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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, the aftermath is upon us, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker with you here on One Bill's Live after the

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Speaker 2: roster was reduced to fifty three. Couple of surprises, twists

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Speaker 2: and turns. We'll get into all of those in due

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Speaker 2: course here this afternoon on the show, along with our

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Speaker 2: topic of discussion which deals with that as well. Before

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Speaker 2: we go any further, we should alert you to the

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Speaker 2: fact that final half hour of the show we will

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Speaker 2: carry Brandon Bean's press conference with the media live here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, so be sure to stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for that, as he will undoubtedly provide some answers to

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Speaker 2: some questions that we're all pondering at this point in time,

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Speaker 2: including the decision to swing a trade with intra division

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Speaker 2: rival New York to acquire a defensive backslash return man

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Speaker 2: in Brandon Codrington. They sent a sixth round draft choice

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six to the Jets in exchange for Codrington,

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Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie out of NC Central, and a seventh

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Speaker 2: round pick. So the Bill sent a sixth to them

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Speaker 2: got a seventh back with Codrington in twenty twenty sixth draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two drafts away.

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Speaker 2: So Codrington, for those that don't know, is a very

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Speaker 2: experienced return man. Had one hundred and twenty career returns

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Speaker 2: in college and they were split evenly pretty much between

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Speaker 2: kick return and punt return. Equally experienced in both. Not

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Speaker 2: a speed demon, runs a four five five, but really

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Speaker 2: did well in the preseason and obviously caught the eye

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Speaker 2: of the Bills. And so just to kind of give

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Speaker 2: you what has numbers looked like in the preseason, Steve.

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Speaker 2: On punt returns in the preseason, he had six for

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Speaker 2: eighty three yards averaged thirteen point eight a punt.

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Speaker 1: Return that'll lead the league most years.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Then on kickoff returns, he let me see here, he

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Speaker 2: had two returns four. So what was his total here?

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Speaker 2: Two returns for seventy five yards to average thirty seven

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Speaker 2: and a half on kick returns. That's thanks mainly to

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Speaker 2: Panthers in preseason Week two.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing I mean, and the Jets and

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Speaker 1: the Jets you're saying, Bills fans are saying, why the

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Speaker 1: Jets getting rid of the guy?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Well, the Jets are necked deep in guys who can.

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Speaker 2: Really have their draft choice Malachi Corley right, who anticipated

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Speaker 2: is going to return on kickoffs, And then they have

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Speaker 2: Xavier Gibson, who was the guy that returned the punt

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Speaker 2: yeah sixty something yards against them in Week one to

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Speaker 2: beat him in overtime.

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Speaker 1: And basically the Bills get him. They trade a draft

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Speaker 1: pick in two years, Yeah, a seventh in two years.

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Speaker 2: They trade a six, get a seven back.

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Speaker 1: Basically, what it means is they just the Jets, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna release the guy, and the Bills can get him

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Speaker 1: without being twenty eighth in the pecking order. So the

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Speaker 1: Bills get the guy. Yeah, they get the guy without

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Speaker 1: him having to go on waivers, and the Jets get

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Speaker 1: something back for the guy instead of just waving him

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Speaker 1: and losing him. Even if the Jets we're going to

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Speaker 1: bring himack to their practice squad, he'd never clear. So

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Speaker 1: the surprising thing is that the Jets gave it to

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Speaker 2: And the interesting thing was news of this kind of

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Speaker 2: Then you found out when roster cuts were made because

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's last draft choice in the twenty twenty four draft day,

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Speaker 2: Kwon Hardy, was cut from the roster. And my thinking is,

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Speaker 2: if Hardy even ends up on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had talked a lot about him. He caught

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Speaker 1: our eye playing dB forget about the return game, which

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Speaker 1: Forte every week reson. He got better as the season

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Speaker 1: the first preseason game against Chicago, he did some that

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Speaker 1: he made some decision errors. But and then the next

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Speaker 2: We're wrong. Eight of Buffalo's ten draft choices did make

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Speaker 2: has an IR designation, the international player Travis Clayton, who

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Speaker 2: Mulano and Darrenton Evans, the running back who sustained a

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Speaker 2: The Bills and every other team in the league at

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Speaker 2: roster cutdown time yesterday, had the opportunity to put up

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Speaker 2: to two players on injured reserve and designate them to return.

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Speaker 2: I would anticipate that Evans is one of those players.

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Speaker 2: We have seen it reported already that Milana is one

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Speaker 2: and the optimism is that Milana will recover from his

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Speaker 2: regular season is over. December is a month that has

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Speaker 2: in terms of designated to return.

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Speaker 1: We're already getting reports out now that the Bills are

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Speaker 1: gonna have Frank Gorge Junior is gonna be back on

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Speaker 1: the Bills practice squad. That's been reported by Tom Pellisero

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Speaker 1: you don't know if it's gonna happen. And of course

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Speaker 1: we always anticipate so many teams are gonna say, oh

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Speaker 1: Nobody did that. Most somebody got was the Panthers, the

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Speaker 1: first team in the order got like six guys. Nobody else.

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Speaker 2: Patriots were the next with four four and then had

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Speaker 2: one or two, and just so everybody knows, no Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills cuts were claimed on waivers, and the Bills did

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Speaker 2: It's a twenty four hour period and then the practice

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Speaker 2: and bolts of some of the decision making. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: headline was the hometown kid made good to pee. Native

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Speaker 2: Lancaster High School grad UB former UB player Joe Andresen

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Speaker 2: made the fifty three man roster for Buffalo, and you

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Speaker 2: can slice it any way you want. He was fortunate

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Speaker 2: due to the injuries at his position, but man did

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Speaker 2: so much so that he earned a roster spot. So

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Speaker 2: you know, Milano on IR and probably there until December.

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Speaker 1: There's a spot form.

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Speaker 2: There's a spot form.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's nothing that says it might change within

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Speaker 1: the next week. I mean, who knows, because that's just

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Speaker 1: the way the NFL is and when you're down and

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Speaker 1: when you're on the roster and you're a special teams

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Speaker 1: guy like Andresen is probably gonna be. You got to

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Speaker 1: a it's a volatile business, but you know that's something

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Speaker 1: I I'm glad the Bills did that, even if their

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Speaker 1: to have him on there for a minute. Good good

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Speaker 1: on him for giving him this chance and giving him

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Speaker 1: the giving us all the summer of watching this guy play,

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Speaker 1: it's been fun. And I'm and I think you know

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Speaker 1: from what I saw, he's a guy that brings something

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Speaker 1: He brings a lot of heart and desire. He's big

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Speaker 1: So I'm uh, I'm really excited about it. He earned it.

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Speaker 1: There's no question by we all could see it. But

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Speaker 1: it could have been another thing like like the one

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about Da Kwon Hardy. We might

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Speaker 1: not have known what we were looking at and they

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Speaker 1: So Joe Andreesen from Lancaster is in and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of that is very cool. You just gotta admit, it's

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Speaker 2: Yes, and word traveled fast around Western New York once

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Speaker 2: it was known that Andresen made the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it even got back to

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Speaker 2: the Lancaster High School football team, which is in the

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Speaker 2: went something like this, Steve.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, last thing today, Exacond want to let you

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Speaker 4: know that Jo fifty three roster for the Buffalo Bells.

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Speaker 2: Oh kind of cool. I mean, none of those kids

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think about it, dreams alive. It's a hey,

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Speaker 1: But that was really cool to see, and good good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. So that was kind of

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Speaker 2: the headline of the fifty three man roster. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: eight of the ten draft choices made the fifty three

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Speaker 2: Among the other news and notes from the fifty three

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Speaker 2: man roster, only five receivers. Uh the Bills at the

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Speaker 2: outset last year when they first put the fifty three

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Speaker 2: with just five receivers all season last year. So this

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Speaker 2: is not an unusual thing by any means. So five receivers,

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Speaker 2: and it's Coleman, Shakir Hollins, Marquez Valdez, Scantling, and then

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Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel those were you're five.

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Speaker 1: It's also being reported now that the Bills are going

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Speaker 1: to resign kJ Hamler to their practice squad.

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Speaker 2: And that makes sense to me because once we did

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Speaker 2: not see de Kwon Hardy on this roster. I think

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Speaker 2: from a depth perspective, at the return position. That's probably

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Speaker 1: You and I had this conversation before we came on.

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Speaker 1: Including two guys on the on the injured reserve list,

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Speaker 1: there are eleven DB's on the roster, so hard to

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Speaker 2: This was expected to be a formality vote. It passed

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Speaker 1: buy it to the moment the owner sells it. You're

437
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Speaker 1: not getting any revenue off the top of that. You're

438
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Speaker 1: getting it's just an investment and you get tickets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically that's it. Uh quickly some other notes of interest.

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys have signed veteran free agent running back

441
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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook to their practice squad after he made a

442
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Speaker 2: free agent visit on Tuesday. The older brother of Bill's

443
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Speaker 2: running back James Cook, now twenty nine years old, has

444
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Speaker 2: four Pro Bowls on his NFL resume. If I if

445
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Speaker 2: I asked you, Steve, how many career rushing yards you

446
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Speaker 2: thought Dalvin Cook had? I and I told you he

447
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Speaker 2: was twenty nine, what would you say he had four

448
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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl.

449
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Speaker 1: Seasons between fifty five hundred and sixty five hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you nail it. He's sixty two hundred career rushing yards.

