1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. You guys, Holy crap. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: I know we warned you last week that we're gonna 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: have two nights of Paradise, and I felt like it 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: was two weeks packed into two episodes. This week was crazy. 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: So much happened. But before we get into all of that, 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: please welcome one of my best friends, my incredible co host, Tea. 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. I'm glad that I didn't 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: scare you away last week. Thank you, Thank you so much. Yeah, 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: I did not expect the episodes to be this hot 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: and heavy, this quick. If I wasn't taking notes, I 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: would legitimately forget what the hell happened because there was 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: so much. There's so much, it's like I have notes, 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Like if you guys could see my notes right now, 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm like starring everything of points that I really want 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: to hit, and I know that we're not even gonna 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: get around to half of it. But I gotta start 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: with this because this week we see Demi come in, 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, and she comes in hot, and I want 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: to do the same for this podcast, and so you 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna come in with the big D energy, 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: the Big Demi energy, that's how she walked down onto 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: the beach. She already was stirring the pot before. She 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: talks to everyone, but it was girls. They wouldn't take 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: their men. I love Demi. I mean, okay, listen, I've 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: known Demi for a while now, I freaking love her. 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: I know she probably rubs people the wrong way and 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of viewers and listeners, you know, 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: saying whatever mean things you want to say. But Demi 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: is Demi, and she just owns the ship out of 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: who she is, and I'm here for it is. I 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: love it so entertaining. If we didn't have Demi right now, 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be paradise without her. So, yeah, 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: we see her kick it off? Was it? This was 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: the first date of the week right where she takes Brendan. Yeah, 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: she came in with a day card. Came in with 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: a day card. It takes Brendan. I mean, you know, I, 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: oh god, this is what I wanted to say. T 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: I didn't even write this in my notes for the 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: dates that we saw this week on the beach. Well, 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: I told you this because we were in quarantine together. 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: But this is why I love having the podcast because 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: we can give actual behind the scenes of like our 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: side of things, and even though we're not there yet. 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: We were in quarantine and I was watching all of 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: these dates go on outside of my hotel room and listen. 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: The video card was one that was one that was 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: the first date I saw, because I got told to 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: go into my room because something might be happening on 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: the beach, and of course I don't listen. So I 50 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: was sitting on my balcony, I had my big sunglasses on, 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: I had one of those hair wraps. I was kind 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: of like trying to live out what was happening on 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: the dates and having a conversation and um, and so 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: maybe if you all all are lucky, I will share 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: the true behind the scenes of what you actually didn't see. 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: I saw Demi and Brendan's and I saw Thomas and Serena. 57 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: They were they were a little bit farther down on 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: the beach, so at first I didn't know it was 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Thomas and Serena until they walked closer in front of 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: my balcony. UM. And in that case, I felt kind 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: of creepy because I felt like it was like a 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: dad and his daughter because of the height difference, size 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: the size difference I was at first, I was like, 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: who the hell is this? Um yeah, but who brought daddy? Daddy? 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Who brought a chaperone to Paradise? Um? No, So that's like, 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: it's so funny now actually watching these dates back and 67 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: hearing the conversation and what all went down, because I 68 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: had something totally different in my mind. But I will 69 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: say I didn't know it was Demi and Brendan because 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon, you can just sell from the hair. 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: And the second I heard Demi laugh on the beach, 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's my baby. Um shot that. 73 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Demmi was so smitten kitten so fast with Brendan and 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: was bummed out that he said he wanted to continue 75 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: to talk to other people. I've never seen Demmy like that, 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: or I just I haven't either, I think. But here's 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: the thing, and Demi, I love you, but I don't 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: think she's used to people not being anyone saying no, 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: anyone saying no, and so I think that was the 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: first time where she was really like, well, what the 81 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: hell I brought you on this date? I took you out, 82 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, And so yeah, um, she I don't blame 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: her for feeling like that. She's like, why did I 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: waste this date with you for you to say that? 85 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: But it's the eyes, you know, Demmy ain't gonna let 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: that get her down here, No, not for long. But 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: but it's the eyes. Brendan has these like, oh, piercing 88 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: blue ocean blue eyes that just kind of like like 89 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: the ocean, it sucks you in. And so I get it. 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, like all of the all of the women 91 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: so far mesmerized by Brendan and Demi, you know, she 92 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: couldn't resist the charm. Speaking of Brendan, we hear a 93 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: lot of chit chat behind the scenes about a potential 94 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: relationship that he has back home with Piper, which I'm 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: thinking like some foreshadowing there, But he's not the only 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: one that people are talking about that may be in 97 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: a relationship with somebody else. Fast around that damn beach. 