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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: We have breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Yep, we hit the record button this evening with enormous

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Speaker 2: breaking news, maybe the cake topper on a season that

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Speaker 2: was already chock full of breaking news. Around five pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern Time on Wednesday evening, ESPN's Chris Lowe reported that

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban had informed his Alabama team that he was retiring.

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Speaker 2: I say officially because I don't know if you saw that.

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Speaker 2: Message board genius is our friend. The Great Twitter account

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you there is something there. Are not to

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Speaker 2: If somebody on the Auburn Live board had some stuff,

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Speaker 2: and there were rumors earlier in the day of a

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Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing that creates a total

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Speaker 2: shockwave in our college football world. We have joked for years, Dan,

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Speaker 2: in the event that Nick Saban retires while we're gone. Well,

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Speaker 2: we come on the airwaves today because Dan, at the

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Speaker 2: ripe old age of seventy two, Nick Saban, perhaps the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it depends where you want to start

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban coach the team, he's the greatest ever. That

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Nick Saban let miss Terry be the I guess

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking a lot about this in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: You know, it got to the point with Sabin, frankly,

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Speaker 2: was it was a Dan Lanning conversation. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 2: not be surprised if there is more sark conversation.

433
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got Sark, You've got I think I saw

434
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 1: Colin Cowards, said Kaylen de Boor, and I guess he's

435
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: cowards from the Northwest. He's connected to a lot of

436
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: West Coast schools and knows a lot of people that

437
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: Greg Byrne, the add Alabama has, you know, had a

438
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: crush on Klen de Boor for some time. I think

439
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: Kaylen de bor has a daughter who is either attending

440
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: or going to soon attend the University of Washington. None

441
00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: of these things matter, right. Everything is changeable, raceable, fixable, transferable.

442
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: It's how do you feel? How do you feel about

443
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: these guys and who would be a fit and who

444
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: is built to take on the one hundred foot wave

445
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: that is Tuscaloose Alabama.

446
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Well, look, for as much as I like Dan Lanning,

447
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: and for as much as I think he has proven

448
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: himself a very very astute recruiter and wielder of all

449
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: things nil, Dan Lanning has a lot to prove as

450
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: a college football coach. There was a notable moment earlier

451
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: in this season where he went for it. Maybe he

452
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't have, right, There were two games this year that

453
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: we've had people send us messages that he.

454
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Was out coached in key moments.

455
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: Sure, whether or not you believe that, whether or not

456
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: that you believe that that devalues him at all, that's

457
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: that's on you.

458
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: But I I don't know.

459
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: If that's worth twenty million dollar buyout. Sark's been there before.

460
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: It's been a long row for Sark. You could certainly

461
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: make the same case for Sark. What's Sark won right,

462
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: But Sark did go to the playoffs, he won the

463
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: Base twelve, he went to the play in the Big twelve.

464
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: He was right, So better throw away from going to

465
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: the national championship game. Yep.

466
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe he's got a little bit more

467
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: body of work to to stand on. And you know,

468
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: you mentioned Kalin Debor. I think it's obvious why he

469
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: might be a target for this as well.

470
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: Who's built in a way that they want to take

471
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: on one hundred foot wave. And you could see based

472
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: on what they've done or what they've shown or what

473
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: they're ceiling, is like, this makes a lot of sense

474
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Speaker 1: of these names.

475
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Speaker 2: If I were picking as an Alabama fan, I'd want

476
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Speaker 2: to go as Sark. Okay, I would want to I

477
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: would want to take Sark because I think it's been

478
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: a slower but methodical build at Texas. He is It's

479
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 2: still toughness in a way that Texas did not previously

480
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: have under the previous regimes. I like the way he

481
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: has built that program. What I don't want to see

482
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: them do is hire Dabo. From a content standpoint, hiring

483
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: Dabo would be gold for us, but as an Alabama fan,

484
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: I don't I get the connective tissue. I totally understand

485
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: why he could be a fit there, But much like

486
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: it was with Jimbo Fisher going to Texas A and

487
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: m hiring Dabbo, at this point, Frankly is a guy

488
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: you're getting on the way down because he doesn't want

489
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: anything to do with the transfer portal. His stance on

490
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: NAL has always been weird and dog. The game is changing,

491
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: The game is changing in a big way. I don't

492
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: think you want to hit your wagon to that philosophy

493
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: at this point in time.

494
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: That's just me.

