WEBVTT - Amaro's One-Eighty w/ Danny Pino 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.560 Of the law and order franchises. S VU is considered 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:04.640 especially watchable. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.440 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:08.320 vicious felonies. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.879 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:31.520 Done done, Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up an 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.600 SVU podcast. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.879 I'm Kara Klank and I'm Liza Traeger. We're coming to 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.839 you fast and loose. We talk to a SVU crime. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.360 Sometimes we have guests, and today we have a big guest, 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:44.320 Big guests. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.879 Big big guests, today, big episode. Yeah, this is going 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:49.520 to be a thrill. 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.680 I also, you know, so since last episode you did 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.720 watch the got Meic Nikki Glazer videos, I'd like you 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:57.840 to address. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.840 And I would and I would like to address the 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:02.440 and stam corrected. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:03.080 No. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.200 I literally was like, I'm sure it's just similar premises. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:08.880 But when I saw the side of my side, I 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.600 was like, fuck, that's uh. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.160 That's really word for word, babe. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.080 But yeah, it's shocking too, because god, Maic is like 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.600 such a perfectionist and also pretty funny, and I'm sure 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.160 could have thought of things on her own, so it's 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.360 really it's really strange. But also I was talking to 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.919 somebody about this and they were like, yeah, that's like TikTok. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:32.880 People kind of just are like, yeah, you can kind 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:34.560 of just like take other things and like make them 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.319 your own. Like it's sort of like a thing people 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.360 think they can do now and it's like, no, you 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.960 can't do that, not with my jokes. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.000 I don't think. I don't think so like you can 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:45.800 rip things. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:47.960 I don't know, but yeah, I get what he's saying 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.960 because all of us like there's a topic and then 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.760 suddenly everyone's doing videos about. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:52.920 It, and it's like you didn't come up with it. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:54.000 Like I think about the. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.000 Christmas stocking a lot, and it is a valid thing, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.360 like all these moms don't No one fills up they're stalking, yes, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.000 but then all these videos of like if you don't 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.840 fill up your stocking, it's like, but you didn't know 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:06.200 about that. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.560 This isn't your idea, This isn't some big take. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.040 And right now I actually did get into the comments 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.280 because I'm really annoyed with people right now being like and. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:15.400 I'm not tipping. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.320 If I'm it's like, oh that then don't tip, Like 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.000 what are you doing? What are you doing? I don't 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.240 understand it? Toxic tipping culture. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.239 No is an option, it's not. Yeah, if no wasn't 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.440 an option, there's a conversation. I'm forced to tip. I'm 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.120 living in a you know, a tip for. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:37.760 It's not. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.680 No is a button in an option. So what's the 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.679 actual big deal? Yeah, people want your money, tell them no. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.440 People also call be like donate to this. You say no, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.960 it's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's very true. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.799 I I do like Robbie Hoffman's bit about it. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.040 Well, you know, I don't. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.440 She's just funny to me because she's like a Larry 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.720 David character to me. So she's like, what is this? 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.320 I got a they're giving me a number. I gotta 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.440 bring it to my own like it was making me laugh. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.440 But that's just her. I agree. I am annoyed too. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.000 I don't like. I don't like that kind of service. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.880 It happens a lot in LA. I don't love it. Yeah, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.560 I love certain places. I have to fill up my 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.200 own water cup? What are we doing here? 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.440 Is that not catching on as much? In New York? 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.880 I still hit it. I still hit the tips, So 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.799 go fuck yourselves. No, the number thing is very LA. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.720 It's very that's very much yeah, I'm sorry. I mean, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:30.480 I'm sure there's. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.079 What we're talking about is like you go up to 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.200 a counter, you order, you take a number, they bring 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.480 you your food, but you're expected to sort of you're 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.280 sort of expected to still tip twenty percent even though 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.200 you're not getting like continuous service, like you're literally just 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.160 getting somebody dropping your meal at your table. And I 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.800 think that's what people's issue is. But I was wondering 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.680 if that had not like hit New York as hard. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.200 But it is very large. I'm sure it is. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:52.920 It's not like you know, I'm not I haven't gone 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.520 all over that, but it's to me, it's an la thing, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.160 very common. Yes, yeah, just the but's if it's the 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.200 culture of you know, the kind of lunches they're doing. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:05.960 I feel if you're gonna have lunch here, you're either 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.680 somewhere fancy, like you're going to Chipriani or something, or 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.720 you're going to pret You're going to pre sitting on 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.200 a stair, So I know, I think it's just like 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.120 a little different. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.479 Wow, you really like that one. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.479 I do like that you are going to pret and 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.640 you're sitting on a museum step and you're trying to 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.239 stop the birds from eating your food. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:25.159 That's what you're doing. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.560 Well, what else is going on with you besides talking culture? 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.040 I did want to know, you know, about Rosie's zoo 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.520 camp experience. But I had an animal encounter. Oh, and 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.200 it's one of my favorite categories of animal encounter. But 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.599 I was with some friends in a pool and we 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.320 had snacks over there, and then I look up and 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.680 I see a bird with a potato chip in its 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.040 mouth flying and. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.599 It kept going out on a ship hustle. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.039 I love an animal with food in its mouth that 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.599 it stole from humans, like It's one of my favorite things. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.800 So to see a bird flying with a chip really 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.640 made me happy. But our friends were at Coney Island 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:10.039 and one with the games won a giant seagull with 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.520 a French fry in its mouth, which kind of reminds 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.640 me of the drag Race UK challenge with the bag 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.960 of chips and all the fries and like the wind. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.719 Yes, I'm remembering that vaguely. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:28.360 Yes, listen, I was pretty jealous when I saw that 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.520 he won that, but you know, stay tuned, I might 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:32.000 win it too. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.280 I'm not bad at those games. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:39.159 I the birds also near the beach Coney Island stuff 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.520 like that they are or like near the Santa Monicappier, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.120 they're ballsy, like they've swooped down and taken a full 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.240 scoop of ice cream off my friend's cone once, like 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.240 they're they don't give a fuck, They're just swooping. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:49.520 Wow. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.760 I also read read the Internet told me and I 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.880 didn't even check a fact, but that pigeons used to 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.640 be like dot like they were chip. They were our 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.120 pets and did errands for people, like you know, the 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.120 letters and stuff. Yes, and then one day we just went, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.200 you're the get out of here, you see flying rahet? 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.960 Yeah? And I don't I don't know. I don't know. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:09.880 It's so interesting. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.000 I mean, Dennis Leary used to do this like bit 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.159 that I liked and when I was like in middle 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.600 school about like what's the process of like of Like 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.839 he's like animals go up to like God or whatever 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.280 and are like, what are you I do? 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:22.920 I'm a seal. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.080 I do cute little human like tricks with my hands. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.040 You can go, And then it's like, what are you 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.359 a cow? Get on the fucking truck, Like we just 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.640 decide what animals were gonna eat and treat like shit, 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.440 and then what animals are like too cute? I'm telling you, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.360 Rosie is obsessed with the axel Lottle. We talked about 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.159 it this morning at length. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.960 Wow. Wow, that's funny. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.040 She wants to get one. She's like, can we get one? 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.200 I'm like, I don't, are they a pet? I don't 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.160 know if they're pets. I think they are. I think 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.840 some of our listeners have told us they have pet 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.200 axel Lottle since we brought it up. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:51.920 I think that hand. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.520 I mean, the day that you crack and get a pet, 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:59.320 that's gonna be you know, inevitable, but you know that's 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:00.480 that's gonna be interesting. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.440 I am sort of warming up to the dog idea, 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.280 but I have to work on Jared. I just finished 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.720 a book yesterday. It's sorry this is totally off topic, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.440 but I have famously been barely reading since I had children, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.640 and I did finish a book that I really loved 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.000 called Educated. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:18.680 I don't know if you've heard of it, but. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.280 It's like this girl grows up in like a fundamentalist 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.200 Mormon family off the grid, like not only are they Mormon, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.640 but like it's not fundamentalist, Like there's not it's not polygamy, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.800 but it's like no hospitals, nothing with the government, didn't 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.640 send any of them to school. And this girl like 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.680 is the youngest of the family and it's just like 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:42.240 her life and like her pursuit of education, and it's 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.000 it was fascinating, Like I loved it. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.040 I thought it was really great. It came out in 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:46.720 twenty eighteen. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.720 Like I'm not new on this book, but and I 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.920 think it won a lot of prizes and shit, but 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.640 really really fascinating stuff and like misogyny, you know, like 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.680 pumped through it. It's like some of the kids could 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.800 most of the kids didn't go to school ever, but 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.120 like the dad would be like, your brother has to 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.000 go to school. He's a genius. We got to get 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.040 him into college. And it's like your daughter is like 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.320 a full genius as well. Like it's like they just 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.840 want her in the kitchen making sandwiches, and like, you know, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.720 there's a lot of obviously. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.000 This is reminding me. I'm just you know, the movie. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.360 Games are just rushing through my head at all times. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.600 And Strands made it out of beta, by the way, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.960 Wow wow, Frands on the New York Times Games it's 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:26.480 out of. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:30.040 Beta it's a game. They picked it, and this is 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.319 a day for us. I'm excited we have I feel 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.439 like we have something to do with that. We've been 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.000 we've been yelling about strands to the rooftop. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.160 Actually it was out last weekend and at one point 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.480 like it was a bigger group. And son, I hear 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.960 a friend go, oh, she loves strands more than anyone. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:50.280 I know. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:58.640 I heard it from across the sidewalk, but I was 0:08:58.720 --> 0:08:59.280 just looking up. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.000 There's some show. Oh I had to watch. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.080 I don't even remember what network, but I was reading 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:09.120 about it, probably on Vulture. But it's like a dude 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.280 that keeps his adult daughters under like in this kind 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:17.760 of you know, regressed trapped situation. And yeah, it's like 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.080 a man and his three adult daughters and he's ruining 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:20.760 their lives. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.719 And I was like, I gotta fucking watch this. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.400 And now I don't Maybe if I go through my 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.120 history on the internet, I don't know if it's worth it. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.800 Can you you gotta talk while I do this? 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.520 Okay, No, I'm trying to think, like, I don't know 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.120 if I have Well, I'll just tell you about Rosie 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.920 Zoo Camp. She did go to a zoo camp and 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.760 it was again one of the greatest weeks of her 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:41.520 life this week year. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.679 This week she had friends. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.720 And dog Tooth. Dog Tooth? Is this from two thousand 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.440 and nine. Oh, it's a it's a movie. Okay, it's 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:54.440 a k what's his name? Your ghost Lanthemos Oh, a controlling, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.520 manipulative father locks his three adult offsprings in a state 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.880 of perpetual childhood by keeping them prisoner. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.760 Then the sprawling family compound. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.800 Oh, and I think it might be Greek, right, I 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.560 don't know. The actors all have Greek names. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:11.679 Casey is nodding, yeah, because Vulture did is do did a? 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.280 You know, they do these lists of his movies in 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.160 a row of the best to work, you know, like, yeah, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.800 I rate them and this was number one and I 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.200 love the favorite, So I really got to watch this 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.520 and his fucking name comes up in those games. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.280 I'm like interested though, if you're if you would like 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:28.640 like other of his movies, like. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.000 I hated a lot. I started and adding My. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.800 Sacred Dear is like it made my skin crawl, Like 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.080 there's some of his his movies are just like very 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:39.360 all different. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:40.680 I feel like so different. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.080 Maybe I'll hate it. It's worth a shot to not, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.720 you know, be productive in life. I'll find something to 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.800 do and I guess I'll watch Dog tooth. But yeah, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.200 the lobster to me, I was crap. I was like, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.520 get me out of this hell misery. I don't think 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.839 I even made it fifteen minutes. I really don't think so. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.880 Before I was well, I'm not keeping my dn confined 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.280 in a compound. But I did keep Rosie confined in 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.480 zoo camp for a week, and she fucking loved it. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.480 She saw three bat nurseries. She was obsessed with the 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.560 I can't believe her luck. She said, there's a fox 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.120 named Kara at the zoo. At the zoo, she was like, Mom, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.120 you won't believe this. There's a fox na Kara, And 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.720 there's there is actually an orangutang named Rosie that we 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.439 did meet the last time we all went to the zoo. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:23.800 So we're really we're. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.079 Really loving the zoo moments these days. And now she's 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.240 at an art camp this week. She made a beautiful 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:32.440 print yesterday. You know she's thriving. She's thriving in the 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.000 La summer heat. Yes, yes, and it's fucking hot here 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.480 and we are pooling it up as much as we can. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.640 Hot hot, hot, Yeah you got a pool. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.199 I mean I already sent like a pool type meme 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.880 with someone I know has that has a pool on 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.840 their apartment building, being like hello, wel and he's. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:49.880 Like, you're invited. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.199 But I just I just don't want to know how 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.080 shameless I can be with people, like can I just 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.800 message and go can I come to the pool or 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.280 what like yeah, yeah, I'm not going to lunch though, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.760 you know what I mean, this is a pool based 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:06.640 hang and I can't really pretend that there's not a. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.160 Pool in New York City in your building. People are 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.240 probably throwing their friendship that. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.280 You left right last summer. Like I can't even imagine that. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.320 I can't think of a person I knew with a 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.720 pool in New York or access to it. And I 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:25.800 babysat for some rich ass people. That's really luxurious. Yeah 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.480 you know it is, it really is. And lucky to 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.400 know him. So we'll see, we'll see. What do we 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.960 want to talk about this Jack the Ripper thing or no? 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.920 Well yeah, so may let's see. Let me get to 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:40.520 the article. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.240 So this is from art net, which I don't know 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.280 if this is what's it called respected? I don't know, 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.600 but it came out May twenty four so not too 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.920 long ago. But it's a theory. Was Edgar Dega the 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:55.079 ga right, the god? 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:55.680 Yeah? 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:00.800 Actually actually Jack the Ripper, This dogged ticked talker has 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:01.320 a theory. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.720 What is dog What does this mean? Dogged? Dogged? What 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:05.840 is that? Yeah? 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.160 Like dogged is like relentless, like when if you're like, yeah, 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.000 it's like relentless. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:12.559 Relentless TikToker. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.839 Okay, so this TikTok so, this whole thing is because 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.200 of a TikToker, a maniac. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:16.559 Okay. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.080 The impressionist artists spent time in London, she pointed out, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.640 and she's always find his art a bit creepy. So 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:28.079 I guess there's like journals and his art is, yeah, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.520 just very anatomy. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:30.640 He was friends with the surgeon. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.920 His travel things like I wouldn't put a past to 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:33.880 any man to murder. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:35.679 The best is like that. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.559 They say that the TikToker is like laying out her 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.880 theory in a denim jacket in the passenger seat of 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.600 her twenty fourteen Hundai Santa fe Like that's shade. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.440 That's where they're shading her. So hard. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.560 Well, yeah, maybe Artnett is you know the snabby art 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:59.400 website we wanted because that is so rude. Yeah show, yeah, 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:00.480 but she knows it's crazy. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:05.719 She's like, hear me out she Oh, she. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.920 Was on her way to the doctors with a fever. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.080 She should have really left that part out. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:11.960 But art Nut's covering it. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:13.320 I know. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.640 So yeah, but so is bored Panda the Daily Dot. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.440 A lot of people are picking up this Jack the 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.200 Ripper dig A story. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.680 It's uh in April as well. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.240 Yeah, well, because you've not seen one of my favorite movies, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:26.840 Art School Confidential. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.760 Yet, Right, you've never seen that? No, I should. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.560 Yeah, we got to do that because it's one of 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.160 my favorites. But it's the guy who did the cartoon 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.360 for ghost World. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:38.960 I think too, but I'm not sure. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.880 Yeah, I'm looking at okay, Art School Confidential. Oh yes, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:44.920 I remember the poster of this and everything. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:45.240 Yeah. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:45.600 Yeah. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.560 Well, so what's funny is for everyone listening, there used 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.760 to be a really hip show in La called The Meltdown, Right, 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.400 That's what was the name of. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.640 The store, nerd melt like uh no comics. Yeah, so 0:14:58.720 --> 0:14:59.400 you got paid. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.680 They would give fifty dollars to spend, but there wasn't 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.360 even Simpson stuff, like this is a real comic book store, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.720 and so I bought the Art. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.920 School Confidential comic book, Like I really. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.840 I had to really digged out in that store, but 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.240 it was my belt down money. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.920 Yeah, that was I would get paid for that show 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.280 and be like, Jared, you want anything, like I've done 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:22.040 anything to buy like yeah, but when you would visit 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.080 La like that was the show you wanted to get on, 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:25.160 and I feel like I maybe I do. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.760 I did it maybe three times, but yeah. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.560 It was a hot show and it became a TV show. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.760 Jared still gets some residual checks for like, you know, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.080 seven cents once in a while from doing that TV show. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:43.200 Yeah, well, I'm sorry obviously. I know a lot of 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.400 people are proud that I haven't mentioned it, but I 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.400 think a lot of people are waiting for me to 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.000 mention Travis on stage with Taylor. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.080 I'm sorry, like that is big news. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.360 We are recording this the day the New Heights episode 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.200 came out, so I've only seen the two clips. But 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.880 like I post sit a comment that in minutes already 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.320 has like hundreds and hundreds of likes, like we are committed. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.360 But Jason Kelsey was just talking about how, you know 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.000 Taylor does the hat thing. You don't like when she 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.000 sings twenty two. There's a kid that's picked. I don't 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.160 know how they're picked. Yeah, but like one of Kobe 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.880 Bryant's daughters was, yeah, girls got the dining chat and 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.800 so you know, he goes watching a young girl get 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.480 that hat and thinking what that would mean to me 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:26.640 and my daughters. 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.000 And he started tearing out. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.760 And I'm like, I'm teering up watching this football player 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.680 talk about a girl getting a hat, Like, I don't 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:37.160 this has just gotten too deep. But he loved And 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.400 then they're calling Kylie Princess Kayana. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.520 I really like that. But it was just cool and 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:48.320 he nailed it and it was fun. But and it 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:49.520 was just all start setting. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.880 I mean, Paul McCartney's at your concert, you know what 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.400 I mean, your boyfriend's there. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:58.200 It's cool. And there's five more in August. Wow. Yeah, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.960 there were a lot of big names there. I saw. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.440 It's like all that, and then there was like the 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.480 Dave Grohl comment that everybody's talking about. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:06.040 Yeah. 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.479 The thing that's weird is he complimented her recently so 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.560 it's strange they have photos together. But also you look 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.879 stupid because you're in the smaller venue in London that night, 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.200 you know what I mean, Like you kind of look 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.160 stupid and it looks like you're trying to get clout 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.520 and what are you sixty five? 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.160 Like it's just swee. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.320 I was literally talking to another text threat about this 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:27.840 because I was like, you can say whatever you want 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.639 about Taylor Swift. You have the right to not like 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.159 her if you want, but to say that she's not 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.200 performing live when she does like a three and a 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.359 half hour truly like a feat of performance, like it's 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.879 I go, it's kind of the last criticism I'll except, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.440 like I will not accept that, like she's not performing 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.560 live and that her live concert is not an experience 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.919 that people are obsessed with, because nobody does a concert 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.640 that long, Nobody sings that many songs, that many set pieces, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.840 costume changes, Like it's really crazy that he said that. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.320 But then another friend piped in and goes, well, I 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.080 heard that Dave Grohl's daughter said some shit about Taylor 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.000 using a private jet and the Swifties came for her, 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.800 and that's why he's kind of clapping back it's more 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.399 like about about making her fans mad than it is 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.560 about really critiquing her. Is what someone said they saw interesting? 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.199 Yeah, you know what that's actually I heard like his 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.199 daughter is a brat fan. She loves Charlie XCX so okay, 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:26.119 or Billie Eilish or something. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:27.080 So there's all of that. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.600 It's just you can talk shit and your rocks or whatever, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.600 but like to do it when you're in the smaller 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.399 which is still eighty thousand people. But when you're in 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.960 the smaller venue in the same town and you're not 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.639 getting the attention that this woman is getting, like it, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.320 you just look silly. And I've experienced this before because 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.040 I was I've talked about this a lot, but Ludacris 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:48.879 was not on the main stage when I saw him 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.240 at Bumber Shoot, and it was like, not the Chromio 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.120 brother the Chainsmokers, right, yeah. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.480 So he was. He was upset. I'm sorry. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.399 The idea of calling the Chainsmokers Chromeo brothers is so 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:02.199 funny to me. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.679 Okay, sorry, back to the story. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.600 The Chainsmokers were on a bigger stage because they were 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.120 having a more okay. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.920 Yeah, and and you know what, looted it. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.800 He just performed better, like yeah, he goes, you know what, 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.080 the main stage, This is the main stage, and then 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:26.040 he played hit after hit after hit and solidified himself 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:30.160 like the actual performer of the night. But like being like, nah, 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.000 where are the errors tour? But if he's protecting his daughter, 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.239 I get it. Whatever, ye like he should have done 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.960 a better insult like your costumes are lame, or like 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:40.640 your cringe or you're a capitalist. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:41.119 I don't know. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.960 There was just like other things to do except the 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.480 thing that like she is playing a piano and guitar 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.000 and sing like that is the thing. Maybe shouldre's backing 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:55.119 tracks during you know, certain numbers, but I think she 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.760 she is singing live, yeah, because if she was, she 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.120 wasn't people wouldn't be like this bitch can't sing because 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.080 that's the thing, like people that don't like. 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.200 Her, like I don't like her voice at all. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.560 Sure, yeah, so it's like if she was using a 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.280 backing track, she might have made it, you know better. Well, 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.920 you know, it's just it was just such a magical 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:21.879 thing where it just looks like jealousy from outside. But 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.879 also the Taylor Watch podcast like released an episode early. 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.800 Everyone was just losing their minds, and then how I 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.560 saw a clip of Howard Stern talking about it. 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:32.160 He goes, I don't understand. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.400 He goes, her boyfriend was on stage, and people are 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.359 losing their minds. And then they play a clip and 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.280 you because you know, when you hold the cell phone 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.600 at a concert, you singing, her talking is what is 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:42.800 gonna get picked up the most. 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.119 It's just people going, what the fuck? What the fuck? 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:51.199 People can't comprehend what's happening. And then of course the comparisons. 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.040 Are being mad, like being made that like no one 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.560 is mad that Travis is on stage, like the football 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.840 guys were mad about. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:02.840 Just that she was at the games. Yeah, yeah, interest 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:04.600 slip interesting. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:10.080 We were were thrilled, like were There's theories being made like. 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:14.120 No one's like stick to football, you're distracting from the music. 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:15.840 You know, And my favorite fact, everyone's like how do 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:17.560 we not see him? And they're like he was under 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.440 the willow cloak, and it's like this fandom is insane 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.560 and I can't believe how much I've infiltrated my mind 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:24.560 so quickly. 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.760 Where I'm like, not the willow cloak, it's. 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.480 I don't even know what you're talking about. But I'm wow, 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:30.800 that sounds like a big moment. 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:32.400 Wait did I talk. 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.919 About doing Mallia? Was that last week? Or No, No, 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.040 you haven't, but we do have to start soon because 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:38.720 I think this interview is going to be long. 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.240 Oh yeah, we have a big value. 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.560 Okay, Well I did Molly at though Desk the concert 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.960 and it was a good time. And the funniest thing 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:50.479 that my friend Dave said we were together was like 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.240 we were all just behaved and mature at this concert. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.080 You know, we did the appropriate amount of drugs. Everyone 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:01.240 was there was no line, everyone was chill. And he goes, yeah, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:05.320 we've come a long way, and I went, we sure have. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:09.359 Like thinking about me at nineteen at Lallapalooza, it's like 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:14.840 I survived a zombie attack, Like I remember finding my 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.840 friend in the middle of the street, thighs fully chased, 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:25.320 like bleeding, just ripped apart, sweating dehydrate, like limping out 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.840 of just clawing my way to the front of the 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:30.879 stage to see the red hot chili peppers in a 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:32.359 way that I'm humiliated by. 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.400 And at this concert you're like swirling a cocktail like we. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:37.080 Didn't even drink. 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.840 No, we met, So my friend came in from Jersey, 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.280 so I was like, yeah, let's just meet at a bar. 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:42.840 And then I got a cock a drink I have. 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:44.960 You know, I haven't been into drinking as much lately 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.719 and so and with drugs, it's just too much. And 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:50.400 so when he got there, he didn't get a drink. 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.119 I'm like, what the fuck, why aren't you getting a drink? 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.600 And he goes, I go, you say to meet at 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.480 a bar, and I'm gonna drink. He goes, you said 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.400 to meet at a bar. I don't want to drink. 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:02.320 I go, I don't want to drink either. But then 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:02.920 I took a shot. 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:03.440 But then listen. 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.840 So then we go outside. I know we have to start. 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:06.560 This is a nightmare. 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.280 There's like a little electrical box. 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.199 We're just like trying to do Molly, putting it in 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:15.240 our waters, like just talking. I'm we walk away to 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.119 grab a bite of food before we go into Madison 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.160 Square Garden. I realized I left my phone on an 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.080 electrical box in the middle of like, yeah, I'm thirty 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.280 first twelve, Oh my god. And so in my head 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.320 I'm like, fuck, the tickets are on it. But and honestly, 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.080 I can log into the email, we can put the 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.000 app on his phone like it would have been fine. 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:33.119 I like, I was like, I'm not going to get 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.080 it back, and it was still there, which is a 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.000 fucking miracle. And I think it's because it was the 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.720 black side out of my phone, not the case side. Yeah, 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.000 so it blended in a little bit. But it was 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.879 probably on an electrical box in the city for like 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:48.720 I would say, twenty eight minutes twenty. 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.119 Five minutes before I realized it. Crazy wow, Because I 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.000 also try to be in the moment. I am less 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.000 on my phone. I really try to be there. 0:23:56.240 --> 0:24:00.000 Yeah, and on drugs, you don't want to get like yeah, 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.159 thinking about text to something that was like business for 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:04.840 the podcast, and I was like, I don't want to bother. 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:06.320 Her during the concert, so I emailed it. 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.040 I was like, she won't check her email during a concert, 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:10.680 but she might look at texts. 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.160 No, I kept my phone down there. But they were incredible. 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.040 And another funny thing Dave said is he looked at 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.160 me he goes, this is like the Blue Man Group, 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:22.600 and I'm like, yeah, So it's like drummers with neat lights. 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:23.560 It's like lights. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:27.399 There's witches that come out with cellos and lights and 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.000 it's a full light show screens like it felt like 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:31.439 we were in the winter at moments. 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:32.159 It's like a. 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:38.320 Full lights show, wild experience. It's really cool because my friends, 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.600 my other friend, my friend from India, a DT is 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.919 visiting from Mumbai and she was like, what does it mean? 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.000 It's a drug band? And then while I was there, 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:46.639 I was just laughing. 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:50.520 It was like fire, like full fire in the like 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:56.200 first song fire confetti in the beginning, neon drum wie. 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.440 Jesus. It was wild. 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.840 We have a great interview, so don't you know, don't 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.919 skip the interview today and uh yeah, as usual, go 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.080 to That's Messed Up live dot com for our merch 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:13.560 Lisa's tour dates, any of our any more information about us, 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.320 follow us on Instagram, I don't know whatever, and all 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.040 of our promo codes are up there too as well. 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:19.640 Let's get started. 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:28.760 Okay, so today we will be doing Tomorrow's which is 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.919 an episode where Tomorrow really fucks up and I have 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:36.600 fucked up as well, and I definitely forgot all of 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.960 my recording equipment before I went on the road for. 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.840 Ten months, ten months. Can you imagine for. 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.040 Ten days I did buy a microphone forgetting I don't 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:47.960 have a USB port, So listen. 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.320 Am I using Delta headphones right now? I am? So 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:52.160 we'll see what happens, Carol. 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.280 You might notice the sound quality is a little different 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.199 than usual, but the same old Lisa is there. Yeah, 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:02.920 but with my curtains and this. Yeah, it is always 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:04.879 embarrassing when we do have a guest and I do 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:08.919 have to interview them in front of these curtains because 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.760 they must think I'm a maniac. I feel like you 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.600 could be at a hotel with those curtains. You're right, 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.680 I don't have to, let you know, my mom don't 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.400 have to be like I'm in my childhood bedroom. It's 0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:19.560 not a necessity, you know. 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.120 Yeah, we should take a screen shot so people can 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.040 see the opulence my mom finds at Marshalls. Yes, because 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.800 she said to take a screenshot and the opulence mine. 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:29.680 But we are here. 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:34.960 We're in season fifteen, episode eleven, and this aired in January, 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.359 right after the Christmas break. I believe probably they were like, 0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:39.800 enjoy your holidays now. 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:45.359 Boom okayah, So tomorrow starts off this episode hitting you know, 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.560 a punching bag, a boxing bag. 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.280 What are the little ones is feedbag speedback. But it 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.040 wasn't a speed bag. It was a long one. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.879 Oh that was a big and that's just a punching bag. Yeah, okay, 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:56.200 so the little one's a speedbag. 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.600 Yeah he's wearing a wife beater inappropriate name, but I 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.440 don't know that is what that tank is called. 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:03.360 Yeah. 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:07.080 Wait, Trixy and Katia just talked about this on their podcast, 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.000 but do they have a fun name. They were like, 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.880 it's actually called. 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.359 Because even the other name seems culturally insensitive. So one's 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.720 about abuse and the other is about a demographical. 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.600 Well, somebody said wife pleaser, which they didn't like either. 