451
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Speaker 2: I figured he'd have more, but whatever. NFL Networks Mike

452
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Speaker 2: Garrafolo reports the forty nine ers are not close to

453
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Speaker 2: a deal with left tackle Trent Williams. Williams, as you know,

454
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: has said he won't report to the team until his

455
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Speaker 2: contract includes more guaranteed money. Williams is thirty six years

456
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Speaker 2: old and has skipped the entire offseason program and is

457
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Speaker 2: looking less and less likely to be ready for their

458
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Speaker 2: Week one game against the Jets. Meanwhile, Brandon Ayuk remains

459
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Speaker 2: a hold in and it doesn't seem like there's been

460
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Speaker 2: a lot of movement there either. So San Francisco with

461
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Speaker 2: some stuff on their to do list with two of

462
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Speaker 2: their more talented players, deadlines have a way of getting

463
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Speaker 2: things done. We'll see if things change dramatically in one

464
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Speaker 2: camp or the other between now and the opener, which

465
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Speaker 2: now for the for week one for all the teams

466
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Speaker 2: besides the Chiefs and the Ravens who play Thursday night

467
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Speaker 2: a week from tomorrow. Now you're eleven ten, eleven days

468
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Speaker 2: away here, So yeah, the Rubbers got to meet the

469
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Speaker 2: road in short order if you're going to get a

470
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Speaker 2: contract enhancement for Williams and a brand new one.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned this yesterday. This is also the time of

472
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Speaker 1: year when you see stuff like that get done. You

473
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Speaker 1: saw you know, Ceedee Lamb sign with the Cowboys and

474
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Speaker 1: get that deal done. You'll probably see a flurry of

475
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Speaker 1: deals like that now within the last week or so

476
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Speaker 1: leading up to training camp. Now they got their cost

477
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: their cost is set, their rosters set, they know what

478
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Speaker 1: their overruns and under you know, their cost certainty is there,

479
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: and they can understand what they can spend and they'll say, okay,

480
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Speaker 1: we can get this guy done and this guy done.

481
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Speaker 1: So you'll see some teams do that. Brandon Bean has

482
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Speaker 1: done that in the past, so you can for that

483
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Speaker 1: around the league. We'll start talking about that in the

484
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Speaker 1: coming days. I'm sure that those stories are going to

485
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Speaker 1: pop up from around the league as teams start to

486
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Speaker 1: get guys. You know, extended and restructured.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today obviously concerns Buffalo's newly

488
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Speaker 2: formed roster. We want to ask you at eight oh

489
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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eight and eight five fifty

490
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Speaker 2: two five point fifty what was your biggest surprise with

491
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Speaker 2: the phil Bill's fifty three man roster eight oh three

492
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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

493
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Speaker 2: five fifty is the number to get on board. We

494
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Speaker 2: are up against the break, have to step aside here,

495
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Speaker 2: but we'll lead off with Bruce and Derby and Tom

496
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Speaker 2: on the west side when we return here on One

497
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

498
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Speaker 2: All right, topic a discussion pretty straightforward here on one

499
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. What was your biggest with the Bills fifty

500
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Speaker 2: three man roster? Eight o three five fifty one eight

501
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: five fifty two fifty the number to get on board?

502
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: Get some open lines for you. But we lead off

503
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Speaker 2: with Bruce down in Derry. What do you got for us? Bruce?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how you doing today? Just a couple of things?

505
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Speaker 6: Uh?

506
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Speaker 5: This number forty four kid, If I'm not mistaken, He

507
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 5: reminds me a lot of the guy that's out right

508
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 5: now with a torn by seth muscle when he was younger. Yeah,

509
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: he's all over the field.

510
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: I like that.

511
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Speaker 5: I'm glad he made the fifty three. And the other

512
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: reason why I wanted to call was, uh, it's just

513
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 5: kind of irritating this thing with these guys on on

514
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 5: the online. You know, Josh Allen's voted blah blah blah.

515
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: This all comes from guys that probably never strapped up

516
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 5: a day in their life. Because every once in a while,

517
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Speaker 5: I'll go down that rabbit hole, I'll press the button

518
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, that's all I got.

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Speaker 2: To sale, no problem.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Bruce, here's the thing. It was one

521
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Speaker 1: hundred and three other NFL players. So it wasn't just

522
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: guys who had never strapped it up. It was players

523
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Speaker 1: who played against him. Now, why only and only uh

524
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: ten or eleven of that one hundred and three said

525
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Josh was the guy? And that's everybody else that It

526
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: was scattered all over the league. So Josh got ten

527
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Speaker 1: percent of the vote in terms of over being overrated.

528
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Speaker 1: So it wasn't like everybody thought that.

529
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Speaker 2: And it might be a little misleading.

530
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Speaker 1: And you don't even know what one hundred and three

531
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Speaker 1: players it might have been offensive players doing, you know,

532
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: saying that. So yeah, it's thank goodness for the people

533
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Speaker 1: who ran the pole that they did that, because otherwise

534
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: the pole would have gotten zero attention. So they gave

535
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Speaker 1: him something. Of course that they headlined the entire story

536
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Speaker 1: about the poll with that, because Josh is you know,

537
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: he's a superstar, So.

538
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Speaker 2: Thank Look, I'm encouraged by Joey Andreeson's play as much

539
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: as the next guy. Let's hold off on the Milano comparisons.

540
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Speaker 2: You're talking about an All Pro there. With all due

541
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: respect to Milano, I will say this about Joe's game.

542
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: It's very clear that he is an instinctive player and

543
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: he has a feel for the game. I don't think

544
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Speaker 2: that can be debated for a second. And those two

545
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: things can take you a long way in this league,

546
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Speaker 2: provided you have the requisite baseline athleticism that's necessary to

547
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Speaker 2: play in this league. So yeah, I think he earned

548
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Speaker 2: a spot on the fifty three man roster. I don't

549
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: think there's any question about that. But you know, you

550
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Speaker 2: want to start making comparisons to an All Pro. We

551
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Speaker 2: may want to hold off on that just for a

552
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Speaker 2: second here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this too, that the smarter you are,

554
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: the better your chances are, because you usually have a

555
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: better sense of what you've got to do in order

556
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Speaker 1: to give yourself a chance. Joe obviously he had a chance,

557
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: knew what he had to do to do it, and

558
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, basically capitalized. He capitalized. And one of the

559
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Speaker 1: things about it was some of the stuff and we're

560
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: watching the highlights now he's given hands signals to the DVA.

561
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Speaker 1: He they gave him, you know, the green dot. I

562
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Speaker 1: believe in the Pittsburgh game because you know, there was

563
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: nobody left standing and he mentally was there. He got

564
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Speaker 1: everybody lined up and did the right thing, and that's

565
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Speaker 1: that's hard to do. He did it. Yeah, and that

566
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Speaker 1: I think was Yeah, that was the most impressive thing

567
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Speaker 1: about his entire you know, a little run here over

568
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Speaker 1: the last month was the fact that that he mentally

569
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Speaker 1: he was all over it. And you know, so that's

570
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Speaker 1: always the trump card.

571
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Speaker 2: But even talking to coach McDermott, he said, it's clear

572
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Speaker 2: he has instincts and a feel for the game. And

573
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Speaker 2: as we know, if you have those things, you can

574
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: make a lot of plays in this league. Let's get

575
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Speaker 2: back to the phones and to Tom on the west side.

576
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Speaker 2: What's up Tom?

577
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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, have me day after listen. I'm really happy

578
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 7: they kept Hamdler and Gore on the practice squad. I

579
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 7: didn't think either one of them would clear waivers. Hamdler

580
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Speaker 7: for the fact that I think he could back up

581
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 7: Curtis Samuel as being a Swiss Army knife. Now I

582
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 7: don't know if either of them could play quarterback, but

583
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Speaker 7: that would be interesting to hear. And then Gore after

584
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 7: his eighteen carry hundred and yard performance. Albeit it was

585
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 7: against the twos and threes, but the offensive line of

586
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 7: defensive line were also twos and threes. I'm really happy

587
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 7: they kept Buffalo Joe Andrason on the team because he

588
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 7: never would have cleared waivers, and I'm wondering how easy

589
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 7: he would it be for them. I know they could

590
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 7: bring in new players, they could still pick up other

591
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 7: players and then moved Joe off, but could they put

592
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Speaker 7: them down. Don't know the practice squad without claaring waivers

593
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Speaker 7: and how would that work? And then please quarify for

594
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: me again how they can protect four players on the

595
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 7: practice squad right but how exactly does that work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, Tom, I mean yes, I mean if

597
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: they I don't think the roster is set in stone.

598
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: Initial fifty three man rosters usually see some tweaks over

599
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: that first week leading into the first game of the season,

600
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Speaker 2: so I wouldn't be surprised if we see that, Yes,

601
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: you can protect four players on the practice squad. I'm

602
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: gonna probably have to read a refresher myself. But every

603
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: week you have to list the four players you are protecting.

