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Speaker 2: Just incredible to be able to just go in and

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Speaker 2: touch Joe Burrow, wh he was laying down for you

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Speaker 2: like that, to get that right.

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Speaker 3: Well, hold on, Burro, hold on. Well he would have

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Speaker 3: got his face knocked off by a lineman in front

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Speaker 3: of him if he didn't go down. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't Brett Farvask.

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Speaker 3: But it was it. It wasn't.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't. I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 5: Could he have tried could he have tried more to

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Speaker 5: elude the sack or even thrown it in complete somewhere?

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Speaker 2: He did it the very next time Rush, Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 2: like it was the most elusive He looked all game.

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Speaker 5: I'll say this, watching it live, watching it live with

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Speaker 5: a habit, I swear to god, it felt scripted. It

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Speaker 5: did look scripted, so slogan Ryan's calling the game, and

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Speaker 5: of course he circles them right before the snap. And

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Speaker 5: then I'm looking as he's circling like, oh, there's no

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Speaker 5: running back to the side. That's weird or tight end

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Speaker 5: or anyone else near him. I'm like, I guess I'm

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Speaker 5: just gonna leave the left tackle one on wall with him.

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Speaker 5: But I think it was first down, right, first or second?

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Speaker 5: I wasn't third down, That's.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: It's like I get vividly remember this because this was

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Speaker 3: I just he got off that ball fast as hell.

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Speaker 5: Bro Yeah, but here, here's the reality is Orlando Brown

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Speaker 5: wasn't in that bad of a position. It's just the

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Speaker 5: ability to kind of bend and bend around that edge

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Speaker 5: pick up that dollar. But once he bend, it was

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Speaker 5: almost like, look Orlando Brown to give up, because the

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Speaker 5: very next time he was rushing, he got a good

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Speaker 5: shot on him. But the Burl like kind of stepped

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Speaker 5: up was just like I'm going down. I was like,

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Speaker 5: oh okay, I think it was nice. It felt it

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Speaker 5: felt scripted with the way it all happened. It was

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Speaker 5: like he gets circled, he's one on one here, It's like,

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Speaker 5: here's your opportunity, Miles, see if you can get to him,

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Speaker 5: and sure enough, no help left tackle on the island.

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Speaker 5: Burrows kind of sitting back there, steps up a little

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Speaker 5: bit like, didn't really give.

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Speaker 4: This inough to get rid of it. I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it was scripted in conspiracy theories why not.

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Speaker 5: But I'm sure, but I'm sure there are people like

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Speaker 5: Jonas and people who want to make that case.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he would have got hit, he would have got sacked, regardless,

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Speaker 3: he would have got sacked.

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Speaker 5: I think he could have gotten rid of it quickly

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Speaker 5: like he did in literally like two the next two plays.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, see, now that's you could all to me.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you could always try to get rid

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Speaker 3: of the ball to avoid a sack.

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Speaker 4: There you go. So why don't more quarterbacks do that?

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Speaker 3: Because they don't. Then you want to help the guy out,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think he was trying to help

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Speaker 3: him out. Listen, hey, throw your bone. You play for

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Speaker 3: the Browns. Let me throw your bone here. I'll lay down.

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Speaker 4: Thrown back and forth there, huh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So he did go down like very like you know.

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Speaker 2: But then so it's either the next play or the

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Speaker 2: play after he scrambles. It looked like Miles Garret.

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Speaker 3: I think the broadcaster was like a shot.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he's trying to create some distance in

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Speaker 2: this in this sack record, and Joe Burrow looked as

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Speaker 2: a loose as as I've ever seen him, just navigating

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, you probably could have done that, you know,

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Speaker 3: think it's fair. He had a defender in his face,

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Speaker 6: There were some people who were upset. You seem to

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Speaker 7: That I never knew you could let the whole team

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Speaker 7: get on your field. That's like, that's like me catching

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Speaker 7: my tenth pass and the whole team run on the field.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna get flagged.

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Speaker 8: You can't.

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Speaker 7: You can't do that, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 6: I mean, you guys are trying to go win the game.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to hurry up too.

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Speaker 7: We couldn't even hurry up. The rests was looking at

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Speaker 7: it was I don't know what was going on on

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Speaker 7: that play.

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Speaker 3: No? I mean, do you interview the refs?

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Speaker 6: Apparently, Zach said the refs told him after the fact

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Speaker 6: that they had decided they were going to stop the game,

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Speaker 6: but never informed the coaching step stop the game to

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Speaker 6: let them celebrate the moment.

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Speaker 7: Well, they better stop the game when I do something

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Speaker 7: in my back end. That's all I got to say.

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Speaker 3: About that one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's a hell of a player and competitor,

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Speaker 5: but it's also just the fact that he doesn't mind.

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Speaker 8: He's great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you stopped when when milestones are hit, you stop.

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Speaker 2: I love what he He tries to compare his tenth

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Speaker 2: catch to Miles Garrett breaking the sack record.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're gonna stop.

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Speaker 8: The game.

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Speaker 4: A couple of interesting things.

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Speaker 5: I believe he did it in four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 5: seven snaps, which, if you compare to Strayhan and TJ.

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Speaker 5: It's like maybe one hundred and fifty minimum snaps less

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Speaker 4: However, I like to.

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Speaker 5: Go through the history here, and it's hard not to

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Speaker 5: acknowledge Reggie White had twenty one sacks in twelve games

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Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty seven. Like, as much as we want

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Speaker 5: to act like this is a great feat, there should

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Speaker 5: at twenty one in twelve games. Think about that for

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Speaker 5: a second. And by the way, like teams didn't throw

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just I feel like that accomplishment twenty one and

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Speaker 5: twelve games is something that will never see again. It's

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Speaker 5: incredible what Miles Garrett has done, because again, if you

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Speaker 5: compare it to the past guys who had the record,

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Speaker 5: he didn't even less snaps. But still, I don't think

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Speaker 3: It's so funny you say that, because that's what even

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Speaker 3: though I love him and he's a Penn Stater, but

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Speaker 3: that's what I was saying about Saquan when he was

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Speaker 3: about to break Eric Dickerson's record more games, and when

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Speaker 3: Eric Dickerson broke O J. Simpsons, there's more games like

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Speaker 3: it was taking more games. I don't know how that

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Speaker 3: all works.

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Speaker 4: Do we have the sound from straight hand? You see

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Speaker 4: what he said?

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Speaker 3: Do we have that? So we got the straight hand sound?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 3: We were efforting, Okay, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean I can summarize it or we can just wait

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Speaker 5: But either way, Michael Straighthan, that's some interesting comments about it.

