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Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, two year old and Paulinesse Kevin Washington with

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Speaker 2: you be in your ear drums for the next couple

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Speaker 2: of couple of hours. A couple of years might be

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Speaker 2: a little too long. A couple of hours. I'm laughing

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Speaker 2: because man, I feel inadequate. Oh that we came in here.

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Speaker 2: We're in here right now, ready to do a show,

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Speaker 2: just you and I. We don't have seventy five people

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Speaker 2: like LeVar LaVar Anton just left with the whole crew.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was like the clown cause yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they just kept coming out.

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Speaker 4: They just kept coming. I was, excuse me, excuse me,

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Speaker 4: how you do hat?

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Speaker 3: Excuse me?

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to just give me. Hey, I'm just trying

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Speaker 4: to get.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 3: I gotta stup my game up.

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Speaker 2: And it was like usually you see that many people

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Speaker 2: like okay, one person has a camera, one person might

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Speaker 2: have something that like it was nine cameras. He had

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Speaker 2: every angle behind you, above you, below you. I was

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Speaker 2: waiting on a drone all of a sudden being the building.

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Speaker 3: What's the V trying to say?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what what is you trying to do?

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Speaker 2: I need to be a part of it, a lot

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Speaker 2: to get you and a short amount of time, of

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Speaker 2: course getting ready for Game two tonight NBA Finals. You

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Speaker 2: have Denver Nuggets, who took game on to tomorrow tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You have the Nuggets who took Game one, and they

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Speaker 2: didn't just take game one. And as you would know

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Speaker 2: having played in the NBA, sometimes a score, at least

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Speaker 2: to me, doesn't tell the story. Miami made a good

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Speaker 2: push in the fourth quarter, but really you could just

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Speaker 2: tell it was a dominating game from Denver, And if

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Speaker 2: you look at the stat sheet, Denver kind of got

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Speaker 2: exactly what you would want from every player, Like this

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Speaker 2: guy casep Okay, maybe a couple more points from him,

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Speaker 2: but Aaron Gordon played big first, Jamal Murray did he

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Speaker 2: was supposed to do. Yokis did exactly what he was

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Speaker 2: supposed to do. So on and so forth, even Bruce

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Speaker 2: Brown Miami not the case. Guys who would played well,

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Speaker 2: maybe played over what we thought they could do. Guys,

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Speaker 2: how many, I mean, are we not all tired of

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Speaker 2: the undrafted narrative?

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Speaker 3: My gosh.

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Speaker 2: Like it's a big deal for sure, but at a

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Speaker 2: certain point it's like if you had a girlfriend or wife,

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Speaker 2: be like man, you know what she You know, she's

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Speaker 2: pretty from a girl from style?

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Speaker 3: All right? Now?

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Speaker 4: Can I just be pretty? Can I just be a hooper?

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Speaker 2: How many times you have to keep reminding me that

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Speaker 2: they're undrafted, But I said that to say they did

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Speaker 2: play like they were undrafted Game one of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: The cream rises to the top and those guys, And

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Speaker 3: to go back to your point with Denver, You're right,

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Speaker 3: the score is not indicative of how much of a

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Speaker 3: beatdown it was. I think the only time the score

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Speaker 3: is important is for gamblers, and so to me, the

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Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets. And it also almost bit them in the

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Speaker 3: butt because it was so easy to build those twenty

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Speaker 3: point leads. It almost came back to bite them because

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Speaker 3: they started really relaxing. And when they one thing I've

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Speaker 3: known for certain, whenever they take Joker out the game,

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Speaker 3: there's a little lull, you know. He just brings so

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Speaker 3: much more. And so to me, that's what I was

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Speaker 3: looking to see how the rest of the guys came

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Speaker 3: to play. I knew Jamal Murray would be ready. I

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Speaker 3: definitely knew Joker would be ready, but the fact that

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Speaker 3: they concentrate on getting Aaron Ordon shots early They're like,

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Speaker 3: you gonna you're gonna play Smalls against him. Well, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna make you pay for it. We're gonna force you

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Speaker 3: to make changes. And so when you make the adjustment

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Speaker 3: with people are talking about, oh yeah, they need to

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Speaker 3: play Kevin Love Moore, they need to play Zella. That's

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Speaker 3: what Denver wants right now.

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Speaker 2: It's been about twelve fifteen years when somebody said they

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Speaker 2: wanted more Cody Zeller, Like, I mean, the only person

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Speaker 2: might be the only person. And you know, I remember

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Speaker 2: reading that. Now again you do make adjustments again, as

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Speaker 2: you know, Yes, every now and again you'll play somebody

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Speaker 2: like if you go back to the early Calves Warriors finals,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Matthew Delavadova. It's not that he's

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Speaker 2: a great player, it's just for this particular series he's

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Speaker 4: Not that he's gonna stop stuff. You've seen it.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Pistons fan, and I remember Tayshaun Prince against

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Speaker 2: Tracy McGrady back in the day, They're like, we can

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Speaker 2: we can chase some great averaged about.

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Speaker 3: Sixty two points against us.

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Speaker 2: What we gonna do And then he look around is

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Speaker 2: like this young rookie dude is kind of playing him well,

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Speaker 2: and so it happens. So I'm not saying Cody Zaelller

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Speaker 2: a place in the series, but tacked as if that

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with that. But I want to touch on.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler for a second because I want to ask

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Speaker 2: you something, in all of your basketball expertise, is there

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Speaker 2: a such thing as over selling someone that we undersold?

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Speaker 2: Here's what I mean. I think you know where I'm

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Speaker 2: going with that. We all agreed that Jimmy Butler is

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Speaker 2: a guy, maybe we should talk about a little bit

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Speaker 2: more right and maybe you could say it happened a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago in the Bubble when he showed

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Speaker 2: up like dang, okay, Jimmy really is balling.

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Speaker 4: And then not only that, he got him to the finals.

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Speaker 4: He's balling in the finals.

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Speaker 2: And I know everybody looks at the Bubble was kind

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Speaker 2: of flukey basketball because you had guys doing stuff they

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Speaker 2: normally don't do. However, Jimmy Butler has had a really

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Speaker 2: nice career, but all of a sudden, he had a

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Speaker 2: really good first round, this playoff series, this run, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we're acting like he's the next

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden just automatically call him a Hall

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Speaker 4: We can say somebody is really good, and man, you

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Speaker 4: know what, he's a guy.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to have my fox hole, but we

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Speaker 2: don't have to all of a sudden like he's top

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Speaker 2: fifteen ever. And I think we're starting to do that too.

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Speaker 2: This is my last point. I throw it to you, Olden.

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Speaker 2: It's like when somebody says Lebron or Kobe Tupac or

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Speaker 2: Biggie for me to start big up in my other guy,

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Speaker 2: I gotta start down, you know, dude, down in your guy.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like I'm starting almost at the down Jimmy,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right, and that's unfortunately how we are

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Speaker 3: into society. Now, Jimmy Butler's not even the next Kawhi Leonard, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a really good player, and he does

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Speaker 3: bring a certain edge to any team he's on. But

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Speaker 3: let's not get crazy. He's had good runs based on

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Speaker 3: the fact that other teams played like trash, and so

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Speaker 3: a lot of that stuff comes into play too. Now

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Speaker 3: you're playing against a very smart, talented, and athletic team,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna make a lot tougher for Jimmy Butler. So no,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna be exposing the Denver Nuggets like you

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Speaker 3: did the Boston Celtics. Case in point, marcaut Smart won

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Speaker 3: the NBA Defensive Player the year. I saw market Smart

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Speaker 3: do more three sixty turns during that series than I've

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Speaker 3: ever seen in my life of any player, let alone

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Speaker 3: of dpoy and so to me, it was because of

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Speaker 3: bad decisions, bad basketball. All of a sudden, Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 3: became this guy. But like you said, to your point,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna knock other people to pump up Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna respect what he's done and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Let's not go overboard. I totally agree with you. We

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Speaker 3: have gone overboard. All the narratives are really over the

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Speaker 3: top nowadays. And that's the bad part.

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Speaker 2: When you don't have something sexy going on, where you

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Speaker 2: don't have the warriors and stuff and all the glamor

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Speaker 2: you don't have Lebron and.

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Speaker 4: You know, will this make him the greatest of all time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a final.

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Speaker 2: We gotta start at I mean we are the gym.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen list Jimmy Butler. Would you rather

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Speaker 2: have you know him, Kobe and a gaming all right?

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Speaker 3: Guys to keep the fans, and they think it's doing

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Speaker 3: the right thing, but it's really doing a disservice to

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Speaker 3: the league. Because you have thirty NBA teams, that means

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Speaker 3: all thirty are capable of being in the NBA. All

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Speaker 3: the players are some are gonna be better than others.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was getting mad at people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: this guy sucks, he sucks compared to.

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Speaker 2: Lebron, right right, right right? I thought that to be

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Speaker 2: all the time. If you play, if you play an NBA, listen,

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Speaker 2: I've been on the court with Jalen Rose and Chauncey

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Speaker 2: let's just say they might even be sixty five years past,

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Speaker 2: you know, playing days. They will bust your butt so

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Speaker 2: easily at the local YMCA or rec center easily.

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Speaker 4: Now take the fifteenth man on the team.

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Speaker 3: Man, he sucks.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, Man, I'm like dude, if he went

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Speaker 2: to any gym, any pickup run, he would get busy.

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Speaker 2: To your point, I'm sorry, I can't handle the rock

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Speaker 2: like Kyrie, the greatest officer itcams are. I can't shoot

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Speaker 2: it like Klay Thompson. But there's only four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty spots in the world in the NBA, and all

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Speaker 2: of these guys secure a spot for a reason. So

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Speaker 2: I'm totally with you on that. But going back to

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Speaker 2: the Jimmy thing, I think he's been spectacular and I

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Speaker 2: do think there's something to him being and doing maybe

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Speaker 2: the opposite of Kawhi Leonard, him kind of saying I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna play the regular season in order to play most

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Speaker 2: of the games, and I'm gonna play hard, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna play all the way max out or maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give some more responsibility to these other players,

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Speaker 2: and we might lose some games because maybe I didn't

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Speaker 2: go all out and you know, and dominate this game.

