay Shan Boody. You know, Hunter

888
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: Henry's a very good tight end. He gets overlooked a lot.

889
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not bright brock Bauers or Kelsey in his prime,

890
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: but he's a very good tight end. And they do

891
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: a great job. You know. To me, they did what

892
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: you should do. And this is just an opinion I've

893
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: always had about young quarterbacks. They brought in a veteran

894
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: NFL coach in Josh McDaniels, who's done it at the

895
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: highest levels, worked for years with Tom Brady. To me,

896
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: that's what you want to do with a young quarterback.

897
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Mike you don't want to bring in and again just

898
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: my opinion, you don't want to bring in a thirty

899
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: three year old guy without a lot of experience. You

900
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: want to bring in a coach that has a resume

901
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: at a relatively high level in the NFL to work

902
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: with a young quarterback. And just one final point, Drake

903
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 3: May in his two years at North Carolina, his final two,

904
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: Clyde Christensen was the quarterback coach. And Clyde Christensen coached

905
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: in the NFL for years and years, and he coached

906
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, he coached Andrew Luck. I know I'm missing

907
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: one as well, another big time quarterback that he coached

908
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: as well. But you know that's what you do with

909
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: a young quarterback.

910
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: Well, well you look at it.

911
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: It's the I guess we both shouldn't be learning on

912
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: the job together, correct, right, hey, And that's the thing

913
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: that's a great point. The hot shot. You know, young

914
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: guy will be at the college game or whatever you've

915
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: decided to put him in that role, like they've got

916
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: a lot of learning to do too. So to have

917
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: that on a young quarterback, how many times have we

918
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: seen that just go disastrously wrong? And then it takes two, three,

919
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: four stops where maybe the guy gets shots to redeem

920
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: his career, the player that is, and you know it

921
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: works and maybe it doesn't.

922
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: And you know what if the offensive coordinator is not

923
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: the guy. You know, maybe he's not the guy, but

924
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: then your quarterback coach should be. Because the coordinator has

925
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: to deal with so many other things, he can't really

926
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: coach the quarterback on a day to day basis, But

927
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: your quarterback coach can. And that guy needs to be

928
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: someone who's been through it before. You know, it's not

929
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: as first rodeo as it were, that he understands the league,

930
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: he understands how to coach quarterbacks because you know, we

931
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: just assume, oh, quarterbacks are going to go out and

932
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: make plays. Well, there's so much that goes into quarterback

933
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: play that starts with just the fundamentals of playing the position,

934
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: which quite frankly, in college a lot of guys don't

935
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: get because of the nature of college pass games.

936
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: Especially also the mobile world that we're living in the

937
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: college correct, I mean trying to ascertain who's great who's

938
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: not on a given week in college football. I think

939
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: we've got a couple of guys that are starting to

940
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: rise to the level here, Greg. But you know, as

941
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: we do start prognosticating, of all, right, which guy will

942
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: look good in what uniform? Because well, and doing that stuff.

943
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: And just as an aside, you mentioned college football, there's

944
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: a quarterback at South Carolina that fits that perfectly. Leonora's Sellers.

945
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: I evaluated him this summer from his tape last year,

946
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: and yes, is he big? Can he throw it hard?

947
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: And can he run around? He's that he can do.

948
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: But when I watched his tape from last summer, and

949
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: again I haven't watched tape this year, but from what

950
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: I see on TV, you know he's not advancing in

951
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: kind of the subtleties and the nuances of the and

952
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: the disciplines of playing the quarterback position. And that's what

953
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: you have to be able to do when you get

954
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: to the NFL. The game is not built on just

955
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: running around and making plays.

956
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: No, it's it.

957
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: And we talked about Caleb Williams. He would have been

958
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: a prime example of that of trying to play within

959
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: a structure and change how you approach things. And that

960
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: learning curve for some is short. For some, they never

961
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: get to see that end point that railroad track.

962
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: Great point.

963
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: Are bugs bunny or wiley coyote kind of things might

964
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: out of service?

965
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a great point. And we'll see what

966
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: some of these some of these quarterbacks that are coming

967
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 3: into the NFL.

968
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: It's fun.

969
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: Yesterday's seven top twenty five losses, So chaos in the

970
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: rankings and certainly in the Heisman odds. Going back to

971
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: Carson Beck and what transpired on Friday night, we were

972
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: marveling at the show, Heyo Tani show while keeping an

973
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: eye on the college football games. I want to talk

974
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: about the college football game some more. I mean, oh,

975
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: Tonni's great, right right, There's chaos over here with Louisville,

976
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: But we continue on as we get back to week

977
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: seven here in the National Football League and a team

978
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: that has everybody's eyeballs, the Denver Broncos. Later on they'll

979
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: they'll face off against the Juggernaut and the whiz Kid

980
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: with Jackson Dart and Cam Scattabo coming to town. A

981
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: defensive battle perhaps in the offing. What have you seen

982
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: with bo Nicks in the Denver offense through the first

983
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: six weeks.

984
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: He's been a little up and down. I think you

985
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: said good moments, you know, I think I would have

986
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: expected that the development would be, you know, a little

987
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: more straight lineish, and I think he's been up and down.

988
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they're really a defensive team right now, Mike,

989
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: I mean that defense. They lead the NFL in sacks.

