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Speaker 1: it is me Sam Um. Uh. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: We're taking a break from our break UM, which is

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Speaker 1: beloved favorite podcasts called Celebrity book Club, hosted by past

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Speaker 1: XO x O Sam. This is a headgun podcast. Who's

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Speaker 1: out I'm really and we read celebrity memoirs so you

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Speaker 1: reading Setting the Table by Danny Meyer. Danny Meyer, of course,

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Speaker 1: your like hungry. Maybe daddy would spank or something. I

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Speaker 1: feel like daddy was a spanker and that wasn't mentioned,

427
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Speaker 1: but like so his dad was a big drinking St.

428
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Speaker 1: Louis Hotel the Edge, which is very mayweest right pap artists,

429
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: so maywst. And his businesses were also like that of

430
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: like a throwaway nineteen fifties, like slapstick comedy, like couldn't

431
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: you see like a movie like in nineties seven, he

432
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: ran a business for tours to Italy four people who

433
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: worked in the airline industry, and it's someone like getting

434
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 1: in a total mix up for something like he was

435
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: just catering to like flight attendants and pilots who were

436
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: like on shore leave or whatever you get from PanAm

437
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: and then they come to Rome and want to take

438
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: like a seven day restaurant tour and he like charters

439
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: a bus for all these flight attendants and he finds

440
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: like all these tratarias and takes them to it. I mean,

441
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: great idea sure before the internet, right, please you needed well?

442
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: And this is back to that point that we're always making.

443
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: I think that it's just like before the internet, just

444
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: like you could just like any random business. Well yeah,

445
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: and it's like as we were saying, and like all

446
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: these and as people who like as Danny Meyer was like,

447
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then I like got so rich in

448
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: sales when I was twenty three, he graduated a million

449
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: dollar earner for like this random software what was it called,

450
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: like soft bank? Yeah, like soft Bank, And he was like,

451
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: and I was their best damn salesman on the team.

452
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: And hell I was making like I had to take

453
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Speaker 1: a pay cut when I worked at un Square Cafe,

454
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: and it's just like that was so brave of you

455
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: to take that pay cut. I mean it's very just

456
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: like classic. I think rich could obviously been like following dreams,

457
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: being like you know what, no, I will stop making

458
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: a million dollars so I can open a restaurant and

459
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: that is that. But he was I also I feel

460
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: like his childhood was very mind because his parents were

461
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: very just like taking him out of school for a

462
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: week because they had to go to like stop on vacation.

463
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: So I really felt like I was the Alps, like

464
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, um, Danny is going to be missing seven days.

465
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: I really felt in the beginning that I was like

466
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: reading about your family. And that's why I think I

467
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: really like God in there, because it was like about

468
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: like so many vacations and just like they were always

469
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: going to like the Belmont horse Races for seven weeks

470
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: and just being like and I went with Daddy to

471
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: the races every day. And then that's what I learned

472
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: how to order oysters Rockefeller Celebrity Book Club Club. So

473
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Speaker 1: I have a passage here from one of the vacations

474
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Speaker 1: they took as children to Europe. This book is also

475
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: I would say maybe the first third of this book,

476
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: it's simply listing things, just listing restaurants. It's listing restaurants

477
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: in Italy, it's listing restaurants in France, and food. They

478
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Speaker 1: had a restaurant listening wines from particular vineyards that they

479
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: had at different restaurants in France on their trip to Italy. Okay,

480
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 1: so this is like part of him falling in love

481
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: with the concept of food. My parents took vacations alone

482
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: together at least twice a year. Oh, this is also

483
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: so my parents, just like Daddy and I are, We're

484
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Speaker 1: going to go to France for a week and a

485
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: half and our Maide, We'll take care of you. I

486
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: did not grow up with this sling. No, I would

487
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: never say that you had an indentured nanny who lived

488
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: in like a very small room in our house. We

489
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: have to just take all one quick minute to talk

490
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: about um. She even had a host of nanny's one

491
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: who ran a very early internet camming site. Yes, I

492
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: had a nanny who made her website was called wild

493
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: Child with Wild and it was like her like solo site.

494
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: And she was a big girl. And she was kind

495
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: of like one of I don't know if want of

496
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: first big girls, but I'm sure there's been big girls

497
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: before her. But she was like conic. She had a

498
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: Florida Florida Celientory Amos poster. She took me to c

499
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: Blue Man group. She was friends with Marilyn Manson. Friends

500
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: with Marilyn Manson. Yeah, she would always call him Brian.

501
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: She'd be like, oh, Brian, and your brother like discovered

502
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: for like her massive digital camera with all of her

503
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: I never knew. I found out way later and I

504
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: was totally scarred. Were you really scarred? No? I was

505
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: just like what it was just so many year. I

506
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: was twelve at the time. I mean, I think that's

507
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: I'm always like, did your brotherhood up with her? Like?

508
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: I think it definitely defined his sexuality for sure, because

509
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: he's definitely like into that type of girl and it's

510
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: like such a horny little freak. Okay, anyway back to

511
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: her passage. Um, my parents took vacations alone together at

512
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: least twice a year and with us into another three

513
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: times year, so that's five vacations. The Christmas and Easter

514
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: vacations were often spent in Florida, in or around Miami,

515
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: where my dad could be within striking distance of high

516
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: at or golf stream parks that he could bet on

517
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: the daily double gamble at every summer in minto family

518
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: vacation after three weeks. We went to California when I

519
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: was six. PC Banders's and Solvang and sourdough bread and

520
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Abylonia at Fisherman's Wharf made an indelible impression. We went

521
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: to France when I was seven. Everything made an impression.

522
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: The hot chocolate at breakfast so bitter of that needed

523
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: two tuns of sugar, the yeasty bag as, the sour

524
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: creme fresh, and the salty deep yellow better. We went

525
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: to New England when I was eight fried to switch clams,

526
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: lobster rolls, drawn butter, creamy clam chowder and Golden Indian pudding.

