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Speaker 3: All right, So.

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Speaker 2: We talked a little bit yesterday about the Jaden Daniels injury,

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Speaker 2: the dislocated elbow. He's out indefinitely, and the u S

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Speaker 2: afterwards was about, you know, why was he in the

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Speaker 2: game at that point, and you know, should he been

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Speaker 2: taken out of the game earlier with it being such

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Speaker 2: a wipeout and risking his health, et cetera, et cetera. Well,

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Speaker 2: Dan Quinn, the Commander's head coach, UH spoke yesterday and

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Speaker 2: accepted responsibility for that decision.

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Speaker 4: I know many of you have been asking about the

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Speaker 4: thought process of Jaden being in the game in that situation.

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Speaker 5: I get that.

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Speaker 4: I've been thinking about honestly NonStop too. And you know,

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Speaker 4: for me, the answer is, Man, I missed it, but

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Speaker 4: I would you know, I'll fill you on my thought process.

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Speaker 4: At the start of the fourth core, I guess it

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Speaker 4: was probably like twelve and a half minutes left in

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Speaker 4: the game, and that was gonna be the last drive

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Speaker 4: for a couple of guys Jayden and Zach and Debo

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Speaker 4: and LT and so we're gonna have any read run

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Speaker 4: plays and meaning no carries, you know for the quarterback

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Speaker 4: on a run. And honestly, man, that's where I missed it.

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Speaker 4: Of course he could scramble.

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Speaker 5: It's Jaden.

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Speaker 4: It's what he's special at. And that is one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent that's on me.

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Speaker 6: So that's what he's specialized scrambling. Well, yeah, to me,

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Speaker 6: that's the bigger that's the bigger point of all of this.

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Speaker 6: You don't need to take the blame for a player

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Speaker 6: that got injured doing what they're special at doing what

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Speaker 6: am I And I get the conventional wisdom of saying, Okay,

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Speaker 6: the game's out of reach, like pull your starters out.

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Speaker 6: I get that, but he didn't. He played his starters like.

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Speaker 6: It's always going to be an easy point of reference

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Speaker 6: and contention if something like this happens. Like, but I mean,

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Speaker 6: the man's a coach. He's got to coach his team.

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Speaker 7: And so so let me ask you this because this

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Speaker 7: was kind of what like went through my head watching it.

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Speaker 7: And then even though as you talked a little bit

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Speaker 7: about yesterday, we didn't have time to fully discuss, just discuss,

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Speaker 7: but we talk about taking out your starters. You can

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Speaker 7: only take out so many like we do this in

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Speaker 7: preseason two. Will react like, oh, yeah, the backups are

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Speaker 7: all in. Well, okay, your roster size is a bit

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Speaker 7: bigger then, But once you get to the regular season.

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Speaker 5: Dude, you dressed forty six. You can't pull everyone.

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Speaker 7: There's not some sort of whole change like all the

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Speaker 7: backups are in, Like, you don't dress that many guys.

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Speaker 5: So I do wonder as a head coach when you look.

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Speaker 7: At where Washington's been, where they've struggled offensively, and some

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Speaker 7: people had said, well, maybe there's the thought of trying

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Speaker 7: to get them into a rhythm, or maybe there's the

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Speaker 7: thought of just trying to get him one decent series,

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Speaker 7: get a touchdown, and try to get something going out

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Speaker 7: of that game because they played so poorly. But I

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Speaker 7: also wonder, like in the locker room, you got other

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Speaker 7: starters who are going to sit in there and have

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Speaker 5: Out the game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, hu, Like, how do you view it, like if

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Speaker 7: your starter comes out, how does your mindset change? Because now,

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Speaker 7: need to protect myself to make sure I get out

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Speaker 7: white towel, but I'm still out here.

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Speaker 6: You're told to fight for sixty minutes, you're told to

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Speaker 6: lock in and dial in. If we were to look

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Speaker 6: and teams were getting beat by multiple possessions. How many

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Speaker 6: of those quarterbacks finished the game. You know, it's so

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Speaker 6: easy to stop and flash a big light on, oh

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Speaker 6: my gosh, this coach left their player in. He ends

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Speaker 6: up getting hurt. What are you doing? You should have

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Speaker 6: pulled him out? Like, look around the league. How many

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks that had two possession games, two possession leads, you know,

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Speaker 6: deficits that they had to overcome, finished out the game.

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Speaker 6: I don't think we need to even overthink it, the

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Speaker 6: idea of saying, oh, you should have pulled them, you

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Speaker 6: should have pulled him, Like it's season.

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Speaker 2: We're in season. He's playing the game and he hasn't

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Speaker 2: played that much.

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Speaker 6: I don't even care if he hasn't If anything, if

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Speaker 6: he hasn't played that much, I'm be like, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 6: he's tired. Let me give him, let me give him

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Speaker 8: But if he's up and.

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Speaker 6: Running and he's full go, why would you, as a

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Speaker 6: coach even give that too much thought of We're going

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Speaker 6: from whistle to whistle for four quarters. It's the regular season,

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Speaker 6: it's not preseason. So why do why do I have

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Speaker 6: to be scrutinized? I mean, you get why scrutinized. It's

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Speaker 6: the profession, it's part of it. But you don't have

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Speaker 6: you didn't have anybody else coming out in rage. Oh

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Speaker 6: my gosh, they had the starter in at the end

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Speaker 6: of the game and they weren't. They clearly had no

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Speaker 6: chance of winning the game.

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Speaker 2: Well, remember it was Carson Wentz last week who defended

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Speaker 2: the Vikings and defended Kevin O'Connell and them and said, no,

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Speaker 2: they did not. This is not on them. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to stay in the game. I knew what the risk

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Speaker 2: that comes along with this. It was my choice to

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Speaker 2: he's clearly in pain. Why is he still out there?

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Speaker 2: And then he ends up having season ending surgery, you

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Speaker 2: know the a few days later. The part that bugs

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Speaker 2: me about this, and I'm not surprised to.

