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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend. The cruise all back and we're loaded up

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Speaker 1: and ready for the holiday season. Right, Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 1: You're like, whoa DG Well, hold on one, you're Jewish, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can still wish you a merry Christmas. Two, it's

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Speaker 1: only December first. Hey, once we get best Thanksgiving, you

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Speaker 1: can wish anybody a merry Christmas. You know Christmas lights.

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Speaker 1: Now is the time. Now is the time. Two months

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Speaker 1: ago was not the time. Now is the time. Now

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Speaker 1: is the time? All right to Jay stews here, Dan

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Speaker 1: Byer's here, Iowa Sam is here, and maybe most importantly,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. We got a lot to get to. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk of this Lang Kiffin thing because everybody's

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Speaker 1: talking about it, and I want to get everybody's opinion,

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Speaker 1: because you know it's all gonna be based upon your perspective.

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Speaker 1: Dan has been and Jason have really been in the

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Speaker 1: media longer than I have. Because I'm a coach and

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Speaker 1: because I've been around college athletics a little bit more intimately,

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Speaker 1: I may have a different perspective. And Sam is again

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to you for Sam, but more more of

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Speaker 1: a fan than somebody who's covered in the media. He

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Speaker 1: has his own perspective. Let me share with you mine. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Lange Kiffin is new head coach at LSU. He's no

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Speaker 1: longer an ole Miss. He won't coach ole Miss in

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Speaker 1: the College Wall playoff the unlike Lebron James, I can

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Speaker 1: quote The Godfather. It's not one of my favorite movies.

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Speaker 1: It is a great all time movie. Theins we've chosen, right,

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Speaker 1: this is the business we've chosen, and the voice of

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Speaker 1: reason comes from Nick Saban, which is the college football

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Speaker 1: and scholastic calendar is so out of whack that it

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Speaker 1: puts people in these positions which are inenviable I mean,

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Speaker 1: their first world problems. Right, are you gonna go from

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Speaker 1: making you know, I don't know, ten million a year

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Speaker 1: these are let's have respect for most people, Like, you're

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Speaker 1: coaching a college football team for thirteen million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good gig. And the reason that you

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Speaker 1: can't wait if you're LSU is because, well, now people

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Speaker 1: are putting together their rosters for next year. One who

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Speaker 1: do you want to keep? And more importantly, who do

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Speaker 1: you want to go poach from other SEC schools or

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Speaker 1: other lower level schools in the portal? Could you wait

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks? You could, But now you're to

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Speaker 1: the point where if you don't pull the trigger, you're

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Speaker 1: getting further and further and further behind. And with every

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Speaker 1: day in which you don't, you don't hire lank Iff.

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Speaker 1: And the reason you can you do it now is

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Speaker 1: and they win the thing, he ain't coming. So I

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Speaker 1: understand how all this stuff works. If it was me,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe I would leave. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I don't believe I would leave. The logic behind it

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Speaker 1: Is it harder to rebuild it and to continue it

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Speaker 1: But you're making the type of wealth either place which

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Speaker 1: up to last Miles and at Orgeron has a special

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Speaker 1: the guy, but it's a personal choice. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like Lane Kiffin just got to ole Miss last year,

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Speaker 1: football fan Wisconsin alum, but an Ohio State fan. What's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's my sorry. I have a little frogg

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Speaker 2: I think that he had to leave. I thought there

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Speaker 2: was at one point where he could maybe do both,

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Speaker 2: I just didn't think that that situation would be tenable.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would have been happy in that situation.

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Speaker 2: I think that Kifven's going to be blamed for whatever

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Speaker 1: Now, what are your thoughts on him not wanting to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I think that it would be

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Speaker 2: for whatever Old Miss does, so he's not missing out

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Speaker 2: on the money. I understand why Old Miss wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: him there. CBS Sports did a deep dive into what

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Speaker 2: is transpired over the last few weeks, and for as

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Speaker 2: him coach, I just, yeah, I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 2: think everybody at Old Miss loved what went on for

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Speaker 2: It was a soap opera.