990
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: This is the second year in a row. Last year

991
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: they leed the NFL in sacks advance. Joseph he does

992
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: so many good things upfront with how he aligns his fronts,

993
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: the number of people he puts in upfront that you

994
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: have to account for, and then who stays, who drops out.

995
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: They are a very difficult defense to play against. In

996
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: addition to the fact that they have players that can

997
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: win one on one. I mean, Benito and Cooper can

998
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: win one on one on the edge, Zach Allen can

999
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 3: win one on one inside. Franklin Myers is a very

1000
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: good player. They're just really really good, both schematically and individually.

1001
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: And I'm fascinated to see that game today and particularly

1002
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: to watch the tape early next week when it's over,

1003
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: to see how Jackson Dart and Brian Dable, Obviously there's

1004
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: a coaching element to that as well, how they handle it.

1005
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: Because Jackson Dart, he's used his legs a ton and

1006
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: my senses. You'll see the same thing today, because I

1007
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: think he'll struggle a bit with what he's seeing and

1008
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: how it then plays out, how they change the picture

1009
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 3: pre snap to post snap.

1010
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Fifteen point eight points allowed per game. They've allowed fewer

1011
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: than a thousand passing yards total. This Ishich is hundred

1012
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: sixty five yards a game at this point.

1013
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: In today's NFL. That's crazy the.

1014
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Way we wing things around, it's incredible. Two hundred and

1015
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: fifty four total yards per game. And certainly when we

1016
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: talk about going up against certain it becomes the all right,

1017
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 2: who's my second option? And can I exploit that matchup?

1018
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: Perhaps a little bit, but certainly against this Denver defense

1019
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: that's been tough seletting, no question, just because that run defense.

1020
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: They were all certainly looking ready for the challenge as well.

1021
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: With Cam scatabo we say that one question.

1022
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: Just a quick point. I don't think they'll have that

1023
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: success they had last week this week, but that one

1024
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: of the most fascinating things about last week's games was

1025
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 3: that the Giants got the ball against the Eagles. Now,

1026
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: these are the Super Bowl champs with six minutes and

1027
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: fifty seconds to go in the game, and they ran

1028
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: out the clock right and they out Yeah, and Scatabow

1029
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: had five rushes in that stretch in that final six

1030
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: minutes fifty seconds all of them came out of three

1031
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: tight end personnel where they put the tight end bellingers

1032
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: and I formation fullback, and they just physically wore out

1033
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: the Eagles defense. Who would have thought that, but that's

1034
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: what they did, That's what he gained. He didn't have

1035
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: a ton of yards until that final drive when he

1036
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: had five for forty four.

1037
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things, little throwback football. I

1038
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: sometimes find myself wiping away a little wisp of a

1039
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: tear from my eye, you know, the old three yards

1040
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: of a cloud of dust that I became accustomed to as

1041
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: a young boy. Now as we look at a game

1042
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles a little later on today, Indianapolis

1043
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: comes in against the Chargers. Chargers looking to get back

1044
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: and healthy. About Khalil Mack is going to be on

1045
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: a football field is another one of those great things

1046
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: to illustrate, other than my size and speed and well

1047
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: all those physical attributes that football players are just built different.

1048
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: Because I would have not expected to see him on

1049
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: a field until December if we were lucky. But here

1050
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: we are in mid October, and he's looking to go

1051
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 2: to later on today to bolster that d And.

1052
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: That's important because this has been a very tough offense

1053
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: to play against. I think a lot of people probably think, oh,

1054
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 3: it's Jonathan Taylor's offense, and he's having a terrific year,

1055
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 3: leads the NFL in rushing. But I'm not sure a

1056
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: lot of people would have thought that through what's their

1057
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: record five and one? Is it five and one? That

1058
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: through six games, Daniel Jones far and away has the

1059
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: most first down passing yards in the NFL. Think about

1060
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: that for a minute, because John, we think, hey, it's

1061
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor's offense. And by the way, as I said,

1062
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: he leads at and rushing and he's third in first

1063
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: down rushing yards. So think how good they've been on

1064
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: first down That Jonathan Taylor's third and first down rushing

1065
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: yards and Daniel Jones, by a wide margin over Sam

1066
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: Darnold leads the NFL in first down passing yards. This

1067
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: has been a very, very efficient offense.

1068
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: A ton of numbers that come out, you know, we

1069
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: could play fun with numbers with Daniel Jones forever, but

1070
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: one of those that popped to the front is the

1071
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: fact that he's got in his career with the Giants,

1072
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: he had eight completions of twenty plus air yards in

1073
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: his six seasons, he's already got five.

1074
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very well schemed offense. And one of

1075
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: the things that really stands out is how well he's

1076
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 3: throwing the ball between the numbers. Those are difficult throws

1077
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Now, a lot of quarterbacks feel comfortable

1078
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: making those throws because they're tight window throws, and Jones

1079
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: this year has done that extremely well.

1080
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: So we look at another piece of fun with numbers

1081
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: just based on offensive setup right in the tape review.

1082
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: Thirty seven percent play action for Daniel Jones this year, yep.

1083
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: And then you got the Chargers defense on the other side.