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Speaker 6: Say what My next point was, I hope you say

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Speaker 6: what I think it is good, well and say it

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Speaker 6: with your chest. Well, yeah, it's not going to be

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Speaker 6: what I'm pretty sure I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: Dan Quinn basically caved to the soft narrative that was

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Speaker 2: put out because of Jaden Daniels injury. Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: like the fact that dan Quinn had to come out.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not surprised because I know he's a stand

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Speaker 2: that he came out and accepted responsibility for a quarterback

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Speaker 2: getting injured in an NFL game, why, because people were asking, well,

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Speaker 2: what is he still doing in there? Well, he hasn't

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Speaker 2: played that much. They're trying to get some sort of

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Speaker 2: a rhythm on offense. I know it's a blowout, but

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Speaker 2: he's got to get some reps and he's gotta he's

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Speaker 2: got to get back into the swing of things somehow.

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Speaker 2: Marshawn Lattimore LeVar brought this up yesterday he tore his

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Speaker 2: a cl I mean, is that dan Quinn's fault too,

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Speaker 2: like it is our guys getting injured in the fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter of games that are out of reach. Is that

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Speaker 2: the coach's fault because they get injured or is that

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Speaker 2: just the fact that it's football. It's it's basic sanction

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Speaker 2: violence and you're gonna fall and land awkwardly from time

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Speaker 2: to time and bad things are going to happen. The

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Speaker 2: fact that dan Quinn had to come out and apologize

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Speaker 2: and accept respond or take responsibility. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: as a Hey, if you uh, if you talk loud

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Speaker 2: enough and you uh and you make enough noise, he's

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Speaker 2: going to cave to the narratives out there and have

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Speaker 2: to speak on it.

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Speaker 6: Outre Can I ask you guys, one serious question. Absolutely

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Speaker 6: not okay, never mind rum skin Okay. Why is there

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Speaker 6: no scrutiny on the decision making of Jaydon Daniels in

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Speaker 6: this situation the game is out of reach? Yeah, you

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Speaker 6: clearly cannot win the game. That's that's the narrative that

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Speaker 6: that is driving the outrage and the backlash of the

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Speaker 6: decision making of the head coach because.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't play hard, then he gets the Cam

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Speaker 2: Newton treatment and he never lives down the fashion.

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Speaker 6: So if he throws the ball away, I'm if he

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Speaker 6: if he throws the ball away or hands the ball off,

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Speaker 6: because if I recall my recollection from what dan Quinn said,

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Speaker 6: it was usually he hands the ball off in this

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Speaker 6: throwing it to the flat, he can easily throw it away.

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Speaker 6: It's garbage time, hand the ball off. I don't care

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Speaker 6: if you lose five yards running hand the hand the

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Speaker 7: I get it, like I understand what you're saying, and

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Speaker 7: I think that comes with playing more and like time

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Speaker 7: live to play the next down, because you will not

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Speaker 7: survive if you keep trying to play outside the pocket

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Speaker 7: for so many plays. Eventually you'll get hurt, either via

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Speaker 7: or side, whatever the case is. Bad things happen outside

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Speaker 7: it changes. But eventually that comes. The hard thing about

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Speaker 7: what you're saying, LeVar is you don't want to take

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Speaker 7: out that competitiveness in him. And again he hasn't played

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Speaker 7: from both sides, But I do hate the fact.

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Speaker 8: That upset at No. I don't know, and I'm not

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Speaker 8: I'm not attacked Jaydeon Daniels for it.

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Speaker 6: All I'm saying is is if it was clearly important

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Speaker 6: enough for Jaydon Daniels to scramble and pull the ball

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Speaker 6: down in that minute in his mind to create what

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Speaker 6: he was going to create, what do people have a

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Speaker 6: problem for, Like, I haven't heard one person really sit

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Speaker 6: there and be like, why do he pull the ball

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Speaker 6: down and start scrambling. It's not that it's his fault,

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Speaker 6: it's you don't have to come up with justification.

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Speaker 8: He was doing his job.

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Speaker 3: It's nobody's fault he was doing it.

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Speaker 5: It's just football. It's what I said yesterday. It's it's football.

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Speaker 7: We can dissect this whole decision from Dan Quinn, from

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Speaker 7: Jane Daniels.

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Speaker 9: It's football. Correct injuries happened, correct injuries are gonna happen,

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Speaker 9: and that's unfortunate that it happened. It was grotesque, it

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Speaker 9: was upsetting to watch it take place. It's your franchise, guy.

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Speaker 8: I get it. But if that, like we said, you

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Speaker 8: said Marshaun Lattimore, if.

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Speaker 6: That was any other player on that field doesn't get

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Speaker 8: If that's the case, and then you'll wonder why.

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Speaker 6: The culture is And then you heard Dak Prescott touching

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Speaker 6: These guys used to go out after games, smoke jacks together,

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Speaker 8: Get them in.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's the local police officer. He drops both of

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Speaker 8: There was an unwritten.

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Speaker 6: of the game. Not to tear them down, Not to

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Speaker 8: Apologize, that's not what this is for. You know what

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Speaker 6: This is a team that was one game away from

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Speaker 8: The Clearly the approach.

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Speaker 6: That dan Quinn has brought to a team that has

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Speaker 6: it's clearly something that's working. Focus in on. Okay, it's

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Speaker 6: unfortunate that he got hurt, But dan Quinn, this new

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Speaker 3: Why do you think.

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Speaker 6: Dan Quinn did it? What do you guy have to

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Speaker 6: that's the way they bro They like the only the

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Speaker 8: I've seen it firsthand. I lived in it. I was

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Speaker 6: They covered the Washington football team like they covered the

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Speaker 8: Next please hell hello everyone, Hello, Hello, good evening to

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Speaker 7: He's the chair of the Talking Smack hit Stick Talking Committee.

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Speaker 6: I would certainly never go into the details of the

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Speaker 7: One of the most disheartening things as a competitor, though,

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Speaker 5: It's it's terrible to be playing out of the game

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Speaker 7: It's like, you know, like you're watching this this death

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Speaker 5: You can't stop it. There's nothing you can do about it.

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Speaker 7: And like I remember we played Baltimore on Monday Night

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Speaker 5: I'm like, do not try to extend this.

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Speaker 7: And sure enough, like it was one of those kind

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Speaker 6: At the where he got like put to sleep. Now,

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Speaker 8: There was another one.

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Speaker 7: But I just remember like the whole play playing out,

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Speaker 5: You lose one of your best players.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, you know who knows, you know how

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Speaker 5: And like it wasn't necessary. We could have just ran

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Speaker 7: And I kept thinking in my head, I should just

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Speaker 6: That's gonna involve like his job and all of that.

