1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Everybody's spilled Courtney with an army of normal folks and 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: it's shop Talk number sixty nine. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Welcome into the shop. How you doing, Alex? 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: I am doing great. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: You brought somebody with you to the shop today. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: It's bring your kid to work today. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: It's bringing you bring my kid to work. Oh yeah, 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: usually it's my kids here, that's right. 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who is You? 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: Got a grown man in the room? 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: And see him? 12 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: He's over there behind some books. What's his name? I 13 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: think it's Max? Is it Maxweller? Does he have a 14 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: full name? 15 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 4: Like, my name is Max. I go by Max, but 16 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 4: it's Maxwell Courtney, It's Max. My mother gets me. 17 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: Didn't call on you yet? You go away to. 18 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: It's my fourth child, my second son, Max Courtney. 19 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Hey Max, what's up? 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: What's up? Dad? What's up? 21 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: Your best work to date? 22 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Lisa. 23 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: I'd have to agree with that. I'd have to. 24 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Agree Lisa did most of the heavy lifting. 25 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 5: Actually, I heard of Jim Gaffigan clip on that this week. 26 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 5: What is it about, like men's country? You shouldn't having kids? Yes, 27 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 5: it's like yeah, the girls like got morning sickness and 28 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 5: they're carrying it in. Then they breastfeed and it's like 29 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 5: we contribute for all five seconds, and it's something that 30 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 5: we think about one hundred percent of the day. 31 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: I think it's thoughtful. I mean, we're very thoughtful people. Okay, 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: shop Talks at number sixty nine, y'all is kind of 33 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: a weird one, but I think you will all find 34 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: a great deal of. 35 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: Interest in it. 36 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: This Friday, in four hours or so from now, Max 37 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: will be on the sideline of the Evangelical Christian School 38 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Eagles football team because he coaches with them, and I 39 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: will be on the other sideline of the Middle College 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Bulldogs because we actually play against one another. 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: And if that isn't enough, the uh, one. 42 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Of the last times Max and I were on this 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: very field, one of the more traumatic things to ever 44 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: happen in both of our lives happened on that So 45 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of a full circle moment, which I think 46 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: has some lessons to it. So Shop Talk number sixty 47 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: nine is me and Max coaching against each other, coming 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: full circle in our lives. Right after these brief messages 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: from our general sponsors. 50 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back here by shop Talk number sixty nine. 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: Me and Max. 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: What's up, dude? 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: What's up? 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: Dad? Y'all are going to beat us. You know that, right? 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: Geezer, Your players, your players know you're saying this. 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you know they're Let's be honest, we're 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: a very small, single a public school with not even 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: a tenth of the resources that a very dice middle 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: sized private school that Max coaches at has tons of resources, 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: beautiful fields, facilities, lots of coaches. 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: And Max Courtney. Well, and how many of y'all suit up? 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 4: What seventy sixty? We're sixty strong. 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, if we're thirty eight black. 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: Last year somebody posted this on Facebook. I was curious 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 5: that the number was right, like you middle college only 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 5: had like I think they said, like four or six 67 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: players or four or six something. 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how many players last year, twenty that 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: twenty six last year? We got thirty eight this year. 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: Okay. 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: That it also likes to slow the game down and 72 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: run a lot of eleven and twelve. So if he 73 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: slows the game down and he can figure out how 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: to take a lead into halftime, there might be a game. 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: But if he can't get out of the first core, 76 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: then yeah, we'll probably right. 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Clearly, if there were odds makers E see us would 78 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: probably be about a twenty point five, wouldn't you agree? 79 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: Seriously? 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, seventeen, I'd play sixteen and a half. 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, here it is. 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: I coached my kid his whole life, brought him up, 83 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: taught him how to be a good young man and 84 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: a good football coach, and now he's going to use 85 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: all that to beat his dad's. 86 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: Friends in tonight. 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: Have you guys ever coached together. 88 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Actually, I've helped him out when he was a 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator at Saint Benedict, I just helped him a little. 