604
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: You can change it, obviously, because practice squads change in

605
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: terms of who is on and who is not on

606
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: it through the course of the year, And every week

607
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: you have to send into the league who the four

608
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: are that you are protecting. And that means another team

609
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: cannot poach them off your practice squad and sign them

610
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: to your active to their active roster, which is how

611
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: that works. That's the only way a team can take

612
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: a guy off your practice squad. They have to sign

613
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: them to their fifty three man roster because it's deemed

614
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: as a better opportunity. Now, I should tell you that

615
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: there have been instances where when a player has been

616
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: offered the opportunity to go to another team's active roster

617
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: that they have turned it down and chosen to stay

618
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: with their current club because they know as well as

619
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Speaker 2: anybody else there's going to be a learning curve involved. Well,

620
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go there. I'll be on the active roster,

621
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Speaker 2: but I'm not going to be ready to play this

622
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: week because I got to learn that whole system and

623
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Speaker 2: everything that they're going to ask of me. How long

624
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: is that going to take? Is that going to be

625
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: a better opportunity than the one I could potentially have

626
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: here where if there's just one injury at my position,

627
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm going up right. So those are things that they

628
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: weigh out, and sometimes NFL clubs, if they don't want

629
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Speaker 2: to lose the player to another team and their fifty

630
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: three man roster, will elevate them in themselves and put

631
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Speaker 2: them on their own fifty three man roster to hold

632
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Speaker 2: on to them. So those are common practices that we've

633
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: seen over the years. So, yeah, it's not any you know,

634
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: it's not perfect, but it certainly has afforded gms around

635
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: the league a lot more roster flexibility. Let's go to

636
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: Rob in Connecticut. What's up Rob?

637
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Speaker 8: Hello, Chris and Steve, how are you doing. It's always

638
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 8: a pleasure to reconnoy with you guys, and you know,

639
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 8: you guys, I love the fact that Zach played that

640
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 8: clip with the Lancaster High School football That gave me chills,

641
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 8: Like yeah, that that, I mean, come on that that's awesome,

642
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 8: a great story. Of course, I'm with everybody else as

643
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 8: far as the Buffalo Bills fan, you know, Joe Andres

644
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 8: and making it that's he earned it, like Steve said.

645
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 8: And I'm also happy about Frank Gored, you know, getting

646
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 8: back on the practice squad, you know. And and I

647
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 8: have to say this that as far as Josh Allen,

648
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 8: you know, being overrated, you know, I chuckle. But being

649
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 8: at the fact that Bristol, Connecticut's only right up the street,

650
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 8: I can always like put on my Bills gear and

651
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 8: knock on the door and tell them to like kind

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Speaker 8: of change it a little bit. Maybe they can do

653
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Speaker 8: something else to I'll represent Bill's mafia and and tell

654
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Speaker 8: them they need to change that. So put out another poll.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 9: But what I wanted to get to basically was, you know,

657
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Speaker 9: there really isn't any surprises for me other than the

658
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 9: fact that my concern is I love Shakir I think

659
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 9: he's gonna do well. I believe Kincaide's gonna do well,

660
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 9: but I'm still kind of apprehensive with the wide receiving core.

661
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Speaker 9: I just hope that they're very productive and help out

662
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 9: Josh by, you know, being productive. That's only my main concern.

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Speaker 9: With that being said, it's always a pleasure and you

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Speaker 9: guys have a wonderful day. Keep doing your job. You

665
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Speaker 9: do it very well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Rob, appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, I would say

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Speaker 2: I understand your level of trepidation about the receiving corps because,

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Speaker 2: more than anything, I think it's the fear of the unknown.

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Speaker 2: You are walking into a season with a receiving corps

671
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Speaker 2: in which the only returning player is Khalil Shakir. Everybody

672
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: else is new Coleman Samuel Hollins Valdez Scantling, eighty percent

673
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: of your receiving corps is new. That's uncommon turnover from

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Speaker 2: one year to the next. So I understand the concern,

675
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: and that's really what it is. It's fear of the unknown.

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Speaker 2: You have nothing to go off of to know what

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Speaker 2: to expect from this receiving corps, with this quarterback and

678
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: this offensive system as a matter of fact, you don't

679
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Speaker 2: even know what the offensive system is going to look

680
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Speaker 2: like because Joe Brady, I can promise you, is going

681
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: to change this thing and has not shown one iota

682
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Speaker 2: of what his plans are for the regular season. So

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Speaker 2: when you don't know and there isn't a lot of

684
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Speaker 2: information to go on, it's only natural to be concerned.

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Speaker 2: But I think there is talent there. I know Steve

686
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Speaker 2: is bullish on the offense. I think the timing of

687
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Speaker 2: the passing game. If you're concerned about anything, it's probably

688
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: that the timing of the passing game might have, you know,

689
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: a few hiccups in it the first few weeks of

690
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Speaker 2: the season, because as much as you practice the timing

691
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Speaker 2: of the passing game in the practice setting, it is

692
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: still not the same as game speed, and that can

693
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Speaker 2: alter the timing and the effectiveness and efficiency of that timing.

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Speaker 2: And I think it might take a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: for them to get in a groove and really look

696
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Speaker 2: like they're humming. As far as throwing the football.

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Speaker 1: Worst case scenario is to get more injuries. But aside

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Speaker 1: from that worst case scenarios, it takes, like Brownie said,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks for them to do it. Don't

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the case. I think they're gonna

701
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Speaker 1: hum offensively. I you know, I now since they since

702
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Speaker 1: everybody now is throwing dirt on Josh Allen, maybe we

703
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Speaker 1: get another Maybe get another opening day like we had

704
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Speaker 1: last year where he's throwing the ball over and he

705
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: turns it over and all that, but then settles down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with the sugar high Josh. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that'll happen. But here's the thing. Josh is gonna

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Speaker 1: I think Josh, with the receivers they have on this

709
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Speaker 1: roster and the running back and the offensive line, I

710
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: think they can they can carve them up, carf people up.

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Speaker 1: I think their their offensive line is gonna protect extremely well.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to run the football whenever they want,

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Speaker 1: and it's they're gonna be a problem in that regard.

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna when you we can run the football

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Speaker 1: whenever you want and do it effectively, teams, team's got

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Speaker 1: a real problem because you got Josh back there, who

717
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Speaker 1: can make every throw in the book and can threaten

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Speaker 1: every corner of the feet no matter where you're lined up.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem for defenses. I think they're just gonna

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Speaker 1: be an absolute load to handle defensively. This offense. It

721
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Speaker 1: may take, they may not even if they're even if

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Speaker 1: they have a couple of hiccups. They're gonna score points.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be a load, and I think they're gonna

724
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Speaker 1: be really hard to get off the field. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna convert third downs. I think they're

726
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Speaker 1: gonna get more first downs than anybody else in the

727
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Speaker 1: foot in National Football League this year at the end

728
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Speaker 1: of the season, and they're gonna score in the top

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Speaker 1: two or three in points. So that's what I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't care that we haven't seen

731
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Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel play in a Bills uniform. He's been in

732
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Speaker 1: the league. You know what he's gonna get. Khalil Shakir,

733
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid, mac Hollins, for goodness sake, Dawson Knox there. Yeah,

734
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Speaker 1: and this just in you got a guy who's gonna

735
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: be in the conversation again for the MVP. So the

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Speaker 1: offense is not an area concern for me.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here. When we come back, we'll

738
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Speaker 2: get to Jim and Hilton David in Rochester. As we're

739
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Speaker 2: asking you what was your biggest surprise with the bills?

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Speaker 2: Fifty three man roster eight O three oh five to

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Speaker 2: week from Sunday Week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's see two hundred and sixty some odd

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00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: hours away from kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Good Live math by you.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: We got to get back to the phones at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

758
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: two five point fifty, asking you what was the biggest

759
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: surprise for you on the Bills fifty three man roster

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Speaker 2: to Jim and Hilton we go what he got first gym.

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Speaker 10: Good afternoon, Chris and see I love your show, are you.

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00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 10: First of all, I'm happy with the fifty three man roster.

763
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 10: I think they did very well. But I have one

764
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 10: question I'm wondering. Is Tommy Doyle still on reserve injured

765
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 10: or is he off the team altogether?

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00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was. He was put on reserve injured list,

767
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: and when you do that before you established the fifty

768
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: three man roster, you essentially end that player's season. And truthfully,

769
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Speaker 2: I don't know that he was going to be healthy

770
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: enough to come back any way. So yes, for all

771
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: intents and purposes, he's not going to appear on the

772
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Speaker 2: roster this year, even though he is with the club

773
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Speaker 2: with an injury designation.

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Speaker 10: I see I had a comment about about Josh Allen's

775
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 10: underrated situation. I would love to know because I don't

776
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 10: have the records to be able to research this myself,

777
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 10: but I would love to know how many games in

778
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 10: his career he was ahead when he left the field

779
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 10: for the last time. Oh yeah, and I think like

780
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 10: the thirteen second game, obviously he was ahead when he left,

781
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 10: and then of course they lost the coin toss, so

782
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 10: he never came back. The Denver game last year, I

783
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 10: know they were ahead. I think even in the Jets

784
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 10: game at the beginning of the year, they were ahead

785
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Speaker 10: when he left.

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Speaker 1: I did in the regular season. I was told last

787
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: year in the regular season, four out of the six

788
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: losses a Bill had, he was coming off the field

789
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: with the lead inside of two minutes. Okay, I don't

790
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: know if that's exactly accurate, though. Yeah, I didn't check that.

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Speaker 3: My and I.

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00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: He's got thirteen fourth quarter comebacks in his career. He's

793
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: got nineteen game winning drives in his six seasons as

794
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: a starter. So I mean, I think this is all

795
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: stuff that, yeah, and isn't surprising to us in any way.

796
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: And Jim, thanks for the call. We got to move along. Yeah,

797
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 2: I mean, we know he's clutch, and that's really all.

798
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: That you think back to. The one that sticks in

799
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: your mind is the Hail Murray the team they're going

800
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: to play opening Day. He walked off the field after

801
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: hitting Steph Diggs in the corner of the nizone with

802
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: him made a super thirty two seconds left a superhuman throw.

803
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Walks off the field after you know, giving him the

804
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: lead and then and ends up losing that game. So yeah,

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: that's that's happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to David in Rochester next. What's up, David?