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, two seconds. It's like the fastest game of 99 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: telephone you've ever played. Speaking of foreshadowing for relationships that 100 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: people may have before coming to Paradise, I will say 101 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: we do have a guest coming on very shortly, and 102 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: that is Victoria Paul. Victoria p because she was somebody 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: else who was in the midst of certain allegations, and 104 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: we're going to have run very soon after we recap, 105 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: just so she can give her side of things, say 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: her piece, kind of maybe put some of those rumors 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: to bed. If if they aren't put to go bed, 108 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: who knows, We will find out very soon. Let's just 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: kind of recab give our main takeaways. I mean, drama 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: with Victoria pe she goes home, We see Kelsey go home, 111 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: and who else went home? Victoria l the goddess. I'm 112 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: honestly really sad because I wanted to meet her so bad. 113 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: You were saying that, Yeah, I would just love to 114 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: be in her presence in person. Back to Serena see though, 115 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: trying to hop on erin to get to stay and 116 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, shame girl listening everyone would he immediately 117 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: made out with Tammy right out. Oh gosh, damn. It's 118 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: so interesting because I'm not the type of person to 119 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: like throw a hail Mary pass and like try to 120 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: do what I can to solidify anything. I feel like 121 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I would be more of like a 122 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: Kelsey where it's like, if it happens, it happens. If 123 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't, fuck it, who cares. But it's interesting to 124 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: see how people handle their business in these pressure situations, 125 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: knowing that, you know, for women are going to be 126 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 1: going home. Um so we see a couple of women 127 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: go home. We see some new sexy eye candy come 128 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: down to the beach. We have Thomas, we have Riley 129 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: and ry I'm surprised Riley's arms fit through the Gates 130 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: of Paradise because can I just say too that they 131 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: look big and buff and huge on TV? But in person, 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: person who listen, listen, dude like Thomas kept talking about 133 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: his height, but so did we, so did we and 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: we got and I mean Riley also knows his arms 135 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: are like bazookas. They're not just the big guns, they 136 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: are bazookas his chest like these dudes in person. Holy 137 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: freaking craps. There's a rumor that Riley smashed a watermelon 138 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: with one bicept. And this is the content that we 139 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: need to see. We need this. Speaking of like hot 140 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: steamy things, I got to get into this state with 141 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Riley and Marissa um can I. All I wrote down 142 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: for my notes for the state was just straight sex, 143 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: like hot steamy hot, SA texted me and she goes like, 144 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: good lord, you guys, this date has me fired up. 145 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean it just is so abruptly give it to me. 146 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: But it was hot and steemy for some people, but 147 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: it was also sad boys summer for others. I mean, 148 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: we see Joe down in the dums, we see Connor 149 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: down in the dumes. We see Connor basing the beach 150 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: and writing songs for Marissa, like she's going to come 151 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: back and still be with him, and like, listen, Connor, 152 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: I applaud the dedication, the enthusiasm, the passion that you 153 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: still have for Marissa. But like Riley's arms, yeah, that's 154 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: all I got to say, no, no, And like it's 155 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: so hard because you want to fill for him, but 156 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: you want to root for her at the same time. 157 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: This is tricky. Gosh, um love Masa Marissa though she 158 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: just I loved it all out there. Oh she's my favorite. She. 159 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I absolutely adore Marissa. And one thing that we can't 160 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: forget about is we get a new I was gonna say, Judge, 161 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: is this not really that kind of show? We get 162 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: a new guest host, and I am so upset that 163 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: we were there for this entrance because also, okay, so 164 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: we see Lance Bass as the next guest host. But 165 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: like when they start playing that old boombox with n SYNC, 166 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: people were kind of dancing a little bit. Oh my godda. 167 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: If we were there, I would have been. I would 168 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: have been the whole dance. I would have been on 169 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: my head spitting on the ground like I would do. Yeah, 170 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: the Marionettes, whatever we gotta do. We like people. You 171 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: guys did not fully appreciate all that end Sync and 172 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: last Lance Bass had to offer him. Was there, No, 173 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: they needed us, they needed us. Connor was into it. 174 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: He was the only one who I think knew all 175 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: the lyrics, he knew the dance moves. Um, thank you 176 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Connor for that, because we needed that. Lance needed that. 177 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: But oh my god, the girls when they sat down 178 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: and they had a mimosa with mister Lance Bass, I 179 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like the backs 180 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: of my kneecaps would have been sweating. I would have. 181 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: I would have been, so I would have been like, 182 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't even want to date any of these other men. 183 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: I know I'm not I'm not Lance's type, and I 184 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: don't care he can give me a rose. I know, yeah, 185 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: seriously hit that falsetto god fucking weird. Oh my god, 186 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: just wait you guys, do you I could go on 187 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: and on about it. I think everything just wait till 188 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: we hit the beach, because we're gonna have so much 189 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: more behind the scenes, so much more tea, so much 190 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: more everything that we can give you. But until then, 191 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: which I don't even know what that happens, because for 192 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: one week, I feel like we've been watching seventeen years 193 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: full of this already. But a lot went down, and 194 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: I think we just have to bring on our guest 195 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: right now because a lot went down with her, and 196 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: we want to allow her the chance to take the mic, 197 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: to say what she has to say and to clear 198 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: up any confusion that we all may have of if 199 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: there was a boyfriend, if there was a dog, if 200 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: there was a music career to be enhanced. Right now, 201 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: So with help further ado, ladies and gentlemen, let's please 202 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: welcome Victoria P to Batch a Happy Hour. We have 203 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: the woman of the hour here, Victoria P. Before we start, Victoria, welcome. 