1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. And now your hosts Isaiah stand back, 5 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It is 6 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys here from the 7 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco. It's 8 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: a byeweek edition. Oh wait, it's not a byeweek kind 9 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: of sort of. It kind of is a byeweek, though 10 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: at least it feels like it's a byeweek. We'll take it. 11 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll take it? Or will you take it? 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I definitely take it. Heck, well will you take it? 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: I will? Oh he's showing off the Christmas tree, Rob 14 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Rob bye week are you taking it? Leaving it? What 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: do you? I'll take a bye, I'll take a mini bye. 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I got a Christmas tree for you coming up later 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: this weekend on your Christmas tree. Wait, so on the weekend. 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: You're not doing it? You're not starting now on the 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Christmas tree. No, just give me till the end. Oh, 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a tree off. Yeah, we're gonna have 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: a tree off. Am I gonna have to am, I 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: gonna have to bring mine to the studio and put 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: it in here. Chris is probably not gonna like that 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: very much, but I would no, But you're the prop 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: guy on the show, so do it. Okay? Fine? Cool, 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Rob said I could. I'll just tell him. I'll tell 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: everybody that, like whenever I walk in with a full 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Christmas tree, you you have a Christmas tree, You're gonna 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna put up. I don't. I don't have one up. 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: My question because I know Heckman has had his tree 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: up since uh since Halloween? But did you do you 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: have an elf on a shelf? Heckman? Do you guys 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: do elf on a shelf? Yes? We do? Did you 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: kick get all? You did your what's what's your else name? 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: What's your else name? I can't say. That's embarrassing. Wow, 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say tup tupacow. Yeah, okay, that's pretty 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: fa that's pretty awesome. But I'm learning more about you 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: guys as weeks every day. But hey, that's how it 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: is here on this show. Cowboys. What's up? Rob? That's awesome? 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: When are we going to break down the Ravens like 41 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Monday of next week? Like, what do you want to 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: do the rest of them? See Friday. Here's the thing 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where I was leading with this, 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: is that the Dallas Cowboys who played the Washington football 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: team on Thursday, we broke down that game at nauseum 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: yesterday and we were going to continue into today, and 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: we still are going to continue in today because there's 48 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: nothing else related to go go after. But I mean, 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: that felt like forever Thursday to Monday to finally break 50 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: down that game on this show. Well, now we've got 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: to wait forever because we've got till next Tuesday, and 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: that's just scheduled because tomorrow is when the Ravens and 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to play due to COVID nineteen 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: protocols and trying to get the Ravens outbreak contained. And 55 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: then the Ravens and Cowboys are scheduled to play next Tuesday, 56 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: push back again twelve days in between the Washington game 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: and the raven game. A Ravens game coming up for 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and like I, like Rob said earlier it's 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: a mini bye week. But at the same time, there's 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff we can talk about. But I 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: don't know when we'll start that that breakdown. Friday, maybe 62 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: we start we start breaking down that game. I mean, 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: we could just go six days, just go on one 64 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: player at a time, just go all the way down 65 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: the roster for both teams. They just do that, and 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: then I mean that would work. He liked that idea. 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: I do. I like that. That's dangerous though, but yeah, 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I like it. I mean, the NFL man blessed hard. 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: They've had a lot to try and digest and get 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: through this whole of a nineteen twenty situation, and they're 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: doing the best that they can. I mean, the Steelers 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: in the Ravens game has been moved what four times 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: now yep. So I mean I think we're just thinking 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: our lucky stars that they're actually going to be able 75 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: to play a game. But even for our game, I 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: think if there are any more any more of an 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: outbreak than there already has been with Baltimore, our game 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: may be in question. It's tough and rob whenever you 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: look at the scheduling and everything that's involved here with 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: these two games. Talking about the Steelers game for the 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: Ravens and then of course Cowboys Ravens. Is this something 82 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys needed in terms of a little extra 83 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: time after what was ended up being a blowout loss 84 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: in Washington, a very emotional week last week. Is this 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: something that the doctor ordered for the Cowboys or is 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: this something that you didn't necessarily want for this team? 87 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I think they definitely need it. That's just me speaking 88 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: the outside. I know McCarthy. Mike mc arthy said on 89 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: Friday that you know, will will adjust if we still 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: play that you know by that at that point they 91 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: didn't know if they were playing this week or next 92 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: and but he said, you know, we'll take it because 93 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: I think not only from a from a physical standpoint, obviously, 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: the injuries have been a factor because, like you said, Kyle, emotionally, Um, 95 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: this has just been really hard man. I mean, and 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: and I think Mickey said it, um. I want to 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: say during on Thanksgiving at the game, you know a 98 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: lot of young guys on the team that probably have 99 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: not experienced something like losing someone close to him, like 100 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: like Marcus paul Um and really and the way it happened, 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: it happened in the building where where he suffered that 102 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: that emergency, and so I think they definitely could use it. 103 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: And now the thing about it is, what's what's interesting 104 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: is you play next Tuesday, but it's a road trip. 105 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna get back early hours Wednesday morning, and 106 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: then you've got to turn around and travel. I would 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: assume Saturday the twelfth to go play at Cincinnati on 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: the road. That's that's doing them no favors with the schedule. 