1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties, 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk through some of the big 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: life changes and transitions of our twenties and what they 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast. New listeners, old listeners. Wherever 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: you are in the world, you know the deal. It 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: is very great to have you here. Back for another 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: episode as we dive into the psychology of our twenties. Today, 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about something a little bit different. 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: I think Normally on this show we love to take 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: a specific topic and dive into all of the studies, 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: dive into all of the of course science behind it. 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: But we're going to step back for today's episode and 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: just look at the lives that we are creating from 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: a holistic point of view, and the ways in which 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: we can actually design a life that we truly love 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: based on of course, like some of those core propositions 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: and core theories to do with what makes us happy, 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 1: what makes us satisfied, what it actually means to enjoy 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: life from a psychological perspective, I think a big worry 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: for a lot of us in our twenties and me. 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Included is this kind of lingering question of how do 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I get the most out of my life. How do 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: I ensure that when the time comes and I'm on 25 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: my deathbed, there's nothing left to do, there's nothing left 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: to say that I can look back and be like, well, 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, wow, I had a really great life, not 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: just that I had a life that I really loved. 29 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: I think that very existential questioning of feeling like we 30 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: have to make a lot of decisions right now to 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: set ourselves up for future happiness can keep us up 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: at night. You know, we want to feel in control. 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: We want to feel like we have some say in 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: choosing what we want from these you know, seventy to 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: eighty odd years that we get if we're lucky. And 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: I think more than that general just sense of purpose 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: and general sense of satisfaction, we also want that daily enjoyment. 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: We want to wake up and be excited by the 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: lives that we are creating, but also the lives that 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: we are currently living. I think it's one of the 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: best feelings in the world when you go to sleep 42 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: at night and just feel grateful. You feel grateful for 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: your friends, you feel grateful for where you're at in 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: your career. You feel grateful for all the joy and 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: the happiness that you're experiencing and bringing. So how do 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: we make that a reality. I think it's, you know, 47 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: one of those big conundrums where at some stage you're 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: going to reach a turning point and realize that what 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: you've been doing so far might not actually create a 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: future that you're really excited about, especially during this decade 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: when we feel like we are on the cusp of 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of huge life decisions, but also kind of 53 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: at a crosswords where we're trying to make the best 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: choice for us that's going to set us up for 55 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: long term happiness. I want to take some of the 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: pressure off. I want to take some of the pressure 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: off from feeling like there is a singular decision that 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: is going to make you happy in the future, a 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: singular decision that is going to allow you to build 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: a life that you love and focus on those core 61 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: principles and five kind of practical things that you can 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: do that regardless regardless of what's going on around you, 63 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: regardless of what the world throws at you, regardless of 64 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: your choices, you can still be happy. You can still 65 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: feel contentment, and I don't think it's going to be 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: necessarily easy. I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, 67 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, just follow these five simple steps, you'll be 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: done in thirty minutes. Like obviously, not anything worth having. 69 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: I think comes with hard work, it comes with self reflection, 70 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: it comes with dedication. But the person that you are 71 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: investing in is yourself. That's what I really want to 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: remind you, Like, this is your best investment, best investment ever, 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: is to set yourself up for a beautiful life. To 74 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: set yourself up for a life that you love. So 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: let's talk through it today. I'm super excited for this episode, 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: and I think if you're listening, hopefully you're excited as well. 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: When we begin this process of essentially designing our lives 78 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: and designing our futures, we cannot go into this transformation 79 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: from a place of blindness. You know. We actually need 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: to identify those crucial points where we are dissatisfied, where 81 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: we are perhaps getting ourselves into a rut, Like what 82 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: is actually the problem here that is causing us to 83 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: want to take action? I think we tend to get 84 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: stuck in the life that is easiest for us, the 85 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: life that is convenient and comfortable, even though it's maybe 86 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: not what we truly want. I think this is because 87 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: as humans, we naturally crave our creature comforts and you know, 88 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: what seems familiar. We are innately scared of situations, events, 89 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: choices that are going to disrupt the norm. It also 90 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: might be that we don't necessarily feel like we have 91 