527
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Golden Indian pudding. It's like a tomb pudding. Is that

528
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: a New England delicacy? I feel like that feels very

529
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: like a Native American like tradition, But I don't know

530
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: about that, and I feel like he's what I really

531
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: related to him talking about how when he would go

532
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: to other people's houses, like not on vacation, that was

533
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: like his other food travels, which was very me like

534
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: because like when you're a kid, were always like so

535
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: like shocked, but like what other kids have that like

536
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: your parents didn't have because you've never known another world

537
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: and your parents exactly. So it's like he would go

538
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: over and be like, you guys use a different kind

539
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: of mayor you guys use like this barbecue sauce. And

540
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: he was always like being so mean, like reviewing Mayo's

541
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: and sauces. I was. I remember my mom, My mother

542
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: grew up pretty paw and then you know Los Angeles

543
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: and her parents were just like so fifties and like

544
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: spam only and just like canned corn, and she talked

545
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: about going to their neighbors that hangs who served her

546
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: pizza for the first time and she was like so

547
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: shocked by it. And my mom she didn't have pasta

548
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: until she was like thirteen because she grew up in

549
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: a very small town and up standing arc and she

550
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: was shocked by it. She also talks about going to

551
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: my father who grew up Tally And and the Bronx,

552
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: going to his his parents house for Thanksgiving and it

553
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: was like she was like, I was so shocked, and

554
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: it was so just like eight hundred meatballs like before

555
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: the turkey, and like and then after we were done

556
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: eating like all of the meatballs in the turkey, we

557
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: went over to like someone else's house for just like

558
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: a salami dessert. Um. Okay. This next list is his

559
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: first day with Audrey. Okay. So the rom com that

560
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: is his romance with his wife. I mean it starts

561
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: out it's they work at the same restaurant and they're

562
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: like running into each other in Floridane and they're always

563
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: like climbing upstairs and going to the basement and kind

564
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: of like running into each other, and everyone's kind of

565
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: talking about at the restaurant. This part is actually way

566
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: more a Hathaway than Kate Hudson. Yeah, it's I mean,

567
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I would even say it's like more nineties. It could

568
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: even be just like like a Julia Roberts movie, not

569
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: even Ann Hathaway. And he's like, you know, it's not working.

570
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: But it's like he's a Richard gear type in there,

571
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: or he's like a young Roubert's a prostitute. Okay, sorry,

572
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: she's a young Robert Downey Jr. This is a main

573
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: of movie. She's Julia Robert Um. Debbie Maysar is like

574
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: her sassy friends. He was just like, so on the

575
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: hell is he can ask you out? She's like, it's

576
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: so fo h oh. So before we talked about this,

577
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: should I drop? So? Do you realize that my first

578
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: ever lover worked at Gradmacy Tavern? Wait, and that's why

579
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: she met her husband? Yeah? My jaw is on the floor.

580
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like that also probably gave me my

581
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: route of kind of Joanne, Joanne, you lost your virgin

582
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: and you too in Chicago in college. Yes, when I

583
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: still five. Anyway, it was not fall, it was fall

584
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: as Halloween because then I the next time I had

585
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: sex was the next time. I mean and I was

586
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: like having sex annually. Um wait, that's so insane. You

587
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: beat me by so many months. Well, I think you've

588
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: definitely and Steven has surpassed me by millions. I think

589
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: what they headed for split spell Well, no, no, no,

590
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: I think they like when they both were working at

591
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Gramercy to have hen like there was drama. Now they're

592
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: like happily Mary and the same way Danny Meyer met

593
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: his wife. Yeah, they were surely not a day restaurant.

594
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: He was chef like a sue and she was in

595
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: the pastry department. Okay, women are always in the pastry. Well,

596
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: I think that's like a sexism where it's like it's

597
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: hard to get and I see it like women I

598
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: think are taught that they're like just for pot they're

599
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: baking and right, kitchen is so like yes, chef and

600
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: you're jerking off into like you know, like shopping, and

601
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: women are like molding dough, right, even though it's like

602
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: women are supposed to be cooks, but it's like more

603
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: manly for like because like so many of the biggest

604
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: pastry Christina to you know, are women that woman that

605
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: convented but this person who like convented Gelato Nancy something whatever.

606
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: She's like a famous gelattoist. And see this is where

607
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: it's restaurant tourds A square. May please just read the

608
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: passage about their first date. Well, now we have this

609
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: context of Joanne and her husband, I'm sure okay. We

610
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: started with drinks at the Algonquin Hotel, barely made the

611
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: curtain for noises off at the brook Atkinson Theater on Broadway,

612
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: took a cab down to Tribecca for dinner at the Odeon,

613
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: then perhaps the liveliest and most delicious late night dining

614
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: spots south of Canal Street. Sauntered over to le Zinc

615
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: for after dinner drinks, and walked all the way up

616
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: to the West Village for more drinks and conversation that

617
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: another late favorite restaurant, Texarcana. We me entered up to

618
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: Audrey's apartment on twenty second Street, which was across the

619
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: street from Pasca, where we listened to tapes of her

620
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: singing Broadway tunes and talked until four in the morning.

621
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: At that point I took a cab up to my

622
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: own place. I was to at work at the restaurant

623
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: in just a few hours. I got just enough exuberant

624
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: sleep to have the wherewithal to write a thank you card.

625
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: My mother's lessons were at last Paine use for life dividends,

626
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: which Audrey found slipped under her door when she woke

627
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: up later. That asolutely insane? Is that to write thank

628
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: you card? Yeah? That is cute. That is ebsolents actually cute.

629
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Who would do because to take the time and you

630
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: know he's putting his cards on the okay, But what

631
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: is a little weird is that he went home and

632
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: then came back to her apartment secretly to slip it

633
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: under her door. Well, this is what's so New York

634
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: and Grammarcy where everyone's just like a five minute walk

635
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: away its TV show where people are people are meeting

636
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: at our favorite thing. But I'm just like, I don't know.