109 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: But but Heckma said it too. Uh, they're the league 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: is in unchartered territory here and they're just trying to 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: get through the season the best way they know how 112 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: and also give the Ravens some chances to get to 113 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: get healthy because you know, this isn't well. I don't 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: know exactly what caused it, but with an outbreak, they're 115 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: trying to help them as much as they can. Yeah, 116 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean the league, like you guys already said, the 117 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: league trying to figure it out. I think they're they're 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: in a bad spot. Um, but you know, I'm hearing 119 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: some things out of Baltimore that you know, if they're 120 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: forced to play it, that they they might do a 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: little striky strike and all the kinds of other stuff man. 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: So um, but there's there's there's implications of that as well, 123 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: because the NFLPA and in the league and lawsuits and 124 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. So this week is crazy. I 125 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: think all of us just have our antennas up just 126 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: trying figure out what the heck is going on. So 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: you're saying, if they're forced to play, the players, there's 128 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: there's word that the players are going to try to 129 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: do a strike because they're saying that they're being exposed 130 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: to you know, it's it's dangerous, dangerous conditions. I thought, 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: at least for the other perspective from a league standpoint, 132 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: it would be not okay to take away game checks. 133 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I was confused, or that's 134 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: where I'm confused by that. Just the fact that if 135 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: you don't play, you're not gonna get paid. And I 136 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: think you could say that about both the Cowboys and 137 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens if that game's canceled. The Cowboys were sitting 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: here saying, well, what did we do wrong? What happened 139 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: with us? Why is our game check getting taken away? So, 140 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different layers and factors to 141 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: this thing. It's crazy to talk about because, I mean, one, 142 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: it's unpresident and we never never had to experience anything 143 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: like this. I mean the season in general. I mean 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: we had a backup, backup, backup wide receiver playing quarterback 145 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: for the Denver Broccos last I mean, and that was 146 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: that was league induced. I mean, that's what that's what 147 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: we're dealing with right now with this COVID nineteen protocol. 148 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: But if you were a player, what side would you 149 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: be on? Would you want to be on the safe 150 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: side or would you want to be on the side 151 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: of let's play, let's let's do our job kind of thing? Um. 152 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean back then, I didn't have any kids, so true, 153 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I trust, I know, I know 154 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: specifically here, every time we come in the building, I know, 155 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're testing out the wazoo. So um, 156 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: I know that they're doing everything that they possibly can 157 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: to try to keep people safe. Um. At the end 158 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: of the day, it's it's a it's an airborne disease 159 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: that you really can't contain, right. So um, at the 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, there you know, people aren't getting 161 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: diagnosed as soon as they have on set, right they're 162 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: being diagnosed days after um, you know they actually contracted. 163 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's scary. It's a scary place for players, 164 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: especially those guys who are who are not single and bachelors, 165 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: the guys that have to go back home to their 166 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: families and and kids and all that. So it's it's 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: two different mindsets. I think, you know, the bachelor, the 168 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: bachelor guy that just came in the league versus a 169 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: family man. Um. I ran into a guy the other 170 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: day at the dealership and he was he's a basketball player, 171 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: NBA guy. He just he took the year off just 172 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: because he's like, it's just stop. Yeah. He's like, I'm 173 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: just I'm not playing. I'm not doing that to my family. Wow, 174 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I mean at the dealership. At the dealership, 175 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: wow with an NBA guy. Wow, that wasn't at the 176 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: mississ b see A Ford was go yow, we know 177 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: hey money he had was calling out Isaiah again for 178 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the second straight day in that regard. Now giving it 179 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: back if you're looking at it from a cowboys perspective, 180 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: and I know, the rest is something that's gonna that's 181 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: gonna play a factor. And of course you're you're excited 182 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: about a couple extra days to kind of sit here 183 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: and rest. But this is also a chance that the 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys have to to it's a chance to mess things 185 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: up to I mean, I remember, even from an employee perspective, 186 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys hr and overhanging or saying that, hey, you 187 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: got to stay home on the bye week and bye 188 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: weekend Thanksgiving and saying, hey, be careful. That's that's really 189 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: kind of what the overhanging arching of it is. This 190 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: is kind of unregulated, or at least it feels that way, Rob. 191 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Whenever it comes to the twelve days that you're waiting 192 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: to play this football game, this team has to show 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: discipline in this week as at the same time, I mean, 194 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: you're still gonna have practices, You're still gonna have things 195 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to work on, but you also 196 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: got to stay safe outside of that. And that's something 197 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: that I think is another challenge placed on Mike McCarthy 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: staff that I don't think we've actually hit up, Rob. Yeah, 199 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: but I mean they're they're going to be back in 200 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: the building here at some point this week. I know 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: the league asked all teams just as a safety precaution 202 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: coming off of the Thanksgiving holiday, stay home work virtually 203 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday of this week, and then I think the 204 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys were set to get back into practice on Wednesday, 205 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: now pushing the game back another day. I don't know 206 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: if they're going to change that up, because you could 207 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: do you could do your Wednesday Thursday schedule really on 208 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: Friday Saturday this week. But to your point, it's all 209 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: about the protocols and sticking to it, and that's you know, 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: that's what happened with Denver. There was a breakdown in 211 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: protocol with their quarterbacks, and that's why, you know, they 212 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: not only didn't have quarterbacks, that's why I guess the 213 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: league one had and said let's play the game. So 214 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: but I think the Cowboys are leading, maybe setting the 215 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: right example in terms of bubbling up with the staff 216 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: at a hotel. Now they have better, the amenities here 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: are better, and then I would imagine any team in 218 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: the league. It's unbelievable, it's first class. But that might 219 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: be a way that the way that teams have to 220 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: go down the stretch here to ensure as much safety 221 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: as possible to get through this season. The Cowboys are 222 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: kind of setting that example. I want to know what 223 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: Seattle is doing. I found out last night watching the 224 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Seattle game. Seattle is the only team in the league 225 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: that hasn't had a case on their team yet. Yeah, somebody, 226 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: Steve Leeper right, brought that brought up that point on 227 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the broadcast. I thought the same stat kind of poked 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: in my head. It was like, my goodness, that's pretty impressive. 229 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: And also not to mention, I wonder what their amenities are, like, 230 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you were up there, it is it anything. 231 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: There's no hotel right next door? Yeah, hotel. There's no 232 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Omni next door. I can tell you that is right 233 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: there on the waterfront. I mean, most guys live relatively close. 234 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: But I mean Seattle is a lot different in Texas, 235 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: in Dallas a little bit, and they've they've locked things down. 236 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: Things are pretty much locked down back that's a good 237 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: back home Seattle. So it's a lot different environment. Guys 238 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: were able to leave here go out and eat at restaurants. 239 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not hanging out with I'm just going 240 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: out to eat. I'm eating outside, you know, whatever it 241 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: may be. But you're still out socializing Versus a Seattle 242 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: you don't have that option. That's that probably plays a 243 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: pretty good factor into it. Now. Whenever it comes to 244 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: this week in the Cowboys perspective, where do they want 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: to start? Kind of leaning in terms of of work 246 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: do you think? And Rob, I'm kind of going back 247 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: to what you said a second ago. You said they 248 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: could start as soon as tomorrow in terms of their 249 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: practice schedule. But do you think they'll push it back 250 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: or you think they'll take these next couple of days 251 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: to rest up and then finally get into practice. I 252 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: honestly don't know. We haven't gotten an adjusted schedule, if 253 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: there is one. I just know that that Monday two 254 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: they were going to get back in the in meeting 255 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: space virtually today players basically back back to work off 256 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: the holiday today and then I think they were going 257 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: to do something Friday or Wednesday on the field. Now 258 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: it is an opportunity even if Mike McCarthy wants to 259 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: just to give them another day or just have meetings 260 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: on Wednesday and just get off your feet some more. 261 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: Um So we'll see how they do it. But you know, 262 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: usually they've got kind of three day set Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 263 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: and then they would travel. So you can you can 264 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: do you can knock that out all on the weekend 265 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: and then have your travel day on Monday. I'm losing 266 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: track of my days. I don't know it's Tuesday fifty 267 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: Tuesday exactly. No, Kyle, let me just add to that. 268 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: Let me add to that that you know, for the NFL, 269 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: this is our football teams are. For the Dallas Cowboys, 270 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: this is a logistical nightmare, especially dealing with the schedule changing. 271 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: You know how how much uh NFL coaches just create 272 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: that structure, and that's what you get. In the NFL. 273 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: Everything gets pretty much structured out. You're off on these days, 274 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: you practice on these days, you install your game playing 275 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: on certain day. But this year has been completely knocked 276 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: off kilter and you have no idea how this is 277 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: gonna go or the scheduling is going to go. But 278 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: for this team, coming off of that loss to the 279 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: football team, they may want to try and incorporate a 280 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: little bit more rest, especially knowing that the game now 281 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be moved out to Tuesday. So it's 282 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting how they played and how the week 283 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: is going to form. Well, it's gonna be interesting to 284 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: see how the week is going to form. From a 285 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: talking Cowboys perspective, because we've got to find topics to 286 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: talk about all week long. So tomorrow homeborway assignment, tone 287 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: work assignment for you all. I expect a four thousand 288 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: word essay on whether or not the Cowboys or the 289 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: NFL should go into a bubble for the NFL playoffs. 290 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: So debate back and forth. We'll read them live on 291 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: the air, and that's how tomorrow's show. So with that 292 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: being said, I'm totally joking for everybody listening, please tune 293 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: in tomorrow. We will not be doing that anyway. San 294 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Francisco is doing something like it that you're not wrong, 295 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: you're not wrong. Well they're kind of forced to, kind 296 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: of have to. Yeah. But with that being said, it 297 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: is a fan on the fifty Tuesday, and we've got 298 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: some fan questions to answer. If you haven't put in 299 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: your fan questions just yet, send them in the periscope, 300 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: tweet it at us, and we'll talk things over when 301 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: we come back on the other side of the break, 302 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: when we return on talking Cowboys. 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I needed to stop talking background dancer. 