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Speaker 11: Hey, thanks for choking my college.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 11: Well, my question is kind of simple. VI curious for

810
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 11: a while. How did the NFL come up with the

811
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 11: number fifty three for the roster? It seems kind of

812
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 11: on the low end for me. I'd like to see,

813
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 11: you know, a few more to give me an explanation.

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00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 11: I'll hang up and listen.

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Speaker 1: It started out, I mean, back in the day, it

816
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: was like thirty six, and then the eighty two players strike,

817
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: he got up to forty two. Then after that it

818
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: was up to forty seven, and finally they settled on

819
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: fifty three. It's crept up over the years, and that

820
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: has gone up commenser with the growth of the league

821
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: and with the expansion of the rule book as well,

822
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: given teams access to more players, and you know, and

823
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: structuring the players that are allowed to keep around the building.

824
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: Because right now, effectively the roster's like sixty nine guys,

825
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: with sixteen on the practice squad and fifty three on

826
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Speaker 1: the active roster. You have access to fifty nine, although

827
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: on game day, it's still only forty eight if you

828
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: have an offensive lineman eight offensive linemen. So that it's

829
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Speaker 1: been meticulously negotiated with the players union over the years,

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Speaker 1: and it has expanded incrementally over the decades up to

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Speaker 1: the point where it's fifty three now and you're forty

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Speaker 1: eight on game day. I think if you see you

833
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: can anticipate this as well, David, when the league tries

834
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Speaker 1: to get their eighteen game schedule passed, which they will,

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Speaker 1: that the union, the players Union, will ask for some

836
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Speaker 1: concessions in regards to that, and it won't be about

837
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Speaker 1: it won't be just a larger roster, and it won't

838
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: be just a different off season and what they can

839
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: do allowed to do with the players. It will also

840
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: be revenue sharing. They'll probably try and get at least

841
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: to the fifty percent mark of the league revenue. It's

842
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: forty eight and a half now. The teams will probably say, hey, listen,

843
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: you got to are the players will probab say you

844
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: got to give us fifty percent. Go fifty to fifty

845
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: with us across the board. So stuff like that, and

846
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: that's how the roster size has been determined over the years.

847
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: It's all negotiated with the players union, and it has

848
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: grown commensurate or I think commensurate with you know, the

849
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: salary cap and the revenues of the team and the

850
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: league itself. So that's how it got to be that

851
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: way it started. It used to be thirty six guys

852
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: or something like that. It's unbelievable in the sixties and seventies,

853
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: and finally they said, listen, we need some help, and

854
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: they've started giving it to them.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but when we come

856
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: back and a catch up with Pro Football focuses Trevor

857
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: Sikkima to kind of go over Buffalo's fifty three man

858
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: roster and who he has on his radar offensively for

859
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: the Bills to you know, maybe take off this season.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with Trevor next. Here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: analyst Trevor Sikhima joining us as he has done before,

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Speaker 2: and we should tell you it's fantasy draft season and

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Speaker 2: My god, you guys are doing that already. If that's

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Speaker 2: and check out PFF plus. Good Grief, Trevor, You guys,

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Speaker 2: that's like almost borderline illness. Twenty twenty five draft. What

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Speaker 2: the hell, man.

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Speaker 12: We gotta be ready.

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Speaker 13: We got to be any time fans might want to,

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Speaker 13: you know, dip their toe in the water to the

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Speaker 13: next draft season, we got to be ready. So we've

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Speaker 13: been watching the tape all summer. We would getting ready

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Speaker 13: for it, and uh yeah, whenever you guys want to

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Speaker 13: just take a look at what could be the twenty

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Speaker 13: twenty five NFL Draft.

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Speaker 12: All we're saying is we got you a PFF dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll catch you up with the in March.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of football to go here, and

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Speaker 1: you know, being now that anything surprising league wide, Any

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Speaker 1: surprises or major surprises for you around the league that

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Speaker 1: you know, guys who aren't there are there, or trends

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Speaker 1: that you're noticing at PFF. Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I just feel as though the amount of

894
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Speaker 13: rookies that have made rosters all over the NFL has

895
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Speaker 13: been surprising to me, just the strength of draft classes.

896
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Speaker 13: I know that the Bills believe that they got a

897
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Speaker 13: really strong draft class, keeping a lot of the rookies

898
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Speaker 13: that they were able to keep, but I just feel

899
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Speaker 13: as though throughout the league we're seeing teams keep more

900
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Speaker 13: of their total draft classes. You know, before when we

901
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 13: would go into drafts, we would kind of say to yourself,

902
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 13: as you know, Day three guys, they're flyer guys. Anyways,

903
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 13: they're probably not going to make the roster. That's not

904
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 13: really how we can talk about these guys. I mean,

905
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Speaker 13: we're looking at the very least fourth and fifth round

906
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Speaker 13: picks of players who have a genuine shot to make rosters.

907
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 12: Because it just.

908
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 13: Feels as though teams always want to get younger, and

909
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 13: I feel like we are seeing that more now, more

910
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Speaker 13: than we ever have. And so I just feel a

911
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 13: trend that I've seen around the league is the sheer

912
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Speaker 13: amount of draft picks that these teams are keeping on

913
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 13: the I don't want to call them final fifth the

914
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Speaker 13: three man rosters, but cut down days getting down to

915
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Speaker 13: the fifty three man rosters.

916
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Speaker 12: We're seeing a lot of rookies around the NFL be

917
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Speaker 12: able to stick.

918
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Speaker 1: What you what are your thoughts though on that being

919
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Speaker 1: maybe more of an economic decision rather than a production decision,

920
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Speaker 1: you know, instead of you know, letting go of a

921
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Speaker 1: guy who's making a ton of money and keeping the

922
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Speaker 1: guys and plus gms want to look good, so they

923
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Speaker 1: want their their their draft picks to stick around. And

924
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Speaker 1: most teams do have a cap some cap issues, particularly

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Speaker 1: the top ones. You know, when they're coming in and

926
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Speaker 1: going to be a contender, they've got some guys they

927
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Speaker 1: need to pay and have needed to keep around, so

928
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Speaker 1: they've got economic situation. How much of that are these

929
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Speaker 1: rookies making the roster and what percentage of these rookies

930
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Speaker 1: are actually going to say, Wow, this guy's going to contribute,

931
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Speaker 1: particularly after the first, second, or third round.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, there's obviously I think you obviously bring up really

933
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Speaker 13: good points of elements that could go into the reason

934
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Speaker 13: why you are keeping parts of the rookie class. You know,

935
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Speaker 13: it's an opportunity either way for these guys that are

936
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Speaker 13: young drafted players, So I think now have a better

937
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Speaker 13: chance to stick in the league. But for sure, I

938
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Speaker 13: think that when we look at these massive contracts they're

939
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Speaker 13: being handed out. Sure, the salary cap is going up

940
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Speaker 13: every single year, but it feels as though the guys

941
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Speaker 13: at the very top, especially these premium positions that we're

942
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Speaker 13: seeing quarterback, which has always been the case, but pass rushers,

943
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Speaker 13: pass protectors, wide receivers like these guys are getting a

944
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Speaker 13: good chunk of money. And I think that the inflation,

945
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Speaker 13: if you will, for top five, top eight position money

946
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Speaker 13: for those positions specifically has gone up at a higher

947
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Speaker 13: percentage than the cap has. I don't know those numbers

948
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Speaker 13: off the top of my head. That's just the way

949
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Speaker 13: that it feels. So if you are doing that, maybe

950
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Speaker 13: overpaying if you will, using air quotes when I say overpay,

951
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Speaker 13: because value is kind of what a guy brings back

952
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Speaker 13: to your team. To your point, keeping rookies makes you

953
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Speaker 13: more flexible on the cap.

954
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Speaker 12: It gives you the ability to go.

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Speaker 13: Out and pay these players higher dollars, whether it's outside

956
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Speaker 13: guys in free agency or keeping your own guys when

957
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Speaker 13: they really are able to break out. So's there's no

958
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Speaker 13: doubt about it that there has always been a financial

959
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Speaker 13: component of keeping a rookie. And like you mentioned, gms

960
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Speaker 13: want to make themselves look good for the draft picks

961
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Speaker 13: they had, so they'll let them stick around. But regardless

962
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Speaker 13: of how we got here, it's still it's a trend

963
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Speaker 13: of man, even if you are something like a fourth, fifth,

964
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Speaker 13: sixth round pick, we are seeing those types of players

965
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Speaker 13: get more opportunities to stick around than I feel like

966
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Speaker 13: we did even five six years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Bills clearly fall into this boat because

968
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Speaker 2: after the Digs trade and choosing to eat and bite

969
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Speaker 2: the bullet of twenty something million dollars on their cap

970
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Speaker 2: to do it, they had to go with a youth

971
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Speaker 2: movement here in many ways, they ultimately keep eight of

972
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Speaker 2: their ten draft choices on the fifty three man roster.