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Speaker 2: But I know I'm gonna need him, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: need him, and i'm gonna need him to be confident,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna need him to remember that time he

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Speaker 2: took over a game back in March.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna need that later.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like maybe Jimmy does that to kind

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Speaker 2: of get himself in a pace that he's able to

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Speaker 2: play and perform in the playoffs, except for obviously Game one,

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Speaker 2: and it just was a tough game for him and

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Speaker 2: the whole team. But I think he lived a little

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Speaker 2: bit of that versus you look at a Kawhi and

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Speaker 2: you just don't know, Kawhi, you not playing?

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Speaker 4: That's what I want to ask him, Kawhy aren't you

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Speaker 3: Kawhi? Can we never depend on you?

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Speaker 2: Kaw Why are you taking time off and then not

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Speaker 2: even playing when we need you.

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Speaker 3: That's a whole other discussion, But I want to make

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Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and get y'all some buckets. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you said that, because I feel like

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Speaker 2: We remember our father's doing it, our grandfather's doing it,

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Speaker 2: That is real songwriting right there? Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: want to stick get back to Nicola Jokic and how

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Speaker 2: on this Saturday. Hopefully it is amazing one from you.

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Speaker 2: Oh then, what's what's the Twitter handle on all the

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Speaker 3: For myself it is old and Polonese one at Twitter

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Speaker 3: Oh just stop right now.

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Speaker 2: Older, you were older, you were sounding like we just

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Speaker 3: What shoes? My Space?

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Speaker 4: Although my space? Hey, my Space? It used to get real.

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Speaker 2: You were going there and looking all sudden somebody demoted

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Speaker 2: for me. But yeah, at black plane dot com was real,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, first all were not even to gether, like

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Speaker 2: Find me on all the platforms there couldn't get Kelvin

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Speaker 2: Washington Olden on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't go all the way that did. That's why

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Speaker 3: I'm old and Ponies won. Somebody had it, Yes, you

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Speaker 3: got out here. No, some guy just took my name.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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Speaker 4: You know, his name made Olden. It is eight billion

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Speaker 2: His name is not old and Polonies man. And that

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Speaker 2: Kelvin Washington on Instagram. There's one dude. I've talked about

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Speaker 2: it here before. One young black dude put a picture

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Speaker 3: A gazillion Kelvin Washington.

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Speaker 2: There are, and did you notice a lot of them

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Speaker 4: So I'm always Washington, Southeast Asian name.

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Speaker 2: It's a Kelvin part of it. There's a lot of kelvin,

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Speaker 3: I do know asient kelvin. Kelvin like a heat.

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Speaker 4: It's a way of of It's like kelvin, un measure exactly.

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Speaker 7: If you see your name a little like differently could

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Speaker 2: And that settled down all right, back to what we

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Speaker 2: should have been three time MVP. MANI say, some still

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Speaker 2: say too old and because they the one last year

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Speaker 2: they said, oh please, are you giving me recency bias

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Speaker 2: that we realize? Okay, he is the best player. By

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Speaker 2: the way, is Giannis under the Koumpo sitting at home

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Speaker 2: like yo. If I wasn't injured, maybe we don't lose

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Speaker 2: that series. Maybe y'all don't think I'm not still the

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Speaker 2: best player in the league.

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Speaker 3: If my aunt had testicles, should be my uncle.

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Speaker 2: And there you having, folks. That's our show for today.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back at you next. I have heard of

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Speaker 2: if it was a fifth we'd all be drunk. But

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Speaker 2: to put together, bring your team together, that's an MVP.

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Speaker 2: That's the most valuable. And I said this before when

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee won games when Joker was out they got drug.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole difference. That's a great point because that's

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Speaker 2: for sure. I want to I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: left hand because it's something that he and his daughter do.

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Speaker 3: He's holes.

435
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 2: He makes fun of himself that try you're the best

436
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 2: player in Lady's like. It's uncomfortable with it. He hates

437
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this guy is so but isn't that refreshing?

438
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 2: It is?

439
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: It is.

440
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: But the problem with that is and not problem, but

441
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Speaker 2: I think if you're the league, you're used to having

442
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: Lebron have been the face of the and he's probably

443
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Speaker 2: still maybe the face as far as recognition, But you know,

444
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 2: your superstars had something charming about them, something, you know,

445
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Speaker 2: something even if it was.

446
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Speaker 4: I didn't like the whole Charles Barkley. You know, I'm

447
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 4: a tough guy.

448
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 3: You don't like me.

449
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm not a role model like with Yogic, just like

450
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 2: what do we promo? Like what do you do build

451
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 2: a bear? Like, like, well, how do you market him?

452
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: He's he's he's not very the typical NBA player in

453
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Speaker 2: that regard of like it it's something there.

454
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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do with it. This is

455
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 3: how the best way to describe it. And again it

456
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: goes back to we were sitting at home, my wife

457
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Speaker 3: and I and watching videos of Magic, Bird and Jordan

458
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Speaker 3: cause she's like, yeah, I've never seen these guys play that. Yeah,

459
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 3: so I show all the videos. She's like, oh my god,

460
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Speaker 3: you could tell this stars. But these guys became stars.

461
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: They weren't fabricated or might not give you Magic because

462
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Speaker 3: he was at the star in high school. But that's

463
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They became stars. That's my point. They

464
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Speaker 3: became So Magic was a star in high school. They

465
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: gave him the nickname Magic. It wasn't forced, it wasn't fabricated.

466
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Speaker 3: Got so it's like Bird is a star in college

467
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: in high school, we're hearing about him. People talk about

468
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Speaker 3: I didn't know he was white, you know, as good

469
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 3: as he was Michael Jordan, the shot in college. So

470
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: all these things were happening. Charles Barclay, you know, his

471
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: personality was already there round minor rebound, so we didn't

472
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Speaker 3: have to make it up. It was already there.

473
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Speaker 1: It just grew.

474
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Speaker 3: Now we have to create stars. We have to create

475
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Speaker 3: these guys. And that's the problem. The NBA has happened

476
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: because Okay, Jimmy Butler's a great play He's into country music.

477
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: I love that. Ye that's him. That's his thing. But

478
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: it's like, so the marketing is gonna go for that route.

479
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: He has a big commercial all that stuff, so you

480
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 3: can do that. Jokers said, you know what, we don't

481
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: see a lot of Yannis and commercials. It's the couple.

482
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, is that far as big as he is

483
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Speaker 3: with Embiid? Like with Embiid is Embiid.

484
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 4: In Philly talking about, Hey, what I would I could call?

485
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: I go to Bob. You know, Lebron has commercials, Steph

486
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: has commercials, the rest of the league, Kawhi has one.

487
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Speaker 3: And that's.

488
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Speaker 4: So it's Chris Paul Cliff Paul is a great campaign.

489
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Speaker 3: Chris Paul. That was a great campaign. I love that.

490
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Speaker 3: But it's like there's there's not enough of these guys

491
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Speaker 3: and so to the point where we have to make

492
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Speaker 3: up storylines and narratives, and so that's my thing. I

493
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Speaker 3: just don't like it right now because we're creating and

494
00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: not create, fabricating, fabricating stars, and that that's the problem

495
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Speaker 3: that I'm having.

496
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Speaker 2: Well, at least we know we'll have one coming up,

497
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Speaker 2: at least in the new joh Wick. They call it

498
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Speaker 2: that Man joh Wick calling that Man joh Wick, so

499
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Speaker 2: we know he'll have a movie coming out. Oh, Man

500
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Speaker 2: joh Wick. The memes coming up, all right, So a

501
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: whole lot more to get to, of course, getting you

502
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Speaker 2: ready for Game two of the NBA Finals happening tomorrow.

503
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that some more in store two. And

504
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Speaker 2: I want to ask Olden about coaches, some new hires

505
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: in the NBA. How much does a coach really make?

506
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Speaker 2: How much of a difference do they really make. We'll

507
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Speaker 2: discuss that, but right now it's what's trending.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Brian Finley here and thanks to Kelvin and Olden.

509
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Speaker 6: As far as what's going on right now. NBA forward

510
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Speaker 6: Julius Randall had surgery on his left ankle and a

511
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Speaker 6: scheduled to be back for the Knicks training camp. Former

512
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 6: Yukon and coach Kevin Olly joining the Nets coaching staff.

513
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 6: Came one of the Stanley Cup Final getting underway tonight

514
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 6: in Vegas, Golden Knights clashing with the Florida Panthers starting

515
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Speaker 6: at eight pm Eastern. As far as May League baseball

516
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Speaker 6: games going on right now, the Rays are taking it

517
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 6: to the Red Sox three to nothing, top of the fifth.

518
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 6: I think Tampa has runners on first and second, Tigers

519
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 6: in a white Sox just underway middle of the second inning.

520
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 6: There the Memorial Tournament is happening. PGA Tour. Headeq Matsiyama

521
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Speaker 6: has the lead at nine under. Collectively, he is two

522
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Speaker 6: under four the day through four holes. Patrick Cantlay forming

523
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Speaker 6: UCLA Bruin is two shots off the pace in solo

524
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Speaker 6: second at seven under one under today four shots or

525
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Speaker 6: excuse me, four holes in, and Rory McElroy is four

526
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Speaker 6: strokes behind at five under for the tournament one under

527
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Speaker 6: today through six holes.

528
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Speaker 8: A lot of baseball coming up.

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Speaker 6: Olden and Kelvin later on today, including that big Dodgers game,

530
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Speaker 6: which is going to be on Fox Television at seven

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Speaker 6: fifteen Eastern Ton Dodgers and Yankee. So that let's get

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Speaker 6: it back to olden Paul Nice and Kelvin Washington.