204 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: Do you want me to keep the pea on your 205 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: name or just call you a straight Victoria Honestly, you 206 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: can call me anything as long as it's nice. My 207 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: friends call me VP initials, So whatever you want, Okay, Okay, 208 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: well I'll call you VP. But sometimes I then think 209 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the vice president, Madame vice President. Um, okay, 210 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: so we'll just call you Victoria. I was gonna say 211 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Vicky for some reason, like VICKI like Vicky. No, Okay. 212 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: The teacher in sixth grade that so we had like 213 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: got to this debate that my skirt was too short 214 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: and that it was like distracting to boys, and I 215 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: had a whole debate with her like, well, shouldn't you 216 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: be teaching the boys like that, Women's bodies aren't I 217 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: was in sixth grade. Five. Ever since then, I'm like, Vicky, 218 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: don't call me Vicky. Okay, No, Vicky. I like that 219 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: you'd just story attached to it. Well, welcome to batch 220 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: our happy hour, Victoria. This is the first time we've 221 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: actually had you because we unfortunately did not speak with 222 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: you during Peter's season. There's just so much craziness going on. 223 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: But since leaving Mexico and now being back in the 224 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: real world and watching everything back, how have you been? 225 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: It was a lot you know, I was only on 226 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the beach for two nights, like thirty six hours, and 227 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot happened there. I'm obviously disappointed and like some 228 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: of the things that I heard that we're said. But 229 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: each person has their own own I guess they have 230 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: their own idea of what happens, and I think that's 231 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: based on assumptions. And I kind of wish that, I 232 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: really wish that that had been asked the questions and 233 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: been able to address the concerns, but I really wasn't 234 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: given that opportunity. And yeah, well we'll get into all 235 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: of that too, because we do have some questions around 236 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, the drama that we saw and fold. Let's 237 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: take it back from the beginning, because you know, day one, 238 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: you get there, you're one of the first people on 239 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: the b too, were there since the beginning. It's exciting. 240 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: You don't know what to expect. What how did you 241 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: feel walking down those steps, you know, meeting David Spade 242 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: and then meeting the original cast that first day, So 243 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: walking down the stay ups, I was super excited, optimistic, like, 244 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: let's freaking do this thing. I'm one hundred percent ready. 245 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm super excited to meet to meet the new girls 246 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: to meet the guys, and I was really stoked and 247 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: was a huge fan of Joe Dirk. So I feel 248 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: like excited. I already asked to a good start. Yeah, 249 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: and so the you know, because we didn't see you 250 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: really in much of the drama and tell Monday in 251 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: nets episode. So I'm assuming the first couple days, well day, 252 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I know TV time is much different than 253 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: real lifetime, but it seemed like smooth sailing. It seemed 254 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: like that first day you were talking to James, you 255 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a connection. What was that 256 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: like for you. Yeah, like I said, I was, I 257 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: was only there for two nights at thirty six hours, 258 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: so and first getting there, I'm super excited and optimistic, 259 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: and right away I didn't feel like I feel like 260 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: typically in my real life I feel connected. It's like 261 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: an instant connection whenever I connect with someone, and I 262 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: didn't feel that. So I was kind of like hmmm. 263 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: And then the guys, because they had the roses, were 264 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: like expecting the girls to go to them, and I'm like, no, 265 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: I feel like a man to pursue me. And so 266 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: I was kind of like waiting for that, and and 267 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: I ended up actually, I think like talking to James myself, 268 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: like just being like, Okay, I've got to do this, 269 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: I've got to got to get out there and so 270 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: and so I did and such a great guy, super sweet. 271 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I was kind of I was actually really excited in 272 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: the beginning, and then I just kind of started like 273 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I found myself kind of like 274 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: I was having to convince myself that I was feeling 275 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: something that I wasn't and then I started to kind 276 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: of be like okay, and is like, there's nothing wrong 277 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: with this guy. He's great, he's a hunk, but like, 278 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: like not the note that it was by default, But 279 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: did you feel like since there were so many other 280 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: couples making connections, Yeah, James's single, I'll talk to him 281 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: well that you you know, there's nothing wrong with him. 282 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: He's a great guy. But it's like you don't want 283 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: to feel that instant yeah with James, I and just 284 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: with anyone on the beach. I think that I try 285 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: to go in with no expectations, but typically like if 286 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm gaining someone, there's either an instant connection there's not. 287 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: And I didn't feel that that spark and that instant 288 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: connection with him, and so right away I was like, 289 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: oh shit, like oh no, but I also was like, okay, Victoria, 290 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: you've known this guy for twenty four hours, give it 291 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: a shot. You're here, like there could be someone else 292 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: that comes down the beach, And then there was really 293 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: no one else that I felt like I was really 294 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: all guys were great but attracted to and so yeah, 295 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: I just like took some time to get to know him. 296 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: A wonderful guy, but there are a lot of wonderful 297 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: people that just aren't compatible, and right I just I 298 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: think ultimately I I wasn't ready because we've all been there, right, 299 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Like we've all done the show. We've all been on 300 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: the badge short and now you know, cuts out of 301 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: the bag. We've all been on paradise for some sort 302 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: of time. And it's this weird situation where, you know, 303 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: playing off of what Tia was just saying, where it's like, 304 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's already couples established. You want to get 305 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: to a certain point. You obviously don't want things to 306 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: feel forced, but to continue week by week and day 307 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: by day, you need to form some sort of connection. 308 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: So it's just this weird situation, like I would say, 309 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: social experiment to see who hits it off, and if 310 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: you felt like, you know, because we've all met James, 311 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: James is great, He's such a good dude. But if 312 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: you just feel like that passion, that chemistry wasn't there, Yeah, 313 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: you can't force it. Was there. Anyone that you were 314 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: hoping would be on the beach that didn't that you 315 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: didn't see walk down those steps that first week, or 316 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: that you see come later, that you wished you would 317 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: have been able to meet. You know, I really think 318 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: that that band guy what's his name, y'all, I'm that 319 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: was named Oh yeah, the other day I called I'm like, 320 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: I called my doctor, Am I having a stroke? Like, 321 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: I just my mom's name is Cindy and I called 322 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: her Sydney. I'm like my mother, I'm like, so big, 323 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: nothing personal against Jay said, yeah, no, it wasn't it 324 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: with her own mom. It's the thing it was. I 325 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: it was concerning you did