495
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: So if I'm up, if I'm looking at this list,

496
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: I'm taking Sark, I'm taking Klein de boor I'm taking

497
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning, Mike Norvel For me as a conversation, yeah,

498
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know about any of the other names.

499
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: That have surfaced. Yeah, I know norvellas disappointed Florida State

500
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: fans on the trail as a as a recruiter. Sure

501
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: that he's not on the level of where Jimbo was

502
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: or where Florida State sees itself, you know, finishing with

503
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: top five ish classes annually and really owning that state.

504
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: And of course every Florida fan feels like Billy Napier

505
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: should be doing this, and Mario Christaball should be doing

506
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: this per every Miami fan. That's the nature of the

507
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: beast in the Sunshine State. I think it'd be a

508
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: great hire if the recruiting gets either a boost via

509
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: a staff via you know, a machine at Alabama that

510
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: doesn't exist at Florida State behind the scenes in a

511
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: recruiting department. I think there's a lot of guys who

512
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: make sense if your sark major SEC program in Austin,

513
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: major SEC program in Tuscal lousy might as well just

514
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: stay in Austin, Texas is a major, major national program.

515
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: It's a playoff program. It doesn't make sense moving forward

516
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: in the SEC that you would jump ship to go

517
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: to Alabama. So I don't think that's why his name

518
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: has come up as much olemiss certainly not the program

519
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: Alabama is. Lane Kiffin has has dallied in conversations before.

520
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: Obviously last year there was you know, a lot of

521
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: Auburn steam and he made the announcement to his team

522
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: I think before the Egg Bowl that he was going

523
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: to stick around. But he certainly had conversations or represents

524
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: for Lane Kiffin had conversation with Auburn. So why wouldn't

525
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: you with Alabama unless he was there and knows the

526
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: ins and outs of the place and has decided not

527
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: the place for me. So makes sense certainly with the

528
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: success we're at. Right out of my mouth.

529
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the name that is not on some of these

530
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: lists that I think we all assume is there anyway,

531
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: is Lane Kiffin. Right, if we're going to talk about Sark,

532
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: we got to talk about Kiffin. These are guys who've

533
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: been around that program, been around Saban Yep. To whatever

534
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: extent we've had this conversation about who might be the successor,

535
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: we've always mentioned Sark and Kiffin. So we'll see what

536
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: Greg Burn has to say. Whenever he fires off, he's

537
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: whenever they shoot off the white smoke and decide that

538
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: they're going to tweet again. We'll see to what end

539
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: any of these guys were considered. My hunch is that

540
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: there'd be a lot of reporting.

541
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: I wonder the with potential. I wonder if this job

542
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: is used as a sort of stalking horse for a

543
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: bunch of Jimmy Sick dudes or Trace Armstrong dudes whoever

544
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: to get raises. And not that I mean Alabama's almost

545
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: too good right in some of these cases. We're just like,

546
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: I want to make a bunch of money for a

547
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: long time, not a little bit of money in a

548
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: buyout for a short time. And there's a certain amount

549
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: of security that comes with just not being the Alabama coach,

550
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: Like is it gonna fall all the way to Lanceli Bowld,

551
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Jedfish somebody like that? That's interesting to me. I don't

552
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: think Alabama is going to settle. I think they're going

553
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: to keep upping the dollar amounts and they'll get somebody.

554
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: But that's it's at least a tong on the fork.

555
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: Is that tongue?

556
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: Is that? Or what is it?

557
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Shine? I think it's a toe, a prong, a prong,

558
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: a tie on a fork. That's at least a universe.

559
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: But I think Alabama's they're gonna get a whale. They're

560
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna get somebody. They're gonna pay double digit millions of

561
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: dollars to get that person. Supposedly it's happening. We're recording

562
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: this what Wednesday around nine thirty Eastern as we speak.

563
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: Look if while we're recording the show, it's reported that

564
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning's going an Oregon. I will open and drink

565
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: a beer as we record, and you will get the full,

566
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: unfiltered version. But it won't be how I felt about

567
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Mario Christabaul leaving. I won't be making a video with

568
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: all of the fourth down stops that teams were able

569
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: to mount against Oregon running straight up the middle. There

570
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: there will be it will mostly just be disappointment, not laughter.

