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Speaker 2: She is such a spitfire in somebody that I spent

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Speaker 2: how you feeling?

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Speaker 1: I'm just a little nervous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're an expert in all these things. You're,

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Speaker 1: And that makes you used to admire your phone?

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Speaker 2: Now may she used to talking in front of people.

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Speaker 2: You taught things all the time.

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Speaker 1: I do. I talk a lot, and you're.

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Speaker 1: I'm I talk plenty. Yes, I don't know. There may

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Speaker 2: And your credentials here are going to be your age.

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Speaker 2: Can you share with everybody how old you are? I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, right close to forty years now.

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Speaker 2: And you've been out here by yourself for how long?

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Speaker 2: And you're really a very big expert at the independent world.

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Speaker 2: You have been independent for as long as I can remember.

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Speaker 1: I've always thought of myself as independent. However, I have

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Speaker 2: Before this period of your life, you had lived at home,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine as a kid. Oh yeah, and then befo,

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Speaker 2: when you left home, were you married immediately?

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Speaker 1: Pretty soon? Graduated in June fifty six, nineteen fifty.

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Speaker 1: We're expected to be because the housewife, and because it

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Speaker 2: Okay? And is that where my mom and my aunt

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Speaker 1: And the star was in my next marriage? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Later on? Did you end up going back to college

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Speaker 1: I worked at a was an insurance mortgage company in Newton, Kansas,

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Speaker 1: which was about, I don't know, twenty five thirty miles

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Speaker 2: And she was a wild spit like she got everything.

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Speaker 1: What do you call the time she had, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: No, it was just when she lived. She and my

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Speaker 1: Never lived there in Marion before. Okay, we moved in

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Speaker 1: We moved from first and that's where I grew up,

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Speaker 2: Well, you've lived were wearing Kansas, Grandma.

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Speaker 1: Just that he was gone. It was about all it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I loved school, of course, it was something

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Speaker 2: Not as fun then?

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Speaker 2: For where your love of what you think like teaching

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Speaker 1: I remember that my eighth grade English teacher was the

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Speaker 2: So you had went to college after your first marriage,

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was my second marriage. Then we moved back

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Speaker 2: Isn't fair. I don't think anybody typically wants to it

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Speaker 1: And but I moved there because they were there too, so.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm sure I was thinking to myself, not

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Speaker 1: And I eventually quit working over at Eldaredo. There were

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun and we swam there. I don't

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Speaker 2: Have you ever traveled? Was there ever traveling as part

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Besides Kansas, because I know you've lived in multiple counties in.

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Speaker 1: The Kansas exactly. The only other place I've ever lived

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Speaker 1: We were only there for about less than a year.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember for sure.

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Speaker 2: So Oklahoma is the only other place you've been lived lived?

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Speaker 2: Where all have you traveled to? Did you get a

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Speaker 1: And to Canada most all from about the middle of

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Speaker 2: That's cool. Was Canada pretty?

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Speaker 1: Years they have been there through I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating. That was a big part of my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun to learn the things that you want

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Speaker 2: What's going to happen? What am I leaving behind one day?

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Speaker 2: And that's why I love having these conversations. Is hearing

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Speaker 1: Just probably if I hadn't. I've worked all my life

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Speaker 1: As I get older, it was hard for me to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that comes from being an English teacher. You can't.

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Speaker 1: and sociology all those you do a lot of writing.

443
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: And in his class classes he had all those taken

444
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: care of, so it was more upper level classes, but

445
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: he had to do a lot of writing. And so

446
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: I became an editor, which I mean in school anyway.

447
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess I didn't realize that period of

448
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: your life. You were staying home.

449
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: At first. Let's see. Yeah, first I was home. But

450
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: when he started going to school, he worked odd jobs.

451
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: He worked for the Fish and Wildlife Service for a

452
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: year or two, and I worked for them to doing

453
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: survey kind of thing. And so we were very poor,

454
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: and we worked for whatever we could get at because

455
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: we wanted to live out here in the country, and

456
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: it took all our money to do that. We were

457
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: just living, trying to get by and stuff out here,

458
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: and we had bought this place that had only it

459
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: was just fifty acres in it at that time, and

460
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 1: so we were trying to figure out what we were

461
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: going to do. And we had to cut wood because

462
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: we had just a wood fire, and so most of

463
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: we had most at a time, and we built a

464
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: shed and there's just a lot of stuff you just

465
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: did and took up your time, and that he decided

466
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to finish his his bachelor's degree. He had

467
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: about three years and something. So when he did that,

468
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: I got a job in town and so that's from then.