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: the tools that are necessary to redesign our life because 92 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: we have become so stagnant and stuck in our patterns 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and stuck in our daily routine. We've kind of reached 94 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: this point where we've stopped believing in our agency and 95 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: in our self efficacy, which is essentially our sense of 96 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: feeling in control of our decisions and our future. That 97 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: is a really hard pattern to break out of, and 98 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: before we can build a life we love, I think 99 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: we actually have to deconstruct the one that we have. 100 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: And even if you are at like a seven or 101 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: an eight, or even a nine out of ten on 102 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: like life satisfaction, it's still possible to really raise that 103 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: ceiling for what you want and what you expect. So 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: this first tip, this entire approach of deconstructing the life 105 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: you have, really relies on choosing courage over comfort, and 106 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: challenging what you have come to expect from life by 107 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: identifying where maybe certain events and experiences are not contributing 108 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: to your expectations and shaping your life around that potential, 109 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: that potential for improvement. So what we need to look 110 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: at in general is kind of the four biggest areas 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: of life where we feel the most dissatisfaction. We have 112 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: money and career, of course, we have our relationships. We 113 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: have our health, which includes mental health. And then this 114 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: final one which I think we don't often discuss, which 115 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: is values and spirituality. And I'm including that last one 116 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: because I think it is a facet of our mental 117 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: and psychological well being that we often neglect. It's very hard, though, 118 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: to feel like you are building this life that you 119 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: love when you don't actually believe in anything, when you 120 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: have nothing to put your faith in, and that doesn't 121 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: necessarily have to do with religion. I think values are 122 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: equally as important, but more than that, a sense that 123 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: you have a mission and a purpose in life. That 124 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: could be a mission to improve the lives of others, 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: a mission to create something beautiful, to solve some problem 126 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: that we see. I think we all need something that 127 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: we're passionate about and something that drives us. It is 128 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: very hard to even feel like you want to change 129 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: your life if there's no direction for that. You know, 130 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: the other areas are pretty self explanatory. I think we 131 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: all know what it means to be dissatisfied in it 132 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: in a job or in a relationship, or dissatisfied with 133 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: our health. You know who doesn't worry about those things 134 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: at least once a week or even daily, You know, 135 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: because they are truly a foundation for a happy life. 136 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: The easiest way, though, to identify what your main source 137 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: of dissatisfaction is is to actually follow the stress, to 138 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: notice where you carry the most stress. What do you 139 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: think about the most when your thoughts are wondering, or 140 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: when you're falling asleep and all the busyness of the 141 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: day has kind of ceased. What are you left thinking 142 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: about in those moments? Is it? You know? I wish 143 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have to go to work tomorrow. I wish 144 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: that I was doing something I was genuinely excited to do. 145 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: I wish I had more friends. I wish I felt 146 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: more like myself in my own skin. Our anxiety and 147 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: worries might seem really scary and really frustrating, and we 148 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: might choose to avoid them because of the discomfort that 149 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: they bring. However, I think that is the biggest mistake 150 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: we make is and that the reason why is because 151 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: these worries, these fears. Firstly, when we ignore them, we 152 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: know that suppression inevitably will lead to these fears just 153 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: gaining more power over us because we are avoiding them. 154 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: But when it comes to building a life we love, 155 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: those worries are your best friend because they are shining 156 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: a bright neon flashing light exactly where you should be 157 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: starting where there is the most room for improvement. So 158 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: maybe you're at this point where I going to use 159 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: that example of like you're super dissatisfied with your career. 160 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: That's a really big one for a lot of us. 161 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: It's not fulfilling, you're bored, you're annoyed at your coworkers. 162 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes the reason why we continue to stay in those 163 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: situations in a life we don't love is because we 164 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: don't know what it means to pursue a different kind 165 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: of future, and we are scared of what that future 166 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: might look like, that it might be worse if the 167 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: life you have found yourself in is not the life 168 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: that you love. You really have a duty to question 169 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: not only what needs to change and in what area, 170 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: but what the potential outcome of a change might be. 171 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna explain this a little bit further. There 172 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: is an incredible book actually on this topic, and it 173 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: is literally called Designing Your Life. It's written by two 174 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: Stanford professors. There's also a Ted talk about it that 175 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I really recommend, and they talk about this exercise called 176 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the Odyssey plan. So the time between like our twenties 177 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: and our thirties is what they call our odyssey years, 178 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: like our years of exploration, where we are in this 179 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: strange vacuum between childhood and what we see is real adulthood. 