forget James's name quite a 326 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: few times a lot. But listen, I understand, especially when 327 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: you're filming. I mean, from somebody who forgot one of 328 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 1: the guy's names on my season on a group date 329 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: in front of everybody, I get it. There's a lot 330 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: of everyone else's name. Everyone else is saying besides someone 331 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Ta was on that date too. She was there and 332 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: witnessed it. So so so we get it. So Ben 333 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: Ben from UM from California from Clarentatious season correct and 334 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: Smith I think it is his name. Actually googled him 335 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: a while ago because I was like, they're gonna ask 336 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: me his name, and I need to make sure I 337 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: get it right. Ben's okay, workout there all right? M okay? 338 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, because I know that they always ask all 339 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: of the casts coming down, Okay, who do you really 340 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: want to see here? Like who do you think you 341 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: could hit it off with? So I actually love asking 342 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: everyone that question because it's so funny when some people 343 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: say that the same one guy over and over and over. 344 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: So but I but I really hearty fighting over this man. 345 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: I haven't heard Ben yet, So this is this is great. Um, well, 346 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, I'm not gonna give anything away. 347 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: Who knows if Ben's walks down onto that beach or now? 348 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: But um, okay, so we see, let's just get into 349 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: it a little bit because you were part of some 350 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: of the drama that night before the first row of 351 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: ceremony goes down to recap briefly basically, you know, we 352 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: see you and James chatting, and then we see Kelsey 353 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: and Tammy talking about that you may or may not 354 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: have a boyfriend back home back in Nashville, and they 355 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: can well, I wouldn't say they confront They confront James 356 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: about it, and then he confronts you about it. So 357 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: when all of that is going down, did you know 358 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: when James pulled you what he was going to be 359 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: chatting with you about. Did you have any idea that 360 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: this allegation would be circling on the beach? I was completely, honestly, 361 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: completely blindsided. So I present that I was completely blindsided. 362 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: Whenever James pulled me aside and asked about it. I 363 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: just I Kelsey and Tammy were both like, I mean 364 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: for my season, and so I just I think that 365 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: my expectation would have been, like, Okay, if there's an 366 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: issue or if they had some kind of a concern, 367 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: like they would have come to me and like and 368 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: said something, I want to give you the mic for 369 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: a second and cleared the air and put any rumors 370 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: to bed, if we will, Because I know there's a 371 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: lot circulating right now. So did you or did you 372 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: not have a boyfriend coming into Paradise. No, I started 373 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: dating a guy, and well, I moved to Nashville in January, 374 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: and New Paradise was a thing, right. It was something 375 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: that I wanted to do and I was really excited 376 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: about and I was not and I was dating anyone. 377 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not dating anybody. And the guy 378 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: that I end up getting in a relationship with, I 379 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: try to set him up with one of my friends. 380 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not dating anyone. Like I put this 381 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: guy off, I'm like no, and he asked me to 382 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: get a drink with him. So I end up going. 383 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: We become really close as like best friends, and then 384 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: it just developed into something more unintentionally and it was 385 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: happens and yeah, and so that's I think part of 386 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: the reason why going like on Paradise was kind of 387 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: difficult because I'm like, typically like and my relationships in 388 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: the past, it's just been like, I'm gonna get to 389 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: know you, You're gonna get to know me, and then 390 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: and there's no pressure. But if it like if we 391 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: connect and it takes off great, And so I think 392 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: with the James sing like you have to be so intentional, 393 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: and there's such like a pressure to like rush, and 394 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: that anxiety was like really alive in me. Right. But 395 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: back to that, that relationship, Paradise was always something that 396 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: we knew was a very strong possibility. Like I said 397 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: day one, I was very honest with him. We talked 398 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: about it, and whenever we had only been dating like 399 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: two and a half months, right and Paradise, it's like, Okay, 400 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: I have to make a decision. And I think that 401 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: probably the weight of whether Paradise Paradise is going to 402 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: be a thing or not, like weight heavy on our relationship. 403 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: Like he wasn't at he didn't ask me to stay, 404 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: and it was just like you should do, like you 405 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: should go, and I encourage you to follow your heart 406 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: or whatever, like we haven't been dating long, you know, like, 407 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: and I think that he probably was trying to give 408 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: me his blessing, but to me, it was like he doesn't. 409 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: He's like he wouldn't fully commit, right, And when someone 410 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: won't fully commit naturally, it's like, okay, well, if you're 411 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: not gonna be all in, then maybe I should um 412 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: two other options. Yeah, And so we ended up having 413 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: a conversation and he actually, um, this was like four 414 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: like a month or four parais It's just like two 415 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: months into dating and he broke up with me and 416 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: was like, I just feel like you've got your own 417 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: thing going on Paradise. It's like this huge weight on 418 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: us whether you're going to go, whether you or not, like, 419 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, are we serious enough for you to stay? 420 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: Are you gonna have regrets if you stay? M you know, 421 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: if we don't work out because our relationship is so fresh. 422 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: And actually the night that he broke up with me, 423 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: I stayed at Kelsey's house. So um so, so if 424 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: he broke up with you and you then went on 425 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: to Paradise to you know, pursue whatever potential relationship could 426 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: be there. When all of this was going to on 427 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: with Tammy and Kelsey telling James and you know, talking 428 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: about how you were going to boost this guy's music career, 429 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: whatever was said, why wouldn't you at that point just 430 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: be like, well, he broke up with me, this finished 431 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: a month prior to this. You know, he ended things 432 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm here. Why didn't you just say 433 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: that something similar to like where did they get that information? 