637
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: I guess if someone did that to me, I would

638
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: think was the cutest thing ever, But I would also

639
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: be super creeping. Thing was slipped under mine? Yeah that

640
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: you talked later and then you're when did you come by?

641
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: Like you went home at three then came back at

642
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: eight to Ridgewood and put this Well again, imagine if

643
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: like you were on a date and you lived on

644
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: twenty third in Madison, and the guy lived on Lex Okay, yeah,

645
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: I know. I was just like hearing about that date.

646
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: It's like that is why that is the movie, because

647
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: after he leaves, the girl just says like and then

648
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: the door against the door and then falls to the floor,

649
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: and then like her friends are like calling her like

650
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: off the hook of her big phone. I mean I

651
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: do that like often, I would say, like in my head,

652
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: but I don't. I'm always wanting on kind of my

653
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: first dates to kind of evoke that energy of like,

654
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and then we went for late night drinks. What was

655
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: your first date with my head? Well, I do feel

656
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: it was kind of girlfriend, yeah, kind of that. So

657
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: we went our first i'd say official date. I was

658
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: performing at like a gallery comedy show you were hosting,

659
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: and she came. It was like an installation of a

660
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: gallery and I played the chef as usual. Wait, that

661
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: was your first day. So she came down and because

662
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: she was like coming to chalcol and we had already

663
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: met out and so she like stopped by that and

664
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, like do you want to come to

665
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: me to like the drinks thing. So then like we

666
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: headed into Brooklyn. We got on the F train and

667
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: then like I went to this random drinks and I

668
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: assumed all these girls were her best friends, but it

669
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: was like this was after you take it as like

670
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: a cool fucking downtown comedy show. Yeah, then we got

671
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: drinks and the coolest comedians on are going okay, and

672
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm just like, these are her best friends, but actually

673
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: she's just like I turned out like she was like

674
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: I've never seen those girls like have for a gun.

675
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: It was like weird, risky camp friends. Anyway, and then

676
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, now we're going to pop into with

677
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: someone else's goodbye drinks and then and this is where

678
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: I am Danny Meyer. So after that, and then we're

679
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: like okay, like let's go back to your house to

680
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: finally go to home bass. We passed by this bar

681
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: live jazz is playing, and then you duck and we

682
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: fucking duck. This book should actually be called Ducky Duck.

683
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: And then we ducked and got a beer and made

684
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: out to live jazz and then and then continue walking home,

685
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: we got like a motally cheating was the trombone and

686
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: you were playing. Um I didn't do the note though

687
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: the next morning, but anyway, that is like myle twin

688
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: thing to like to come upon something, which if now

689
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: my boyfriend was he was so not that he went

690
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: to Bertie's and like got wasted and then went back

691
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: to his tiny apartment and like did go and smoked wat. Okay,

692
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: So may I transition now that we're talking about jazz

693
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: to talk about barbecue blue smoke and oh wait, I'm sorry.

694
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: What he has his idea for like a website called

695
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: que So ninety and he's like it will be an

696
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: interactive map and you can like find out where all

697
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: the best barbecue plizzes are. I mean sounds like a

698
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: cool website night, but he's like, I am glad looking

699
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: back that I didn't do that website. Okay. So he's

700
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: like loves barbecue and because like obviously like such a

701
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: fat kid, and it's like this guy, whatever, invite me

702
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: for sucking ribs and like I've been like testing like

703
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: smoke pits all over this country. So he opens his

704
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: barbecue restaurant and he's like, my whole thing is that

705
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to seem like a theme park.

706
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: And just like the last thing we wanted to do

707
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: is to have like so many old coke signs. But

708
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: like I've passed by Blue Smoke and it looks is

709
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: so old consigned, and I guess they got like really,

710
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's something like to seem like a theme

711
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: park and it's like it looks like a theme park

712
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: on the website, right, and it's like his so airport. Yeah,

713
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: and then it's being brue Smoke and just like Neon

714
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: and like twisty things and like everyone is like in

715
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: a plaid shirt and it's like, I don't know, I

716
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: do think that he was like it's so hard to

717
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: do Bebeque New York because people it's all about context. Well,

718
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: smoke coordinances is huge for one, but also people are

719
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: obsessed with finding an off the beaten track barbecue plays

720
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: and that is the thrill of it and then going

721
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: in so like nothing is off the beaten path about

722
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: going to in Madison. And also like Danny Mine is

723
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: already famous and it's just like we alread have the

724
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: celebrity things right, and you're like, okay, so you're popping

725
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: up this baby que. You know what I want to

726
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: do because there is a jazz club underneath. One day

727
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: we should go to the jazz club and you can

728
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: get fair from his cousin, Yes, and he bought him

729
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: out or something. But then I looked and there's like

730
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: a blue smoke at JFK, so maybe right, which was like, yeah,

731
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: that's not off the math. Maybe on our next flight

732
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: to who knows Nantucket sends Ashville Toronto, we'll stop at

733
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: bs BS very jet Blue terminal four. And you're getting

734
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: just like a eight pulled pork sandwich. Um, and you're

735
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: from an iPad because where a service. Nowadays everything is automated. Okay,

736
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: I love the word he uses hospitalitarium. Um. Okay. So

737
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: Danny Meyers restaurants a few years ago made quite a

738
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: lot of news, quite a bit of hubbub. I've got

739
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: a lot of tongues of flapping and lips and wagging

740
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: about or I wait, reverse that, tongues of tongues wagging

741
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: and lips of flap them about not tipping and completely

742
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: eliminating tipping from most restaurants and instead including it in

743
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: to the prices. So your food is a little bit higher.

744
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Who's expensive, but everyone's getting tip equally, and therefore the

745
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: poor waiters and waitresses are not dependent on the whims

746
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: of some crazy rich, crazy rich man who maybe had

747
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: a bad day. It doesn't feel like and it's just

748
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: like I got myselad late and you're pulling my wine.

