1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. It is a Tuesday, and 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: there is a lot to talk about for live. We're 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: in LA. It's the Herd one hour from now because 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing the rest of this week right then, Little Baykaden, 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: We're coming back for six months. I'm gonna do a 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Herd hierarchy one hour from now, and this is kind 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: of how I see the season. This is gonna be 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: the last big one, a Herd hierarchy before the season, 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: telling you who I think to the ten best teams. 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: A lot of familiar faces at the top off some 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: really good teams who I liked and maybe don't like 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: as much as I thought, are out. John Middlecoff joining 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: us again today. John, you and I did an exercise 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: last night on a podcast, and I'm going to do 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: that again for the television audience. About the Chicago Bears. 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: And I think you and I agree, and we know 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: this in life. Your happiness is directly correlated to your 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: expectations in life, like, what do you expect that. I'll 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: give you an example. I'll start the show with this. 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Last year, Denver won ten games, and people are like, oh, 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: what amazing season. The Bengals won nine, one fewer, and 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: people are like, we got to fire the coach. I mean, 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: we're keeping Burrow and Jamar Chase. We got to get 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: rid of everybody. The expectations for Denver rookie quarterback Sean 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Payton in a rebuild pretty low in that division with 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Harbaugh Andy Reid. They won ten games. You'd have thought 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: they lost a super They got just this close. Since 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: he won nine, Let's get rid of everybody, right. Happiness 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: is tied to expectations. So I saw a headline this morning, 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams looks like a diffront quarterback in Ben Johnson's 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: new offense. It's the preseason. Last year, the Jags, the Titans, 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Bears went undefeated the preseason. Okay, 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: settle down, So let's just let's do a hard count here. 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: Let's take the Bears. Schedule, and I'm gonna be optimistic Colin. 42 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give Chicago a split. In Division. They 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: win one and lose one with the Packers, they split 44 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: with the Lions, they split with the Vikings. They went 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: one and five against those teams last year. And they're 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: already a road dog. They're already a home dog in 47 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Week one against Minnesota. They're a dog at home against Minnesota. 48 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him a split, a three and three. 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm incredibly optimistic. They just don't. They don't do well 50 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: in division. I'm gonna give them a split. I'm also 51 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna give them four more wins, hosting Dallas, hosting New Orleans, 52 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: hosting the Giants, and hosting Cleveland. No upsets, they win 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: all of them. So now I got them at seven 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: and three. But I'm also gonna say they're gonna lose 55 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: at Washington, at Baltimore, at Philly, and at San Francisco. 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: So now we're at seven and seven, and again I 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: gave them a split in Division. They're seven and seven 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: with three games left. I'll continue my optimism. Three games 59 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: left on the schedule. Now at Las Vegas, I'll give 60 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: them a win, but they may go in as an 61 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: underdog at Cincinnati. They lose to Joe Burrow, that's reasonable, 62 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: and I'll have them beating Pittsburgh at home in a 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: close game. I think Pittsburgh's got a really good roster. 64 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: You know what that gives the Bears being incredibly optimistic. 65 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: Nine and eight in a division where Kevin O'Connell and 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and Dan Campbell have already proven their elite 67 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: head coaches. Well, two of them are scheme guys, one 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: of them is a culture guy. They're all really really elite. 69 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: We don't know that about Ben Johnson. So I got 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: nine and eight. By the way, two times in the 71 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: last twelve seasons have they been five hundred in division. 72 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: And I'll give them that. They've been that two times 73 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: of twelve years. By the way, they've only hit nine 74 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: wins once in twelve years, and I'm giving it to them. 75 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: So giving them wins that are not in the last 76 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: decade plus guaranteed, you know, as a home favorite, I'm 77 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: giving them Dallas, New Orleans, New York, and Cleveland. I 78 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: actually think New York's defensive line is going to be 79 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: a problem and the Giants are going to end up 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: being one of those teams that plays a spoiler throughout 81 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the They're just gonna suffocate some offensive lines that are 82 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: banged up for not that very good. So again expectations. 83 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: If you go nine and eight, that means you probably 84 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: split in a incredibly highly functional division. You just don't 85 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: do that. So, yes, they beat the Bills. Yes, Caleb 86 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: Williams looked good, and yes, Matt Hasselbeck yesterday on the 87 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: show was cautiously optimistic. He looked great. 88 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's everything you're looking for. If 89 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: you're a Bears fan, you're fired up about the head coach, 90 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: the play caller. This is a division that has quarterback whisperers, 91 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: and Chicago hasn't had theirs. Now they have it. It 92 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: looks like a good, great start. I would just say 93 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: it's preseason football, so I'm not going to criticize him 94 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: because it's the preseason. This is a this is a 95 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: great start. It was a great outing. There's been some 96 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: up and down reporting about him. In this game against 97 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: the Bills, he looked fantastic. 