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Speaker 1: Here's Bill Kauer, former Steelers head coach, on CBS talking

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Speaker 3: Kiven did since talk about Lane Kiffin's decision and what

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Speaker 3: he asked in his statement that he was denied the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to coach the Ole Miss team through the course

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Speaker 3: And I would say, why would you even ask that question?

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Speaker 3: Why would an AD let a coach who made a

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Speaker 3: just say thank you, Lane and goodbye. And now that

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Speaker 3: not about the program. It's about Lane Kiffin because he

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Speaker 3: He's decided to take them and only leave them, which

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Speaker 4: Program and deplete the program, deplete.

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Speaker 3: The program and the dreams of these young men who

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Speaker 3: you said that you want to there and you want

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let you do it yourself.

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Speaker 1: I think Bill Cower is living in a fantasy world.

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Speaker 1: To be completely honest with you, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Foster was fired three games into his second season

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Speaker 1: it nineteen out of twenty one years, got fired three

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Speaker 1: I I owe a debt of gratitude to Josh Moon,

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Speaker 1: my chancellor. They gave me an opportunity. Wo't know what

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Speaker 1: I owe them a degree of loyalty because they gave

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Speaker 1: It's not always a terrible thing when a guy leaves,

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Speaker 1: but like, like, if you schools aren't loyal to coaches,

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Speaker 1: what are you even taught? What is Bill Cowry even

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Speaker 1: being in a studio at he worked for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: They've been overly loyal to coaches for years. That's not

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Speaker 1: the reality of college athletics. They just haven't. Again, I

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Speaker 1: the greatest turnaround seasons ever ever. They lost to like

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Speaker 1: They have a bad year last year. This year's quarterback

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Speaker 1: some some TV guy in New York that's like these kids,

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Speaker 1: he's recruited for four years. How many old miss players

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Speaker 1: not saying I don't believe in loyalty. My goal at

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Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's catch up with Tom Tellusco. He joined

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Speaker 1: voice of Tom to LESCo. Okay, let's let's let's kind

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Speaker 5: to keep coming along on offense.

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Speaker 1: What does the Bears spin over the Eagles that say

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Speaker 1: were about the Bears the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: I really like what the Bears are doing, and it's

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Speaker 5: you know, everyone talked about Keela Williams the whole offseason,

434
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Speaker 5: but you know, there's an identity on this football team.

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Speaker 5: It's running the football and running it very well. Up front.

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Speaker 5: I think Ryan Poles is a tremendous job really rebuilding

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Speaker 5: the offensive line. They acquired Jonah Jackson from the Rams,

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Speaker 5: who Ben Johnson knew when he was with the Lions,

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Speaker 5: and Jonah Jackson did not pan out very well with

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Speaker 5: the Rams. He had a long injury history. He's come

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Speaker 5: to gout to the Bears and he's been healthy number

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Speaker 5: one and played very well. And they brought Joe Toney

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Speaker 5: in from the Chiefs, Joe Touney as a stud he

444
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Speaker 5: still is even at his age, and the Senator Drew Donwan.

445
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Speaker 5: They gave big money tune for Agcy and he has

446
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Speaker 5: played extremely well the same way he did with the Falcons,

447
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Speaker 5: as he did as he is now with the Bears,

448
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Speaker 5: and that's big. The center position is so critical on

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Speaker 5: the offensive line. To me, it's more important than the

450
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Speaker 5: left tackle. He makes everything go up front. So they're

451
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Speaker 5: running the ball at a really strong rate. And it

452
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Speaker 5: was more than just Thursday. They've been doing this for

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Speaker 5: the last four or five weeks as far as to

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Speaker 5: be on the up side of the ball running the football.

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Speaker 5: Caleb makes them play too, and the defense is played solid.

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Speaker 5: So this team, if they keep coming along, they're built

457
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Speaker 5: the punting elements and they'll be built for playoff football

458
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Speaker 5: depending on where they see when they get there. But

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Speaker 5: I thought he the a heck of the job on

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Speaker 5: on Thursday, or actually it was Friday.