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Speaker 3: What was the summary of it? What did he say?

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Speaker 5: He said, Miles Garrett has the record for seventeen games.

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Speaker 5: He goes, I have it for sixteen.

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Speaker 3: You do have it? Yeah, let's hear it.

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Speaker 4: I mean I hold a record for sixteen game season.

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Speaker 4: They record.

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Speaker 2: You can't compare records from twelve game season to sixteen

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Speaker 2: and seventeen gamesn't work.

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Speaker 4: But I look at it like.

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Speaker 3: This, See, yes you can. I hate to say it,

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Speaker 3: but yes you you you have to because it's the season.

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Speaker 3: It's the regular season. He's right. But if that's what

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Speaker 3: you're gonna do, then don't don't have it built up

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Speaker 3: as it's a record setting season. Don't don't have it

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Speaker 3: set up that way and for what it's worth. And

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Speaker 3: for what it's worth, Michael Strahan would have been held

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Speaker 3: by the same standard, so he wouldn't hold a record either,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's kind of like

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Speaker 3: you got it, like just just accept it, like you

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Speaker 3: had the record. Now you will be second on or

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Speaker 3: third on the record.

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Speaker 2: I just I wish I wish the Browns could second.

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Speaker 2: I wish the Browns could have a little integrity. I

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Speaker 2: wish they could do it the honest way like the

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Speaker 2: the Bears still don't have a four thousand yard passer,

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Speaker 2: you know, so why can't you do that? Like why

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Speaker 4: Down on the field in the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Not for long? But you know it's uh.

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Speaker 2: It was the first thing I thought was it seemed

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Speaker 2: like you could have gotten away from that. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: like I don't I don't want to be uh. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to urinate all over Miles Garrett's record, but

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Speaker 2: just the felt a little faulty there, you know, seemed.

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Speaker 3: Like there was a there was an opportunity. But that's

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Speaker 3: sad that you feel that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, who cares? I mean, it's well, do

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Speaker 2: you care enough to say it? I mean, it's in

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Speaker 2: the record books. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why can't you just let them be in

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Speaker 3: the record books. Why can't it be he broke the

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Speaker 3: take it a step further. The moment, just like I

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Speaker 3: said last year, was that last year? Yeah, the moment,

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Speaker 3: the moment sakwon Barkley if they would have played him

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Speaker 3: in that last game and he broke that record should

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Speaker 3: have been the moment you knew that the most Valuable

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Speaker 3: Player race was over. I feel like Miles Garrett, it

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Speaker 3: sho hands down. If the record is as prestigious as

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Speaker 3: we make it to be, which the names connected to

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Speaker 3: it are as prestigious as it gets. They're all Hall

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Speaker 3: of famers. It only happens every so often. Now it's

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Speaker 3: happened more frequently because TJ Watt and then now you know,

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Speaker 3: but TJ didn't break it, TJ tied it. This man

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Speaker 3: broke the sack record in a single season. Why is

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Speaker 3: it not ends down? He is the envy. He will

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Speaker 3: be the most valuable player in the national four games,

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Speaker 3: three And I thought about that, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know that, that's what people are going to say.

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Speaker 3: I know that their sensibility to that, but it still

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Speaker 3: does not take away from what the accomplishment represents. And

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Speaker 3: that's the defensive player of the year, which is that's yeah,

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Speaker 3: Can you stop that? Okay? And it was number ninety

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Speaker 3: Like I said, you could say that about any play,

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Speaker 5: Go watching it, Go watch two plays from there and

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Speaker 4: That's what happened, man, That's what South announcer presented it.

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Speaker 3: You know, shouts out the mouths Garrett, he should be

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Speaker 2: Here's the something that's not an exciting day for a

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Speaker 2: you guys were ware, but it's called Black Monday, all right,

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Speaker 5: We didn't need it to be literal, though, Yes, as

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Speaker 3: You say that every single time we mentioned Black Friday.

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Speaker 4: He was black?

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Speaker 3: He's black? I mean, we didn't have to go literal

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, can I see this in the defense of

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Speaker 4: They technically did it on a Sunday. Geez, yeah, I

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Speaker 5: with Indy.

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Speaker 3: I just think the pressure is on to be an

440
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 3: impactful coach immediately and not just historically speaking. That just

441
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: never was the case and now it is and that

442
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: is what to me drives the narrative of all of

443
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 3: these teams. And if a coach comes in and can't

444
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: have more of an impact than what Raheem Morris has

445
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: done this year, or what a Pete Carroll, which is

446
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 3: just a mind blower. But I mean he's getting up there,

447
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: but why come back if you're not going to come

448
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Speaker 3: back with the idea and the intentions of being exceptional.

449
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: And then you do see a guy like Kyle Shanahan

450
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: who's in the situation, in the circumstances that he's in.

451
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Speaker 3: He hasn't been a person that's using injuries as a

452
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Speaker 3: reason to say, ah, well we're not that good or

453
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: you know, we could cash it in this this year

454
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: because you know, we got guys that are out. Our

455
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 3: one receiver, air Quotes is not even here, you know,

456
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 3: doesn't even want to be here, Like you know, our

457
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Speaker 3: starting quarterback he's going out. Like There's so many different

458
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Speaker 3: things that took place in San fran that would have

459
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Speaker 3: gave any coach a real opportunity to create a rebuttal

460
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Speaker 3: to anyone who would have, you know, criticisms towards not

461
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: having a great level of success, and yet he still

462
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 3: has managed to put together a brilliant season, probably his

463
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Speaker 3: best coaching jobs as a professional, you know coach. So

464
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Speaker 3: I just think the standards are are maybe elevated at

465
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Speaker 3: this point. I think that expectations has changed. Generally, they

466
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: give you, you know, a year to get in, see what

467
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: you got, a year to start, and then that next year.

468
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Speaker 3: If you don't make a very very now I don't

469
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Speaker 3: want to say drastic, but a very very definitive step

470
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Speaker 3: forward in year three, then that's where you know, you

471
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: can lose your job and it's a rap. But that's

472
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Speaker 3: not how it's working now. And I think that that's,

473
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Speaker 3: you know, that's a part of it. So when you

474
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Speaker 3: think about going to Atlanta, I think the question you

475
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Speaker 3: have to ask yourself is when these judgments are being made,

476
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Speaker 3: are you making those judgments off of how good the

477
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Speaker 3: personnel is for the team. You do have a premiere

478
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: running back. I'm not sold all the way on Pinis.