98 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: From positive Uncle Colin nine to eight, I think that's realistic, 99 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: maybe a bit positive. Tough division, good coaches, everywhere, some 100 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: automatic l's on the road. I think you meet Dallas 101 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: Saints Giants Cleveland at home nine and eight. Let's be realistic, 102 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna be miserable all year. I'll say so. 103 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 1: I saw a headline, and a lot of times headlines 104 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: don't match the story. But I'm always interested when headline 105 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: writers like to get your attention. So Sports illustrated the 106 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: headline why college football is emulating the NFL. And I 107 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: know ninety percent of you college football die hards, and 108 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: I am one don't like that headline. You don't like 109 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: that headline. I don't want to give you advice in life. 110 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: I have a lot of opinions. If I ever go 111 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: speak to young people, I'm like, I'm not going to 112 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: give you any advice because my life isn't your life. 113 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: My journey's not your journey. But I'll give you an 114 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: opinion offered Outback Steakhouse or Morton Steakhouse. Choose the latter. 115 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: The first one's fine, the second one's excellent. Folks. College 116 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: football has has taken away the bumpers from the bowling lanes. 117 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State threw a gutter against Michigan and yet made 118 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: the playoff. That is a good thing. Go look, I'm 119 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: going to give you three or four schedules. Go look 120 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma schedule. Because college football always had a big 121 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: game problem. If you're driving, I'll read it to you. 122 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: If you're driving around listening, Oklahoma this year plays Michigan, Auburn, Texas, Ole, Miss, Tennessee, Bama, 123 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: and LSU. That is seven must watch games. That's before 124 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: the playoff. If they make it to be four more 125 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: good ones if they kept winning. Texas Texas schedule at 126 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Ohio State at Florida, Oklahoma, Georgia, Texas, A and m 127 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: that is five must watch games. Yeah I know, Oh 128 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: they're not playing Kansas State. I don't know if I'll 129 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: sleep at night. That's five must watch games before the playoff. Oregon, 130 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: they get to play Oregon State, their rival. I covered 131 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: it for years, great rivalry. But I get at Penn 132 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: State at Iowa, then two traditional rivals at USC Washington. 133 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Five must watch Oregon games before the playoff. Root for content. 134 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: If offered multiple steakhouses, take the best one. College football 135 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: has always had a big game problem. If you go 136 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: look at Nick Saban's dynasty, and I love Nick, but 137 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: after about year three, he refused to play a road 138 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: out of conference game. He would make sure he and 139 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: the athletic director always had a bye before they had 140 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: to go, like to LSU or Auburn. There was a 141 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: lot of Citadel and Mercer. At one point, Nick Saban complained, 142 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: Alabama students aren't going to the games. Our games aren't 143 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: sold out because students aren't dopes and they have social 144 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: lives and they'll go to the big games. They're not 145 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: going to the ugly ones. Kids have lives. There's a 146 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: lot to do in college campus mingle, socialize, drink, party. 147 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to watch BAM and mercer. So college football. 148 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: Look at these schedules now they're in. In fact, I've 149 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: gone on the air saying I think you want to 150 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: take Notre Dame off USC schedule. There's too many land mines. 151 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: They're so if it's all about winning the Natty, but 152 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: it's not as punitive. Ohio State can lose at Oregon, 153 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: they can lose at Michigan. Root for drama, not that 154 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: parochial Purdue versus Iowa playing for the Giant spatoon that 155 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: is at best a local rivalry. Can you can try 156 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: to convince yourself it's a regional rivalry. The quality of games, 157 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: the quality of con in college football is insane. Just 158 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: go look at Oklahoma schedule, Texas, Oregon, Washington, LSU. I know, 159 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: I know Auburn Alabama won't meet as much. When's the 160 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: last time Bama and Auburn played and it didn't mean anything? 161 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Out of the state of Alabama the Cam Newton years. 162 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that much. Yes, college football may even 163 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: expand it to twenty playoff teams. Maybe it's because of 164 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: what I do for a living. I root for interesting, 165 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I root for better content if I go on Netflix, 166 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: if I turn on Fox or NBC, I just want 167 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the best content. I get over the local rivalry. I 168 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: grew up in Washington State, right like I was a 169 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: Husky fan. I don't need to see Washington play cal 170 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: or Arizona ever again. I'm gonna be okay. Now I 171 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: get Washington Penn State. Plus I get I can still 172 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: play in Oregon, I can still play in SC But 173 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: I got Washington Michigan. I want to go to the 174 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: I want to go to the Iowa game. I get 175 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: new fun stuff. But when I read that Sports Illustrated headline, Oh, 176 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna emulate the NFL. Thank god, college football's taking 177 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the bumpers out of your bowling alley. Okay, you're gonna 178 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: throw some gutters. Now you're gonna have bad games cause 179 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: you don't have mercer coming up. Oh god, we play 180 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: LSU and you're gonna get blown out and it'll be okay, 181 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: it'll be fine. Go ask Ohio State lost as a 182 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: twenty point favorite. What did they go in as like 183 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: a four seed to the tournament? I mean, god, they 184 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: went in as a higher seed. If you're good, it's 185 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: all that matters, and it didn't used to be that way. 186 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: You could be good. But did your schedule right? Did 187 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: you have enough buys? Did you play any difficult road game? 188 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: All that stuff's done, it's over. 189 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 190 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to look and feel a little bit more 191 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: like the NFL. If you're paying players, it's time all right. 