434 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: Or like where would they come up with this in 435 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: the first place. You know, if you guys have been 436 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: broken up, does that make sense? Yeah? No, absolutely, um, 437 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: you know naturally, like I whenever a conflict arises, like 438 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: and I've done a lot of therapy and I I mean, 439 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: you guys see me on Peter season. Whenever a conflict 440 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: happens with the lea, like, I just completely shut down 441 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: and I it's like my nervous system it's just completely overstimulated, 442 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: and I just feel like fight or flight and I 443 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: don't know what to say, and a lot of time 444 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: that just cry. And so that's been something that I've 445 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: really worked on through therapy and setting healthy boundaries and 446 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: communicating through conflict. And so at the time, whenever all 447 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: that's happening, I don't like honestly, like until watching the 448 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: episode and kind of hearing what happens, I like, I 449 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: don't even remember what I said, like because I was 450 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: remember being so like, okay, I just gotta like I've 451 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: got to remember my therapy techniques. I can walk away 452 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and set a healthy boundary. Like my personal relationships are 453 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: personal to me, you know, the it's no one's business 454 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: unless they're part of it. Had Kelsey or Tammy asked me, 455 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: kind of are been like, Hey, how are you feeling? 456 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Are been around when I was having the conversations like 457 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: with Deandra or heard my interviews the whole time, I'm like, 458 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: I I'm questioning, like, you know, if I if I'm 459 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: ready for this? So if I'm not, you know, I 460 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: from the moment that probably before James James and I kissed, 461 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: but definitely after that. Um, so it wasn't It wasn't 462 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: a secret. I just didn't feel comfortable sharing that with people. 463 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable sharing it with and Kelsey and 464 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Tammy never asked, so they just assumed. So why do 465 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: you think they brought up the boyfriend at home thing? 466 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Because that's that's completely normal to feel like, you know, 467 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: what am I doing here? Why did I do this? 468 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: I don't have this instant connection with anyone. That's completely normal. 469 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: If you have a connection with somebody, I think everyone 470 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: still questions what the hell am I doing here? Well, okay, 471 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: well that makes me. I'm glad you said that because 472 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, like, I don't like this. I 473 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: need to get back home to the people that I love, 474 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: like that can pourant to me. And because I am 475 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: my therapist because it's like, I'm not made for this. 476 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm not made for these freaking mosquitoes and this heat, 477 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: and literally I was sweating my titties off, like actually, no, 478 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: I feel that. No, but actually one of my implants 479 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: when I got home, it was like deflating. It was okay, 480 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: literally swetted my titty off. So on Monday, I have 481 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: surgery that morning to remove my implants. So, oh my god. Okay, 482 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: so you can neverification in Mexico in the future. Keep 483 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: that in mind. I mean one of them. I was like, truly, 484 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: my mom was My mom was so funny. She was like, 485 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: you literally swetted your titties off. I was like, And 486 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: my grandma was like, oh my god, I'm so glad 487 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: that didn't happen when you were there, Like it would 488 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: have been so bad. I would have been so embarrassed. 489 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, literally smell worried. So anyway, um, yeah, 490 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: right now we're just being compy and cozy and having 491 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: the girls. So let me ask you this because basically 492 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: I have a two part question here. But first I 493 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: want to get into because when all of this is 494 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: being brought up on the beach about you having this 495 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: said boyfriend back home. One of the allegations was that 496 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: you came on because you would have a bigger platform 497 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: to be able to promote his music. And then also 498 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: there was something there was some story with the dog 499 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: of you guys had a dog or we're watching the 500 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: dog by the way. Well, I will say, at the 501 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: dog really quick, I got the dog for me. It 502 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: was like a rescue right. The dog fell in love 503 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: with the boyfriend. The boyfriend fell in love with the 504 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: dog immediately, So we share the dog, and him and 505 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: I are even now like great friends. I will say, 506 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: the guy that I was dating before the show we 507 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: broke up, wanted nothing to do with this, like specifically 508 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: asked that his name was not brought up. And because 509 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: I think that and like, and that's kind of like 510 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: part of the reason why I think that I protected it. 511 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: I tried to. I did my best, like to protect 512 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: that like when I was there, you know, and sharing 513 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: with the people that I felt like I could trust 514 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: was and that already kind of had an idea about 515 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: it was because it really wasn't anyone else that's business. 516 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to make it a thing because 517 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: him and I dated for two and a half months. 518 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: Yes we share a dog together. But like I think, 519 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: just as a viewer, like to touch on what Becca 520 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: was saying. As a viewer, I was trying to think 521 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: of it as not being there before. I was thinking, well, 522 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: she didn't have a boyfriend. Why didn't she just say no, 523 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have a boyfriend. Let's move on, you know 524 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? Just the abrupt exit and not really 525 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: explaining and like just as you upset with Kelsey and 526 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: Tammy and not just being like, no, I didn't have 527 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: a boyfriend. People are lying if they say they weren't 528 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: dating someone or talking to someone like beforehand. Generally speaking, 529 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: people are gonna have someone they're interested in before they 530 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: come on the show. It's not like it's completely unheard of. 531 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: But I think it was just like, why didn't you 532 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: just say nope, didn't have a boyfriend. I think that 533 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: I did, and that I don't know if that honestly, like, 534 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: because I haven't watched, I've just heard what happens that's 535 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: not shown. So and I talk about it in my interviews. 