469
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: I've been working ever since then.

470
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: So when you're looking at your life and you're talking

471
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: about this and all these kind of different stories, what

472
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: were your favorite parts from your life when you look

473
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: back and they're really fond memories for you.

474
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: Oh, my having my grandchildren was always fun. I know Brian,

475
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: who's my last husband. We would go to especially to

476
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Jedema at this time. Michelle, my other daughter, lived in Seattle,

477
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: but we would go to Jeanette's home Jeanette.

478
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Cherry, which is my parents.

479
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: We had come back from Mexico. Brian and I had

480
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: gone out there and beknownst to it, but he of course,

481
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: and when we came back it was a matter of

482
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: what we were going. Can't live without the one kind

483
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: of thing. And he was a lot younger than I

484
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: was twenty years We saw this place advertised in paper

485
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: one time. We were staying out it Grandpa the place

486
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: who he had died, but his brother lived out there,

487
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: so we also lived out there and we were looking

488
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: for a place, and that was part of us going

489
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: to Carolina too, is we were together at that time and.

490
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: M so buying this place is one of those special memories.

491
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: And then the grandchildren and.

492
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: Being with Brian. It was the best part of any

493
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: marriage I've ever had. We did lots of fun things.

494
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: We learned together, the grasses, trees and everything surrounds us.

495
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: And the part of that was because he was a

496
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: biologist and I'm reading stuff that he's going to school

497
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: about because I don't know all that stuff, and it's

498
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: interesting and we're living in it. So we got involved

499
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: in when he was doing like his masters, he had

500
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: been studying, and we had been doing surveys of muscles

501
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: that are in rivers, and we got a contract from

502
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: state to survey verse did you do in the water? Yeah? Hey,

503
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: And so several summers we've been in Arkansas and Missouri

504
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: and all of Kansas, everywhere in Kansas, not the west,

505
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: just mostly the east and all up and down the East.

506
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: And we spend summers in a Volkswagen camper which we

507
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: had gone to Montana and.

508
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: Also traveled some of the country in that.

509
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: We had gone to. I don't know how long we

510
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: were gone, a couple of weeks. Maybe we're up to Canada.

511
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: And what was that like for you? You said he

512
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: was twenty years younger than you when you got married.

513
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: What was your wonderful had been treated like that? Ever?

514
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: You're having a heyday? Huh?

515
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: Yes? And I'd love doing all this stuff. It was

516
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: just it had been a pretty humdrum kind of life

517
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: for me. I had my likes and dislikes, and those

518
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: haven't changed so much, but they've deepened and added on

519
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: and stuff.

520
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: Some new adventures, doing new things, trying new stuff.

521
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: Got a motorcycle at a guard shale for five hundred dollars.

522
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: It was that sounds safe.

523
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, it was fun. I loved Friday.

524
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: Did you drive it or were you just riding? It?

525
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Was a what's all those Harley's? W Oh the BMW motorcycle?

526
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: But a BMW is a high gravity and my legs

527
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: weren't long enough to reach both on both sides of

528
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: the Yeah, so I couldn't drive it because they couldn't

529
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: hold it. I wanted it and loud one what do

530
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: you call them.

531
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: The ones with loud mufflers and stuff? Harley? Was it

532
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: a Harley?

533
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're low in the middle and I could

534
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: easily touch those.

535
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad had a I think it was Harley

536
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: growing up.

537
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: It was a Harley. I could remember. I knew he had.

538
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I rode on it. I total maybe

539
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: two or three times before Mom said, okay, motorcycles gotta go.

540
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: I got young girls in the house. This is not good.

541
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: And that is so true.

542
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: But you loved it. You're right on the back of it.

543
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have it. I didn't have It was

544
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: just broad and I didn't have anybody depending on me.

545
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were living free, Grandma.

546
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: It was awesome, going whatever you wanted to do, and

547
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: we were doing this great stuff out in the streams.