533
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Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Brian, Brian, I'll be coming out here trying

534
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Speaker 4: to give me your.

535
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Speaker 2: Super hey or give him this super ready. But he's like, Hey,

536
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna hop on there with you guys and

537
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: just take over.

538
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: Is that what you're trying to know?

539
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Speaker 8: You didn't know my name? So I was trying to

540
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 8: like so so people didn't know because we've worked together, right, hold.

541
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Speaker 2: On, hold on, hold on, Sam cut the music. He

542
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: first off, why are you coming at me like, how

543
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: do you know?

544
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: I didn't know your name? Let me ask you.

545
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't say your name or I didn't know

546
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Speaker 4: your name.

547
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Speaker 8: To that's adain point. You know what they say about

548
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Speaker 8: people who assume. Yeah, so you you have a great

549
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 8: point there, KELVI, listen, you know what I mean?

550
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: He come in here and he got his V neck

551
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: on Donald's belly buttony over here.

552
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Speaker 8: You know it was only buddy that Kell No, Brian,

553
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 8: I know, Kelvin knew your name.

554
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Brian. You see this, this cup here,

555
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: this is Loyola Law School. That's why I was able

556
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: to come back at you with that defense. My wife

557
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: graduated law school. So now for like, I'm a lawyer.

558
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: You can't tell me nothing right now. Anybody got any issues?

559
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: How at your boy? I take care of anybody. What

560
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: you need right now? You some parking tickets? I got you, Yes,

561
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: you know, somebody got somes. Nobody going through a divorce,

562
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: I got you. You need an entertainment lawyer. I'm over here. Yeah,

563
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: we'll talk after this. We'll talk after this, all right.

564
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: So I want to get to coaching real quick. Just

565
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: her Brian talking about Kevin Ali going to be an

566
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Speaker 2: assistant coach over there with the nets you got Frank

567
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: Vogel look like he's going to be the coach with

568
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns, my Detroit Pistons, obviously getting Monty Williams there.

569
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Speaker 4: First off, just the ones that jump out to you.

570
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Speaker 4: Do you like those hirings?

571
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Speaker 2: And then I want to ask you from your time playing,

572
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: how much of a difference does a coach make?

573
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Speaker 3: You know?

574
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 2: They have the war wins above replacement, all these types

575
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: of stats. And you know they say, this player in

576
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: baseball can win you three extra games, this player in basketball.

577
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Speaker 3: What is a coach good for? How would you see that? Well,

578
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Speaker 3: I'll start with that one. First, coaches do make a difference.

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Speaker 3: We used to say some coaches are worth five to

580
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Speaker 3: ten games a season. And so I was lucky enough

581
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: to play for some of the greatest coaches ever. And

582
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: so to me, Jerry Sloan, Casey Jones, Bernie Bickerstaff, I

583
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: mean I had all these guys Don Cheney, so they

584
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: knew how to handle situations. They didn't break down, you know,

585
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: they were calm, cool, collected in the moment. And we

586
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: didn't have all this, all these statistics and analytics. It

587
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: was go out there, play basketball, run our offense, play defense,

588
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: win the game. That was it, right, There was nothing else.

589
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 3: Seems simple. And so to me, excuse me, it's changed

590
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: now with analytics. Well, he likes to shoot over here,

591
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: he likes Oh, at the end of the day, it's

592
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: still a basketball game. And I think that's where a

593
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: lot of these coaches have faulted because they are trying

594
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: to like coach by analytics as opposed to coaching. What

595
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: I have you know this guy. Yeah, the analytics might

596
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: say he does this, but I might be able to

597
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: use him better over here. So it's one of those

598
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: weird situations. And again people are just trying to maintain

599
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: their jobs. We've seen coaches a year to remove from

600
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: championships getting fired at that crazy it's yeah, thing I've

601
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 3: ever seen. And so it's like, but at the end

602
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: of the day, they turned right back around and get rehired.

603
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, but that but okay, I'm glad you said that.

604
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: So that's what makes it weird for me.

605
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: Like Frank Vogel sucked a year ago, all of a sudden,

606
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be, for the Lakers, give him,

607
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: but now he's great enough to go to a team

608
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: that has championship expectations. Like what it's like, Manti Williams, Hey,

609
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: you let this team all of a sudden, you stabilize

610
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: the Phoenix team that wasn't talking about nothing for about

611
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: ten twelve years since Steve Nash. Now, all of a sudden,

612
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: they're relevant, they're good that, we have high expectations. They

613
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: make it to an NBA Finals not too long ago.

614
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: Get out. But yet Detroit's, oh, that's our guy. It's like,

615
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: can we give you you seventy eight man? We kill

616
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: you all the bag. We gave him the whole bag.

617
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: So it's like, what it just makes me laugh to

618
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: your point. First of all, who had more jobs in

619
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Speaker 2: the history of NBA coaching than Mike Woodson. I feel

620
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: like Mike Woodson has coached half of the NBA, if

621
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Speaker 2: not more. I mean, and I'm sure there's a couple

622
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: of the guys if I put my brain to it,

623
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Speaker 2: that just like they just went from team to tea

624
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: to team to team to team, and it's like, Okay,

625
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: is he is.

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Speaker 8: He good coach or not?

627
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Speaker 3: Like what do we cause?

628
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Speaker 2: To me?

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Speaker 3: Yes, a retread a time or two.

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Speaker 2: I get that, But I would be looking for the

631
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Speaker 2: next filling the blank from maybe whether it's college or

632
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: whether it's a guy that who let me find my

633
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: Eric Sposter And I want to throw this at you,

634
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: Eric Sposter. Good years, great years, championship, bad years? Why

635
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: is it the NBA a little bit more? And maybe

636
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: even all leagues a little bit more? Like the Pittsburgh

637
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Steelers and Mike Tomlin. You know, they have three coaches

638
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: and what's like seventy years literally where they're just like, hey,

639
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: these guys work. We know they're not always gonna have

640
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: great seasons. Obviously Mike Tomlin hasn't had a losing season.

641
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: Up point is, this is our guy. We're gonna ride

642
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: with him through the ups to the downs. Sometimes it's

643
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: our fault we didn't surround him with the right town.

644
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's literally just that dude was injured. Sometimes hey

645
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: we gambled. That guy just wasn't good enough. But that's

646
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: our guy. I'm always weirded about that, like coach of

647
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: the year fired, championship fired in a year or two,

648
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Speaker 2: Like is he your guy?

649
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Speaker 1: Or nah?

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Speaker 3: That's true? I mean, to your point, the Steelers an

651
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: aberration along with right now with the heat san Antonio

652
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: Spurs with pop yep and now the heat, and then

653
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: also with depending on what he decides to do, the

654
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: Warriors with Steve Kirk. So Steve Kirk can do whatever

655
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: he wants, Popovich can do whatever he wants, supposed to

656
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: can do whatever. But the key of it is this,

657
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: the Steelers knew that they wanted continuity and they built

658
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: that culture just like the Heat. Famously said by Pat,

659
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: don't you ever come in my office telling me who

660
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: to fire yeah, he's not firing Eric Sposu. Doesn't matter

661
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: if it's the owner whomever. He will stand up for

662
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: it because it's like, hey, we have something good here,

663
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: and the key to it is this, Like with Tomlin,

664
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Popovich and Spostra and Kerk, the message changes even though

665
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: it's the same we gotta win, but they find different

666
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: ways to say the same message over and over. So

667
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: it's not old, right, it still sounds fresh, it still

668
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: sounds exciting, and so to me, that's the key. A

669
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: lot of these guys aren't able to do that. A

670
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: lot of these coaches aren't even people persons. They just

671
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: got a job, you know, so they think they got

672
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: to act a certain way or be a certain way.

673
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: It's not even conducive to them. It's just like, hey,

674
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: this is how I thought I was supposed to act

675
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: and be and then you get caught. But to your point,

676
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: like guys get fired. My man wasn't good enough for

677
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: the Lakers, but now he's good enough for I'm just

678
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: like for the Sun, which is a nice team.

679
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: And he's walking right into expectation, your contract that and

680
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: he's walking in or he's walking into like, uh, it's

681
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: championship or bus. He's not walking into rebuild, rebuild or

682
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: let's have us. Hey, we make it between you and us,

683
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: you and I. If we make it to the playoffs,

684
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: that's a good seat. Like no, he's walking in, Hey, bro,

685
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm as I've always said this, this is what I

686
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: would like to see. And it's nothing against any of

687
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: those gentlemen, you know, because I wouldn't want it to

688
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: happen to me. But I do believe it should be

689
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: talked about. If you get fired as a coach with

690
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: a losing record, you should have to sit out of here.

691
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: M You should not be getting rewarded with a better job.

692
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. I just don't like that part

693
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: of it. Now, if you're winning like bullting Holes Bulden

694
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Holeser never should have been fired.

695
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. He should not have been fired. His brother died.

696
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: You know, so many different things what's happening, and you know,

697
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: Giannis gets hurt and then you're gonna fire him. He's

698
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: allowed to go get another job somewhere. But if a

699
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: guy is just struggling like a Dwayne Casey when he

700
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: was with Detroit, he should not be getting a job

701
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: right now.

702
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: He got one he's hanging out in the office. He

703
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: should he lost up he should not upgrade. He got

704
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 2: upgraded right there. But I always see that all these

705
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: coaching movies, and I'm just kind of weired out by it.

706
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't I don't get it. If you like,

707
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 2: if I got a guy to give him some time,

708
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: we suck. We got this rebuilding process and he's slowly

709
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: inching us in the right direction. Or if you have

710
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: again a situation where look, man, this guy had you

711
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: brought up coach budd It's like lost his brother, uh

712
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Giannis out a couple of games, and yes, Joannis came

713
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: back and they probably should have won those games. But

714
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: just got It's like you're not rewarded for anything. I know,

715
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: it's what happened. Janet Jackson is loving it. It's what

716
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: happened for me lately. I understand that. But I'm just

717
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: always kind of like, dang and some of the jobs

718
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: of stop gaps.