536 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm very transparent. Obviously it's not what the viewers viewers 537 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: are going to see, So I appreciate you guys like 538 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: kind of like making me aware of that, because yeah, 539 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: that helps me in this um So, like I said, 540 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: when I'm when I feel like I'm overstimulated in my 541 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: like I feel anxious and I feel like there's conflict 542 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: my natural work like trauma response, it's just a completely 543 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: shut down. And if I didn't say, like specifically I 544 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: don't have a boyfriend, I wish that I did. Well. So, yeah, 545 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: because I want to get into that because one, I mean, 546 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: we did see you leave just very abruptly, you know, 547 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: you left before the first row ceremony. You saw yourself out? 548 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Was that so because to me as a viewer, it 549 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: seems like it maybe wasn't necessarily because of this boyfriend allegation. 550 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: It was more so the fact that Tammy and Kelsey, 551 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: two of your you know, I would say friends or acquaintances, whatever, 552 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: kind of went behind your back and didn't. Maybe it's 553 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: because they didn't address it with you first. They went 554 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: to James directly. Was that kind of what triggered you, 555 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: Like the reason of why you felt like this fight 556 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: or flight response were Okay, I just have to see 557 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: myself out. It wasn't Was it less about the whole 558 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: boyfriend boyfriend quote unquote, and more about how they handled 559 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: an approached Jeames in that entire situation. The night before 560 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: I all this happened, I pulled my producer inside. Now 561 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think. I don't think that 562 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: I should be here. I'm having a lot of second thoughts, 563 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: like and and he encouraged me just to stay and 564 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: to see. He was like, listen, you're already here. Let's 565 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: give it a shot. Let's give it one more day. 566 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: And then all of this happens the next day, like 567 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm already like I've got to tell James that I'm 568 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: not interested in him, and I really don't think that 569 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: my heart is here and I'm ready to give it 570 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: to someone else. Like I got here, I was optimistic 571 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: and really like open arms, open heart, like God, whatever 572 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: you want for me and this season, like I'm here 573 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: and I'm ready to accept it, whether it's love, like 574 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: trying to learn a lesson friendships, and unfortunately, like it 575 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: was one of those things. Once I got there and 576 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I tried, it was like, holy crap, like I'm not 577 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: ready for this. I was encouraged today, stayed and and 578 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: ultimately like I think that I didn't I that environment. 579 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: It's not was not healthy for me specifically, Like I 580 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: back here at home, like I have a support system 581 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: and people that I know that I can trust and 582 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: that love me, and that are willing to come to 583 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: me and check me if I'm wrong or like and 584 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: give me the constructive criticism. And that's that's not what 585 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: I got when I was there, Like I'm like, Okay, 586 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: you guys have an issue, and all this has been 587 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: talked about and assumed behind my back and not come 588 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: to me directly. Like I was really like I'm gonna 589 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: get emotional, you know, and going and saying yes to 590 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: paradise For me, it wasn't just like I'm going into 591 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: this with an expectation to find love. It was I am, 592 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: I know that there's a possibility that I could so 593 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: much more could come out of this and enlisting all 594 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: those things like friendships, like more self awareness, like being 595 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: able to have this platform to talk about things like 596 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: that that mattered to me, you know, because of Like 597 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: earlier you asked if there was anyone I wish had 598 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: gone on the beach. I really wish Leia had gone 599 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: for some of our listeners who maybe didn't watch all 600 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: Peter's season and know exactly what you're talking about in 601 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: terms of alia. Do you want to just give a 602 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: quick background and then segue into what you're about to say. Yeah, sure. 603 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: On Peter's season, I and this is pre therapy, you know. 604 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: I when I've always felt like before, I felt like 605 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: if I had an issue with someone or if they'd 606 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: hurt me, or I never knew how to address it. 607 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: Like growing up, it was always like, you don't say anything, 608 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: and that was kind of like the way that I 609 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: survived as I just kept my mouth shut and just 610 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: and like did what I needed to do, and so 611 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: I think that that carried through and on Peter season, 612 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: it was like I want to love like Jesus does 613 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: and I want to be kind, but in that when 614 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: you have an issue with someone or having an issue 615 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: with someone, I didn't know how to communicate it and 616 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: I failed a Leiah miserably and was really hopefu excited 617 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: to see her on the beach to be able to 618 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: apologize to her, like I mean, I've reached out obviously 619 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: and apologized like by phone, but I was really hopeful 620 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: to to take responsibility for the way that I acted publicly, 621 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: because I should have been direct with her. Looking back, 622 00:36:52,880 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: I should have, like, having the tools now, I would 623 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: have done things very differently, approached, approached her and addressed 624 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: my concerns and given her a fair opportunity to make 625 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: things right or learn a lesson or you know. And 626 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, looking back, I'm like, maybe I just had 627 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: this expectation of what I thought that she should be 628 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: and I was like projecting, you know, so I just 629 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: felt like I owed her an apology. You came onto 630 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: the beach, you know with maybe not maybe I will say, 631 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: not to potentially find love and find a lasting partner, 632 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: but to make amends with some of the females in 633 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: your life. And because I mean, and you've said this 634 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: multiple times, you know, especially when you were confronting Tammy 635 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: and Kelsey, that you're trying to use these new therapy 636 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: therapy techniques that you've learned for a better conflict resolution. 