548
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: You're in the water all as the coolest summers I

549
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: ever planted or planted live because you were in water

550
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: all day. But it don't look like a squeegee or something.

551
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: It sponge. There's some water they water moccasin.

552
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, water mocasins.

553
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: We went in some streams that had does. I never

554
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: saw one.

555
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: They feel like a fairy tale to me because everybody

556
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: always talks about them, but I've never seen one.

557
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: I never want to see one.

558
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't think. I don't think that's

559
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: the goal when you're out in the water.

560
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: We're actually speaking of that. We were in Brian and

561
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: I did a contract for Oklahoma University. The science department

562
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: there wanted someone to down on the west Southwest corner.

563
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: But it had a lot of property around it, and

564
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: they wanted that. Checked wanted bustles and bugs and all

565
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff.

566
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Account you were always out in nature. There's one thing

567
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: I knew about you. You would come to the property

568
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: and you'd have horses, and you'd have chickens, and you'd

569
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: be out in the river.

570
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: And especially since I've been married to Brian, I love

571
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: being outside and it's not something I did a lot

572
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: of other than horses. I did always like to do horses.

573
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you still have a horse to this day,

574
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: you have one. What is the horse that you have currently?

575
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: Gh And how old is thch.

576
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: He was thirty four on Taylor's birthday.

577
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: Thirty four years old. He's been with you for a

578
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: significant portion of your life.

579
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I got him when he was eleven.

580
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. And you don't ride him. You guys

581
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: just hang out together.

582
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't ride you any more since I've been

583
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: breaking stuff.

584
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and you did break your hip and you've

585
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: been living out here, and what has that experience been

586
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: like for you?

587
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: It's it just really sucks.

588
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

589
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: But having a broken leg is what sucks. So you

590
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: can't get around like you used to do the things

591
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: you used to when you broke your hit. Yeah, but

592
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: living out here doesn't suck. If I had to use

593
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: a wheelchair, Aura, I could get a little car, something,

594
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: a little what do they call them, some kind of

595
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: scooters or something that you can drive out so I

596
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: can go around all around. I do not want to

597
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: go anywhere else.

598
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, too, You're gonna stay here forever. You make that

599
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: very clear times the thing so.

600
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: It fell to Michelle. Yeah, it didn't always when I

601
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: was in the hospital in which talk fell to Jeanette

602
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: and you guys said you did a fine.

603
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: Job too, Yeah, because otherwise I.

604
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: Was gonna hurt somebody because that there was horrible.

605
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: Hospital. FO it's never fun and it's hard you being

606
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: out here, and we love you and we miss you.

607
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: But also you've created a life out here. Much of

608
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: what you were just talking about is this whole life

609
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: you've created here, and I want to leave it. It's

610
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: what you've always known for this whole second part of

611
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: your life.

612
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So actually most of the years of my life

613
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: more doing this than anything else. And I love being

614
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: out here.

615
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: What was it like when you would have us come

616
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: out to the property? What it was funny. I remember

617
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: a story and you were talking about the chickens at

618
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: one point, and you traumatized me because it was about

619
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: chopping off their heads and it was not a great

620
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: experience as a vegetarian.

621
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: Property not but I've never been a vegetarian. I had

622
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: to get used to that when I was growing up

623
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: because I was the oldest child. And who do you

624
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: think mom got to do step for her. That was you.

625
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't a voluntary thing either.

626
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: You were required to do things.

627
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I never got used to chopping chicken tit off.

628
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: And that was real. You're telling me that was real

629
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: stories and you weren't just messing with me.

630
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: We had when we first moved out there, all of

631
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: us moved firsten to Peabody, his first time I've known

632
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: anything about greenmund County or southern Kansas. I want to say.

633
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: We had an outdoor toilet when we moved there. We

634
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: had no running water in the kitchen. Wow, had a pump.

635
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: There was a kitchen sink and there was a hand

636
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: pump there for water into the That was water in

637
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: the house. Wow.

638
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: So you were doing a lot of chores just to

639
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: have things that were functioning.

640
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Garden canny, separating milk to milk and cream and you

641
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: sold the cream for no need to get groceries on

642
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: child eggs.

643
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: Wow. And then you had the chickens. But then so

644
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: you had your own meat essentially, But that's crazy.