479
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: I think he's a fine quarterback. Ken he'd be that

480
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: kind of guy that a new coach comes in and

481
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 3: you can get the type of results that you need

482
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Speaker 3: for him to be a franchise caliber, the franchise guy

483
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Speaker 3: for the team. I don't know, are you able to

484
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Speaker 3: rejuvenate Kirk Cousins to be a little bit more than

485
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Speaker 3: what he's been in his career. I don't know, But

486
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Speaker 3: I do know when you look at these other coaches

487
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Speaker 3: that have gone. You know, Chicago had a quarterback Jacksonville.

488
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Speaker 3: Although I mean you could kind of debate it a

489
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Speaker 3: little bit, but I don't think you debate saying that

490
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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence had the pedigree and had the ability to

491
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Speaker 3: be a franchise guy. You know, they brought in Jared

492
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Speaker 3: goth from from the Rams. I mean, he was really good,

493
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Speaker 3: he just couldn't get over that last little hump. But

494
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Speaker 3: I think that these coaches have had quarterbacks, you know,

495
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton, he brought in the guy that people maybe

496
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Speaker 3: didn't put on that level but has turned out to

497
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: be a really, really good f for Denver. So I

498
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Speaker 3: just think that the goalposts have moved a little bit,

499
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Speaker 3: and you better make sure that you're going somewhere that

500
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Speaker 3: has a quarterback in these days, in this day and age,

501
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Speaker 3: Otherwise you're going to be hitting towards the scrap heap

502
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Speaker 3: of his coaches before long.

503
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Speaker 2: I mean, Arthur Blank is eighty three. I think, yeah,

504
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's not really a whole lot of time

505
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: to you know, go through development and let's grow this

506
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: thing slowly and let's it just I don't know, man,

507
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: I I don't know what the because there's some reports

508
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: out there that you know, they've already identified their guy.

509
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Speaker 2: They're going to go through the search and obviously you know,

510
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Speaker 2: dot the i's across the t's, but that they already

511
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Speaker 2: have an idea of who they would want and the

512
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Speaker 2: feeling would be an offensive minded coach. And I don't

513
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Speaker 2: know who that like, whether it's Mike McCarthy or or

514
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Speaker 2: who the hell knows. It's out there, but it just

515
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Speaker 2: it feels like this was a move that was made

516
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: where they're really rushing the decision. It's obviously a winnable division.

517
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Speaker 2: I just don't know. I'm kind of with LeVar. I

518
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: don't know that that I see them as well. You know,

519
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: if they could just find the right guy to lead

520
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Speaker 2: the charge, they're going to be a team that's a

521
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Speaker 2: threat in the NFC. I don't know, it just feels

522
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Speaker 2: like there's a lot of unanswered questions with them.

523
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Speaker 5: Well, they will be if they playing the NFC South,

524
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Speaker 5: I mean if eight and nine wins it, you know,

525
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Speaker 5: that's yeah, that's a team that to me, they're always

526
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Speaker 5: gonna be a threat.

527
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Speaker 4: It comes out of health and then you know, building

528
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Speaker 4: this roster.

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Speaker 5: I think the interesting thing about this is, you know

530
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Speaker 5: what went into the decision when they drafted Penix and

531
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Speaker 5: they signed Cousins and how much did that play a

532
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Speaker 5: role in what's happening, you know, last night or today,

533
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Speaker 5: because that was one of those oh like that caught

534
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Speaker 5: everyone off guard. And if you recall the war room,

535
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Speaker 5: it appeared that there was a converse conversations being had

536
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Speaker 5: with Arthur Blank that maybe he even he was kept

537
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Speaker 5: in the dark about their decision to sign Cousins and

538
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Speaker 5: then take Penix, and that seemed to catch.

539
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Speaker 4: A lot of people off guard.

540
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Speaker 5: However, if you remember building up to that time, the

541
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Speaker 5: quarterback spot was the thing they were trying to figure out,

542
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: and usually it doesn't work out quite the way. The

543
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 5: Falcons tried to play this out, where you sign a

544
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Speaker 5: veteran guy to that sort of deal and you draft

545
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Speaker 5: his replacement in the same year or same offseason.

546
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Speaker 4: Like typically it's the veterans there.

547
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Speaker 5: You see how that goes for a year, maybe two,

548
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 5: and then you draft the guys gonna come in and

549
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 5: learn from them from a year, and you move on.

550
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Speaker 4: But that wasn't how this all worked out.

551
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Speaker 5: And I think, you know, because of how that worked

552
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Speaker 5: and maybe how they feel about some of the things

553
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 5: that have transferred over the past two years, maybe they

554
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 5: feel like it just it wasn't going to work. They

555
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 5: needed to move on have a clean slate. There's a

556
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 5: lot of Falcons fans who feel like it needs to

557
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: go higher than that. You know, just from calling doing

558
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 5: some of their games and listening to some of the

559
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Speaker 5: feedback you.

560
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Speaker 4: Get from people.

561
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 5: There's some people who feel like there's other people who

562
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: are in control above the head coach and general manager.

563
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Speaker 5: And that's maybe why you bring in a Matt Ryan

564
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 5: so he can be more of a voice of reason

565
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: Arthur Blank as compared to some of the other voices

566
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Speaker 5: that have been speaking to Arthur Blank trying to stay

567
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: in that position of control. So I think there's a

568
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Speaker 5: number of factors that most likely went into this and

569
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Speaker 5: bringing an offensive mind to work with Michael Pennix that

570
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Speaker 5: that's fine. I mean, Kevin Stefanski, if he gets fired

571
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Speaker 5: from the Browns, he has to be at the top

572
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Speaker 5: of that list. I would imagine if you look at

573
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Speaker 5: what the Seahawks have been doing with Clint Kubiak, you know,

574
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Speaker 5: Sam Donold, that group the number one seed in the NFC, Like,

575
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Speaker 5: I would imagine they would get you know, he would

576
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Speaker 5: get an interview. He might be someone you know, going

577
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Speaker 5: back through Matt Ryan's tenure as a player, I believe

578
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 5: he was an assistant with like with Shanahan when he

579
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Speaker 5: was There's the OC was Mike Lafleur, and he's the

580
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: OC out with the Los Angeles Rams. And we know

581
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Speaker 5: obviously how a lot of coaches that come from that

582
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: coaching tree, whether It'shanahan or McVeigh, they get a lot

583
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: of credit for how they go about and what they're

584
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 5: trying to build. So that's it'll be interesting to see

585
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: if it's any of those names you mentioned. Mike McCarthy,

586
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 5: he would make a lot of sense, a world of experience,

587
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: offensive mind. He's worked with young quarterbacks and had success

588
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 5: with young quarterbacks, So that would be another name that

589
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: you would think would bring in a way of doing things.