192 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Ohio State, by the way, was an eight seed. Thanks 193 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: for reminding me that. An eight seed. That's why the 194 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: NFL playoffs are fun. You just never quite know who's 195 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna win. You had a feeling it'd be Brady your Mahomes. 196 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Never quite No Chiefs have been blown out twice in 197 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You're never quite sure. You could have 198 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: looked at Saban's Alabama schedule and go, Okay, those two 199 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: games they'll only be a field goal favorite, but ones 200 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: at home they'll win for sure. If they lose that game, 201 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: they'll still get in. That's not the way you want it. 202 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm look at Oklahoma schedule. I don't know 203 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get. They may lose three games and 204 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: still get into the playoffs. I mean, look at that thing. 205 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm not even counting other games like the Missouri Oklahoma game, 206 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: which could be great. Joan and I kind of disagree 207 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: in that traditional stuff. He went to Fresno State into powerhouse, 208 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: so he loves those big regional games. I'm a non traditionalist. 209 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: We didn't go to church, child of divorce, didn't have 210 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: like that perfect white picket thing, So I'm not a traditionalist. 211 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: So I know I have some confirmation bias and some 212 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: life bias. 213 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: I know that I grew up going to Memorial City 214 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: with my dad watching CAL. So I'm not acting like 215 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: Cal is Alabama or Ohio State, and no one is 216 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 4: complaining about watching Ohio State, Texas or Texas, Georgia or 217 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: Ohio State Oregon. But what about Washington State a program 218 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: that has tried, or Oregon State a program that has tried. 219 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: You know who I sc obviously big brand, no doubt. 220 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: What about UCLA? I mean, do they really care about football? 221 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: And they got to benefit from it? 222 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: So I understand the little guy at Oregon State and 223 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 4: Washington State. First of the State's always been a you know, 224 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: a small market program. But those those programs were in 225 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: the big conference and they kind of got screwed while 226 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: they tried. 227 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: But I guess it's business. They just weren't big enough. Yeah, 228 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: it's like Major nig Baseball wants to do realignment. People say, 229 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable with it. Guys, sports is a business. 230 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: No business stands Pat Amazon Meta, you can't stand Pat. 231 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: You've got the By the way, if you look at 232 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: what happened to boxing, why did UFC take it over? 233 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: Because boxing was poorly run? Why are we seeing all 234 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: these changes in college football? Because college football did not 235 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: have a CEO as poorly run. If you're well run, 236 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: there won't be major changes. Baseball was poorly run under 237 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Bud Selig. Rob Manfred steps in, He's got to make 238 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: multiple changes because the tenants goes down, and the game 239 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: goes down, and merchandise goes down. So Rob Manfred's like, okay, 240 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: start at second base, X ray innings, speed the game up, 241 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: get rid of the d double down pitchers don't hit. 242 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: Rob Manfred had to cratch why boxing died. Poorly run. 243 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: College football changes poorly run. If you're not poorly run, 244 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to make drastic changes. 245 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: You do neat underdogs though, right the Yankees can't play 246 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: the Yankees. Conor McGregor can't find mc renderdogs. By the way, 247 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: in the Big Ten, Iowa was an underdog. Now they 248 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: used to be an underdog six times. 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Joe Burrow played 264 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: three series for the Bengals last night and completed nine 265 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: to fourteen passes, had a touchdown. He had to play 266 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: where he was running around and got sacked. But to 267 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl you need like a combination of things. 268 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: You all know this. When New England had their two dynasties, 269 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: it was great owner, great coach, great quarterback, great coordinators. 270 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City, he's got a great GM, a great owner, 271 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: a great coach, and a great quarterback. Philadelphia best GM 272 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: in the sport. Many believe, great owner, top ten quarterback 273 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: Ram same thing top to A. It's a combination of things. Cincinnati. 274 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: You look at Cincinnati and you go, well that we 275 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: really like Zach Taylor. I'm not sure. It's just too 276 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: lobsided an organization. It's Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and everything else. 277 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Their de facto general manager is ninety years old Mike Brown. 278 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: They have the smallest personnel department in the NFL. That's 279 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: why they don't take big risks like the Philadelphia Eagles, 280 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: who are constantly trying to get slightly better. They don't 281 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: do that. They beat down their culture. They beat down 282 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: all their star players to squeeze every last ounce out. 283 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: And I hear this con we made a Super Bowl. 284 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Oh wake up. When you're not paying your rookie quarterback 285 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: the big money. Yet you don't have to be is 286 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: buttoned up one Hippai Jalen Hurts or Ma Holmes or 287 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Matt Stafford. You've got to be more 288 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: buttoned up. It's all about the margins. So I mean, 289 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: the first two drives of the game, Washington had one 290 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards running. Cincinnati's defense is atrocious. I 291 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: think it's the worst in the league without Trey Hendrickson, 292 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: absolutely the pits. And yet they're beating down Trey Hendrickson 293 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: for every penny. He's easily their best defensive player. So 294 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, the way I look AT's let's take the 295 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens in division with Cincinnati. The Baltimore Ravens are 296 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: Disney theme parks, movies, tech AI valuation over three billion dollars. 