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.760 But then Trixy had like sort of what sounded like 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.159 a fashion name for it, like a frame tank or 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.600 something like that, but like, I don't know what it is. 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.520 And I can't find it right now. I'm not saying 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.800 a frame tank. It was something like that, like eight like, 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.520 but it wasn't that. But yes, white. 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:42.600 Ribbed tea right right, white ribbed tank does require too 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.560 much spelling, and we do know what the other term means, 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:46.440 but it is not good. 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.040 But yeah, it is not good. 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.600 But to me, nothing is hotter than like a bikini 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.040 top or a black barsling with a wife beaterer on 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:56.800 top and like denim shorts like that to me is 0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.520 epitome of Well, it's because I grew up in the 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:01.880 heyday of Britney Spears and. 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:04.239 That is what I like. 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.920 I don't Anyways, Finn walks in, He's like, he calls 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:08.639 him La Joya. 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.199 He's like, come on, let's go, we gotta go. 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:14.640 We're duet lives and Amaro goes, just go, I'll meet 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.720 you there, and it's like, stop punching the bag. We 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:20.320 got to get to your boss's house. And Finn goes, nah, 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.480 I'll chill. Then he is annoyed. 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.879 I feel like I just sounded like justin Timberlake when 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.560 he said hi to like genuine or something. 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.320 Do you remember yes? 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.119 Then he is annoyed, like how many more times do 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:38.320 we have to celebrate her sergeant's exam? And basically though, 0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.120 he's actually sad because they're not going to let her 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.760 supervise them, so that means she's going to be transferred, 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.920 and he's really upset, but it does make Tomorrow stop 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.680 punching the bag because he's like, fuck, I don't want 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:50.320 her transferred. 0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:51.360 We should get to her house. 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.960 So we show up at the apartment and we're in 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.800 the short hair Bob Live era and she's popping open 0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.000 a bottle of wine and Rollins is already there helping out. 0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:02.240 There's a brunette woman. 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.480 I don't really know who she is, but I'm assuming 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.160 she's giving off social worker energy. 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.240 I feel like she probably like helped her. She's Craigan's gal. 0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.760 That's Eileen. Yeah. Wow. 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.200 She's like, thanks for including me, Like you, yeah, okay, 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:18.240 so that's Eileen. 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.160 I you know, I never put a face to a name. 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.520 She's not in it that much, but yeah, that's her. 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:24.640 I'm really happy. 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:29.200 So she asks where Brian is and he's undercover, and 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.800 then Eileen is like, but he was there for you 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.400 at your trial, so that you know that's something. 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:35.400 And then that's just. 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.080 A low bar of men where you know, the most 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.440 traumatic thing that's ever happened to you he did show 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.200 up then, But whatever. She's a professional, she gets it. 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.680 But also you could tell Benson's annoyed by the comment, like, oh, 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.720 fuck yourself, why are you bringing up William Lewis in 0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.320 my trial at my fun party while I'm drinking wine? 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.000 Like stop, yeah, you really don't have to bring up 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:54.600 the trauma. 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:55.040 Thank you. 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.160 Ben is already bitching to Craigan like can we leave already? 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.440 It's like shut up, and Craigan goes, how about we 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:04.000 toast first and then you can rush home to whatever 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.160 you rush home to, which is you know. 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.640 I feel like there is a place for a joke there, 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:10.360 Like I wanted there to be a little joke there, 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.640 like his video games is weed like something, but they 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.440 didn't give it to me. But I'm also thinking, like 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.680 a comedy writer, probably well, I think. 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.640 The comedy is that no one knows what, Like I 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:23.000 don't know anything about it. Yeah, like they didn't know 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.560 yet a son, I think till what season eight, So 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:30.080 like I think that's what they're trying to kind of show. 0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.400 Rollins tries to give Hmara wine. He says no, She 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.520 calls him a choir boy, so he gives in and 0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.280 grabs the wine. Craigan does a speech, and Ben's his 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.840 bookshelf is so nice, so many frames, Vaza's cool things, 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.520 a clock and there's a coat hook. 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.480 Yeah, luckily they're not cutting wide to see the fucking 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:55.000 uh taxidermied moose or whatever the hell Cassidy made her 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:55.720 hang on the wall. 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:56.960 I don't even remember that. 0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:01.440 Because this is their apartment together. Luckily we're not getting 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:02.920 the mail energy. 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.120 No, and then well maybe that clock was That was 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.240 a big ass clock. And then Craigan drops a huge 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:13.760 announcement and basically one PP bureaucracy, YadA YadA. Benson gets 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.200 to stay at SVU, so Finn is happy he's gonna stay, 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:18.360 and he goes, I'll drink to that. 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.240 Spoiler alert, there's ten more seasons of the show. 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:25.920 She says, Rollin's and Tomorrow are now walking under some 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.360 scaffolding and he asked if she wants to ride, and 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.760 she's like, oh, you could just drop me off at 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.040 the sixth sab F train, which is if just take 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.520 her home. But anyways, so they're walking and talking and 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.400 they're really happy that Live is staying, and Tomorrow doesn't 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.680 know who his new partner is going to be and 0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.440 he's like, you know, the NYPD doesn't tell me anything. 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.920 Then behind them is a police chase and a cop 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:50.040 is screaming and two people are running and they're like stop, stop, 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.400 and then one of the cops gets hit by a 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.000 taxi cab and crashes into the windshield. So they go 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:57.800 check on the dude, and the guy on the ground 0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.200 says they saw those kids do a deal and his 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.920 partner saw a gun. Tomorrow then confirms the gun detail. 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.160 He goes, there was a gun, They go, yes, a gun. 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.640 So then, but also let the kid do a drug deal, 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.479 Like is it that big of a deal. I just 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.720 I would just be like, okay, whatever. The kid got away, 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.000 so he bought some drugs, Like what, yeah, I mean 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:24.280 the war on drugs is, We've got some there's some problems. 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.400 It's like, who gives a shit. 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.160 I just everything that spirals out after this is like, 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:32.680 you could have just let the kid run. 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.240 You're gonna hate the real crime. 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:36.920 Yeah. 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.720 To me, it's like you already got hit by a car. 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.000 Like it's done, Bro, it's done. The chase is done. 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:48.200 You're off like that, you're not even working. But Rollin 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.520 stays with the fallen cop and Amorro runs after the kid, 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.760 and so then Rollin's calls it in and there are 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.440 people with their phones out already capturing what's going down. 0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.960 We also see another cop chasing the kid, and again 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.920 I think they're doing too much. Amaro joins this detective 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.440 and they're each on one wall of the side of 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:11.440 a hallway. Very action movie, I would say, and uh, 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.920 the woman is Officer McKenna and she's played by Vicky Judy, 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.040 who is Watkins from Orange Is the New Black. If 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.520 you're a fan, guess what My nephew and his girlfriend 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:21.880 are watching Orange is the New Black. 0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.840 She's already seen it. She loves it. She's making him 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:25.840 watch it and he loves Oh, I love that. 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.720 Yeah, he's on season three, and like, we talked about 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.400 the faves and who we've had on the pod, and 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.280 it was tell him that you're available for when he 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.760 gets to the season finale, because the series finale, because 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:36.800 it's I. 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.640 Was not only that, what about when I'm. 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.480 So many things that happen are terrible. But then at 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.160 the end, I cried so hard the big death, I 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.080 cried out. I cried so hard at that. Yeah, that 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.480 was a tough one. So God, they're gonna get it. 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.640 They're gonna get there. But they were like, who's your favorite, 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:55.960 and I was like, I guess I have to say 0:33:56.000 --> 0:34:02.160 Red because of our cultural Oh yeah, Red is red rules, 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:03.440 Red rules. 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:05.720 So my plain Jane of Orange Is the New Black. 0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.239 It's so hard to say it's so hard to say. 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.000 Oh no, I kept going. I kept going, and then 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.400 I was like, oh no, this was no I like. 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:12.600 But I do think I like the. 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.840 Older women because I like DEA's mom and I like 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.800 the one who won't do our podcast with the short. 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.839 Oh yeah, oh selanis Levia. We've been wanting to get 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:22.400 her forever. 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:22.880 Yeah. 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:24.960 Yeah, so I think I And then of course I 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.560 said natash leone. Also, at my mom's birthday, my niece's 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.160 college roommate was with us. Oh, she's like visiting. So 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.720 I got to meet another Trinity, another trim girl. 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.960 I love it. Yeah, so it was really exciting. 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:42.239 But anyway, so Vicki, Judy Watkins McKenna, Okay, she keeps 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.239 yelling for him to drop his gun, and Amaro realizes 0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.080 and then screams out like he doesn't speak English. 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.080 So then the woman taping on this and I was 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:51.120 reading the subtitles. 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.120 By the way, he is speaking French and he is 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.600 saying I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. And 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:57.920 then he's saying I don't have a gun. But he's 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.480 saying in French. Yeah, you would think he's an E. 0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.600 S Cellar or something. Yeah, I wonder how fresh she 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:10.080 is to the country. Yeah, okay, so you saw that. 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.200 I saw that. I was reading the subtitles. Yeah damn. 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.720 It was like Jay rim Fay, like I have done nothing, 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.799 Like I can't even imagine how scary this is. 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.680 So so he but Amorrow does realize that. And then 0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.320 the woman taping on the streets, she busts in balls 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.279 of steel on this woman. 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.120 She looks just like a grandma, but she is I. 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.319 Think is holding but I thought she was holding a 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.840 caprice so and I was like, rock on that woman 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.319 rules like, I can't see what she's holding. 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.520 But I was like, it really looks like. 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.240 In the other hand, Well, when she comes into the hallway, 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.000 there was I didn't I didn't know if she was taping, 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.400 and she was holding something, and I go, is that 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.080 a caprice on? But I was like doing I was, 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:46.959 I wasn't made. 0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.600 Now I want a caprice son? Oh god? Okay. 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.480 So she busts in and she goes, you leave that 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.719 boy alone, and Amarro actually points his gun at her 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.400 and tells her to get the fuck out, which I 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.200 think is a little much, but she walks out out. 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:05.560 Then Officer McKenna decides to run and I just it's 0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.879 so stupid. And so then she runs in like this 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.480 is kind of when Stabler goes undercover with the Animal Ring. 0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.319 It's like, this is what you want to leave this 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:14.800 world for, like ils. 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:19.920 Like there's no imminent danger, like if he has a gun, 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.160 wait for backup, like even if this guy has a gun, 0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.520 like backup cameras, like other things we can do, like 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.200 to get these to draw people out, rather than go 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.600 into a situation where you have no idea how many 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.719 people are behind a door, how many weapons there are, 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.120 Like you have no idea. It's like I doubt it's 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.520 what the police department teaches. 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:39.880 No, And so she's a dumb bitch. So yeah, she 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.920 decides to run into this hallway. She then is on 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.520 the ground, she is shot. There's gunfire everywhere, like we 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.120 hear all of this noise. So then he wants to 0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.960 save her, so he pulls her out. Then he puts 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.640 his gun into the hallway without looking again like an 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:56.360 action movie. 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.920 I'm like, are we in Rambo? Yeah, he's around. 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.880 A nine agree corner with no visibility, just pounding his 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.160 weapon like shoot shoo, shoot choo choot like an insane 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:10.520 And so then of course, the boy is shot and 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.799 Tomorrow keeps screaming, secure the gun, Secure the gun. There 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.680 is no gun, and the young boy is bleeding out. 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.759 Now his parents are screaming, and then Tomorrow like he 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.919 just was running home. And then Tomorrow and this boy 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.240 is like it seems like he is dying blood everyone 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.719 and they're making dramatic eye contact. They are looking at 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.520 each other. And now Tomorrow is like holding the boy's wound. 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.000 And now it's the credits and this is a mess. 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.120 So now, and also what I don't understand is like, 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:42.759 you don't even know these cops, like what, yeah, you 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.200 shot a kid for some bit you don't even know. 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:46.880 I don't get it. 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.360 We're back and you know all the cops staff, everyone's 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.520 running around, everyone's looking for this gun. And then the 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.640 EMT does say that Tomorrow did a good job with 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.480 doing triage and it did save the boy's life. The 0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.319 boy is wheeled out on a stretcher and out of 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:05.080 his coat falls caught which is an East African amphetamine 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:09.000 and Somali pirates use it to be fearless and I 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:09.719 kind of like that. 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:15.319 Okay, so omar kaht cot what is that? Well? 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.279 Amara was like this small amount. This is like a 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:25.240 small time dealer. Yep, yeah, that's why I and whatever. 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.560 We'll get to more and more infuriation. So then friend 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.880 of the pod Kathy Moorey already walks in as Captain 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:35.040 Tony Howard were obsessed with her, and she said, you 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.080 saved my guys, thank you. I didn't realize SV was 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.840 working with my precinct. Rollins goes, no, we were just 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.040 walking and we saw an officer get hit by a cap. 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:44.959 So he asks. 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.120 Tony how is McKenna and the response is that she 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.600 lost some blood but she'll be okay. And then of 0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.360 course Tony hates to ask, but she needs his weapon 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.120 and he needs to go to the hospital for a 0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.440 full work up and blood alcohol level. Fuck he had wine. 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.480 So then Rollin said it was a good shoot. 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:02.960 You weren't there. 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:07.880 Mariarty fires back, kid was armed, find the weapon, So 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.600 Amara walks off. Rollins looks worried, huge crowds everywhere. Benson 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.200 arrives to check in on him with Kragan. He gives 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.839 them the low down. Howard's actually Finn's old lieutenant from narcotics. 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.319 So then Kragan goes, that doesn't matter, you know, not 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.120 to say anything to anybody. So Craigan goes with Tomorrow 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.880 to the hospital and Tomorrow says he had to shoot 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.640 because McKenna was down, and Craigan goes, you can't talk 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.360 to me either, like this is not privileged. 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.640 Shut your fucking mouth. So the rest of the squad 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:36.239 stays to. 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.960 Help find the gun, and Howard is warm to Finn 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.239 and relieved he saw nothing so she can actually put 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.560 him to work. Benson offers her French skills, of course, 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.799 to talk to the parents. Howard said, no, tranp no, 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.960 it's fine. We have a translator on the way, but 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:55.080 fix Benson. So they can't be the main investigators obviously, 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.480 but before everyone shows up, they can at least help 0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.759 look for the gun. So at this point I don't 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.040 feel has a gun, and he proved why he ran 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.840 because fuck the police, like you're just shooting into a 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.720 hallway with one kid, You're a fucking lunatic. Rollins finds 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.560 a big problem. There's a window, a giant window open 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:14.839 in the apartment, and there's an older brother missing, and 0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.680 Howard knows him. He has a rap sheet for pedaling 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.799 without permits, really like petty shit, but he's well known 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.000 to the squad, so they're like, well, maybe he went 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.439 out the window with the gun. Now, a blonde woman 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.880 introduces herself to Tomorrow at the hospital. Her name is 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.160 Dede Densler, and that's going to be his delegate. She 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.400 stops the nurse from taking his blood and says to 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.839 wait that they have to talk police confidential business. And 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.560 this actress has actually been in six episodes of SBU, 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:43.000 spanning season two to seventeen, three different characters, and I 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.680 actually recognized her as one of the lesbians in the 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.120 cheating Curve from Sex and the City that Charlotte starts 0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.200 hanging out with, which Tomorrow Tuney's in that episode as well, 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.600 So that's exciting. So the nurse with funky scrubs leaves 0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.640 and they get down to business. She's like, none of 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.600 this is privileged, but he goes, listen, I had two 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.719 glasses of wine. She's like, you need to talk to 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.280 a psychologist. She says, tell me everything. 