590
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: But again, I feel like, as much as we want

591
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 5: to make this about anything other than the head coach,

592
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: like this team needs to stay healthy. If they can

593
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 5: stay healthy, they're the most talented roster in the NFC South,

594
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Speaker 5: and I think you're just seeing defensively, like the tip

595
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: of what they're capable of with all these young players

596
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Speaker 5: who are kind of rounding into form.

597
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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

598
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599
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600
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Speaker 2: He's Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports Sports

601
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Speaker 2: HQ analyst, and you can get him on X if

602
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: you want some of that smoke at Prisco CBS.

603
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Speaker 3: He's our smooth operator, Pete. Good morning, Hi Pete.

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Speaker 8: What's going on? Guys?

605
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Speaker 3: Hi doing?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

607
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Speaker 4: Mayor Jacksonville?

608
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

609
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Speaker 3: How was your holidays?

610
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Speaker 8: It was a good holiday? Good? You know, look, everybody

611
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 8: loves it. Today's the day when you know, we all

612
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 8: worked during the holiday and everybody's miserable chudging back into work.

613
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 8: That's what today is.

614
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Well that's kind of how often.

615
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Speaker 5: Well we kind of thought it was Black Monday, where

616
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: a lot of people getting laid off. If you thought

617
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Speaker 5: they were going into work they're not.

618
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Speaker 8: Well, it hasn't happened yet. Well, I mean, Raheem Marris

619
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Speaker 8: got it last night, as you guys know. But I

620
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Speaker 8: don't think he'll be the last one. I think we'll

621
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Speaker 8: see another couple maybe, Yeah, who's good. Well, I mean, look,

622
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Speaker 8: what's going to happen with Stefanski. That's going to be

623
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Speaker 8: an interesting situation because because I think it's Stefanski, you know,

624
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Speaker 8: mutually wants to get out of there, or if they

625
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Speaker 8: want to get out of there, he's going to get

626
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Speaker 8: a job right away. I think you get the Giants

627
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 8: job or have a real shot to get it. I

628
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 8: think you have a real shot to get it. But

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Speaker 8: I think that's one to keep an eye on. I

630
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 8: think Gannon's gonna make it through. I think Pete Carroll's

631
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 8: probably gonna get fired. So there's gonna be, you know,

632
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 8: some situations where you'll see some guys fired today.

633
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: Is there such thing as a bad job? Taking a

634
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: bad job in the league, Like I almost feel like

635
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: the Raiders is a bad job? Like is that still attractive?

636
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: Like is there going to be a guy? I was like, yep,

637
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Speaker 3: I'll take it. I'm gonna try to make it, make

638
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: it work, try to fix it.

639
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Speaker 8: Well, they do have the number one overall pick LeVar.

640
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 8: I mean, you know that makes it a lot more

641
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 8: attractive to guys because you're gonna get a quarterback. So

642
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 8: I think there's the attraction in that job. And is

643
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 8: there a bad job. No, there's only thirty two of

644
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 8: them in the NFL. Are some better than others probably?

645
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 8: I mean you look at like the Giants job. I

646
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 8: think if you look at the Giant situation right now,

647
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 8: if you believe in Jackson Dart, and there are some

648
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 8: people out there who don't, but I think he's got

649
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 8: he's done enough to get another chance to be that

650
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 8: guy and show he is the long term answer. And

651
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 8: they got a lot of young talent on the defensive

652
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Speaker 8: side of the ball, and you get Neighbors back next year,

653
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 8: you get Scatterbrew back next year. I mean, I think

654
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 8: that job is attractive on the surface. Now, whether you

655
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Speaker 8: go in there and do something with Jackson Dart and

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Speaker 8: make him the long term answer that's up to the coach,

657
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Speaker 8: but I definitely think that job is attractive.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Pete, Todd Bowles, what happens? What do you think

659
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Speaker 2: should happen?

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Speaker 8: I mean they gave him a contract to concension, which

661
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 8: when you talk to people, at one point they were

662
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Speaker 8: talking about it, trying to keep Liam Cohne there in

663
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Speaker 8: large part because they thought he was the next coach

664
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Speaker 8: in waiting, and he would have. It would have been

665
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Speaker 8: an easy decision. It would have been if Liam Cohne

666
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 8: is there right now as the offensive coordinator, Todd Bowles

667
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 8: has probably fired and Liam Cohne is probably elevated to

668
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 8: the head coach. But it's they Instead, they extended him,

669
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Speaker 8: and now you're in a situation where you have to

670
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Speaker 8: make a decision. I think he's going to come back.

671
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's necessarily what the fans and

672
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 8: people in Tampa want to happen, but I do think

673
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 8: he's going to come back. I think the injury factor

674
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 8: might save him because they have had so many injuries

675
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Speaker 8: over the course of the season.

676
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Speaker 5: Pete, is there any coach out there, because we've read

677
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Speaker 5: some reports that may not be safe after the wildcard round,

678
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Speaker 5: depending on.

679
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Speaker 4: The result.

680
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Speaker 8: You mean, like Sean McDermott.

681
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 5: Well, Sean McDermott's won. I saw a report about Matt

682
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 5: and Lafleur that was interesting. And I sometimes wonder too,

683
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 5: like if a coach came open, or a coach gets fired,

684
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 5: if that wouldn't potentially open up another one, Like, for example,

685
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: the Colts have already come out and said, hey, Shane

686
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: Stike and Chris Ballad, are you know they're safe for

687
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 5: next year?

688
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Speaker 4: But one if a desirable coach comes open, I mean, if.