180 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: And during this time it is absolutely necessary to test 181 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: in your mind different life paths or ideas about your future. 182 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: A lot of the time, though, the way we are 183 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: told to approach this is super limiting, you know. So 184 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: we're always told to think about our five year plan, 185 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: or what do you want to be when you grow up? 186 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Or what are you going to do next? What are 187 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: you going to do after graduation, after high school? After 188 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: this job contract ends That way of approaching the future 189 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: doesn't actually allow us to be creative because it suggests 190 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: that there is one answer. But the idea behind this 191 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: Odyssey plan exercise is to think a bit broader and 192 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: to come up with three different plans or versions of 193 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: your future life by asking yourself three questions. If your 194 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: life was to continue the way it was, what would 195 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: a day in five years time look like? Go into 196 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: as much detail as possible. We've talked about this before. 197 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: But what are you eating for breakfast? Who are you 198 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: living with, where are you living? What does your day 199 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: look like? What do you do for fun? Imagine that 200 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: situation five years from now. Nothing changes now, think about 201 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: what happens if this plan that you're currently living out 202 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: doesn't work. What would you want from your life instead? 203 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: And what would a day in your life in five 204 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: years time look like? Then? If this plan a of 205 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: this current routine doesn't work out, what would you choose instead? 206 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: Would it be any different? Are you maybe picturing yourself 207 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: happier or more fulfilled? And finally, what would a day 208 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: in your life look like in five years time? If money, time, 209 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: and social expectations did not matter, if you could do 210 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: exactly what you wanted, how do you feel then, So 211 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: I think the last question always gets people in a 212 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: bit of a tizzy because they're like, well, you know, 213 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: money and time and social expectations do matter. Of course 214 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: they do, of course they matter. They are so limiting, 215 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: very limiting. And it's not to say that you need 216 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: to picture this ideal life and live it out. It's 217 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: more so being like, if if you take away all 218 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: of these external factors that control our happiness, what is 219 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the core of your idea of a happy life when 220 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: none of these things matter. And it's really interesting to 221 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: see how this exercise changes the older you get. So 222 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: for example, when I first did this exercise a few 223 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: years back, I was twenty and I was, oh, my gosh, 224 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: I think I was still working in hospitality. I must 225 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: have been. I was still working in hospitality. And you 226 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: know what, if I was still working in hospitality now, 227 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: I think I would be miserable my year, you know, 228 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: day in a life five years from back then would 229 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: not be a life that I necessarily want. Now. My 230 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: backup plan was I'm going to go into consulting, which 231 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: I did actually end up doing. And you know what, 232 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: that life was really amazing for some time. But when 233 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I really thought about it, and I started contemplating that 234 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: fine idea of a life where you are not constrained 235 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: by money, time, social expectations. I got a better idea 236 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: of what I really wanted to do, and that was 237 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: to do something where I was creative, where I was 238 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: my own boss, and where I lived according to that 239 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: mission that we were talking about before. So this multiverse exercise, 240 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I think the real power and significance in it is 241 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: that it allows you to recognize what life has to offer, 242 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: and it allows you to not be scared when things 243 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: don't go according to plan and embrace the courage of 244 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: change and practical change things that you are going to change. So, 245 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: after deconstructing your life and identifying where you aren't dissatisfied 246 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: and how that might need to change in the next 247 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: five years, what it could look like, you need to 248 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: start prototyping and testing those different versions of the future 249 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: to start with, choose one area that you can improve 250 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: where you will se the most growth. So, for example, 251 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: we've talked about the career one quite a bit, but 252 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: health is another really big element of this, and often 253 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: it is a huge source of dissatisfaction for us. We 254 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: don't like how we feel in our bodies. We don't 255 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: like how we're treating ourselves. We don't like X, Y 256 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: and z. That is holding you back from a happy 257 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: life and is your duty to change it. So instead 258 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: of going in and being like, oh or nothing, I'm 259 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: going to become like the fittest version of myself. I'm 260 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: going to be so healthy. I'm never going to have 261 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: a depressed or anxious