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.480 Hopefully they find the gun, and Amaro's like, I hope 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.399 the kid lives, Like who cares about the gun? 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.640 Like I do? Like this he has humanity. He goes, 0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:15.200 what what is he? 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.239 Sixteen? And she goes, they're claiming fourteen? What do you 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.480 mean claiming? What do you mean claiming he's fourteen? Why 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.040 would they lie? Amaro looks really. 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:28.560 Sad, and uh oh it's Tucker walking in and he's pissed. 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.760 So this is funny, Like we always say how IAB 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:33.319 is just. 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.359 To make sure the cops are like doing the right thing. 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:36.560 But there are these enemies. 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.919 And even in this episode where it's like a kid 0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.880 is a shot, like everyone is still treating it like fuck, 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:45.920 leave them alone. 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.719 He just shot into a hallway and shot a kid. 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.600 No, you know what I mean, with no evidence, we'll 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.200 run backing cops anymore. 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.120 It's just like it. It is a funky episode. 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.520 So then then so basically Tucker says, the new mayor 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.720 wants IAB to be involved in this case. Dean Winters 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.960 is here too, you know, as Brian all hands on 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.040 deck and he's training to be an IAB right now, 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.719 which makes me laugh. It's like you know when you 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.120 have a waitress that's training and then the real waitress 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.800 stands behind and so they just it's like, no, Brian, 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.040 you you try this time? 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:20.880 Yeah, wyting you ask if they want dessert? 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.880 Craigan makes the comment I don't love but he says, well, 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:30.720 everyone only cares because he's a black team, and it's like, okay, 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.040 but if that's true, is that not appropriate? 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.000 Like yeah, I don't know why that's bad. 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.000 Yeah, they care because it's a black team, because you 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.920 guys continuously kill black people. 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:42.680 So yeah, that's why they're. 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.200 Making there's not as many instances of cops just shooting 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:46.359 white teens for no reason. 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.120 They usually bring the white teens in a live. 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.960 Yeah, and you I know for a fact, you wouldn't 0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.120 have chased if it was a white team, Like yeah, 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:55.600 they can pretend all they want. 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.799 And that's why, like on what is it? 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.560 Unconscious bias is so import because none of these people 0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.920 think they're racist. But it's like, there's no fucking way 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:05.799 you would have chased a white girl like this. 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:06.920 It's right there. 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.319 It's also even right there in what we were just 0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.440 talking about. Oh, what is he's sixteen? No, he's fourteen. 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:17.120 There's like a thing where people make black children seem older. 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.440 They think that they're older. They treat them older. 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.400 They you know, they like treat them like adults and 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:26.000 criminals when they're children their kids. Yes, you know, yes, 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.240 so that's like that writting right there into the script, 0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.560 into the thing, you know. Oh, they're claiming he's fourteen. No, 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:38.200 he's fucking fourteen. Yeah, and it's like, no, if it 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.799 was a white woman, she would see the department aka 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:46.400 Leam McSweeney and start a business. So that's what would happen. 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.040 Oh my god, Wait, did I tell you what happened 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:50.080 at New York Comedy Club? 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:51.000 No? 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.719 Okay, So I'm just doing a set. I mentioned the Housewives, 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.840 and this kind of drunk girl yells out Aaron Lee Chee, 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.200 and I go, fuck that bitch. She used Breakstone sour 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.600 cream with caviaars. She's a fraud, she's and I start 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.720 going off, and then the woman goes, wait, that's his aunt. 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:10.680 That's his aunt. 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:15.120 So she was with his nephew. 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.600 Well, I'm going off on his aunt. 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.560 And what a horrible addition she is to the to 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:21.320 the franchise. 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.680 And then everyone obviously starts laughing. 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.600 I start laughing, and then I go, no, I mean 0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.000 she and then I have to kind of back up, 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:29.879 but I'm like, why would you yell out someone's name? 0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.720 That's like a famous part, like right when you're related. 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.640 But then I said were you at that party? Were 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.120 you at that fucking party? He goes, I was at 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.160 the bank, the big bank party. He goes, I was 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.600 at the party, and I go, was there food? And 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:48.640 he goes, I left full and satisfied. Oh okay, standing 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:49.399 up for his aunt. 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:50.040 I got it. 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:54.400 Yeah, but yeah, I just thought I would share that 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.880 little tid bit funny. So, hey, you gotta be careful 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:01.799 because remember I talked about the Queen Your Love Ultimatum show. 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.200 Oh yeahs a twin sister was at our show. Yeah, 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.440 so's my sister's on that. And it's like, yeah, no, 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:11.640 you look exactly like her, right, yeah, thank god your 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.200 your sister wasn't as problematic because her big titted girlfriend. 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:15.600 Okay. 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:20.319 So yeah, Craigan's like, because he's block Okay. So then 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.880 Tucker's testing Brian because he needs to prove he can 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.520 be unbiased. So he thinks, I AB and the mayor 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.160 are just trying to use tomorrow as a sacrificial lamb. 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.759 And it's like, but he did shoot, And so then 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:34.360 a pastor comes in from behind. 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:35.520 Craigan is surrounded. 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.880 It's Reverend Curtis Scott aka Leslie Odom Jr. Says the 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:41.920 only person's sacrifice is Yusuf. 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:43.960 I'm with the I'm with the reverend. 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:48.399 So Craigan does a slow spin and goes, wow, we're 0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.600 word travels fast, and it's like, yeah, when the NYPD 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.040 shoots an unarmed boy, we tend to talk about it. 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:59.920 So his parents are with him. Tiger Tiger, Tiger Tigger. Okay, 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:04.880 So Tiger fights with Pastor now too, and he's like, 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:09.439 hold your horses, we'll see what happens. Have you seen 0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.480 the trend on TikTok where black people are doing things 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.080 of like what phrases by white people they really do, 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.520 like like white people really popped off when they came 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.759 up with it, And it's like I've had it up 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:19.719 to hear. 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.160 And it's like you're cruising for a cruises. 0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:31.280 And I feel like hold your horses is one of those, yeah, 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:35.399 that the whites popped off. And so Pastor Curtis gets 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.440 invol and goes, oh, now that you can't stop him, 0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.880 frisk you just shoot, and they all fight that it 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.799 was not racially motivated, and he gets them and goes, 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.000 I thought, we haven't determined what happened yet. 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.640 So it's like you guys are saying it's not race related. 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.239 But then you also said the investigation's not done, so 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.640 you're already just like clamoring for whatever. 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.600 It's like, Rollin's going, that was a good shoot. 0:46:55.760 --> 0:47:00.520 It's like, yeah, you guys are not investigating and you're 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:05.040 not being like self aware. So he says, the whole 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.879 city is watching you and the mayor, so let's see. 0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.399 So Craigan goes, oh, babe, I wouldn't waste your time 0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:13.160 with us. So then the Reverend goes, the whole city 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.399 is watching you and so is the mayor. We'll see 0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.399 what happens. Craigan goes, oh, I wouldn't waste your time 0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.560 with us. The cameras are down there, and the Reverend 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.960 runs straight to the media. He is a fame wore. 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.680 So Benson runs to Brian and he introduces himself as 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:30.480 IAB so they can't talk and Benson just keeps running. 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.520 She meets up with Tomorrow and the blonde delegate d 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:37.200 d or whatever, who leaves after Benson rushes her out. 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:40.399 She warns Tomorrow, it's a circus out there, so we're 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.920 going to take you out the back door, and she 0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.520 does have to inform him the gun has not been 0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:49.160 found and the older brother is still missing, and Yusuf 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.640 is alive, thank god, but one bullet did hit his spine, 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:54.600 but they don't know what it means, and Tomorrow goes, 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:58.319 yeah they do, so dramatic music plays and Tomorrow is sad. 0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:02.440 We open on walking into the woodblind's room and announcing 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.239 that the kid may be piraalized. The doctor did say 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:08.839 that Tomorrow saved use of slice, but yeah, wheelchair. Then 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:10.960 Craigan is like, okay, so does use have have a 0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:15.120 criminal record? I don't know, but he's paralyzed now, so 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:19.920 what Like what the fuck? I just don't understand why 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:21.640 they can't be like we fucked up. We should be 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.880 in trouble and move on. But then we wouldn't have 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:25.480 a TV show, and I wouldn't be right. 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:27.640 And I guess, like if you want to like play 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.040 Devil's Advocate or whatever, if you're watching the episode, like 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.760 the dumb Woman cop goes in from Oranges the New Black, 0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:34.760 and then you just hear. 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.280 Bullets, bullets, bullets, bullets, bullets. 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.080 So in his mind, somebody with a gun is there 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.200 trying to shoot a cop, so he just shoots back, 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.080 you know, like he thinks he's protecting his fellow officer, 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.640 you know. But the way they went about it was 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:49.840 all idiotic to begin with and not worth it and 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:55.480 not like and not literally nobody would be injured at 0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.120 all if you guys just stayed outside and waited for backup. 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.600 So they say, base, the little brother just has minor 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.920 like street pedaling busts. It's the big brother who's the 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.600 bad boy. So Benson thinks younger brother might work for 0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:12.000 older brother who ran with the gun, and Finn is like, listen, 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.759 the only person who saw him with a gun is 0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.960 this female cop. We did a grid search for two blocks. 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:21.080 There is nothing. The neighbors are clean. Everything is clean. 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.680 So they're dead set on looking for the older brother 0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:26.719 and put pressure on people. So Tomorrow goes to church 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.959 obviously to confess and get advice from his priest. And 0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:34.319 he does confess that he paralyzed a child. He's like, yeah, 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:39.320 I know it's in the news. But the pastor says, 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.040 I'm sure the guilt is a lot and a burden, 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.920 and he says, no, that's the thing. According to my training, 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:48.000 I did everything I was supposed to do. And he goes, okay, 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.680 how about for your conscience and it's not really clicking. 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.280 So finally goes, what tell me why you feel guilty? 0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:56.879 Was their hate in your heart? And he says no, 0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:01.400 I was just trying to help the other cop and oh, 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:02.840 I don't know what I wrote, but it's because I 0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.600 called the priest a caller boy and that's why I 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:10.240 was confused. So so the guy in the collar is like, okay, 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.560 then you tell me why you feel guilty, Like, obviously 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:14.799 all my guesses aren't working. 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:16.120 Is it because you had a few drinks? 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.279 He said it didn't affect him, but they're gonna say 0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.279 it did or that I did it because the kid 0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:22.520 was black, And the priest is like, oh, it's your pride, 0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:26.239 that's what's wounded. He goes, I did everything right, and 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.400 it's like you didn't. I don't know. 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:30.600 It's just shooting into a hallway as correct. 0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:32.800 So then the priest gets it and goes, oh, okay, 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.000 so you feel like you did everything right and yet 0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:38.160 God did not give you the results you expected or deserved. 0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:41.719 And then the clapback is God planned for me to 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:45.759 paralyze yousef So whatever, they chat about God's plans, but 0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.439 one lesson to learn the priest says is, why don't 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.520 you figure out why pride is a sin? Something to 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:55.160 sit with? Okay, And so the actors playing the priest is, 0:50:56.320 --> 0:51:00.960 I think it's Gabenga akinagbe, thank you, and he's working. 0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.840 He's from the wire, he's been a nurse Jackie and 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.120 you know, he really gagged Tomorrow at that point. 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:07.399 So Amorrow goes off. 0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.200 He's not happy about it, and then he does a 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.279 little Catholic hand thing and leaves. So if it and 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.479 Rollind's go to visit McKenna and it is her first 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.080 time being shot, so she's They're like, yeah, yeah, it's tough. 0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:19.680 You'll get shot again. It'll be fine. 0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:21.759 And so then she says that her deli get told 0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.320 her not to answer any questions, and they're like sure. 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.640 But the thing is, iab is going after Tomorrow really hard. 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:30.440 They think it was his gun and kid the kid's 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:32.600 gun is gone, Like are you sure you saw a gun? 0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.440 She is testy and goes, listen, I saw a flash 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.680 of metal during the deal and in the hallway I 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.240 got hit by a bullet that he fired. She held 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.680 her head down until Amorrow pulled her to safety, so 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.960 she didn't see anything else, but maybe the woman recording 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.720 on her phone did, and Rolind's is like, whoa what woman? 0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:52.360 So then the woman. 0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:55.279 Who like hates cops was in there, and Tomorrow told 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.280 her to get back, but she kept her for recording 0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.800 that woman, and so we got to find her. So 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:04.160 now we have Elizabeth Marvel aka Rita Calhoun Rita Calhoun. 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.120 Both names don't feel real, like I always forget which 0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:09.040 one's her real name and which one's her state name, 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:12.759 because with Marvel is kind of like an amazing after name. 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.960 Yeah yeah, but that means he's paying for the big guns, 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:16.520 you know what I mean. 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:18.360 She's not a cheap lawyer. 0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:22.320 So they walk into a room and Marie Hardy's blonde 0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:25.640 recipe voiced gift from the heavens is here, and in 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.879 the room is also the IAB Dynamic Sexy bad duo. 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:34.640 There must be like a double team fanfic of Tucker Cassidy. Yeah, 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.000 IAB coming to. 0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:38.120 Enforce the rules. 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.560 There must be two sexy older guys making sure the 0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:42.719 cops aren't fucking up. 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:43.360 I like that. 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.000 So they all sit down and they're ready for the meeting, 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:49.320 and he doesn't like that. Cassidy's going to be asking 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:52.120 the questions, but he is training, so he has to 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.200 and it's tense. They asked you, did you announced yourself, 0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.120 did you see the gun? You had drinks? 0:52:58.200 --> 0:52:58.600 Did you? 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:02.239 And the amarro gets sassy and goes, why don't you 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.320 go test the holes in the walls and they're. 0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:06.719 Like we yeah, we're doing that, thanks, thanks, we are. 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.280 And so then with the drinks, the line of questioning 0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:13.440 is amazing because he's at Cassidy's apartment, so like he 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:18.280 was drinking in front of Cassidy, Like this is wild. 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:20.359 So then they bring up like, you also didn't let 0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.399 the nurse take your blood, and Marvel interrupts quickly and goes, 0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:26.040 that was the delegate. But IAB does not like that, 0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:29.280 and Cassidy is now interviewing all our friends on camera 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:33.000 and goes, yeah, he was sober. Rollins goes, yeah, they 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.440 said that the suspect was armed, but also she did 0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.279 not see a gun. And now it's Benson in the 0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.680 interview room and she goes, I didn't serve him, and 0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.840 Tucker says, stopping, cute, detective, it was your apartment. 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:45.320 Was he served? 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:48.760 She says, of maybe two glasses of wine over two hours, 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.600 and he ate dinner and he was unimpaired. Tucker goes, 0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.200 they're going to ask you this on the stand. Is 0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.120 that what you're going to say under oath? And it 0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:57.400 hits her like, oh, fuck, you want this to go 0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:00.719 to trial. So then we leave the interrogation montage to 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:03.520 the elevator doors at the precinct opening up. Benson's telling 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:05.879 Craigan like, fuck, Tucker, let it slip. He wants this 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.520 to go to trial. Craigan reassures her it's not going 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.440 to be Tucker's call. He's like, it's the regime change, 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.480 and she goes okay, and their first act is to 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:15.640 crucify Amorrow. 0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.239 He is not innocent, and she is. 0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:21.240 So loud and they walk into the office and Tomorrow 0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:25.640 overhears the conversation and Benson's like, oh, Nick, are you 0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:28.359 sure you should be here? Rollins pops up like yep, 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.320 I told him to be here, And she has footage 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.080 from the cell phone of the shooting. So the footage 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.640 is on a website and basically we see the running. 0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:38.920 We see that like he kicks her the woman out, 0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:42.960 but the subtitles and what they make the video seem 0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.960 like as Tomorrow goes speak English like kind of rude 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:50.919 like ghosts like speak English verse. He doesn't speak English, 0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:54.160 which is a huge difference, I would say. And so 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.680 Tomorrow slams the laptop and he goes, this is useless 0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.920 and bullshit fuck, and I mean. 0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:01.920 It's it's just him shooting a kid into a hallway. 