689
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Speaker 8: They wanted John McDermot or Matt la fire, Yeah, I

690
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 8: don't think they would do that because I mean that's

691
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 8: kind of tacky to do. I mean, I'm not saying

692
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 8: it's not beyond the realm of impossibility, but I don't

693
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 8: think that would happen. But yeah, I mean, look at

694
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Speaker 8: I don't think Laflour's gonna get fired anyways. I think

695
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 8: all the injuries he's had to deal with and everything

696
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 8: that he's gone through this year, I don't think he's

697
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 8: getting fired. Now. McDermott, that's an interesting one because right now,

698
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 8: what is everybody saying? Everybody everybody's saying that the AFC

699
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 8: wildcard playoffs are so wide open now. I mean the

700
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 8: AFC playoffs are so wide open now, with no Lamar Jackson,

701
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 8: no Joe Burrow, no Patrick Mahomes. If Josh Allen can't

702
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 8: win the title this year, then he's never going to

703
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 8: win it. And so I think that puts even more

704
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 8: pressure on Sean McDermott to not only win the wild

705
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 8: card game this week, but to advance more and maybe

706
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Speaker 8: even get to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Pete, which matchup are you most interested in? What's the

708
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Speaker 3: most intriguing one going into this first round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: I want to see the rematch of the Packers and

710
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 8: the Bears. I mean, if you're the Packers, you should

711
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 8: have beat them twice, you probably could have won the division,

712
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Speaker 8: and now you're at their place as a wildcard team

713
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Speaker 8: after the on side kick botching cost you a chance

714
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 8: to win that game the last time. So to me,

715
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Speaker 8: that's that's the intriguing one. I want to see. How

716
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 8: and I thought the Packers would be a super Bowl

717
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 8: team this year. I think the injuries have hurt them

718
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 8: in a big way, but I still think they're capable

719
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 8: of getting on a run going into Chicago and winning

720
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 8: that game. I don't think that's beyond the realm of possibility.

721
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Speaker 8: And the other thing is, is anybody beat not beatable

722
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Speaker 8: in any of the comperences. I mean, you look at

723
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 8: it on paper, who's good? And I said, I said,

724
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 8: how long have I been saying that guy? Since Week four?

725
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 8: Is anybody any damn good? No, they're not. Nobody is.

726
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Speaker 8: And that's why it's going to be great theater and

727
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 8: so wide open. I mean, Seattle great defense. Do you

728
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 8: believe in that offense? I mean, that's that's major questions

729
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 8: on that offensive side of the ball. Forty nine ers,

730
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Speaker 8: great offense, bad defense. The other night to efense played

731
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 8: better than the offense did nothing because of the injuries.

732
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Speaker 8: No Trent Williams, no, no pearceoll. Then you go to

733
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Speaker 8: the Eagles. They haven't played offense, a good offensive football

734
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 8: all year, and they're good on defense. The Bears defense stinks.

735
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Speaker 8: Offense is pretty good. So you go across the board.

736
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Speaker 8: Every team has major flaws, every one of them. And

737
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 8: that's why it's going to be so wide open.

738
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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnists for CBS Sports, CBS Sports

739
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Speaker 2: HQ analysts, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio so

740
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Speaker 2: I do want to ask you, because look, I said

741
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Speaker 2: it a little while back that I was tired of

742
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: the Jaguars.

743
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: I didn't believe in them. They were underwhelming. Yet again,

744
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: just make.

745
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Speaker 2: Sure they don't get to the playoffs, and then all

746
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the last six to eight weeks they

747
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: look like they're the best team in the league. How

748
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: surprised are you that Jacksonville is an underdog against those

749
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen at home this weekend.

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Speaker 8: I'm not surprised they're an underdog because of the Josh

751
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Speaker 8: Allen factor. And you know, I've said that the first

752
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 8: matchup you could get the first round would be the

753
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 8: play Josh Allen in the Buffalo Bills. I just don't

754
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 8: think that you want to put that guy on the

755
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 8: field at a playoffs game and have to beat him.

756
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 8: And so that's why I think the osmakers are looking

757
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 8: at it from that standpoint. Now, Jacksonville has been phenomenal.

758
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 8: I mean, they won the eight games in a row,

759
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 8: averaging nineteen points a game in scoring margin, which is

760
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Speaker 8: one of the best scoring margins on an eight game

761
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 8: winning streak I think since two thousand or something like that.

762
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Speaker 8: So they have been dominant in this win streak, and

763
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Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence has put himself He's not gonna win it,

764
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 8: but he's put himself into the mix of the MVP conversation,

765
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Speaker 8: which is amazing when you consider And by the way,

766
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 8: I was no different than you guys earlier this season

767
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 8: criticizing him first play going playing very well, and now

768
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, he's playing at a high, high level,

769
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Speaker 8: and that team is capable of going out in the

770
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Speaker 8: first round or going on a run and getting to

771
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Speaker 8: the super Bowl. Just like every other team in the AFC.

772
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Speaker 8: It's so damn wide open. It's going to be so

773
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 8: hard to predict the playoffs. And if you ask me

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Speaker 8: right now, is Jacksonville the best team in terms of

775
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 8: what they have? The answer to that question is no.

776
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 8: But unlike all the other teams, I think across the board,

777
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 8: they don't have a great area, but they don't have

778
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 8: a bad area either, And so I think that you know,

779
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 8: there's the number one run defense in the league. Nobody's

780
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 8: rushed for Steven No, not one running back is game

781
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 8: seventy five yards on them all year, which is incredible.

782
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 8: And then the other side of the ball, they can

783
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Speaker 8: score points. Whether are they dynamic on offense? No? Are

784
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 8: they great on defense? No? But they're good on both

785
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 8: in both areas where you look at every other team

786
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 8: and you can you know, the Texans their offense, oh boy,

787
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 8: you don't know what you're going to get from that group.

788
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 8: The Bills on defense, you don't know what you're going

789
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 8: to get from that group. So I think that gives

790
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 8: them a chance to maybe go on a little bit

791
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Speaker 8: of a run.

792
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Speaker 5: Pete, is this the greatest turnaround in the NFL history

793
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 5: from one season to another?

794
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Speaker 8: Like?

795
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 5: Could you could you give the Jaguars that sort of

796
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: credit for what they've done this season being four to

797
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: thirteen last year?

798
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it. And

799
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 8: and they were I mean the coaching man and you know, Brady,

800
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 8: you played in the league. You've said it all along.

801
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 8: You always preach that. And you know, get a guy

802
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 8: in a situation where he gets a good coach, he's

803
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 8: going to change the way you play. And Trevor Lawrence

804
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 8: has changed the way he plays because the coaching is

805
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 8: good and the offense isn't you know, throwing fourteen hundred

806
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 8: balls to the sidelines all the time like it was

807
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 8: under Doug Peterson. And I think the coaching on the

808
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 8: offensive line matters. I mean, those guys have made big

809
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 8: strides up front. It's actually a good offensive line now

810
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 8: and it was not a year ago. And now they

811
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 8: made some additions, but you know, a bunch of those

812
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 8: guys have been back and so I think it does matter,

813
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 8: and guys have elevated their games. So yeah, it's an

814
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 8: amazing turnaround. And I think Liam Cone deserves all the

815
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 8: credit in the world for doing that because the coaching

816
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 8: across the board and they're good on offense. Yudinsky's a

817
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 8: good coach, and then you go to defense Campanell he's

818
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 8: going to be a head coach. I mean, I don't

819
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 8: think there's any questions about that.