thought ever. Instead, what you want 262 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: to do is spend just fifteen minutes a day working 263 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: on that area of your life in a positive direction, 264 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: whether it is exercising for fifteen minutes, building your resume 265 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes, or finding a passion project that you 266 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: do every day fifteen minutes that contributes to future career opportunities, 267 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of texting back all your friends or giving 268 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: them a call, building that community. That little change is 269 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: going to go a long way. I think the reason 270 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: why is twofold. Firstly, when we think about like creating 271 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: our dream life, often we do think about this big 272 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: future right that's like twenty years down the line, and 273 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: that is so daunting, And when we just think about 274 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: the outcome, it is so big in our minds and 275 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: we want to get there so fast. We're such impatient 276 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: creatures that we forget that we actually have to be 277 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: acting on our dreams and goals. Your dream life might 278 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: involve a really nice terrorist in a big city. Sadly, 279 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen overnight, but it will happen 280 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: if you take fifteen minutes a day to educate yourself 281 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: on investing or to go over your spending. If you 282 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: want to one day write a book that you get 283 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: a hold in your hands and say, you know, I 284 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: wrote this book. I wrote every word. That doesn't happen 285 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: from wishful thinking. It happens from writing for just fifteen 286 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: minutes every day. And the fifteen minute rule really helps 287 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: us overcome our all or nothing thinking that keeps us 288 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: in a place where we are scared of even starting. 289 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: I think this fear of starting comes from a few things. 290 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: The biggest one to me is perfectionism. I talk about 291 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: this quite a bit, this idea of perfectionism procrastination. If 292 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: we aren't completely sure that our plan is going to work, 293 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: that our future is going to be perfect, why start? 294 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Why even begin? Because we are so held back by 295 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: this sense that if it's not exactly what I want 296 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Why should I put in the effort. Why should I 297 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: face the possibility of failing, the possibility of setting my 298 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: sights really high and not be able to reach them 299 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: and being disappointed. So that's one of the first reasons 300 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: is when we want to create our dream life, when 301 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: we want to change something really significant, it's very daunting 302 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of room for failure. And the 303 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: other thing is to do with analysis paralysis. Something that 304 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: I really like to talk about is choice overload. This 305 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: idea that there is a lot of different choices for 306 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: people like you and I in our twenties, and often 307 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: we think that having a lot of choice brings about 308 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: a lot of freedom, brings about a lot of options. 309 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: It actually does the opposite. It creates this thing called 310 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: analysis paralysis, where because there are so many paths that 311 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: we can take into our future lives, because there are 312 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: so many different things that we want to do. We 313 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: want to travel, we want the career, we want to 314 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: settle down, we want to go and pursue acting or 315 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Because there are so many different dreams 316 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: that we hold at one time, it is so hard 317 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: to choose one. So we don't choose any of them 318 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: at all that means that not only do we not create, 319 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: we just don't end up creating any life that we 320 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: love because it's so much easier, like I said, to 321 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: just stay in the place where we're comfortable. We don't 322 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: have to challenge ourselves. We don't have to potentially go 323 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: through mentally and emotionally unco comfortable experiences such as failure. 324 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: But I think the fifteen minute rule allows us to 325 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: get comfortable with the risk, and get comfortable with some 326 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: of the discipline that we need, and slowly see improvements 327 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: such that when the time comes that we might have 328 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: to make a big change, we already feel prepared. And 329 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: my mom used to always have this saying, shout out 330 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: to my mum, she's amazing, very wise woman. And you 331 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: know what, it probably isn't even her saying, but I'm 332 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: going to give her credit for it, but she is 333 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: to always say the easiest things aren't always worth having 334 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: because if everyone could have it, they would. And when 335 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: you think about fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes to devote to 336 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: just something that you really want in your life that's 337 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: really going to improve your life, the majority of people 338 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: don't take that time at all. You also discover that 339 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: with each of these these days, that you continue to 340 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: do something that you love and do something that's good 341 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: for you, what you're actually going to find is what 342 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: you really want in life. So I'm going to explain 343 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: that a little bit. When we set our sides and 344 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: me saying Okay, I want to do this thing for 345 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, say for example, that's writing, When we begin 346 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: to notice that that fifteen minute starts turning into an 347 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: hour or even more, you realize that you're doing it 348 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: because it's something that you love and it's become part 349 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: of your lifestyle. Creating the life you love is not 350 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: about huge, massive decisions that are going to completely like 351 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: move you to a whole new spectrum of life, and 352 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: they're not going to completely change your path in the moment. 