749
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Bad day. The marketing comes in and takes it on

750
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: the waitress. One thing about wine. When he there's a

751
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: reviewer that comes in, he knows the guy like hates

752
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: when white wines two chilled. So Danny Meyers rubs it

753
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: between his thighs. Yeah, and then it turns all of

754
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: the wine was too warm. Yeah, and it was like

755
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: all this this hot wine that actually does sound kind

756
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: of good though, and I do, And I will say

757
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: I actually used to work a City winery, which is

758
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: as as an usher, which is a a position that's

759
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: like it's like a two and a half hour job. Yeah,

760
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: it's kind of the lowest in Dannie winter World. You're

761
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: part of the ballet. Okay, you're absolutely part of the ballad.

762
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: You're you're a flute in the orchestra. It was a

763
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: good job because I got to see shows for free.

764
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: And you say, I saw Macy Gray. I saw City

765
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: Winery is a place that like it's very for like

766
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: people that have like a really big singer songwriter album

767
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: in ninety two and had like one big hit like

768
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: what Tom's Diner. Yeah, Susan Vegas saw her perform there.

769
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: Betty always plays there, the band that sings Lard theme song. Anyway,

770
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: one thing I'm learned in a city winery was that

771
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: red wine is often served too hot at restaurants and

772
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: white wine is served too cold because like the Americans

773
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: here stupid and they're always like red wine supposed to

774
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: be steamy boots. And Okay, there's that passage where he

775
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: talks about like things that really know him, about restaurants

776
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: that like servers do, which was so fucking on the

777
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: he was extremely accurate. Okay, So I do think the

778
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: best thing about he teaches his servers and is to

779
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: be like, you need to know when someone is like

780
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: either having a business lunch or like an anniversary, or

781
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: just needs to be left alone or like does want

782
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: to be catered to. He also goes in that whole

783
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: thing which is so insane of how he manages a reservation,

784
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: and he's like, if I know that like a publishing

785
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: mogul is sitting at like table like thirteen, and then

786
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: I see that like a finance year is sitting at

787
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: like table, I'm going to sit them together. And then

788
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: it's like ten days later, Yes, the deal was brokered

789
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: and they had investments. So I mean, he you know,

790
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: he's the original Trump. He actually has the do maker

791
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: and he's making the deals happen. Okay, this passage where

792
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: he talks about what he doesn't want waiters to do.

793
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: I cringe when a waiter asked, how is everything? That's

794
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: an empty question that will get an empty response. Also,

795
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: I can't stand the use of we to mean you

796
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: as and how are we doing so far? I abhor

797
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: the question are you still working on the lamb? If

798
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: the guest has been working on the lamb, it probably

799
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: wasn't very tender and very good in the first place.

800
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: You know, my parents are like obsessed with like roasting

801
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: servers who ask if you're still working? Like that was

802
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: like their family joke, but they really like kind of

803
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: they still make it. They still make it. And I'm like,

804
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: all right, I mean, I mean I remember being like

805
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: hen and they were like, are we still working? We're

806
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: not working, We're eating. What I find a knowing about, though,

807
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: is it's just like it like makes me feel like

808
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: guilty for having not finished it because it's like they're

809
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: waiting and they're like you are you still like you're

810
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: still kind of plunging your way through this chicken here,

811
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: and it's like, Babe, I'm trying to enjoy myself. Oh,

812
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: if a guess says thank you for something, the waiters

813
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: should not answer no problem, since why does it necessarily

814
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 1: deny that delivery? Next services problem? A genuine you're welcome

815
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: is always their apropriate response, which I also think is

816
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: true because saying no problem is so like as if yes,

817
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: if they were going to go out of their way

818
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: or something. But I also feel like you're welcome is

819
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: somewhat like overly formal. Yeah, I feel like you just

820
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: say nothing. I can't say my pleasure. I think it's

821
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of nice. But then he talks about how you

822
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: go to the Ritz Carlton and everyone says my pleasure

823
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: and it sounds like a cult. Well right, and that

824
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: is what's great. Also, then, like when we went to

825
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: real tour for our troops, when we went to Vegas,

826
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: and that like began our joke because any time like

827
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, can we get towels, they would deliver

828
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: towels Danny Meyer style to our door and then they

829
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: would call a second later and be like, hello, how

830
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: is your towel experience? And you're just like, this is

831
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: too much hospitality. Actually you should you should know when

832
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: to step back, and I want to push forward because

833
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: one thing that he's at that really resonating. He says,

834
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: surface is the delivery of the product. Hospitality is how

835
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: the delivery of that product makes on one field. And

836
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: so sure, when the towels are delivered promptly, that can

837
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: be nice, But the phone call and then are you

838
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and enjoy the towels that you received.

839
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot, and I do have to

840
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: kind of get through my day. Okay. I felt, by

841
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: the way, like reading this book and like taking all

842
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: my scrolls of notes, I felt like so um, like

843
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: a down and out businessman in like a worn like suit,

844
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: like reading this book, yeah, like how to be successful,

845
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: and I'm taking furious notes, being like the road to

846
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: success is paved with mistakes, and I'm just like, no,

847
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: I'll let me just read this book and then I'll

848
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: become like a rich hotel. Yeah. Well, so when I

849
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: was I would say ages nine to eleven, I really

850
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: wanted to own a hotel. That was one of my

851
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: big dreams. He was kind of I think I was

852
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: I would own a women's basketball team or play playing

853
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: a women's basketball team. Then with that money, play to own,

854
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: like to own. And then I was thinking I would

855
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: own a hotel. And I have this recurring fantasy, and

856
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: it was usually just kind of like me walking into

857
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: a hotel and then like me sitting at a desk

858
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh, I just want to go

859
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: to hotels. So there wasn't really a lot of just

860
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: like not even like deed signing or just like this

861
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: is my hotel. We're just literally being in there. Yeah,

862
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: I mean definitely I was briefcase and I was like

863
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: in a suit and I'm walking in. I was kind

864
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: of being so like guns, like everyone who works there

865
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: is there, Like is there like a busty hostess who's

866
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: just like pushing a martini being like sir, here you are. Yeah,

867
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure I had like a hot secretary. And then

868
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: I said back and they're just like Mr Marada, we

869
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: have your three o'clock. And my parents were like, I'm amazing.