973
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Speaker 2: But here's an example of where I feel there could

974
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Speaker 2: be a little bit of concern. Even though you have

975
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Speaker 2: talent on Buffalo's offensive line, they're starting five as strong,

976
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Speaker 2: we know that, but here are there four backups of

977
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Speaker 2: the nine linemen they kept Cedric van pran Graingrew, who

978
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Speaker 2: I think we all like a lot and has a

979
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Speaker 2: bright future in the NFL, but no NFL regular season

980
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Speaker 2: games to his name. Tyland Grabile, their six round draft

981
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Speaker 2: choice young at the position of tackle, showed some encouraging

982
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Speaker 2: signs in the preseason, again no NFL regular season games

983
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Speaker 2: to his resume. And then after that it's Alec Anderson,

984
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Speaker 2: who hasn't appeared in an NFL regular season game, who's

985
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: been here a couple of years and been grown and

986
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Speaker 2: groomed in the system. And then Ryan Vandermark, their swing tackle,

987
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Speaker 2: who has all of twelve games on his resume. So

988
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Speaker 2: of the entire list of backups on Buffalo's offensive line,

989
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Speaker 2: you have a lot of encouraging young talent, but you

990
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Speaker 2: also have a tremendous amount of inexperience if any of

991
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Speaker 2: them have to play significant time. I'm sure, Trevor that

992
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: that's probably not unique to the Bills, but it's still

993
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Speaker 2: for a team here that has had largely the same

994
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Speaker 2: roster for a number of years in the McDermott regime.

995
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Speaker 2: It is new territory.

996
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Speaker 13: Yeah, and I think that to your point of what

997
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 13: we're talking about here, sort of have to pick your

998
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 13: spots on the roster to do that, and it's it's

999
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Speaker 13: hard to find one that you'd even be okay saying like, yeah,

1000
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Speaker 13: all right, we're cool with inexperience here.

1001
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Speaker 12: You always want experience.

1002
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Speaker 13: Experience is absolutely king, and I think it's sort of

1003
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Speaker 13: just the way the chips fell, you know, I'm not

1004
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Speaker 13: sure that Buffalo who you know, these teams they don't

1005
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 13: necessarily operate with just like one year out plans, like.

1006
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Speaker 12: It's two year, it's three year, it's five year.

1007
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Speaker 13: They've got these long term plans, so I'm sure a

1008
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Speaker 13: couple of years ago they weren't saying to themselves, hey,

1009
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 13: we want to have an extremely young and inexperienced backup

1010
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 13: offensive line. But again, the moves that you make, you've

1011
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 13: kind of got to be able to adjust from your plan,

1012
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 13: and you've got to be able to have faith in

1013
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 13: some of these guys that you are drafting. And that's

1014
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Speaker 13: why I think a draft has gained a lot of

1015
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 13: popularity over I would say the last five years, not

1016
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 13: only because it's sort of become a spectacle, but there's

1017
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 13: more media coverage of it. Fans can feel more involved

1018
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 13: because they do a little bit more research and things

1019
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 13: like that. But it's also the fact that younger players

1020
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 13: are getting these opportunity unity is sooner than I think

1021
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 13: they ever have an NFL history. I remember even when

1022
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 13: I kind of just started doing this for fun, you know,

1023
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 13: ten twelve years ago, unless you got drafted in the

1024
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Speaker 13: first round, like given second third round picks, it was

1025
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 13: no guarantee that they were going to start right away.

1026
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 13: Now it feels like if you're drafted in the top

1027
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 13: one hundred, they want you to contribute right away. And

1028
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Speaker 13: so that's just sort of where we're at here. When

1029
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 13: you get drafted, there is an expectation that not only

1030
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 13: do you have a good chance to make this roster,

1031
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 13: but if somebody goes down, you've got to be willing

1032
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 13: to step up.

1033
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 12: And we're seeing that all over the place.

1034
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Speaker 13: I don't know how much of it is just sort

1035
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 13: of kind of where the game is going. We talked

1036
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Speaker 13: about a salary cap element of it, or maybe it's

1037
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 13: just some impatience as well. I think that there is

1038
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 13: an element of that that that goes into maybe guys

1039
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 13: in front of them, if you're not on the pathway

1040
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 13: to be a one of the better starters in the

1041
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 13: league at your position, sometimes just good isn't good enough,

1042
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 13: and we're seeing more young guys get those opportunities. But

1043
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 13: kind of to your point, you know, if the salary

1044
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 13: cap is going to go elsewhere, and you've got to

1045
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 13: pay for these guys top dollar at the these major positions,

1046
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 13: you're going to have to sacrifice experience by going with

1047
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 13: these cost controlled rookies at a lot of these important

1048
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 13: backup positions.

1049
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Speaker 1: One of the things I've noticed as well, and I

1050
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: got to be honest, I don't have any statistics or

1051
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: data to back this up, but what I have noticed is,

1052
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Speaker 1: particularly at the highest college level, players are coming out

1053
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: more ready. They're more polished than they were when they

1054
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: came out decades ago. You're getting better coaching at lower

1055
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: levels of football. You've got seven on seven leagues, you've

1056
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: got private coaches, you've got mechanics coaches, You've got players

1057
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: make now with nil, players can afford to hone their

1058
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: craft in college on their own dime if they so desire.

1059
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: So you're getting a whole different class a player coming out,

1060
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: particularly at the highest levels of the draft. I mean,

1061
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: not for nothing, the Bills are playing the Cardinals opening day,

1062
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: they've got a guy whose dad's a Hall of Fame

1063
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: or who was the first player drafted that wasn't aquarterback

1064
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: in Marvin Harrison Junior. You get guys like that coming out. Yeah,

1065
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: that go and that goes deeper into the draft than

1066
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: ever before. So there really is a different class of

1067
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: draftees coming into the league than there were, say even

1068
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty years ago.

1069
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Speaker 13: I think that the private coaching that you were mentioning

1070
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 13: is something that is at play here because you get

1071
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 13: a lot of these players who are able to get

1072
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 13: all sorts of advice. Like even if in the offseason,

1073
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 13: if you will, you know you've got your position coaches.

1074
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 13: But you know, in college football, a lot of these

1075
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 13: position coaches have sometimes just.

1076
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 12: Become recruiters, right.

1077
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 13: I mean, like if they're really good recruiters, sometimes they'll

1078
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 13: get like a defensive line coach position or a running

1079
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 13: back position, and really they're just there to help recruiting.

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Speaker 13: They're not necessarily the best coach in the world to

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Speaker 13: hone these players. But even if that's the case, now

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Speaker 13: these guys are countering that by in the off season

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Speaker 13: they're going to specialist, They're going to running back specialists

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Speaker 13: pass rush specialists. So I think in that guard, yes,

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Speaker 13: I think there are more resources for these guys to

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Speaker 13: become more polished.

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Speaker 12: I think that's a good point.

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Speaker 13: I also think that the gap between the pro and

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Speaker 13: college game and the styles that both of them are

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Speaker 13: is I would say less than it was ten years ago, right.

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Speaker 13: I think that there was a point where, you know,

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Speaker 13: nineteen hundreds, like early like nineteen nineties, I should say

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Speaker 13: nineteen hundreds nineteen nineties, and then in the early two thousands,

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Speaker 13: the brand of football between college and the NFL was

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Speaker 13: sort of similar. It was very much a ground and pound.

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Speaker 13: There was a lot of rushing attack emphasis those kinds

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Speaker 13: of things. But then as we got into the late

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Speaker 13: two thousands and into the twenty tens, well, all of

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Speaker 13: a sudden, you started to see the college game really

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Speaker 13: spread things out. Offensive lines got lighter, wide receivers got lighter,

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 13: trenches got lighter, and there was such an emphasis on speed.

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Speaker 13: And I think that ten ish, ten to fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 13: the gap between the college game and the pro game

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Speaker 13: was vast, maybe as big as it has ever been.

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Speaker 13: And now I think we're at a point where, you know,

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Speaker 13: the great Bill Parcells said this. He's like, look, you know,

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Speaker 13: we can sit here at the NFL and pound our

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Speaker 13: chest and say like this is how you play NFL

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Speaker 13: football all the time. But the quote that I remember

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Speaker 13: from Parcels is he said, we can only take the

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Speaker 13: players that the college game gives us.

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Speaker 12: So if the college.

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Speaker 13: Game is going one direction, the coaches and the teams

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Speaker 13: that are going to be able to take advantage of

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Speaker 13: that the most are the ones that are going to

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Speaker 13: be adaptable in the NFL. Now, I'm not saying that

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Speaker 13: the NFL and the college level are the same right now,

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Speaker 13: but I think enough time has passed where, especially over

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Speaker 13: the last five years, coaches specifically in the NFL, are

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Speaker 13: more willing to adjust what they do and how they

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Speaker 13: attack the game to the players that are playing at

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Speaker 13: the college level, almost like where they're at. It feels

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Speaker 13: a little harsh to say like a watered down version

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Speaker 13: of the game, because I don't think that's true, and

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Speaker 13: in a lot of ways I think it's evolution. But

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Speaker 13: I do think that there is, just to piggyback off

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01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 13: of your point, multiple elements of play here that go

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Speaker 13: into rookies today being able to contribute more than they

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Speaker 13: would have been able to say, like five or ten

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Speaker 13: years ago, because I think the gap between the brands

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Speaker 13: of college and the NFL was so vast, and I

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Speaker 13: don't think it's as vast today.

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Speaker 2: Trevor, thanks for the time. As always, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We got General manager Brandon Being coming up here to

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Speaker 2: address the media after the cuts, so we got to

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Speaker 2: cut away to that, so we appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you soon.

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Speaker 12: Appreciate it guys, anytime.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for That's Trevor Sikima from PFF. He is their

1140
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: lead draft analyst and co host of the NFL Stock

1141
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: Exchange podcast. We will be getting to Brandon Bean, who's

1142
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: schedule to address the media in about ten twelve minutes time.