90 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: And then when I coached down at Ole Miss and 91 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: the charity ball, he coached with me and helped me 92 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: down there. So we've coached together kind of, but never 93 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: really for a full official year. But hopefully one day 94 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: that'll happen. That'd be fun. But today we're coaching against 95 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: each other. That's interesting, that's great, and I hope they 96 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: take it easy on dad and his small group of 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: kids just trying to play a little football. 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: But here's the real twist of events. 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: On this very field that we'll be playing on tonight, 100 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: which is the CS home field, the first game I 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: ever coached on that field because I once coached for ECS, 102 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the very team that Max coaches for now, and we're 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: about to play against I want coach free CS. When 104 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Max played for them and we were playing briercrest Our 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: very first game, and Max running around doing what he does, 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: and he got hurt. And Max is one that has 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: never really stayed dumb long. Even when he's hurt. He'll 108 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: whine a lot on the sideline, but he never likes 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: to do it on the field. And he got hurt, 110 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: and I could tell he was hurt because of how 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: slow he got up, and he never gets up slow 112 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: when he played, and he trotted off the sideline and 113 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: he could see in his face he was hurting, and 114 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: like a play later, he grabs his helmet. He starts 115 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: to run back on the field and the team doc said, no, 116 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: he's out. 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: I need to look get him longer. 118 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: And probably six or seven plays later they came and said, listen, 119 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: Mix's ribs are bruised. 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: He's in a lot of playing. He can't really. 121 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: Put much weight on that side of his body. We're 122 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: taking a helmet. He's done, which is frustrating one as 123 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: a dad, you don't want your kid hurt. But two 124 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: as a coach, mix started on both sides of the ball, 125 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: and he was free safety and Brocrest threw a lot. 126 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: We really needed him in the game, and he was 127 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: out and I kind of looked at him over my 128 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: shoulder when they told me that, and he was in pain, 129 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: you could tell, but he was also pissed because he 130 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: wanted to go play. He didn't want to sit on 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: the sideline. He was both hurting and frustrated, and I thought, well, 132 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: that's okay. Then a few plays later, maybe five minutes, 133 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: not much longer, the guy came back. The team doc 134 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: came back and he said, Bill, listen. He said, they're bruised, 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: but just had'm an abundance of caution. I really think 136 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: instead of waiting after the game to get a Max raid, 137 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: we had to take him now. 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow. 139 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: They said, it's just a lot of pain and a 140 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of swelling pretty quickly, and I don't think anything's wrong, 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, I want him to go on 142 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: to the hospital now, just in case. And so I'm 143 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: coaching a football game and Lisa's where she's always seated 144 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: with Molly and Will, Max's older brother and sister. And 145 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: they tell Lisa Max gag of the hospital, and so 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: they load Max up and leave, and halftime happens. We 147 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: come back out for the third quarter. Max is gone, 148 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, my brain's on football. 149 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: I think my kid's got bruised, maybe a broken ribe, 150 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: which is really sucking. Obviously I'm thinking about it. But 151 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: third quarter had just started and the team doc comes 152 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: to me with the trainer and with the assistant principal 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: of the school, which was weird. 154 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: They say, Bill, you got to go, and I'm like, 155 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: what do you mean? I got to go to the 156 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: football game going on out here? 157 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: They said you got to go because Max is on 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: a helicopter and I said, why is Max on a helicopter? 159 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: He said, they're flying them to the Region one Medical Center, 160 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the only TROME unit of its south and that's all 161 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I heard. And I said, what does that mean? And 162 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: they said, he's in trouble. And for the first time 163 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: in thirty three years, I left the sideline during a 164 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: football game. I ran to the locker room, got my 165 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: keys and hauled ass and literally it was thirty minute drive. 166 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: It's a long way to the trauma center, and I 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: was driving a million miles an hour, couldn't get anybody 168 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: on the cell phone, had no idea what was going on, 169 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: And I just pulled up to the curb outside the 170 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: Hospelpital with my flashers on, and literally Lisa was arriving, 171 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: or actually Lisa and the kids had just gotten there, 172 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: right in front of me, and they're walking down the sidewalk, 173 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: actually kind of running down the sidewalk, and I got 174 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: out and she just hugged me and she started bawling, 175 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: and I'm still not sure what's going on. And as 176 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: that's happening, a helicopter was landing on the top of 177 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: the hospital and Molly is bawling and says, that smacks 178 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: there he is, there, he is. And it took still 179 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: some time before I was finally taken into the hospital 180 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: and sat down and told what was really going on, 181 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: and then of course the kids, Will and Lisa was inconsolable. 