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Speaker 5: And when you lose, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, there's always gonna be

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Speaker 5: It's always gonna be about how you lost everything else.

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Speaker 7: I can't tell you how many times we won and

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Speaker 7: I came back like, yeah, but I should have done this,

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Speaker 5: This, and the media never asked about it.

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Speaker 7: They don't ask about those like critical mistakes you actually

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Speaker 7: And so that's the hard part about even this whole,

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Speaker 7: there's always gonna be a critical angle and no matter what,

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Speaker 10: Why?

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Speaker 5: Why don't you pull all the guys out?

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Speaker 7: You know what, why don't you just ask the end

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Speaker 7: You know, it's like it's like you're in such a

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Speaker 6: Scenario you can't win. You shouldn't have to tell your kid.

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Speaker 8: You'll burn your hand.

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Speaker 6: You shouldn't have to tell your kids things that common

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Speaker 6: basically saying you need a handler. We're I mean, we

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Speaker 6: not ever, not any time period. And that's the end

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Speaker 8: He did it.

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Speaker 6: He pulled the ball down, started moving, moving out of

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Speaker 8: He got caught. Done. Case closed.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to sit there and act like a

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Speaker 8: Okay, it's your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I get that, no shade, but I'm just saying, handing

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Speaker 8: So what?

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Speaker 10: What? Like?

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Speaker 8: Routine play shouldn't even be a conversation.

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Speaker 6: And then you're right, Jonas, he should not have come

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Speaker 6: He said, what fifty times out of fifty times you

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Speaker 6: run this play? It's a handoff four throw. Come on, man,

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Speaker 6: Throw to the flat, which is quick. Throw to the flat,

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Speaker 6: which is quick. Same old commanders. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 6: it sounds like. At least they trying, they trying to

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the team who just decided, you know what,

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Speaker 2: we'll just have ourselves a good old fashioned fire sale.

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Speaker 2: And that team would be the awful New York Jets,

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Speaker 2: who decided to go ahead and trade cornerback Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 2: to the Colts in exchange for two first round picks

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven first round picks

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Speaker 2: and wide receiver ad Mitchell. So the two first round

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Speaker 2: picks and ad Mitchell go back to the Jets, Sauce

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Speaker 2: Gardner heads to the Colts, and then they decided we're

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Speaker 2: not done. They also decided to trade three time Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl defensive tap Quinn Williams to the Cowboys for a

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Speaker 2: second round pick in twenty twenty six and a first

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Speaker 2: round pick in twenty twenty seven, along with defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Mazzie Smith. And there you go. That's the New York

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Speaker 2: Jets in a nutshell. And this, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner side of things. Right after during the offseason,

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Speaker 2: they gave him and Garrett Wilson contract extensions to keep

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Speaker 2: them there as sort of the foundational pieces of the

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Speaker 2: franchise and organization.

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Speaker 8: Gohak you good.

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Speaker 7: Well, I was gonna ask you, I mean, doesn't this

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Speaker 7: kind of Is this a rebuttal to your comments about

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Speaker 7: Micah Parsons. Is Jerry Jones just throwing us right back

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Speaker 7: in your face?

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Speaker 10: Far?

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Speaker 8: I mean, you're trying to I think.

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Speaker 5: He heard you. He's attacking you.

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Speaker 8: He's going after Is he coming after me?

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Speaker 10: He might have heard us.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we are nationally syndicated show. People do listen

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Speaker 6: to us. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he

488
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Speaker 6: did hear us. But I mean that doesn't to me.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't change up how I felt about it or

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Speaker 6: how I feel about it. Like, listen, he's trying to

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Speaker 6: shore up the interior part of his line. He needs

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Speaker 6: a pass rush. Like I get it. You want to

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Speaker 6: stop the run, but you also need to be able

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Speaker 6: to get to the passer. And Quinnin is a fine

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Speaker 6: football player. He'll improve their their defensive front and it'll

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Speaker 6: improve their team. I think it's yet another another piece.

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Speaker 6: Strategically speaking, I can see that Jerry Jones is possibly

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Speaker 6: potentially him and Steven Jones are positioning themselves to be

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Speaker 6: able to get, you know, a pass rusher out of

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Speaker 6: the draft to go along with a strong interior. I

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Speaker 6: will say, if you got a dope interior line line,

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Speaker 6: a very very strong defensive tackle, three technique, zero techniques,

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Speaker 6: whatever it is, it definitely makes life easier on the

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Speaker 6: ends on the edges because you you have to use

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Speaker 6: multiple guys on the interior. I mean, you think about

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Speaker 6: that Tampa Bay team that had Simme and Rice and

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Speaker 6: and and guys like that on the defensive line. I

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Speaker 6: mean you had Booger McFarland Chidi Ahun two on the

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Speaker 6: other side. You but you have Booger McFarland and Warren

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Speaker 6: Sap on the inside. That's two formidable guys and it

511
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Speaker 6: always allowed for them to have that one on one

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Speaker 6: blocking scheme against them, which you're not going to block

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Speaker 6: a Simi and Rice, you know, by yourself. So maybe

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Speaker 6: that's the direction that that Jerry Jones is taking himself

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Speaker 6: in by doing what he's doing. But I like that

516
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Speaker 6: the Colts were aggressive on trying to shore up their

517
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Speaker 6: defense because they had the type of team that can

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Speaker 6: make a run. I like, in fact, as crazy as

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Speaker 6: it may sound, I like that if you're going to

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Speaker 6: declare that it's a rebuild, then what better way than

521
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Speaker 6: getting rid of two of your biggest players, most productive

522
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Speaker 6: players on a failing team to get more draft capital

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Speaker 6: to try to maybe start a rebuild. So I'm not

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Speaker 6: gonna I'm not going to take a negative approach on

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Speaker 6: New York. Maybe this sparks the beginning of a conversation

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Speaker 6: of a change, a change in philosophy, a change in

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Speaker 6: how they approach things as a culture. Maybe this signifies

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Speaker 6: the end of what was and the beginning of what

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Speaker 6: could be. Possibly I put.

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Speaker 5: It this way, I actually think it's how do I

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Speaker 5: say this?