870
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: You can go to like the Cornell like School of

871
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Hotels Management, which are a good friend MC right, And

872
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: then kind of I was like, I don't think I

873
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: could still be in the cards. No, I know, I'm

874
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: not shouting that up. You know what, I think you're

875
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: instinct to want to be a hotel? Yeah, because I

876
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: think I have great hospitality. Yes, And I think that

877
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: you want people to have fun. I feel the same way.

878
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: You know you want to and that's what you know

879
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: host is about. It's what you know, it's what counts about.

880
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: You want to bring people in and have them have

881
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: a good time. Exactly. He has something in there about it.

882
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: It is kind of about being like a service top

883
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: basically is like you get your pleasure basically servicing other genes.

884
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: Stay on during sex, you are going down on someone

885
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: else and when they come, I'm in my heavy denim.

886
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: Although you know what's dating service up? But now I'm

887
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: actually questioning. Okay. I feel like in lesbian sex, giving

888
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: oral is not necessarily bottom behavior. No, that's that's the

889
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: whole switch, because I feel like I feel like actually

890
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: receiving that's the bottom because then you have to admit

891
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: like you have like a pussy, right, and like giving

892
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: giving giving is more just like fuck ye, Like I'm

893
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: like service, I'm giving, like to make my girl. But

894
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: are there stud tops nowaday? Who do? Who would talk

895
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: about getting hand from a from a woman? Yeah? But

896
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: I think it's like, well, no, you talk about it,

897
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: but you're like, yeah, I got a blowjob, like she

898
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: sucked on your strap, yeah, my strap. But or just

899
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: even receiving just like someone eating you out, being like yeah,

900
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: like I got hit to receive an eat out. So

901
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: little brief kind of on that because I know, right

902
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: in gay guy culture, right, if you are sucking a dick,

903
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: you are not a talk? Is that crazy? These cultural rules?

904
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Like why does one thing have to be one way?

905
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: And this was something we could go you know, probably

906
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: late night eats at Youion Square cafe tavern and just

907
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: discuss it, right, And who says that a late night

908
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: eat doesn't have to be elevated French bistro fair? Who

909
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: says you can't have a gorgeous steak free it's reinvented.

910
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Who says that a restaurant at a museum just has

911
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: to be a rope cafeteria from museum goers and not

912
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: a high luxury dining experience. Speaking of Tuesday night, we

913
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: went to the modern the two star I believe restaurant

914
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: in the moment. It was never never I had never been.

915
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: It was absolutely fabulous. It was so fucking fab We

916
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: got drinks. I also would say, let's talk about the

917
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: service for a second. The going in was phenomenal. It's

918
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: like the also it was going in Lily stages of

919
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: a meal going in well, because he talks about like

920
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: hospitality like it is a battlefield. The reservationist is our

921
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: first line of defense. And it's like there were no

922
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: tables and we were like, there was no seats at

923
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: the bar, and we were like asking if we could

924
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: have like a bar table, and she was being so

925
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: classic restaurant like literally, you know, she was just like

926
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: paging through an iPad that was just blank and was

927
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, maybe we can squeeze you in. It's

928
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: going to be forty five minutes. And it is about

929
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: managing expectation because you don't want to promise something or

930
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: turn someone off right, and you don't want to overbook

931
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: and like you know, kill the waiters and kill the

932
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: kitchen um. But then she was like, do you mind

933
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: like all squeezing around this table and it was like

934
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: this absolutely massive banquette that could have fit like five

935
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: more people, and she was like is this okay or

936
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: just like we'll suffer. We'll suffer. It's just a midtown

937
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: and I feel like people in midtown are like I

938
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: need like a wide, wide banquette to sit my ass

939
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: down on the spatial relations in midtown and we're kind

940
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: of we're accustomed to kind of five leaves cramming in millennials,

941
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: we'll fit like surdays. So I would say it was

942
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: perfect service. You know, it was laughed at some of

943
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: r jokes. When I was when I was coughing, a

944
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: waiter came within like fifteen seconds with like a jug

945
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: of water, like seeing that I was coughing and needed water.

946
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: It was eyes open, and we ordered quite randomly. I'll say, yeah,

947
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: we got scollops and fries dessert first. So this was

948
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: because our friend was being weird. But and you know,

949
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: and they didn't bat an eye, and they're like the

950
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: same friend who ironically was in that story I told

951
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: earlier about wanting to set a different table of Chili's.

952
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: You have to be ready for anything. When someone says, hey,

953
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: I want to get ice cream and then I want scallop,

954
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: bat an eye'll actually bring it out as it comes.

955
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: If that's what the diners need. Also, the woman, some

956
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: woman from Mrs Mazel was there. Okay, so follow up

957
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: to that story. So that actress who was Mrs Wan

958
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: or Miss Swan on Matt TV is now a Miss

959
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: Mazel was a couple of seats down from us at

960
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: the monitor and we look over like, oh my god,

961
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: that's that woman from our Miss Mazel. Cut to the

962
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: next time. Also she was being so fab of having

963
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: two phones and a whiskey favorite meal. Do you think

964
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: it was a suntory and Japanese? I bet it was Japanese, definitely,

965
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: all the screaming, all their cocktails were a blend of

966
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: a Japanese whiskey and Australian whiskey. Okay, it's just like

967
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: in the whiskey Need to Live to go here, they

968
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: have to be combined. Reserve cortails twenty batch reserve thirty

969
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: batchy claimed reserve thirty five. So I was at Danny

970
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: Mar's Union Square cafe the next day. I pull up

971
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: to the bar, I put setting the table this book

972
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: we're reading on the bar. I sit down. The bartender

973
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: looks at me, Oh, what's that book and like smiling,

974
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: and I'm just like it's about the restaurant industry. It's

975
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. Then the guy next to me, this like

976
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: old middle aged guy on like seven iPads, turned to go.