354 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: I need to just stop talking. Oh man. Well, anyways, 355 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: with that being said, now pack him on. I don't 356 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: want to hear what you have to say here in 357 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: the next final next couple seconds, because I know you're 358 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: about to say something along the lines that I don't 359 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: want to hear. Anyways, let's go to our first fans 360 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: on the fifty question, starting with Gary, Well, wait, actually 361 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: I forgot the stinger. Okay, wait, fans on the fifty, 362 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh it didn't fire off. This is this is this 363 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: is not just this is unfortunate, this is this is sad. 364 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: It's okay, though, It's okay. Chris Beams always doing fantastic 365 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: stuff in the back. So let's go to Gary's question, 366 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: the question for the fans on the fifty. It doesn't 367 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: appear that Ezekiel Elliott fits in Kellen Moore's pass happy offense. 368 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: With that being said, he gave us multiple choices here, 369 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: So so listen up. So A with the front office 370 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: this season, are you going to try and move on 371 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: from Zeke? B? Are you gonna cut ties with Kellen Moore? 372 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: Or see do they run it back next season? Let's 373 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: go with Hekma first. I'm I'm going to see run 374 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: it back. I mean, this is uh gonna be this 375 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: is gonna go down for Zeke is probably one of 376 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: one of his worst statistical years, and so I would 377 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: like to see what he looks like with a healthy 378 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean we've we've pretty much just that's 379 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: the point that we have to make with Zeke is 380 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: that he's running behind this makeshift offensive line. Is hard 381 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: for him to try to be the running back that 382 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: we've known him to be in the past. But I 383 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that I would rush to get rid of 384 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: one of the probably one of the best running backs 385 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: in the league to this point. Rob see run it 386 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: back and basically to what Hekma said that if they 387 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: could take care of the ball next year with Dak 388 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: with you think a healthy offen line, I would imagine 389 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: they put themselves in position to have more leads in 390 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: games and you can actually use ze because they didn't 391 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: give themselves chances and some of it was equ with 392 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: the fumbles, but they haven't given themselves chances to run 393 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the times because of turnovers and because 394 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: of deficits and at times situationally you've seen Kelly Moore 395 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: go to the pass and lean pass, so there's been 396 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: that too, But I think they need to be I 397 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: think from a play calling standpoint and from a personnel standpoint, 398 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: they need to be more balanced going forward next year 399 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: when they get healthy. I'm going with options to see 400 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: with a conversation. Okay, right, run it back, but Kellen 401 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: Moore needs to sit down. Mike McCarthy needs to called 402 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: Keller more into the office and sit him down in 403 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: a little man's chair. So Mike mccarthney needs to have 404 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: a big chair and Keller Mortys have a little chair. 405 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: He needs to say, Hey, we have this dude back 406 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: here who's a dog on goon and we need to 407 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: find a way to get him the ball. I know 408 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: that you'd like to throw the rock, right, I know 409 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: that's your thing. However, if you can't find a way 410 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: to get him his touches twenty times a game, then 411 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: guess what I'm going to take? Go? Rest offers a coordinator. 412 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: Do you think that conversation happens well before the off season? 413 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: Though I would. I would have liked to have seen 414 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: it already, but obviously we haven't. I think I think 415 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: it may have happened the week before last, and then 416 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: he was like, all right, I appease, coach. Now I'm 417 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: going back to what I know, back to so I mean, 418 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: there has to be some form of consistency there. You 419 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: have to be able to break your you know, break 420 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: your your habits, and right now obviously he hasn't. So 421 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: if we're a cuss, well, no, that's that's the thing. 422 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean. The last three games before this Thanksgiving one, 423 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: they were balanced. It was good, it was good. You 424 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: saw kind of what you're you're looking for. I just 425 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: wonder for you guys, like, do you think do you 426 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: think can run it these last five games with with 427 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: consistency without Zach? I mean, that's that's the question I 428 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: have because because I just wonder if part of Kellen's 429 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: thinking in the game was we just maybe against that 430 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: particular front, we're just we're running our head into a 431 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: brick wall trying to do it. Yeah, yeah, that's it. 432 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: You answered that. I mean the football team we just 433 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: can't run against the period because of their front. Maybe 434 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: we'll have more, maybe we'll have more luck versus the 435 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: Cincinnatis of the league. Maybe that would be it. I mean, 436 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: even when you look at Baltimore and their front, I 437 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: mean they're pretty stout as well, and so that's gonna 438 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: be another challenge for us. I know we're gonna wait 439 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: to talk about those guys, but that defense is hilacious also, 440 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: so you know, it doesn't get any easier, and especially 441 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 1: with the personnel that you have. You know, look, man, 442 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of sunshine coming through those dark 443 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: clouds for Zeke. So he's just kinda keep his head 444 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: down and hope for the best through these next five games. Now, 445 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: all four of us and I'll throw se as my 446 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: answer to to run it back. But with all four 447 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: of us saying run it back, I think that applies 448 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: to not only Zeke, but I think it talks about 449 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: really the entire offense. I mean, you're coming back, You're 450 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: hoping your offensive line's healthy, You're hoping those weapons are 451 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: still there and playing well and things like that going 452 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one. But my question, kind of based 453 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: off A Gary's question, is what should the expectations be 454 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: like with what has happened and what has conspired this year, 455 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Because seemingly your defense has seen vast improvements, even with 456 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: it being a little banged up as well. Your offense 457 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: has battled through adversity, has battled through these obstacles all 458 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: year long. Once everybody's back and healthy, shouldn't there be 459 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: higher expectations or what is that getting ahead of ourselves 460 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: before it's like, okay, let's figure things out and win 461 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: a couple of games first. Yeah, they need to win 462 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: some games. Yeah, they need to win some games. I mean, 463 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that there is an expectation right now. 464 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: The expectations to go out there and play a consistent 465 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: four quarter game. That's that right now as the standard. 