820
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: And so did you criticize the high in the first place,

821
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 5: Like weren't you the ones saying.

822
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: Like do all like making all that stuff about it.

823
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 8: I never criticized the High.

824
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: I thought it was dude, I thought you.

825
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: I thought I saw something that you're doing on CBS

826
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 5: Sports HQ where you're doing the impression of.

827
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: Him, Like what is that? What is that you know

828
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 4: that for?

829
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Speaker 8: You know, I can make fun of an impression, don't

830
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 8: get me wrong. And you know what I made. I

831
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 8: made fun of the impression in front of him, and

832
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 8: I told him, you know what he should do, He

833
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 8: should embrace it, you know, have fun with it. He

834
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 8: he didn't like it initially. I think now he's gotten

835
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 8: pasted it and he embraced it.

836
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Speaker 3: Pete, do you have a lock for a one and

837
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: done first round? Added air? Like bone?

838
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Speaker 8: Carolina? Carolina?

839
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: It's too easy? All right?

840
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 8: Yeah? Well is it is? That the home They beat

841
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 8: the Rams last time they played them, so, I mean,

842
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 8: but yeah, Carolina's one done?

843
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: Okay. I was curious.

844
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Speaker 2: I don't know why you had to take this approach

845
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 2: in the middle of what was a fun game to watch.

846
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Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about the the forty nine ers

847
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: and the Seahawks on a Saturday night, and everyone's really

848
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: excited about it, and everyone's really excited about the performance

849
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: from Seattle, and then Pee chimes in on social media

850
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: Seahawks scoring thirteen on that defense is pretty bad.

851
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: I mean, can't you just let.

852
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: Them enjoy their moment getting the one seed and winning

853
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: that division?

854
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 8: Like?

855
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: Do we have to take such a negative spin on

856
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: this whole thing?

857
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: With the Seahawks.

858
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 8: Well, what happened was is I said, it's hard to

859
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 8: believe that these two are the plans for the one seed.

860
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Speaker 8: That's what my comment was. And the Seattle fans came

861
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 8: roaring at me and said, oh my god, the defense

862
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 8: is great. You don't know what you're talking about. And

863
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 8: I said, great, the defense is fantastic, But scoring thirteen

864
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 8: points on that defense is not a good look for Seattle,

865
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Speaker 8: and that's where that tweet came from. So, yeah, look,

866
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 8: did I rain on the parade a little bit, absolutely,

867
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Speaker 8: But the bottom line is the bottom line is you

868
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 8: should be concerned about that offense. That's forty nine or

869
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 8: defense gave up what thirty eight points to the week

870
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Speaker 8: before to the Bears, and the week before that they

871
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 8: made Philip Rivers actually look competent at times on defense.

872
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 8: So they've been awful on that side of the ball,

873
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 8: and Seattle scored thirteen points. And so that that's why

874
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 8: I sent that out to him.

875
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 5: You really don't have any problem running on anyone's parade,

876
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: do you, Buddy.

877
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 8: I'ma I'm gonna throw a turd in the punch bowl

878
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 8: guy kind of brandy.

879
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: That's horrible.

880
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: Hey, Pete, if you had a Do you have an

881
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 4: MVP vote?

882
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 8: Yes?

883
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 5: Oh shoot, see we asked Albert Breer, he has yet

884
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 5: one too.

885
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 4: I'll just ask.

886
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: This, in making your decision, what matters to you most

887
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 5: and who you're going.

888
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 4: To vote for.

889
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 8: I will say this in this and by the way,

890
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 8: I'm having a real tough time with it. I haven't

891
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 8: turned it in yet. And I will say this. I

892
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 8: don't like any of the talk out there of people saying, oh, well,

893
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 8: they might just give Stafford one because of his you know,

894
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 8: he's at the end of his career, and Drake may

895
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 8: can win one down the road.

896
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: All right, so vote for Drake May.

897
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 8: All right, That's not That's not what I said.

898
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it sounds like your vote may Well

899
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: damn sureing a defensive guy you mentioned. I'll say that

900
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 3: that's true.

901
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: That's true.

902
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: Why why do you guys only vote for for offensive guys?

903
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 8: Pete like, well, okay, okay, LeVar, Let's just say you

904
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 8: wanted to vote for defensive guys, give me.

905
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 3: Your guy, Miles Garrett.

906
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, because they're gonna, god, what are they gonna do

907
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 8: next week in the playoffs? A They're gonna have a

908
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 8: good week, Pete.

909
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: You do realize, you do realize, you do realize that

910
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: the Most Valuable Player award is won during the regular season,

911
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: and it's your personal it's your performance that dictates how

912
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: you're viewed. LaVar, you should have said beat a vance

913
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: so you can fat shave him again. That's funny.

914
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 8: No, but LeVar, how could how could you be an

915
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 8: m VP of a team that's stunk?

916
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Because your stat line is I made that. I made

917
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: the argument point earlier. If if somebody broke the single

918
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: season passing record but their team stunk, would you still

919
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: vote for him to be the m v P of

920
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: the league.

921
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 8: No, No, you would not.

922
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: Yes you would, Pete.

923
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, can I can I?

924
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: Yes?

925
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: You would?

926
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: Can I present this to you in a different way, Pete? Pete?

927
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: Can I present this to you in a different way

928
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: than Levar's presenting.

929
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 8: It out way out there and plan it? Uh?

930
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: Whatever, Well, it's called sensibility. If you if you, if.

931
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 4: You took away.

932
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: Crazy again, Oh gosh, your touch.

933
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 5: Pete, If if you, Pete, if you took away the

934
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 5: premium that you and other voters put on the quarterback position.

935
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: Who would be the best singular player in the league.

936
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 8: Oh, I mean, if you're asking me who the best

937
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 8: player in the league is this year, that's what I'm

938
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 8: asking you. I would probably say Miles Garrett.

939
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I would say b John Robinson. But Miles Garrett

940
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 3: had the best statistical and category year of any player

941
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 3: in in the least. In fact, the only two that

942
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: that have done what he's done are both well ones

943
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame and one will be in.

944
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 8: One and either one sniffed an MVP.