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:03.279 But he feels set up. 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:05.760 So now they're going to go find the og clip, 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:07.919 not the edited one, and see if that helps at all. 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.880 But before they all dispersed to go work, Cassidy and 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:14.520 Tucker walk in and Yusuf had no guns shot residue 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:18.120 on him at all. The only shots fired came from 0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:22.080 McKenna's gun, and Amorrow's that's it. There's no third gun 0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:26.760 and it was never fired. McKenna was shot on accident 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.000 by her own gun. And she's also saying that she 0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.040 didn't shoot, that she tripped and her finger was on 0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.719 the trigger and that's why it even shot. She said 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.240 she tripped and fell and did not mean to shoot. 0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:40.880 So Cragan's like, sure, but Amaro believed that a fellow 0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:43.680 officer had been shot by the perp and he was 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:47.080 trying to save her, and Tucker says maybe, but McKenna's 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:53.000 refusing to cooperate in any way. So he risked everything 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:58.120 to help his fellow officer, and she's just like, I 0:55:58.160 --> 0:55:58.600 don't care. 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:00.600 I tripped, it was an accident, and I had no 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:06.839 idea why he was there. So also we. 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:09.040 Find out his blood alcohol was point zero four to 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:12.960 nine and that's two hours after the shooting, so he 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:14.520 could have actually been impaired. 0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:17.399 And Tomorrow hands over his badge. No one even has 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:17.759 to ask. 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:19.959 He knows what's up, and at nine am he needs 0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:23.200 to turn himself in. Craigan says that this is a farce, 0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:26.520 arresting him before he's even been indicted, and Tucker tells 0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:29.040 him he better get his affairs in order. They all 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:33.040 rally around tomorrow and we go straight to court. Calhoun 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:37.400 in court is like, hey, they're rushing. This is an overcharge. 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:41.240 This is a decorated career officer, and they want a release, 0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:44.319 and the judge says, hell, no, bail is half a 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:49.040 million dollars, and then Calhoun goes, is this punitive or political? 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:51.440 The judge ignores her. He calls for the bailiff and 0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:54.480 he wants the next case brought in. He's scared that 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.200 he doesn't have that kind of money and h you know. 0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.839 Rita Calhoun goes, you have a house, you know, put 0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:02.600 it up and he's like, fuck, I have to message 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:04.279 my wife we're separated, but. 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:06.800 She says she better sign it. So they're going to 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:07.480 put the house up. 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.040 The media, there's a frenzy the reverends talking to the 0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:14.440 cameras about change. And then the older brother went to 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.400 check in on the younger brother at the hospital. So 0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:20.280 they found him and they're holding him but she's not 0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:23.160 telling iab and told them not to and basically they're 0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:24.920 being shady, but they're going to go talk to the 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:28.160 brother first. So Benson goes, okay, yeah, I'm gonna go 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:29.920 chat with him, see if he can help us, like 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:31.720 why would he? But also why would he help the 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.640 person that paralyzed his brother. So we're in a cement 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.000 room bars and Rollins is like, we know that Yusuf 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.320 was selling cop for you, and he says, Yusef delivered 0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:40.560 for me. 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.600 That's it. He never sold it. Rollins asks why did 0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:44.040 he run? 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.000 And it's like, okay, captain obvious because cops kill black 0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.000 people and you were chasing him, so why wouldn't he 0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.760 be running? So then he goes, yeah, you're always fucking 0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.800 with us, always an excuse, whether a permit or a fine, 0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:56.720 You're always going to find a way to bother us. 0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.240 Finn asks why did you run, and he's like, you 0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:03.600 shot my brother, wouldn't you run to so knock knock. 0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:05.080 Benson goes to visit Tomorrow. 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.840 Zara is there and Grandma Amorro and Zara wants to play, 0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:14.000 but weird Time girl Weird Time puts it down, so 0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:17.520 she asks how he's doing, which also again everyone is 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.880 being stupid Right now, things are not good, so Omorrow 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.440 decides to channel his anger and hating Benson's boyfriend Brian Cassidy, 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.520 and that Brian is enjoying this, that he's a sicko, 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.560 he's leaking files, he's sam bagging me in the press, 0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:32.640 and she's like no, no, no, he hates this. 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:35.200 She is like, you're being paranoid. 0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:38.000 This is about one Pp, Like one Ppe wants to 0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:40.520 make you a fall guye not Brian, and he's like, 0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:41.360 whatever you say. 0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.800 Benson goes, we all have your back. That bang, bang 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:47.040 bang bullet shots through the window and he runs to 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:50.520 protect Zara asks if she's okay. Everyone is super scared 0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:53.880 but physically fine. Benson calls for backup for shots fired. 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:56.840 She walks out gun out. She finds the gunmen and 0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:58.840 they are young black men who put their hands up 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:01.919 right away and go what are we next? Benson asked 0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:04.240 for them to explain themselves, and they say, we didn't 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.520 see nothing. Amaro runs out with a baseball bat, screaming 0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:10.560 they're lying. One of the men respond maybe if someone 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:13.840 saw you with a gun. He keeps yelling, oh, you're 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.320 shooting my house with my daughter inside, and it's like 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:20.280 you did the same thing. Yeah, you ran into someone's 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:23.520 apartment building and shot them where their parents were right there, 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:27.200 Like yeah, yeah, tzara you got Like now you know 0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:27.960 how it feels. 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:30.680 I don't want anything that been a tzara. 0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:33.240 But it's like, why would someone shooting into your windows 0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:36.640 be any less like or any more bad. 0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:39.040 Than what you did? Yeah? But whatever. 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:44.439 So he screams cuffum, cuffam now, and this is all 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:46.880 being taped. So they say, well, you imagined a gun 0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:48.800 and there wasn't one, and he gets frustrated and then 0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:51.480 he hits the garbage can with the baseball bat. Craigan 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.080 arrives and he says that they found a twenty two 0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:57.560 in the sewer. Great, and they're bringing two of the 0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:00.200 three kids in. So basically they didn't find this this 1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:04.240 gun that was shot into Tomorrow's window. And Tucker arrives 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:07.480 on the scene, Craigan jumps up, we got this. Benson, then, 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:11.320 in shocking news, says that she called him in. She says, Nick, 1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:15.280 I had to. Nick screams at Tucker, they shot through 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:18.400 my windows with my mother and child inside, and Tucker goes, 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:20.680 I get the pain and upsetness, but you can't go 1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:23.720 after civilians with a baseball bat. Oh, but they can 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:27.160 shoot at me, and Benson tells him to stop. Craigan says, 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:30.520 like they shot at his daughter, and Tucker goes, I understand, 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:33.120 and I get it, but I have to investigate. So 1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:35.520 then Benson asked Tucker to please give us a minute, 1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:38.680 but before he steps outside, he tells Tomorrow he gets 1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:40.880 it and he would have done the same thing or worse. 1:00:42.480 --> 1:00:44.760 So Craigan down to business. We got to get you 1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:47.040 and your family out of here. But he's ahead of that. 1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:49.160 His mom's going to take Zara home and then they're 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:52.040 going to go to DC tomorrow. Kraigan asks, well, what's 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:55.480 your plan. Amara responds that he's good right where he is, 1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:58.800 you know, same old, same old hero cop talk. Benson 1:00:58.840 --> 1:01:00.880 tells him to come home with her, and he's like, gross, 1:01:00.920 --> 1:01:03.200 I'm not going to where Cassidy lives. She goes, come on, 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:07.240 I have a comfy couch, Like I don't know, okay, 1:01:07.240 --> 1:01:09.320 they always get witnesses hotel rooms, like, get him a 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:09.919 hotel room. 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:12.960 Whatever she asks. She like begs. She goes, please just 1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:13.960 try it out for a few days. 1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:16.760 So he grims, and then it cuts to black and 1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:20.000 I really don't think they should be together, him and Cassidy, 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:23.200 but okay, So then Amaro listens to Benson and he's 1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:25.520 taking the big couch and he's on the phone with 1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:28.200 Maria while Benson is setting up his couch for sleepy time. 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:29.680 He hangs up pissed. 1:01:29.680 --> 1:01:32.080 She wants full custody to let least the trial is over, 1:01:32.600 --> 1:01:35.960 and Benson does feel sad for him. Yeah, like he 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:38.160 can't really argue with her. It is safer for Zara 1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:40.760 to be with her mother. And if he gets convicted, 1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:43.440 He's like, what then Zara can come visit me in prison. 1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:47.920 Benson stops him and says, stop catastrophizing. And he's like, bitch, 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:50.760 too late for that, Are you kidding me? He's already 1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:53.160 thinking like maybe I should cut a deal. And then 1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:55.480 he goes, you know who I missed right now, Munch, 1:01:56.280 --> 1:02:00.120 and Benson says they all do. So Brian walks in and. 1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:02.840 Says, hi, babe, and then he does say hi to Nick, 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:04.880 and Nick looks forward. He will not look at him, 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:07.440 he will not respond to him. And then Brian asks 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:10.360 about Zarro, so he does say she's fine, but she's 1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:13.040 still like he still will not look at Cassidy and 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:16.000 is just seething it is wild to be like, come 1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:18.040 back and stay at my apartment with my IAB and 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:19.080 training boyfriend. 1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:23.280 Like it's like, it's just not what would happen. It's insane. 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:25.920 So Craigan's in the office and he's spying in the 1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:28.240 glass where Amorrow's in the cement room talking to Munch 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:30.680 on his cell phone. Craigan walks in and he says 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:32.480 that Munch thinks he should take a deal and get 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:35.440 this over with. He said, just because your paranoid doesn't 1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:36.640 mean you don't have enemies. 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:38.120 Pretty good Munch. 1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:41.680 Craigan reassures Nick, like, bro, you're a good cop. But 1:02:41.920 --> 1:02:44.840 cops do make enemies. Omaro looks up and goes, so 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:46.720 you agree, I should take the deal if I can 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:49.600 keep my pension and just do it, and Craigan goes, 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:52.000 I can't make that decision for you, Nick, But then 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:54.000 he asks, have you ever thought what your life would 1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:56.960 be like without the badge? And he doesn't know, So 1:02:57.080 --> 1:02:59.360 maybe he should move to DC, he could be closer 1:02:59.400 --> 1:03:02.360 to Zara up security work, and they both sit down. 1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:05.280 Craigan goes, sure, but like this might stick with you, 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:09.240 Amaro goes, no, I know, I'm damn no matter what. 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:10.200 This sucks. 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:12.640 So then Craigan leans in and says, I wish I 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:14.920 could say NYPD looks out for their own, but I'm 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:17.840 not gonna lie to you. Nick nods and spaces out 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:20.160 and has a lot of thinking to do. So now 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:23.200 we cut to the office of Special Prosecutor Derek Strauss's 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:27.440 office played by Greg Jerman. German, I don't know, you 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:29.440 might not know his name, but you recognize this face 1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:32.280 like he is. He's been in a few s views, 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:36.400 but also he was in Ali McBeal and Gray's in Anatomy. 1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:38.480 Yeah, he kind of looks like him. And Josh Picce 1:03:38.560 --> 1:03:40.840 can be like brothers or something. He has kind of 1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:42.600 like that look to me. 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:48.040 Yeah, but doesn't he also look like like a Dax Shepherd. 1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:51.440 I feel like he also looks like Deker older. Yeah, 1:03:51.520 --> 1:03:52.280 So he's Ali. 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:56.760 Mcbeale, Grey's anatomy And the meeting is with him, Calhoun 1:03:56.840 --> 1:04:01.840 and Tomorrow and he he goes, so, how's your son, 1:04:02.280 --> 1:04:04.680 and Tomorrow doesn't correct him. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm good, 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:08.440 and Derek says, well, you know, it's a tragic situation 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:09.200 for everyone. 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:11.680 Calhoun just wants to get to it. She's all business. 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:13.160 She has a lot of cases. She says. 1:04:13.160 --> 1:04:16.640 He's willing to plead guilty to misdemeanor reckless endangerment, willing 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:19.680 to leave the department but keep pension and no jail time. 1:04:20.160 --> 1:04:21.919 The dude is like, he's going to have to serve 1:04:22.000 --> 1:04:24.240 some sort of time, babe, Like, how about one year probation. 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:27.280 She agrees for Nick and says that's fine as long 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:30.120 as there's no felony charge on his record, but that 1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:33.000 might be an issue because they really want him to 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:37.320 plead guilty to a hate crime. Nick scoffs stunned a 1:04:37.480 --> 1:04:41.320 hate crime. He screams where is this coming from Reverend Curtis, 1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:44.640 I am not a racist. Calhoun whips her head around 1:04:44.640 --> 1:04:48.000 and says, Nick, easy. So then Derek then has to 1:04:48.040 --> 1:04:50.440 explain you shot a black fourteen year old. And then 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:52.480 when after two other black kids in the street with 1:04:52.560 --> 1:04:55.520 a baseball bat, Nick jumps up from his chair and says, 1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:55.960 that's it. 1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:56.720 I'm out of here. 1:04:56.840 --> 1:05:00.120 I'm done, runs off, as Derek yells, oh, don't worry, 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:03.160 this is only the beginning. So Calhoun catches up to 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:04.960 Nick and I love the sound of her heels on 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.520 the marble court lot before clickity clacking. 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:09.440 Yeah, that amorro's a good sound. 1:05:09.760 --> 1:05:13.040 It is, it's and it's sustained because she's like chasing him, 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:14.480 so it takes a little while, so we get a 1:05:14.520 --> 1:05:15.400 lot of little clicks. 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:19.600 Amaro says, this has nothing to do with hate. She responds, 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:21.479 do you seriously think you can count on a jury 1:05:21.480 --> 1:05:23.760 from them to know what was in your heart? And 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:26.080 then she says, this is why I like defending criminals. 1:05:26.120 --> 1:05:29.720 They're much less trusting. So he won't admit to something 1:05:29.760 --> 1:05:31.960 he didn't do, and if that's pride, he doesn't care, 1:05:32.040 --> 1:05:34.360 because you know he knows the grand jury's going to 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:35.439 indict him either way. 1:05:35.840 --> 1:05:37.160 So it's grand jury. 1:05:36.840 --> 1:05:41.760 Time Derek versus Calhoun McKenna and like Derek is just 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:42.880 such a like douche name. 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:43.600 It's so funny. 1:05:44.160 --> 1:05:46.480 Okay, So McKenna is on the stand and it is 1:05:46.600 --> 1:05:47.480 I mentioned this like. 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:49.520 All cops are rah rah rah, like we're in it 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:52.280 for each other except this one woman, even though Tomorrow 1:05:52.400 --> 1:05:54.800 like tried his best, but she's taking care of her 1:05:54.800 --> 1:05:56.720 ass like she might be on the chopping block too, 1:05:57.480 --> 1:05:59.360 or like had to do this, Like I wonder what 1:05:59.440 --> 1:06:03.520 conversation since I ab had with her? Yeah, like why 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:07.920 not also try to indict her and stuff. She's a 1:06:08.120 --> 1:06:10.320 huge part of this. I feel like, how do we 1:06:10.960 --> 1:06:12.960 I guess the one that saw the gun? And they 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:15.800 also tested bullets right, like it's not her bullet hit 1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:18.880 the kid. Yeah, they probably tested right her her own 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:22.280 bullet hit herself, like she shouldn't be an officer. Yeah, yeah, 1:06:22.880 --> 1:06:26.480 you're not good, Yeah you tripped, you fell, and then 1:06:26.520 --> 1:06:29.200 a ricochet bullet shot yeah, and she said I'm going 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:31.200 in when Tomorrow told her not to do that, you know, 1:06:31.240 --> 1:06:34.360 when Amara was like don't you know, yeah, dumb bitch, 1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:38.360 So Mitch alert, she says he did not verbalize he 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:40.600 was a cop, but he did flash a badge and 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:44.760 says that Omaro just started shooting immediately after she accidentally 1:06:44.800 --> 1:06:47.360 fired her gun. Now we have the nurse with the 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:49.680 blood draw delay and she goes, it was a forty 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:53.240 minute delay and zero point oh five like right under 1:06:53.240 --> 1:06:54.520 that is legally impaired. 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:57.360 Robins now is on the stand and she stands by 1:06:57.400 --> 1:06:59.880 her man. So she walks out and they ask her 1:06:59.920 --> 1:07:02.800 how it is, and basically Rollins goes, well, it sucks 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:05.840 because Derek can say things in the grand jury that 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:08.080 he can't say in the courtroom. So there's a lot 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:12.919 of insinuations. And Finn confirms like, oh yeah, it was bad. 1:07:13.600 --> 1:07:16.480 So now we see the boy in the wheelchair and 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:19.000 a gaggle of people around him, and Tomorrow sees him 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:22.040 and it's like okay, well he testifies, I'm going to 1:07:22.080 --> 1:07:24.600 be indicted for sure. Maybe I should just take a plea, 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:27.960 and it's like, yay, you paralyze the young fourteen year olds, 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:29.200 like yeah, the people want. 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:30.400 To indict you. Yeah. 1:07:30.440 --> 1:07:32.680 But then Craigan is like, listen, I can't tell you 1:07:32.720 --> 1:07:34.800 what to do, but if you take that hate crime plea, 1:07:35.000 --> 1:07:37.280 you will not be able to live with yourself. So 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:40.320 the squad stands in a circle supporting him before walking off. 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:42.479 And now we're back outside the court the next day 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:45.160 and it's Calhoun and Benson and Tomorrow, and they're talking 1:07:45.280 --> 1:07:47.040 him out of going in front of the grand jury. 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:50.120 They're like, Derek can ask you anything he wants and 1:07:50.160 --> 1:07:52.880 it can all be used against you. Calhoun calls it 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:56.880 a cardinal sin to go up. Well, but also I 1:07:56.880 --> 1:07:58.800 think shooting a child too cardinal sin. 1:07:58.920 --> 1:08:03.200 Okay, it's tomorrow, Like be a little self aware, like 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:05.800 you're not good under pressure, like you know, like you 1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:08.680 will fuck up on the stale, like you if somebody 1:08:08.720 --> 1:08:10.720 baits you, you are going to do that. 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:15.240 Yeah, she doesn't want it. She's like, you're being investigated. 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:16.080 You really can't. 1:08:16.120 --> 1:08:18.200 I can't be there with you, he's gonna say, and 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:21.479 but Amara wants to do it, so he doesn't want 1:08:21.479 --> 1:08:21.680 them to. 1:08:21.760 --> 1:08:24.000 He's gonna do it. So now Derek humiliates him. First 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:26.519 question out, he goes, so you were drunk and shot 1:08:26.560 --> 1:08:29.160 an unarmed boy. Do you still maintain you did everything right? 1:08:30.000 --> 1:08:32.600 And he said, there was a female officer down. I 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:35.000 did what I was trained to do. Derek goes a 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:38.880 female officer, Amoro corrects himself, officer, but the damage has 1:08:38.880 --> 1:08:42.040 been done and he and Derek says, well, you know, 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:43.840 the last time you brought out your gun was to 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:47.559 protect another female officer, So is that what happens you 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:49.439 just draw your gun out every time you see a 1:08:49.479 --> 1:08:52.800 woman in danger. Is like all your reason goes out 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:55.839 the window. And he said, I made the only decision 1:08:55.880 --> 1:08:59.120 I could under the circumstances. So then Derek recaps the 1:08:59.240 --> 1:09:02.759 night you at drinks, you didn't announce yourself during the chase. 