977
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: I helped him write it stop okay. Then like ten

978
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: minutes later, these like two fabulous chicas come in and

979
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: are having like this way you're sitting at the bar,

980
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: sitting at the bar. Classic okay, here's always at the bar,

981
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: always to the bar. Because we become friends of the bartender.

982
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: They're one they're more luckly to like probably give you

983
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: some free stuff, bigger pores. We become friends. So then

984
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: these two fabulous sekers come in there like laughing. Within

985
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, they're talking about Danny Marriage book and they're

986
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, and he says it in the book.

987
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: The bartenders over there with these two cheekas he turns

988
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: to me smiles. I raised my book and show it

989
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: to him and like the cheeka goes he was shut up.

990
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: You just said the name of the book and it

991
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: appeared quick a million dollars. No how old were there,

992
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: we were just like forty, like oh my too, one

993
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: with with the most crimped hair, like these are the

994
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: girls women sorry, going to a dinnermare restaurant is two

995
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: thousand two when you're back in the rom com and

996
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: they have like probably dished on so many dates there.

997
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's also Sex and the City. He talks

998
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: about how the sex and scooty Sex in the City

999
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: in the City, Sex and the City came on their

1000
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: bus store to MP Madison Punk. Yeah, one of the

1001
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: finest restaurants in the world. Absolutely. Um so those teachers

1002
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: are And then there's a guy on his laptop to

1003
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: the right of me who is alternately like reading scripts

1004
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: and then checking his AO well mail. This was yesterday

1005
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: jumped too, and I'm just like someone's checking their AO

1006
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: well mail at this like bar at two we're all

1007
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: having like this wine lunch. So he I've already talked

1008
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: to the bartender about this podcast and sort of wine

1009
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: here just to sort of be a fun about my

1010
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: motor No, I mean, because he was like I wanted

1011
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: to think I was some weird spy or like that

1012
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: I was like a cop hired by Danny Meyer or

1013
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: like whatever. Yeah, because I was like, that is so

1014
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: like wearing the band's T shirt to the band, which

1015
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: he said that you were bringing the book like there

1016
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: and you're being so Friends Center, and I was like,

1017
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: either they're gonna love it or be like so sketched,

1018
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna love it because everyone there's a full Danny

1019
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Meyer fan. So this guy's listening to me say this,

1020
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: and he was telling me his career as writer. He's like, okay,

1021
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: so like I'm actually I'm I'm a writer for Marvel's

1022
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: Mrs Masil And I was just wait what and he

1023
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: was like, we actually had like the Mazel premiere. At moment.

1024
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like the Mazel brothers have a

1025
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: new movie, because I thought I just remembered you like

1026
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: working for the Basils and so like I know that

1027
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: they exist. And he was like, no, the marvelous Mrs

1028
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Mazel and I was like, oh what, that's why we

1029
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: saw the Mazel star dining alone at the Modern. I

1030
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: can't because I'm sure there was some other drinks. Do

1031
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: you think she like ditched it and was just like

1032
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: I need to be alone at the Modern, which is

1033
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: so fabulous. I'm sorry, I just can't be around these people.

1034
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go next and get my Santori, my

1035
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: Santauri and have my like moment to decompress. After that,

1036
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: maybe it was like before the panel, she was just like, Oh,

1037
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: she's one of those people who was like, I hate

1038
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: to watch my own material. I can't I can't be

1039
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 1: in the theater. Because it was like seven or something.

1040
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: She probably was I hate watching myself because of course

1041
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: there's Parker's so like, I think I've only seen one

1042
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: episode of Sex in the City. Way it was just like, wow,

1043
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: Danny Miro owns New York. Like people are going to

1044
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: the Monitor one night and then going to Quirk Cafe. Say,

1045
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: I go for his hospital, And I feel like the

1046
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: whole thing about un Square Cafe is him building repeat

1047
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: customers people go to. It was very well go every week.

1048
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: Everyone there was a regular. Then another guy comes in

1049
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: and the bartender turns and he's like, oh hey, Nikola,

1050
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: like you take sparkling right, And he's like of course,

1051
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: and he's like and he just like knows his water

1052
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: in the water. I feel like I'm really not like

1053
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: a regular anywhere, regular anywhere, and it makes me sad. Sad. Yeah,

1054
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm like the bar probably have been to like

1055
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: most is probably just like Julia's pop, they don't recognize you.

1056
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean I would say I'm a regular Asian Roma

1057
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,959
Speaker 1: where I host my comedy show. But that doesn't count

1058
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: on going there just for like the spaghetti oil. I'm

1059
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: not going for the POSTI with the oil. But if

1060
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: I ever go there when I'm not, I mean I

1061
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: get that's different. That's a venue evolution. Yeah, it's very different.

1062
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm alto regular at Honeys. I guess, yeah, where

1063
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: I perform and clean and dry. I don't get any

1064
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: free drinks that honey is really we used to? Yeah,

1065
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: Segment five, how does she live? How does she eat? Okay,

1066
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: so I kind of cheated just to top this off. Okay,

1067
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: what you read like? I read like it and my

1068
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: tea like inside of like Danny. Okay, can I guess? Yeah?

1069
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: So let's first off, how does he live? Right, I'm

1070
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: guessing like deep leather couch for restoration hardbar. It's very

1071
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: restoration hardware, but it's not leather. It was all about

1072
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: like wine colored corduroy couches. It's just tons of big couches.

1073
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: It was like you're gonna need to like spuggle for

1074
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: a seat like between just oh wait die, they have

1075
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: a dog that's an Italian truffle sniffing dog. What we

1076
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: need it's literally just like a pig, but it's a dog.