1084
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: Fifty seven percent completion percentage allowed against play action this

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00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: year per Next Gen Stats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean getting Mac back you mentioned it,

1087
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: that's a big deal. But they're a big play action team.

1088
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones has been very good in play action. So

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00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: this is this is one of the fun matchups. And

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00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: we'll see on the other side of the ball as well,

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00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: because I think the Colts are hurting a little bit

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Speaker 3: on the back end. Ward is out for at least

1093
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: four games. Shavarius Ward. I know the Chargers have struggled

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00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 3: quite a bit upfront, and Herbert's been under a lot

1095
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 3: of durests this year. But this looks like a game

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00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: where they might be able to feel they can work

1097
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: outside and have success throwing the football. But obviously it

1098
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: all starts with protection.

1099
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: All three wide receivers available. I know that Herbert's had

1100
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: the highest blitz rate against him in the NFL this year,

1101
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: and part of that owing to they were hoping alt

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00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: would be available. It looks like it's going to be

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00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: another week before you.

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Speaker 3: Get to back out. Yeah, Herbert's face the most blitz

1105
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: drop backs this year, and you know, of course that

1106
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: makes perfect sense because you're playing with guys dealing with

1107
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: the blitz very often with your old line is about cohesion,

1108
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: and they've had to move a lot of people around,

1109
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: play a lot of different players, so they haven't had

1110
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: the cohesion that's necessary upfront to deal with those kinds

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00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: of things.

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00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 2: And last week, the fantasy world and the football world

1113
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: as a whole introduced to a guy we talked about

1114
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: a bit, wondering when his opportunity to become Kimani Vidal yep,

1115
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 2: And he was off like he built like a house

1116
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: and was off to the races a week ago, looking

1117
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: to make some hay and perhaps take a little bit

1118
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: of that pressure off of Herbert.

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00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were in him a lot out of

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00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: multiple tight end personnel. And that's something you might see

1121
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 3: more of because you know, get some big bodies out there,

1122
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: try to pound the football, take some pressure off that

1123
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: old line and Herbert. We'll see if that continues this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, as we continue, it's Fox Football Sunday, Mike

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: Harmon alongside Greg co Sel.

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1130
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, Greg, as we go, we've got

1136
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: one of those old fashioned revenge games. Okay, we just

1137
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: have to tag it that because the guy's playing against

1138
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: the team he used to go against. But it looks

1139
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: like a potential opportunity here. We'll tell you who it

1140
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: is and all about next. He's Greg co sal On,

1141
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon, and this is Fox Football Sunday.

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00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,960
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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,759
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1145
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,319
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1146
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Mike Carvin alongside Greg go sal Just

1147
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes to get those lineup changes and

1148
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: picks in Fantasy Wise or in your Pick set Survivor picks,

1149
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: all of those kinds of things as we get ready

1150
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: for the game overseas, Rams and Jaguars coming up in

1151
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes. But later on today we've

1152
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: got the battle of the defending champions. It's the Philadelphia

1153
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: Eagles on the road at Minnesota and Carson Wentz. Yes,

1154
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, who thus far has played played some pretty

1155
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: good football for these Minnesota Vikings. Putting up some good numbers,

1156
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: gets Jordan Addison back, obviously, Justin Jefferson on the outside

1157
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: when you're looking at Philadelphia, Mitchell's got a little bit

1158
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: of a hammy injury, so that's concerning against these behemoths

1159
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: on the outside. Greg particularly when we've talked about the

1160
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: struggles of the Philly secondary overall.

1161
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've use Mitchell for the most part as a

1162
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 3: matchup corner this year because of the struggles opposite him. Jackson,

1163
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: when healthy has been the player there. But Ringos had

1164
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: to play and he's not a starting corner in this league.

1165
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: So we'll see if Mitchell can go and how long

1166
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: he can go. But Wentz has played well, you know

1167
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: a couple of things, and Kevin O'Connell is so good

1168
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: with quarterbacks, he has Wentz just being so much more

1169
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: aware of getting the ball out because winch uosed to

1170
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: get sacked a lot, hasn't been sacked that much. He

1171
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: did against Pittsburgh, but that was a game where he

1172
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: had to throw and drop back I think plus fifty times,

1173
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 3: which obviously you don't want. But for the most part,

1174
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: he's played a fishing football, more willing to take some

1175
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: of the shorter throws, which was always an issue for

1176
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: him in a previous life as it were. So yeah,

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: he's played well. And to be honest with you, Mike,

1178
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of this Eagles offense

1179
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: right now. I just don't. I mean, you know, look,

1180
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 3: the offensive line has not played well. They cannot run

1181
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: the football. The inability to run the football has impacted

1182
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: them in so many ways because they're not really a

1183
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 3: passing team. The pass always has been situational and in

1184
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 3: many ways works off how the defense has to play

1185
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: their run game because Hurts is a major factor in

1186
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: the run game. But they're not a passing team in

1187
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 3: a strict sense. So right now they're really having a

1188
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: hard time on offense.

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Speaker 2: What is the curiosity to me is just that the

1190
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: reluctance to I get it, the offense has spotted and

1191
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: the run game has been grossly inefficient, but the fact

1192
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: that they've gone away from it so quickly, right Barkley, Yeah,

1193
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: that's ago. Just five carries last week, just eleven.