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:05.559 Then McKenna went around the corner, tripped and shot herself 1:09:05.600 --> 1:09:08.320 without visual confirmation that she's been fired at. 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:11.120 And then without looking, you poked your gun around the 1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:14.720 wall and started firing. He goes, yeah, until I ascertained 1:09:14.720 --> 1:09:16.920 that the firing stopped, and Derek goes, you are the 1:09:16.920 --> 1:09:20.799 only one shooting, so you stop firing when you stop firing. 1:09:21.560 --> 1:09:24.800 He defends himself that he couldn't know those bullets were ricocheting. 1:09:25.360 --> 1:09:27.960 He says that the hallway was an echo chamber, and 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:30.120 he's like, fuck, you know, it's so easy for you 1:09:30.200 --> 1:09:34.080 to judge in hindsight, and it took CSU twenty four 1:09:34.120 --> 1:09:37.080 hours to figure out what you expected me to figure. 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:37.839 Out in that moment. 1:09:38.400 --> 1:09:40.240 And that is the one good point he has made 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:44.280 all episode, where yeah, in hindsight, we're all talking about it, 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:47.639 but but you're also a professional, and you were also 1:09:47.680 --> 1:09:51.840 in the military. But but they're also but like also 1:09:51.880 --> 1:09:54.200 the show is trying to confuse you because like in 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:57.360 that moment, you are hearing bullets being discharged from a gun. 1:09:57.439 --> 1:10:01.599 You're not hearing ricochets like I was hearing bullets being fired. 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:05.400 So yeah, but you're not trained. He should be better 1:10:05.439 --> 1:10:05.880 than us. 1:10:06.520 --> 1:10:07.280 Yes. True. 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:10.200 He then asks if it would have been easier for 1:10:10.280 --> 1:10:12.639 him to figure it out if he hadn't been drinking, 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:15.519 or if McKenna was chasing a fourteen year old white 1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:17.559 girl and we brought that up. There's no way they 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:19.599 would have chased the fourte year old white girl. No way, 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:22.479 There's no fucking way, no way there are. The camera 1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:24.800 goes to a black woman juror who is looking him 1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:27.920 up and down with a grin like you've been gotten, 1:10:28.000 --> 1:10:31.240 you fool. Derek had no more questions and amorrow is 1:10:31.280 --> 1:10:34.120 asked to step down, and then another juror, also a 1:10:34.160 --> 1:10:36.559 black woman, asks wait, we can ask something right. 1:10:37.200 --> 1:10:38.040 Derek allows it. 1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:40.760 She asks, detective, do you think it would have made 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:45.160 a difference that night if you hadn't been drinking? Tomorrow? Answers, ma'am, 1:10:45.320 --> 1:10:49.240 My judgment was not impaired. She asks another question, like okay, 1:10:49.360 --> 1:10:51.360 and like that lawyer said if it had been a 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:53.720 fourteen year old white girl. He says, I did not 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:58.200 shoot yousif because he's black. Shelian's back and says, so 1:10:58.240 --> 1:11:01.760 you honestly think you did ever everything right. It takes 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:04.040 them a few moments to gather himself, and he says, 1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:06.200 there's no right way to shoot a fourteen year old boy, 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:09.120 cripple him and put him in a wheelchair. I've always 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:12.400 prided myself on following my training and my professionalism and 1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:15.720 respect for the law. I've been struggling to reconcile with 1:11:15.800 --> 1:11:18.760 how doing everything right can lead to such a horribly 1:11:18.920 --> 1:11:19.759 wrong result. 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:21.880 Tears are welled up in his eyes. 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:25.240 But if it was that situation again, would I do 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:25.920 the same thing? 1:11:26.200 --> 1:11:31.200 Yes? But do I regret yes? Yes I do. So 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:33.120 if you regret it, why would you do everything the 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:35.160 same way? Okay? 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:38.599 So she's deep in thought. Everyone on the jury is 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:39.719 like thinking honestly. 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:43.559 So Amaro was standing in the hallway as Benson approaches 1:11:43.640 --> 1:11:45.720 and asks if he wants to take a walk, but 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:48.120 he doesn't because Calhoun said this would be fast. They 1:11:48.120 --> 1:11:52.360 only need thirteen people to indict. Calhoun walks over to him, 1:11:52.479 --> 1:11:55.519 but before Calhoun can even say anything, Nick says, you 1:11:55.560 --> 1:11:58.560 are right, counselor, this was a mistake, and she goes, no, 1:11:58.920 --> 1:12:01.519 I was wrong. Tenant, dight and eight didn't want to 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:04.479 He is free to go. Oh wow, she is going 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:07.839 to tell the press that the DA overreached, and Benson 1:12:07.880 --> 1:12:11.320 thanks Rita. She spins away, ready to make the mayor 1:12:11.360 --> 1:12:14.360 and commissioner like trip all over their shit and all 1:12:14.400 --> 1:12:15.519 all over their ties. 1:12:15.800 --> 1:12:18.639 She what was she gonna say? Balls, trip all over 1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:21.720 their balls? I think that's what I think that's the 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:25.760 that's a saying yeah, but she says ties walk over 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:26.640 your dicks. 1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:29.880 Yeah, she's a little dirty humor. I was gonna go 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:33.080 have a martini afterwork. So Benson says cynic like, let's 1:12:33.080 --> 1:12:34.840 get the hell out of here. But then we get 1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:37.320 a glimpse of usif surrounded by his family in a wheelchair, 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:41.360 and that is bullshit, Like I to not indict this 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:44.080 cop who paralyzed this kid, because I wonder if there's 1:12:44.120 --> 1:12:46.240 no indict if they can still do a civil trial 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:48.880 and like sue the department or not you can, okay, 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:52.400 so that at least, but I mean, I don't I 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:54.920 can't imagine how this family is feeling right now, like 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:58.240 that they're like that their son doesn't fucking matter. So 1:12:58.280 --> 1:13:00.400 then Nick decides to go talk to them, which is 1:13:00.960 --> 1:13:01.960 a bullshit decision. 1:13:02.080 --> 1:13:05.280 Leave them alone. He can't walk, so then Reverend Curtis 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:08.960 stops him, thank God, like, Nick, get the fuck over 1:13:09.040 --> 1:13:13.320 yourself and says, now's not the time, officer, while putting 1:13:13.320 --> 1:13:15.639 his hands up to stop him from getting any closer 1:13:15.680 --> 1:13:18.759 to the family. And Nick does walk away, but really slowly, 1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:20.800 and he still looks at them, and he breathes really 1:13:20.880 --> 1:13:23.240 deep and then bites his lip and he starts to cry. 1:13:24.000 --> 1:13:25.960 So now he's back at work at the desk, and 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:29.000 Craigan puts his badge back on his desk and Nick asks, like, 1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:32.360 what does one PP want? So after two days of negotiations, 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:36.200 he's looking at command discipline, anger management, and mandatory retraining 1:13:36.280 --> 1:13:39.080 to be done using vacation days, and for the moment, 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:41.960 he's on desk duty until Benson says he's not, and 1:13:42.040 --> 1:13:44.600 she looks up from her desk and goes, what And 1:13:44.720 --> 1:13:47.519 Finn's listening now too, and Craigan asks for their attention 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:50.640 from everybody and says, listen up. He didn't want to 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:53.880 announce this until Nick's situation got resolved, and now that 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:58.360 it's done, so is he he is leaving? Robin screams 1:13:58.520 --> 1:14:02.120 what now? So Tomorrow stands up and is like, if 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:04.840 this is part of the deal, then fuck this. Craig goes, Nope, 1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:07.200 this is my call. I'm going to travel around the 1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:09.680 world with Eileen. She got us two tickets for a 1:14:09.720 --> 1:14:14.040 six month cruise. And he's accrued enough leave too, like 1:14:14.560 --> 1:14:17.520 he can take all of his leave until his mandatory retirement. 1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:20.439 So basically he would make less money if he stayed 1:14:21.040 --> 1:14:23.240 than if he left. And Rollin starts to tear up 1:14:23.240 --> 1:14:26.439 and says, well, if anyone's earned it, and he's honored 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:28.960 and grateful to Rick was such a great group of detectives, 1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:31.639 and he says that the finest he knows, and he's proud. 1:14:31.920 --> 1:14:32.720 He's proud of them. 1:14:33.240 --> 1:14:35.240 He says, Nick, you will get through this because you're 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:38.120 a good cop and a good man Amanda, he was 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:40.680 never sorry for bringing her up from Atlanta, and he 1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:43.360 would do it again. And then Finn, he says, for 1:14:43.400 --> 1:14:45.800 a guy who should have never been an SVU detective, 1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:51.720 you're okay. He says right back at you, captain, and 1:14:51.800 --> 1:14:54.519 nobody can ever take your place, and Craigan says, well 1:14:54.560 --> 1:14:57.639 for the meantime, Detective Benson will it's not easy going 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.280 from player to coach, so don't bust her chops, and 1:15:00.280 --> 1:15:02.559 then he leans into Benson and says, if they do, 1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:03.439 just give. 1:15:03.280 --> 1:15:04.120 It right back. 1:15:04.160 --> 1:15:06.320 And then everyone claps, and I do love merch because 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:07.559 black manicure it's perfect. 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:09.679 Everyone claps, keep. 1:15:09.520 --> 1:15:12.160 Clapping, and he's now packing up his office and Benson 1:15:12.200 --> 1:15:14.559 comes into chat. Benson says, we got to throw you 1:15:14.600 --> 1:15:17.400 a party. He goes, I don't like parties, and she giggles. 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:21.639 He says this is good word of advice. She says please, 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:24.280 and they giggle again. He says, I gave my whole 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:26.479 life to the NYPD and I forgot to live my 1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:29.519 own me and Eileen, that's a hail Mary, that's my 1:15:29.560 --> 1:15:32.120 shot at happiness. People used to say this to me 1:15:32.200 --> 1:15:34.320 all the time, and I never understood what they meant, 1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:37.839 but take care of yourself. She smiles a tender smile. 1:15:38.160 --> 1:15:39.360 He says, you deserve it. 1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:40.000 They hug. 1:15:40.560 --> 1:15:42.479 He takes his bag of stuff on the way out 1:15:42.520 --> 1:15:45.520 and says, oh, and Olivia do something with the place. 1:15:45.320 --> 1:15:45.640 Will you? 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:49.120 And that's dick well baby, And she does do something 1:15:49.160 --> 1:15:53.800 with the place. She turns it into a sleek, modern future. Yeah, 1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:56.599 I profiling place. I miss the way the priestcinct used 1:15:56.600 --> 1:15:59.360 to look. I'm gonna be honest, thank you Lisa for 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:02.680 walking us through that very wild episode. 1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:05.400 It's not it's not going to look up from here. 1:16:05.439 --> 1:16:16.200 I'm going to say that. So Ramarlee Graham. 1:16:16.240 --> 1:16:18.160 This is the case of Vermarley Graham, who was eighteen 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:20.360 years old born in Jamaica, but was living in the 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:23.679 Bronx in twenty twelve. And on February second of twenty twelve, 1:16:24.000 --> 1:16:26.960 a narcotics unit was taking out a bodega on East 1:16:26.960 --> 1:16:29.640 two hundred and twenty eighth Street in the Bronx. I 1:16:29.640 --> 1:16:32.240 think it's the Wakefield neighborhood of the Bronx where a 1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:36.200 tipster told them drugs were being sold again, drugs, Like 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:40.320 I don't think anybody said, hey, there's a cartel there 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:42.960 with tons and tons of heroin. It sounds like it's 1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:45.960 baggies of weed and coke passing between people. Like it 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:50.400 doesn't sound like it's, you know, massive quantities. I understand 1:16:50.439 --> 1:16:53.360 that drugs are a problem, but I have a problem 1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:57.240 with the war on drugs a little bit. Officers reportedly 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:00.160 saw three men leaving the bodega, and they said that 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:02.840 they observed the butt of a gun on Romarley Graham, 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:05.519 who they claimed was adjusting it in the waistband of 1:17:05.520 --> 1:17:09.480 his pants. So this a man with the most hilariously 1:17:09.920 --> 1:17:14.439 named cop of all time, Richard Haste. Officer Richard Haste, 1:17:14.760 --> 1:17:17.080 like you know, Haste is like when you work without thinking, 1:17:17.120 --> 1:17:20.760 you go too quickly, and Officer John McLaughlin were in 1:17:20.800 --> 1:17:23.320 a police van for prisoners and they saw Graham on 1:17:23.360 --> 1:17:26.160 the street and they followed him. The police at first 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:28.560 claimed that Ramarley ran away from them, but that was 1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:32.479 later debunked when surveillance footage showed him walking casually as 1:17:32.520 --> 1:17:36.400 the police followed him. And then Richard Hays followed Graham 1:17:36.479 --> 1:17:39.360 into the apartment building that he shared with his grandmother, 1:17:39.840 --> 1:17:42.080 even though he did not have permission to enter that home. 1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:44.719 And that's probably why they said that he. 1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:46.439 Was running so that they could claim that they were 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:48.400 in pursuit, because then I think cops can enter our 1:17:48.400 --> 1:17:51.000 places if they're in hot pursuit. But they can't. They 1:17:51.000 --> 1:17:53.679 can't just go into places without warrens. So when Hays 1:17:53.720 --> 1:17:57.160 got to the apartment, Romarley was in the bathroom dumping 1:17:57.160 --> 1:17:59.600 a small amount of marijuana into the toilet, trying to 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:01.519 flush it. So this is like a kid that's like, fuck, 1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:03.000 I don't want the cops to bust me for weed 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:07.280 flushing a tiny bit of weed in tinfoil. And his 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:10.240 grandmother's right there, and like that's what is like the 1:18:10.280 --> 1:18:12.519 punishment for a small amount of weed in America. If 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:15.280 you're a cop, it's like you like you just basically 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:19.240 get to kill them. So the idiot cop shot multiple 1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:21.640 rounds into this eighteen year old and murdered him right 1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:25.800 in front of his grandmother. He so unfortunately he wasn't 1:18:25.840 --> 1:18:29.120 saved by the cop like in this episode. He did die, 1:18:29.439 --> 1:18:32.680 and the cop later claimed that he thought Romarley was 1:18:32.720 --> 1:18:34.720 reaching for a gun in his waistband and that he 1:18:34.720 --> 1:18:37.639 heard another officer say, I see the weapon. It's on him, 1:18:38.000 --> 1:18:40.440 so much like in this episode, it was like secondhand 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:43.240 information about what other officers were telling each other. 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:46.120 And guess what, there was no fucking gun. There was 1:18:46.160 --> 1:18:46.760 never a gun. 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:48.880 Okay, there was no brother going out the window like 1:18:48.920 --> 1:18:50.880 in the episode. There was just no fucking gun at all. 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:52.559 Like I think they found a toy gun in the 1:18:52.560 --> 1:18:54.280 backyard of the house. That's as close to a gun 1:18:54.320 --> 1:18:58.520 as they found. So originally hayste is put on desk duty. 1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:01.920 Then he is charged with slaughter, and so he was 1:19:01.960 --> 1:19:04.920 indicted and charged with manslaughter. But then a judge had 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:08.120 to dismiss the charges. This is in May of twenty 1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:11.320 thirteen because they found that the prosecution had given improper 1:19:11.360 --> 1:19:13.760 instructions to the grand jury that indicted him, and the 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:16.960 judge was pissed. Like the judge was named Justice Stephen 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:21.000 Barrett said, quote with not great pleasure, I'm obliged in. 1:19:20.960 --> 1:19:22.320 This case to dismiss the charges. 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:27.320 So they instructed him them based on something that involved 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:32.000 what the cop was told by other cops and that 1:19:32.120 --> 1:19:34.600 made it that placed in importance on it that it 1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:36.800 didn't need to be placed on it, that would have 1:19:36.800 --> 1:19:39.080 come out in trial later, and they said that could 1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:40.360 have influenced the indictment. 1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:42.040 So they had to dismiss that. 1:19:42.080 --> 1:19:45.679 Trial, and then another grand jury, much like in this episode, 1:19:45.960 --> 1:19:49.080 decided not to charge him. So this was the So 1:19:49.200 --> 1:19:52.439 basically he's saying I saw gun. His lawyers are trying 1:19:52.479 --> 1:19:54.840 to say this was an officer trying to get a 1:19:54.880 --> 1:19:57.479 gun off the streets, trying to help people try like 1:19:58.040 --> 1:20:02.000 and everyone else is like, no, this is absolute bullshit 1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:04.320 like this. It's also it's like weed, what are you 1:20:04.360 --> 1:20:07.879 talking about? So this is in twenty twelve. An NYPD 1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:10.519 officer had not been charged in a case involving a 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:13.919 police shooting since two thousand and seven, when three detectives 1:20:13.960 --> 1:20:16.600 were charged in the murder of Sean Bell, which was 1:20:16.760 --> 1:20:18.439 huge when I was living in New York, Like, that 1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:20.639 was in the papers every day. This was a guy 1:20:20.680 --> 1:20:24.360 who was shot on his wedding day, like outside. It 1:20:24.400 --> 1:20:26.120 was basically he was outside of a strip club. I 1:20:26.120 --> 1:20:27.880 think his bachelor party had been the night before. He 1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:30.360 was shot by these cops outside of a strip club 1:20:30.439 --> 1:20:31.320 in Queen's. 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:32.800 And it was the day he was supposed to get married. 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:35.439 It was horrible and it was all over the news 1:20:35.479 --> 1:20:37.559 back when I lived in New York. And it's been 1:20:37.640 --> 1:20:40.040 five years since any cop has been charged, and a 1:20:40.080 --> 1:20:42.880 lot of anger about police brutality and racial profileing by 1:20:42.920 --> 1:20:45.679 the police had sort of faded, and now this murder 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:48.160 of Romarley Graham brought it all back into the forefront. 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:52.599 So when the judge dismissed the case, obviously Ramarley's family 1:20:52.720 --> 1:20:55.720 was like screaming and angry in the court. But when 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:59.200 hayeswapped out, cops were in line, high fiving him as 1:20:59.200 --> 1:21:03.000 he walked out, of course, so eventually the city did 1:21:03.120 --> 1:21:05.880 pay Ramarley Graham's family three point nine million dollars in 1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:08.839 a civil suit. So they did get a civil judgment. 1:21:09.520 --> 1:21:13.040 But five years after the shooting, which happened in twenty twelve, 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:15.719 this is now twenty seventeen, there was an internal NYPD 1:21:15.840 --> 1:21:20.280 investigation into haste handling of the shooting. Prosecutors were looking 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:22.320 to get Haste fired and they said he never should 1:21:22.360 --> 1:21:24.920 have entered the apartment alone or kicked down the bathroom door, 1:21:25.320 --> 1:21:28.599 and one of the prosecutors, Beth Douglas said, quote Officer 1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:31.240 Hayse was completely exposed and used none of the tactics 1:21:31.240 --> 1:21:33.439 that were taught to him in the department end quote. 1:21:33.640 --> 1:21:35.800 And his lawyers again tried to argue, this is a 1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:37.360 hero trying to keep it going off the streets. But 1:21:37.400 --> 1:21:41.080 eventually he was found guilty in the NYPD disciplinary review, 1:21:41.280 --> 1:21:43.600 which ruled that he had used poor tactical judgment and 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:46.080 recommended his dismissal. And so he had been on the 1:21:46.120 --> 1:21:47.920 force for not even ten years. He had been on 1:21:47.960 --> 1:21:51.439 since two thousand and eight. So twenty seventeen, he gets 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:53.960 indict not indicted, but he gets found guilty by this 1:21:54.000 --> 1:21:55.360 disciplinary review and. 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:57.760 He tenders his resignation two days later. 1:21:58.240 --> 1:22:01.240 The disciplinary review board also said that right after Ramarley 1:22:01.280 --> 1:22:04.479 locked himself in his apartment, officers should have retreated, but 1:22:04.560 --> 1:22:06.680 this idiot had to like go off and go in. 1:22:06.920 --> 1:22:09.519 So they they, you know, were like, this is not 1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:12.960 how we train people. So officer has, uh, just like 1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:15.519 Amorrow had the whole plea deal thing, which he kind 1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:19.080 of ended up rejecting. This guy, officer has also rejected 1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:21.439 a plea deal. And in the plea deal, he wouldn't 1:22:21.439 --> 1:22:23.439 have had to have the disciplinary hearing. He would have 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:26.400 just resigned with a small pension. And he thought, no, no, 1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:27.960 the boys in blue are going to back me up. 1:22:28.000 --> 1:22:30.160 But like actually they're like, no, you are actually super dumb. 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:31.599 And you are too dumb to be a cop. So 1:22:32.120 --> 1:22:34.240 he is off the force and that's the only good 1:22:34.240 --> 1:22:38.639 thing in this story. But sadly Ramartley Graham lost his life. Yeah, 1:22:38.640 --> 1:22:41.439 but even just like the pension of it all is 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:44.000 so annoying where it's like even this three point nine 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:46.759 million dollars, like that should come out of their probably 1:22:47.520 --> 1:22:50.920 like it sucks because why does it actually hurt them, 1:22:50.960 --> 1:22:52.960 Like the police pay out I think hundreds of millions 1:22:52.960 --> 1:22:56.040 of dollars in wrongful days. Oh yeah, suits and all this, 1:22:56.240 --> 1:22:58.280 but it comes out of our like we pay like 1:22:58.760 --> 1:23:01.040 our taxes pay for that, I know, And that is 1:23:01.080 --> 1:23:03.400 like if I that was like one of my top things. 1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:04.760 I stayed all the time on this pot. 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:07.680 But they should have to pay for it because there 1:23:07.680 --> 1:23:09.360 were a couple of other kids should have their. 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:13.200 Way, they should have their like salary garnish. 1:23:13.360 --> 1:23:15.920 Yeah, because there were a couple of other cases that 1:23:16.000 --> 1:23:19.479 were kind of linked to the Oranges the New Black 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:23.479 Woman's uh side of it, where cops shot by accident, 1:23:23.600 --> 1:23:25.280 Like one guy shot a kid when he was just 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:28.200 like unholstering his gun and it went off and like 1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:32.639 those those cops like did get off. But also huge 1:23:32.640 --> 1:23:35.320 civil amounts were awarded to those families as well, So 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:38.439 which good. But I mean, I don't know how much 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:40.559 you pay for someone's life. But yeah, you're right, it's 1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:42.840 like it's happening all the time. They are paying millions 1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:44.080 and millions and millions all the time. 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:46.519 So that's that. 1:23:46.760 --> 1:23:49.960 It's a fucked up case and a fucked up episode. 1:23:50.000 --> 1:23:53.360 But guys, we're about to make your day with an 1:23:53.400 --> 1:24:05.200 amazing guest, so stay right where you are. Our guest 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:08.759 today truly needs no introduction, but he will get one anyway. 1:24:08.880 --> 1:24:12.120 He is known for his role as Detective Scottie Vallens 1:24:12.160 --> 1:24:15.839 on Cold Case or a drug cartel leader Miguel Galindo 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:18.680 on My Ens, but you guys know him as the 1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:22.800 lovable hothead detective Nickomarrow. Please enjoy a chat that we 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:30.040 enjoyed so much with the very talented Danny Pino. Danny Pino, gosh, 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:32.040 we've been waiting a long time for this. 1:24:32.200 --> 1:24:33.160 We're very excited. 1:24:33.320 --> 1:24:35.320 Oh well, I'm excited too. Thank you for having me. 1:24:35.640 --> 1:24:38.560 This is huge for USAIC. 