719
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, the NBA, a lot of the gms, they'll

720
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: bring in a guy for a year or two. You know,

721
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: we saw it with Silas, you know in Houston, that

722
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 3: was a stop gap. He wasn't gonna be that long.

723
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I love him. His father was like the

724
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: dead friend of mine who got rest in peace. But

725
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: it's like he was not gonna be the guy to

726
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: lead them to the promised land. You know, he's just

727
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: not on that level. There's only a few coaches, just

728
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: like players, there's only a few high level coaches.

729
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: You just reminding me when Paul George admitted he's not

730
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: that guy a couple of months ago. For those who

731
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: don Pablo George was on his podcast and he just said,

732
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: at a certain point he realized, like I'm not the one,

733
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: and by one, I mean like a type of player,

734
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: that caliber player who just having me. We're gonna get to,

735
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: you know, the finals or get to a championship like

736
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: I did. I appreciate that. I hate that everybody. Oh man,

737
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: I would never say, I'm like, dude, how about he plays?

738
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: How about he first off, he is himself. Secondly, he

739
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: plays the game. He's around folks and he knows what

740
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: it And you just said it. There's only five guys

741
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: or so that you're like, all right, and they're prime.

742
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Lebron's probably is past that, but like

743
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: you knew prime Lebron, we go into the finals.

744
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: Paul George has all my respect to come back from

745
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 3: the injury he had. I ain't got nothing negative to

746
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: say about him. Yep.

747
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,279
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Speaker 4: Uh, real quick little football.

773
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: Talk that we've been talking a little heavy NBA obviously

774
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: as we are in the NBA Finals. But there there

775
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: was a report from Ian Rappaport and some others about

776
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: the fact that he there was a chance last season

777
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: during the offseason that Russell Wilson was going to be

778
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: traded to the Philadelphia Eagles and that they were looking

779
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: at him, They were really interested interested in him during

780
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: the combine time, and that he was in the Commanders

781
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: as well were looking at him. But that eventually the

782
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: deal kind of fell through because he said now he

783
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: had a no trade clause and he was not interested

784
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: in joining those teams.

785
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: Boy did that not go right for him and go

786
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: extremely right for the Eagles.

787
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: Man.

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00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: You talk about sometimes God works in mysterious ways. I

789
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: think the Eagles fans found exactly who they won for

790
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: the next decade. And Jalen Hurts, Yes, they found their guy,

791
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: they found their success. He played an amazing super Bowl.

792
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: You can kind of tell the way he's built mentally,

793
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: the way he works out his body physically, and you're

794
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: and older and if you look at his history just

795
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: adversity at the verse, you're gonna be the guy. I wait,

796
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: no hold on to is the guy? You're gonna be

797
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: this guy? No way, Okay, we're gonna draft you high,

798
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: will draft a little bit later. It's like he just

799
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: keeps trugging a long innovative and that his agent, his

800
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: whole his whole entire staff around him is all women.

801
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: So this guy is a star, and I think obviously Eagles.

802
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: Got that right. And then it just went bad for Denver.

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00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: Oh man, it was. I mean, you think about in hindsight,

804
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, it worked out well, but I still

805
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: wouldn't have done it even without Jailing Hurts. I mean,

806
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson had his moments in his time, and so

807
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 3: what happened was that whole situation in Seattle with Pete

808
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: Carroll Man. It just started deteriorating. But when he got

809
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: to Denver, he was a shell of himself. Man, And

810
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: it's almost like he's a system quarterback. We realized that, now,

811
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Speaker 3: don't he said this some quarterback.

812
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to believe it, but I'll say this,

813
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: odin all of those former teammates who just either no comment,

814
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: had nothing positive say, or who were going at him

815
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: or at.

816
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: Him like man's waterback, and yeah, you know where they

817
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: smoked his fire. And so to me, yeah, you know,

818
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: he comes across as this guy, he's a good family man,

819
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: and I get all that, but at the end of

820
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: the day, it's what are you doing on the field?

821
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: And so to me, he was in a great situation.

822
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: I would have found a way to stay in Seattle,

823
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: you know, outside of that Botch debacle or whatever you

824
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: want to call it the super Bowl. It still doesn't

825
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: make no sense that I'm never gonna understand that one.

826
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Speaker 3: I know right now.

827
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Speaker 2: I mean I really do think I can't think. I'm

828
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: trying to think of you guys helped me out. Can

829
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: you think of any bigger blunder in sports? We're like,

830
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: it's an obvious, Like the dude you just handed in

831
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: the ball, you got like six yards, fell down at

832
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: the one and a half yard line.

833
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: They barely want to stop. They just everybody knew man

834
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: Shawn was getting the ball. He still was gonna get it.

835
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: They didn't call that man Beatmoll for no reason. He

836
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: was still getting in and the Patriots were going to

837
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: retreat a little bit, trying to save a little bit

838
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: of time.

839
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, we don't have to rehash that, but that was

840
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: one of those. So that's his whole thing. And then

841
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: you know, the whole situation in Denver was just it

842
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: was horrible. You know, Hacker gets fired and all that

843
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: because Russell was not he wasn't used to that system,

844
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: in that style and having to carry a two team.

845
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: He had help in Seattle, he had the defense, one

846
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: of the top defenses, and just a great situation offensively,

847
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, with.

848
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: Like so, yeah, it was horrible and it didn't look

849
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: good at all the things that you thought, like, Okay, well,

850
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: at least you can rely on this with him, it

851
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 2: wasn't the case.

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00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

853
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: And again he started to see at least at least perceptionally,

854
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: I won't speak for the players, it looked like some

855
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: of the players weren't buying them. You saw some of

856
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: the tweets, You saw some of the reactions on the

857
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: sideline with him, some of the facial expressions. Uh, you

858
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: heard about guys gotta you know how they couldn't approach him,

859
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: and then you know he had certain Yeah, and you

860
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: think it.

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00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: Would have been better in Philadelphia. They they booed Santa Claus.

862
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: Santa Claus, Santa Claus chilling in the North Pole right now, like, Hey,

863
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 2: I'm taking the kids agains.

864
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: Why a y'all mad at me?

865
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: But it's interesting And that's what That's one of the

866
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: best things about sports is you just never know as

867
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: much as we all think we know. Uh, even with

868
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: you know, Victor wabin Yama whatever I know, I brought

869
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: you that name. He might end up who knows, he

870
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: might ask me or anything about him. Oh you got

871
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: some intail or something? All right, hold on, let me

872
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: dropping little stuff like that. Don't that You just gave

873
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: me my tease. When we come back, older, it's gonna

874
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: break down some more dudes of Victor. We'll talk about

875
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: it Fox Sports Radio. Relax, old, and you got a

876
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: few more hours to your Yankees lose to the Dodgers.

877
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey said stop stop stop stop. Okay, I'm sorry.

878
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: I just don't mean it. Did I tell you?

879
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: Bookie Bets is really good at baseball. I don't know

880
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: if you're aware of that.

881
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: I have a stepson that plays baseball and it's a

882
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: Dodger fanatic having their head right all last night and

883
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: it was like and I had to take it. We

884
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: laid a massive eggs man. I don't know what the anyway.

885
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: I know I can't cuss and all that, but so no,

886
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: they play well, the Dodgers just hit the off button

887
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: real quickly. I'm just giving the Dodgers credit right now

888
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: because we play like. Aw, that's the thing about it.

889
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: You come right back today and tomorrow and you got

890
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: a shout to you know, do you think obviously I know,

891
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: we get one. I'm not even saying we're gonna get too.

892
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: I just I'm hoping we get one. Is it starting?

893
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: Is it already at the place, Olden where you're like,

894
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: just don't embarrass me. Oh yeah, just don't embarrass me.

895
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Speaker 2: Of course, NBA Finals tomorrow we at the Nuggets up

906
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: one game to kneel over the heat. Many folks saying

907
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: the heat should just be happy to be there. Obviously,

908
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: if you know pat Riley, that ain't the case. Pat

909
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Riley's coming in there, and then that whole organization is

910
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: feeling like why not us? Obviously they're out und if

911
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: you will, they're under talented when it comes to the Nuggets.

912
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: But hey, every single series, we keep going, that's good enough,

913
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna make it. Okay, that's good enough,

914
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna make it, and they keep doing so.

915
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: A couple other things I want to get to before

916
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: we get back to the NBA Finals. I want to

917
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: throw this at you. You and I were talking about

918
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: this off air. What do you do if you're the Celtics,

919
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: I want you to put in your GM hat right now,

920
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: because on one end you can say, hey man, all

921
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: I know is Jalen Brown has been the five Eastern

922
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Conference finals. Tatum believe it's four. We've been to the

923
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: NBA Finals last year and we were a you know,

924
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: a half away, if you will, from going again this year.

925
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: They're both under twenty six. So our two wings who

926
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 2: are both all NBA players, they're all Stars, they're under

927
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: twenty six. Just keep chugging along, just keep pushing. Then

928
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: there's others say I've seen this show before, We've been

929
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: here before, and at a certain point we got to

930
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: move on. Kind of sell while it's high, right, Jalen

931
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: Brown or all NBA player, Let's get something good for

932
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: him while we can. Obviously you're not getting rid of Tatum.

933
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: Which side of the coin are you on when it

934
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: comes to the Boston Celtics.

935
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: I'm on the side of I gotta get rid of

936
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: one of those two guys, and I'm keeping Jason Tatum

937
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: because he does a little bit more, especially on the

938
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: defensive end, which is very pronounced between he and Jail

939
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: and Brown, and I'm not tying my team up to

940
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: six hundred million dollars for two guys. That's absurd. So

941
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: he's all, NBA, let me get something for him now,

942
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 3: because that's not gonna work anymore. We've seen this movie.