297 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is six flags, a step above the County Fair. Yeah, 298 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: six Flags has roller coasters too, and Soda is Disney 299 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. You got the quarterback. 300 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: But if you want to win Super Bowls, do you 301 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: pay top money for coordinators? Do you have a big 302 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: scouting department? Do you have one of the top gms 303 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: in the league. It's not, it's not. I mean, when 304 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: did New England's dynasty die when Belichick started taking over 305 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: the draft, When they had Scott Pioli and Bill didn't 306 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: have as much power and they had better rosters, like 307 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: even dynasties can die. When they tried to go cheap 308 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: and one guy, the coach, gets too much money and 309 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: has too much power. So I watch him like Joe 310 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: Burrow running around last night. Everybody's freaking out about that. 311 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow, he needs live game action in the 312 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: preseason because he has to carry this franchise. Lamar Jackson, 313 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: they already had a great run game. Hey, we'll give 314 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: you Dereck Henry. The Rams already have good running backs. 315 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: We'll draft another. They're constantly upgrading. San Francisco. Denver was 316 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: good last year. Playoffs. They get Hafunga, Evan Ingram, Greenlaw 317 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: constantly upgrading because they have the richest owners I think 318 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: Denver does now in the NFL. So I didn't mind 319 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: Burrow running around. Here's Zach Taylor on it. 320 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 7: It's one of those things for him. That's what preseason 321 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 7: football's for. Do I love seeing that? No, I don't. 322 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 7: But at the same time, out there learning what he 323 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 7: can and can't do. And we've seen him get out 324 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 7: of that stuff before and that's that's why he's playing 325 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 7: the preseason, for a chance to to feel what it's 326 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 7: like to feel in the game. 327 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, Joe Burrow doesn't have to prove anything. 328 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: It's it's why preseason I think there's some valuable snaps. 329 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: But with Cincinnati, I once you pay Joe Burrow, once 330 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: you pay Matt Stafford, once you pay these quarterbacks, you 331 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: got to get really good on the margins. You have 332 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: to have a really good general manager. You got to 333 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: have somebody like a Brett Veach. Uh, you got to 334 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: have somebody like Howie Roseman. And there's a lot of 335 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: good gms, Lesnie, there's a lot of good ones all 336 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: over this league. But but once you pay the quarterback, 337 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: unless you get like a Baker Mayfield deal where you 338 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: get kind of a deal for a really good player 339 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: that's rare in the NFL where you can get a 340 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Darnold or a Baker and a pretty good price point. 341 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, you got to pay, and so once you 342 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: got to pay, I need a really good scouting department. 343 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing to me. Cincinnati can't figure it out. 344 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: Like once you pay the quarterback, you gotta you gotta 345 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: hit on the drafts. It's like that's Dallas's problem. Jerry 346 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: controls the draft too much. Once you pay the quarterback. 347 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: The minute you pay the quarterback big money, you should 348 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: hire ten new scouts. You need to nail third, fourth, fifth, 349 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: sixth round picks. You gotta find cheap labor somewhere because 350 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: you're paying your quarterback so much of your money. John 351 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: Middlecoff of the News, Turn on the news. 352 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 353 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: Okay, let's start with some breaking news this morning. The 354 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: Indianapolis Colts have gone with Daniel Jones. Anthony Richardson will 355 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 4: not be the starting quarterback, and Shane Steiken spoke about 356 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 4: this and he said this isn't a short term thing. 357 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: He's going to be the starter for the season, adding 358 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: that he does. 359 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: Not have a short leash. 360 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: To me, the question is Colin, can Daniel Jones resurrect 361 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: his career. 362 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: In that division? Could he win nine games and sneak 363 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: in as a wild card? Certainly possible. I mean I'm 364 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: a little surprised because it basically signals the end of 365 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. So you don't now he doesn't even have 366 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: any trade value because if Shane Steiken gives up on him, well, 367 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: do you have a better offensive coach than Shane Steiken. 368 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: He is younger than guys like Caleb Shadoor Sanders, Dylan 369 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: Gabriel if they Richdon is not like a twenty six 370 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: year old player very. 371 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: Very much, but he has very rough I mean, he 372 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: hasn't shown a two game stretch where you went, wow, 373 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: gets dinged up a lot. I mean a lot of 374 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks that struggle. There have been moments with 375 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Pittsburgh where he goes like four and 376 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: two and you're like, why are they taking him out? 377 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: Like Anthony Richardson, the easy stuff is really hard. 378 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: I've always respected Chris Ballard, but I think we got 379 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 4: to call a spade a Spade. This currently is one 380 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 4: of the worst draft picks we've ever seen. He was 381 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 4: drafted fourth overall and going into year three, he was 382 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 4: just replaced by a guy who last year was cut 383 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: mid season. 