466 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: Once they can do that on a consistent basis, we 467 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: can talk about expectations beyond it. Rob play consistent four 468 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: quarter game, Yeah, play consistent four quarter game and don't 469 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: turn it over. Because I don't know who's gonna win 470 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: this division. I think it's it's looking tough for the 471 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys based off the tiebreakers and technically being last. But 472 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: what's interesting, I just I looked at the at the 473 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: turnover differential for all four teams, and it runs in 474 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: line with the standings right now. Like Washington, I think 475 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: or the Giants are the only team with a plus 476 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: turnover margin, and there I guess in front, maybe by 477 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker. If that's correct, Washington's right behind him. Cowboys 478 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: are last. Cowboys are last in the league, I think 479 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: in turnover differential, like no, none of these teams have 480 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: a margin for error. So if you dig yourself more 481 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: of a problem with turnovers, you're gonna you know, to me, 482 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: that's the team that's gonna wind wind up in last place. Yeah. 483 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: If we're talking, if we're talking expectations for this team, 484 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: well next year, what they're gonna do to get back 485 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: to or get half winning ways. I think it's gonna 486 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: obviously come down to coach Mike McCarthy. My opinion about 487 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy prior to him coming here was one that 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: he stern guy one that the offensive either the offensive guru, 489 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: just a no nonsense kind of a coach. And you've 490 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: seen him lay into Aaron Rodgers at times where he's 491 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: made he's made bad plays, and other guys as well 492 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: for just playing undisciplined football. This is a this is 493 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: a new look Mike McCarthy here in Dallas, and I'm 494 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: just wanting to see him go back to that. I 495 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: think Isaiah brought up something yesterday that I thought was 496 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: very interesting in saying that he can hear what's about 497 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: to be played, so what called what's being called? So 498 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: he has vieto power over that, and so just I 499 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: want to see him vieto some of these bad decisions 500 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: so that he could come out looking a lot better. 501 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: Because right now, I mean, if you just want to 502 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: give like a grade on the way that this season 503 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: has gone, COVID everything that you can load into that included, 504 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: I still think, man, that you're kind of grading on 505 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: the lower scale because of some of the indecisions or 506 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: lack of good decisions. So you said you want to 507 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: see McCarthy vito one of these bad decisions. How what's 508 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: to say that he hasn't vetoed these bad decisions already. 509 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's a couple of bad decisions 510 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: that make it into actual play calls, and I know 511 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: he didn't veto those, but there's a couple of them 512 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: that you could say, hey, maybe he did veto this 513 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: there and the other, because there's no way for us 514 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: to actually tell from the outside looking in, right, I'm 515 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: sure of that, right, And even I say even with players, 516 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: I talk about the disciplinary, disciplinarian part of Mike McCarthy 517 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: when he was in Green Bay. We haven't seen him 518 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: bench anyone yet. We got rid of some guys that 519 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: weren't producing, and then there were those murmurs earlier in 520 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: the season about some guy on the inside saying that, 521 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, we don't trust the coaches or what have you. 522 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: I just think that that part of it, when your 523 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: team that there's decisions that's being made and you see 524 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: your team just I don't want to say quit, but 525 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: the bottom fallout on your team. I think that's I mean, look, 526 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: you gotta come back and you gotta recognize that, and 527 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna have to make up for with 528 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: this team next year. That's just my that's my opinion 529 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: on it. UM. Yeah, Mike McCarthy has. I am unimpressed 530 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: by him this year, unfortunately, and I was really high 531 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: on him coming in. UM. It's simply because of some 532 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: of those things that you mentioned, right, his his ability 533 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: to UH control a team, his ability to get across 534 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: his culture, his ability to get across his his philosophies. 535 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think that we have We haven't seen 536 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: that come through, at least not the way in which 537 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: we intended it to UM. And I think, I know 538 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: we all have had high expectations, but UH three and 539 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: eight is definitely well below, well below any of our 540 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: expectations for him coming in UM. And obviously he's had 541 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: a lot of curveballs to overcome, I mean, this first year, 542 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: as has any other coach. Yeah, there's a knuckleball, definitely 543 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: a check no allbuck for sure, But but I mean 544 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: he has to find a way, you know, when you 545 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: when you're and I guess just just as players have 546 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: to separate themselves from the competition, coaches have to separate 547 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: themselves from the competition as well, and they get graded, 548 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: they get critiqued as well by management. And I don't 549 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: think that he has responded the way in which he 550 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: has needed to. I don't think that he's used his 551 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: authority UH to enforce certain measures to ensure that these 552 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: guys are on the right track. I don't think he's 553 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: reprimanded guys, at least from what we can tell. I 554 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: don't think he's reprimanded guys in a way that is 555 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: conducive to a change in behavior throughout throughout his his roster. Um. 556 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that I think he could 557 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: have done. He's obviously Heckman is already touched based on 558 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: his play calling and his his his lack thereof canceling 559 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: out from what we can see canceling plays coming through 560 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: like I've seen in the past through other coaches. So 561 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: there's is a lot of things that I think that 562 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: he needs his self evaluate within himself, which I'm sure 563 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: he is because he seems like he's that type of guy. 564 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: But um, there needs to be changed, and he has 565 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: the power to control those things. Everything that he decides 566 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: not to not to change, he's deciding to allow. 