943
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: It's happened. We're good. That's it. And the funny thing

944
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: about it, you know, yeah, they made it to the

945
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: to Eastern Conference Finals, but if the seventy six it

946
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: hadn't played like Awes in that game when they were

947
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: up twelve. You know, Doc Rivers, with his record of

948
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 3: losing three to one leads, Boston never should have been

949
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: in there at all. And so to me, they lucked up.

950
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: Luck runs out, and to me, the Boston Celtic luck,

951
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: that Leprechaun luck, it's run out. So I'm getting rid

952
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: of jailing Brown and I'm definitely doing. And I need

953
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: a point guard. I need a legitimate, real point guard.

954
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: I don't need Marcus Smart maskal raised as a point guard.

955
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: Malcolm Brock the maskal rans a point guard, Derek White

956
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: maskal R has a point guard. I need a point

957
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 3: guard that can help this team.

958
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's obviously a hard position to find.

959
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: To find that guy, and uh and then not only that,

960
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: if if you're saying trading Jalen Brown, is there a

961
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: point guard out there? Because I heard some people saying,

962
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're they're Chris Paul Away or something

963
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: like that that you know, first of all, the issue

964
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: for them is obviously late in the season, in the playoffs,

965
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: Chris Paul be there. It's like that magic Gifferty, like

966
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: I shake his head. I'm not gonna be That's like

967
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: Chris Paul, He's not gonna be there. But it is

968
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: I find myself being like, ah, can I make another

969
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: move while not necessarily getting rid of those two? Can

970
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 2: I find a diamond in the rough?

971
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: You know?

972
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 4: Can I pull a You got to give credit what

973
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: credit's due to Rob Polenka in that now.

974
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Getting Austin Reeves who's about to get piz aid ruy Hachimur,

975
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: who's about to get paid.

976
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: Can I find my other pieces like that? You know?

977
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: Is it a delo situation?

978
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: You know, which I don't know that that's the answer,

979
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: But I'm you know, finding uh, you know, D'Angelo Russell.

980
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: But can I find something out there without having to

981
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: blow up the ship because we've had so much success

982
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: over the last four or five years that I don't

983
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to blow it all up

984
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden find myself an eight

985
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: seventh seed for the next four or five years.

986
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: It's okay if you have seventh, eight seed or whatever

987
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: it is, because at the end of the day, you're

988
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: gonna get better. You know, you're gonna get back to

989
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: the draft and you're the Boston Celtics. They're gonna figure

990
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: it out. I'm just saying I'm not tying up six

991
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,479
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. That's my whole thing right now. And again,

992
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: it's your money, spend it the way you want. But

993
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: if they trying to improve and get better, these are

994
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 3: things they need. Those two guys cannot coexisting. They've been

995
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: doing it and a little bit forced in a lot

996
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: of ways. And so to me, that's what people are

997
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: looking at. It hasn't been like very cohesive. It's been

998
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 3: forced in a lot of ways. And so that's the key.

999
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: The point guard's an issue. We need shooters. We need

1000
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: legit shooters. Now guys masquerading as shooters. We need legit shooters,

1001
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: you know, because at the end of the day, like

1002
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: I said, Jason Tatum Jeleen Brown play exactly the same way.

1003
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: The only difference between the two of them is that

1004
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum is a little bit better. He's more refined defender, yeah,

1005
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: and he's a little bit more refined with his moves.

1006
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 3: But they still have the same ugly drive to the

1007
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: with the left turnover move.

1008
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: Now, listen, I'm not gonna lie to you.

1009
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm just I don't like all this stuff.

1010
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: Man.

1011
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 3: I know I'm not the old NBA guy hating. I

1012
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: just like to call things as it is.

1013
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you. Jayalen Brown, I mean,

1014
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown looks like me trying to ice skate. Like

1015
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown is on the floor all the time. When

1016
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: he starts doing like if he takes more than three dribbles,

1017
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: something bad is about to happen.

1018
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 3: He looks like he's wearing ice skates sometimes when he's playing,

1019
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: like he's always falling down the moves he made they

1020
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 3: look awkward because he's the weirdest heck watching him play,

1021
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: because he's apposed to speak what he's done out of

1022
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: col You know how, he's become a great player, and

1023
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take that away. From him. But also

1024
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: you have to know who you are, and that's key too.

1025
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he's thinking he's up here, he's Kobe

1026
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: and all these guys. MJ Lebron. No, you're not.

1027
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: You're not well, I think, and he'll tell you. I

1028
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: think he has that whole mindset. If I don't believe it,

1029
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: you know, I can't be it kind of a thing.

1030
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 7: You know that.

1031
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: That's self assurance and self aware man. Paul George, we

1032
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: talked about earlier. Saying I'm not the one doesn't mean

1033
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: I'm not a good player. I'm married one. Yeah, I'm

1034
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: just not that guy. I'm not the guy that's gonna

1035
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 3: lead your team. I'm I'm Robin.

1036
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: I think we've understaw Paul George by the way, I mean,

1037
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: got a whole playoff p joke, Joe Joe. But Paul

1038
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: George is a heck of a player.

1039
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: Man.

1040
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: Like when he when he's healthy, he's playing, he's a

1041
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: phenomenal player. You get it on you know, defensive end

1042
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: as well. I'm a big fan, big fan of Paul George.

1043
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see what they do. Also, have

1044
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 2: I mentioned the Lakers a minute ago, it'd be interesting

1045
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: to see if they can obviously sign those two young

1046
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: players for themselves. Who they're gonna be. They're gonna be

1047
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: expecting to get paid. Well, let me ask you a question.

1048
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: You have to cut you off.

1049
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 3: No, you're good. So gel and Brown couldn't He's getting

1050
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: three hundred million. He couldn't stop killing one. He made

1051
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: him some money. He couldn't stop Max Strus. He got

1052
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: back dooring like seventy eight times by Duncan Robinson. Yeah,

1053
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: and I'm getting you three hundred million.

1054
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, the problem with that is, as

1055
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: you know, with salary caps when they go up and

1056
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: certain things like that, it's like, well, I have to

1057
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: pay somebody this money.

1058
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: Easy, I know how it works. But I'm asking you

1059
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 3: a questions.

1060
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Jleb First of all, it's like ten guys worth the

1061
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: money that these guys are getting.

1062
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: Now, you know what I mean.

1063
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 4: If Lebron is worth it just simply based off who

1064
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 4: he is.

1065
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, he got Steph, you got Giannis and b

1066
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: obviously your kitsch and you know, maybe if you want

1067
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: to say Tatum, I'm not mad at that.

1068
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: But after about.

1069
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: Booker, by the way he Booker, he had a heck

1070
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: of a playoff run. Heck of a playoff run, and

1071
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: then obviously like Katie. But outside of that, it's like, uh,

1072
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: nobody's really dropped down to the next level. Yeah, nobody's

1073
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: really worth it. And it's okay the next level. Still,

1074
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: you're still a star. And I said this a while ago,

1075
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: big diffen between star and superstar, and the money should

1076
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: reflect that. I'm glad you said that. Man, I wish

1077
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: we had some of the same folks who were here

1078
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: last time I was here. Sam, you were you were

1079
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: I think you were here the last time I was here.

1080
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: Do you remember when we had that conversation when I

1081
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: said that there is a difference between a superstar, a

1082
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: star and a really good player, and I gave the

1083
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: example and you are perfect. President has this Odin Klay

1084
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: Thomas Klay Thompson is not a superstar, He's a star.

1085
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: I got backlash on that.

1086
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: I also said that uh Bam out of Bayu is

1087
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: not a star, he's a really good player, and everybody

1088
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: was arguing with me about it.

1089
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: It made a big old deal. I'm like, what are

1090
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: you talking like?

1091
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: You gotta understand.

1092
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: Superstar is Steph is Jiannis is bron that's a superstar, yo.

1093
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 7: Kids gotta be in different tiers. You gotta break him up.

1094
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 7: It doesn't it's not it's not disrespect to those guys.

1095
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 7: Just call him a star, right, No, but people, are

1096
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 7: you gotta talk about the top ten elite?

1097
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1098
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: People have gotten crazy with the stars and superstars. I

1099
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: think we throw star around a little bit too much. Yeah,

1100
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm at you. I have to hit people with the

1101
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: Nate Dunck hold up. All these people are not stars

1102
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: that y'all keep saying.

1103
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: The stars.

1104
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: They're really good, play really good. Thank you have that

1105
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: on deck, because I might just have a whole hold

1106
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: up segment here and just start going crazy on people

1107
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: about some stuff. All right, I want to come back

1108
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: to this. Jimmy Butler playing well, not a great game.

1109
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: One talked about it. By the way, we got to

1110
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 2: talk about this two free throws in an entire game.

1111
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: Touch on that.

1112
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 2: And also, if by some miracle chance, Olden the Heat

1113
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: pulled this off, would this be the least talented final

1114
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: winning team championship team that we've ever seen. We'll talk

1115
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: about that next Olden Polines coming Washington with you in

1116
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: on The Jonas Knox Show. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

1117
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: in the Fox Sports Radio Zone. Radio live from the

1118
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studio. Olden Polonies kelvin Washington with you.

1119
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: Olden Polonies won for him, came up live for me

1120
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: on social media, reach out to us. There is this

1121
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: called ska music or something like that. I say, all right, Sam,

1122
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: kind of this is the English beat, but this is

1123
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: like sky genre, right and that was that's that.

1124
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: It's like that.

1125
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, a little horn section, little kind of the guitarzl

1126
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 7: choppy there mirror in the bathroom by the English beat.

1127
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to them. The least singer died a

1128
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: few years years ago. Oh no, but now really shout

1129
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: out to him now. Yeah, I'm gonna stop nowfoar. I

1130
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: say something crazy, all right before we actually get into

1131
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: what I wanted to go back to the Heat and

1132
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler in this run they've had and if they

1133
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: messed around Nicola Jokic, I would say, twisted and ain't

1134
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: gonna wasn't himself not got hurt, hurt. I would never

1135
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: want to wish that on anybody. But you know, if

1136
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: he just something happened, he wasn't himself. Uh, And the

1137
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: Heat when I want to talk about what that be

1138
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: one of the more least talented teams we've had quite

1139
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: some time Before I get to that, though, I want

1140
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 2: to get to real quick.