182 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: But Molly and Will told me what happened in the 183 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: first hospital they took next to, which is Baptist Hospital, 184 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: and what happened on the way, And I think I'll 185 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: let Max tell that part of the story because I 186 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: wasn't there, and obviously you were. 187 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: Once I left the field, Mom was wading in the 188 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: parking lot of the school by the football field, and 189 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 4: I got in and we were going down down the 190 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: road and Mom unfortunately missed a left hand turn. Otherwise 191 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: I would have been to the No, no, this is 192 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: all true. It gets worse. And had that not happened, 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: I would have been in the hospital in about ten minutes, 194 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: and all of that probably would not have happened. But 195 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 4: Mom was nervous, so she kept driving straight and we 196 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: took a big, big loop, and part of that loop 197 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: was on the highway, and in Tennessee on the weekends 198 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: they do a lot of roadwork because there's not supposed 199 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: to be as many drivers. But we hit a huge 200 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: traffic jam, and Mom kept on trying to weave and 201 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 4: out of traffic to get there. But we sat on 202 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: the highway for probably twenty minutes. 203 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: And as this is going, you're starting into something. Yeah, 204 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: I got you. 205 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: And then while we were weaving in and out and 206 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: trying to get to the hospital is when I kind 207 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: of started, you know, losing consciousness, and you know, I 208 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: just turned to my mom. I said, Mom, you know, 209 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: we gotta we gotta hurry. Something's not right. Uh. And 210 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: by this point, the football game, all of that, you know, 211 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: my friends, the girlfriends and all that, none of that mattered. 212 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 4: I had, you know, I knew, I knew it was very, 213 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: very serious. And we eventually got got out of the 214 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: traffic jam and we pulled into Baptistee and I walked 215 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: into the to the straight up to the desk and 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: I said, hey, I'm Max. I'm from ECS. I think 217 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: the school called. And the lady was pretty nonchalant. She 218 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, yeah, it's okay, just go sit down. 219 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 2: Uh. 220 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: And by that time Mom and Molly and Will and 221 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: Maggie had had come in and then taking a seat. 222 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: So I went over to sitting next to them, and 223 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: it w wasn't five seconds later where I I felt, 224 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: you know, hey, you know something, something's bad about to happen. 225 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 4: So I got up out of my chair and I 226 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: walked over to the lady and I said, ma'am, you know, 227 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: I'm really in a lot of pain and something's not right. 228 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: And it was it was very shortly after that when 229 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: I collapse. 230 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: So they put him in a wheelchair outside in the 231 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: in the waiting room, said we're busy, just sit. 232 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: There and Uh. 233 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Will looks over and Will's describes Max as gray and 234 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: he collapses and they they scream at the lady behind 235 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: the desk who brings a nurse in. A nurse comes 236 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: out and says, oh my gosh. And they roll them 237 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: in to a room and uh, they put him on 238 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: the table and they put vitals on them, the you know, 239 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: the machine, and uh. 240 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: He was flatlined. He was gone. 241 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: Will describes it as the nurse literally said, oh shit, 242 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: hits a button and blue lights start flashing everywhere, and 243 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: in a matter of moments, there's ten people in the 244 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: room and they're resuscitating Max. They're feeling them full of blood, 245 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: they're filling full of plasma. Lisa passes out, Will starts 246 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: getting shaky. Max does come conscious briefly, and I think 247 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: you asked Molly to pray with you. 248 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: Didn't you. 249 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, once they got me stabilized, so to say, at Baptiste's, 250 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: and once I woke up at Baptiste I never lost 251 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: consciousness again until I went into surgery. But yeah, I 252 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 4: woke up. And the weird caveat of the story is 253 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: everyone always asked me what did you see? What did 254 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: you see? What did you see? And it's like nothing, 255 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: there is nothing. 256 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 257 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: And I've told you Dad. But you know, it was 258 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: very weird. It was very calm, it was very peaceful. 