1143
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: We will carry that live here, so be sure to

1144
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: stay tuned for that as he kind of gives the who, what, when,

1145
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: where and why on the decisions that were made on

1146
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster. We I think we're going

1147
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: to take a break here and then come back with

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Speaker 2: more discussion with you on your biggest surprise on the

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01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: bill's fifty three man roster, and then we'll go to

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean as soon as he sits down at the

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Speaker 2: podium with the media. Take a break here on One

1152
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. We're back in a flash. Stay with us,

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01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: all right back here on one Bill's Live. And the

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Speaker 2: practice squad is listed on the team website Buffalo bills

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Speaker 2: dot com. It's listed there on the roster page if

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Speaker 2: you want to check it out. But I'll run down

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Speaker 2: the list of names here as they're undoubtedly, I mean,

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01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: it's out, it's on the site, and we know that

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean's going to be talking here shortly, so most

1160
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: of these names have already been reported. Mike White as

1161
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: you know, Tyrrell Shavers, Kingsley, Jonathan Kareem Jackson, kJ Hamler,

1162
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: Mike Edwards, Branson Dean and then in addition, it looks

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Speaker 2: like Dai Kuan Hardy's on here. Richard Garage.

1164
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: Will clap, Dion Kane.

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: Cory Couch, Cameron Klyin so baby talking about it here

1166
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: in short order. So we are going to have to

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Speaker 2: take another break here in about a minute, because as

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Speaker 2: we understand it, after this commercial break, he will be

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Speaker 2: up and running and we want to carry that for

1170
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: you live, so we will do that for you so

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Speaker 2: you can get all the answers that you need regarding

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's fifty three man rosters, the decisions behind them, and

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01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: then the practice squad as well. So I was kind

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Speaker 2: of happy to see da Quon Hardy on the practice squad. Yeah,

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned after he got clipped with us.

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Speaker 1: And you got to think too, that the clubs kind

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Speaker 1: of get an idea of which guys will sneak through.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they get it most of the time, almost all

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Speaker 1: the time they get it right. And as we saw,

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Speaker 1: we always you always fear your roster getting poached, and

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that often. Most teams had one or

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Speaker 1: two guys they'll pick up from somebody. The most this

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01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: year was six by Carolina right out of the gate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of happy to see to Corey couch

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01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: on there. I thought he earned a practice squad spot

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Speaker 2: with the preseason that he had, so good to see

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Speaker 2: him among some of the others guys that have developed

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Speaker 2: in the system here, like a Richard Garage for example,

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Speaker 2: who is now cross training at tackle.

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Speaker 1: And Gardon Kingsley Jonathan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so some interesting decisions there will We'll see

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Speaker 2: if and when an official announcement comes down, but there

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Speaker 2: it is. But we will step aside and take a

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Speaker 2: break here and when we return, we hope to have

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Speaker 2: general manager Brandon Bean sitting at the podium and addressing

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Speaker 2: the media about the roster decisions to get to fifty

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Speaker 2: three when we return here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Stay with us.

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Speaker 2: All right, back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you as promised, Brandon Bean addressing the media.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to the Bills media room right now.

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Speaker 6: All right, I think we just sent out the guys

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Speaker 6: that we've signed so far on practice squad. Obviously you

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01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 6: got to wait overnight and see who gets claimed and

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 6: some years we've we've had a few, but we were

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Speaker 6: selfishly happy to get the guys back that we were

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Speaker 6: able to.

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Speaker 1: Can you take us a little bit into the evaluation

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Speaker 1: on dayque Hardy seemed like he had a pretty good summer.

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Speaker 4: Was a little bit of a surprise, but went in that.

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Speaker 6: Decision and obviously guys got back on the Yeah dayk

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Speaker 6: one is a is a young player, rookie and just

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01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 6: felt like his arrow was was up, did some good things.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot that goes into the punt

1215
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 6: return and that was probably The main reason that we

1216
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Speaker 6: selected him late in the draft was he he had

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01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 6: shown some some some really good things at Penn State

1218
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Speaker 6: as a punt returner, but you know, still probably cleaning up,

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Speaker 6: some decision making, just all the things that go into that.

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Speaker 6: It's more than than just with the ball in his hands.

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 6: So not bad, and I thought it was arrow up,

1222
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 6: but we kind of run.

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Speaker 4: Run out of time.

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Speaker 6: We got a real game next and we just weren't

1225
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Speaker 6: quite there. But doesn't mean that we wouldn't get him

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Speaker 6: up this year. We're gonna keep working him there and

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Speaker 6: on the defensive side. And so it's it's hard because

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Speaker 6: you'd love to just let it go, but you know,

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Speaker 6: still had a little bit of a gap to close

1230
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Speaker 6: from that standpoint, But we believe in him and we're

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Speaker 6: excited that we're able to get him back.

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Speaker 4: Putting into your injury guys on I R.

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Speaker 6: No, No, Codrington, who you traded for.

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Speaker 14: Is this somebody that you guys were more familiar with

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Speaker 14: coming out of college. Can you kind of get you

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 14: through the process of leading you up to planning on him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we had.

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Speaker 6: We went through a lot of returners in the spring,

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 6: guys that got drafted guys that did not, And you're

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Speaker 6: looking at all different numbers of returns. Some guys did

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Speaker 6: it a little bit, some guys did it a lot.

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Speaker 6: Some guys played at big schools in this case, some

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01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 6: guys played at small schools. You're looking at a lot

1244
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Speaker 6: of different things. You're trying to make the best decision

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01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 6: you can. Limited exposure for me, like seeing him personally

1246
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 6: or some of our guys, but you know, when you

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 6: watch the film and then you saw it translate to

1248
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 6: what he did in the preseason again for him, still

1249
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 6: a small NFL sample, but saw him, felt he made

1250
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 6: good decisions, fielded it cleanly, you.

1251
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: Know, muffs or not.

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01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 6: Sometimes you see guys fielding them and you're like, he

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 6: caught it, but it wasn't clean. We play in one

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Speaker 6: of the hardest environments at home, with the wind and

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Speaker 6: all that, and that'll be an adjustment for him as well.

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Speaker 6: We saw that even we had that windy game against

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Speaker 6: the Bears in preseason. You know, the ball moving on

1258
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 6: the guys a little bit. So I don't know if

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Speaker 6: he's seen that part yet. We're going to try to

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Speaker 6: get him prepared as much as we can between now

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Speaker 6: in Arizona, but.

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Speaker 4: All that goes into it.

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Speaker 6: He did a really nice job at Central and then

1264
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 6: backed it up. You know again this preseason over there

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Speaker 6: with the Jets.

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Speaker 12: Mike White, and what role do you see him playing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we've obviously gone against Mike. I think

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Speaker 6: everybody in here is very familiar with his career, you know,

1269
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 6: all the time in the AFC East. And you know,

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Speaker 6: the thing I always liked about Mike and respected about

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01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 6: him was whether he started the game or whether he

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 6: came in the game, like he came in guns of

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 6: blaze and no fear, not just check down, Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Like he really did some good things.

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Speaker 6: And I know at times there were people talking out

1276
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 6: there like, hey, this may be our future starter here

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01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 6: with the Jets as they kind of went through some

1278
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 6: of the quarterbacks, and you know, we were always like, man,

1279
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Speaker 6: we've got to be ready the games we played against Mike,

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Speaker 6: and I thought it was a good signing by Miami

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01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 6: last year to bring him in and be the backup

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01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 6: for Tua. And so you know, they have another guy

1283
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 6: in Skyler Thompson, who he faced you know a couple

1284
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 6: of years ago in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: But Mike a lot of a lot of respect.

1286
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 6: You can tell he's a very smart guy process as well,

1287
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 6: loves the game tough. I mean some of the for

1288
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 6: him to come back in that game, you know, some

1289
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 6: of the hits he took in that home game here. Really,

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01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 6: you know, I already respected him a lot, but it

1291
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 6: really raised my level of respect.

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Speaker 4: This guy is out there laying on the line.

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 6: We talk about all the time, we say it, but

1294
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 6: this kuy Of, you know, had some ribs cracked or

1295
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 6: bro I don't know the exact diagnosis, but I'm excited

1296
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 6: that we were able to get Mike. You never know

1297
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 6: how it's going to turn out where guys are going

1298
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 6: to land. And you know, we we recruited him hard

1299
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 6: to get him on this peace squad. And you know

1300
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 6: Mitch is still working his way back. That may be

1301
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 6: the next question, truly unknown yet whether Mitch will be

1302
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 6: ready to play week one.

1303
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: So it's great we get Mike in here, now, get.

1304
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 6: Him up to speed, and you know, we feel really

1305
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 6: good that we'll have a you know, a good option,

1306
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 6: you know, or two to back up Josh come week one.

1307
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 15: As a report that you signed a receiver named Jay,

1308
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 15: when Virgil.

1309
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 16: Is that.

1310
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: We have not signed him.

1311
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 6: You know he cleared Waivers, been in contact with him

1312
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 6: and could potentially add him, but you know, he's not

1313
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 6: here at this point, and so you know, he's one

1314
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 6: of the guys that we're talking to and I haven't

1315
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 6: signed him yet. Potentially though coming in here to visit

1316
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 6: and potentially signs.

1317
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 15: You said you don't know yet, But is it out

1318
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 15: there the possibility that you may have to put him

1319
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 15: on IR and go get a practice squad quarterback if

1320
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 15: you elevate, if you you'd have to elevate like White

1321
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 15: in that case, is that still part of the calculus here?

1322
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 6: I think you know, Mitch is getting better, he's improving.

1323
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 6: We are not there at that point to put him

1324
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 6: on IR. We want to give him every chance. Now

1325
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 6: he hasn't gone through a practice yet, so nothing's off

1326
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 6: the table.