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Bose Quiet Comfort Earbuds are the official 612 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: earbuds of your Dallas Cowboys. Kyle Yeoman's Isaiah stand back, 613 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison and Rob Phillips with you here on 614 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: this Talking Cowboys Tuesday, and I want to continue the 615 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: conversation that we had that Isaiah kind of brought up 616 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: a minute ago. And I know Rob, you were asked 617 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: this on the fan this morning, but I think it's 618 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: a valid question, giving that Jerry Jones this morning when 619 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: asked if Mike McCarthy has had the most thrown at 620 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: him and his first year as a head coach for 621 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, Jimmy said, no, he's not. They had 622 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: the worst first year. He said, Jimmy had the first 623 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: worst first year as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. 624 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that, Rob, or do you think 625 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: it is McCarthy because of the situation a hand with COVID, 626 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: the racial injustice, all sorts of things, and then everything 627 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: that's happened within the last couple weeks as well. Yeah, 628 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't here for the start of Jimmy. 629 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: I think I was like seven years old, but so 630 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: I would I would defer to Jerry on that, I guess, 631 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: but but I would say McCarthy just because what I 632 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: told the guys on the fan was, you know, when 633 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy came in, it was just a talent issue. They 634 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: were completely devoid of talent for the most part and 635 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: had a rookie quarterback in Troy trying to figure it 636 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: out and getting beat up to Holy hell. And in 637 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: this situation, it's partly talent because of the injuries, but 638 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: it's all this unprecedented stuff that we've never seen before 639 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: that is throwing a wrench. And just try how he 640 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: tries to schedule his team day today. And I know 641 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm sounding like I'm making excuses, but but this is 642 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: this week and next week is just another example. Like 643 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I feel like he walks into his office every day 644 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: not knowing what he's going to get thrown at him 645 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: and how he's got to prepare his team for the 646 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: every week because of everything that's going on and mass 647 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: wearing and all those things social distancing that are probably 648 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: preventing him from from establishing kind of that close culture 649 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: that I'm sure he wants with his team just because 650 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: of the nature of our world right now. So I 651 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: would say, I would say, Mike, just because we've never 652 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: seen a season like this ever. Yeah, I'm gonna say 653 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: all you have to say to that is twenty twenty. Yeah, 654 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: it's it's tough. And I understand where Jerry is where 655 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: he's coming from on that because when Jimmy Johnson took over, 656 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: you gotta think and they had just fired Tom coach 657 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: Tom Landry and so that is an institution here in Dallas. 658 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: So it was tough for Jimmy to take over and 659 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: then coach uh in that climate here in Dallas and 660 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: then not, you know, win one game. So it was tough. Right. 661 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: There's just media all over and things like that, but 662 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: no one has had to deal with all of this 663 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: COVID stuff. I mean, for the first time we had 664 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: a scrimmage with no numbers on the jerseys, you guys 665 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: had to do a three hour broadcast where we didn't 666 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: see any plays. We just listen to you guys for 667 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: three hours. I mean, I forgot about that. Let's not 668 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: forget about that night, all right, And so I mean 669 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: it's been so it's been so much happening this year 670 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: that has been unprecedented, and with the injuries and everything else. Yes, 671 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: if you can look back to that time, it is 672 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: comparable as far as what Jimmy had to go through 673 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: as a coach. But if Jimmy had to deal with 674 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: COVID and that at the same time, Man, we probably 675 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: would have lost double the games that we're not even 676 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: on the schedule, double double. Yeah, it had been hard. 677 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: We lost fifteen. We lost fifteen games there. Anyway, just 678 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: let it happen. That's that's the part. That's the part 679 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: where you just let it happen and move on. Okay, 680 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you totally redeem yourself, totally redeem yourself. Um. 681 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah again, I'm like Rob, I wasn't. I wasn't really 682 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: um running around here when when Jimmy was here. Um. 683 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: But McCarthy has had it rough man. But you know, 684 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm team no excuse, I'm team find a way. So 685 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm probably one of the least empathetic people that you 686 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: probably run into, maybe because some of the stuff I've 687 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: went through in my life. But you know, he has 688 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: a ton of resources. Man. He probably has the most 689 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: amount of resources at his at his disposal in the 690 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: entire NFL. And trust me, I've been around um So 691 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: he has the great the greatest support system, he has 692 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: the greatest resources. He has a great coach and staff. 693 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: He has one of the most talented rosters. We gotta 694 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: figure it out, man, I mean I can't. I can't. 695 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: I can't hit you. What's up? I gotta do this, man, 696 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: I gotta hit you. I gotta hit you with a 697 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: standback is m Listen here, Isaiah? You know there are 698 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: there are there are rookies that we had that we 699 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: didn't even get a look at these guys until August. 