259 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: And the easiest way to describe it was that I 260 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: was that I knew, I knew I was gone. I 261 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: didn't you know know what that looks like. I didn't 262 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: know what that was. I just knew that, you know. 263 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: I don't want to say I knew that I had died, 264 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: because that's so dramatic, but I knew I was not 265 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: not there anymore. And yes, when I woke up, I 266 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: looked at Molly and I said, Molly, what the world 267 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: just happened? And she said, you just died? And I said, 268 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: will you please pray? And that's when Molly and I 269 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: started praying. And then like two minutes after that, the 270 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: operations person from the hospital came in and Will had 271 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: to sign off on me getting on a. 272 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: Helicopter because Lisa was still in there, because Mom, she was. 273 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: Passed out in the hallway. 274 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you told the story before I did, you 275 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 5: didn't mention that Lisa part. 276 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, she passed out painted and then uh, Will, at 277 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: the time, I was seventeen, so Will was eighteen. That's 278 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: why he can sign them. 279 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 280 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: Uh and then yeah, and then we I woke up. 281 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: Molly and I were praying and the hospital guy came 282 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: in and said, you know, we can't handle this. We're 283 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: gonna airlift you. And then uh, Mom, Maggie, Will and 284 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: Molly all piled up and they left, and then the uh, 285 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: the nurses and everything got me, you know, squared away 286 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: to go on the helicopter. Uh. And I'll never forget 287 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: the lady, the flight nurse, she just you know, it 288 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: was very very professional, very calming, and she strapped me 289 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: up and got me loaded onto the helicopter and she 290 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: just asked me, she said, baby knows, there is there 291 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: anything I can do for you? Is anything wrong? I 292 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: just said, you know, I'm in a still in a 293 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: whole bunch of pain. Still, I haven't gotten any medicine. 294 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: So she she hooks me up on an IV, got 295 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: me squared away, and you know, I'll never forget that. 296 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: That three minute helicopter ride. 297 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: It was. 298 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. 299 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: It was pretty cool, pretty cool cool. It was pretty cool. Yeah. 300 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, adds insurance cover this free helicopter. 301 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: So Max lands on the helicopter. We still haven't seen him. 302 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: Lisa and I are pulled into this kind of weird 303 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: room and in the trauma center, and they tell us 304 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: the surgeon's going to be in to explain briefly, and 305 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: evidently they'd done it seems like it was five seconds, 306 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: but it must have been thirty minutes. But they'd evidently 307 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: done a lot of X rays and imaging on them 308 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: at some place, and the surgeon comes in. 309 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: Well, I got to so when they when we landed, 310 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: I went into shock trauma and the what do you 311 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 4: call it when a woman's pregnant and ultrasound. This ultrasound 312 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: lady came and she put the gel you know, on 313 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: on my chest inside and she was gonna do an ultrasound, 314 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: and she took the ultrasound scanning machine or whatever and 315 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: poked me in the side. And this second she poked me, 316 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: I grabbed her and like pushed her off of me, 317 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 4: and uh, because it hurts so bad. It hurts so bad. 318 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 4: And then she she kind of looked across the room 319 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: at a doctor and like nodded her head. And then 320 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: it was a minute later I went to get a 321 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: cat scan, and then after the cat scan, is when 322 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: they wheeled me into that triage room, which is where 323 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: you and Mom were waiting. And then that's when five 324 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: minutes later doctor Mack showed up. 325 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: All right. 326 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: So while all that's going on, Lisa and I are 327 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: just sitting around, and incomes the surgeon. And this guy's 328 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: gray headed, bearded, got kind of spiky hair, he's got 329 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: on rex bacs, he sleeved in tattoos from his wrist 330 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: up to his shoulders. He's probably fifty five years old. 331 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: He's got a watch tied to. 332 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: His drawstring, a Rolex tied to his draw. 333 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: String, and he's wearing as many girl changs as mister 334 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: T does. And I'm like, okay, well Max is going 335 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: to die. They run out of surgeons and they just 336 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: got some guy of the motor pool to fix them. 337 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, what is this guy ends up? 338 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: This guy's name is doctor Magnatty from Manhattan, moved he 339 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: moved to Memphis to be a level one trauma surgeon. 