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Speaker 7: I think I like it for the Dallas Cowboys because

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Speaker 7: it's a good, strong, aggressive move. Clearly they know their

534
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Speaker 7: defense is struggling. You go up, you get a linebacker,

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Speaker 7: and you trade to get Quinn Williams. You've already tried

536
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Speaker 7: to get Kenny Clark. They are a middle of the

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Speaker 7: pack team in regards to Sachs. Just if you look

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Speaker 7: at the numbers, think they're seventeenth in the league. You know, however,

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Speaker 7: they're their pressure percentage is actually higher than that. I

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Speaker 7: think they're like a top ten team, that's according to

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Speaker 7: if you're looking at PFF. But so I don't know

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Speaker 7: that the idea that they really need an edge r

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's the problem for them. I think

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Speaker 7: one of their biggest issues is like teams are just

545
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Speaker 7: able to do run throughat whatever they want, and I

546
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Speaker 7: think that's more of the issue with the defense right

547
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Speaker 7: now is they're allowing everyone to be balanced, and I

548
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Speaker 7: think they feel like if they stop the run or

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Speaker 7: do a better job of doing that, there's a better

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Speaker 7: chance that then they can actually, you know, get even

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Speaker 7: more pressure on opposing quarterbacks and more sacks. So I

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Speaker 7: don't I guess I like the fact that Jerry's trying

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Speaker 7: like this isn't a Dallas Cowboys team that's just gonna

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Speaker 7: be a bunch of hot air and talk like they're

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Speaker 7: making moves, they're trying. You look at the Colts as

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Speaker 7: you talked about, like the Colts feel like they're in

557
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Speaker 7: a window right now. That was a big time deal

558
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Speaker 7: when you look at what they've given up, you know,

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Speaker 7: two first round picks as well as Adie Mitchell, who

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Speaker 7: to me is a player who's got all the ability

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Speaker 7: in the world. And so for the Jets, they get

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Speaker 7: a guy who's got some to prove he's in a

563
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Speaker 7: new environment. You could be a nice compliment to Gara Wilson.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you legitimately could have two studs if you

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Speaker 7: can get Adie Mitchell mentally to be whereing he needs

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Speaker 7: to be, Like that's that's a big if because obviously

567
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Speaker 7: this team moved on ever since the fumblo out of

568
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Speaker 7: the end zone versus the ramps, Like that's the reality

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Speaker 7: of it. That play, that singular play, as incredible of

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Speaker 7: a catch and run as it was, that ended up

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Speaker 7: being kind of his last moment with the Colts and

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Speaker 7: they've been mentally moving on ever since.

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Speaker 5: And this is an example of that.

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Speaker 7: So you know, they go get a player in Sauce

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Speaker 7: Gardner who's going to be there for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 5: As Jonas mentioned, they just paid him.

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Speaker 7: They feel like they have a window of right now

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Speaker 7: where they're trying to go win something, and twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty seven. That's what that signified to me. So

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Speaker 7: I love the fact that we had action before the

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Speaker 7: trade deadline. I love the fact that we've got teams

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Speaker 7: that they're identifying what their weaknesses are. They're trying to

583
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Speaker 7: get better, like the Jets for example, kind of kicking

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Speaker 7: the candle the future.

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Speaker 5: It's not that far down the road, George, the future.

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Speaker 7: You start looking their draft capital for twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty seven, they can start making those changes immediately

588
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Speaker 7: and we'll we'll see where.

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Speaker 5: They stack up. But I love the fact that we

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Speaker 5: just had action.

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Speaker 7: You know, this trade dot deadline used to come and

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Speaker 7: go and we wouldn't have anything going on, and people

593
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Speaker 7: would just kind of be like, oh, yeah, it's football.

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Speaker 7: It's really hard for a player to you know, join

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Speaker 7: the team and get involved and learn the offense, learn

596
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Speaker 7: the defense like that.

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Speaker 5: That was what you still always say, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's just kind.

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Speaker 7: Of awesome that now we get something to talk about

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Speaker 7: after the trade deadline and teams are being more aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember one like yesterday to where you

602
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Speaker 2: had legitimate, big time names that were on the move.

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Speaker 2: Like trade on the deadline has always been more of

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Speaker 2: an NBA, MLB type thing, NHL, the NFL just kind

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Speaker 2: of other than when Garoppolo was traded to the Niners

606
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Speaker 2: years ago. But you know, it's not like he was

607
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Speaker 2: starting a bunch of games or anything like that. I

608
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Speaker 2: can't recall the last time we had big time names

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Speaker 2: like this on the move. I just think this proves

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Speaker 2: you can know the Jets should never be taken seriously

611
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Speaker 2: as an organization ever, Like they just in the same offseason.

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Speaker 2: You told Rogers we don't need you, and you told

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner we do need you, we want you here,

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Speaker 2: We're going to pay you, and they're both gone.

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Speaker 12: Like, so what was the what was it?

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Speaker 6: He did need to have time to evaluate his talent.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I would think that that's legit, right. You

618
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Speaker 6: gotta have the opportunity to evaluate your talent.

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Speaker 2: Why did you pay Why did you give soft Gardner

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Speaker 2: the contract if you're just gonna trade him? And I

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Speaker 2: think Garrett Wilson's a little banged up, right, now I

622
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Speaker 2: wonder if he wasn't banged up, would they have just

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Speaker 2: traded him too.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's what I started thinking about. When you talk

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Speaker 6: about a blockbuster deal that delivers that type of draft capital.

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Speaker 6: You know, Daniel Jones has totally galvanized the QB position

627
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Speaker 6: in in Indiana. We have not said the other name

628
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Speaker 6: in so long. They need a quarterback in New York.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious as to why, maybe maybe one of those

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Speaker 6: first round draft picks, maybe you just give us one

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Speaker 6: and give us Anthony Richardson. You think that was maybe

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Speaker 6: possibly on the table. I mean, they sent sent away

633
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Speaker 6: like a lot of capital.

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Speaker 3: He got his face caved in by a workout band.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I don't know that he's actually healthy.

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Speaker 8: Okay, if you could, maybe that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Then if you could get a first round pick, like

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Speaker 2: if the Jets gave up a first round pick for

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Speaker 2: Anthony Ring.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm saying they should be relegated.