384 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: I mean Daniel Jones. 385 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 4: You know, I know, they just gave him fourteen million dollars, 386 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: but the Giants cut him in the middle of the 387 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: season after giving him eighty million dollars. 388 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: Well, the problem with Indianapolis is that the late great 389 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: Jim Irsay was highly impulsive, and you had two things 390 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: happen that screwed the franchise. Andrew Luck retired early right 391 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: before the season. They're trapped, and then they go get 392 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, who goes twenty seven touchdown seven picks, has 393 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: a bad final week in Jacksonville, and Jim Ersay says, 394 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: I want him out of here. Ballard wanted him, Ers 395 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't let him keep him. So Andrew Luck retires. Whoa 396 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: Jim Irsay says, I want Carson Wentz out. Whoha. So 397 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: they go to Philip Rivers, who was pretty good, and 398 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: they try Matt Ryan. The truth is they have been 399 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: bailing water since Andrew Luck retired. They thought they had 400 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: an answer with Carson Wentz and the owners like, get 401 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: him out of here. So I'm going to defend Ballard 402 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: on this. I think this league what you don't want 403 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: to be is desperate at quarterback. And I think once 404 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: Jim Irsay said out of here with Wentz, they thought 405 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: they had him for two to three years. They have 406 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: been with a life preserver since, just bailing water on 407 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: the ship. 408 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: My prediction is Anthewison and will be traded the next 409 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, even if they don't get much, because 410 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: you saw this a couple of years ago Trey Lance, 411 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: he didn't win the backup job and they just got 412 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 4: rid of Yeah, it's very hard to draft a guy 413 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: high who had been the starter, then demote him and 414 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: keep his credibility in that locker room. I mean, Daniel 415 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: Jones has been there what six months, some spring practices 416 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 4: and now a couple weeks of training camp. It's not 417 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: like he's been in the postgrad. 418 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: The Niners are well run, and look what they gave 419 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: up for Trey Lance. It's hard, it is, and when 420 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: you get into these situations where like somebody retires or 421 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: or somebody gets injured, I mean, where would the Niners 422 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: be if they don't get brought Perty with the last pick. 423 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean brock Perty should get paid because he saved 424 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: the franchise. 425 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they would have had to go all 426 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: in on Sam donald U. Speaking of dysfunction the Cowboys, 427 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: they've dealt with a lot of drama this offseason, obviously 428 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: the Mica contract negotiations. 429 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Negotiations have not gone. 430 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: Well, but they also dropped their new Netflix documentary detailing 431 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: the teams from the mid nineties, and one interesting bite 432 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: that came away from Jerry Jones who was asked why 433 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: he hasn't hired a GM, to which he said, I 434 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 4: like the pain is Jerry Jones holding the Cowboys back Colin. 435 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 436 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: And I said this a couple of years ago, and 437 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: maybe I was premature, but it does have an Al 438 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: Davis old Al Davis feel where Al Davis was this 439 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: maverick and this pioneer and really knew the game. And 440 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: I think Jerry knew it better than ninety percent of 441 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: the owners. But it does feel like he's he's been 442 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: reluctant to surrender some of it. And I think all 443 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: of us lose our fastball. You know, you get into 444 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: the eighties and it's just an energy thing. And I 445 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: feel the same way with Mike Brown of the Bengals, 446 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: although the Cowboys are much more, you know, well healed, franchised, 447 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: well capitalized franchise. The NFL's gotten smarter and it's gotten harder. 448 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: Over my lifetime. There's more smart offensive coaches. And Jerry 449 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: has never respected coaches, and now is the time that 450 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: you have to respect coaches more than ever. Look what 451 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh did in six months to turn around the Chargers. 452 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: So in an era where coaching has never been better 453 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: and more valuable, Jerry has almost a disdain for the profession. 454 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: He does not care and think. And I think Cincinnati's 455 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: in the same spot. They just don't. They don't think 456 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: it matters that much. And it's like, folks, what is 457 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: Sean Payton worth in Denver? Whatever you're paying him from 458 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Matt Matt Hackett to Peyton is not enough. He's saved 459 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: eight years of misery in Denver. 460 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: Well, let's look at their division they've won. The Giants 461 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: have won a couple of Super Bowls in the last 462 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 4: twenty years. The Eagles have obviously won a couple of 463 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 4: Super Bowls in the last seven eight years. Jerry Reese 464 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: was a great GM. Howie Roseman obviously, he's arguably the 465 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: best GM. Now the Washington Commanders have Adam Peters, who 466 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 4: was trained by Belichick and John Elway and John Lynch. 