637 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: So going into that, you know, kind of knowing the 638 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: history with you and Aleia or whoever on Peter's season, 639 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: do you feel like you were able to take those 640 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: resolution skills into paradise in this conversation with both Tammy 641 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: and Kelsey, and do feel good about, you know, seeing 642 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: your side of things with them and leaving in the 643 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: way that you did, Like do do you feel good 644 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: about that? Good? And how everything ended for you? Absolutely 645 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: going through Peter's season and then after, like I my 646 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 1: mental health, like I was at an all time low, 647 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 1: like kind of being thrown into the space where people 648 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: are questioning your character and coming at you and like 649 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: online people aren't kind and I'm from a small town 650 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: where I've never really like had to deal with a 651 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: lot of that and so and then just I really 652 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: struggled on the show and off the show, Like there 653 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: was a point where I push show was like I 654 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: really had to lean on the people in my life 655 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: to help me get through it. And I had to 656 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: see someone in regards to my mental health because I 657 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: did not want to live anymore. And obviously, like all 658 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: that was really hard to go through and I had 659 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: regrets and I was like, but I like giving myself 660 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: grace and looking back, I'm like the way that I 661 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,959 Speaker 1: handled things on Peter's season, Like I I'm like, I've 662 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: since scotten therapy and I have this toolbox and I 663 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: have the ability to work through things that I have 664 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: no idea how to work through before, and I'm grateful 665 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: and I do feel like in the situation with Timmy 666 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: and Kelsey, like I was really able to take those 667 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: things that I've learned through therapy and to apply those 668 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, like to be able to say, hey, like 669 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: I'm setting a healthy boundary and I don't have to 670 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: like I'm not going to allow someone to talk to 671 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: me like this, like and then something else is I 672 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: and I hope this has shown is I tell them 673 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: multiple times, I'm like, I'm happy to talk to you 674 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: both separate about your concerns, but right now, like I 675 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: feel overstimulated like talking to both of you, and I'm 676 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: but I'm happy to talk to you both separately and 677 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: address your concerns and work through this together, like I 678 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: hear you, I want to hear you. I want to 679 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: work through this. And I think Tammy again calls me 680 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: manipulative and set and neither of them talk to me separately, 681 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: And at that point, I'm like, I just I already 682 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: was feeling like maybe I maybe I wasn't ready, and 683 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: I think at that point, I was like, I my 684 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,479 Speaker 1: life is so great back at home, and I'm really 685 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: I knew that that wasn't the place for me to 686 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: be anymore. And I'm like, okay, if I I am 687 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: proud of the way that I handled things because before therapy, I, 688 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: like I said, I completely shut down, but people that 689 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: saw Peter season saw it like I just cried and 690 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: didn't address anything, and I was able to communicate and 691 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: handle conflict with grace. I feel like and not perfectly, 692 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, but I think and knowing what I was 693 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: and how I reacted in conflict before to being where 694 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: I am now, like in standing up for myself and 695 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: saying like I can set the soundary, like I'm allowed 696 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: to walk away, I don't have to allow someone to 697 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: talk to me like this, I'm able to share what 698 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: I want to share, like it's not my personal life, 699 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: is not your business. It felt good. It sounds like overall, 700 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, in the past couple of years, you have 701 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: put in a lot of work to learn, you know, 702 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: you know we all have strength, strengths and weaknesses and 703 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: to know you know where you could learn and grow 704 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: and do better. And it sounds like you applied that 705 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: in Paradise and I hope that that continues. I mean, 706 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: we've all like every time you put yourself in this situation, 707 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: you learn something new, you have major takeaways that I 708 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: think like you can't expect and tell you go through it, 709 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: and so I applaud you for putting in the work 710 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: and you know, focusing on yourself and really setting those boundaries, 711 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: and I hope that continues. I think this is also 712 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: a good point because you know, you've talked a little 713 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: bit about mental health and setting healthy boundaries and conflict resolution, 714 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of our listeners would love 715 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: any sort of advice that you could give to them. 716 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: So if there's one bit of solid advice that you 717 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: could give to just anyone going through something similar or 718 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: going through, you know, this moment of growth in their 719 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: life or wanting to kind of better themselves and to 720 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: set those healthy boundaries or potentially go on paradis in 721 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: the future, what would that bit of advice be for them? 722 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: Therapy in Jesus. Aside from that, it's okay to say no, 723 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: it's a hey to walk away when you feel uncomfortable. 724 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: It's okay not to share things that you don't feel 725 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:12,479 Speaker 1: like comfortable sharing. And on TV, especially like it's it's 726 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: even harder because it's it's not just the people in 727 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: front of you. It's the people that are watching, Like 728 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: you're not just sharing with Like I wasn't just sharing 729 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: with Tammy and Kelsey. I'm sharing with I'm being having 730 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: to share with the rest of the world things that 731 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to talk about. If you're not ready 732 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: to talk about something, don't feel like you're not forced 733 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: to do that. If it's uncomfortable, You're not forced to 734 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: do that. And you don't have to explain yourself either. 735 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: It's some people don't are already convinced of their series 736 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: of events, and regardless of how you try to explain 737 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: it or rationalize or tell your side, like, there's no 738 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: convincing them otherwise. And I and like even now, I'm like, 739 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: you know what, like the people that are in my 740 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: life know the truth. I know the truth, and I 741 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: don't need to convince anyone otherwise. You know, Um, I can't, 742 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: like I always say, like they're I don't have regrets. 