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, instead of getting two first round picks from

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Speaker 6: the Jets, just take Anthony Richardson in one first round.

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Speaker 6: He's an I R though from Okay, all right, then

644
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Speaker 6: that makes sense because they need they need a QB.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well they he fractures orbital bone.

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Speaker 7: It's it's like, like, I don't some people have a

647
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Speaker 7: hard time, you know, saying stuff after coming.

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Speaker 5: Back from that.

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Speaker 8: So hmm, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know, we don't say his name at

651
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Speaker 6: Nobody says Anthony Richardson's name anymore, Like it's not even

652
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Speaker 6: a afterthought at this point. But he might still could

653
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Speaker 6: possibly be a quarterback that could be you know, I mean,

654
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Speaker 6: look at Daniel Jones. I wouldn't have thought he would

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Speaker 6: have been able to go do what he's doing now

656
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 6: after what what went down in New York.

657
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 7: I don't disagree with his ability. I think the biggest

658
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 7: difference between Daniel Jones and I mean, Daniel Jones played

659
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 7: a lot of football, like, he had a lot of experience,

660
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 7: and he also had a year where he played really

661
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 7: really good football. I mean, he took a team to

662
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 7: the playoffs. So that's never been the case for Anthony Richardson.

663
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that he can at some point, but

664
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 7: there's a lot of maturing that needs to occur and

665
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 7: development that needs to occur before that's ever going to happen.

666
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 7: And the hard thing about the NFL is they're not

667
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 7: waiting for him to mature, you know, they're not. That's

668
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 7: not their priority. This is a what can you do

669
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 7: to help me?

670
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 10: Now?

671
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: You know, what have you done for me lately? League?

672
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 7: So I again, not not even worth really talking about though,

673
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 7: only because he's he's on ir.

674
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I just that's what came to mind when

675
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 6: when I heard that they were just they were going.

676
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 11: And.

677
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 7: What came to mind when I watched all this, I

678
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 7: was thinking, like, dude, I can only if you are

679
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 7: a player on that team. And look, I understand that

680
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 7: there's the logic of well, hey, what you put on tape,

681
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 7: that's your resume, but I also feel like there's gonna

682
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 7: be some times where there's gonna be players who are like, man,

683
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 7: obviously we're kicking the can down the road, like we've

684
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 7: literally can't. And by the way, I've been a part

685
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 7: of teams that are are you know, two win teams

686
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 7: at this point in time this season, and it is

687
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 7: one of the toughest things to do because you're you

688
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 7: are constantly preaching, hope, constantly preaching to guys about like

689
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 7: playing for you know, your resume, playing for all these

690
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 7: things that are real, but you're not playing for a

691
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 7: super well, you're not playing for any of that. And

692
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 7: it gets really, really hard to motivate teams when they

693
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 7: get to this point, and especially after a trade deadline

694
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 7: and a bunch of deals like we saw from the

695
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 7: Jets yesterday.

696
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Breese Hall like there was talking he was

697
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: gonna get downe. They were talking about you stick around, Yeah,

698
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: stick around and just swim in them with the rest

699
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: of us here and trying to get too dirty.

700
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 12: All right, man, how many games are left?

701
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 6: I mean, you definitely have have told your team that

702
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 6: we don't believe in any of y'all mother efforts. And

703
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 6: I'm just letting y'all know that we're going to finish

704
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 6: out this season. Y'all can win, y'all can lose, y'all

705
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 6: can do whatever it is y'all want to do. It's

706
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 6: almost kind of like a gangster move for real, for real,

707
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 6: because that like, that's a brain f if you're still

708
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 6: in that locker room games, that's a lot of games, man, God,

709
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 6: that's a lot of games.

710
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 5: Half of the season.

711
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 8: I've told y'all.

712
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 6: I've now let y'all know, y're all on notice, you're

713
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 6: you're all on notice, like you think you can't get it.

714
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 8: Quinnon's a good dude, He's a better man than most

715
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 8: of y'all in here. He had to go.

716
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 6: Sas Gardner's a cool cat, he had to go. So

717
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: I'm just looking out all of y'all in this room.

718
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 8: Do you think gota care about you? You better make

719
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 8: me care? Are you out of here? I mean every

720
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 8: once in a while, I mean, we don't live in an.

721
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 6: Era of time where scare tactics really work with this

722
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 6: generation of people. But I gotta say one of the

723
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 6: biggest motivating factors a part of football with scare factors,

724
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 6: scare techniques, Hell yeah, scare.

725
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 8: You, and let me tell you something.

726
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: You want to know the reality of what's going on

727
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 6: and the Jets building from here on out. I guarantee

728
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 6: you you're gonna see more inspired football bout the New

729
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 6: York Jets moving forward, because any of y'all can get it.

730
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 6: And we've just let y'all know if we lose, we

731
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 6: already losing. We're already losing, y'all. Mother efforts have messed

732
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 6: this up. Y'all didn't know how good you had it

733
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: until you start seeing dudes like Quinnin and Saws end

734
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 6: up somewhere else.

735
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 8: You want a reality check, that's a hell of a

736
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 8: reality check.

737
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 5: Now, what you going to do with it? I gotta

738
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 5: be honest to you. I'll be transparent.

739
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 7: So all this, while all this was going on yesterday,

740
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 7: I was I was, actually I was, I was attending

741
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 7: Nick Mangle's funeral.

742
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 8: Oh man, we uh.

743
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 7: The crazy thing about it was it was really close

744
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 7: to Floorham Park where their facility is.

745
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 5: And by the way, they have one of the best

746
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 5: facilities in the league.

747
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 6: They have some of the best at that little label

748
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 6: Little pond Man made pond after that.

749
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, no one's doing much there.

750
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, like everything they have at the facility

751
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 7: is incredible, the food, the people who work there, like everyone.