1327
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 4: But you know, we're.

1328
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 6: Cautiously optimistic that we won't need to do that. But

1329
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 6: until he's back out there and show that he can

1330
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 6: do it and do the job, protect himself and play

1331
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 6: the position like he's got to play it, that's an unknown.

1332
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: And Joe andres and.

1333
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 14: Do to earn a spot on the fifty three.

1334
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 6: Then I started, Joe, man, where do you start Buffalo Joe.

1335
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 6: What a story, cool, really cool story for Joe. You know,

1336
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 6: I don't know where you start. The guy just shows up,

1337
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 6: doesn't say a word, and you know, just you know,

1338
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 6: never you know, there's a saying sometimes, you know, don't

1339
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 6: count your reps, you know, make the reps.

1340
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: Make every rep you get count. I would say Joe

1341
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 4: was that. Obviously, he came in here, came to our

1342
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 4: local day. We've invited him back. You know, did well

1343
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 4: enough there, We invited him back for our rookie.

1344
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 6: Camp, and fortunately at that time we still needed to

1345
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 6: sign another linebacker, and so he stood out the most

1346
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 6: there and he just every step of the way, checked

1347
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 6: the box, checked the box, kept.

1348
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 4: Himself in play, kept himself in play.

1349
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 6: Never worried about whether he got five reps in practice

1350
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 6: or fifteen, depending on.

1351
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 4: When we were healthier.

1352
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 6: Too, when we face some injuries there, and you know,

1353
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 6: we got thin there with Nick Balen obviously losing Matt

1354
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 6: and some people are ready for their opportunity and others

1355
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 6: are not. And I think Joe did everything you could

1356
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 6: have asked for. He's still a rookie, okay, so I

1357
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 6: don't want to put him in the Hall of fame yet,

1358
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 6: But I think we need to.

1359
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 4: Give him credit and kudos.

1360
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 6: How can you not cheer for him, Like there's a

1361
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 6: lot of guys we cheer for that don't make it.

1362
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 6: So we still have to make the best decision for

1363
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 6: the Bills. And you know, to this point, he's done

1364
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 6: what's asking. He earned the opportunity, you know, to make

1365
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 6: our initial fifty three.

1366
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 15: I mean if you took up an extep of the way.

1367
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 16: But how much that Pittsburgh game influence or maybe captured

1368
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 16: your attention that and maybe you believe that this was

1369
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 16: possible uncut down?

1370
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know one of the things in preseason,

1371
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 6: John is you know, who are they going against? Is

1372
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 6: it threes verse three? Threes, verse twos, twos verse ones?

1373
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 6: And so you know, Matt goes down. We decided to

1374
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 6: hold TV out just to be cautious, and you know,

1375
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 6: made the decision to put Joe out there and run

1376
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 6: him with the starters. Let's just see, and nothing else

1377
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 6: is going to tell us more than putting them with

1378
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 6: the ones.

1379
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 4: And first of all, it didn't phase him.

1380
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 6: I'm sure he was nervous and you know, had adrenaline pumping,

1381
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 6: but it didn't phase him. And he went out there

1382
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 6: ran the defense as you know, to what you would

1383
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 6: say was was really well for a rookie, and made

1384
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 6: plays and made plays in space. You know, that was

1385
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 6: one of the one of the questions on Joe is

1386
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 6: how would he do in space? And you saw play

1387
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 6: against fields obviously the screen against Jalen Warren, really good

1388
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 6: block protect and just getting off blocks and using his hands.

1389
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 4: We talk about all the time guys using their hands.

1390
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 6: And I thought he really passed the test that day,

1391
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 6: and that probably gave us a lot of confidence that

1392
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 6: this guy is trending up and deserves this opportunity of

1393
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 6: his designation to return.

1394
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 14: You give us an update on where he is right

1395
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 14: now and maybe your confidence level that you.

1396
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: Will at some point for it as you go.

1397
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's so early, Josh.

1398
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 6: You know, he obviously, you know, tore the bicep and

1399
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 6: had had that repaired, and it's it's early stages and so.

1400
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 4: Those can range from various times.

1401
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: We have.

1402
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 6: A little bit, but you're not really doing a lot

1403
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 6: like our people aren't putting their hands doing a lot.

1404
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 4: You're letting the wound heal and all that.

1405
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 6: So I think it's right now we're just gonna let

1406
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 6: Matt do his thing. We're gonna focus on the guys

1407
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 6: we got here, and if the medical team tells us

1408
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 6: as we get in the season, hey this is trending

1409
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 6: well and we think there's a chance, then we'll start

1410
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 6: planning accordingly. So ultimately, what we did was didn't close

1411
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 6: the door on the season.

1412
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 4: But you know, we're not going to sit here.

1413
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 6: And say we're expecting him by this pointer. I think

1414
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 6: it's just way too early.

1415
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 16: Mindri hown't did you.

1416
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 10: Bring somebody else in to ask the I remember where

1417
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 10: what was your confidence of going to think about?

1418
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: Uh?

1419
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 6: First off, I cried when I got that injury. But

1420
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 6: second of all, the confidence level in the group. Yeah,

1421
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 6: I mean it's you build your team and you always

1422
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 6: tell guys, next man up, and you're training every single player,

1423
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 6: and so right now, you know, as guys move up

1424
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 6: the spot on the depth, you're training the next guy

1425
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 6: for everything. Maybe a guy was not getting as many

1426
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 6: special teams reps now is getting more guys playing more

1427
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 6: in nickel situations, base situations, whatever it is. So, no,

1428
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 6: we have confidence in our group. We need to get healthy.

1429
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 6: That's that's been the big thing. You know, obviously Nick

1430
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 6: Morrow missed a lot of camp with his stuff.

1431
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 4: Bailing, you know, with his and so.

1432
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 6: And then we've got two rookies in Joe and Eddie,

1433
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 6: you know, and and then obviously TV leading the group.

1434
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 4: So we got work to do. But we're confident these guys.

1435
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 6: Confident the coaches, these guys are getting them as prepared

1436
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 6: as they can. It's obviously easier to prepare them when

1437
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 6: they get back on the field. So we're getting them

1438
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 6: back and I got no doubt these guys will be

1439
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,480
Speaker 6: ready Week one.

1440
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 3: Kingsley last year at the cutdown at fifty three. This

1441
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 3: year it was Casey two.

1442
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: Hell, you got Kingsley back.

1443
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 14: But went into that decision that Casey kind of if

1444
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 14: it was the last spot or how.

1445
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 3: Kind of fits into the plane.

1446
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Casey's done. It had good career so far,

1447
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 6: you know, even before he got here. And another, you know,

1448
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 6: another tough decision there as far as.

1449
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 4: How many you keep at each spot, And.

1450
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 6: You know, there's I would say there's there's more decisions

1451
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 6: like that than not at different positions that you're deciding

1452
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 6: and and you're you're doing special teams, you're doing guys

1453
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 6: that can go inside and go out. You're just trying

1454
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 6: to make sure you got enough answers when your starters

1455
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 6: go down, Guys that can play different spots, just all

1456
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 6: the nuances of the game. Not an easy call, though, Matt,

1457
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 6: to your to the point of your question, I would

1458
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 6: say that.

1459
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 17: The draft, I believe it was around draft time where

1460
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 17: you said judges some where we are at the start

1461
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 17: of the season in September.

1462
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 4: It's not there yet.

1463
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 17: The full roster isn't yet putgram how I don't want

1464
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 17: to use the word comfortable, but where are you as

1465
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 17: far as your vision of whethers Wester is and where

1466
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 17: you thought it.

1467
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: Might be back in May.

1468
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think we're you know, you're getting

1469
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 6: through camp and we've already had a little bit of

1470
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 6: adversity with some of the injury stuff. You know, it's

1471
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 6: it's hard, you know, we feel confident in the group

1472
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 6: we have John.

1473
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 4: You know, we would have probably loved to.

1474
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 6: Maybe play a little bit more of the offense, but

1475
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 6: circumstances dictated things to be a little different as far

1476
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 6: as getting Josh in that first group out there a

1477
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 6: little bit more. But you react the best you can

1478
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 6: to each situation. Those guys have had a lot of work,

1479
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 6: and I think Sean and the coach have done a

1480
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 6: good job of getting them a lot of competitive one

1481
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 6: on one because once you get in season, you kind

1482
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 6: of do the ones versus the two's and scout team stuff.

1483
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 6: So we've tried to make it other competitive periods in

1484
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 6: practice to give them the best game looks you can.

1485
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 6: You know, you still got to be smart and said

1486
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 6: not lose the race before you get to the race.

1487
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 6: So are we going to be a finished product next week? No,

1488
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 6: but hopefully we can hit the ground fast and have

1489
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 6: a good start and then just continue to get better

1490
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 6: every time.

1491
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 4: But very confident in.

1492
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 6: Our coaches and the players that we have, you know,

1493
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 6: on this fifty three Ready to Move Forward.

1494
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 4: Safety was safety.

1495
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 6: In particular, and there were questions at the position coming

1496
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 6: into the off season.

1497
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 14: Just hear the turnover and then there were a lot

1498
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 14: of injuries on top of that.

1499
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: So what's kind of your comfort level just with safety

1500
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: right now?

1501
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 12: How do you feel about that group?

1502
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we have a good number of guys,

1503
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 6: Like I like the depth, similar to the linebackers.

1504
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 4: We had some setbacks with guys missing most of camp.

1505
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 6: You know, notably Mike Edwards and Cole Bishop.

1506
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 4: So trying to get those guys.