1:24:39.360 --> 1:24:41.720 People didn't hear it, but in your soundtrack you mentioned him. 1:24:41.720 --> 1:24:44.400 He was our first cast member guest. Of course he was, 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:47.080 so it was a big and he was amazing. 1:24:47.160 --> 1:24:49.240 He took out a charcoal drawing of him and the 1:24:49.240 --> 1:24:52.840 monkey and the basketball from an episode in season ten, 1:24:53.000 --> 1:24:56.000 and he was a legend. 1:24:56.800 --> 1:24:58.440 But we are so excited. 1:24:58.040 --> 1:25:01.160 To have you here today so we could talk about 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:04.840 your illustrious career on Law and Order SVU, but also 1:25:04.920 --> 1:25:06.479 other projects you. 1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:07.000 Have going on. 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:10.280 When you came onto this show, you'd already been in 1:25:10.320 --> 1:25:13.400 like procedurals like Cold Case and stuff like that, right, 1:25:13.439 --> 1:25:15.760 so you'd been on a procedural before, but you kind 1:25:15.800 --> 1:25:18.559 of came at a time where like Maloney had just 1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:21.360 left and you were like sort of filling these big 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:23.080 Maloney size shoes. 1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:24.640 What was that like? 1:25:24.760 --> 1:25:26.600 Do you remember how like what it was like at 1:25:26.640 --> 1:25:28.160 the beginning. I'm sure by the end it was like, 1:25:28.600 --> 1:25:31.000 you know, the well oiled machine we hear about all 1:25:31.000 --> 1:25:33.479 the time, that is the SVU set, But like, how 1:25:33.560 --> 1:25:35.919 was it when you just walked into the role of Amorrow. 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:38.360 Well, first of all, thank you for having me. I'm 1:25:38.400 --> 1:25:43.360 excited to revisit Tomorrow. I'm excited to you know, revisit 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:48.000 Law and Order SVU. Some of the best years of 1:25:48.000 --> 1:25:52.599 my career were spent in that precinct with that crew 1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:55.880 and with that cast and those writers, knowing that we 1:25:55.880 --> 1:25:58.439 were going to talk about Tomorrow's one eighty today, I 1:25:58.520 --> 1:26:02.000 rewatched it and uh, you know, I I'm just so 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:04.960 proud of the work that we all did there and 1:26:05.000 --> 1:26:09.160 to be counted among that. You know, that legacy and 1:26:09.320 --> 1:26:13.160 Chris Maloney is no different. The legacy that he left. 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:16.439 His shadow was long. And I didn't really just walk 1:26:16.479 --> 1:26:18.439 into it, you know, it wasn't It wasn't like it 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:21.600 was presented to me as like you are going to 1:26:21.640 --> 1:26:27.720 be sort of Benson's next partner. In fact, having to 1:26:27.760 --> 1:26:31.760 come and test for the role was something that was mandatory, 1:26:32.560 --> 1:26:36.280 you know, given how big a role it was, and 1:26:36.320 --> 1:26:39.080 how you know, like I said, the legacy of the 1:26:39.120 --> 1:26:42.479 show was sort of at a tipping point. And so 1:26:42.760 --> 1:26:47.120 I flew out to New York, and you know, I 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:49.880 was among you know, several other actors who they were 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:54.160 looking to cast. And so when I landed and I 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:57.800 was the last one to test, I walked on to set. 1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:01.320 It was the most actualized test I've ever been a 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:04.639 part of. We were actually in the in the conference 1:27:04.720 --> 1:27:11.840 room of the precinct, and we we actually had a 1:27:11.880 --> 1:27:17.400 full crew. They had cameras set up on Dolly's and 1:27:18.040 --> 1:27:23.720 they had lighting. They had cast actors to read opposite 1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:26.880 me who were off book, so it was almost as 1:27:26.920 --> 1:27:30.720 if we were shooting a scene and my character then, 1:27:30.840 --> 1:27:33.720 you know, didn't really have a name. So I just 1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:38.040 I walked onto, you know, onto the set, and I 1:27:38.080 --> 1:27:42.679 remember the actor was asleep, you know, playing playing that character. 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:43.719 The character was asleep. 1:27:44.640 --> 1:27:46.479 And when I walked onto the set the first time 1:27:46.680 --> 1:27:49.080 to sort of rehearse and kind of get a sense 1:27:49.120 --> 1:27:50.920 as to how we were going to shoot this, I 1:27:50.960 --> 1:27:53.959 looked down and there were a bunch of marks already 1:27:54.280 --> 1:27:57.000 on the floor right And I looked up and you know, 1:27:57.080 --> 1:27:59.080 having done it for a while, I realized, well, they've 1:27:59.080 --> 1:28:02.760 already set up the light and that's probably corresponding with 1:28:02.840 --> 1:28:05.360 the marks. And the camera was already on a Dolly 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:08.720 on a track, so they had all the movements set up. 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:12.920 And I called, you know, Michael Green, who became a 1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:14.960 very good friend, you know, after that. I didn't know 1:28:15.000 --> 1:28:17.360 who he was before that, but that was the director 1:28:17.400 --> 1:28:21.280 of photography. I called Michael greenover and I said, how 1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:24.320 vital are these marks? Like do I have to hit 1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:28.400 these particular marks? I mean, who set these marks. They said, well, 1:28:29.000 --> 1:28:34.439 the previous actors who came into audition, the first actor 1:28:34.560 --> 1:28:37.599 set them, and then everybody else sort of like hit 1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:40.440 those marks throughout the day of auditioning. 1:28:41.080 --> 1:28:42.040 And I looked at. 1:28:41.880 --> 1:28:43.760 Michael and I said, would it be okay if we 1:28:44.040 --> 1:28:46.840 lifted the marks? I mean, I don't want to be 1:28:47.080 --> 1:28:49.120 held to what other actors did. I kind of want 1:28:49.120 --> 1:28:52.439 to find this character on my own. And I said, 1:28:52.520 --> 1:28:55.040 and I'm aware that you've set up your lights, and 1:28:55.120 --> 1:28:58.599 I don't want to cause any issues, but I also 1:28:58.720 --> 1:29:02.320 don't feel like I want to step into somebody else's instincts. 1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:04.240 I want to follow my own instincts in the scene. 1:29:04.760 --> 1:29:06.800 And if I'm going to get the role, it'll be 1:29:06.800 --> 1:29:10.000 because I followed my instincts, not because I was trying 1:29:10.000 --> 1:29:14.040 to fit somebody else's sort of parameters. And Michael looked 1:29:14.080 --> 1:29:16.760 up at his lights and he looked at me and 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:18.880 he's he looked back at the crew that was all, 1:29:19.000 --> 1:29:23.479 you know, uh waiting, and he said, uh, strip the marks, boys, please, 1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:27.920 And so they stripped the marks. And I looked over 1:29:27.960 --> 1:29:31.280 the shoulder, over his shoulder, and Mariushka was standing, you know, 1:29:31.400 --> 1:29:35.360 kind of in the precinct with Dick Wolf and you 1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:39.920 know that whole brain trust watching the audition, and I thought, 1:29:39.960 --> 1:29:42.120 for sure, I'm never going to get this, Like I 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:45.800 already came in and rocked the boat, and and so 1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:48.320 we found it. We found the scene. I never felt 1:29:48.360 --> 1:29:52.679 like I was replacing Chris Maloney, although obviously I think 1:29:52.720 --> 1:29:59.480 that that's a convenient and probably easy way to phrase it. Thankfully, 1:29:59.640 --> 1:30:03.559 I can't on board with Kelly Giddish, right, and so 1:30:04.160 --> 1:30:07.840 in fact she in terms of the chronology of shooting, 1:30:08.160 --> 1:30:09.519 Kelly started before me. 1:30:09.680 --> 1:30:13.719 Did you guys have kind of like an immediate kinship 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:15.960 since you both entered in season thirteen? 1:30:16.880 --> 1:30:17.480 Absolutely? 1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:20.280 Yeah, I think I think we both We both knew 1:30:20.840 --> 1:30:25.360 that there was a microscope on us, and you know, 1:30:25.400 --> 1:30:29.000 the pressure was high. We felt a certain amount of 1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:32.639 responsibility not only to the show and to the cast 1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:36.120 and to the crew, but also to the fans. You know, 1:30:36.240 --> 1:30:39.040 we wanted to make sure that the fans saw a 1:30:39.080 --> 1:30:42.679 show that they were familiar with but that was new. 1:30:42.920 --> 1:30:44.080 Well, yeah, we were curious. 1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:46.960 So like when you watch this back or when you 1:30:47.000 --> 1:30:49.599 were reading these scripts, when Tomorrow does go kind of 1:30:50.400 --> 1:30:53.840 rogue or makes these mistakes, what goes through your mind 1:30:53.880 --> 1:30:55.479 when you read, are you like, what the fuck don't 1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:55.720 do this? 1:30:55.960 --> 1:30:58.479 Or you like you have to understand what he's doing, 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:02.280 or like how is that? When you're reading? 1:31:02.600 --> 1:31:06.479 Well man, you know, mostly exciting, you know, and whatever 1:31:06.520 --> 1:31:09.479 you feel As an actor, you know, I don't know 1:31:09.479 --> 1:31:10.280 how I'm gonna do this. 1:31:10.560 --> 1:31:14.360 I mean, I'm I'm a little bit scared by this, 1:31:14.360 --> 1:31:15.000 this arc. 1:31:15.280 --> 1:31:16.720 You know, how am I gonna How am I going 1:31:16.800 --> 1:31:20.360 to play that without overdoing it? Without under selling it? 1:31:20.360 --> 1:31:21.560 How am I going to stay in the moment and 1:31:21.920 --> 1:31:25.400 really you know, give the character his due, Especially when 1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:27.680 you get great writing, You're like, I just don't want 1:31:27.680 --> 1:31:30.519 to mess this up, you know. So, I mean that's 1:31:30.560 --> 1:31:34.600 really that's really my main focus. You know, I'm a 1:31:34.640 --> 1:31:38.800 fan first, so I get to read, I get to 1:31:38.880 --> 1:31:39.599 read what. 1:31:39.680 --> 1:31:41.760 Is happening for the characters. 1:31:41.960 --> 1:31:44.479 I'm among the first one the first people to find 1:31:44.520 --> 1:31:46.880 out what is going to happen. So it's a page turner, 1:31:47.000 --> 1:31:49.640 especially with you know, with our writing staff. It was 1:31:49.680 --> 1:31:51.840 like I wanted to find out what was going on, 1:31:52.080 --> 1:31:54.920 and and then I pay very close attention to sort 1:31:54.960 --> 1:31:59.519 of what that roller coaster of emotion and anticipation, what's 1:31:59.520 --> 1:32:03.599 going to happen next In that first read, I try 1:32:03.640 --> 1:32:06.960 to pay a lot of attention to that because that's 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:09.240 essentially the ride that the fans are going to take. 1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:11.320 And so when I. 1:32:11.240 --> 1:32:15.439 Read that first uh, that first read through of the script, 1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:20.160 I don't take notes, I don't highlight anything. It really 1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:23.000 is sitting down for forty five minutes to an hour 1:32:23.520 --> 1:32:28.559 without interruption and just let the story flow through. And 1:32:28.640 --> 1:32:31.760 so that way I know, okay, I'm keenly aware of 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:33.479 how this story blows. 1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:36.240 You did mention that the character there was no name, 1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:38.519 There was kind of nothing like all the guys you 1:32:38.560 --> 1:32:39.320 were auditioning with. 1:32:39.400 --> 1:32:40.639 Did everyone look different? 1:32:41.000 --> 1:32:43.160 Did they have any idea or did you really create 1:32:43.960 --> 1:32:47.240 this person together and like the name of him? Or 1:32:47.280 --> 1:32:51.160 I also noticed like first scene in the personal fouls 1:32:51.200 --> 1:32:54.040 facial hair, second scene no facial hair, Like did you 1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:55.920 come in with a beer? Did they want to take it? Like, 1:32:55.960 --> 1:32:57.439 I'm just so curious about that. 1:32:57.960 --> 1:33:00.599 I think you know the idea was and I think 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:05.080 the name came from Warren Light. I'm not sure where 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:06.760 he came up with the name. I know he likes 1:33:06.920 --> 1:33:09.760 Italian red wine, so it could be that you know 1:33:10.400 --> 1:33:12.559 that a morl comes from that I'm not one hundred percent. 1:33:12.640 --> 1:33:15.360 You might have to ask him. The idea that he 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:21.000 was coming in from an undercover squad was, I think, 1:33:21.240 --> 1:33:24.639 something that we were both keen on. And I also 1:33:24.720 --> 1:33:29.639 wanted to come on and not look like Scottie Vollen's right, 1:33:29.760 --> 1:33:34.320 because Cold Case had essentially just ended, and frankly, I 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:38.639 wasn't looking to be on another procedural show. In fact, 1:33:38.680 --> 1:33:41.479 when I was first approached about this opportunity, I turned 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:45.640 it down because I just felt like number one, I 1:33:45.680 --> 1:33:49.840 felt like it wasn't I didn't want to step on 1:33:49.960 --> 1:33:53.920 the same footprint that I had already sort of walked. 1:33:55.000 --> 1:33:58.360 And so I said, you know, let's Cold Case had 1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:02.519 already ended maybe a year before, and I wanted to 1:34:02.600 --> 1:34:05.960 give myself a chance to try something else. And so 1:34:07.000 --> 1:34:12.800 about three days after humbly and gratefully turning down the 1:34:12.840 --> 1:34:16.280 opportunity of being on SVU, I got a call back 1:34:16.800 --> 1:34:21.600 from Dick Wolf and you know, the Wolf camp, and 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:22.920 they said, well, what do you want to what do 1:34:22.960 --> 1:34:23.360 you want? 1:34:23.880 --> 1:34:25.439 What is it that you want? 1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:31.000 And so that conversation started in earnest in terms of 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:34.360 shaping the character and how he would be different from 1:34:34.400 --> 1:34:37.559 Scotty Valance and how you know his arc would be 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:40.960 different from Scotty and that essentially he would be given 1:34:41.360 --> 1:34:43.680 a lot of turmoil and that I'd be able to 1:34:43.720 --> 1:34:47.599 play all of these different levels and shades and whatnot. 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:51.160 And so that started the conversation in earnest and so 1:34:51.200 --> 1:34:51.679 I think. 1:34:51.479 --> 1:34:55.200 That leads back to how do we, you know, close 1:34:55.240 --> 1:34:59.320 a chapter of Cold Case that was so meaningful to me, 1:35:00.400 --> 1:35:03.360 not only as an actor but personally with everybody involved 1:35:03.360 --> 1:35:06.840 on the show and sort of wipe the slate clean 1:35:07.240 --> 1:35:13.080 and show up physically looking different. Uh, so that we 1:35:13.240 --> 1:35:17.800 there's a clean cut between Scottie Vollen's and Nickomarrow. 1:35:18.000 --> 1:35:19.160 And that was one of the. 1:35:19.120 --> 1:35:22.400 Things that that we talked about that Warren and I 1:35:22.439 --> 1:35:25.120 talked about is that he'd come in looking like Circroco. 1:35:25.800 --> 1:35:29.000 And I think there's a line. There's a line where 1:35:29.120 --> 1:35:29.800 they refer to me. 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:34.080 As that Munch calls you at one point, I think, yeah, 1:35:34.120 --> 1:35:34.559 that's right. 1:35:34.560 --> 1:35:38.719 Well, Richard, thank you for bringing up Richard Belzer. 1:35:39.280 --> 1:35:40.280 I love Richard Belzer. 1:35:40.400 --> 1:35:43.600 You guys have like such a friendship as your characters. 1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:46.440 Was that like mimicking a real life friendship? 1:35:47.479 --> 1:35:47.759 Woof? 1:35:49.680 --> 1:35:53.040 Yeah, yeah, he was a legend. 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:57.960 It's hard it's hard to even talk about Brankley. Yeah, 1:35:58.000 --> 1:36:07.920 the mentorship and friendship between myself and Richard Belzer that 1:36:08.120 --> 1:36:14.960 as you can tell, was very real. Uh, you know, 1:36:15.120 --> 1:36:19.680 when just to go back when we're talking about, you know, 1:36:20.080 --> 1:36:26.839 this transition in the show, this sort of false feeling 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:30.840 that we needed to replace anybody or or you know 1:36:31.400 --> 1:36:33.840 whatever that was at the very beginning that we that 1:36:33.880 --> 1:36:36.960 we tried so hard to just you know, move past 1:36:37.000 --> 1:36:39.880 and really create our own story and our own characters, 1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:45.720 and you know, understand what and where our characters were 1:36:45.720 --> 1:36:48.120 coming from so that they would feel real, so that 1:36:48.160 --> 1:36:51.280 it wouldn't feel like, oh, nothing's happening here. We're just 1:36:51.400 --> 1:36:54.080 we're missing this you know, vital piece of what has 1:36:54.080 --> 1:36:57.599 made the last twelve years successful. And we're just going 1:36:57.640 --> 1:37:00.840 to pop these two new characters, and we really wanted 1:37:00.840 --> 1:37:03.880 to invest and make them full and that was what 1:37:04.000 --> 1:37:09.559 our main goal as artists as actors was. However, there's 1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:13.679 always the personal part, right and when you walk into 1:37:13.720 --> 1:37:18.439 the first read through, as you know, these new characters, 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:22.280 as these new people in the production office at you know, 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:27.000 at Chelsea Piers, and the first person to stand up 1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:31.640 from the table and come and greet you and you know, 1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:35.640 give you a hug and just say, hey, I'm excited 1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:39.960 that you're here. You're part of the family. So that's 1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:43.479 that's Richard Belzer, you know. And so it started, It 1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:48.400 started from the very beginning. And I don't know whether 1:37:48.520 --> 1:37:50.800 Warren and Julie and the. 1:37:50.760 --> 1:37:52.519 Writers saw that. 1:37:53.600 --> 1:37:57.880 I don't know, you know, they're very observant, and I'm 1:37:57.880 --> 1:38:02.559 not sure whether you know there were drawing parallels from 1:38:02.840 --> 1:38:06.400 real life to then you know, put in their scripts 1:38:06.720 --> 1:38:07.479 and on our show. 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:12.320 But Belzer from day one was that for me. 1:38:12.920 --> 1:38:13.040 Uh. 1:38:13.880 --> 1:38:17.479 You know Dan Floric also you know, had a lot 1:38:17.520 --> 1:38:20.840 of that. So to see in Tomorrow's one eighty uh, 1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:25.439 that Kragan, you know, the sort of the biggest sort 1:38:25.479 --> 1:38:29.639 of movement at the end of that episode is that Kragan, Uh, 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:33.880 you know leaves squad. You know, I remember that day 1:38:34.439 --> 1:38:40.360 very very clearly. But certainly, you know, Belzer was was 1:38:40.439 --> 1:38:46.400 a a way for tomorrow, you know, Munch was away 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:49.880 for tomorrow to have support and sort of like that 1:38:50.120 --> 1:38:51.280 unconditional support. 1:38:52.120 --> 1:38:55.599 Ah. And you know, I think we all miss him. 1:38:56.680 --> 1:39:01.960 Uh and uh, you know, I I have very very 1:39:02.000 --> 1:39:04.920 beautiful memories of Bells. 1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:06.880 Were you always a theater kid? 1:39:07.200 --> 1:39:09.920 Oh yeah, yeah, since sixth sixth grade. I was. I 1:39:10.000 --> 1:39:12.240 was a theater rat. I was. 1:39:12.400 --> 1:39:15.680 I was always in a player in a musical. I 1:39:15.720 --> 1:39:19.760 studied theater in from my undergrad at Florida International University. 1:39:20.880 --> 1:39:23.600 I got my BFA there and then I went to 1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:26.680 ny US two School of the Arts to get my 1:39:26.800 --> 1:39:30.360 master's degree in theater performance. 1:39:31.040 --> 1:39:34.320 What do you look back on any of your childhood roles? Finally, 1:39:34.840 --> 1:39:36.080 any stick out? 1:39:37.320 --> 1:39:39.560 Yeah? I mean I loved Shakespeare. 1:39:40.120 --> 1:39:43.120 I used to to you know, I used to throw 1:39:43.160 --> 1:39:47.240 myself into that quite a bit, anywhere from Romeo to 1:39:47.320 --> 1:39:51.080 Hamlet to Petrucchio and then as a professional doing Shakespeare 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:52.440 in the Park a few times. 1:39:54.200 --> 1:39:55.639 You know that. Yeah, that was. 1:39:56.280 --> 1:39:58.880 Moments in your career where you look back and you 1:39:59.040 --> 1:40:01.760 just like, I'm at the Delacorte Theater. 1:40:02.280 --> 1:40:05.840 Yeah. Yeah, it's you know, like you know, like the 1:40:05.880 --> 1:40:07.320 legacy of law and order. 1:40:07.640 --> 1:40:11.360 He's you're you're on set and you're like, I'm part 1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:14.120 of I'm part of this legacy of best for you? 1:40:14.120 --> 1:40:15.160 You have so many episodes? 1:40:15.200 --> 1:40:19.520 Are there any episodes or guest stars outside of Omorrow's 1:40:19.560 --> 1:40:22.200 one eighty that you look fondly upon or were hard 1:40:22.280 --> 1:40:25.120 or a funny story or anything, or like an actor 1:40:25.120 --> 1:40:27.880 you were really surprised to see or anything like that. 1:40:28.560 --> 1:40:32.960 Oh man, yeah, I mean the first person who popped 1:40:33.000 --> 1:40:34.200 in my head was on Gray Brower. 1:40:34.720 --> 1:40:37.360 Ah oh wow, Yeah, I mean he rested piece as well. 1:40:38.520 --> 1:40:42.599 Such such an artist, a person that I'd looked up 1:40:42.640 --> 1:40:47.599 to four years, and then to be able to watch 1:40:47.680 --> 1:40:50.120 him work, I looked up to him even more. 1:40:50.320 --> 1:40:50.639 I thought. 1:40:50.640 --> 1:40:53.720 One of the coolest career moves he made was being 1:40:53.760 --> 1:40:57.799 on Brooklyn ninet nine, because he was this super serious actor, 1:40:58.160 --> 1:41:02.000 very respected, and and then he does this like very 1:41:02.040 --> 1:41:03.400 goofy comedy where. 1:41:03.160 --> 1:41:05.600 He absolutely killed it. 1:41:05.640 --> 1:41:08.200 Is that something you have ever like thought about doing 1:41:08.240 --> 1:41:10.080 getting into the comedy space at all? I mean, like 1:41:10.120 --> 1:41:13.439 we're both comedians and obviously this is a pretty serious show. 1:41:13.680 --> 1:41:17.040 We always talk about how like the Bellser seasons were 1:41:17.120 --> 1:41:19.719 kind of like the ones that had the comedy infused 1:41:19.760 --> 1:41:22.200 in it, like you know, you and him had some ribbing, 1:41:22.439 --> 1:41:26.280 him and Finn, you know, But is like, would you 1:41:26.320 --> 1:41:28.519 ever challenge yourself because like, after this show, you did 1:41:28.600 --> 1:41:30.400 my INDs, and you know, you do a lot of 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:33.439 these like gritty dramas. Have you ever thought about like 1:41:34.360 --> 1:41:36.879 being a goofy guy on a sitcom. 1:41:36.880 --> 1:41:41.120 Ever, I think my wife would say, you're a goofy 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:45.920 guy in reality, so that it probably would translate a 1:41:45.960 --> 1:41:49.360 lot easier to doing the comedy than to doing sort 1:41:49.360 --> 1:41:52.519 of these darker, grittier roles. You know, I had the 1:41:53.640 --> 1:41:57.640 honor the great good fortune of working with Rita Moreno 1:41:58.160 --> 1:42:03.920 and oh yes, yes yeah, and being on one day 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:06.200 at a time for an episode. 1:42:07.760 --> 1:42:11.680 It was so much fun. Uh, And it's something that 1:42:11.760 --> 1:42:12.439 I look forward to. 1:42:12.520 --> 1:42:15.880 But you know, Andre could do anything, you know, and 1:42:15.920 --> 1:42:18.160 that's one of those things that I always look up 1:42:18.200 --> 1:42:19.599 to in any performer. 1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:24.080 Why I'll switch episodes brought great memories to We always 1:42:24.080 --> 1:42:26.360 like to talk about the episodes that haunt us forever. 1:42:27.479 --> 1:42:30.840 Are there any that you've read or that scenes you've 1:42:30.880 --> 1:42:32.320 been in it that I have stuck with you and 1:42:32.520 --> 1:42:34.160 have haunted you? 1:42:34.200 --> 1:42:35.160 Maybe Hunting Ground? 1:42:35.200 --> 1:42:37.360 Yeah, I was gonna say one of my best haunted 1:42:37.439 --> 1:42:39.800 is Hunting Ground, which you're a big part of. And 1:42:40.720 --> 1:42:43.200 that's one of those episodes where were like, god, SVU, 1:42:43.880 --> 1:42:45.200 you really took it there. 1:42:45.960 --> 1:42:48.360 Yeah, No, there there were several. I think. 1:42:49.840 --> 1:42:52.320 Any episode that deals with children, you know, I have 1:42:52.680 --> 1:42:55.360 at that I have two boys, and at that time 1:42:56.160 --> 1:42:59.720 my kids were when we moved from Los Angeles to 1:42:59.800 --> 1:43:05.120 New Or to start s View, my sons were going 1:43:05.200 --> 1:43:07.400 one was going into kindergarten and the other one was 1:43:07.400 --> 1:43:09.000 going into. 1:43:09.520 --> 1:43:10.559 The fours in pre k. 1:43:11.320 --> 1:43:16.000 So anything that dealt with kids was tough. I remember 1:43:16.280 --> 1:43:20.759 there were a couple of episodes where I would we'd 1:43:20.760 --> 1:43:25.320 shoot a scene late at night, and it was just tough. 1:43:25.479 --> 1:43:30.760 It was a really tough emotional scene. And I'd come 1:43:30.800 --> 1:43:35.040 home and before i'd even you know, say hello to 1:43:35.080 --> 1:43:36.760 my wife, I knew my kids were asleep. I'd just 1:43:36.800 --> 1:43:39.280 sneak into their room because they shared a room, and 1:43:39.320 --> 1:43:42.880 I would just sit in their room because it was 1:43:43.040 --> 1:43:44.920 just harsh. 1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:45.519 You know. 1:43:45.640 --> 1:43:51.040 It's you know, to sort of understand that our show 1:43:52.080 --> 1:43:56.120 depicts some things that actually happened, and you know, to 1:43:56.200 --> 1:44:00.800 count your blessings and to sort of be able to 1:44:00.880 --> 1:44:05.160 let some of that go even though we are pretending, 1:44:05.680 --> 1:44:09.839 you know, and it's it's all, you know, fictionalized. Sometimes 1:44:09.840 --> 1:44:12.880 your body doesn't know that you know, your emotion does 1:44:12.920 --> 1:44:14.240 you know, you can just let it go and you're like, 1:44:14.280 --> 1:44:16.920 that never happened. We can just walk away, but your 1:44:16.960 --> 1:44:19.720 body still sometimes retains that and so you know, there 1:44:19.720 --> 1:44:21.360 were there were a few times where I just sat 1:44:21.720 --> 1:44:25.320 in in my kids rooms and just like I was 1:44:25.360 --> 1:44:30.760 able to to in Spanish and Cuban, we'd say I 1:44:30.800 --> 1:44:33.920 was able to sort of like release it all. Yeah, 1:44:34.000 --> 1:44:35.680 but yeah, no, I think I think those were the 1:44:35.680 --> 1:44:37.559 hardest ones to sort of get past. 1:44:37.880 --> 1:44:39.519 Yeah, those kid actors are. 1:44:39.400 --> 1:44:44.840 So good, so good. One of the memories from Amorro's 1:44:44.840 --> 1:44:49.799 one eighty. Yes. Yeah, I'm not sure whether Dan Floord 1:44:49.960 --> 1:44:54.240 mentioned his last day, did he? Did he talk about him? 1:44:54.320 --> 1:44:56.360 Well, he told us about the gift because someone gave 1:44:56.439 --> 1:45:00.639 him that painting with him and Kimba, and we really 1:45:00.680 --> 1:45:02.600 loved that monkey. Well, I could tell you what he 1:45:02.640 --> 1:45:04.479 fed the monkey. That's what I remember. He gave the 1:45:04.479 --> 1:45:07.439 monkey gummy bears. But I don't remember the last day. 1:45:08.040 --> 1:45:10.240 We probably we talked to him for a little while 1:45:10.320 --> 1:45:13.120 and I'm not sure what actually made the interview or not, 1:45:13.200 --> 1:45:14.559 but I think he mentioned it. 1:45:14.640 --> 1:45:18.439 But tell us, well, we just talked about Shakespeare. So 1:45:19.320 --> 1:45:24.000 Dan Floric is a fantastic, phenomenal talent. I mean, he's 1:45:24.080 --> 1:45:27.719 been doing Shakespeare, you know, his entire career, and he's 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:31.880 just one of those pros that I look up to 1:45:32.680 --> 1:45:35.400 not only as a friend and as a mentor, but 1:45:35.560 --> 1:45:39.559 just as an artist. And the way that he left 1:45:39.600 --> 1:45:43.240 the show that you know, that day when I was 1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:46.679 watching Tomorrow's one eighty, it just came all rushing back. 1:45:47.400 --> 1:45:50.520 I believe it was a prospero monologue. 