752
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 7: It truly is like a really special place. Like the

753
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 7: whole area around it, Madison, Morristown, those areas are really

754
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 7: really awesome places to like live and raise a family

755
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 7: and all that. But it was it was crazy because

756
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 7: you know, I'm seeing all these people now. Granted, you

757
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 7: know past players and coaches and people who who worked

758
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 7: worked for the organization. Still you know, we weren't seeing

759
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 7: like their current regime. But I was just thinking, how

760
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 7: like all this stuff is going on while all these

761
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 7: people who have so many ties to the organization or

762
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 7: even some of the people who are working equipment or

763
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 7: you know, work in the training with the training staff

764
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 7: and all that they're they're you know, here a part

765
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 7: of this and it's it's got to be a shock

766
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 7: to them too. But on a separate not super super

767
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 7: sad day yesterday, but also like pretty awesome. I've I've

768
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 7: never I've never heard a yuleg if you will, or

769
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 7: or remembrance from Alan Fannick who spoke and it was

770
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 7: maybe the greatest I have ever heard like that man

771
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 7: like I obviously have always respected him as a you know,

772
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 7: former player, but the man that Alan Fannick is. And

773
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 7: then when he talked about Nick Mangold, obviously the man

774
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 7: that Nick Mangold was. You can tell why they were

775
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 7: close and you could tell why he was who they

776
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 7: chose to, you know, stand up and speak. It was

777
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 7: it was pretty moving. It was pretty incredible.

778
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: Good dude, you would do He still running marathons too.

779
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 7: He looks fantastic, Like if you if you if you

780
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 7: saw him, you would never guess that he played offensive

781
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 7: line ever ever, Like he looks fantastic and and these

782
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 7: is sharp and he's just awesome. Like you can tell

783
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 7: he's a he's a Hall of Fame through and through

784
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 7: and every in every capacity.

785
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 8: That's how a lot of them are. Man, they lose

786
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 8: that weight, you know.

787
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 6: You know, I mean not to change subjects because that's

788
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 6: a somber topic, but just to get us off of

789
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 6: being sad.

790
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 8: That the only way that I would have probably we're

791
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 8: talking about the Jets is kind of hard.

792
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 10: Yeah.

793
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, it went from sad to sad er though, like saddest,

794
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 6: you know, because that's a I mean, he's a bright

795
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 6: spot for that organization and he you know, he got

796
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 6: up out of here. Yeah, so that's like really like

797
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 6: kind of like dang, it's bad. But Hutchinson, you know,

798
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 6: the lineman, that the Hall of Fame lineman. You know,

799
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 6: we had a very very like turbulent type of deal.

800
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 6: Like since college, we we've always were like, you know,

801
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 6: he was that one dude that felt like he was

802
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 6: going to be the one that slams me around and

803
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 6: finished plays and go go after the whistle. I decided

804
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 6: I'd be as Huckleberry, So I did the same thing

805
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 6: back to him.

806
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 8: We was doing that even when we went to the pros.

807
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 6: Just hated each other like he was one of the

808
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 6: players on my list of people that we just we

809
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 6: hated each other, like literally hated each other. And when

810
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 6: I saw him at the College Football Hall of Fame,

811
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 6: we're talking Da da Dad, this that we're like chumming

812
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 6: it up. But he's looking at me like he still

813
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 6: had this kind of look at me like you know,

814
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 6: I'll bust your ass type of look right, And I

815
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: ain't understand it because I ain't know who he was.

816
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 6: I'm sitting there chumming it up with a dude that

817
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 6: I've hated for all these years. He lost that much,

818
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 6: he lost so much weight. I thought I was talking

819
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 6: to like a quarterback, like we're having a good time.

820
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 6: Tommy Fraser was there, Da Da Dad. We're sitting there

821
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 6: at the bar where we're having a good time. He's

822
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 6: standing there with his wife. His wife is slim, he's slim.

823
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 6: We're sitting there talking and I look at his head

824
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: and I'm like, hold on a minute, that's a pro

825
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 6: Football Hall of Fame ring, not a college football Hall

826
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 6: of Fame ring.

827
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 8: It looks better than mine. Who is this.

828
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 6: I looked at somebody, and somebody said Steve. I was like, bitch,

829
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 6: can't believe it. I shook his head. After I realized

830
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 6: that I was talking to Steve Hutchinson, I shook his hand,

831
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 6: he shook my head. We looked at each other. We

832
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 6: gave each other a hug. I said, I guess we're

833
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 6: family now, so we got to get over whatever our

834
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 6: hard feelings were. And he was like, yeah, man, we

835
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 6: gave each other a hug. This was in Vegas. It's

836
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 6: a magical moment. Got to keep all shots out to

837
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 6: the lineman, right, It's cool little story. I had no

838
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 6: idea who I was talking to, man, and that was

839
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 6: the only reason why we even got close enough to

840
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 6: even have that moment. But anyways, just reminded me of

841
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 6: like a cool because Alan Fanica big fan of Allen Fanica,

842
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 6: because obviously I'm a big Steeler fan.

843
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 12: Joe Thomas lost a lot of weight too.

844
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 8: They all lose a ton of weight.

845
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 6: Russell o'coon have you seen have you seen the Pouncy Brothers,

846
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 6: Like all these dudes that were like three four hundred pounds,

847
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 6: they look crazy.

848
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 7: Slim My guy, Orlando Franklin I think has lost the

849
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 7: most that I've ever seen. Like you wouldn't, you would

850
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 7: never recognize him. I played with him, and like I

851
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 7: remember seeing the picture. I was like, who's that. One

852
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 7: of my guys is like that's Orlando Franklin. Like a

853
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 7: holy cow, it's incredible. I mean, he's he's lost a ton.

854
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 7: You'd be sitting there like are you sick? Like you've

855
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 7: lost too much, You've lost way too much. You know

856
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 7: who else got slim?

857
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 8: Jared Allen got slim, like super slim.

858
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 6: Like guys are just I don't And I mean I

859
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 6: guess it's it's obviously for health purposes, Like there's so

860
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 6: many of your joints, all kinds of different things, cardiovasculars

861
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 6: and all kinds of different things, hypertension, that the silent killer,

862
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 6: heart attacks and all that stuff. Like when you're that big,

863
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 6: your heart is working, your liver, your kidneys are working

864
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 6: all crazy old time Franklin looks like an NBA player. Now, bro,

865
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 6: look at the pounces man. Look, I mean there's like

866
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 6: there's a long there's a laundry list them dudes do

867
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 6: he's got on my point?

868
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 8: Let me see. Yeah he looks, he looks. Yeah, he

869
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 8: looks very slim, very skin.

870
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: I'm just saying if even his face like it's hard

871
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 5: to like. Yeah, it's like place it at first.