353 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: It's also about building up good habits towards the practices 354 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: and the future that you want to build over time. 355 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: So we've spoken a lot about the planning phase and 356 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: what we can contribute to our lives through those small moments, 357 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: and you know that is really amazing to have vision, 358 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: But we equally need to identify the things that don't 359 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: make us happy. I think improving your life isn't always 360 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: about addition. Sometimes it's about subtraction as well, and I 361 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: think that's something that the self help space sometimes misses. 362 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's always a new lifestyle plan or a 363 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: new trending exercise, or a book or a product, or 364 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: more relationships or more healthy foods or more whatever. But 365 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: sometimes we actually need to be in the space and 366 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: the mindset of removal. We kind of need to, you know, 367 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: Marie Condor our lives and the habits that are holding 368 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: us back. It's hard to fully love the life that 369 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: you are creating when you are beholden to a nasty friendship, 370 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: or you are eating food that makes you feel unwell 371 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: all the time, or you have a routine that leaves 372 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: you bored and miserable and unable to wake up in 373 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: the morning, or a job that is completely draining you. 374 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: There is nothing that you can continue to add to 375 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: your life that is ever going to replace the things 376 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: that continue to drain your energy. And there's a quote 377 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: I saw the other day that I think really puts 378 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: this quite well, which is your new life is going 379 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: to cost to your old one, and that includes those 380 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: habits that hold us back that we might might make 381 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: us happy in the moment, or which are too difficult 382 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: to address, but in the long term end up acting 383 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: as almost a form of self sabotage. I have an 384 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: example of this for you. It's around drinking. And if 385 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: you listen to an episode I did a while back 386 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: around Should You Quit Drinking in your twenties, you'll know 387 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: a bit about this story. But for the longest time, 388 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: I had a really bad relationship with alcohol. I think 389 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: that I grew up really wanting to be cool and 390 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: really wanting to fit in, and also being kind of 391 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: socially anxious and alcohol. When I entered UNI, and even 392 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: like post grad life, alcohol is like the most amazing 393 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: social lubricant, and it makes everything feel more fun and 394 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: more free, and it's just such an easy way to 395 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: socialize with people. I began to realize though, that actually 396 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: alcohol was the one of the big things that was 397 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: almost acting to undermine the life that I wanted. Every 398 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: time I would drink, I would always I didn't really 399 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: know when to stop, if that makes sense. I didn't 400 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: really know what it was like to not drink every day, 401 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: and I would always kind of find a way to 402 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: kind of do that. And what ended up happening. Was 403 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: I was always completely you know, physically drained. I didn't 404 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: feel healthy. I didn't always have a hangover, but when 405 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: I did, it really like wasn't great. I couldn't be productive. 406 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: And I think that that's a great example of almost 407 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: like addition by subtraction, your life improving by removing things 408 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: that you might feel completely reliant on but which are 409 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: actually causing you a lot of long term suffering. And 410 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: it's about identifying what's a driving you to keep those 411 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: things in your life even when they're at the expense 412 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: of your future self. Is it peer pressure, is loneliness, 413 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: is it dependence? Those things all take away our ability 414 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: to control our lives and kind of be the director, 415 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, like we want to be the writer, the producer, 416 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: the director of our lives. We want to be in control, 417 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: not our impulses, not our cravings, not our fixations, not 418 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: our bad relationships. So I think cutting things out obviously 419 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: takes a lot of focus. The thing that a lot 420 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: of us make, I think the biggest mistake a lot 421 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: of us make is that we just want to try 422 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: and transform every domain of our life at once, and 423 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: we want to just do a whole big cleanse. Instead, 424 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: I want you to think about the one thing that 425 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: is holding you back right now, only one, and focus 426 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: on that put your energy into removing that from your life. 427 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: I always like to imagine the kind of final hero story, 428 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, what it will feel like to 429 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: tell someone one in six months, in a year, and 430 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: five years what that journey was like for me, Like, Wow, 431 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: that was a really hard decision, but I'm glad that 432 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: I did it. I can tell you that I did 433 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: this from the point of hindsight, being