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafloor suddenly is it's like it's like riverboat run, right,

462
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Speaker 1: Mattlafloor goes from being super conservative to going forward on

463
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Speaker 1: fourth down and is rewarded in that win. But when

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Speaker 1: you sit back and you look at Detroit and the Packers,

465
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Speaker 1: the Packer's sweeping the Lions. What's your biggest takeaway?

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Speaker 5: The Lions just aren't flaring in all cylinders right now.

467
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Speaker 5: And you've seen the last couple of weeks on offense,

468
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Speaker 5: it just doesn't look natural. They were a little bit

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Speaker 5: better against green Bay, didn't turn it over, but it

470
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Speaker 5: just doesn't feel natural still. And and you know green

471
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Speaker 5: Bay has an excellent offense, but but you know, golf

472
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Speaker 5: still miss He missed some throws and it just felt

473
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Speaker 5: like again, they were just more kind of like more

474
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Speaker 5: calling plays than having a really system up a group

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Speaker 5: system up front. And look at the close game. And

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Speaker 5: when you have Jordan Love as your quarterback and some

477
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Speaker 5: of the offensive playmakers that have it allows you to

478
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Speaker 5: be a little bit more aggressive. And they like their

479
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Speaker 5: game plan going in obviously, but those are some balls

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Speaker 5: for fourth down calls. But we're kind of seeing green

481
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Speaker 5: Bay come a lot eight and three right now. You know,

482
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Speaker 5: they had their little roll in the middle of the year,

483
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Speaker 5: the offensive line was struggling a little bit. The offensive

484
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Speaker 5: live is playing better right now. Jordan Love is a

485
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Speaker 5: franchise quarterback and the key right now is that you

486
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Speaker 5: want to hit your pace when he gets to December,

487
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Speaker 5: and that's what Green Bay is doing right now.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. What about the Cowboys, I just again,

489
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Speaker 1: I know they're not great, but they're trending in the

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Speaker 1: right way and they're way better, way better than at

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Speaker 1: least I would have thought, and most fans thought, what's

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Speaker 1: your reaction?

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Speaker 5: How while the Cowboys are playing, Yeah, it's pretty It's

494
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 5: been pretty cool to watch, I think because we knew

495
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Speaker 5: going into the year that their offense is going to

496
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Speaker 5: be very strong, and I felt very strongly about that.

497
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Speaker 5: Dak Tuscott is when he's healthy, he's one of the

498
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Speaker 5: best quarterbacks in the league. They have plenty of weapons

499
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Speaker 5: to throw it on the perimeter and of the tight

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Speaker 5: ends with Ferguson, so felt like confident they were going

501
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Speaker 5: to score points. The big thing was, obviously, can they

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Speaker 5: stop anybody on the other side of the ball, And

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Speaker 5: they've added a lot of players to help that Now.

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Speaker 5: I think as the year goes on, you know, a

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Speaker 5: good coaching stat can make adjustment and see where the

506
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Speaker 5: weaknesses are. They start to work on those and try

507
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Speaker 5: and turn them into a strength, or at least try

508
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Speaker 5: and hide some weaknesses. But obviously adding Kenny Clark, adding

509
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Speaker 5: Quinny Williams, there are two big time players in the

510
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Speaker 5: middle bring it or getting back to Marion overshow and

511
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Speaker 5: gives them some range and feed a linebacker and some coverability.

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Speaker 5: Bringing Clowney in just in a role has helped them,

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Speaker 5: I think. And they've got a corner of Shannon ravel

514
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Speaker 5: who just came off into the reserve. We're starting to

515
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Speaker 5: play a little bit. He was injured in the draft

516
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Speaker 5: last year. I felt he was the first round corner.