872
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was. He was a thick one when he

873
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 8: was playing. That's him on the left when he was playing.

874
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a big boy.

875
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 12: Sleeps better now too.

876
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

877
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: Probably be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros

878
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington

879
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m.

880
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 13: Eastern three am Pacific. Five lines, not those kind of lines.

881
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 13: Five picks, five spreads. Time for picks against the spread.

882
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: All right, Ryan Berschinger, First of all, where do we

883
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: stand on the year going into what a Bird?

884
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 12: Brady is so far leading the way thirty seven and

885
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 12: seventeen on the air. That's a six eighty five percentage.

886
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 11: Twins Whens.

887
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 12: Rainer, you gonna hit the rench time. Maybe, LaVar you're

888
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 12: also doing well. Thirty four and twenty six. That's a

889
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 12: five sixty seven one percentage.

890
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 10: Ye, there you go. I'm gonna catch it. Worry about it.

891
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna catch it.

892
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 12: You got that, right, sports veteran, Yeah, Josh Jonas is

893
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 12: clean five hundred twenty four and twenty four.

894
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 10: So lock. So what we're saying is is Q is

895
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 10: on a Kentucky Derby type of horse.

896
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 6: I'm on a pooling horse, you know, like one of

897
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: them Amish horses that that plowed the fields.

898
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 10: And Jonas is on a tricycle, no grip one that

899
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 10: you used it.

900
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm on one of those ones out in front of kmart.

901
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: You remember the ones out in front of kmart. You

902
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: put a quarter in right around in.

903
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 10: There, you go, I go, yeah, yeah, you guys all moving,

904
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 10: but it ain't going nowhere. Think the movement, but it

905
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 10: ain't going nowhere. You know. I used to really get

906
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 10: excited to get on them little horses. A great quarter

907
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 10: quarter Yeah, man, I mean like I do one more quarter?

908
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 3: Mom, she knew it was coming to an end soon.

909
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 6: You wreak it now, yeah, yeah, hold on now, Lorena,

910
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 6: don't get carried away.

911
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 10: Lorena. All right, I fight back, you know, all right,

912
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 10: go ahead, go ahead, Burke, go ahead. What we got?

913
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 12: I mean, wellvar you're coming off of a six and

914
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 12: one week last week. You got that Brady five and two,

915
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 12: Jonas four and two, a strong show and overall you

916
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 12: guys all hit your money lines. It's a good week

917
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 12: for everything. I hope next year we rid ourself.

918
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 6: I hope that year we do away with money line

919
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 6: line crack, oh we money lines and stuff.

920
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 5: I'm Jonahs Knox. I can't do money lines.

921
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 12: No, I think that's going to be ten dollars dollars.

922
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 10: I think that's going to be ten dollars.

923
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: The Jonas Knox does not do money lines. The Jonas

924
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: Knox refuses to. That's why, Knox, you just do that?

925
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 10: Is that third person? Was that third person? That's a fine,

926
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 10: That's okay, Well, thank you, thank you, and you better

927
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 10: pay it.

928
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 5: You know, he's he's he's been kind of towing the

929
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 5: line a little too close to it.

930
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 12: So let me tell you what's a budget.

931
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 10: Judge has spoken, get the gabble, so we get the gabble.

932
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 8: So I spoke it spoken.

933
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 9: Down knocks, you're guilty, knocks, time to talk, well, contempt,

934
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 9: you're honored, you're guilty.

935
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 12: No, behind the scenes, don't want to hear it.

936
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Brady announced himself via our text chain that he

937
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: is the judge.

938
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: Jury and executioner match like Roger Goodell.

939
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 12: This is so unfair.

940
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 5: There will be no appeal. Burst please proceed.

941
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 12: Oh yes, okay, let's race just started off.

942
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 11: Patriots said, Buccaneers.

943
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 12: The Bucks are favored here minus two and a half

944
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 12: at home, Joan, we will start with you.

945
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh give me Tampa Bay off a bye week.

946
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, New England knocks locks.

947
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: New England got a little bit exposed last week by

948
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. You know, if not for a missed

949
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: Pa tea, maybe we're having a whole different conversation. I

950
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: think Todd Bowles is gonna have those guys ready, and

951
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 2: I think Tampa Bay minus the two and a half

952
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: is the right side here.

953
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 12: Brady, how you feeling.

954
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 5: Give me New England muddy line, that's right.

955
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 7: Bucks off the by maybe getting a little bit healthier,

956
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 7: but they are pretty banged up, so we'll see who's

957
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 7: actually healthy.

958
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 12: That was really good.

959
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 7: Once the game comes around, give me the Pats going

960
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 7: down to Tampa and getting to win.

961
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 11: Twins Whens.

962
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 10: I'm going I'm gonna take.

963
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: Uh, I'm gonna take the Bucks to cover on this one,

964
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 6: only because I feel like this is a safer, safer,

965
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 6: safer go at it. I feel like you you're jumping

966
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 6: out there with the money line on this one. So

967
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 6: either you're gonna you're gonna take a larger lead on

968
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 6: me with this one, or I'm gonna this is one

969
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 6: where I.

970
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 10: Chip the wood on, right, baby, a little closer.

971
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Tampa to cover sticks picks

972
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 6: and I feel confident about that pick.

973
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 10: By the way.

974
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: Good.

975
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, Sure, here's the.

976
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 11: Next one, Jaguars said Texans.

977
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 12: The Jaguars favored on the road here minus one and

978
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 12: a half. Brady, Brady, you can kick this one off.

979
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take the Texans money line.

980
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

981
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 5: Look, Davis Mill stepping in for CJ. Stroud.

982
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 7: He was fine last week, but I just there's something

983
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 7: about that defensive front for Houston versus the Jags.

984
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 5: I'm not sure they're be able to protect Trevor Lawrence

985
00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 5: very well.

986
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 7: So I'll go ahead and take Texans money line here,

987
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 7: twins wins, I'll.

988
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 10: Jump on it. I'll jump on it.

989
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 6: I don't like I don't like Stroud being out of

990
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 6: the game. I think this team has continued to struggle

991
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 6: even with Stroud in the game. I think that this

992
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 6: Jaguars team is much like this fall weather that I'm

993
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 6: sitting here in in in state College.