1507
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 6: Those guys have been doing everything they can at walk

1508
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,440
Speaker 6: through meetings and everything to catch up on mental reps.

1509
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 6: It's not the same, but you know, DeMar's gotten extra playtime,

1510
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 6: you know, in year two off of his situation Taylor

1511
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,919
Speaker 6: Rapp having him in year two, he seems very comfortable

1512
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 6: and confident.

1513
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 4: And then cam Lewis has been kind.

1514
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 6: Of our Swiss Army knife back there playing all sorts

1515
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 6: of spots for us, including special teams.

1516
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 4: So I love the group.

1517
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 6: You know, again, like I was saying on offense, I

1518
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 6: would love for some of those guys to get in

1519
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 6: some game experience that they haven't. We'll have to do

1520
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 6: that on the fly at this point, but I love

1521
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 6: the group. Hopefully we can not have any injury setbacks

1522
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 6: going forward.

1523
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 4: Bringing off topic tabl roster.

1524
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 16: With Dollar K King going in a second year, in

1525
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 16: your experience at Highway tight Ends, what sort of clicks

1526
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 16: in for those guys here one year two today?

1527
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: Increasing production?

1528
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think just the feel of the game,

1529
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 6: especially more of a you know, it probably varies for

1530
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 6: different tight ends, Ryan, but I would say, you know,

1531
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 6: He's definitely more of an f and receiving tight end

1532
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 6: for us.

1533
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 4: So I'm going to relate in.

1534
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 6: The receiver world, just feeling how guys that are going

1535
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 6: to plaim some of the press stuff that he probably

1536
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 6: didn't face as much in college. You know, I would

1537
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 6: say he saw some of that last year. He may

1538
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 6: see some more of that, just working on those releases,

1539
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 6: what people are trying to do to him, how to

1540
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 6: get off those. And then just the more comfort in

1541
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 6: the system, it helps you play faster. You're thinking less,

1542
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 6: the play comes, you know, the play call, all that

1543
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 6: stuff just allows you to play a little faster. And

1544
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 6: so I think you even saw that with Dalton if

1545
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 6: you turned on the film early in the season versus

1546
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 6: what he was doing late. I mean, I thought he

1547
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 6: was really making some good plays down the stretch for us,

1548
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 6: including the playoff games against Pittsburgh and Case. How much

1549
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 6: were you able to truly evaluate the wide receiver group.

1550
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 4: It's new. You admitted they didn't get a lot of

1551
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 4: run with Josh in the preseason.

1552
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: Now going into the regular season, where do you feel this.

1553
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 3: New group is.

1554
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's definitely a different group. Losing stuff

1555
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 6: and gave from last year, but where they're at, great chemistry,

1556
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 6: knowledge of the offense. They're all smart, they're interchangeable. I

1557
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 6: love how they're working together and all that. We've seen

1558
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 6: more of that in practice than games. As I was

1559
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 6: alluding to earlier, we have to go prove it. I

1560
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 6: mean I consider all day and say I'm confident, which

1561
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 6: I am, but we gotta go. We gotta go prove it.

1562
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 4: Talk his talk is cheap at this point of that.

1563
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 7: What's your fig of your impression of key On specifically

1564
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 7: going through camp and just seeing him kind of get.

1565
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 15: Used to the NFL kind of schedule.

1566
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 3: All.

1567
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, just like I was talking about Dalton a minute ago,

1568
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 6: he's in year one of that of of probably some

1569
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 6: more press how different. You know, he's going to see

1570
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 6: a lot more variety of coverages and and defense and

1571
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 6: higher caliber corners. All those things are going to be

1572
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 6: new to him, and so he's going to learn on

1573
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 6: the way. But the young man is super competitive.

1574
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 4: He loves ball.

1575
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 6: He's not afraid. He's working his tail off. His teammates

1576
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 6: believe in him. He has fun out there. He's serious.

1577
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 6: I know he's funny behind the mic and stuff like that.

1578
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 6: But when he's on the field. You guys have been

1579
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 6: out there enough, like he's working his craft and kind

1580
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 6: of what I'd said in the.

1581
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 4: Spring, like there's still gonna be some bumps along the road.

1582
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,879
Speaker 4: He's a rookie playing receiver.

1583
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 6: It's a big jump, and so he'll he'll have some

1584
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 6: he'll have some good games, he'll have some some plays

1585
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 6: he wants back, like all players, but especially rookies. But

1586
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 6: I'm I'm very confident that when his numbers called, you know,

1587
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 6: he'll step.

1588
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 4: Up and make the plays for.

1589
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 17: Us, your reserve offensive lineman, a little younger, but not

1590
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 17: a whole lot of experience.

1591
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 4: What went into that decision, Well, we had Alex here

1592
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 4: last year.

1593
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 6: I think Alex answered the bell every time we've you know,

1594
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 6: he's he's one of those guys.

1595
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 4: He played tackle in college.

1596
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 6: We've trained him in here to be center and guard,

1597
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 6: and I think in an emergency could go out there

1598
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 6: if you know, if disaster struck, like the Miami game

1599
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 6: a couple of years.

1600
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 4: Ago in the heat when we were running out of lineman.

1601
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 6: He's just one of those little bit Swiss army knife guys,

1602
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 6: but he's answered the bell. He brings an edge vandam

1603
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 6: Ark last year when he came in and played, did

1604
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 6: a good job. I think Grabel, you know how you know,

1605
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 6: did a really nice job in again preseason. We'll have

1606
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 6: to see it, you know if and when his numbers called,

1607
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 6: you know, in the regular season, and then said Van Prant,

1608
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 6: I thought, he you know, he young guy. You know,

1609
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 6: rookie played a lot of varsity snaps in the SEC,

1610
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 6: which shows it's not too big for him.

1611
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 4: He's still learning all the nuances.

1612
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 6: To to our protections are you know, you got to

1613
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 6: call everything. You're the quarterback of that of that old

1614
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 6: line at center. But confident in those guys and and

1615
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 6: fortunate to get some of the guys back on practice

1616
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 6: squad that we did you know Will Clap as well,

1617
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 6: who was a last minute release after we traded for

1618
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 6: the young man from the Jets.

1619
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,440
Speaker 3: A bunch of receivers.

1620
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 14: One wasn't your very long Deng had a nice team

1621
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 14: other on Saturday obviously made the impressure on you guys

1622
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 14: bringing back and then Justin who's been here for two

1623
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 14: years on draft pick of yours and it appears as

1624
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 14: what we got from him, can you count involved?

1625
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1626
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 6: I mean I'll start with Justin Like Justin a is

1627
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 6: a great young man. Obviously spent most of year on

1628
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 6: IR last year, worked hard. We just couldn't get him

1629
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 6: to where we needed to when when we selected him,

1630
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 6: were you know, hopeful that he would be. He had

1631
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 6: showed a lot of things in college that would not

1632
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 6: only translate on fourth down, but just a bigger body, possession,

1633
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 6: red zone type receiver, and just couldn't quite get there

1634
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 6: in time with with the competition, you know, best man

1635
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 6: wins and and then yeah, Dion short short runway. Still

1636
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 6: getting to know him, so still you know, keeping him around,

1637
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 6: just to just to be around him a little more

1638
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 6: and and and see where that goes. Did a good

1639
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 6: job in the game the other day. Uh, who do

1640
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 6: we play Carolina?

1641
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, brings running heard of him a couple of times. Yeah,

1642
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 4: evaluation of Gable steveson Gable.

1643
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 6: Man got better, like a lot better. You're talking about

1644
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 6: a guy that had never put a helmet on, you

1645
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 6: know before late May or early June whenever, that was

1646
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,520
Speaker 6: never played organized football, never really did team sports.

1647
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 4: Talking to him, but the guy just worked his tail off.

1648
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 6: Tim uh smart, I would say, learning the nuances of

1649
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 6: the game.

1650
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 4: You know, we talk about instincts and all that.

1651
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 6: For a lot of times, when you find out guys

1652
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 6: that took up the game later hadn't didn't grow up

1653
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 6: around it, maybe their instincts are a little further behind.

1654
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 6: I thought his were pretty good to this point, better

1655
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:49,480
Speaker 6: than I would have expected.

1656
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 4: He's an undersized guy, and.

1657
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 6: Physics says you wouldn't put him in there, but the

1658
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 6: wrestler background, the mentality and it wasn't.

1659
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 4: Too big for him, did some really good things. You know.

1660
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 6: I'm hopeful that he will stick with this. You know,

1661
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 6: we wouldn't close the door on bringing him back here

1662
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 6: at some point.

1663
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 4: He made that kind of impression, all right.

1664
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: That's General manager Brandon being addressing the media on the

1665
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: decisions to get down to the fifty three man roster.

1666
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: Among the tidbits there that he shared, Will Klapp was

1667
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 2: going to make this roster until they made the trade

1668
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: for Brandon Codrington and it pushed him off. Fortunately the

1669
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: Bills were able to land him on the practice squad.

1670
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I'll say this too. Codrington in the film we saw

1671
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: in this brief preseason with the Jets was impressive.

1672
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,879
Speaker 2: He flashed and day kwon Hardy lands on the practice

1673
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: squad as well, so he is a backup option along

1674
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: with kJ Hamler, who also is on the practice squad.

1675
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: Dion Kine as well, flashed in that Carolina game.

1676
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Here he is made the roster. Justin Shorter did not

1677
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 2: make the practice squad. Dion kin does after being here

1678
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 2: for just one game. It's amazing how it works. That's

1679
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: it for us today. We'll see you tomorrow at one