340 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: And he says, your son's spleen has exploded. He's got 341 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: at least two broken ribs, one of his lungs has collapsed, 342 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: and he is in very serious condition. But I'm going 343 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: to save his life. And he turns and walks out, 344 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: and as he's walking out, Lisa says, can we see him? 345 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: And he said, sure, come on, And that's what Max's 346 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: talking about. When he was rolled in, we were there. 347 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: We got to touch him, love him, hug him, kiss him, 348 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: tell him we loved him for about thirty seconds and 349 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: he was gone. And Max's body, at that time, at 350 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: his age in size, had the equivalent of whatever however 351 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: much blood is in a unit. 352 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: He had six units. 353 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: His body volume was six units of blood, and they 354 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: transfused over fifteen units into him. He had enough blood 355 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: to bleed out four lifetimes because his spleen exploded and 356 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: all of the blood in his body was pooling in 357 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: his gut. And doctor Magnotty took out ninety five percent 358 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: of his spleen and pumped up his lungs and. 359 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: Couldn't do much for his ribs. And Max lived and 360 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: then stayed a weak in intensive care, and then spent 361 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: five days in intensive care, and then literally. 362 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: A week after that, walked out of the hospital very 363 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: gingerly with bags full of pain meds and everything else. 364 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: And my son's life was saved, yep. 365 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 4: And I showed up to the next game that Friday. 366 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: Week later he did. 367 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: He showed up on the sideline to the next game. 368 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: So the point to all of that story is three things. 369 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: It's a worn out old adage, but guys, everybody listened 370 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: to me. Take it from a dad you never know. 371 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Tell him you love him, and kiss him and hold 372 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: him every single night, no matter how frustrated you are, 373 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: no matter how long your day's been, no matter what 374 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: you're up against. You know, my son was running up 375 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: and down the sidelines, one of the most healthy kids 376 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: you've ever seen, playing football, and literally twenty four hours 377 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: later he had tubes in his nose and in his 378 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: gut and all over him and couldn't even lift his 379 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: head up in a hospital but and flatlined. So the 380 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: truth is life is short. You never know, and you 381 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: never know when your time's coming and when it's not. 382 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: So those that are closest to you and you love 383 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: you need to always remember that it really could be 384 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: the last time you ever see him. Don't take the 385 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: time you have with those you love for granted. Second 386 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: thing is I believe in the power of prayer, and 387 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: there was a lot of prayer around Max that day 388 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: and that night and from himself off and I am 389 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: unbelievably and thankful to my Lord that my son is 390 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: still with us. And then the third thing is tonight 391 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: will be a weird night for me. I'm going to 392 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 1: take a football team that I've worked with since March 393 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: and try to take them out there and beat a 394 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: team that my kid once went to school for. My 395 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: kid is coaching against me on the sideline, and many 396 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: of the coaches on the ECS sideline I've coached with 397 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: both at e CS and at St. George's, and it 398 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: will be weird coaching against my friends, although I'm going 399 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: to coach as hard as I can to beat their 400 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: ass because that's what I want to do. Although we 401 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: are a seventeen to twenty point underdog, We're going to 402 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: do as best we can. But the weirdest thing is 403 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: the first time I ever coached on that very field 404 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: was the very night we're talking about, and now we 405 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: come full circle these years later, and my son and 406 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: I are going to be on that same field again 407 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: tonight coaching against each other. So the third thing is 408 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: you never know how life will come full circle and 409 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: what it'll bring you. But tonight will be full of 410 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: gut riching memories, but really happy celebrations that it started 411 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: the way it did and will end tonight. 412 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: The way it is. 413 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: So full of gratitude for the game of football, full 414 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: of thanks for my son's life, and full of excitement 415 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: for tonight because for me, it is a full circle 416 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: moment with my son who I once lost almost on 417 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: that very field. 