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00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: Well, when they started the game last week where Barkley

1195
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: had an eighteen yard run and a thirteen yard run

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Speaker 3: on the first two plays. You know, there's been a

1197
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: lot of plays where blocks have been missed. You know,

1198
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: you could make the argument the last two three years

1199
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Speaker 3: that in terms of run blocking, the best left side

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00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: of an offensive line in the National Football League has

1201
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: been Landon Dickerson and Mayo Lotta, Jordan Mylotta Dickerson's been

1202
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: hurt this year and even when he's played, he hasn't

1203
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: been anywhere near as good. And quite frankly, may A

1204
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: Lota has not had a very good season relative to

1205
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: what he's done in the past. So they've really struggled.

1206
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: Their cam Jurgens has not been as good as he

1207
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: was a year ago at center, so it's you know again,

1208
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, they have a new offensive coordinator. He's been there,

1209
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 3: but it's his first time calling plays. They've just been

1210
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: they've struggled. And then you know last week, for instance,

1211
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: they had a play on the first drive of the

1212
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 3: third quarter where if the blocks were made, it might

1213
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: have been an eighty seven yard Barkley touchdown. But the

1214
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: blocks were not made. And that's happened as well, where

1215
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: it's been laid out perfectly and they've just not been

1216
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: able to execute.

1217
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that curiosity. Also, you know why we celebrate

1218
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: and I know this in your film review and we've

1219
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: talked about it before, when you've got the wide receivers

1220
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: tight ends that do that extra right tight end position.

1221
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: Once upon a time you've blocked a lot and if

1222
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: you got to pass, it was like a reward until

1223
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: Tony Gonzales, Antonio Gates and company with rare exception.

1224
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: Of course, now we look at go ahead, gret.

1225
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: And I was gonna say they're somewhat limited in the

1226
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: pass game because Jalen hurts. He throws the ball outside

1227
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: the numbers. Very well, it's hard to live that way

1228
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: in the NFL. One thing he doesn't do, and they

1229
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: don't really call a lot of this because that's not

1230
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 3: the way he sees the game is he does not

1231
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: throw the ball between the numbers, particularly at the intermediate

1232
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: levels let's say twelve to twenty yards. They've got the

1233
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: fewest pass attempts of any team in the league in

1234
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 3: twelve to twenty yards between the numbers. And if that's

1235
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: not really part of your offense, then you're very limited

1236
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: with your pass game.

1237
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: Makes for a very interesting shot chart. Nonetheless, Yeah, yeah, question,

1238
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: Philly a narrow favorite on the road in this one.

1239
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to one of them. Well, what is shaping

1240
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: up to be the higher scoring by far of the

1241
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: Monday night games? And this guy front and.

1242
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 8: Center, second down and eleven, if shot gun looked Tucker

1243
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 8: in the backfield in motion, Baker Mayfield, Bell high Snapp

1244
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 8: looks upfield, goes the ball downfield, he's on a receiver of.

1245
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: But to ball Touchtoup Turpa Bie touch stop buccaneer, Fitchtels

1246
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: Johnson touchdown Buccaneers. What a prop by pickerby Field.

1247
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: There you go, as we get the legend on the

1248
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: call there Baker Mayfield to the front of everybody's MVP

1249
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: balloting this week, going up against Detroit, a game that

1250
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: is in the high fifties in terms of you're over undertotal,

1251
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: but playing with a bit of a makeshift receiving corps.

1252
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: But it's a next man up scenario. And as you

1253
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: heard there Tess Johnson making a play downfield. Still questioning

1254
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: whether Evans or a Bookle will be available on Monday

1255
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: Night football, both trending towards nine.

1256
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, see, I mean it's we still have a

1257
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: couple of days, they have that extra day. But offensively,

1258
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: you know, Baker's playing at a really, really high level

1259
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: right now. And see this is a classic case where

1260
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: you know, I think, if you're well schemed on offense, sure,

1261
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: do you want Evans out there? Do you want to

1262
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: book out? Course you want better players out there. But

1263
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: if you're really well schemed and they are well schemed,

1264
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: with a lot of concepts that would be viewed as

1265
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: base concepts in passing games, but they execute them really,

1266
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: really well. And Baker is seeing the field very cleanly

1267
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: and the ball is coming out. You know, he's he's

1268
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: at his best when he's decisive, and he's being very

1269
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: decisive right now. And we're actually seeing Baker make plays

1270
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: with his legs, which you know, he's not a great athlete,

1271
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: but he's he's been able to do that this year.

1272
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: So this has been a really good season. And Baker's

1273
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: you know, the last couple of years, he's played really well, Mike.

1274
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: It's it's it's hard not to talk about him, you know,

1275
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: in the top five to six category right now. The

1276
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 3: way he's played the last couple of years.

1277
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: It's just fun.

1278
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: We go back to that point in time in twenty

1279
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: twenty two, it's him and Sam Darnold hanging out in Carolina. Yeah,

1280
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: and then Baker goes and has the cup of coffee

1281
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: couple games with the Rams before becoming the guy in Tampa.

1282
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: The last two year, sixty nine touchdowns. This year, twelve touchdowns,

1283
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: just one pick. That's the biggest thing. Cutting down turnovers

1284
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: and making those plays, like you said, with his legs.