945
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: Right, which it the point of me asking the question

946
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: is why are y'all so biased towards offensive players when

947
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: y'all say it's the most valuable player for the National

948
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: Football League.

949
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 8: Nobody's biased to the offensive players. It relates to Miles Garretty.

950
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 8: But look at his team's record.

951
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: No, you're biased. You guys are biased towards offensive players. Pete,

952
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: do you as voters are tremendously one sided, very narrow minded.

953
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 8: I will say it's the bias comes when you're biased

954
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 8: to the quarterback edition. I'll give you that, there's no question.

955
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: About that one way. More biased towards the quarterback's position.

956
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 3: But you're biased towards the offense. It's not like, oh, oh,

957
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: like it was a close one between a defender and

958
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: and an offensive guy. It's like generally that never that's

959
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: never comes into play. It's like, yeah, okay, we'll talk

960
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: about uh for defensive player, like stay in your lane.

961
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: It just seems strange to me that you guys give

962
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: no type of real attention to defenders as it applies

963
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: to being the best player in the league. Like it's

964
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: weird because we are the best players in the league

965
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: pretty much every year.

966
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 8: MVP isn't the best player. That's not what it is.

967
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean that it's the offensive player.

968
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 8: How could you possibly sit there and say somebody or

969
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 8: anybody from the Cleveland Browns should be an MVP with.

970
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: The record they have because Miles Garrett's most he's most

971
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: valuable as a player because of his stat line, and.

972
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 8: You took if you took Miles Garrett off that team

973
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 8: and he didn't play how many teams.

974
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: I understand that criteria, and I listen again, I I

975
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: debated with myself and think that, but if you break

976
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: a historical record, and that is a historical record, like,

977
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: there's not going to be very many people that can

978
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: get to twenty three sacks, no matter even if they're

979
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: they're increasing the amount of games. That's a very, very

980
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: very tall task for somebody to get to that many

981
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: sacks during the course of a season. For him to

982
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: hit that milestone in this season should equate him to

983
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: being the most dominant player and performance wise during the

984
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: course of this season. And I just stay I live

985
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: in that MVP.

986
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 8: It doesn't make you the MVP. It's a different award.

987
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 8: I get it. De the Player of the Year, You're crazy.

988
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So who's the most valuable to their team? Give

989
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: me a good example of who's most valuable to their team?

990
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 8: Are always the most valuable?

991
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: Okay? So there you go. So there you go. You're biased.

992
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: You're biased by the way you would have been happy

993
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: back in the day, Laarn Stiller one, I know that.

994
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 8: And by the way, one other thing, if you're really

995
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 8: want to look at the sack total, he didn't break

996
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 8: the record Jones at Deacon Jones at twenty.

997
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: Six and yeah, they hadn't the phrase yet. He created

998
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: the sack I understand.

999
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 8: So he had he had.

1000
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: Well, look and how many games does that end?

1001
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 8: Fourteen?

1002
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 5: So we were just talking about Reggie White nineteen eighty

1003
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 5: seven and Pete I know you you remember this well

1004
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 5: because you're a historian of the game. How ridiculous was

1005
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 5: that twelve games, twenty one sacks.

1006
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 8: It's incredible. I mean, look, there's been Bubba Baker had

1007
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 8: what twenty three and for the Lions back in the day.

1008
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 8: I mean, there's been guys who've had the sack numbers,

1009
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 8: but you know they didn't count it as an official

1010
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 8: sack back in the day. Sat back in the day.

1011
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 8: So I'm not going to take away from anything Miles

1012
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 8: Garrett done. He's the best defensive player in the league.

1013
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 8: There's no question about the dynamic player, dynamic force, and

1014
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 8: you have to count for him in every play. But

1015
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 8: there's Miles Garrett wouldn't tell you he's the MVP of

1016
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 8: the bar.

1017
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: Come on, I don't buy that. Yeah he might, I

1018
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: don't know that. Yeah, I don't buy that.

1019
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 8: Yeah. After all, he did say that the Steelers were

1020
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 8: focused on stopping him last week. They were they were,

1021
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 8: oh yeah, they were more. They were more focused on

1022
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 8: stopping him than actually winning the game that would have

1023
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 8: got him into the playoffs where they would have made left.

1024
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: I think the best point came from Q saying that

1025
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: that's what they should always be thinking with that type

1026
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: of player he is, which is very true. You should

1027
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: always be hand Yeah, it does go hand in hand.

1028
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: So it's not like when the defense is out on

1029
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 5: the field to worry about Miles Garrett. I mean, it's

1030
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: the whole thing was ridiculous.

1031
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: But they were certainly they were certainly getting rid of

1032
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: the ball way quicker way earlier because they did not

1033
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: want him to get that.

1034
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 5: Here, here's my argument of that is, has anyone watched

1035
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 5: the Steelers offense this year, Like Rogers doesn't want to

1036
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 5: get touched, He gets rid of the ball in like

1037
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: two seconds to and a half seconds every snap.

1038
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, kept.

1039
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 8: Last night because the Ravens, except for last night because

1040
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 8: the Ravens couldn't sniff sniff a pass rush they're so bad.

1041
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 5: Well, there's there's that too, even though in trust me,

1042
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 5: he was still getting rid of the ball quick, even

1043
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 5: though Collinsworth, you know, was just it was just enamored

1044
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 5: with all of it. Pete, it's twenty twenty six. Now

1045
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 5: do you have New Year's resolutions? Are you the type

1046
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 5: of guy that does that.

1047
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 4: Sort of thing?

1048
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 8: No?

1049
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 5: No, So what does that say about? What does that

1050
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 5: say about people? That do make your's resolutions ease.

1051
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 8: Pete, Well, here's a here's one New Year's thing that

1052
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 8: you know this Brady is crazy. Like you see somebody

1053
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 8: on January twenty second, it's like happy New Year, And

1054
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 8: I'm like, that was about twenty one days ago. You're late,

1055
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, I don't get that. There there

1056
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 8: should be a statue of altation for somebody to say

1057
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 8: happy news.

1058
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: How many days do you get? Larry David says, like

1059
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: January fourth or fifth?

1060
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 8: Right, I think it's the next day over January second.

1061
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Pete. Have you and Pat tros ever

1062
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 3: had a conversation? Pete, have y'all ever liked have y'all

1063
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: ever wrapped to each other, like like online, like on

1064
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: live radio or whatever? Why cause y'all should? Man, I

1065
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: would that would be such an interesting listen to hear

1066
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: you too, like interact with one And why.