517
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Speaker 5: It's help when he came out in the draft. So

518
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Speaker 5: you know, during the season their pro scouting department and

519
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: front office, have you brought in a good amount of

520
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Speaker 5: players that they've hit on and are playing at a

521
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Speaker 5: higher level. And it's helped the defense. So we'll see

522
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Speaker 5: if this can keep up. I still think the defense

523
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Speaker 5: has their holes, but the offensive they can score enough

524
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Speaker 5: points and the defense keeps improving like they've had, they've

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Speaker 5: got a chance. I mean, if they're a little bit

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Speaker 5: behind at six and five, But we st don't have

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Speaker 5: a chance here down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco

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Speaker 1: is our guest. Course, Tom former general manager of the

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Speaker 1: Chargers for eleven years and the Raiders most recently. I'd

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Speaker 1: be remiss if I didn't ask you about the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: They went all in on this year. Look, they're tracking

533
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Speaker 1: to be right at or above five hundred or whatever,

534
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Speaker 1: but man, not great energy, not great pass rush. And

535
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Speaker 1: then Aaron Rodgers says, hey, you got to show up

536
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Speaker 1: for film sessions. If you're a wide receiver. What's your

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Speaker 1: read on what's going on in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: Well, going into the year, you could see they were

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Speaker 5: built for the short term. You know, they were the

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Speaker 5: second oldest team going into the season, and that's more

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Speaker 5: than just Aaron Rodgers, and that's how they built it

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Speaker 5: for this year. But there's just enough holes on offense. Right,

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Speaker 5: I thought their defense was going to be outstanding and

544
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Speaker 5: it hasn't been. Now, you know, some of the blame

545
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Speaker 5: has to go to the offense. They're not on the

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Speaker 5: field very much. I mean they ran forty three plays yesterday,

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Speaker 5: which is on average. You know, you run about sixty

548
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Speaker 5: five plays and they ran forty three, had ten completions,

549
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Speaker 5: So not converting our third down, not staying on the

550
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Speaker 5: field put the defense on for a lot of snaps yesterday.

551
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Speaker 5: And the Steelers once they got down by two scores

552
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Speaker 5: the Buffalo they're just not built for a straight drop

553
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Speaker 5: back team. They don't pass protect well enough, and Aaron

554
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Speaker 5: Rodgers doesn't quite have the mobility that he used to have.

555
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Speaker 5: So you know, they're in a tough spot if they

556
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Speaker 5: must have the lead, and they can run the ball

557
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Speaker 5: a little bit, so you know what's going on behind

558
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Speaker 5: the scenes. You know, you'd like to keep those behind

559
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Speaker 5: the scenes and handle that behind the scenes, whatever that

560
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 5: may be. But look, the division they're in, it's still

561
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Speaker 5: up for grabs, and they do have a very good defense.

562
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Speaker 5: They can't stop people. They showed it a couple of

563
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Speaker 5: weeks ago where everyone thought their defense was back was

564
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Speaker 5: not quite back yet. I think Mike tom Win even

565
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: said that, you know, you're not not quite back yet,

566
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Speaker 5: but we were playing better. But they're gonna have to

567
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Speaker 5: get more from from just from the offense, just staying

568
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Speaker 5: on the field and and and you know, give another

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Speaker 5: defensive chance, right now.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Tom, the New York Giants, You've you've done a

571
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Speaker 1: lot of hiring in the league in terms of hiring

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Speaker 1: head coaches. Who should the Giants hire in your opinion?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Man, I don't know. I would say this if

574
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Speaker 5: you're probably looking at more an experienced head coach. I

575
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Speaker 5: think in this situation that than a first time I coached.

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Speaker 5: You know, coaching in New York is difficult. I think

577
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Speaker 5: it would probably help them to have someone that would

578
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a track record and background. Think

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Speaker 5: it's a really good job for a number of different reasons.

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Speaker 5: I think it's an outstanding front office and ownership group.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's family run, it's the New York Giants,

582
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Speaker 5: which is an historic team, and they have a lot

583
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Speaker 5: of talent. They have a lot of talent on defense.