645
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: And a guy that owned the farm where we were

646
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: where my dad worked, he always gave I can't remember

647
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: how much it was, but a lot of beef. So

648
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: we always had beef. They butchered pigs, we had fork.

649
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: You went from that, and then obviously at different purces

650
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: of your life you had running water and now you

651
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: have electricity and stuff. But you almost went back a

652
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: little bit. You went back to that childhood. Yeah, because

653
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: not canned stuff.

654
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Now, I know that like natural stuff.

655
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

656
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: I like science too, though, and I like advances, and

657
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: I like to watch what they find out with the

658
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: telescope and the base landings and all that. I always

659
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: watched that and are ology. I like what happened a

660
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: long time ago. I think the Earth, that's a fantastic

661
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Thank god, I've got to be here.

662
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: What if this is just a figment of.

663
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: My it's sure. Say you're real. You're real. I can

664
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: touch you, I feel you. You're a real human being.

665
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: But it is cool. It's cool.

666
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: And when you live by yourself and you're out in

667
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: the country, don't even when you have to talk to

668
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: you a lot of the time. Is your dog. My

669
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: dog is very well educated. I've talked to him about

670
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff.

671
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: Cisco has the whole memory that you have. He's learned everything.

672
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so he's just said you're waiting for

673
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: me to.

674
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: Pick up the ball, pretending to listen just so he

675
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: can get a little piece of food or his toy,

676
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: one of the two.

677
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: I do think a lot about that kind of stuff

678
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: now because I can, I have time, and when I've

679
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: been working before and married. Somehow it got started with

680
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: Brian and I get together and exploits. If we went

681
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: to museums, We went to anything that would had to

682
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: do with both of those things, and we both like that.

683
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: They have a really good museum, small museum in Oklahoma.

684
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: We'd go down to a lot because you never can

685
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: see all of it at one time, it seems.

686
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: Are you mad at the microphone?

687
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Now? Oh?

688
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: I want to know from you because you've painted out

689
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: pictures of your life. But when you look at your life,

690
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: is there any parts of it that you regret they

691
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: look back on?

692
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh. People lie when they say there's nothing

693
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: they regret. Their liars are fooling themselves. I believe in

694
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: what we have here in nature, and I believe there's

695
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, civilization to humans state we're crawling around

696
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: on regret. I believe that's much easier for me to believe,

697
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: to believe that there's a god up here that puts

698
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: somebody on Earth and we've all expanded from that, and

699
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: he's the one that he still should ask I get.

700
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: I can't bring myself to believe it. It's just like

701
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: a fairy tale or a something the ancient person has

702
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: written down that everybody bought. Now we're still believing everybody's

703
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: believing that. But anyway, that's my own personal thing. I

704
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody else does. That's just mine. And

705
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: so that may be why part of why it fulfills

706
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: my need for some reason for this. So that's why

707
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: maybe astronomy fascinates me, because you know, how did some

708
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: star or what was this little thing at one specific

709
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: moment explode and become all these stars and galaxies and

710
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: black holes and planets. If they did, are they really

711
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: I want somebody to show me what was there before

712
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: this little black thing that exploded? What was over here?

713
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: Like, I have a lot more questions than I do answers,

714
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: So I'm going to need somebody to start answering something

715
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: before the end of it. And you were referencing your regrets.

716
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: I think in this part of that.

717
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Probably that I didn't take work when I had the chance.

718
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: When I was going to college, why didn't I take

719
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: these science classes and all that, because that's seems to

720
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: be the way I'm going Teaching is okay. It was

721
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: all right. I like students, and everything got along. It's

722
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: just a bureaucracy. You got to answer to this person

723
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: who interested this person, who answers to this person.

724
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: And I know you don't like answering to anybody.

725
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't.

726
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: That's not a thing that you like to do.

727
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: And I don't like to be told what to do.

728
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: But I'm in charge of something. I've had my clashes.

729
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: You've passed that down as well. Very independent women. We

730
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: like what we like.

731
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: But I think I've changed someone. Yes I am that

732
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: way and stubborn about being that way, But as I

733
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: get older and I think, and being in a hospital

734
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: and all that time makes you think about stuff like

735
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: that and how you could handle it, maybe in your

736
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: mind better than you've been doing. And I just think

737
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: there's no way to people having opposite inspirations or desires.