1285
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: Go back to Peyton and Drew Brees and all those guys.

1286
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: They weren't exactly making it look good when they did

1287
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: after scramble, but they knew when they could pick their spots.

1288
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they played predominantly with three wide receivers on

1289
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: the field. Even if they don't have their main guys,

1290
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: they still stay with that. I mean last week they

1291
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: played a ton out of eleven personnel, meaning three wide receivers.

1292
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 3: That's the way they work in their pass game. Close

1293
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 3: to ninety percent of his dropbacks this year have come

1294
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: with three wide receivers on the field and all of

1295
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 3: his touchdowns, So no matter who the wide receivers are,

1296
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Speaker 3: they stay with the philosophical approach of their pass game.

1297
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: Now we go down the other side of things. The

1298
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. Remember week one the rumors of their demise,

1299
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: while that faded fairly quickly as this offense started to

1300
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: find its way here Greg the last couple of weeks certainly,

1301
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: but when we look at their offense, Gibbs modg I

1302
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: could do without the halfpack toss as much as Yeah,

1303
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: but look for those that would have had a winning

1304
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: bet for Jared Goff.

1305
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: They got screwed.

1306
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: But you know that we'll leave that to the bookmakers

1307
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: in the league to decide how they adjudicate such things.

1308
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: But you know, in an offense that loaded for bear

1309
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: and each week trying to figure out next to the

1310
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: eight or nine that were penciling in for catches from

1311
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: a'man ross a Brown, it's a fun fun offense to navigate.

1312
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And last week against the Chiefs, they couldn't quite

1313
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: get their offense working the way they wanted to. They

1314
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 3: couldn't run the football. The Chiefs defensive front was stronger

1315
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: in the run game versus the Lions old line and

1316
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 3: tight ends. Now, they were not playing with Decker last week.

1317
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: Taylor Decker, I think he's due to play this week.

1318
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 3: So they couldn't develop any sustainability in their run game

1319
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 3: that they wanted to achieve, because that's the way they

1320
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 3: came out in the first half. They had eighteen called

1321
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: runs and thirteen called passes, so they clearly wanted to

1322
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: come out and run the ball. They just never developed

1323
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 3: any kind of rhythm offensively last week. I would bet

1324
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: at home this week on a fast surface, you'll see

1325
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: their offense be back to what we've seen it more

1326
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 3: often than not. And they couldn't generate any really big

1327
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: explosive plays last week versus the Chiefs defense, and normally

1328
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: that's part of their offense. So you know, when those

1329
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,479
Speaker 3: things happen sometimes on the road, as you know, Mike,

1330
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 3: then a team gets back home and then they start

1331
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: to look like the way they normally look.

1332
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: Get back on your track, all right. Joseph and Arnold

1333
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: out for the week. Decker still with the questionable tag,

1334
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: but looks like he should be able to go and

1335
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: is trending towards playing. But that one, certainly we've got

1336
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: great interest in.

1337
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 3: And Branches out too. Branch is out too. He suspended

1338
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: for the game.

1339
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, one of the best.

1340
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 3: A big deal. Yeah, yeah, that's a big deal. He's

1341
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: a really good player.

1342
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we and we mentioned, as you did, the

1343
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs the defense right now giving up just twenty point

1344
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: seven points per game.

1345
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 3: The Chiefs, Yeah, yeah, they've done that for the list

1346
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 3: is Yeah, you know, it's so funny because that's the

1347
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: way they've been the last number of years. But because

1348
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: the focus is always on Patrick Sharons and the offense,

1349
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: and deservedly so, I'm not saying it shouldn't be, but

1350
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: Steve Spagnola, who's been one of the best ever on

1351
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. They have been really,

1352
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: really good for the last what two three years, and

1353
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: people don't really focus on that because of Mahomes and

1354
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: how special he can be, but that defense is very,

1355
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: very good. And you know, there's a name that not

1356
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: a a lot of people know on that defense, but

1357
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: he is being he's playing more and more snaps. His

1358
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: name's Leos Chanal and he's playing at a really high

1359
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 3: level right now.

1360
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So ninth, eleventh overall, twenty point seven allowed there,

1361
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: they're ninth in terms of offense at twenty five point

1362
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: eight per game, And that's where folks, you know, the

1363
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: sexiness of the Mahomes numbers. And I don't know how

1364
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: you expect a guy to throw forty five touchdown passes

1365
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: a year, but that's what we came to expect after

1366
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: that start to his career.

1367
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, first year is a starter? What he throw fifty? Yeah,

1368
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: going back, you know whatever that was for, you know,

1369
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 3: for second year in the league, first year as a starter.

1370
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so folks expecting the fireworks year after years stay

1371
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: you know, you find balance in competition.

1372
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 3: It's hard to do.

1373
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 1: And now you got talking Rice back into the mix.

1374
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, so now they ever see Rice. I wonder

1375
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: who's not going to get snaps now? But you know,

1376
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: as we we've discussed the last number of weeks, now

1377
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: they do have team speed on offense. They didn't for

1378
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: a number of years. Now they do be interesting to

1379
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 3: see who who sits so to speak, now that Rice

1380
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: is back, because Rice is just a really good you know,

1381
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: in many ways, he works the same area of the

1382
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: field that Kelsey in his prime work. He's kind of

1383
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: when he was playing, he was starting to replace Kelsey

1384
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 3: in that way in working sort of between the numbers

1385
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: at the short intermediate level. He's really good at that.