in a space 434 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: where that thing is no longer in my life. You know, 435 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I quit vaping when I was 436 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: twenty five, and not at forty. I'm so glad I 437 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: decided to stop drinking every night. I'm so glad that 438 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: I realized at twenty three that that person was not 439 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: good for me, and not at thirty when I had 440 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: seven years to act. And all along these things were 441 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: actually keeping me from being truly fulfilled by a life 442 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: that is my own. So we're going to take a 443 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: quick break now, but when we return, I want to 444 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: talk about a few more kind of joyous habits and 445 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: practices that I think we all need to apply when 446 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: designing a life that we don't just love but we 447 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: absolutely and truly adore. So will we be back after 448 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: this short break? I don't know who needs a reminder 449 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: of But life is meant to be really, really fun, 450 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: and there are meant to be really amazing moments, And 451 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: it's okay and totally amazing to be excited by things 452 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: and to be pursuing happiness and pursuing joy and pursuing 453 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: nostalgia and like ecstasy and like all the good and 454 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: happy feelings. Sometimes I think we forget that in kind 455 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: of the structures of daily living, and particularly in a 456 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: world that really focuses on material possessions and material wealth. 457 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: But if you've listened to this podcast for a while, 458 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: you will know that joy is such an important emotion 459 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: and such an important emotion for creating a life that 460 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: you love is putting joy at the center of what 461 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: you choose to do. We overlook this feeling in so 462 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: many conversations, and sometimes we overlook it for things like love, 463 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: and we are look for things like happiness. But joy 464 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: is so much more delicate and beautiful and easy to 465 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: kind of cure and easy to find. I think it's 466 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: also something that is so immaterial and yet such a 467 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: key ingredient to happiness and life satisfaction. I've actually been 468 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: looking into this a lot recently, and we're seeing so 469 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: much evidence for the power of joy coming out of 470 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of really huge research institutions like Harvard and Stanford, 471 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: all of them saying that more than money, more than fame, 472 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: more than success, more than even good genes, joy is 473 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: one of the most powerful factors in what determines a 474 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: good life. One of the longest longitudinal studies ever conducted 475 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: in the history of modern psychology and modern medicine focused 476 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: on what made a good life. They recruited two hundred 477 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: and sixty eight sophomores from Harvard back in the nineteen thirties, 478 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: and they followed them for eighty years, and then they 479 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: also followed their children, and these days only nineteen of 480 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: the origine n two hundred and sixty eight are alive. 481 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: But by tracking these individuals for essentially their whole lives, 482 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 1: so you're able to see exactly what determined longevity and 483 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: happiness and health into those later decades. And what they 484 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: found was amazing. They showed how protective healthy relationships are 485 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: for our health. How important empathy is, and also optimism, 486 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: and how things like joy and looking for good things 487 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: in your life even when they're not there and hard 488 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: to find, keeps you mentally sharp. It keeps you curious, 489 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: it keeps you excited. We are often really hard at 490 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: work designing our dream life that it means that we 491 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: sacrifice daily enjoyment. We get really focused on being productive 492 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: and working hard, and that negates a lot of the 493 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: significant beauty that we'll find in small, silent moments. So 494 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I want you to create joy for yourself and every day, 495 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: I want you to find three things that make you think, 496 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's really amazing that I get to 497 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: be alive. Is just so beautiful and special and human 498 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: and whatever. It is. The example i'd love to give 499 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: is this time that really sticks in my memory when 500 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: I was coming home from back when I worked my 501 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: nine to five when I was a consultant, and it 502 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: was really late at night. I was so exhausted. I'd 503 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: been working so hard those few months. And there was 504 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: this little girl on the train and she had this 505 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: big brown leaf and she was just twirling it and 506 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: patting it and petting it, and I was like, that 507 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: is the most joyous, beautiful thing is looking as like 508 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: observing someone else's acknowledgment of like beauty and observing someone 509 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: else's curiosity. And when I started looking for that joy 510 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: more often, my life did get better because in that 511 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: joy is also opportunity, right there's opportunity for adventure, There's 512 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to just have a better outlook about the state 513 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: of the world, as hard as that is right now, 514 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: and especially when it seems hard to find. Search for 515 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: those joyful moments, search for those three things during every 516 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: day that make you be like, okay, like this is 517 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: truly a blessing. I'm really happy to be here, and 518 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to make the most out of this, and 519 