738
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: There's no way that either of these two people know everything.

739
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: It always it's good to talk. I regret that I

740
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 1: was always one minded or could not listen to other

741
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: people and actually listen to them instead of just hearing

742
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: what they're saying and not ever trying to understand or

743
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: think about it. I'm sure I've done that a lot

744
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: in my whole life. I think that's why better off

745
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: being out here in the country, don't have anybody.

746
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: To argue, is just yourself and your dog. I like

747
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: to end things on in it, particularly with you as

748
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: a piece of advice. Is there any advice you have

749
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: as people move through this life and they try to

750
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: understand thinking the.

751
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: Last person to want to give advice to someone.

752
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: No, you're great at giving advice. You gave it to

753
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: me for a lot of my childhood.

754
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: I know I'm great at giving it, but I'm not

755
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: sure it's the right advice for It.

756
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be the right say it was the

757
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: right advice for you at one point or another.

758
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sorry for all of my mistakes.

759
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: I really I don't regret marrying Brian because he's a

760
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: really nice person, not as nice as I had hoped

761
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: he was. Because nobody likes to be betrayed or left

762
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: or amand and that's how I feel about that. But nevertheless,

763
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: he is not or was not that's Mary to me.

764
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: It's very kind to everybody and very nice. And I

765
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: regret that we parted on such a bad note. I

766
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: do regret that I regret leaving Jay the way I did,

767
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: because he didn't deserve that either. And so those are

768
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: times when I recognize that I wasn't always a really

769
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: nice person, and I fully I agree, And so I

770
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: think that part of living by myself and thinking over

771
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: those things I do regret, I think is just a

772
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: way of coming to grips with who I've become up

773
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: till now. And I'm not sure what I'm going to

774
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: work on.

775
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: Next, And hindsight's always twenty twenty, right, you can look

776
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: at a situation after you've left.

777
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: And love's always been a little tough for me. If

778
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm in love, I'm in love.

779
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: We're deep feelers in this family.

780
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: M h.

781
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: It's very true. Yeah, Yeah, And they brought beautiful experiences

782
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: and memories and stories.

783
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: And I don't regret those. I really don't. I've had

784
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: some great experiences. Oh, should anybody else enjoy those? I

785
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: would wish that on anybody.

786
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: They're great to live life and go after the adventures.

787
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd always I would say that I was

788
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: more adventurous than I was a couch potato. I've always

789
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: not looked back very often or questioned myself very often.

790
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: If it looks like it's going to be fun, let's

791
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: do it, it's going to be a good experience, Let's

792
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: do it. And so I haven't pulled back away from that.

793
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: Maybe a little would have been.

794
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: Better, maybe now, yes, but that's what I don't regret it.

795
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't wish it had happened.

796
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: And what about advice as you look on your life,

797
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: if there's something you could tell somebody, maybe it's you

798
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: from way back when that you're telling advice too. If

799
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: you could go back and you could give advice to

800
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: your ten year old self about the life that she's

801
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: about to live up until this moment, what would you

802
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: say to her?

803
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: Go out and grab it, grab life, live, don't be

804
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: afraid to do stuff. Life would have been different if

805
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: I'd have gone to college right out of high school

806
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: instead of getting married. I can't help but think what

807
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: would that have been like. It would have been different

808
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: path for sure, And so I guess you really can't

809
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: do much else besides what you want to do. Something's

810
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna send you down a certain path of you to

811
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: your parents want you to go to college, or maybe

812
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: they want you to get get married, they want grandchildren,

813
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: or I don't know. There are a big influence on

814
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people, not all. There are a lot

815
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: of people that don't have real parents anymore, and I

816
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: haven't given enough lot to them.

817
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And it sounds like more than anything I

818
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: think you were you wanted to trust your instincts more

819
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: and go out and do things that you exactly wanted

820
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: to do. And there were moments of your life where

821
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: you pulled back.

822
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: A little and some not very many times.

823
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: So and that's the best part, right You started to

824
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 2: figure it out pretty quickly, if.

825
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: It tells you anything. I don't know even how many

826
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: jobs I've had in my life. I have never worked

827
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: for anybody or any institution anything more than three years

828
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: until I worked for Butler County here when I was

829
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: married to Brian and I worked with it.