1067
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 8: Does he have a lot of the same viewpoints I have?

1068
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's the same viewpoints. I just

1069
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: think that I think you're both have like curmudgeons syndrome

1070
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: as curmudgeon Is.

1071
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 8: That curmudget is that wat you're kind.

1072
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 3: Of a curmudgeon?

1073
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 8: Bro, is that being a curmudgeon saying you don't want

1074
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 8: to hear happy New Year at January twenty second?

1075
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: I just think it's all of it all together. It

1076
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: kind of comes like equates to like, you're a grumpy

1077
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: old man.

1078
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 8: Bro. I'm Brady'll tell you I'm a happy guy.

1079
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: Hey, Peter, Peter, not grumpy, Pete. I didn't want to

1080
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 3: ask you, you're kind of grumpy dude, Pete.

1081
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: I did want to ask you, is there any there

1082
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: is there some sort of beef going on with you

1083
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: and Clarence Hill Uh oh, Like you know, he was

1084
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: pointing out that Sam Levitt transferred to Kentucky, and he

1085
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: made sure to give you a shout out. He said,

1086
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 2: quote he traded Scottsdale for Lexington, the money must be good,

1087
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: and his Arizona state broke. Pete Prisco rolling over in

1088
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: his grave, oh w to which you responded to my

1089
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: grave alive and well, Grandpa, I mean, what's going on here?

1090
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 4: Pete?

1091
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 8: Well, you know, look, Clarence, me and Clarence. I love Clarence.

1092
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 8: We always get in there, we have we get into

1093
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 8: little arguments and stuff. But the thing is is, Clarence

1094
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 8: I didn't even somebody sent that to me, I would

1095
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 8: never seen it because he didn't tag me in it,

1096
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 8: so I would have never saw it. So of course

1097
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 8: Jamie Eisenberg and Brady Nose stirs the pot and sends

1098
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 8: it to me. So I replied to it. And you know,

1099
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 8: he always I always go up. Clarence puts up pictures

1100
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 8: all the time of his daughters, you know, and he say, look,

1101
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 8: my daughter's graduating from here or whatever. And I'm like, you, liar,

1102
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 8: those are your granddaughters. Those aren't your daughters. You're seventy

1103
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 8: years old. What are you talking about? You know?

1104
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: He did choose Lexington over over ten P. I mean,

1105
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: like you, I mean, I don't know how that lands

1106
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: with you, but you know what.

1107
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 8: Here's how it lands with me. See you see you later.

1108
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 8: You left too many dance clean possets. Anyways.

1109
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just gonna say, let's actually break down the player.

1110
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 5: What is lexing then giving getting there? In Sam Levitt?

1111
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 8: Here here's the play, ready out to do it? Okay,

1112
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 8: the sun Devils are in third and seven for the

1113
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 8: Sun devels back to throw Sam Levitt. Oh, look he

1114
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 8: puts his foot the ground and he runs out of there.

1115
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 8: And scrambles away for four yards. That's what he's got

1116
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 8: at Sam Levin, so you can have you can have him. Look,

1117
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 8: they made him one of the highest paid guys in NIL.

1118
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 8: Went good enough for him. They made him a player

1119
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 8: after he transferred from Michigan State. That wasn't good enough

1120
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 8: for you. See, is Sam go play in the SEC?

1121
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 8: Go play at Kentucky or where. I don't even think

1122
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 8: he's finished making his decision yet, as he's still up

1123
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 8: in the air. I think I think there's an LSU

1124
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 8: is now in the equation. But you know what, I

1125
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 8: went and watched a little bit of the quarterback they

1126
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 8: got from Kentucky and that transferred in there. That kid's

1127
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 8: got some talent now, big strong, physical kid. I'm more

1128
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 8: enamor with him than I was with Sam Levitt. Like

1129
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 8: I say, when every one of them leaves, see ya, seeya,

1130
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 8: see ya se ya. Get out. Peter.

1131
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: On that note, though Sam level was a guy that

1132
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 5: people had talked about after how they played in that

1133
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 5: college football playoff run two years ago, you might be

1134
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 5: a first round pick after this year. Do you ever

1135
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 5: when you hear that stuff, you ever just like calmed down,

1136
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: like obviously a lots changed over the course of just

1137
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 5: one college football season.

1138
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 4: But do you always take it with kind of a

1139
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: grain of salt.

1140
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, because remember, this was going to be the greatest,

1141
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 8: one of the great quarterback classes that we've seen, and

1142
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 8: it's kind of become just an average quarterback class. So

1143
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 8: in next year they're talking about it's going to be

1144
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 8: a great quarterback class. We don't know. I mean, do

1145
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 8: guys develop, you know that? And I thought Levitt after

1146
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 8: that year when they when they went to the playoffs,

1147
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 8: was going to develop into something. And he didn't. He

1148
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 8: didn't develop last year. He wasn't as good. And I

1149
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 8: said that even when he was on the field, I

1150
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 8: didn't think before we even knew he was leaving, I

1151
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 8: didn't think he was as good last year. And so

1152
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 8: it takes You know, by the way arch Manning was

1153
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 8: going to be the slam dunk number one pick if

1154
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 8: he came out, well, it wouldn't have been that way now.

1155
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 8: But I will tell you this, Arch Manning that we've

1156
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 8: seen down in the last four or five games is

1157
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 8: going to end up being a number one pick next year.

1158
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 8: So it takes time, it takes development.

1159
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 5: Yes, he will be We'll see. Yes, he will be

1160
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 5: Go watch CJ Car. CJ Car takes another step when

1161
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 5: he did this year.

1162
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: He'll be there one overall.

1163
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: Pick there it is.

1164
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 4: It's go watch the table.

1165
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 8: I'm with you. I'm with you, Brady. I love the kid.

1166
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 8: I think the kids really good.

1167
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: But there it is.

1168
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: There it is, Pete.

1169
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 8: I got you's got to be the Golden Domer.

1170
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 4: Go back and watch it, go back and watch it.

1171
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: I'll put his tape up versus anyone.

1172
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 8: They should got in over Alabama. And that was what

1173
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 8: happening in the in the rose balls, just proof of that.

1174
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 8: That was Notre Dame should have been in the head

1175
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 8: of Alabama, no doubt about it.

1176
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: Pete always fun. Get him on ex at Prisco CBS.

1178
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: He's Pete the NFL calling CBS Sports, CBS Sports.

1179
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: Good buddy, all right, Pete, enjoy.

1180
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 8: The week, Happy New Year, guys.

1181
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: There he is.