1077
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: I wish my cat could sniff truffles. That's in soon. Yeah,

1078
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm picturing just a lot of like warm fabric. Warm

1079
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: fabish was like I think it's a big and lush

1080
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: and huge bait. It's almost like when you go to

1081
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: someone's like a state in the south of France and

1082
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: it's like kind of like old fashioned e but like

1083
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: modern the stateized south of France. It was just like

1084
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: very old fashioned. Well, I guess it actually buzz kind

1085
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: of a mix. It was kind of eighties and like

1086
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: big tile and like couches I'm talking about like I'm

1087
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: talking like sync worthy couches. Also, I'm picturing he has

1088
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: a double farm sink and like hanging copper pots, so

1089
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: Julia Child style that. But it's also just like a

1090
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: lot of big bookcases. It's a duplex and grammar sy.

1091
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: It's basically just like a ton of like corduroy huge

1092
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: couch is there. There's like a ladder, rolling rolling ladder. Also,

1093
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: so Danny Mark always talks about how he's obsessed with

1094
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: early Americana antiques and he's so American pickers and he's

1095
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: getting a mass up for Pallor, which is like the

1096
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: straight way to like design is like you can be obsessed,

1097
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: but it is so propeller and like barn door and

1098
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: like a desk from Massachusetts in sixty three. They want

1099
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: to hearken back to a time when things were a

1100
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: little sip, when everyone knew their place. Shall we say, Okay,

1101
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: what does he wear? I mean he's so just like

1102
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: slim the most like navy blazer. He's like, I have

1103
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: a tailor that I've had for three Yeah, it's like

1104
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: the most boring to the tailoring district to get my

1105
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: clothes tailored. Like there's an alter like he has like

1106
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: a Brioni suitor, like or like Laura Piano. Definitely Brioni

1107
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: suits and it's Rmani. It's just like classic suits tailor.

1108
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: He's always he's also very like my shirts in London,

1109
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: my shirts in London. I get my ties in France.

1110
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: And but he has like a really good pair of

1111
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: Leavis for like Sundays, Yes, Sundays only, and that's when

1112
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: he walks the truffle when I when I go find

1113
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: a new pit spot. Yeah, he's like, we have some

1114
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: beers and watch the Cardinals and just just riffed on

1115
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: jazz antiques. And Barbie doesn't seem like he ever is

1116
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: really relaxed though, And that's another gay Panic thing, Like

1117
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he's but I say that he doesn't

1118
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: sleep that much. Yeah, I mean he's like, oh, he's

1119
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: very like Illuminati four hours a night. Yes, what does

1120
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: he eat? Because what doesn't he eats? Like he yes,

1121
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: is going on like constant trips and is tasting everything,

1122
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: was going to every be Strone is always like perfecting

1123
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: his restaurants. But I also feel like he's like still

1124
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: like so weirdly like celeb and it's just like random

1125
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: parfe like juice in the morning. And then like what

1126
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: do you think a parfe um? Like a parfet is

1127
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: like granola and yogurt Okay, yeah, yeah, alrighte is like

1128
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: so deserved, like the huge banana tres Like I'm just

1129
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: thinking more like it's some like icelandic yogurt with blueberries.

1130
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: And then like his wife is like, Danny, you should

1131
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: eat breakfast and he's like I don't need breakfast or

1132
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: he's doing or he's being so okay, do you think

1133
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: that he's never been so like heater or whatever that's

1134
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: like so anathem, just like loving. You know, he's like

1135
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: a runner, Like he's so treadmill. He's treadmill. He's not run,

1136
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: he's so I mean, he's so hello, he's so rom calm,

1137
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: Like he's on the phone, on the treadmill, on the treadmill,

1138
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: on the bluetooth. And then it's like who grabs the

1139
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: towel And then his wife is like, put on a

1140
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: new shirt, don't kiss me with those where the blue

1141
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: one with the blue tie. She keeps me honest. He's

1142
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: always just oh, he's so saying that people are like

1143
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: a good judge of character. Oh he's like you know

1144
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: that person in your family who's a great judge of character,

1145
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: who can go on jury duty and tell if someone's

1146
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: innocent in a second. And I'm like, wops, the fun Okay.

1147
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: I have a theory that people who always claim that

1148
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: they're a good judge of character are actually the worst.

1149
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: I can tell when someone's a snake and you're like, m,

1150
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: that's actually very your ex Well that's what I was

1151
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: immediately to people as being cock. She was always like

1152
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: I knew she was a fucking snake. And then like

1153
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: six months later, she'd be like, Stephanie is actually really cool.

1154
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: But that's that restaurant energy. You're always judging. You're always

1155
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: judging because it's a fucking go go go world and

1156
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 1: you're under a ton of stress and every right, sorry,

1157
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: I just like banged way too hard. Who are you?

1158
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm Danny Meyer is a child? Oh and

1159
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: sneaking pursuito at night? Yeah, because okay, once like snuck

1160
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: out to a deli because I don't think I was

1161
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: allowed yet to leave. That was without supervision. I remember

1162
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: getting a sub and hiding it under my bed because

1163
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: like didn't want my parents to know that you'd snuck out. Yeah,

1164
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: what you did when you snuck out of the house,

1165
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: it was just like a big sub And it's like,

1166
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'd be so mad. That was

1167
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: just a weird sub energy and it was just like

1168
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: this oil seeping out of this sub under your back.