830
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: You're just living all kinds of odd jobs and doing everything.

831
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've worked for radio stations out here when it

832
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: first got started. Oh so much. Ben?

833
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: Is that weird now for me that you realize one

834
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: of your grandchildren is in radio and that's one of

835
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: your jobs.

836
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: It's like a special This is my throwback.

837
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm the throwback.

838
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: Oh.

839
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: I love that. I'm glad I could be and just.

840
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: Learned to fly an airplane, had an airplane that I

841
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: flew wherever I wanted to.

842
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: You had a motorcycle and an airplane. He worked on

843
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: a radio station. You were also digging on muscles. And

844
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: what didn't you do at some personal.

845
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I haven't seen near enough countries and other cultures. That's

846
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: I missed that the most.

847
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: I think that's something any way you would have done.

848
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we see all these wars and all these

849
00:51:54,680 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: factions that person from there or whatever, and it's if

850
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: you stand back and look at it's just like a

851
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: bunch of kids that can't agree around the sandbox or something,

852
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: so they're gonna punch them out or take them out.

853
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: It just seems so stupid. I have to say that

854
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: I think we would not have It's my opinion anyway.

855
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: And I think women are very smart. I think they

856
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: have gotten that's short end of the stick a lot

857
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: of times, especially earlier. But I think if we had

858
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: more women rulers. We've had some like an Egypt and

859
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: some of those places and Queen Vicoria. But if we'd

860
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: have had more women leaders of men, women are like

861
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 1: at armies and services and stuff, I think we would

862
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: have had a lotier wars. Hot take Grandma, you know what, mother,

863
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: want your son to get killed in a war.

864
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: There's a little bit more empathy and compassion inside of

865
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: that then.

866
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: And men are always okay, I say always, not all

867
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: Petter like that. Not all women are like what I

868
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: just said. Until this time, did.

869
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: You ever have a moment where being a woman was

870
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 2: something that you really experienced, Because what I really see

871
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: is see you, and I see my great grandmother, and

872
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: you guys paved pass and you did things so that

873
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: way women today are set up to be able to

874
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: succeed and have leadership roles and stuff.

875
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: Was just still working on it.

876
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's still a work in progress. But

877
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: you guys paved a lot of pass that didn't exist before. Yeah,

878
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: and well, Grandma, I've kept you for so long in

879
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: doing this, But I do want to still end on

880
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: a piece of advice because I think you gave one.

881
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: But it could be motivation or set of advice, it

882
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: could be inspiration whatever.

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Speaker 1: Don't hate people that's the most destructive hate. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: just destroy somebody else, it destroys you. Would you hate people,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're not open to what there is

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Speaker 1: and the world. You see it differently because maybe some

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Speaker 1: other denomination there or runs this store whatever. It's so petty.

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Speaker 2: There's a great way for us to stand on because

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Speaker 2: it's words of advice from my eighty seven year old grandma.

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Speaker 2: Don't hate. It's not that hard. Yeah, thank you, Grandma,

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Speaker 2: I love you. Thank you for doing this with me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I hope I don't feel like complete idiot.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for letting me share my

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Speaker 2: grandma Bernie with you. Guys. She's such an incredible human

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Speaker 2: and somebody that I deeply adore and admire. So I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate this experience, one that I'm going to remember forever,

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Speaker 2: getting to record a podcast episode in her living room

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Speaker 2: of the house that she talked about. So if you

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Speaker 2: do want to check out the video of this, you

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Speaker 2: can watch it on the YouTube page at web Girl

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Speaker 2: Morgan and all the interviews are up there if you

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Speaker 2: want to go check those out and subscribe. If you

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Speaker 2: like listening to audio only, then make sure you also

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Speaker 2: subscribe to the podcast, and you can also follow the

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Speaker 2: Instagram page at take This Personally. All that stuff is

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Speaker 2: so helpful and really beneficial As we head into the

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Speaker 2: new year and doing this podcast, I know you guys

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Speaker 2: have so many options to choose from, so as always,

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you're here. And even more exciting

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Speaker 2: news next week, my fiance is going to join the episode.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk all about our engagement story and

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Speaker 2: all of the details and things surrounding the big moment

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Speaker 2: that happened over our Christmas break