1141
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: We were talking off fair little Victor Webbin Yama. That's it.

1142
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Seven foot twelve and I know that's not even the things,

1143
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: but he's like whatever he is. We spend ten feet eight.

1144
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: Everyone is excited. He's a new savior of San Antonio.

1145
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: Greg Papovich and the crew been taking for years to

1146
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: get this kid. Isn't it ironic that the team has

1147
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: had some of the better French players in the last

1148
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: couple of decades. Land this kid, this French kid. Your

1149
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: thoughts on him as a former big in the league,

1150
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: and again the old x NBA guys are Hayden, No,

1151
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: I'm not. I just do my homework, Okay. I don't

1152
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: get caught up in the moment. You know, I'm not

1153
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: a prisoner of the moment because I'm not going to

1154
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: be buying all this or he's the greatest talent ever.

1155
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: You ain't even seen him touch with Wilson basketball, and

1156
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's the greatest even No, he's

1157
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: a young man with a lot of skill sets and

1158
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: a lot of talent and a lot of length. But

1159
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: I've watched this kid play, and I've seen this already.

1160
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 2: I've seen Bowl Bowl, I've seen Chet Holmgren, I've seen

1161
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: Ralph Samson, Porzingo, I've seen Porzingis. I've seen this movie,

1162
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: and so to me, one of the things that really

1163
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: stood out for me was when he was playing against

1164
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: Kenneth Lofton, who was a two way player with the

1165
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies. Kenneth Lofton was destroying this kid, I mean destroyed.

1166
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: So I'm saying to myself, Okay, so if Kenny Laughton's

1167
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: doing this, what's Gianni's joker? Embid, what are those guys

1168
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: gonna do?

1169
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure he's gonna have some success because san

1170
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: Antonio is good on development. They are. But at the

1171
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 3: same time, let's hold the hyperbole of Oh my god,

1172
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. He's gonna supersed

1173
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: Lebron James. He's gonna stop that. We need to really

1174
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: stop with all this.

1175
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: Listen, the one thing I'm extraordinarily tired of is the

1176
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: whole this person's the next Lebron. Because I was telling

1177
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: you when you say that, It's like, do you know

1178
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: what you're encompassing when you say that? Like, we already

1179
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: did it with Jordan for too much? Right the Vince

1180
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: Carter Harrold Mine, We're just picking up players this next one.

1181
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, settled down, and now for somebody

1182
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: to be the next let I'm like, first of all,

1183
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: you're saying this person has to be amazing for twenty

1184
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: straight years, the bat off right out the gate amazing.

1185
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: You're saying that this player is capable of taking I

1186
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: don't want to disrespect and call them bumbs, but taking

1187
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: guys who your teams that are less than and taking

1188
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: them not just to the playoffs, not just to a

1189
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 2: conference final, but taking them to the finals and in

1190
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 2: some cases even winning with guys.

1191
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 3: You're like, uh, how they do that?

1192
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: Like you're saying a whole lot. So I don't like

1193
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: how we continue to set guys up. And I'll even

1194
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: be critical of somebody who I'm a massive fan of

1195
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: the person, the player everything. Magic Johnson remember when he

1196
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: was when the Lakers drafted DiAngelo Russell and they draft

1197
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: the lines of Bard.

1198
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 4: He's like, Oh, they're gonna replace my stats and.

1199
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: Be all this.

1200
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, Magic, do you know how good you are?

1201
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: Like, let's just settle down saying that somebody's about to

1202
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: be the next you and just replace all your stats,

1203
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: Like let's stop building these guys up, especially old. Then

1204
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: you can attest to this. It's a different era where

1205
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: guys are coming in incredibly young. They don't know how

1206
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: to play the game. They're talented, they've got their own

1207
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: personal trainers nowadays, and they're coming in with maybe a

1208
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: better handle, coming in with maybe a better form of

1209
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: a shot, but they don't know how to play basketball yet.

1210
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 4: They don't know how to win yet.

1211
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 3: But I do know there's so thirty games over there

1212
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: in one season, he's about to play three times that

1213
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: that's a great point. So it's absurd when we make

1214
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 3: these statements. And I don't know if it's coming from

1215
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: the scouts, if it's coming from media, from who, but

1216
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: it's like people need to relax and all this stuff, okay,

1217
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 3: and you're putting so much undue pressure on the kid. Yes,

1218
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm the only thing I can say is I have

1219
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: not seen anybody seven five, seven six, okay do what

1220
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: he's doing, only because he's seven five I've seen it

1221
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: done at seven four. I've seen it done at seven three,

1222
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 3: So that's it. Chet Homgrim is only an inch or

1223
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: two shorter than him, and he handles, he shoots threes.

1224
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. They tried to make bow bowl

1225
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: that guy. Even Ralph Sampson when he was coming out,

1226
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, we're not gonna let you handle the ball.

1227
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: And he was way ahead of his time. He could

1228
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: handle the ball and shoot him out side, but they

1229
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: said no, getting the low pluck and play post up basketball.

1230
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: And so again I wish the young man well, but

1231
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: let's not get carried away.

1232
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: One thing I think is getting you could say carried away,

1233
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: is we're starting to have the stars from around the

1234
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: world are taking over the NBA. And there's always been

1235
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: the case where the NBA has had, you know, stars

1236
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: from different countries.

1237
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: That's just one of the it's been more of a

1238
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: it's not like the.

1239
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: NFL where everybody's just about American born like ninety eight

1240
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: point right exactly, probably more higher than that. But you know,

1241
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: now you look at it, I mean, you starting if

1242
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: Victor just the hype alone, let's say he never even

1243
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: lives up to but just the hype alone, he's gonna

1244
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: be one of the more talked about players next year.

1245
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: And he is.

1246
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: You know, he got a French player, you got Serbian,

1247
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: you got with with jok and and obviously Luca and

1248
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: and embiid Is. You know, obviously he played some college

1249
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: here in book Cameroon.

1250
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you get.

1251
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: Yannis Greece definitely the world stage. I mean you can

1252
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: go back.

1253
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: I mean technically was born overseas. Yeah, technically technically, Ben

1254
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: Simmons stress, we know we talk about guys in the NBA. Oh,

1255
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: then we talked about guys who are in the NBA.

1256
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: You mean guys that are playing and I don't know

1257
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 3: they're gonna be in bro I don't even know. But yeah,

1258
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: you got who else is it's a couple of Canadian Andrew,

1259
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 3: those guys, Pascal, you have all the guys from Africa.

1260
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: So it's but you know who you got to give

1261
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: credit to for that?

1262
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 4: The Dream Team?

1263
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean they were already there. Hubie Brown, well,

1264
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: what else?

1265
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the bible of Hubie Brown was going

1266
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: overseas teaching fundamentals and they embraced it. That's why they

1267
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: much more adapt now at fundamentally because the knock on

1268
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: the European players where they weren't physically tough. They were

1269
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: soft and to me and I used to be thinking

1270
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: to myself, you know how much of a trash statement

1271
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: that is? Right, these guys are dodging missiles, that's a

1272
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: great point on a regular basis ole dodging bullets, missiles.

1273
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: Launched at their homes and they're not tough. I was like,

1274
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: come on, I never bought into all that stuff. And

1275
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: now they coming in starting to play professional at thirteen

1276
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: and fourteen years old, so they ready to go at sixteen. Yeah,

1277
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: so that's why I'm saying, like with when but Yama

1278
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: he started playing professional young? I get that, but we

1279
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: just got to hold up on the extras.

1280
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: We were putting a little extra, little chip on the

1281
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: little dip on the chippy right now, because again, he's

1282
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: the next Lebron, He's the next time.

1283
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, no, the greatest to ever come

1284
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: into the league ever, is what they're saying.

1285
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're getting carried away with that, ever, and that

1286
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: to be you, I know, he's just sitting the hello.

1287
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean, not like we didn't have a guy changed

1288
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: all of college basketball in Kareem, I mean lu Al Sindor,

1289
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 3: Like we didn't have the greatest champion ever in Bill Russell,

1290
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 3: the greatest pomp upon athlete in world, Chamblain, the greatest

1291
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: marketing entity ever, Michael Jordan, like we've never had that,

1292
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: the greatest come out of high school play ever Lebron James.

1293
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't even the hype with Victor Women. I don't

1294
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: even feel like it's surpassed Zion, Remember, like, who doesn't

1295
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: even surpass.

1296
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 4: Like I'm like everybody's like he's the most talking about prospect.

1297
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, I feel like Zion I remember, Like

1298
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 4: That's what I mean.

1299
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I gotta sit down with the other.

1300
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: This another one that's probably never gonna play again. My goodness.

1301
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: He somehows maybe not escaping it now, but it's getting

1302
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: to the point of a Zaya like we we're gonna

1303
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: need you to come on out here and play and perform.

1304
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: Brother, Uh, I gotta say go ahead. The funniest thing

1305
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: was what Charles Barkley said. What did he say acting

1306
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: like they don't have restaurants in Portland when they sent

1307
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: him up the true but but that Cajun food. It

1308
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: does a man has a thing about eating. That's what

1309
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: needs to be addressed first and foremost. I mean, you

1310
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: put me down in New Orleans. I'm a whole different

1311
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 3: player too. I get that me too, man, But at

1312
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: some point in time, what's more important the eating or

1313
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: your career? Don't ask me right now? Oh today? Oh?

1314
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 3: Then you see what I got sitting right here. I'm hungry.

1315
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: I ain't got but a couple of crackers. Don't ask

1316
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: me right now.

1317
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: That's a bad question to ask me right now because

1318
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, my priorities will be all out of.

1319
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: Ryan Flake, tell us what's training?