743 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: There are lessons that you learned through those. I feel 744 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: like I before I prayed, um, before I went really 745 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: like okay, God, like help me leave me in the 746 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: right direction, like where like where do you want me 747 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: to be? And I questioned whether or not my heart 748 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: was ready to give to somebody else. But I felt 749 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: led and called to walk into this as open as 750 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: I could. And I really think I tried to convince 751 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: myself I was ready to meet someone, but ultimately, like 752 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: and in the same way I said for Peter Season 753 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: walking away, I walked away with so much more than 754 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: just you know, finding love. Obviously I didn't find love 755 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: on Paradise, but maybe I know that I was called 756 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: there for a reason, and whatever that reason is, I 757 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: meant to touch someone's life. And even though the whole 758 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: experience was hard for me sometimes and most of the time, 759 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: it's not about me. It's about what God's plan and purposes. 760 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: And I said yes to what he called me to do, 761 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: and it wasn't what I looked what I thought it 762 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: would look like. But you know, I don't think it 763 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: ever really is. I don't understand now why things happen 764 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: the way they did, but maybe one day I will. Yeah. 765 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: I think everything can be taken as a learning experience 766 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: and to grow from it and have some sort of 767 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: takeaway which sounds like you are doing or you have 768 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: done since then. So one thing that we can clear 769 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: the air on because you know, I'm sure viewers probably 770 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: have questions, and that's why I want to give you 771 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: the reins and explain this a little bit more. Is 772 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 1: when you were leaving in your exit interview and you're 773 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: going home, you made a comment something about like, you know, 774 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: why would I search for what you know? Like I 775 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: don't have to be here to search for what I 776 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: have at home. And I think for viewers they maybe 777 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: took that as you have a man back home, but 778 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: there could potentially be more. You know, you keep talking 779 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 1: about your great support system back home with family and friends, 780 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 1: and so can you just explain that comment a little 781 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: bit more so no one has any more assumptions about 782 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: that peace, Like there's no peace on that beach. There's 783 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: there's none. So if I was in the moment, if 784 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: I was referring to anything, honestly, the only thing I 785 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: could think about was what a mess it was and 786 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: the people that I love back home. But I feel 787 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: like I would have never been in that position that 788 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: I was in and paradise with like my my friends, 789 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: my family, my therapist to support me, like my my sister. Like, yeah, 790 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: if I was referring to anything, that's what it was 791 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 1: and my dog. M Hey, that's all you had to say. 792 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I met the dog. All right, 793 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: There you go, people, you heard it from Victoria here. 794 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: Hopefully we put some of those rumors and the allegations 795 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: to bed from what we saw go down Monday night. 796 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: So Victoria, thank you for joining us on Bachelor Happy Hour, 797 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: and we're excited to see more of you of potentially 798 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: what's to come in the future. Who knows. It was 799 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: such a pleasure to have you on. Thank you for 800 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: joining us this opportunity, and just for being such an 801 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: amazing women. And I admire both of you so much, 802 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: so I'm really grateful for a back atcha. I'm hoping 803 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: that we were able to clear the air for a 804 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of the viewers and a lot of our listeners 805 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: regarding the whole boyfriend allegation. I feel like she needed 806 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: this moment to chat with us to kind of say 807 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: her side of things, give her peace, and hopefully she 808 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: has learned or had some major takeaways and can just 809 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, continue to work on herself. I feel like 810 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: I'm really glad that she was able to come on 811 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: here and speak about just how therapy has helped her 812 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: and setting healthy boundaries and you know how to work 813 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: through some conflicts because we could always be better in 814 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: those situations in those regards. So I feel like at 815 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day, she was already having second 816 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: thoughts about being there, already wanted to leave and just 817 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was right. And then once she 818 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: had that confrontation, she was overwhelmed and was like, I 819 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: got a bounce. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. It's and 820 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: as she said, it's not just having a conversation with 821 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: whoever is sitting directly in front of you, but you 822 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: open yourself up to millions of viewers, which isn't It's 823 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: so intense, and I don't think until anyone actually goes 824 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: through it you understand the weight that that holds. One 825 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: thing she said at the beginning, too, is that people 826 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: have so many assumptions about the couple hours that they 827 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: see on TV. And we are well aware because we 828 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: have gone through several seasons now, and you know, have 829 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: been in Paradise a couple of times, and have been 830 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor and I was the lead. Like, there's 831 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: so much that people don't see and the way that 832 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: things can be pieced together seems extreme. It seems so dramatic. 833 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: It seems like somebody is either good or bad, or 834 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: people hate or love each other, and it's like that's 835 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: not the case. There's so much more that people will 836 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: never be able to see, and so that people can 837 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: see every detail of everything and still decide that they 838 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: don't like you exactly exactly, it's it just is what 839 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: it is. So again, you know, I've said this a 840 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: million gazillion times, but at the end of the day, 841 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 1: this is a reality TV show, but we are humans, 842 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: we are people living lives, and it is a TV 843 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: and I know it. At the same time, I know 844 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: all the times you think that people don't get along 845 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: and that they don't like each other, and that's not 846 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: the case. Most people coming off of every season that 847 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: I've seen really do get along and like each other. 848 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: So I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you 849 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: Tia for joining me today. You know I love you. 850 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: It's going to be such a fun season to do 851 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: this with you. Thank you to Victoria for joining us. 852 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: I know that that probably wasn't the easiest conversation, but 853 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we were able to have it. 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