1386
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: Worthy Brown and Rice, Yeah, you've got speed for days.

1387
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see what the next iteration of his

1388
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: offense is. Still waiting for them to run the ball

1389
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: with a little more effectiveness. But Checko and Hunt have

1390
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: been the two guys thus making it happen. But adding

1391
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: more elements to the passing game always work to balance

1392
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: in definition, That's what Arnold Schwarzenegger said. And pumping iron,

1393
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: so I try to ascribe to that every day.

1394
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 3: Greg, Yeah, you know what I have to say, I

1395
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 3: missed that movie. I'm sorry.

1396
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, you got at least some good one liners.

1397
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: You can run on people out of that, even if the.

1398
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: Arnold always give you Yeah, that's just it.

1399
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: There's some of the origin story there, going back to

1400
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: that weight lifting culture and hanging out in Venice Beach

1401
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: here in southern California.

1402
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's get another game in. We've got the.

1403
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: Falcons playing the forty nine Ers. We're talking about a

1404
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: couple of top defenses here Atlanta. I think folks starting

1405
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: to really understand how good they are, particularly and the

1406
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: perimeters we talk about blocking and getting back in San Francisco.

1407
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: Is gonna get George kittleback? How much does he change

1408
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: the complexion of what they're able to do for Mac

1409
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: Jones today.

1410
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 3: Well, I almost think theoretically he impacts run game, perhaps

1411
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: where they've not been able to run the ball, because

1412
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: one thing George Kittle can do, and this is critical

1413
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: to run games, is if you have a tight end

1414
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: that can block defensive ends one on one, that changes

1415
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 3: everything about your run game. So I'm curious to see

1416
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: if the forty nine ers run game is better. But

1417
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: I'll say this. You know I watch as much tape

1418
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: every week as I can. You know I can't get

1419
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: to every single game. There's not enough time. I'm only

1420
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: one person. But I love watching the Falcons defense. This

1421
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 3: team plays more cover one than any team in the league.

1422
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 3: They blitz the highest percentage of any team in the league.

1423
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 3: They increase that dramatically on third down. So now you

1424
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: get into a situation where Kyle Shanahan knows this, and

1425
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 3: when is mac Jones at his best? And when is

1426
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: that pass game at its best? When the ball gets

1427
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 3: out on time and the pressure can't get there. That

1428
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: really stemied the Rams a couple of weeks ago. They

1429
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 3: don't blitz a lot, but their D line couldn't get there.

1430
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: So now we'll see how Jeff Albrico, I think has

1431
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: done an amazing job Mike as the deco native for

1432
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 3: the Falcons, We'll see how he handles the blitzing part,

1433
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: because they have been so good at doing something that's

1434
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 3: so hard to do in the NFL, and that's getting

1435
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: free hitters at the quarterback.

1436
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,520
Speaker 2: Now, quickly, let's go to the other side the Falcons offense.

1437
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: Thus far, I mean John Robinson has been a wizard.

1438
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 2: They're averaging just twenty points per game. So looking for

1439
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: a bolstering there and a boost because it's really been

1440
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: a two man game with Michael Penix thus far. It's

1441
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: Drake London, it's Bijon Robinson and a question mark.

1442
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're a pistol offense. I mean they line

1443
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: up in the pistol at a higher percentage than any

1444
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: team in the league by far. They lead the NFL

1445
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: in rushing right now. Bjon Robinson's is eighty three carries,

1446
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: seventy one have come out of the pistol. He is

1447
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: such a difficult play. You know, it's funny you have

1448
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 3: two backs in this game that in many ways are

1449
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 3: similar in the way they can be deployed within the

1450
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: context of their offense. In McCaffrey and Robinson, because they

1451
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: both detached from the formation, they're both used in motion.

1452
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,520
Speaker 3: They both present major issues as receivers. And you know, Robinson,

1453
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: they almost view him as their second best receiver after

1454
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 3: Craig London as a wide receiver. I'm not talking about

1455
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 3: just as a receiver, as a wide receiver. So we'll

1456
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: see how it plays out. But their offense, I think

1457
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 3: beas on Robinson. I know I've said this before. I

1458
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 3: think he's the best back in the league.

1459
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: Three hundred and.

1460
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: One yards after the catch. He's got three hundred and

1461
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: thirty eight on the year. Does beyond Robins.

1462
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 3: And McCaffrey has four hundred and forty four receiving yards.

1463
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's well. We talked about it when we were

1464
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: first starting this show this year, Greg, I thought he'd

1465
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: see a lot of action as a receiver. I didn't

1466
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: think it because the plague of injuries would really cripple

1467
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: that receiving cord of the Yeah it did, but look,

1468
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: you make do with your aptitudes and certainly deploying two

1469
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: of the best in the game there. Can't wait to

1470
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: watch that a little later. A couple more games left

1471
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: to go on the slate, but first got to take

1472
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: a time out. Go over to our guy Isaac Low

1473
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: and Crown to get an update. Eight on our sporting

1474
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: unis what's going on?

1475
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: I love good morning, fellas.

