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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Noria

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Speaker 1: with you. Doctor Michael Salo with US Pioneer and the

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Speaker 1: Development of exo Politics. He is the author of Exposing

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Speaker 1: US Government Policies on Extraterrestrial Life and Exopolitics Political Implications

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Speaker 1: of the extraterrestrial Presence. He was an assistant professor in

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Speaker 1: the School of International Service of the American University. He

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Speaker 1: has a PhD in Government from the University of Queensland

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Speaker 1: in Australia. Founder of the Exopolitics Institute. A couple of

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Speaker 1: his books include Galactic Federations, Councils and Secret Space Programs

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Speaker 1: and the US Air Force Secret Space Program as well.

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Speaker 1: His website is exopolitics dot org. Doctor Michael Salo, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the program, Michael, Thanks Joe, It's great to

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Speaker 1: be back. Always a pleasure. What did you think of

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Speaker 1: the Congressional hearings a couple weeks ago on these unidentified

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Speaker 1: aerial phenomena. I thought it was very significant for the

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Speaker 1: reasons at those within the official institutions, whether we're talking Congress,

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Speaker 1: mainstream media, universities could now start to discuss the UFO

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Speaker 1: phenomenon without being ridiculed. Apart from that, it was kind

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Speaker 1: of like an underwhelming experience for those of us that

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Speaker 1: have been studying the phenomenon for years and we're looking

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Speaker 1: for some kind of significant disclosure. I mean, there was

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Speaker 1: very little that was done other than just affirmed that

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Speaker 1: this phenomenon was real and there was no explanation for it.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was important for just legitimizing the

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Speaker 1: debate within official institutions so that professors can now start

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Speaker 1: talking about it without being ridiculed. There was a great

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Speaker 1: observation on your part, Michael. You're absolutely right. It made

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Speaker 1: the UFO field a little more credible than what you

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Speaker 1: and I and others have already believed all our lives,

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Speaker 1: and it added that credibility to it, though they didn't

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Speaker 1: give us much information that we didn't already know. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. But now it opens the door to

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Speaker 1: people starting to write up papers or delivering conference reports

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Speaker 1: on what they've found in their studies into the phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: You've locked out the Galactic Federation and the Star Cup

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Speaker 1: Command for some time. Now tell us what they are.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Michael, Well, you know, these are associations

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Speaker 1: of extraterrestrial life, and it's important to understand that extraterrestrials

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Speaker 1: would organize themselves politically just as we organize ourselves politically

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Speaker 1: when we reach a certain level of kind of civilizational development.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at our history as a planet,

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Speaker 1: mean in terms of like the development of nation states

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Speaker 1: and then the development of international organizations, they followed a

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Speaker 1: certain path when nation states began to war against each

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Speaker 1: other to the extent that this became dangerous for the

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Speaker 1: entirety of other nations states, then you had these organizations

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Speaker 1: that began to form. I mean, after the Napoleonic Wars,

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Speaker 1: you had the Concert of Europe, which was kind of

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Speaker 1: an informal association, and then you had the League of

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Speaker 1: Nations after the First World War being formed in nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So why wouldn't exterterstrials do the same in terms of

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Speaker 1: them organizing themselves politically. And so that was a question

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Speaker 1: I was very interested in from the beginning when I

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Speaker 1: realized that exterterstrial life was real, that they were visiting us,

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Speaker 1: that they were making contact with individuals, with governments, and

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Speaker 1: of course people were seeing them all over the place,

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Speaker 1: that well, how would they politically organize themselves? So that

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Speaker 1: was a question that I was very interested in from

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Speaker 1: very much the beginning of my involvement in this, but

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Speaker 1: never really found enough information to put it all together

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Speaker 1: in terms of an extended research report or a book

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Speaker 1: until recently that I thought, now we've reached a point

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Speaker 1: where there's just so much information that these organizations exist

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Speaker 1: and we can kind of get the basic idea of

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Speaker 1: some of the major ones that are influencing us. And

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Speaker 1: so I started to look at the history of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, who was the first contacte that began talking

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Speaker 1: about extraterrestrials being organized in bodies that were interacting with humanity,

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Speaker 1: that had laws of self governance and rules of intervention,

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Speaker 1: and that we could kind of get an idea of

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Speaker 1: in terms of multiple reports, not just one person saying

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Speaker 1: that this organization exists or that organization exists, but you know,

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Speaker 1: are there multiple reports over history? And so I found