418 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: So it's a lot to reflect on it. 419 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: What about you, dude, Yeah, I mean I think I 420 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 4: think you know from your perspective, that's that was probably 421 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: a scary night. There's probably a lot that you know, 422 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 4: you learned from. 423 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: Uh. 424 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: You know, one thing that you know we've talked about 425 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 4: in private, and I'll share it today is I think 426 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: you know the irony in it and for everyone else 427 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: who's listening to understand the true full circle. I was 428 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 4: very difficult when I, you know, came up. Uh didn't 429 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: didn't listen? Well, UH did did pretty much whatever the hell? 430 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: Whatever the hell. I felt like I made a lot 431 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: of poor decisions. But I was not easy by by 432 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: any means. And Dad and I were, you know, although 433 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 4: I was playing at e c S and he was 434 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: coaching at e c S. In a lot of ways. 435 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 4: We are on very different sidelines that night. 436 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 437 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 4: And you know, as as you know, time wears on 438 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: and and you know, people grow mature. We we have 439 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: ended up spiritual and morally on the same sideline, even 440 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: though he is at middle college and I'm at ECS. 441 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: In my mind, it's more like a two hundred and 442 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: seventy degree turn because once the full circle happens, Dad 443 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: and I will will be on the same sideline physically, 444 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: emotionally and spiritually. 445 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. It's kind of cool. That's beautiful, Max. 446 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: That's more beautiful than anything you said. 447 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you always whence kids would be better 448 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: than you. So there you have it. 449 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure you were partially inspired to coach because 450 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 5: your dad. 451 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. I mean, you know, if if you don't 452 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: play football, you can't you can't possibly understand. But a 453 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: common struggle bonds people, and and football is a very 454 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 4: tough sport. It's a hard sport. It hurts. There's a 455 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: lot of mental game in there that people just don't realize. 456 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: And I had the opportunity to learn from Dad, from 457 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: men like David Carter and Ben Todd. 458 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: Just guys who currently coach at ECS that I coached 459 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: with at Saint George's. 460 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: Ironically an unbelievable amount of football wealth that I picked 461 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: up and that I know. And I was a defensive 462 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: coordinator for a small private school here in Memphis in 463 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. We weren't any good, didn't do anything 464 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: worth talking about. But the fact that I was twenty 465 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: two years old and was able to coordinate a four 466 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: to three with multiple fronts is straight up a reflection 467 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: of how good of a coach those guys at Saint 468 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: George's were. They've just they've bestowed them upon me the 469 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: game when what I've had to learn over the last 470 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: couple of years and in my absence from twenty twenty 471 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: two to twenty you know, was at twenty twenty five 472 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: now is one how much I missed the game and 473 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 4: how much I needed the game in my life. You know, 474 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: there's an old adage around the game that if you 475 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: let it, you know, football can save your life. And 476 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: it's you know, Dad and I will will make jokes 477 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: all the time, you know, whether it's in business or something. 478 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 4: Let's say someone makes a good play, you know I'll 479 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: look at him and say that that that you know, 480 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: that guy did a really good job set in the 481 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: edge there or something like that. There's just so much 482 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: in football that can be translated to life. And you 483 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: know Dad said it before. I think he said in 484 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 4: his book. But if you can if you can run 485 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: and operate a football team, you can run and operate 486 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: a business, you can run and operate a family. You 487 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: can you know, run an operate a community, a church. 488 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 4: Anything that's fruitful really is rooted in football. 489 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 3: Yep, I'd had a fourth and a fifth thing. Give 490 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: blood go. 491 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: That's where max here, That's where Maxi's story came up. 492 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 5: Before we were talking about blood a little bit, we 493 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 5: did a longer. 494 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: Person what's up? Maybe you've listened to this, but do 495 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: you know. 496 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: There's almost its own most impossibility that a human being 497 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: on the face of the planet will not need blood 498 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: at some point or another in their life. If you 499 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: have cancer, you gotta have blood. Once you're older and 500 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: need little surgeries, you got to have blood. God forbids 501 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: something like what happened to you. You need blood. So 502 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of people on the face of planet, 503 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: by the time they die, will have needed blood, and 504 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: certainly everyone close to them will have needed blood. Do 505 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: you know what percent of the public gives blood? 506 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: I'd say seven percent. 507 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: That's a double it's three wow. One hundred percent of 508 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: the people on the face of planet are going to 509 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: need blood, yet only three percent give it, which means 510 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: that ninety seven percent of the people, as it pertains 511 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: to their need for blood, are mootures. 