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Speaker 5: They didn't play like it, but you know, when you

585
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Speaker 5: look at individually, they have talent on defense for coming

586
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Speaker 5: back for next year. And they have a quarterback with

587
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Speaker 5: Jackson Dirt. So there's a lot of things to build around,

588
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Speaker 5: a lot of positive things. I'm sure they'll they'll cast

589
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Speaker 5: a wide net. I wouldn't get too hung up on

590
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Speaker 5: an offense or defense or special teams. Coach background, you know,

591
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Speaker 5: you need a leader number one and someone who can

592
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Speaker 5: kind of bring it all together. Now if it's if

593
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Speaker 5: it's a defensive background cutting head coach, you know, obviously

594
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Speaker 5: the first question god answer is you know who's gonna

595
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Speaker 5: run your offense and and we're gonna bring it as

596
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Speaker 5: your coordinator. But you got to find a leader first.

597
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Speaker 5: And I wouldn't be surprised if they kind of go

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Speaker 5: their route of the more experienced head coach than the

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Speaker 5: first time.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: I think it'd be tremendous. I think he's a outstanding

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Speaker 5: head coach. I think it fit perfectly. You know, if

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Speaker 5: all things being equal in the situation, I'd rather have

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Speaker 5: an offensive side of the ball head coach with with

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Speaker 5: Jackson Dart and Mike McCarthy a proven truck record of

606
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Speaker 5: winning football games and putting together a really good program

607
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Speaker 5: that you think that'd be a home run.

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Speaker 1: Last thing, Shador, I'll give you my opinion. You know,

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Speaker 1: the one touchdown pass was after a drive when they

610
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Speaker 1: ran the ball I think eight trade times. The issue

611
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Speaker 1: is he's okay. I don't think he's the guy. I

612
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Speaker 1: just don't know how you keep him on the roster.

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Speaker 1: With all the noise around him. If he's going to

614
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Speaker 1: be a backup, right like, he can only make it

615
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Speaker 1: if he's a starter. I don't think he's good enough

616
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Speaker 1: to be the long term starter. Again, not necessarily because him,

617
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Speaker 1: but because of all the noise that follows him, and

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Speaker 1: he can't have noise that follows your backup quarterback, especially

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Speaker 1: when you're very likely to draft somebody high in the draft.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think he has started a trade to be

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Speaker 5: a starter in the NFL. It's hard to tell off

622
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Speaker 5: the two games where exactly that's going to go. But

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Speaker 5: I think the one thing that people are missing right

624
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Speaker 5: now with the Browns offense, it doesn't matter who the

625
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 5: quarterback is right now, they don't have to infer structure

626
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 5: for really anybody to succeed at the high level. So

627
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 5: it's not a very good offensive line. They struggle at

628
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Speaker 5: tackle their interior three or old and the offensive line

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Speaker 5: wise it doesn't give him. There's a lot of times

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Speaker 5: I'm heating, Like people like to complain that he will

631
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Speaker 5: he backs out of the back end of the pocket

632
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Speaker 5: and doesn't step up, But yeah, he does do that sometimes,

633
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Speaker 5: but there's a lot of times he can't step up

634
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Speaker 5: because the middle of the pockets being crushed down, so

635
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: and they just don't have a lot of they don't

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00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: have enough playmakers on offense. They're two best playmakers are

637
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Speaker 5: two rookies, Harold's Fan and Judkins, and there's they're gonna

638
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 5: be excellent players. They're really good players right now, but

639
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 5: there just isn't enough talent around him on the offensive

640
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 5: line and at the skill positions they really know whoever,

641
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Speaker 5: whether it's Gabriel or Sanders or even when Pocket was playing.

642
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: So so that's going to have to be something in

643
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: the off season. Is gonna have to keep improving on

644
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: it to whoever that quarterback is. But washing him play,

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Speaker 5: I've watch him play the last couple of weeks. The

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Speaker 5: ball does jump off his hand. Is he's seeing things

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Speaker 5: really clearly? Yet No, he's not. He's a young rookie

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Speaker 5: quarterback and he's not processing it as quickly as you

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Speaker 5: would like right now. But he is accurate, he can

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Speaker 5: get the ball out, got a little pizzazz in his game.