1:45:50.920 --> 1:45:54.680 So the entire crew comes out, you know, some of 1:45:54.720 --> 1:45:57.080 the writers were there, some of the producers were there. 1:45:57.640 --> 1:45:59.600 You know, some of the actors who weren't in the 1:45:59.640 --> 1:46:03.240 scene came in any way, and you know, there are 1:46:03.280 --> 1:46:07.040 applause all around, and you know, very emotional, and Dan 1:46:07.600 --> 1:46:11.200 quiets everybody down, and we expect for him to say 1:46:11.640 --> 1:46:15.880 something to the crew and to the cast and to 1:46:15.920 --> 1:46:20.640 the writers, and he takes a moment, he gathers himself, 1:46:20.880 --> 1:46:23.760 and I'm thinking, well, he's getting emotional. You know, I 1:46:23.800 --> 1:46:26.599 don't know that he's going to be able to express anything. 1:46:27.280 --> 1:46:31.400 And he goes into this monologue without saying I want 1:46:31.400 --> 1:46:34.240 to say this thing of the Shakespeare, this Prospero model. 1:46:34.320 --> 1:46:37.600 He just goes into it and it's about life and 1:46:37.640 --> 1:46:42.160 it's about time, and it's about sort of understanding the 1:46:42.240 --> 1:46:46.280 value of the people around you. And I don't remember 1:46:46.320 --> 1:46:50.280 the monologue exactly, but I remember how it made me 1:46:50.360 --> 1:46:53.920 feel and it made me feel number one, an incredible 1:46:53.960 --> 1:46:58.639 amount of respect for this man who chose this moment 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:01.000 to deliver this monologue. 1:47:01.160 --> 1:47:01.719 Wasn't reading. 1:47:01.760 --> 1:47:05.080 It was off the top of his head, and it 1:47:05.120 --> 1:47:10.720 was so steady and emotional because of the stakes that 1:47:11.000 --> 1:47:14.280 were in the room, and of the time that he 1:47:14.320 --> 1:47:16.479 had spent in that squad room and what he had 1:47:16.520 --> 1:47:19.960 given to all of us. And yet again this was 1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:23.960 another gift, like I'm giving you this monologue, this is 1:47:24.360 --> 1:47:26.439 this is what I do best, and here it is 1:47:26.479 --> 1:47:28.240 for you, and I'll never forget. 1:47:28.360 --> 1:47:31.200 I'll never forget that. That is how he chose to 1:47:31.200 --> 1:47:31.879 say goodbye. 1:47:33.320 --> 1:47:35.559 Can I ask how your last day was? 1:47:36.040 --> 1:47:39.640 I was emotional wreck, I was a mess. I was 1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:42.439 a mess. I mean, for me, it was it was 1:47:42.479 --> 1:47:43.400 a long time coming. 1:47:43.479 --> 1:47:46.760 I had already known that I was going to, you know, 1:47:47.200 --> 1:47:49.479 that a tomorrow is going to cycle out from you know, 1:47:49.640 --> 1:47:55.680 months before I had already sort of had conversations that tomorrow's. 1:47:55.000 --> 1:47:59.080 Time, you know, on the squad was was going to 1:47:59.120 --> 1:47:59.639 be limited. 1:48:01.160 --> 1:48:05.240 There was already you know, conversation probably a year before 1:48:05.600 --> 1:48:09.880 it actually happened, that you know, perhaps I was looking 1:48:09.920 --> 1:48:13.439 to maybe do something else and already we were already 1:48:13.479 --> 1:48:17.160 sort of towards the end of the amount that Amorrow 1:48:17.200 --> 1:48:20.920 could actually handle, uh in terms of, you know, the 1:48:21.000 --> 1:48:23.280 things that were being thrown at him. So it was, 1:48:23.520 --> 1:48:25.519 it was it was kind of a good marriage between 1:48:26.080 --> 1:48:28.960 you know, me having you know, played a police officer 1:48:29.120 --> 1:48:33.960 for now eleven seasons including Gold Case, uh, and wanting 1:48:34.000 --> 1:48:40.559 to potentially, you know, seek other challenges and. 1:48:38.880 --> 1:48:41.120 And also where the show was. 1:48:41.400 --> 1:48:47.760 So the emotion didn't come from uh, you know, this 1:48:48.000 --> 1:48:51.599 wasn't something that I chose. It came from I'm really 1:48:51.600 --> 1:48:54.519 going to miss these people. I'm really going to miss 1:48:54.680 --> 1:48:58.519 this crew. I'm going to miss this cast. I'm going 1:48:58.600 --> 1:48:59.800 to miss the writers. 1:49:00.400 --> 1:49:02.160 You know it. 1:49:02.160 --> 1:49:04.879 It was a moment in my life that I valued, 1:49:05.439 --> 1:49:10.120 and that transition out of you know, that world that 1:49:10.160 --> 1:49:12.120 I wasn't going to see them every single. 1:49:11.960 --> 1:49:16.839 Day was an emotional an emotional day. 1:49:17.479 --> 1:49:18.160 I'm sure. 1:49:19.000 --> 1:49:21.600 And then do you want to talk about I'm going 1:49:21.640 --> 1:49:23.080 to say it Union derays. 1:49:23.320 --> 1:49:25.439 Oh, let's go. Yeah, you said you said it wrong, 1:49:25.479 --> 1:49:27.360 but you tried, you tried really really hard. 1:49:27.760 --> 1:49:27.880 Uh. 1:49:28.680 --> 1:49:29.519 Yeah, no, you're right. 1:49:29.560 --> 1:49:35.439 There is a short film that I wrote, directed, uh 1:49:35.479 --> 1:49:40.000 and acted in and produced along with my wife Lily, 1:49:40.080 --> 1:49:41.880 who you know I begged to be a part of 1:49:42.000 --> 1:49:44.320 She's she's an actor. We met when we were in 1:49:44.360 --> 1:49:48.120 middle school and yeah, in junior high we met in an. 1:49:48.000 --> 1:49:51.240 Acting class of all places. I begged her. 1:49:52.200 --> 1:49:54.360 She turned me down like two or three times and 1:49:54.400 --> 1:49:58.599 then ultimately said yes, and uh, it's part of this 1:49:58.600 --> 1:49:59.320 this short film. 1:49:59.520 --> 1:50:01.120 The recept has been fantastic. 1:50:01.760 --> 1:50:05.639 Directing was something that I've was very interested in back 1:50:05.760 --> 1:50:09.000 even on SVU. It was something that I really wanted 1:50:09.040 --> 1:50:15.800 to delve into. Unfortunately, I was able to you know, 1:50:16.200 --> 1:50:19.960 start investigating that through the short, and then I subsequently 1:50:20.000 --> 1:50:21.600 directed to Mayan's episodes. 1:50:22.200 --> 1:50:25.400 Uh, fantastic to do that. 1:50:25.520 --> 1:50:28.000 I mean, the cast and the crew and you know 1:50:28.479 --> 1:50:33.160 elgend James, our showrunner, were just you know, there were 1:50:33.200 --> 1:50:36.240 a gift to work with. And so that that's kind 1:50:36.240 --> 1:50:39.360 of where started. Because I knew I was going to 1:50:39.439 --> 1:50:41.640 direct an episode of Minds, and I didn't want to 1:50:41.640 --> 1:50:45.800 show up to set having not directed something. So I 1:50:45.840 --> 1:50:48.720 wrote the short and we shot it about four or 1:50:48.760 --> 1:50:51.040 five months before I directed Mines. 1:50:51.800 --> 1:50:55.120 And I know de Res we probably can't watch yet, 1:50:55.200 --> 1:50:57.920 but Hotel Cocaine is the show you just did that's 1:50:57.920 --> 1:50:59.200 on MGM plus. 1:50:59.439 --> 1:51:03.680 That's Correcttel Cocaine nineteen seventy eight, Miami. 1:51:04.400 --> 1:51:08.519 Wow, I was. I was born and raised in Miami 1:51:08.600 --> 1:51:12.960 in the seventies. I do not remember a lot of it, 1:51:13.280 --> 1:51:14.439 but because I was so young. 1:51:14.800 --> 1:51:21.479 But the Mutiny Hotel and Club was the epicenter of 1:51:21.600 --> 1:51:25.759 Miami in the seventies. It's similar to saying Studio fifty 1:51:25.800 --> 1:51:26.800 four in New York. 1:51:27.000 --> 1:51:29.559 At the time. It was the. 1:51:30.560 --> 1:51:39.520 Dangerous sort of watering hole for politicians or superstars, celebrities, musicians, 1:51:39.960 --> 1:51:43.920 and the cocaine cowboys along with the Dea. So it 1:51:44.080 --> 1:51:50.840 was a rich broth of incredibly diverse characters. And I 1:51:50.920 --> 1:51:55.760 play Vermont Comte. Ermontcomte was an actual person. It was 1:51:55.760 --> 1:51:58.600 the father of Maurice Comte, who's an actor who I 1:51:58.640 --> 1:52:02.200 worked with on Mayans Oh stuff. 1:52:02.360 --> 1:52:02.559 Yeah. 1:52:02.560 --> 1:52:06.720 So Chris Broncoto, who is our showrunner, main writer, was 1:52:06.760 --> 1:52:10.000 the co creator of Narcos, and he worked with Maurice 1:52:10.000 --> 1:52:13.920 Conte on Narcos and Maurice told him the story about 1:52:13.960 --> 1:52:18.120 his father in this, you know, the epicenter of the 1:52:18.160 --> 1:52:21.880 cocaine wars in Miami of the nineteen seventies, and Chris 1:52:21.960 --> 1:52:25.799 was like, I think there's something there. The Hotel Cocaine 1:52:25.840 --> 1:52:32.200 is really kind of a unicorn in that it's incredibly 1:52:32.320 --> 1:52:39.479 dark and violent and sexy, but it's also hilarious and 1:52:39.880 --> 1:52:43.479 there's humor and it's funny, and you know, there's so 1:52:43.560 --> 1:52:46.120 many things happening at the same time, and the balance 1:52:46.840 --> 1:52:49.400 is precarious and challenging. 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:52.639 And that's one of the things, among many other things, that. 1:52:52.560 --> 1:52:56.800 I tipped my hat to Chris Broncato to really finding 1:52:56.840 --> 1:53:00.000 a way to tell a story that is so complicated, 1:53:00.120 --> 1:53:03.639 any complex and shifts from scene to scene. 1:53:04.200 --> 1:53:06.479 Well, I came up with a game, but I don't know, 1:53:06.560 --> 1:53:09.200 I don't know if it's cool yet. Okay, you don't 1:53:09.200 --> 1:53:11.720 have to, so I'm gonna just say things, and then 1:53:11.760 --> 1:53:16.080 you can choose between Kelly Iced Team, Marishka, Peter Scannabino, 1:53:16.240 --> 1:53:18.200 Dan Floriic Raoul or Belzer. 1:53:19.120 --> 1:53:21.040 Okay, so main main cast. 1:53:21.360 --> 1:53:24.639 Who's the most like their character probably Marishka. 1:53:25.720 --> 1:53:30.960 I mean I once said that the only person who 1:53:32.000 --> 1:53:38.240 overshadows or outshines Olivia Benson is Murska Hargita, and I'm 1:53:38.280 --> 1:53:39.000 not beautiful. 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:43.040 Most likely to be late to work. You don't have 1:53:43.120 --> 1:53:44.360 to throw anybody out of the bus. 1:53:44.439 --> 1:53:47.880 That's sorry, Yeah, I'm not answering that question. I only 1:53:47.920 --> 1:53:50.840 look though, if you. 1:53:50.760 --> 1:53:53.200 Could go on vacation with any of these people, who 1:53:53.200 --> 1:53:54.479 would be the number one person? 1:53:55.120 --> 1:53:55.360 You know? 1:53:55.560 --> 1:54:02.519 When I when Tomorrow was done on the show, we 1:54:02.600 --> 1:54:07.599 had a weekend up in the Hamptons where the entire 1:54:07.680 --> 1:54:11.559 cast came out and we had moment together. 1:54:12.439 --> 1:54:14.840 So my answer to that is all of them, because we. 1:54:14.840 --> 1:54:19.679 Had such a last it was that was really sort 1:54:19.680 --> 1:54:23.320 of my last sort of you know, goodbye to the show. 1:54:23.760 --> 1:54:29.880 Was was spending a weekend with this fantastic cast and 1:54:29.920 --> 1:54:33.600 being able to really share how much they meant to me. Uh, 1:54:33.640 --> 1:54:35.560 and for them to be able to share things with me. 1:54:36.640 --> 1:54:39.960 And the answer to your question is all of them, 1:54:40.080 --> 1:54:43.040 because they're all They're all incredibly giving and special people. 1:54:44.360 --> 1:54:46.960 I really like that you guys are in the Hamptons together. 1:54:47.280 --> 1:54:47.800 That's great. 1:54:48.320 --> 1:54:53.120 This like wen't have Honestly, there's like so much more 1:54:53.160 --> 1:54:53.720 we could talk to. 1:54:53.720 --> 1:54:54.280 You about here. 1:54:55.520 --> 1:54:56.840 Thank you, thank you for having me. 1:54:57.320 --> 1:54:59.800 And I appreciate, like I said, I appreciate being able 1:54:59.840 --> 1:55:03.200 to visit Tomorrow's one eighty and to revisit some of 1:55:03.240 --> 1:55:06.240 these fantastic memories. Uh, to be able to talk about 1:55:06.320 --> 1:55:10.280 Richard Belzer, because I haven't spoken about him publicly since 1:55:10.320 --> 1:55:14.800 his passing. Uh, so please excuse my emotion, but it 1:55:14.960 --> 1:55:18.400 was it was It was very cool, uh to to 1:55:18.480 --> 1:55:21.040 be able to talk about these people who that I 1:55:21.080 --> 1:55:24.200 love so much, uh, talk about this character that I 1:55:24.240 --> 1:55:29.320 love so much, uh, and to really uh one of 1:55:29.360 --> 1:55:32.360 the things I really wanted to do today was to 1:55:33.080 --> 1:55:39.240 thank the SVU diehards for their support throughout uh my 1:55:39.360 --> 1:55:41.840 time on the show and my time since I left 1:55:41.880 --> 1:55:45.080 the show. It has been uh. 1:55:45.000 --> 1:55:52.280 You know, fundamental encouragement coming from them. Uh. And I 1:55:52.320 --> 1:55:54.760 hope that they enjoy Hotel Cocaine, yeah. 1:55:54.680 --> 1:55:58.440 Uh, and and that they understand that while we're not 1:55:59.640 --> 1:56:04.360 uh it is far from SVU, that that same gray 1:56:04.440 --> 1:56:10.480 area of character navigating that with Roman Conte is. 1:56:10.520 --> 1:56:12.120 A similar world. 1:56:12.160 --> 1:56:16.200 It's a similar pathway, and they might recognize some things 1:56:16.240 --> 1:56:21.800 about Tomorrow in Roman and uh and in the writing, 1:56:22.360 --> 1:56:26.480 in the precarious position that Tomorrow was put in throughout 1:56:26.480 --> 1:56:29.600 episodes of SVVU that Roman Conte is now put in 1:56:30.320 --> 1:56:31.520 throughout episodes. 1:56:31.120 --> 1:56:32.120 Of Hotel Cocaine. 1:56:32.360 --> 1:56:35.480 And thank you for having me on your show not 1:56:35.520 --> 1:56:39.800 only to talk about moments past but also moments present. 1:56:40.040 --> 1:56:43.440 So thank you, Yeah, thank you, thank you so much 1:56:43.480 --> 1:56:46.440 for taking the time. And you'll see that the diehards, 1:56:46.480 --> 1:56:51.320 you're a treat for them, because on Instagram you're just 1:56:51.320 --> 1:56:53.400 going to see them all freaking out that that we 1:56:53.480 --> 1:56:54.520 got to talk to you, So. 1:56:55.200 --> 1:56:56.240 It will be a fun little treat. 1:56:56.360 --> 1:56:57.160 I thank you for that. 1:57:01.880 --> 1:57:03.440 I mean, I bet they knew. 1:57:03.440 --> 1:57:06.160 If we're doing, you know, amorrow's one to eighty. Who 1:57:06.160 --> 1:57:08.840 are we gonna have? The deli clerk like, yeah, we're 1:57:08.880 --> 1:57:11.320 gonna have We're gonna have amorrow for this one. 1:57:11.840 --> 1:57:13.040 And he watched. 1:57:12.640 --> 1:57:16.360 It and such a good memory and stories and a 1:57:16.480 --> 1:57:20.640 very sentimental guy. Yeah, I loved you know, no remembering 1:57:20.680 --> 1:57:22.800 the moments of auditions and all of that. And I 1:57:22.800 --> 1:57:25.360 feel not to make it about me, but I feel 1:57:25.560 --> 1:57:29.040 like that's my vibe. I want to hold on to 1:57:29.160 --> 1:57:32.840 these details and every moment is so good and I 1:57:33.040 --> 1:57:35.120 he's I'm glad he has a good career. 1:57:35.280 --> 1:57:35.800 He loves it. 1:57:35.840 --> 1:57:37.920 And I was really happy that he also opened up 1:57:37.920 --> 1:57:40.240 to us about Belzer and how much they had such 1:57:40.280 --> 1:57:41.520 a special relationship. 1:57:41.680 --> 1:57:43.640 And I mean. 1:57:45.080 --> 1:57:45.880 It was just he. 1:57:45.800 --> 1:57:48.040 Said he hasn't talked about it publicly since it happened, 1:57:48.080 --> 1:57:49.920 So I was like, very I felt honored that he 1:57:49.920 --> 1:57:51.160 would open up to us about that. 1:57:51.160 --> 1:57:57.760 That was so nice, and it just seems, you know, 1:57:57.800 --> 1:57:59.640 it's a bummer we didn't get to meet him. I 1:57:59.720 --> 1:58:03.480 guess with Belzer, you know, like that's that is something 1:58:03.720 --> 1:58:05.440 I think about that with Joan Rivers a lot. 1:58:05.560 --> 1:58:07.240 Like I always just was like, I'm going to meet 1:58:07.320 --> 1:58:07.960 Joan Rivers. 1:58:08.280 --> 1:58:10.000 I used to used to be like I'm definitely gonna 1:58:10.000 --> 1:58:12.560 meet Robin Williams one day, and like I just never will. 1:58:12.600 --> 1:58:15.720 And it's so sad. But and that's how I feel 1:58:15.760 --> 1:58:16.440 with Belser. 1:58:16.440 --> 1:58:18.560 And it's good to know that he touched the people 1:58:18.600 --> 1:58:19.720 that were closest to. 1:58:19.760 --> 1:58:20.400 Him so much. 1:58:21.200 --> 1:58:24.400 Yeah, he just seemed like such a real guy, like 1:58:24.840 --> 1:58:26.520 a good hurt like a mensch. 1:58:26.800 --> 1:58:28.440 You know. I think he would bail us out of 1:58:28.520 --> 1:58:31.240 jail if he could, And. 1:58:31.200 --> 1:58:32.920 I would happily open up a bar with him in 1:58:32.960 --> 1:58:34.360 Baltimore after he retires. 1:58:34.880 --> 1:58:37.520 Well, now that I love Baltimore, I get why. I 1:58:37.600 --> 1:58:39.120 get it now. 1:58:39.240 --> 1:58:41.440 One weekend of Baltimore and I go, I'm like, Munch, 1:58:41.600 --> 1:58:45.000 I'm in there with you, Like I understand why you 1:58:45.080 --> 1:58:45.760 wanted to do that. 1:58:46.000 --> 1:58:50.920 I am fully on board. But and it seems too. 1:58:52.360 --> 1:58:56.840 What I learned from Danny Pino, what I got from 1:58:56.880 --> 1:59:00.800 it is they communicate about their character and build it 1:59:00.840 --> 1:59:04.120 together and it's not just like here do this, yeah, 1:59:04.160 --> 1:59:06.880 you know, like it seems like he has says and 1:59:06.920 --> 1:59:09.600 then they kind of not capitalize what's the word, like 1:59:09.800 --> 1:59:14.040 use their real relationships and how they interacted within the 1:59:14.080 --> 1:59:15.320 show out you know. 1:59:15.440 --> 1:59:18.800 It's nice yeah, yeah, because I'm sure, like I don't know, 1:59:18.840 --> 1:59:22.440 I feel like if people don't get along in real life, 1:59:22.480 --> 1:59:25.760 they're not going to always put them in situations like 1:59:26.000 --> 1:59:28.600 always of all the characters like that, not always, I 1:59:28.640 --> 1:59:29.000 don't think. 1:59:29.200 --> 1:59:30.720 Wasn't that the famous thing about Moonlighting? 1:59:31.640 --> 1:59:35.480 Like yeah, Bruce who's as Willis and Sybil Shepherd, Yeah, 1:59:35.520 --> 1:59:36.560 they hated each other. 1:59:37.680 --> 1:59:39.520 Hated each other well for man and woman. 1:59:39.600 --> 1:59:41.000 I feel like that can kind of add a little 1:59:41.000 --> 1:59:42.000 bit of sexual attension. 1:59:44.640 --> 1:59:47.920 But wait, there's other famous ones that is interesting, Like 1:59:47.960 --> 1:59:50.120 when I hear that people hated each other, I don't 1:59:50.160 --> 1:59:50.960 know how they could do it. 1:59:51.040 --> 1:59:54.000 Those I think of like the the I don't even 1:59:54.040 --> 1:59:55.840 watch the show, but on The Good Wife, what didn't 1:59:55.840 --> 1:59:58.440 like Juliana Margalize and that other actress like didn't like 1:59:58.440 --> 2:00:01.280 each other? But then eventually like she left. I bet 2:00:01.320 --> 2:00:03.760 it also depends on like how high up the person. 2:00:03.880 --> 2:00:06.000 It's like, if Juliana Murgles does want to show with someone, 2:00:06.040 --> 2:00:07.880 she's number one, like she can do whatever she wants. 2:00:08.200 --> 2:00:10.680 But I guess what I'm saying is like this is 2:00:10.720 --> 2:00:13.000 like the reverse where I feel like they capitalize like 2:00:13.040 --> 2:00:15.720 you said on the like the good vibes between them 2:00:15.720 --> 2:00:17.600 and the like friendship that they had. 2:00:17.800 --> 2:00:20.040 So I just googled quickly, so and I did read 2:00:20.040 --> 2:00:23.320 this odd, but I guess earlier. But Charlie's Throne and 2:00:23.360 --> 2:00:25.920 Tom Hardy did not get along on Mad Max, like 2:00:26.040 --> 2:00:31.040 hated each other. Ooh well, I'm sure. Oh yeah, Patrick 2:00:31.080 --> 2:00:36.120 Swayze Jennifer Gray hated each other. Really yeah, I put 2:00:36.160 --> 2:00:39.280 in famous coasters who totally hated each other, and like 2:00:39.400 --> 2:00:44.000 I remember those articles and then I'm really curious about 2:00:44.000 --> 2:00:48.560 this clear Danes Leonardo DiCaprio, because that's like a full 2:00:48.600 --> 2:00:49.480 ass love story. 2:00:50.560 --> 2:00:52.240 Yeah, but it makes it It says like he likes 2:00:52.280 --> 2:00:54.240 to goof off. She did, but he doesn't. I don't know. 2:00:54.320 --> 2:00:58.960 And Julia Robber whatever, like I uh, I don't. I 2:00:59.000 --> 2:01:01.800 don't know if I have the capacity to do that, 2:01:02.040 --> 2:01:02.760 to fake it. 2:01:03.720 --> 2:01:04.840 That's the job of an actor. 2:01:04.920 --> 2:01:07.280 So I'm very impressed with these people, and like they're 2:01:07.280 --> 2:01:11.120 also getting paid millions, so it's it's like different. 2:01:11.280 --> 2:01:12.800 I just it seems. 2:01:12.440 --> 2:01:16.040 Really hard, Yeah, to hate someone and have to do 2:01:16.160 --> 2:01:20.720 like intense See, I don't know. I can't imagine in 2:01:20.720 --> 2:01:22.680 a movie at least that's like a few months or 2:01:22.880 --> 2:01:25.760 you're out, maybe you have to do press, but a 2:01:25.840 --> 2:01:27.960 show like all the time. 2:01:28.120 --> 2:01:32.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, okay, let's get to a post 2:01:32.440 --> 2:01:36.120 mortem of this episode. Obviously, I don't love any cops 2:01:36.120 --> 2:01:38.520 shooting blindly down a hallway, and I feel. 2:01:38.320 --> 2:01:39.880 I think that we let's talk about that. 2:01:39.920 --> 2:01:41.760 I'm just a cop from Orange is the New Black. 2:01:41.800 --> 2:01:44.000 Shit really should have gotten a lot more heat than 2:01:44.000 --> 2:01:44.640 she got. 2:01:44.440 --> 2:01:47.000 In this episode. But she played the game. It's all 2:01:47.040 --> 2:01:49.960 about the game. She was willing to say. He did that. 2:01:50.120 --> 2:01:52.520 I'm not talking fuck his ass, you know, like that's 2:01:52.600 --> 2:01:53.440 basically it. 2:01:54.360 --> 2:01:56.680 And I did realize I just said fuck is ass. 2:01:57.200 --> 2:02:01.760 Oh, while we're talking about fucking cop random cop stuff. 2:02:02.720 --> 2:02:10.760 Apparently there is this trial happening in Massachusetts. Okay, Karen Reid, 2:02:10.840 --> 2:02:15.040 but it's spelled Aria d. It like it's this whole 2:02:15.080 --> 2:02:18.839 fucking thing where this cop got killed at a party, 2:02:19.520 --> 2:02:22.360 and they're basically all these cops were at this party 2:02:22.400 --> 2:02:26.880 and they're framing this woman saying she did it, and 2:02:26.920 --> 2:02:29.120 like Netflix is there like shooting it right now, but 2:02:29.120 --> 2:02:32.440 it's on trial right now. All this happened in like Canton, Massachusetts. 2:02:32.920 --> 2:02:35.360 It's like I was just talking to all these girls 2:02:35.400 --> 2:02:37.680 at book club last night and they were all obsessed. 2:02:37.680 --> 2:02:39.560 They were like, you haven't heard about Karen Reid, like 2:02:39.760 --> 2:02:41.880 you have a crime podcast. I was like, I'm sorry, 2:02:41.920 --> 2:02:43.760 Like this hasn't popped up to me like this. This 2:02:43.840 --> 2:02:45.960 only took place in twenty twenty two, so it's like 2:02:46.000 --> 2:02:48.800 pretty recent. And now the trial is happening right now 2:02:49.120 --> 2:02:52.000 and they're basically finding out that between Canton police and 2:02:52.080 --> 2:02:56.400 Boston police there's all this corruption and that they're fully 2:02:56.440 --> 2:02:57.280 framing this woman. 2:02:57.800 --> 2:03:01.280 So if it's all coming out, that's good. Hopefully that's that. 2:03:01.280 --> 2:03:04.880 Ye, But there's an FBI investigation about the cop, but 2:03:04.920 --> 2:03:07.160 the jurors don't know about it. Like the jurors have 2:03:07.200 --> 2:03:08.840 been I think they might be sequestered, and they've been 2:03:08.840 --> 2:03:11.680 instructed like not to read anything. So like the jurors 2:03:11.760 --> 2:03:13.040 don't know that there's like an FBI. 2:03:13.240 --> 2:03:15.920 Why can't the defense bring it in like that must 2:03:15.960 --> 2:03:17.840 be like I hope she has a good lawyer that 2:03:17.960 --> 2:03:19.760 like that has to be able to be brought in. 2:03:20.520 --> 2:03:21.400 Yeah, I don't know. 2:03:21.520 --> 2:03:23.440 I literally I'm going off of what a bunch of 2:03:23.480 --> 2:03:26.800 girls frantically screamed at me yesterday over Rose, So like 2:03:26.840 --> 2:03:28.879 I really have to look at it up at myself. 2:03:29.200 --> 2:03:32.000 But I'm sure some of our listeners are following along 2:03:32.040 --> 2:03:36.000 with this, and I'm like obsessed. I'm gonna like read 2:03:36.000 --> 2:03:37.480 about it as soon as we get off with this 2:03:37.520 --> 2:03:40.680 because like why, why did why did its coworkers kill it? 2:03:40.720 --> 2:03:40.880 Like what? 2:03:41.400 --> 2:03:44.600 Because what my friends were saying is they were like 2:03:45.280 --> 2:03:48.080 their theory is that like a teen at the house 2:03:48.120 --> 2:03:51.400 maybe is responsible for him, Like everybody was wasted. They 2:03:51.480 --> 2:03:54.480 think there was like a fight and that he got 2:03:54.640 --> 2:03:57.440 he had dog bites on him. The dead body, Like 2:03:57.760 --> 2:04:00.720 they think maybe someone else, like a teen is responsible 2:04:00.880 --> 2:04:04.240 for it. And so they're all she, the woman they're accusing, 2:04:04.360 --> 2:04:07.120 is the dead person's ex wife. So they're all like 2:04:07.240 --> 2:04:09.800 just framing her because they want to save the skin 2:04:09.880 --> 2:04:12.120 of this kid. I guess, but that's like a theory. 2:04:12.160 --> 2:04:14.000 I don't even know if that's the real thing, but 2:04:14.240 --> 2:04:18.200 it seems pretty like articles I'm seeing are framed or 2:04:18.200 --> 2:04:20.680 at fault like that. I guess the cases with the 2:04:20.760 --> 2:04:23.320 jury now like they're deciding, but everybody seems to think 2:04:23.360 --> 2:04:27.480 that the jury's decision right now, yes, as of yesterday, 2:04:27.520 --> 2:04:30.880 fifteen hours ago, so like, And we're recording this like 2:04:30.920 --> 2:04:32.280 a few days before it comes out. So by the 2:04:32.280 --> 2:04:34.000 ten this episode comes out, maybe there will be a 2:04:34.080 --> 2:04:36.960 verdict already. I don't know how many days it usually takes, 2:04:37.000 --> 2:04:39.840 but it's it sounds like a really crazy case, like, 2:04:40.120 --> 2:04:41.840 so I wanted you to know about it and all 2:04:41.880 --> 2:04:44.160 of our listeners to sort of check in. And I'm 2:04:44.160 --> 2:04:46.839 sure we're going to get inside scoop from our Canton 2:04:46.960 --> 2:04:52.080 Mass environs listeners. But yeah, you're right, the cops are 2:04:52.080 --> 2:04:57.160 playing the fucking games and uh, it's no good. But 2:04:57.440 --> 2:04:59.080 let me go into what would Sister Peg do? Because 2:04:59.120 --> 2:05:00.480 this kind of leads to what we're we're talking about 2:05:00.520 --> 2:05:02.280 with what would Sister Peg Do? This is our weekly 2:05:02.320 --> 2:05:05.160 segment where we direct you guys towards an organization, a 2:05:05.240 --> 2:05:08.440 blog post, I love just say, blog post, an article, 2:05:08.840 --> 2:05:11.680 a you know, a podcast episode, something to give you 2:05:11.720 --> 2:05:13.560 more information about what we talk about because we only 2:05:13.600 --> 2:05:15.920 have so much time, and this week we wanted to 2:05:15.960 --> 2:05:19.280 point you to the National Police Accountability Project. This group 2:05:19.320 --> 2:05:22.720 is quote dedicated to holding law enforcement accountable for misconduct 2:05:22.760 --> 2:05:25.320 in our communities. It is a project of the National 2:05:25.400 --> 2:05:27.760 Lawyer's Guild and their mission is to affect change in 2:05:27.760 --> 2:05:29.640 the flawed legal system and to fight to put an 2:05:29.760 --> 2:05:32.920 end to police brutality and all forms. So if you 2:05:32.960 --> 2:05:38.880 want more information, go to NLG dash NPAP. So that's 2:05:39.240 --> 2:05:41.560 NLG is like the National Lawyers League and then NPAP 2:05:41.640 --> 2:05:44.680 is National Police Accountability Project dot org. And obviously that's 2:05:44.680 --> 2:05:46.680 a lot of letters. So it will be in our 2:05:46.720 --> 2:05:49.120 story as usual the day this comes out and saved 2:05:49.360 --> 2:05:53.440 forever in our WWSPD highlight on our Instagram page which 2:05:53.480 --> 2:05:55.280 is thats Messed Up pod And if you're not following, 2:05:55.360 --> 2:05:56.320 please give it a follow. 2:05:57.120 --> 2:05:59.920 Thank you so much for that, And not as an 2:06:00.000 --> 2:06:03.960 important legal news. But I did watch the Scooter Bron 2:06:04.080 --> 2:06:08.880 Taylor Swift HBO two part kind of expose that like 2:06:08.920 --> 2:06:11.800 a doc kind like one hour is Taylor's Side in 2:06:11.840 --> 2:06:16.520 one hour is Scooter's Side? Oh and the Scooter one 2:06:16.560 --> 2:06:18.960 is the side is really interesting because it's all these 2:06:19.040 --> 2:06:22.560 lawyers and business people being like it's a business. Sound deal, 2:06:22.640 --> 2:06:26.480 it's not personal, it's business, and it's like yaya, yeah, 2:06:26.520 --> 2:06:29.920 we don't like the business. Yeah, that's it's like these 2:06:30.000 --> 2:06:32.840 lawyers being like, no laws were broken. It's like, yeah, 2:06:32.880 --> 2:06:35.280 you know, we know that, Like we understand someone else 2:06:35.360 --> 2:06:37.920 owned her music and then sold it to someone she hated, 2:06:38.080 --> 2:06:40.960 like and she's a petty bitch and a good business woman, 2:06:41.080 --> 2:06:45.080 so yeah, no we get that. But that was their 2:06:45.120 --> 2:06:49.360 whole defense. It's like this was business. It's it's so 2:06:50.000 --> 2:06:54.480 we know who's they're not anyways. Retro retro everyone is 2:06:54.600 --> 2:06:58.280 next week next week's episode retro sounds more fun than 2:06:58.320 --> 2:07:00.839 it is Season ten. No, it's it's a great episode. 2:07:00.840 --> 2:07:03.440 It's just like retro reminds me of like bell Bottom. Yeah, 2:07:03.480 --> 2:07:04.480 it's not about fashion. 2:07:04.960 --> 2:07:10.120 Yeah, Season ten episode five. Also, I mean today's strands. 2:07:10.160 --> 2:07:10.960 Did you already do it? 2:07:11.560 --> 2:07:11.640 No? 2:07:11.760 --> 2:07:14.080 I haven't. Okay, I got it open, I got my 2:07:14.120 --> 2:07:15.040 word o open right here. 2:07:16.080 --> 2:07:18.000 I gotta do it. It has to do whatever. I 2:07:18.160 --> 2:07:20.360 don't want to ruin that. It doesn't matter to any 2:07:20.400 --> 2:07:23.000 of you follow us on the internet. 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