467 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: Shouldn't Jerry try to hire a Howie Roseman and let 468 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: him run. 469 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeffrey Luriy goes. 470 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I benefit from having how we do this. Josh Harris, 471 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: pretty successful guy, says Adam, you run the football aspect, 472 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: and Jerry's is not willing to do that. Now, these 473 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: contracting gociations would still be a problem because he's the 474 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: owner and east side of the checks. So even if 475 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: the GM was there, maybe nothing would even change. Before 476 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 4: we get out of here, let's take a look at 477 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: the NBA. My favorite team, the Warriors, and your squad, 478 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: the Lakers, are littered all throughout the nationally televised games 479 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: this year. Yes, obviously the Knicks have been resurrected in 480 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 4: the thunder, but all four of them have thirty four 481 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 4: nationally televised games, which I'm pretty sure is. 482 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: The MAX allotted them out. 483 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty clear that the NBA is still riding 484 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: Stephan Lebron pretty hard. 485 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: Cau Well, yeah, I thought about this this morning. Did 486 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: you see what the Sphere in Vegas is doing? So 487 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: the Sphere in Vegas is this wildly popular music venue. 488 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: They're bringing the nineteen thirty nine hit Wizard of Oz 489 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: to the sphere. No new movies, no Wizard of Oz. 490 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Old in music, In politics and sports, old and familiar cells. 491 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: I mean Biden, Trump to Biden to They're all near 492 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: an eighty old is familiar. We get a little comfort 493 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: out of it. It's a little bit more traditional. Everybody 494 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: tells me ofbout all these young politicians, they got no 495 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: shot to be in the White House in three years. 496 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: I look at this and I think they're going with Lebron, 497 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: They're going with Steph, They're going with the next you know, 498 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: they're going with a lot of Celtics. Have they had 499 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, by the way, would be right behind the 500 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: Lakers and Warriors, But they don't. So I think they're 501 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: just leaning on familiar faces. I got to take for 502 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: you and listen. 503 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: This could be prisoner of the moment, But I don't 504 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: think we will ever see a guy or two guys 505 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: in the NBA is famous. 506 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: As Lebron and Steph moving forward. 507 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: I mean you bring up Jason Tatum, He's not even 508 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: remotely in the same universe as those guys in terms 509 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: of fame and recognition from the casual fan. That's what 510 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: the NBA has always had, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Larry Magic. 511 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: That is what Steph and Lebron's still have to the 512 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: guy that's not watching eighty two games, maybe watching three 513 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: or four, but he will tune in, especially for Steph. 514 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: So my theory on this has always been the downside 515 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: of the NBA going international. So when we grow up, 516 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: it was a domestic league, and we watched all these 517 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: college stars for three and four years at Duke and 518 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: Kansas and Yukon and Syracuse in UCLA, and we built 519 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: these visceral connections like college football. Now it's a lot 520 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: of one and done and it's a lot of international players, 521 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: So we don't have any familiarity with the young stars 522 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: who often go to bad teams, don't make the playoffs 523 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: for two or three years, and then we forget about them. 524 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: International guys, I love them. They're like the top five 525 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: players in the league, but they don't have big personalities. 526 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: They go to their town, they're loyal, they don't want 527 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: to move, they want to hide. They just want to 528 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: ball and sleep. And I totally respect that. But this 529 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: is why Adam Silver is my only real knock on 530 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Adam Silver. He demonized college basketball, and now I think 531 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: he really realizes the value of Uke and Carolina and 532 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: Yukon and Michigan State. Please do not demonize them. They 533 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: are your free marketing campaign. I fall in love with 534 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: college players and they go to the NFL. I'm already 535 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: a fan. I don't watch college baseball, so they go 536 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: to the minor league system. I forget about him. College 537 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: basketball needs to embrace college NBA needs to embrace college 538 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: basketball because their issue is as the international pool has grown, 539 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: and these are remarkable players, those guys, they're not personality 540 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: guys Jokich and Sga. They want to go. They want 541 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: to go back to Belgium the minute the season ends. 542 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't blame them, but what you're seeing now is 543 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: you're right. There is no Lebron Steph And I mean 544 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: I think KD battling people on social media is actually 545 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: great because it makes him. I mean, he's interacting with 546 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: the fans. He's international guys. They want to ball and 547 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: get ready for the next game. I totally respect it, 548 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: but it's not good for marketing. They don't want to 549 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: be on social media, so. 550 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: They're gonna need Lebron and staff and Kevin Durant to 551 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: play like their Tom Brady into their mid forties. 552 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: Luckily, Lebron looks like he's. 553 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 4: Going to uh. 554 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff of the News, Well, that's the news, and 555 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by. There's always a duality with good 556 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: comes bad and and I think the international guys make 557 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: the NBA. So I love watching Yokich but he's not 558 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: a big personality. I love Yo kich U, Yannis have you. 559 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: The top five players are international. But you have to 560 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: realize international guys don't plan March madness most of the time. 561 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: That may change, but they don't plan March madness. Well, 562 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: what are we watch in college basketball? March madness? So 563 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: if you go to Michigan or you go you know, 564 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: you go to Michigan State, I'm gonna watch you. I'm 565 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna forge a relationship with you. And so 566 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: that that's the only downside international basketball is the league 567 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: has been grappling here with who's the face of our league? 