1320
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: So we come back and talk about are the Heat

1321
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: possibly the least talent team to be in Fine?

1322
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 6: You got it, Kelvin and old and so speaking of

1323
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 6: the Heat. Actually, just moments ago, their head coach Eric

1324
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 6: Spolstra was talking to the media and was asked about

1325
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 6: the status or we're going to know about Tyler Herrow.

1326
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 6: Will he be back in time for tomorrow in game

1327
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 6: two dealing with that injury to his right hand, and

1328
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 6: Spolster said the status has not changed yet and he will.

1329
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 8: Let everybody know by tomorrow.

1330
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 6: So nothing that is no news news if you want

1331
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 6: to categorize it as that as the team looks to

1332
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 6: have Hero back in the lineup after did not get

1333
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 6: him and his services for Game one and that win

1334
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 6: for the Nuggets over the Heat one to four to

1335
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 6: ninety three in Denver, NBA. For Julius Randall had surgery

1336
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 6: on his left ankle. The team says that don't or

1337
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 6: it's not going to affect his presence for the knickt

1338
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 6: training camp coming up in the fall. Former Yukon head

1339
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 6: coach Kevin Ollie, who I was a former NBA player,

1340
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 6: won the national title as the coach for the Huskies

1341
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 6: in twenty fourteen, is going to be joining the.

1342
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 8: Nets coaching staff.

1343
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 6: Josh Erris, who agreed on a deal to purchase the

1344
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 6: Washington Commanders about a month ago, hoping that this is

1345
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 6: the next step in getting the team under his ownership.

1346
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 6: He's going to be meeting, according to ESPN, with the

1347
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 6: NFL Finance Committee on Wednesday, which then could open the

1348
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 6: door to a final vote by NFL owners that could

1349
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 6: then sign off on this transaction. Game one of the

1350
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 6: Stanley Cup Final getting underway tonight in Vegas. Puck will

1351
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 6: be dropping at eight pm Eastern time. The Vegas Golden Night,

1352
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 6: second time they've been in the Stanley Cup Final as

1353
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 6: they take on the Florida Panthers in the best of

1354
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 6: seven series.

1355
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 8: Major League Baseball, two games of note are going on

1356
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 8: right now.

1357
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 6: The Red Sox have scored seven unanswered and they have

1358
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 6: taken a lead at home against the Race seven to

1359
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 6: four in the top of the seventh in a battle

1360
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 6: out of the Al East. And the Tigers in a

1361
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 6: White Sox just wrapped up the fifth and the White

1362
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 6: Sox you're owning a one to nothing lead. Lastly, guys,

1363
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 6: we do have some golf going on, and it is

1364
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 6: the Memorial Tournament third round taking place in Dublin, Ohio.

1365
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 6: And the leader right now is and we're looking through

1366
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 6: it right now as we speak. We do have a

1367
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 6: DECKI Matziyama as real leader guest there It is nine under.

1368
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 6: He's got a two shot edge and Patrick Cantlay is

1369
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 6: two shots behind as they're finishing up that front nine.

1370
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 8: With that, let's get it back to Kelvin Washington. Olden Police.

1371
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 8: Maybe they're good golfers. You guys play, yes, I do.

1372
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: Man, you can tell, like which one of us is

1373
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: runn around a six year old a four year old

1374
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: intew I'm over here, like, really, tell me more.

1375
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 3: I love golf. Oh, a bad day on the course

1376
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: is still better than any day I could have.

1377
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 4: Honestly, Brian, that's a great question.

1378
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: I've been sitting next to this man for an hour

1379
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: and a half and the joy in his eyes when

1380
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: you just brought up golf.

1381
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 4: I have not seen this entire time.

1382
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: To you, brother, Oh my god, it's okay. When did

1383
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: you get this? This was just during the playing days. Yeah,

1384
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: I was playing.

1385
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: We used to do trips, you know, player trips for

1386
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: when you were like player reps and all that stuff.

1387
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 3: I became player rep my rookie year just to get

1388
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 3: a free trip. That's how it started. And I kind

1389
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: of liked and then I care, and so we went.

1390
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: We went in Hawaii, and so these guys are talking about, Yeah, man,

1391
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 3: we're playing this golf course called Kapalua. I ain't know

1392
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: nothing about. I know, Capallua being one of the best

1393
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: golf courses ever. They're like, come on, come hang out

1394
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: with us. I was like, okay, I just went to

1395
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 3: hang out and next thing I know, they give me

1396
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 3: a set of clubs. Hey man, just to have it

1397
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 3: you know, try. I'm horrible first time. I don't know

1398
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: I play, and the clubs aren't even mine. So I'm

1399
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 3: just whacking away, whacking away, and then I remember the

1400
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 3: last hole. I'm so frustrated. The last hole. I hit

1401
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: a good drive and my second shot, which was a fire,

1402
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: and I put in the hole. Oh, looked ever since,

1403
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: ever since I went, I came home. But clubs got lessons.

1404
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 3: Oh it's been that way since. Man. That was what

1405
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety four, ninety five, somewhere around there. Oh.

1406
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 4: I want to love the game, man. I just the

1407
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 4: way my life is set up, the way my bank accounts.

1408
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: I kept having kids, and then the wife decided to

1409
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: keep being ambitious. And I've been in there a lot

1410
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: of school and all that, and I'm just brother, ain't

1411
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: got time. And so I get out there and I

1412
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: have an instructor. Shout to my coach Mike, and he's always,

1413
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: you know, like, all right, man, you gotta get you

1414
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: outed with more. You gotta making a progress, but you

1415
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: got to get out there and put it to performance.

1416
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: You gotta practice, you gotta. And I'm like, bro, I'll

1417
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: just see you in three months. It's the greatest thing

1418
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: you can play. I swear to you because it teaches

1419
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: you about life. Oh look at that. I thought basketball

1420
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: taught me about Like I used to say. You take

1421
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: me on the coach, put me on the court with

1422
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: any human and I'll tell you what the type of

1423
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: person they are by how they play.

1424
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 3: No golf now, because you've gotta be honest. You can't cheat,

1425
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 3: that is true, Okay. Left is right, right is left,

1426
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: up is down, down is up. Yeah, weather comes into play. True,

1427
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: your emotions, physical, mental, everything. Man, it's all encompassing. It

1428
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 3: is absurd how this relates to life. So here's the thing, though.

1429
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: You know I told you I'm like a practicing entertainment

1430
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: lawyer just through my wife. I might as well just

1431
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 3: be your agent and get you on the golf channel. Bro,

1432
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 3: get me on.

1433
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: I mean you the joy that it just came you

1434
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: right now telling these people man, but you know they

1435
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: don't want to listen to me. Now we have to

1436
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: get a brother on there. Hey, I hate do we

1437
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: talked about earlier. If you make any professional league, you

1438
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: have the utmost respect for me because all of us

1439
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: grew up being kids, and I'm gonna play baseball, basketball, bowling, golf,

1440
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: whatever it is.

1441
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 3: I want to be a pro.

1442
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: And obviously ninety nine percent of us don't do it.

1443
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: And then the great fortunate like yourself, who do you

1444
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 2: know the most respect. But there are certain times where

1445
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: you can say that team is just not particularly the

1446
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: most talented team, or have the most talent on the team,

1447
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 2: or you know, you got guys that are all stars,

1448
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: all the NBA caliber, And you look at this Heat

1449
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: team and it is actually an amazing feat to just

1450
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: simply be there.

1451
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1452
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: They play very well, they're in a great system, you

1453
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: have a great coach, they have a great president of

1454
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: basketball operation, even a great owner over down there in Miami.

1455
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: But you look at this roster and you're like, man,

1456
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: it is a bit underwhelming. Yes it is, and you

1457
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: gotta give credit. I look at this team. Jimmy Butler,

1458
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: by the way, game one not great, thirteen seven and

1459
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 2: seven Bam out of BAYU play well twenty six thirteen.

1460
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to play well because the way if

1461
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: you watch the game, they're sagging off of him.

1462
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna have to make shots. He's gonna have

1463
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 4: to make the joker shot.

1464
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, he played really well that game.

1465
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 2: But After that, you got gay Vincent nineteen and Highsmith

1466
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: of eighteen, but three from Martin zero from Strus Kyle Lowry,

1467
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he gave you eleven. That's a BYuT what

1468
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: you need from him. But you got Cody Zeller zero.

1469
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: You didn't get anything from Kevin Love and just Duncan

1470
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: Robinson gave you three. He didn't play, but that's what

1471
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't even play. You got Duncan Robinson

1472
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: only giving you three. This team does not beat you

1473
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: over the head with talent, and if they're able to

1474
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: even win two games, it's kind of like, that's kind

1475
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: of and I know they would hate to say it

1476
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: because I'm sure they have pride. They're they're looking at us.

1477
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 2: We're here, We're here for a reason.

1478
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: But man, you remember the two thousand and three, two

1479
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: thousand and four Detroit Pistons.

1480
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: Now, of course I remember, being the biggest fan of them.

1481
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: But I'm watching with a little hesitation where you're going

1482
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: with this.

1483
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying you talk about teams that now, No,

1484
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 3: chaun c. Billups was damnar out the league.

1485
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 4: Agreed until the year prior, Man.

1486
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 3: Wallace was damnar out the league. Remember he was trash,

1487
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 3: and I agree, but Rip was a real player. Rip

1488
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 3: was what they only played. So between Rip Hamilton and

1489
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 3: Jimmy bra Wallace. Okay, mister hothead, Okay, I'll give you that. Okay,

1490
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 3: don't do that.

1491
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: Come on, they say they were the best five alive,

1492
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I can think of a

1493
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: better starting five.

1494
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 3: The team they beat, come on, now fall Hall of Famous.

1495
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and they got destroyed. That you know, it's funny.