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Speaker 5: So it'd be great to see him continue to play

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Speaker 5: the rest of the year. But again, the talent is

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Speaker 5: around him needs to be upgraded just as much.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so but let me ask you, as a

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Speaker 1: general manager, based upon what you've seen. Granted we have

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Speaker 1: you know, you got more games to see and more

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Speaker 1: games to see, But based on what you've seen, if

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Speaker 1: you can get an elite quarterback in the draft, or

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Speaker 1: you can build around Shador and trade that pick or

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Speaker 1: draft other spots and build an offensive line, what would

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 5: Well, you just said if you can, and you know

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Speaker 5: they won't know in February or March or earlier April

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Speaker 5: if they can. Yet it's not a real strong quarterback draft.

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Speaker 5: We still have to see what quarterbacks from this year

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Speaker 5: will declare for the draft and who will decide to

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Speaker 5: go back to school. I think that's bigger than ever

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Speaker 5: right now with nil where a quarterback can stay in

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Speaker 5: and still make really good money and keep improving and

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Speaker 5: not have to leave for the draft or the money.

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Speaker 5: But on top of that, it's just not a real

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Speaker 5: strong draft to quarterback position. So I think you need

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Speaker 5: more options than less options. And if you end up

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Speaker 5: drafting a quarterback, I think you still need them. There,

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Speaker 5: you need more than one, and you keep working through it. Now,

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Speaker 5: is there gonna be noise with it? There probably will

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Speaker 5: be noise but look, we're professional head coaches, we're professional

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Speaker 5: general manager and play offices, and that's what you're paid

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Speaker 5: to handle.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. Tom to LESCo, former general manager of the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and Chargers, Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, Happy holidays.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for me our guess. This is always.

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Speaker 5: Tom, Yes, Sarah, Thanks Doug.

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Speaker 4: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Dan buyer, what's the game today?

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Speaker 5: Doug?

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Speaker 4: The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal.

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Speaker 2: Big deal, little deal or no deal. That Chargers quarterback

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert has a fractured left hand.

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Speaker 1: A big deal, right. This guy he gets hurt every year,

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Speaker 1: but he'll play through it if he can. He's a stud, big, big, deal.

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Speaker 2: Do you comp this is Chargers curse or not?

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Speaker 1: No, only you can't play in the next game, then

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Speaker 1: it's hurst.

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Speaker 2: And he said yesterday he would play a week from

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Speaker 2: tonight against the Eagles on Monday Night. Football. All right, Doug,

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Speaker 2: big deal, little deal or no deal. That Klanie Sataki

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Speaker 2: of BYU is Penn State's target to replace James Franklin.

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Speaker 1: A big deal. Love Kalanie Sataki, right, like if you can.

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Speaker 1: I know BYU has a lot of money, but there

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Speaker 1: are the other restrictions to keep from recruiting like Penn

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Speaker 1: State real big boy football. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know anybody who doesn't like or respect Colonie Sataki. He's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Big deal, big deal, little deal or no deal that

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Speaker 2: Texas had football couch. Steve Sarkisian says they will reconsider

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Speaker 2: scheduling scheduling schools like Ohio State in the non conference

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Speaker 2: schedule if they're left out of the College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 1: Uh, little deal, he said, they will consider. I mean,

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Speaker 1: keep in mind SEC only has eight conference games, so

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Speaker 1: it's the ninth, but it's definitely Look, it's a big

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Speaker 1: time game and if they don't get in, I do

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Speaker 1: understand if they have two losses and they played anybody

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Speaker 1: else and they won, they'd be in the College Fall Playoff.

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Speaker 2: And big deal, little deal of no deal that Green

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Speaker 2: Bay is ranked one hundred and ninety ninth in the

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Speaker 2: first net rankings of the season.

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Speaker 1: No deal, nobody cares. At the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: what's your rank? Nine games in? Feels good, but nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: No deal, And that's game time.

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Speaker 4: Game This is game time on The Gottlief Show.

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