512 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: Though about only forty eligible. The eligible numbers are below 513 00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: the population. 514 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: I can give the ninety seven percent. 515 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: They don't even get checked to see if they're eligible 516 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: or not. 517 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: But the point is of. 518 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: Forty is still not good. 519 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: We talk about an army and normal folks doing what 520 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: you can do. Giving blood or plateless is something the 521 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: vast majority of us can do, and most of us 522 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: don't even try, although we or someone we dearly love 523 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: that is very close to us is absolutely with one 524 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: hundred percent certainty and probability going to need blood. 525 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: So we take, but we don't give. That's selfish. 526 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: So point four give blood because if somebody had not 527 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: given blood, my son wouldn't. 528 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Be here talking to me today because he would have 529 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: bled out. 530 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: Guess to gave blood last week? 531 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: You did? 532 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: You did this guy? 533 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: For you? 534 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: John Normanoy there you get. I was always afraid of needles. 535 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: But John John Norman Max's is one of our listeners 536 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: who is now been a guest because he's given. 537 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: Plasmover one hundred and sixty times. 538 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 539 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's so cool because like you sit in 540 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 5: a chair for ninety minutes and you can save three 541 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: people's lives, and like he can be on his phone 542 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: doing it. 543 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: Literally, it's not that hard. 544 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: Ninety minutes of plasma saves three people's lives within a week. 545 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: When I was when I was nineteen and super poor 546 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: and in school, Uh, my roommate and Buddy Gray Clark 547 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: and I yeah, we damn here, we damn near did 548 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: it for beer money. I don't know why we didn't followed. 549 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: Well Number five. 550 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: Actually, I just saw this on social media this week. 551 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 5: Have you guys heard of the halo effect? No, So 552 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 5: it's like two people who are dressed uh differently, like 553 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: if they have the same credentials, Like if somebody's dressed better, 554 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 5: they're trusted more despite having the same credentials. Cody Sanchez 555 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: actually was talking about this recently too, that. 556 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: Like people must really not trust me at all. 557 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: I was going to say you're trying to get down 558 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: to wear a collared shirt, we're going. 559 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: To talk about your magnatty guy. 560 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 5: So actually, Cody Sanchez said the other day something like 561 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: women who wear makeup make like twenty to thirty percent 562 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 5: more or two. But this guy was making the point that, look, 563 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 5: if you have two qualified surgeons the exact same credentials, 564 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 5: you actually want the guy who looks like you're magnety 565 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 5: guy because he's got through more shit to get there. 566 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: Ironically enough, that is true. 567 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: His father hung sheet rock and wallpaper in Manhattan, and 568 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: they grew up very blue collar New Jersey folks, and 569 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: he worked his ass off to get where he was 570 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: and is now one of the most respected, foremost thought 571 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: about trauma surgeons on the face of the planet, and 572 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: we got lucky to have him. 573 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: He since moved to Phoenix. 574 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: But to wrap this story up, that all happened Max's 575 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: junior year, and he rehabbed and ended up playing baseball 576 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: later that spring. Although he wasn't full speed, he played, 577 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: and then by a senior he was ready to go again. 578 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: And Max's got a scar from his navel up to 579 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: his chest. 580 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: I mean they cut him wide. 581 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Over and of course Max said, I don't want the 582 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: last time I ever stepped on a football field to 583 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: be that night. I want to play again, much to 584 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: Lisa's chagrin, who wasn't having it anyway. Max stayed very 585 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: close to doctor Macnaughty, as did our entire family because 586 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: we see him as the man that gave us our 587 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: sunback and Max played football again. And the very first 588 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: game that Max played, while I coached on the sideline 589 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: coaching my kid his senior year and Lisa in the 590 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: stands about to throw up all over herself. The person 591 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: that joined her to calm her was the same guy 592 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: that convinced her it was okay. And doctor Magnatty took 593 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: the day off that Friday night and sat with Lisa 594 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: in the stands as Max played his first football game 595 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: and celebrated my son playing football and kept my wife 596 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: from losing her mind. And we have since become very 597 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: close friends with the whole Magnaughty family because he is 598 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: not only a surgeon and not only a doctor, but 599 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: he's a good man to do something like that. 600 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: Just another member of an army in almost folks. 