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to just actually enjoy my life because that's 520 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: what I'm here to do, I think, or up to 521 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: my fourth tip now, yeah, my fourth tip, and that 522 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: is to take time to actually be an interesting person 523 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: and not just about being interests, not just about being 524 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: interesting to other people, but being interesting to yourself. I 525 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: think we all know the experience of talking to someone 526 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: and feeling like our life is one dimensional in comparison 527 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: to theirs, and I think, especially in this generation, we 528 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time doing things that don't necessarily 529 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: contribute to long term happiness or really anything that good. 530 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: The one that I always think about is like scrolling 531 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: on our phones and just like spending hours and hours 532 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: on TikTok or Instagram or I don't know, do people 533 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: use Facebook. I don't use Facebook, but Facebook, there you go, 534 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Twitter x whatever it is. Those kind of activities have 535 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: begun to surpass a lot of the activities that previous 536 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: generations were involved in, you know, reading and being outdoors. 537 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: And not to say that there is like some form 538 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: of elitism there, but I do think that when you 539 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: are getting lost in your phone constantly and getting pulled 540 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: in by that dopamine, it is not going to last, 541 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: and it is not going to contribute to making you 542 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: someone who was interested in the world or interesting. One 543 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: way that I really put this into perspective for myself 544 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: was thinking about if I could remember the last five 545 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: Instagram posts or tiktoks that I watched, or the last 546 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: five or at least tell myself five things that I 547 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: saw on one of those apps in the past twenty 548 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: four hours, and I could never remember a single one 549 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: of them. I could not remember it. And I realized 550 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: that every part of my brain that I wanted for myself, 551 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: that I really wanted to keep active, that I wanted 552 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: to be healthy, was getting absolutely consumed during those periods, 553 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: and there were no memories being made. There was nothing 554 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: really going on behind my eyes. Sometimes that's great, you know, 555 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: it's really good for like relaxing and decompressing and turning 556 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: on our lizard brain. But is that really a sustainable 557 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: and healthy source of dopamine? And in this kind of 558 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: short amount of time that we have on earth, is 559 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: that making us someone who is interested and interesting. I 560 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: think that that's not necessarily a question that I can 561 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: answer for you. It's a question that you have to 562 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: answer for yourself. Is the time that you spend online 563 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: detracting from the brilliant memories and experiences you could be 564 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: making offline. So I think the reason that this has 565 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: a place in this whole episode around building a life 566 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: that you love is that you kind of want to 567 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: end things and be at the end of your life 568 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: and have stories and have moments that you can look 569 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: back on and say, like, I did those things, I 570 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: did that memories and moments that contribute to kind of 571 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: like the fabric of a lovely, beautiful, spectacular, interesting life. 572 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: Part of that involves really pursuing hobbies. And I know 573 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: that people kind of throw out hobbies as like a 574 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: this is just kind of like all healing antidote of 575 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: like just get a hobby, just do this, just do that. 576 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: But no, I seriously do believe that some of the 577 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: best people and happiest people in this world are people 578 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: who have something beyond themselves that they really enjoy doing. 579 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: They have something that they are working towards being better at. 580 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: Not because it's going to really get them anything material, 581 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: not because it's going to be impressive or anything like that, 582 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: but just because they're really tapped into what it means 583 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: to do the things that they love and do the 584 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: things that can true to not just a healthy life, 585 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: but a vibrant one. My final tip, and I know 586 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: I said five, but my final tip is to engage 587 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: in positive future planning. I hope for everyone listening to 588 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: this that you have a very long and beautiful life. 589 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Part of enjoying that long and beautiful life is actually 590 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: giving yourself things to look forward to and planning for 591 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: a future, happy version of yourself and what they need 592 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: to be happy. So there's this idea called dopamine scheduling, 593 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: where we deliberately not deprive ourselves of dopamine, but deliberately 594 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: put ourselves through hard periods where we're working hard, where 595 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: we're pursuing our dreams, with the knowledge that at the 596 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: end of that there will be some incredible outcome. It 597 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that you need to have that kind 598 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: of rollercoaster of you know, head down, bum up, really 599 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: hard over working, and then you can go on a holiday. 