568 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: And it's they're really struggling with. I don't think you 569 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: have to have a face of the league. I think 570 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: there's been more few. Like when I was a kid 571 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: growing up, I mean, my favorite player was Doctor J 572 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 1: and he was from the ABA, but I just liked 573 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: his style. So I don't think you have to have 574 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,239 Speaker 1: a face of the league. But it did help when 575 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: you had Magic Bird and MJ and Shaq and Kobe, 576 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: it helped. I mean, Tim Duncan, great player, wasn't like 577 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: a personality, So they're kind of looking for that guy, 578 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: and I don't think he currently exists, and that's why 579 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: the schedule is heavy Lebron and heavy stuff. And again 580 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: KD going back and forth on social media actually actually 581 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: is a positive for the league. He's interacting, communicating back 582 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: and forth with a customer. It's a good thing. The 583 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: home you've worked so hard for is ready to work 584 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: hard for you. 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So you're probably saying, I don't get it. 599 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. So what I'm I'm not going 600 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: to insinuate somebody's tanking, but I do think there is 601 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: a way to build a roster that doesn't prioritize winning today. 602 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: Let's say for a franchise in a tough division that 603 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: needs a star quarterback like Arch Manning. So you're not 604 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: going to tank in the NFL. But if you keep 605 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks, that means every Sunday you have three people 606 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: that will not play in already one of the weakest 607 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: rosters in a tough division. So Philadelphia is prioritizing winning 608 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: every day of the year because they have their offensive line, 609 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: they have their quarterback. When when the Colts had an 610 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: old Peyton Manning, I think they made a move in 611 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: that final year seeking Andrew Luck where they didn't prioritize 612 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: winning for the short term. I have defended that you 613 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: can't tank in hockey or football, they're too physical. But 614 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: you can make roster moves that don't prioritize winning. Sunday 615 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: guys a little banged up, why don't you take Sunday off? 616 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: You're valuable to us next year. It's like quiet quitting. 617 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: I would get rid of Kenny Pickett and try to 618 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: get a seventh round pick. I've said before i'd start Flacco, 619 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: I'd go with Schadur after that. Many people really do believe. 620 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting Dylan Gabriel, and again I 621 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: view Shadour Sanders better size, better movement. Many people view 622 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel as better in the film room, more serious 623 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: and throws a beautiful accurate ball. I'm not sitting here 624 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 1: judging film. I like what I see with Shadur, but again, 625 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: he's kind of an unserious kid that bothers me a 626 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: little bit. I've always said I want my quarterbacks hat on, straight, boring, 627 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: all business. I'm not a Johnny Manziel guy. He's probably 628 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: a great person. Total turn off to me, total turnoff. 629 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: And Shadur's got some of that I don't love. But 630 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad kid. I think he's 631 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: a good kid. And I think he's a talented kid. 632 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: Dave Wantstatt was on the show yesterday on the quarterback 633 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: dilemma in Cleveland. 634 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 8: I think Sanders is probably your and best option. And Gabriel, 635 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 8: will he ever get better? Is he about as good 636 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 8: as he's gonna be right now? Can he improve? I 637 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 8: don't know. That's a real tough one. I try to 638 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 8: keep the personalities out of it as long as they're 639 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 8: doing all the right things in the classroom and on 640 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 8: the field. 641 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: So again, if you if you keep four quarterbacks, you 642 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: could see like the Philadelphia Eagles saying, listen, we have 643 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: a great roster. We don't need the extra slot corner. 644 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: We've already got two. We like, Cleveland needs the most 645 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: athletes they can get, and and so by going into 646 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: every Sunday with three guys that aren't gonna play, you know, 647 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: you could probably use another slot corner, you know, probably 648 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: another interior linement on the roster. And you're like, now, 649 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. So I don't think 650 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: it's prioritizing winning, but I totally get what they're doing. 651 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: They want to get Jimmy Haslam wants archs Manning. There 652 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: is one Jimmy Haslam likes headlineans Manzell Baker, Deshaun Watson's 653 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: ridiculous contract. He likes the headline. I get it. It's 654 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: his team. He's a billionaire. I'm not. But I think 655 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: he wants arch Manning. He is very closely connected to 656 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: the SEC Jimmy Sexton. I think they absolutely want arch Manning. 