601 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: I have one more and it goes along with the 602 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 4: what was your first lesson. 603 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: The first thing I got from this was never always 604 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: I love you before, because you never know. 605 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: So that the night that I was hurt, and this 606 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: was surgery night. Uh, and this was this is also 607 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: a pretty good one, Alex. She may not even know this, 608 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: but my defensive coordinator's name was Brandon Tucker. He's one 609 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 4: of the most knowledgeable and godly men I've ever met 610 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: in my entire life. 611 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 5: He showed up in one of our episodes. Did you 612 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 5: really you must not listen to the podcast. I don't know, 613 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 5: I don't showed up in the Briarcress episode. 614 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did a upsote of Briercrest and actually in 615 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: the class of people were in viewing was his son, 616 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: who is a heck of a quarterback. 617 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: I think he just thumped y'all a few weeks ago. 618 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: Get there. 619 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then coach Tucker showed up. I actually talked 620 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: to him yesterday. 621 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: So Coach Tucker, he was. 622 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: At that time, was coaching Max at ECS and he 623 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: and I were coaching defense together. 624 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: Yes, so he was. He was the defensive balls. He 625 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 4: was my defensive coach, and he was actually the last 626 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 4: person to come in my room the night that I 627 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: was hurt and most people where you know, Hey, Max, 628 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 4: you know you're gonna get better, You're gonna get back 629 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: out there. You know things are going to be good. 630 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: You know, try and encourage me. Blah blah blah. And 631 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 4: Coach Tucker he came in and you know, he wasn't reserved, 632 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 4: but he was very cautious, I would say. And he 633 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 4: just looked at me and he said, Max. He said, 634 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 4: I've known you for you know, a couple of months, 635 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: but you know this is a terrible thing, but I 636 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 4: just have to ask you some And I said, yes, sir, 637 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 4: what is it? And he said, is it well with 638 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 4: your soul? And that question has has suck with me 639 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: for I mean every single day since I think about 640 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: that question, and my my soul at the time was 641 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 4: not well. And I credit him in that question for 642 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: for changing the course of my life because that thought, 643 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: that question had never entered my mind. And to this 644 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 4: day I keep up with Coach Tucker. Like I said, 645 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 4: He's the most knowledgeable and godly man that I've ever met. 646 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: And it was my dad just said three weeks ago. 647 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 4: The last time E. C. S Had played Briar Crest 648 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: was when I got hurt. And we resumed the series 649 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: this year and Coach Tucker was the defensive coordinator at 650 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 4: Briar Crest this year, so that also came full circa 651 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 4: line coach. He's the line coach, but coach and now 652 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: he's at he's at Briar Crest. So the moral of 653 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 4: that whole full circle moment is if you know, if 654 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 4: it's not, you know, you have to ask yourself, is 655 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 4: it well with your soul? 656 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: Because you never know, because you never know. 657 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: Man, you're well spoken, Max. I'm glad we did appreciate that. 658 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: Out Let them have a podcast. I can go give 659 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 2: them a podcast. 660 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 3: Podcast with your kids would be a lot of fun. 661 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 4: I guess we need to get the six together and duke. 662 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: It out, all right, guys, So that's it Shop Talk 663 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: number sixty nine. 664 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: Make sure you hug them at night. 665 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Make sure it's well with your soul, because you really 666 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: never know, and life will throw you twist and turns 667 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: and always also sometimes come back full circle. And for 668 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: me and my kid and my family at about four nights, 669 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: we will complete one of life's full circles. If you 670 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: like this episode, please rate and view it, subscribe to 671 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: the podcast. You can help me mail me anytime at 672 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,959 Speaker 1: Bill at normal folks dot us. If you have any 673 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: ideas for guests for them Army and Normal Folks, or 674 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: ideas for shop Talk, please email me. 675 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: I will respond. We'll take them up. 676 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: Sign up to join the Army in Normal Folks though US. 677 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: That's right, and until next time, do what you can, 678 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: do what you can. That's Shop Talk number sixty nine. 679 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.