571
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a number of names. There are a

572
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: number of names. This is a huge job. It's I

573
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: think there are a number of guys who are going

574
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: to be up for the challenge, and the number of

575
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: guys who are going to say they're up for the

576
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: challenge to get paid by their current place, whether that's

577
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: James Franklin, Because.

578
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: James Franklin being on this list is the work of

579
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Sexton that Jimmy Sexton deserves a bronze statue in

580
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: a bank somewhere. By the way, James Franklin does not

581
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: belong on this list, but that's just me speaking as

582
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: a bit of a frustrated pen state alone.

583
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese available to anybody who need It's an offensive

584
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: coordinator in this moment, right, Yeah, so there's that. I

585
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: think he still has a pretty good reputation as an

586
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: offensive mind. Is it some weird quarterback situations, but has

587
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: a good reputation. Alabama fans might not think so after

588
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: that last play call, which probably could have been executed better,

589
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: But man, I always think about with this opening. I

590
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: was like, what is there a perfect time for Nick

591
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: Saban to leave? Right? Is it after winning a national championship?

592
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: How long I'm fascinated to hear him talk he's going

593
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: to give an interview to Chris Lowe or whoever? How

594
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: long has this been on his mind? Did he want

595
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: to win a national championship and go out like that?

596
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: And then it's just reached the point where he stopped

597
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: wanting to wake up and coach Alabama football? Like, was

598
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: there going to be a succession plan? Is it better?

599
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: In January, where coaches and players have time to move around.

600
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Is it better in June so you sort of lock

601
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: in the roster for the next guy, Like was Bob

602
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: Stoops did that when he passed along to Lincoln Riley?

603
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: That was I was on my honeymoon, So I want

604
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: to say it was around June when that news broke.

605
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: There's never a good time because of this calendar. But

606
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: another name, I have not seen Lincoln Riley's name come up.

607
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I guess he coached his way out of these conversations

608
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: because he used to be right. He was roomed for

609
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: the LSU job right back when right. Fascinating to hear

610
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's timeline and his emotions and his thought press

611
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: that process through this whole thing. And you have more

612
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: access to our company bank account than I do. I

613
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: don't think we can afford Nick Saban as a new

614
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: third co host on this show, but if he goes

615
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: to game Day, we can definitely have him on. That'd

616
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: be great.

617
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: More to come on this story, Dan Rubinstein, we are

618
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: just getting started. The news broke again earlier about five

619
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: pm Eastern Time about Nick Saban walking away from being

620
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: the head coach at Alabama. There will be a lot

621
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: more to come, But my hunch is because it is

622
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: so late in the game, Alabama is going to move

623
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: rather quickly, of course. So we will do our best

624
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: here in our on demand audio format to stay on

625
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: top of it as best we can.

626
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be an off day.

627
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: You and I were just talking about, Ah, it's good

628
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: to stretch our legs and not have to talk about

629
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: college football. Then you called me and said, Ty, you

630
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: got you gotta check your phone.

631
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: I texted you, I slacked you, and then I called you.

632
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on with Ty? I

633
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: think you were researching pizza oven and metav and stuff

634
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: and watching videos because I've convinced you to start making

635
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: pizza as a professional hobby.

636
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

637
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I even from the people I've texted or the

638
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: people that I've texted who have texted like, there's a

639
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of nothing out there, right, there's a lot of

640
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: like the newsbreakers like I've kind of heard this, but

641
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like as we record this show, you know,

642
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: there are other internet shows who are saying there's a

643
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: rumor that Dan Lanning is already in Tuscaloosa. But from

644
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the reputable people, which doesn't necessarily mean anything.

645
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: I think the knowledge of this happening is like of

646
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: this morning, like it has not been a long time

647
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Speaker 1: coming in terms of rumors of this Saban retirement and

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Speaker 1: rumors of like, oh, this guy's immediately going to step in.

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Speaker 1: So I think everybody's sort of furiously texting and calling

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Speaker 1: a few hours after the announcement.

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Speaker 2: Dan, A lot more to come on this story. We

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Speaker 2: again will do our very best to stay on top

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: But we had a break in.

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Speaker 2: We had to break away from our abbreviated vacation, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and talk about the biggest story on top of all

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Speaker 2: the other big stories in the world of college football,

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Speaker 2: the news that Nick Sable walking away after seventeen fruitful

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Speaker 2: seasons at Alabama. We'll see what comes next. More to

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Speaker 2: come for that guy over there, My good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 2: form myself Tie Hilda brand is always you know, the drill,

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, Peace,