1169
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: I think it was like good carpet, a blown knee, cheese, pickles,

1170
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: something going on, extra red wine, vinegar, not you're remembering

1171
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: this order? Yeah, I mean I remember walking into a

1172
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: movie theater once and you pulled a McDonald's cheeseburger out

1173
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: of your pocket, so you know old habits. Also one time,

1174
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: remember we tried to bring we brought subs into a

1175
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: movie theater and the guy was like, oh, like you

1176
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: can't bring food into a movie. They were like, come on,

1177
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: we're not gonna eat these subs. Just this was just

1178
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: I was already in and you and he was like,

1179
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: I guess you're right, Like no one would eat a

1180
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: twelve inch ub in a theory, And then we proceeded

1181
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: to devour those that was during Ocean's age. Yeah, and

1182
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: that was absolutely were all were confer my scents. Who

1183
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: am I in the book? Like, I mean, you're also

1184
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: also tanny. My was like constantly going on vacations with

1185
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: my parents and like having this gay panic and just

1186
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: being like a restaurant needs to be expensive. Um, I

1187
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: could like also see myself as just like one of

1188
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: his many friends that he's like he was a really

1189
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: good guy, really good pit master, and he knew his

1190
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: way around a vine. Or are we both all the

1191
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: people who diabdes nine. It's so cool that he was

1192
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: a shoutout was getting very shoutout. He was just like,

1193
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: we did lose a lot, and you know, and ultimately

1194
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: our third general manager of that restaurant, Michael something like

1195
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: Michaelmano like then also died like succumbed to the advise

1196
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: in a jury nine like, and it was too bad

1197
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: that we can't believe some people. But I focused on

1198
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: my next restaurant, and that's when I got the idea

1199
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: for Tom Blow. Maybe I'm his cousin later in life,

1200
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: who opened the Blue Standard the jazz club. You were like,

1201
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: you had a jazz club that was struggling, that was struggling,

1202
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: and someone helped me out and was like, what if

1203
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: I buy you out and at a restaurant to it?

1204
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like sound good to me. Wow, So what

1205
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: a book, What an incredible journey. I triple recommend if

1206
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: you like food, hospitality, if you're into restaurants, if you're

1207
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: into New York City, if you're into the rom com,

1208
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: if you like to duck in, if you like to

1209
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: duck in, or if you like, are such a business

1210
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: person and want to learn how to like literally like

1211
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: treat people. Yeah, no, for our business listeners, I know

1212
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: all the business heads out there, this is actually a

1213
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: very helpful book, much better than some of those fucking

1214
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: dad poor jack books that they through you know, fucking

1215
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: Jack Welch or whatever some asshole like writes somebody, because

1216
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: all like business books are usually honestly pretty worthless and

1217
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: they're just like and they're so boring and impersonal. Yeah,

1218
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: this is like real and these lessons are absolutely vital,

1219
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean interesting, He says. He was like, I absolutely

1220
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: it was not going to be like such a Trump

1221
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: and do the apprentice or like do an apprentice time

1222
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: and literally and I'm never When I was at USC yesterday,

1223
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: like he gave me all this wine to try, I

1224
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: was like, I'm kind of thinking like this or this

1225
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: or this. He was like, let's try all three. Gave

1226
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: me a generous pour of three different wines. It was

1227
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: like finish them all. It's like yes, like and he's

1228
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: saying he loves wine. It's like, what's a share that

1229
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: when you give people more, it's like you're not going

1230
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: to lose money because like you're getting way free stuff

1231
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: because they're definitely just going to come back, right, You're

1232
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: getting repeat customers. That's what it's about. Don't try and

1233
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: swindle people the first time. Try and be extra generous

1234
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: so that will come back. And you're just being like

1235
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: this one actually you're gonna love and it's really fun.

1236
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: And that's the bottle that's like sixty two. And like

1237
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: when I said to the guy yesterday, I like, I

1238
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: have this new thing where I say that I want

1239
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: a wine that tastes like it's just been on a

1240
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: hike like that. I wanted to if we wiry and

1241
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: Muscli and okay, that's very This review of Upstate restaurant

1242
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: Little Deb's wine program, well they say that like they

1243
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: don't like when they're Yeah, they're always like, oh, like

1244
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: what's your favorite like body of water to swim in?

1245
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: And like that's how they choose the wine. What's your

1246
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: favorite body of water to swimming? The ocean? You are?

1247
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: You're a natural like salty, but I love I love

1248
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: getting like fucked by wave. But that's the only time

1249
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: your bottom. It's true when I'm in the you want

1250
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: the ocean. I want the ocean and an ideal world.

1251
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: I want the ocean. And then finished the night off

1252
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: in the pool. You are, I like to stay wet. Wait, okay,

1253
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: just last thing, which Danny Meyer restaurant? Are you? Well?

1254
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: I'd like to think I'm the modern absolute luxury art

1255
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: culture midtown bank cats, but maybe I am more of USC.

1256
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: I think you're a USC, your kid, Hudson, It's like

1257
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: you're more like gorgeous caesar salad. You're not you know, yes,

1258
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: you're luxurious, but you're not all the time like crazy

1259
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: thirty dollar like Japanese whiskey. You know what I think

1260
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 1: you are. And this is actually gonna come as a surprise,

1261
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: but not but Grammar stre haven't because I'm like retro. Yeah,

1262
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: and you're like you do have like a big propeller

1263
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: and you have so many like weird like old little

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Speaker 1: And thank you so much for Sam Grammsey to Havern

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Speaker 1: and not blue smoke, because I'm not a fucking theme

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Speaker 1: I'm more like Guardia. Alright. Next week we will be

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Speaker 1: reading DJ Steve Aoki and his book The Color of

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Speaker 1: Noise is actually blue the color of Noise. So I

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Speaker 1: was correct the first time. Well I thought I messed up. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's just called blue the color of Noise. I do

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Speaker 1: kind of think it maybe just should have been called

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Speaker 1: either blue or the color of noise. Yeah, I've been

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Speaker 1: as stronger, a little more blue as the world's color.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to get into all that next episode.

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Speaker 1: We'll say they're scintillating title critique until next week. Until then,

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Speaker 1: ladies keep on dancing. Um, well, thanks for another amazing episode, Lily.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to talk book with you. You

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Speaker 1: talk such a good book and we're going to do

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Speaker 1: it next week when we read Steve memoir, which we

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Speaker 1: just discussed. But seriously, you guys, thank you so much.

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