657 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: That is my belief. And so keeping four a week 658 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: rosters just a little weaker. That's what it feels like 659 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: to me. Doesn't mean you're tank and you're not trying 660 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: to lose. But we all know this. There's certain things 661 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: as a parent, you prioritize now and some things you're like, yeah, 662 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: this is fine, let's worry about down the road. You know, 663 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: we all sacrifice some things now for later. It's called 664 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: a four oh one K. I could have a much 665 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: better car now, but I'd like to retire at sixty 666 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: six and not seventy four. Same in pro sports, like 667 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: we're prioritizing next year's draft number one winning Sunday. I mean, 668 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: we want to do that too, but you're prioritizing next 669 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: year's incredible quarterback draft last. That's what it feels like 670 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: to me. So I've said this before when I used 671 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: to work in a local television and when I left, 672 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: I mean, journalism died at a local level. So when 673 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: I used to work in local TV, I had a 674 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: couple of news directors that were very fiery, and eventually 675 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: they were very good, and eventually they'd burn some people out, polarizing, 676 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: and then the owner of the station would hire a 677 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: replacement for the fiery, intense news director who was really 678 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: good but kind of wore people out after like six 679 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: seven years, and they always, without exception, the pendulum swung 680 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: too far and they hired a soft guy and a 681 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: nice guy and a never mean guy, an ice cream 682 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 1: for breakfast guy, and the newsroom would deteriorate overtime because 683 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: now we had mister softy running the operation. And the 684 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: truth is sometimes mean helps. And in the NFL, building 685 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: a culture means breaking stuff, it means being hard cutting players. 686 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Andy Reid and Sean McVay. I 687 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: love those guys. Their cutthroat, don't kid yourself. Sean mcvay's 688 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: handsome smiles, looks good pro player, cutthroat, Andy Reid, that 689 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: Jim Harball, John Harbaugh. I love them. Sean Payton, love them. 690 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: It'd been this okay. So Miami had one of those guys, 691 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: Brian Flores. He was mean, but he like had a culture. 692 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: By like week nine of his first year, they like 693 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: led the NFL and takeaways. Year two, one of the 694 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: least penalized team didn't get along with TUA, but that 695 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: team was physical and tough. I think by the end 696 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: of the year one he beat Brady and Belichick when 697 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: they were you know, rolling, but he was tough and 698 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: some said borderline abusive, and so they got rid of 699 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: mean guy and the hired swell guy. And I think 700 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's really smart and I like him. He's funny, 701 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: he's kind of like, kind of looks like a sports 702 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: writer with a good sense as a humor. And this 703 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: team right now are a big bowl of jello. And 704 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: I've talked about that, and so Jalen Ramsey took a 705 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: shot at him the other day. Now as a Pittsburgh Steeler. 706 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: And it's just a classic example. And I've seen this 707 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: my entire life. I've seen it anecdotally in my life. 708 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: Is when you've got harsh, mean, tough guy and he 709 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: wears some people out and he let him go, the 710 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: pendulum ola swings way too far the other way. And 711 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: I wish Mike McDaniel had a little Brian Flores. It's 712 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: been a bad camp for Miami. It's not been good 713 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: in TA yesterday. Talked about yesterday's practice and this sounded 714 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: like another stinker. 715 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 9: I wouldn't give myself a grade. I don't think that's 716 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 9: fair to grade yourself. 717 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: I think that's for you guys to do with. 718 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 9: However you guys report that and whatnot. I think today, offensively, 719 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 9: was a very frustrating day, you know, in regards to 720 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 9: what we wanted to do. What we said we wanted 721 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 9: to do came out, you know, and we just weren't 722 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 9: able to get things jump started. So I was very 723 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 9: frustrating today. 724 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: Now, the good news for Miami, they're in the same 725 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: division as the Jets, and that could be a two 726 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: and zero run this year. But New England is significantly 727 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: better and as long as Josh Allen's in his prime. Buffalo. 728 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo is dominated, dominated. Miami just scores whatever they want to. 729 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: So but it is kind of a cautionary tale, and 730 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: I've seen this a lot in my life, is that 731 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: if you want to bring in a coach that changes 732 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: the culture, you got to break some eggs. And it's mean, 733 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: guy has value, you want me. Like Tom Coughlin came 734 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: into New York. He was a lot and the owner 735 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: finally said, Tom, we love you, but you look like 736 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: a plum your bright red face. Brian Kelly had some 737 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: of this at Notre Dame. It was like, Brian, lighten 738 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: up a little. But what's interesting, Notre Dame didn't go 739 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: get a softie. They went and got a super hyper 740 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: intense smart guy Marcus Freeman on staff. And he's intense 741 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: and he holds players accountable, but he's more likable than 742 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly. So Notre Dame did it right, like they 743 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: had a guy that was really intense, needed to lighten 744 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: up a little bit, but they didn't let it swing 745 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: the other way and go get vanilla soft serve ice 746 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: creat you know, they went and Marcus Freeman is intense, smart, demanding. 747 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: Now it's Notre Dames. He recruit really accountable, smart kids. 748 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: But that's the Notre Dame did it the way you 749 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: should do it. Take some of the gifts of the intense, 750 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: demanding guy Marcus Freeman. I mean, that team is physical, 751 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: they play hard. He is tough but fair. Notre Dame 752 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: did it right. I think Miami kind of missed on it.