1496
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: I look at that Pistons team similarly to the Denver

1497
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 2: Nuggets and that it's about putting all of them in

1498
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: their prime. No, obviously didn't have a yo kitsch. But

1499
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: what I mean is Rip found his lane, found what

1500
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: he was great at. Larry Brown made the absolute best

1501
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: version of Chauncey Billups as a point guard. Rashid was

1502
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: playing some of his best just you know, defensively and

1503
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: understanding the system. Ben Wallace obviously at his apex like

1504
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: they were the prime. It's not that they were the

1505
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: overly the most talented. They had a way of playing

1506
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: and they were all the but they were more nug

1507
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Okay, if Jimmy Butler is the

1508
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: the Rip or the then that Heat team does this man,

1509
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: bam Adebayo is way better than freaking Ben Wallace. Come on,

1510
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: oh my lord, offensively, but that doesn't mean anything if

1511
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 2: you're not offensively. Yes, for sure, Bambio is better offensively,

1512
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: but bam out of Bayu is nowhere near as great

1513
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: or has the impact that Ben Wallace had on the game.

1514
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: You know that he should.

1515
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 4: Now now we can argue that, I will. I mean,

1516
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 4: we can agree on that.

1517
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,919
Speaker 3: And that's where Miami has issues and that's where Boston

1518
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 3: has issues. A lot of these guys don't play till

1519
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 3: their full potentials. They are relying on what they're hearing,

1520
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh you're an All Star, You're this, you're that, Oh

1521
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 3: you're the man, instead of just going out there and playing.

1522
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 3: That was the difference. Bean Wallace was still trying to

1523
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 3: earn his keep, and a lot of these young guys

1524
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 3: now it's like I'm in the MB, I'm in All Star,

1525
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm making stupid money. I've made it, so now I

1526
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 3: don't have to work anymore, and and you're gonna have

1527
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 3: teams and the Dema Nuggets. They're like, well, we've made it,

1528
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 3: we have money. We all stars. With defensive you know

1529
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: with MVPs, but we're still working hard, still hungry. We're

1530
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: still hungry again.

1531
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 2: And that's why I think when you watch this Nuggets team,

1532
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: you're realizing, Man, you ran up on a team where

1533
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: you have an MVP caliber player, probably an MVP caliber

1534
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: for the next five years in his prime.

1535
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray coming back for injury in his prime.

1536
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon playing the best basketball we've ever seen KCP,

1537
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: a champion knows how exactly what to do, still in

1538
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: his prime for another couple of years. Bruce Brown, and

1539
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: it's probably all these guys in their prime hungry, some

1540
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: of them counted out and down it.

1541
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, it's gonna be a very difficult team

1542
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 4: to beat.

1543
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 3: I like that young boy, Christian Brown. They got him

1544
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: just sitting on the bench. I like him. He coming

1545
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 3: in and ready to dunk on somebody. I like him. Man,

1546
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: he comes in, he's he's such a talent, you know.

1547
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 3: And that's the beauty of it. A lot of these guys,

1548
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: you know, you know these players because they played in college.

1549
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you what it's college, Yeah, because you don't

1550
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 2: remember the relationship.

1551
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: It ain't the same no more. Yeah, So it's like

1552
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: I get to know you and so, and you learn

1553
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 3: how to play the game and so to me, Man,

1554
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: I love what they do and so, and it's a

1555
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: copycat league. Watch everybody's going to try to get like

1556
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: the Denver Nuts. Everybody tried with the Warriors. Oh boy,

1557
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: did what they did? We had this, but now watch

1558
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 3: the big man's gonna come back because.

1559
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: Of well, let me let me ask you this, man,

1560
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: I mean, my gosh, are you excited for the thirty

1561
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: for thirty when it talks about.

1562
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 3: He came in. He's the greatest shooter.

1563
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 4: We've ever seen, Champion MVB, but he also.

1564
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 3: Ruined the games.

1565
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: What if I told you that you can be the

1566
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: best shooter and also be responsible for the poor basketball

1567
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 2: we see?

1568
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 3: Now Steph didn't do it, not, but you know what

1569
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean thinking that they were.

1570
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: Step my gosh, between Steph Curry doing it in such

1571
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: a fashionable way and then obviously Klay Thompson the splash

1572
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: brother splash he did and it took her credit Kenny

1573
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: Smith and not on th team today, I say, a

1574
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: separate listen. And then you have the analytics that combination

1575
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: was deadly and detrimental to our game. Man, I said

1576
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: our game like I played our game, but the game

1577
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: that I love hold it. It's all game like Steph

1578
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: made everybody. If you and you you you've seen these

1579
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: young players, if you go do I called. I coached

1580
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: my daughter's team. She was five at the time. She's

1581
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 2: six and a half. Now, kids who are literally six

1582
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 2: are coming down jacking two steps past half court.

1583
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 3: And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All day. I'm like,

1584
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 3: you barely can't even reach the ring.

1585
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 2: Right, and they're I mean the well every bit of

1586
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: their might swinging yeah, And I'm like, oh my god.

1587
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: So I don't I blame Steph tongue in cheek, but

1588
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, between him and all of a

1589
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: sudden the analytics, it hurt the game. But you are

1590
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: gonna play coach slash GM But mainly coach. You're gonna

1591
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: sell me on how the Heat can win Game two

1592
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: if at all there's a chance you're gonna break that

1593
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: down for us next again, we of course, uh we're here.

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01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,960
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1595
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1596
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1597
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1598
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1599
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1604
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1605
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1606
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,759
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Speaker 2: are we doing the progressive player of the day at

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Speaker 2: the end of the show, when't we doing that?

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01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 9: Truck out a pat and walking back and there's a

1612
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 9: shot to left and deep headed towards the Dodger bullpen.

1613
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 9: It's car, Bookie bench is on a tear. This is

1614
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 9: the second home run of the night and the Dodgers

1615
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 9: now have an eight to two lead.

1616
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 3: We really have to do that.

1617
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 4: My bad, I didn't mean, I mean I listen, I'm

1618
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 4: just doing what's on the rundown here.

1619
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 3: We really had to replay that.

1620
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Speaker 2: Yes, that was a Dodgers Radio network right there. Brought

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Speaker 2: Progressive dot com. Yes, the Yankees got smacked up. Kershaw

1627
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: Cursel got his first career win against the Yankees. By

1628
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: the way, he's been around so long, you think he'd

1629
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: have that. But he got his first career win against

1630
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 2: the Yankees. Mookie Betts gets a couple of home runs.

1631
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: Olden police is looking at me like I'm crazy, Like,

1632
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: would you shut up about it? You got two more

1633
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 2: chances to get a win. Uh, but coach me up

1634
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: with heat. I don't want to skame one. We We

1635
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: didn't look great. We fought hard, which is kind of

1636
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: our makeup. Jimmy Butler only hits thirteen. You don't get

1637
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: anything from a couple other players that you expected to

1638
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: get things from. Bam was really the only really good

1639
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: player of that game. What do we do, coach? How

1640
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 2: do we even this thing up? It's not gonna happen.

1641
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: First of all, Coach, you can't tell us that, Yeah, guys,

1642
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: we just got sucked up. Man, We're not as good

1643
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: as these guys. I don't want to give it up

1644
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: because I want Denver to win, Okay, I want to

1645
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: bring back the big guy.

1646
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we'll tell me more about that thing.

1647
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: At the same time, I do believe well knocking down shots.

1648
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's a fifty to fifty proposition. You know,

1649
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: Strus had wide open shots did this, So I'm gonna

1650
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 3: like just reinforce them. Hey you're shooter, keep shooting, you know.

1651
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 3: But again, even if he makes these shots, I still

1652
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 3: believe that Denver Shill some much better team because I

1653
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: don't think they can defend Denver. That's the key. They

1654
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 3: just can't defend them, I mean, and there's so many mismatches.

1655
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: I mean right now, obviously you're missing a guy who

1656
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: can get you twenty a game in Tyler Hero. That's huge, right,

1657
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: because sometimes heat historically the last seven eight years, they

1658
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 2: go on these droughts where they can't really score. They'll

1659
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: defend you well, but they can't score. Tyler, here is

1660
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: a guy who can get a bucket in the system.

1661
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: Or on his own. Yeah, you need that, definitely. They

1662
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 3: don't have that.

1663
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: But one thing Denver is doing and it does not

1664
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: help if you're the heat having a guy who's seven

1665
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: foot whatever Yokic is, who is just looking over the

1666
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 2: defense finding the missman. Let's see, Oh Aaron Gordon has

1667
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 2: a you know, a mouse in the house. Gay Vincent's

1668
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 2: on him. Let's just dump it down to him and

1669
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: he dunk on him. Oh okay, Jamal Murray, I noticed

1670
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 2: last time they went under on the pick. All right, cool,

1671
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: this time I'm just backdoor you. And then you know,

1672
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: he's just like dissecting it. He's playing incredible basketball right now.

1673
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: And again they're just in their primate hungry. But I

1674
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: do think to your point, Heat, hit a few shots early,

1675
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: hit a few big threes, get into it. It's still

1676
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: gonna play hard and defensively, you never know when it

1677
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: starts to you know, because that changes how I have

1678
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 2: to defend you. Now, maybe they're over pursuing the defensive

1679
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: on the three point line and they get some back cuts.

1680
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: But Jimmy Butler, you said it earlier, Jimmy Butler can't

1681
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 2: just play better and have like twenty two points Jimmy

1682
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 2: Butler's gotta have like a thirty five point night, thirty

1683
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: five to forty.

1684
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, it's just that

1685
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 3: Denver is gonna win the cis whether it's a sweep,

1686
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 3: a gentleman's sweep, a six seven, whatever the numbers are, seven,

1687
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna yeah, it's they gonna win. They just that

1688
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 3: much better. Yeah, Denver is the obviously the better team.

1689
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,919
Speaker 2: And what mainly interesting is gonna be, not to forecast

1690
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 2: too far, but just will this team be a team

1691
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: now that have a nice four or five year run.

1692
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: Their two stars are in their primes and young. All right,

1693
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, we're out of here. Enjoy the weekend.