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Speaker 1: that there were that two of those organizations that you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, the Ashtar Command and the Galactic Federation, These

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Speaker 1: organizations that were mentioned in the in the nineteen fifties

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Speaker 1: by different contactees George van Tassel, one of the most

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Speaker 1: famous contactees ever. He was the organizer of the Giant

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Speaker 1: Rock conventions that had up to eleven thousand people attending

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Speaker 1: then you have Daniel Fry, another classic contact Dee, who

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Speaker 1: So that meant that we have since that time multiple

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Speaker 1: Exeterstus have politically organized themselves and how they're interacting with

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Speaker 1: humanity in an organized fashion. Why, in your opinion, Michael,

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Speaker 1: is it so important for us to understand the logistics

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Speaker 1: of this organization and regulation. Well, you know, we need

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Speaker 1: to know what rules they have in interacting with humanity.

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Speaker 1: In the famous Star Trek series, you had the Prime Directive,

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Speaker 1: which was a set of rules describing the conditions by

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Speaker 1: which the fictional confederation of Planets that were part of

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Speaker 1: the Star Trek series would be able to intervene involved.

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Speaker 1: And we all know that the Prime Directive describe that

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Speaker 1: there could not be any interference in the development of

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Speaker 1: a kind of prewarp society, so that the fictional version,

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Speaker 1: So why wouldn't an organization such as the Galactic Federation

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Speaker 1: have similar kind of by laws or rules against intervening

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Speaker 1: and disrupting the development the natural development of a organization

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Speaker 1: or a or a world such as the Earth. And

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Speaker 1: I thought that that was very, very significant, and so

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Speaker 1: I began to kind of look at that and found

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Speaker 1: that there was actually some of the contact is describing

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Speaker 1: the Prime Directive that the Galactic Federation operated on undone.

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Speaker 1: And this was something that what was very intriguing was

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Speaker 1: I found one of the draft documents of this Galactic Federation,

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Speaker 1: a real life galactic federation. This was something I got

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Speaker 1: from the French contact, a former archaeologist, Elena Dnah. She

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Speaker 1: gave me a draft or she gave me the Prime

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Speaker 1: Directive that she said belonged to the Galactic Federation the

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Speaker 1: world of the real life organization. And when I looked

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Speaker 1: If there was an overlap, there was kind of similar verbiage,

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Speaker 1: a real life Prime Directive belonging to a Galactic Federation.

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Speaker 1: And so then I went back and looked at some

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Speaker 1: of the earlier work I had done in examining people

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Speaker 1: such as Bill Tom Kerns and others, saying that Gene

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Speaker 1: Roddenberry was actually read in to a US Navy secret

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Speaker 1: the Galactic Federation. And so you kind of put two

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Speaker 1: and his Fictional Association Awards were actually being inspired or

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Speaker 1: actually being given real life documents that were very similar

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Speaker 1: to an actual galactic federation that exists today. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any doubts of its existence, Michael, I don't, just

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Speaker 1: because there are multiple reports going back to the nine

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Speaker 1: in fifties. As I said, you can begin with Daniel Fry,

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Speaker 1: George van Tassel, and then you go throughout the history

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Speaker 1: over the subsequent seven decades, and there are multiple sources

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Speaker 1: talking about these organizations, the Ashtar Command, the Galactic Federation,

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Speaker 1: and the Confederation of Worlds or Confederation of Planets. Multiple

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Speaker 1: sources talking about these, giving us an idea of different

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Speaker 1: organizizations out there that are intervening with humanity. And it

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Speaker 1: makes perfect sense because we know from our own history

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Speaker 1: as a as a planet that as you develop politically,

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Speaker 1: you go from say a city state to a nation state,

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Speaker 1: and then you go to a kind of interplanetary so

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Speaker 1: to an international organizations such as the League Nations and

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Speaker 1: the United Nations. Well, it makes a perfect sense that

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Speaker 1: extraterrestrials would would have a similar kind of development. And

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Speaker 1: here we have contact these saying that they had interacted

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Speaker 1: with representatives of these different organizations, and they described how

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Speaker 1: these different groups were organized politically, how they're their by laws,

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Speaker 1: their rules, and their and their field of operations, and

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Speaker 1: how it was that they've been helping humanity. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't have any doubt that extraterrestrials to organize themselves politically,

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Speaker 1: that this is just a natural flow of kind of

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Speaker 1: like history, whether we're talking human history galactic history that

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Speaker 1: extra trestles would organize themselves, just as we have organized

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