1476
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 8: It is two thirty eight in the afternoon at Wembley

1477
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 8: Stadium in London, where the Rams and Jaguars both four

1478
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 8: and two, are scoreless. Three and a half minutes in

1479
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 8: the Rams with a second out and four at the

1480
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 8: Jacksonville thirty nine yard line on the opening.

1481
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: Possession of the game.

1482
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 8: The Jaguars went three and out, including Jared Verse of

1483
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 8: the Rams getting his fourth sack of the season. The

1484
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 8: Rams now continuing to move. They've got a first down

1485
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 8: and ten at the Jacksonville thirty five yard line on

1486
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 8: their first possession eleven minutes in counting in a scoreless

1487
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,879
Speaker 8: first quarter. In London, we actually have some fresh NBA

1488
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 8: news on this Sunday morning. Kevin Durant has agreed to

1489
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 8: a two year, ninety million dollar extension with the Houston Rockets. Now,

1490
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 8: I decided to make a joke by saying that Durant

1491
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 8: celebrated the extension by getting into arguments with random people

1492
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 8: on Twitter.

1493
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: But it turns out that's exactly what you got. Gotta

1494
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: pay you this up. Did you get a response already

1495
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: for your trolling?

1496
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 8: I did not, but a short time ago someone named

1497
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 8: Tommy did. Tommy posted thirty five minutes ago quote KD

1498
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 8: locked in forty five million dollars for his age thirty

1499
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 8: nine season dot dot dot Not sure I'd characterize that

1500
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 8: as an unselfish sacrifice unquote, to which Durant himself replied

1501
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 8: twenty five minutes ago, quote, what would you characterize it as?

1502
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 8: Since we characterizing bleep this morning?

1503
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Unquote Kevin Durant celebrating his ninety million dollar extension as

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Speaker 8: only he can. Meanwhile, in college football on Saturday night,

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Speaker 8: thirteenth RT notre name if he had a number twenty

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Speaker 8: USC thirty four to twenty four, Jeremiah Love ran for

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Speaker 8: a career high two to twenty eight. Ja Darien Price

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Speaker 8: a one hundred yard kickoff return for a touchdown. Number

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Speaker 8: six Alabama over eleventh rank Tennessee thirty seven to twenty,

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Speaker 8: featuring Zabian Brown getting a ninety nine yard pick six

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Speaker 8: to close the first half. And in the Holy War,

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Speaker 8: number fifteen BYU prevailed over twenty third ranked Utah twenty

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Speaker 8: four to twenty one, winning the Holy War for a

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Speaker 8: third consecutive time. Meanwhile, the Rams continuing to drive. They

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Speaker 8: got a first and tent at the Jaguar twenty three

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Speaker 8: on their opening possession, score less in London five and

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Speaker 8: a half minutes and guys, back to.

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Speaker 1: You, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: Ilo at Isaac Lowen Cron where you find him, Angel

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01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: City Chargers, you name it he's got you covered as

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01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: well as tracking Kevin Durant as we go through and

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 2: God blessing ninety million dollars, I want on board.

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Speaker 1: I'll collapse back in, folks.

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Speaker 2: I'll actually I'll take all the incoming you got for

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Speaker 2: a percentage of that. We've got some weather over in

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: this game in loving because after every pass Greg, they

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: are sliding on the extra ten yards, so it's sliding

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: catch and there he goes, He's safe at home.

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Speaker 3: My favorite thing, Mike, not my favorite.

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01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: So we'll see how that affects things as we go

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01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: to the short and intermediate game. But the Rams on

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01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: the move here as we approach the midpoint of the

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01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: first quarter. Now we got a couple more games left

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: in the balance. But if you missed any of today's show,

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Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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Speaker 2: get your podcast. Right after the show, Brianna, he'll get

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Speaker 2: follow it, rate it five stars, provide a review, send

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll

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Speaker 2: find today's full show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. Thanks to Chris, Thanks to Brion and thanks

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: to Mark who is with us an hour one for

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Speaker 2: helping us move this train along. He's Greg co sal

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Speaker 2: at Great co Sale is where you find him forty

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Speaker 2: six years NFL Films. You hear him on Thursdays at

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Speaker 2: one pm on Colin Coward Show, breaking down some big

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Speaker 2: plays with the video accompanying accompaniment. Here he paints a

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Speaker 2: picture with words. Yes, it's Bob ross Worthy. Each and

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Speaker 2: every week find me over at swollen Um. Although I

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01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: don't know you, did you have that same air due?

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01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 3: I hope I do it effortlessly?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, there you go. Thanks Pal.

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Speaker 2: You gotta listen to the whole show or download the podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, we got two more games left

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01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: on the slate and our overarching thoughts as we enter

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,919
Speaker 2: week seven. That's next here on Fox Welcome back, finishing

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: up strong. Here it's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: Mike Carmon, Greg co cell an effortless drive for the Rams.

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 2: I was bound to determine, Greg coast Cell, I was

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: gonna get that word out, Okay, I left off the

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: day for savings.

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Speaker 3: Did you practice it during the break?

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01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: No, we were talking about sandwiches.

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: It's only in the morning. For you.

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01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: I've been up for three and a half hours already.

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: I can't sleep ahead of a show. Right, well, then

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: it's probably time.

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Speaker 3: Three and a half hours, probably time for pizza.