700 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: You know, so you gotta you gotta give him some 701 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: slack there. I know, team no excuse, that's that's real, right. 702 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, what we're what the Cowboys 703 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: they've had to go through, and all of the teams 704 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL have had to go through. Man, this 705 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 1: is for a first year coach, that's a pretty impossible task. See, 706 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: And normally I would agree with you, and I did 707 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. I was on the 708 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: train of saying, this is a first year head coach. 709 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: But there's other first year head coaches that are seeing 710 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: some success. One of them, Mike Stefanski up in Cleveland, 711 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: is doing plenty well with a first year job in 712 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland after turning around the team that was detrimental a 713 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: year ago. And Mike McCarthy has want to suit and 714 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: I know they've had injuries too much like the Cowboys, 715 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying this here. You have a defensive 716 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: coordinator that's trying to play a three four a scheme 717 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have the personnel to play it with. 718 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: Doesn't So if you want to talk about Stefanski and 719 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: what he's doing, he's already had a power running team 720 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: and okay Chubb as a running back to run behind 721 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: that you come in and implement Hollo time out, time out. 722 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 1: Let's talk about let's talk about you haven't you didn't 723 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: lose one, two, three four offensive linemen? Yeah, come on. Now, 724 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack and dak So, I mean, 725 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: I get a team no excuse and we want to, 726 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: you know, roll them up, but we can. You gotta 727 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: just state the facts on what's there. So if you 728 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: want to pull out Stefanski, please see the fact that 729 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: Stefanski asked the personnel to play the scheme that he 730 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: wants to. In the same on defense, look at what 731 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: he inherited with those first rounders. On his defense, I 732 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: leaned towards what heck said, Isaiah, just because I think 733 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the top guys that you need to 734 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: win games are in the training room this year. But no, 735 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: but you got to you guys point. You know, there's 736 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 1: coaches like like Joe Judge in New York. He's getting 737 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: praised for kind of putting his print on the program, 738 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: his culture on the program, and so he's been able 739 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: to do that. I think Mike's culture, Isaiah is like, 740 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: I go back to the turnovers, like that was his 741 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: biggest thing in Green Bay. They took care of the ball, 742 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: They were disciplined in that way, and a lot of 743 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: that's dude, Aaron Rodgers just being a Hall of Famer. 744 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: But they haven't gotten that part of it down with 745 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: Mike here yet. I hear what you guys are saying, 746 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: and I respect what you guys are saying. However, however, 747 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: you look at a team like the forty nine ers, 748 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: have they not had a ton of injuries? Yeay, have 749 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: have they not lost. Yeah, have they not lost the 750 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: guys that they depend on to go out there and 751 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: help them win games? Ye like, But yet they have 752 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: two more wins than we have. You know, you look 753 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: at our you look at you talk about the defense 754 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: as scheme. Don't run that scheme. You don't have the players. 755 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: Don't run the scheme. Right, even though that might be 756 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: your guy, right that you brought in. You made a decision. 757 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: That's a decision. You can't use that decision as an excuse. Right. 758 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: You tell me that he has the inability to run 759 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: a four three defense. No, he could run a four 760 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: three defense until he gets the personnel that he needs 761 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: to be efficient with a three four defense. We have 762 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: given up the most amount of points this year in 763 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: the league, in the league, and we have and we 764 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: haven't had a ton of injuries on that side of 765 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: the ball. So let's not make this we've lost the 766 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. But what's the excuse for 767 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: what's the excuse forgetting up the most amount of points 768 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: in the league? Right, So do some things or decisions, 769 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: some things you're handed and you have to deal with. 770 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: And I'm all about overcoming adversity. Trust me, if anybody 771 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: understands that. I understand it. Right. You find a way, though, 772 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: but you find a way. You don't find an excuse, 773 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: you find a way. Now, you could definitely argue, you 774 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: could definitely argue that they tried to do too much 775 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: defensively right off the bat, you know, given the circumstances, 776 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: kind of put them in a hole too. With that, 777 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: And I want to go with this defensive question from 778 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Johnny on Twitter. He said, why do you think the 779 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: defense can't hold up for four quarters? Is it fatigue? 780 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: Is it players? Is a scheme or a combination of 781 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: all three? And I think this kind of has to 782 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: do with the fact of what we were just talking about, 783 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: of maybe Mike Nolan getting a little a little out 784 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: in front of things, and because of that, and because 785 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: of the personnel that you had and the injuries that 786 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: you had earlier in the season, you weren't able to 787 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: compete the right way and weren't able to get everything 788 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: that you thought originally was going to work out for you. 789 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: But I'm interested to see what you guys think. Isaiah 790 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: will start here one more time. Yes, so is what 791 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: is holding the defense back and why they can't hold 792 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: up for four quarters. Is it fatigue, players, scheme or 793 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: all four? I think I don't think it's fatigue. I 794 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: mean I think these guys had you know, obviously with 795 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: coach Paul just just passing these guys, I've had both 796 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: of those strength coaches, him and coaching Nash. Those guys 797 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: are amazing, So I not know they're in condition regardless 798 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: if they had to do it virtually or not. So 799 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: that's not an excuse because everybody had their partner in that. 800 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: I think it's scheme. I think it was. I think 801 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: some of it was personnel early on. I mean I 802 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: think another portion of it it was just the guy's 803 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: not buying in. I don't think guys believe in the scheme. 