600 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: It's more about making sure that you take time during 601 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: your life to schedule activities and memories and moments that 602 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: are going to make you happy. You don't have to 603 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: wait until you retire to travel. You don't have to 604 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: be rich to have rich experiences. You don't need someone 605 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: to go with you to enjoy an experience. I think 606 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: that's the big thing that comes down to creating a 607 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: good life is that so often we are waiting for 608 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: the conditions to be perfect before we take action. We 609 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: are waiting for some kind of marker of success or 610 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: some kind of event that's going to give us permission 611 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: to do the things that we want to do. I 612 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: have a really sad story for you about this, about 613 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: a family friend of mine who's grandparents were married for 614 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: quite a while, and they were around sixty five and 615 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: sixty seven, and the grandfather kept saying, you know, I'm 616 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: going to retire next year. I'm going to retire next year, 617 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: and we're going to go on this big cruise. We're 618 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: going to do all the travel that we never got 619 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: to do while we were working. Next year will be 620 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: the year. Next year will be the year. Let me 621 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: just get a little bit more money so that we're 622 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: more comfortable. And she actually ended up passing away before 623 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: they ever got to do any of those things. So 624 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: I think, don't wait, don't wait. That story has always 625 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: stuck with me. And you know, I didn't know this 626 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: person quite well. I can't say I'm sure she had 627 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: a beautiful life, but I think just treating it as 628 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: like a bit of a folk story is important and 629 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: thinking about the fact that there are people out there 630 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: who really do wait their entire lives to cram me 631 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: in everything they wanted to do in the last ten 632 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: fifteen years. And I don't think that that's the way 633 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: to go. I don't think that that's the way to go. 634 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I think that there is so much beauty in giving 635 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: yourself the experiences when you can, whilst you can, and 636 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: as much as you can. It also just contributes to 637 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: more optimism about the future. And if we think back 638 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: to that Harvard study we were talking about, people who 639 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: have positive past experiences like kind of have more expectation 640 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: about future positive experiences. They have this sense of like, 641 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: there are still good things coming. There are good things 642 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: in the future, and I want to be there for them, 643 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: and I want to stay optimistic for what that life 644 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: will look like, even when maybe my youth is passed, 645 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: even when my bones ache, like, there are still good 646 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: things in my future because I am planning on them, 647 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: I'm rooting on them. So I think that is all 648 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: that we have for today. My five practical tips to 649 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: build a life that you love, I'm going to quickly 650 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: go back and remind you of what they are. Firstly, 651 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: before we can build the life you love, you have 652 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: to deconstruct your old life. Next is the fifteen minutes rule. 653 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: Start prototyping and testing what a different version of your 654 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: future could look like, and start implementing ways to bring 655 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: that future you into your current and present self. Next, 656 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: it's not all about addition. It's also about subtraction, what 657 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: are the things in your life that are not bringing 658 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: you happiness that you can realistically remove. Number four is 659 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: to pursue daily joy and of course take time to 660 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: be an interesting person and to be interested in yourself 661 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: and finally engage in that positive future planning. I really 662 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: hope that this episode brought you in your perspective, gave 663 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: you something to think about. It's something that I think 664 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: about a lot, in the sense of one of my 665 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: biggest fears is living with regret, and I really worry 666 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: that I'll get to a certain age and realize that 667 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: the things that I always wanted to do are no 668 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: longer available to me. That I won't have the money, 669 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: I won't have the time, I won't have the freedom, 670 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: I won't have the physical ability to do them. And 671 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: it's a really scary kind of idea to me. It's 672 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: a really scary worry that I might regret my life 673 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: and that maybe one day I won't. I will look 674 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: back and realize that I didn't take the chances that 675 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: I needed to. However, this perspective, I think allows for 676 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: that allows for the fact that there is not a 677 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: single thing in your life that is going to make 678 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: you the happiest person alive or is going to bring 679 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: you complete, utter fulfillment and satisfaction. It's a mindset. It's 680 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: a mindset of doing things every day that put you 681 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: on a path for happiness and that proved to you 682 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: day in and day out that you're investing in that 683 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: future version of you and that you are dedicated to 684 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: this current version of you and giving them the best 685 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: kinds of experiences, giving them all the joy they could 686 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: ask for, but also inserting that discipline to make sure 687 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: that you keep doors open, you have opportunities, and that 688 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: you get to really design a brilliant, brilliant future. So 689 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to this episode. 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