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Speaker 2: Then it could be I think we could probably find

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01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: a place down the st that'll be more to me

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Speaker 2: to service.

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Speaker 1: It's radio, I mean, it's la It works all.

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Speaker 3: Night right in there. You go.

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We'll see, we'll we'll find out.

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, there's always something in the offing here, but

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: we already have a ram seven to nothing lead. Stafford

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01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: with a touchdown pass here to Monthfeld.

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 3: In the there you go the pit kid, yep, oh yeah, touchdown.

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01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 2: Found him nicely in the back of the end zone

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01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 2: on a little bit of a scramble rule out. So

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: here we are six twenty six left Jaguars looking to respond.

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: A couple of games left in the offing for us, Greg,

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to to one that's uh, well, got my

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: attention because well, the coach has been under a fire

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: for some of his comments and sideline demeanor, but he's

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01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: got a veteran quarterback back under center.

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Speaker 8: Three receivers to the left, shotgun Statsett, straight drop that

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 8: zips it to the right, caught it the five bye

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01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,480
Speaker 8: dorch and he's heads for the end zone touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett was back under center. Three hundred and twenty yards,

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns, a pick, sixty one percent completion rate against

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01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: the Colts, but that was a thriller a week ago.

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Speaker 1: He's going to get the.

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Speaker 2: Nod again against the Green Bay Packers. He's definitely a

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: curiosity for me, as is the coach who's really kind

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: of curious in his sideline demeanor and certainly in his

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Speaker 2: press conferences.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny you watch for set play

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01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 3: and he's just a different player than Kyler Murray. There's

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01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 3: a little more rhythm to the pass game, and we'll

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01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: see if that continues. Green Bay for the most part

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Speaker 3: this year. They had that game against Dallas where they

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Speaker 3: gave up forty, but for the most part this year,

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01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: the defense has been solid. Jeff Hapley does a really,

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Speaker 3: really good job. There's a lot of changing the picture

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Speaker 3: pre snap to post snap. We'll see. I'm sure he'll

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01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 3: do a lot of that today. I know Brissett's a veteran,

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 3: but that's something that you know he's always struggled with.

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Speaker 3: A bit. I think it's one reason why he's never

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 3: really been a full time starter because I think at

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Speaker 3: times he gets stuck in the pocket and he's not

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01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 3: certain as to where to throw the football in what

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Speaker 3: he's seeing. So I think he'll see a lot of

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Speaker 3: that today.

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Speaker 2: They're hoping to have Harrison available. He was in concussion

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01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: protocol but was trending towards playing, So we'll keep an

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: eye on that as this one gets closer. On the

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01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: Green Bay offensive side of things, for Jordan Love and company,

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01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: it's still the all right, let's kill him in mass

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: with the number of receivers that the deploy on a

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Speaker 2: weekly basis. But this Arizona defense giving up just twenty

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Speaker 2: one points per game, greg, so looks like they'll be

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Speaker 2: up to the task.

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Speaker 3: It's a solid defense and they do a lot of

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 3: different different things on the back end. This is where

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon is so good with what he does on

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 3: the back end. But I really like the way Love

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01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 3: has played. You know, we forget he's only in his

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Speaker 3: third year as a starter, Mike, you know, it feels

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Speaker 3: like we've been talking about Jordan Love for ten years. Sure,

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01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: but he's only in his third year. As a starter,

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01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 3: and I think he's become more efficient, more sustaining with

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01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 3: his REGs and his throws, and there's always a thrower

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01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: too in every game where he's aggressive and attacks with throws.

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01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 3: Maybe one or two might be viewed as reckless, but

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Speaker 3: I think overall he's settled in a little more. He's

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: taking what's there. He's allowing the offense to be more sustaining.

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01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: And they certainly had Jacobs I think is now questionable

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01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 3: from what I'm saying.

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were saying he was a game time decision

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01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: into the over.

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01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 3: Now yeah yeah, But I mean they obviously have a

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01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 3: solid sustaining run game with Jacobs, who's a very physical runner.

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 3: So this is a pretty good offense. And Love. The

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01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 3: thing about Love he still can be aggressive and get

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01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: the ball down the field.

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01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: Folks need to go hit up Emmanuel Wilson on their

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01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: waiver water really quick forty one the over under Houston Seattle.

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01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: We talked about Sam Darnold earlier for the Houston side

1654
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 2: of things, looking for CJ.

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,520
Speaker 1: Stroud against that Seattle.

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01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: D Yeah, Seattle pass rush was phenomenal last week against Jacksonville,

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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 3: and they basically did it rushing four and on the

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01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: other side, Seattle needs to protect because Will Anderson to

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 3: Neil Hunter, Anderson is as good as speed to power

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01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 3: rusher as there is in the league. And he's going

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 3: to be going up against Abe Lucas at right tackle,

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01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 3: and Lucas has struggled a bit this year. To one

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01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: on one pass.

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01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: Bro Houston the best defense in the game right now,

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01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: giving up to twelve point two game.

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Speaker 1: We'll enjoy the game. It's always a pleasure. Greg. It's

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01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: a fun week. We got through it.

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01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 3: Oh I love it. Mike love love doing this every week.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Countdown to kick Off presented by Bett MGM Coming up

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