804 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: So I think I think the se're talking about before 805 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: the release of Poe and Worly and maybe even Griffin 806 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: because of his I'm talking about it then, and I'm 807 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: even talking about now. I mean we're talking about now. 808 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean I'm thinking I think I still think that 809 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: some of the decisions that they're making, I e. Playing 810 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have nothing against Jalen, but like 811 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: Jalen has not been effective for us, he just has 812 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: it right. Maybe he's having a bad year like Zeke. 813 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, right, but I know that there was 814 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: a guy in there by the name of Joan Thomas 815 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: who who's doing a dog on good job. Prior to 816 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: having to get pulled out. He was one of our 817 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: most So you talk about somebody who's coming in, who 818 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: was making an impact, who was flying around and all 819 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: those kind of things, he just needed reps and continue developing. 820 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: All of a sudden these guys show up who get 821 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: a bigger paycheck to him, and all of a sudden 822 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: he has to take a seat, right, So you got 823 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, So there's there's things like that that I 824 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: think guys overall on a defense side of the ball, 825 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: I just think they came down to lack of communication 826 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: and guys just totally just not buying in. Rob Yeah, no, 827 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's been partially scheme and guys trying 828 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: to understand what they're supposed to do and buy in 829 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: and uh. And I think personnel wise too, I think 830 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: we're going to see changes on defense. They're definitely playing 831 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: better overall than they have the last few years, but 832 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: I think they've they need to add Like I think 833 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: what Heckma said, they need to add some more playmakers 834 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: that fit what they're trying to do schematically, and they've 835 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: got a few, but um, I just think they've from 836 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,479 Speaker 1: a personnel standpoint, they've gotten beaten by just better, better 837 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,959 Speaker 1: offenses this year, you know, by teams with more talent. 838 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: You know. My my take on this, guys, is the 839 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: fact that our defense don't know what the hell they're doing. 840 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: And you see that with some of the you know, 841 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: last minute of the alignments and Troy Egmans called them 842 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: keystone cops. I mean, that's the only way to kind 843 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: of put it together, the way that they're running around 844 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: pre snap. Even on the interception by Jalen, he was 845 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: out of position in the ball just seemingly fell in 846 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: his lap, you know. And we haven't talked about that interception. 847 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: Maybe stay away from it for Isaiah, but you know, 848 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: I just feel like this defense, the scheme that they're playing, 849 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: doesn't fit the personnel that they have. You're asking for 850 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: three guys and now be three four two gap of 851 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: signment alignment kind of guys and read there read the 852 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: offensive lineman that may not have been their skill set. 853 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: And again without OTAs and all of those things, it 854 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: increased that and if you think you can teach that 855 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: through the season for guys that have been playing a 856 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: certain scheme their entire career, you're wrong. And this is 857 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: the byproduct of it, right. And look, we're lighting the 858 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: loafers up front. You see guys that play the three four, 859 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 1: they're bigger guys. They are a bigger guys like Klaias 860 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: Campbell that can play that two gap of signment easier. 861 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: Their defensive ends are bigger because of the responsibilities of 862 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: holding up tackles and not getting pushed it inside. We 863 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: see Tank Lawrence's that's been that's been happening to him 864 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, he's been coming on strong with 865 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: the sacks and things like that. But we are susceptible 866 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: in the run and god man, let's tell our secondary 867 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: just our safeties. What do I have to say about 868 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: the performance of these guys. I mean, and even if 869 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: you're looking for some type of leadership, your play has 870 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: to make dictate that you're a leader. So who are 871 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: we going to look to? I like it. That's a 872 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: good way to end this show. Let's go drop the 873 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: mic e my heros face dropped it fantastic. Well, that's 874 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Here for us, here on talking cowboys. 875 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: That's the way to end the show. I love it. Anyways. 876 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: With that being said, we will be back tomorrow nine 877 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: thirty right on the Dot. Will be ready to go. 878 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know what we're gonna talk about tomorrow. 879 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to figure something out and have some fun. 880 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and if you are, if you want, 881 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 1: start sending all of your your your your baked goods 882 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: and your treats to Chris Beam in the back because 883 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna ask him about maybe doing fan 884 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: calls and maybe trying to get on the phone. I 885 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna happen. Right start buttering them up. 886 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: We got we gotta start. Bring your bring your smoked 887 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: mac and cheese. HECMA, get Nikki to make some of 888 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: the stuff that she made for Thanksgiving and all of 889 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: that stuff. We'll just bring it all to Chris and 890 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: we'll bring it all in pans and hopefully we'll get 891 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: some fan calls tomorrow. But with that being said, we'll 892 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. Fan calls are not for Isaiah, stand 893 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: back for Heckma Harrison, Rob Phillips and the Great Chris 894 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: beam in the back, the best producer the world has 895 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: ever seen. I'm Kyle Yeoman, saying so long from the 896 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: star in Frisco, We'll see you tomorrow, and talking Cowboys. 897 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 898 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.