994
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 10: Sometimes it's nice.

995
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's not, dude, it's a little it's a little inconsistent.

996
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 6: But without CJ. Stroud in the game, I think that

997
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 6: they're vulnerable. I am going to take the Jags in

998
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 6: this one to.

999
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 11: Cover sticks picks.

1000
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: Davis Mills has got a neck like a light pole

1001
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: Tyan for some reason as a backup quarterback.

1002
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: They're only a point and a half underdog at home.

1003
00:51:53,239 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: Give me the Texans on the money line, no choice,

1004
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: he's done money line in the past. I got no choice.

1005
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: I gotta try and catch up, got no choice. You

1006
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 3: know what they say, the turtle and the hair. You

1007
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: just gotta keep on your pace. Right, they're gonna get you.

1008
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: That's that's that's a fictional story. Oh that fictional store.

1009
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 6: Go ahead, let's keep going. All right, here's that hair

1010
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 6: gonna be long gone. Go ahead, let's keep Ram said.

1011
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: Forty nine ers.

1012
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 12: The Rams are favored here minus four and a half

1013
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 12: in San Francisco. Levart's start this one off. You said,

1014
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 12: what what's the number minus four and a half for

1015
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 12: the Rams?

1016
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 6: Ooh, minus four and a half. I'm gonna take I'm

1017
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 6: gonna take the points on that one. Yeah, they won't

1018
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 6: win by more than that, So I'm gonna take the Niners.

1019
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 11: Sticks picks, all right, Jonas.

1020
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: The fort clown the Rams. The last time they met up,

1021
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: that was the we Go. Mac Jones saw the dead

1022
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: body at the hotel the day of the game, and

1023
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: then on Thursday night he went into Rick or Mortis

1024
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: because he was dealing with all those body cramps and

1025
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: it was like, Oh my god, what Sean McVeigh doing

1026
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: and what was that play call? This feels like a

1027
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 2: revenge spot for the Rams. I'll take La minus four

1028
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: and a half knocks Loucks.

1029
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 7: I'm torn here because i want San Francisco, but I

1030
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 7: can't tell if I want the money line or if

1031
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna take the four and a half points.

1032
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 7: I'm a little concerned about what Jona's just mentioned. I mean, dude,

1033
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford's playing at a super high level right now.

1034
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 7: We don't know if Pertty we'll be back or not.

1035
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 7: I'm assuming it's mac Jones. Either way, I'm not really

1036
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 7: sure it changes the line of ton here. I'm gonna

1037
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 7: take San Francisco in the points, though these games are

1038
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 7: always close, and Shanahan usually has something for Sean McVay.

1039
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 7: So I'll take the four and a half points in San.

1040
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 3: Franquin's when's back to back to back? It's crazy.

1041
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 8: I love like the laugh too.

1042
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 5: That's in there.

1043
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 12: Uh next up here said Chargers. Chargers are favorite at

1044
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 12: home here minus three on Sunday Night Monday Line.

1045
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 14: Okay, you got that right? Yeah, I see you sticks Okay,

1046
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 14: Jonas oh Man, Yeah that's right, Jonas, that's right.

1047
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: Johnson, what are you gonna do?

1048
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 12: You know what we already? Yeah, this is the Sunday

1049
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 12: Night came right, you know, Jonas?

1050
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 5: What are you going to do? This pack?

1051
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: This past week? On the Challenge on k NBC with

1052
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 3: your hand in your pack? What the Challenge Challenge?

1053
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 10: Pocket Storry Brady Quinn with his hand in his pocket.

1054
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 12: I did pick the Steelers to win the game.

1055
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 10: Did I say, Brady Quinn?

1056
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 5: It's fine knocks?

1057
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 8: I did?

1058
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: I did?

1059
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 3: I did pick the Steelers and they don't do point

1060
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 3: spreads on that show.

1061
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, get to it.

1062
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: Let's go Pittsburgh on the money line, did you put

1063
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: that in your smoking?

1064
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: You and I t y, Oh what do you want?

1065
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh money Line? Baby, let's go, let's go. When Chargers

1066
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 7: are banged up when yeah, a little unity unity, Yeah,

1067
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 7: all right.

1068
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 8: Come on, Twins Wins, come ONSA.

1069
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 12: Is the best Packers, that's right, Monday Night Packers are

1070
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 12: favored here minus two and a half. Jonas, you kicked

1071
00:55:59,560 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 12: this one off.

1072
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 10: God, you know what you want to do. Come on,

1073
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 10: you know exactly what you want to do.

1074
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: Do it. I find it hard to believe green Bay

1075
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: do it, Jonas. I'm gonna take the Packers minus two

1076
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: and a half and.

1077
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 11: Knocks lock.

1078
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 10: That was a horrible pick.

1079
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: Oh, you know what I'm going with Philly money line

1080
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 5: Twins Whens.

1081
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 8: I gotta jump on the back of that horse with

1082
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 8: my boy Q.

1083
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 11: Money line sticks picks.

1084
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 5: Yay, it's gonna be a big week.

1085
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 8: Boys.

1086
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 10: You knew what to do.

1087
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 6: You knew what to do, Jonas, and in those moments

1088
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 6: you go in the opposite direction.

1089
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 10: You need to tell me that's weird.

1090
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me Green Bay is going to

1091
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: lay another egg at home like they did against Carolina

1092
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row.

1093
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 10: Against Philly. Come on, man, I don't know.

1094
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 8: I've been proud of it.

1095
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 6: But it's not that you shouldn't be proud of that pick.

1096
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 6: You should not be, but Okay, you know, hey, do

1097
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 6: what makes you feel good?

1098
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 10: I like it.

1099
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 6: You and I.

1100
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 12: WHOA, Why I haven't heard that in so long?

1101
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 10: You and I. Yeah, it's a great pool, very nice pool.

1102
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 6: Queen Latifa's dope shouts out to Queen latifa What up,

1103
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 6: Queen Latif?

1104
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 10: Whoa Latifa's Latifa is a dude?

1105
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 8: I call her Latif?

1106
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 5: He plays quarterback for Nebraska.

1107
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I don't think so, my guy. You call her,

1108
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 6: you call her Queen Latifah, you swept me bar call. No,

1109
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 6: you don't call her what you want. You're not allowed to.

1110
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 6: I protect her