1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to the second hour of the 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Clay in Bucks Show. Clay's on vacation with the family 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: back Monday. I've got some immigration to talk to you 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: about here. First off, what's getting the most attention is 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: the city of New York. They're these of photos video 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: of the Roosevelt Hotel. This is right near Grand Central, 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: right in midtown Manhattan, right where I lived before I 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: moved in the same area. There there's just a mass 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: of migrants living on the street, effectively waiting for a 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: time to be processed, to get free housing and free 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: free food, free healthcare, free everything. And this is all 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: under the guys that they are asylum seekers. They're not 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: asylum seekers. And this is the fun mental lie. This 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: is this is the beginning of all of the nonsense 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: and the degradation of our laws and the destruction of 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: our sovereignty. The numbers speak very clearly of those who 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: will even show up to their asylum hearings, which is 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of drop off. There's a backlog of 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: a number of years, no doubt, a lot of these 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: millions of illegals who have come in just under the 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Biden administration's probably at about what's six million. Now they'll 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: have children here, will be told the children are US citizens, 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: and then you can't deport the parents of a US citizen. 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: And you know, the whole system is in a state 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: of collapse. It is a slow moving legal train wreck, 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: if you will, or as train wreck in slow motion. 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: That's what's and it's by design, it's intentional. So you know, 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: we're talking last hour about the elites and the system 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: they set up. You know, we're at a time when 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: people who don't have advanced degrees in from elite university 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: are being told that this doesn't put pressure on your wages, 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: This doesn't affect your ability to get a job. That 34 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: is not true. That is not true. Supply and demand 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: still counts in the labor market, no matter how much 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: they tell you it doesn't. I've actually been I remember 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: I was at a very a dinner with some very 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: connected people in the Republican Party, let's put it that way, 39 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: and one of them was saying, well, you know, it's 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: we need the illegals because they're the only ones who 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: will do the work for my company, for the wages 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: that I want to pay to which I say, oh right, 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: So you benefit from exploiting the people who aren't even 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be here so they're not on the books 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: by paying them less than they're supposed to get it. 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: You know, then you socialize the costs of everything else healthcare, education, housing, 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: to the American tax payer. You don't want to pay 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: them the wage that we should have. So we all 49 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: see what's going on. It's all very clear, but they 50 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about this. Another thing with the elites. 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: You notice people run and own big corporations. Oh, they're 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: always very pro legal. Disney's very pro illegal. All these 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: big companies very pro illegal. And you say, well, hold 54 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: on a second, what's going on with this Facebook. I 55 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: mean a lot of these a lot of these very 56 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: powerful corporations are anti really anti Anny borders. They are 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: the more the better, we can just pay people less 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: and less and less. But what you see in New 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: York is a reflection of what's happening in much of 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: the rest of the country, where these migrants are being 61 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: bussed and being sent And I think this is an 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: excellent political move. I think it's a necessary political move 63 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: by Republicans because they've been saying for years one of 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: the fundamental questions that I would always bring up when 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: I would debate some lib about illegal immigration. I would 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: say okay, because they'd say it grows the economy, and 67 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: we need these people to do all this stuff, and 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: they work so hard and they're more law abiding the Americans. 69 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: There we say that too, they work harder and or 70 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: better more law abiding than Americans, which I say, really, 71 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: that's that's an interesting stance for an America to take. 72 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: We need more illegals because they're better than the people 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: who are already here at the following things. But I 74 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: would say what's the downside of legal immigration? They would 75 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: never have an answer for me, And then I would say, well, 76 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: why not just have an open border? They would start 77 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: getting huffy. No, seriously, why not have If they can't 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: tell me, If Biden and Pelosi and the Democrats can't 79 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: come up with a single reason why I legal immigration 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: is bad, then why pretend to fight it at all, 81 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: which is what they're doing. They're pretending to fight it 82 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: or to try to limit it while letting more and 83 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: more of it happen. Yeah, and this is playing out 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: now where we see, Oh it turns out when people 85 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: like me for years, I've been following this issue for 86 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: a long time now because I think it's absolutely critical 87 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: for the country when we say things like illegal immigrants, 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: who especially those who come into the country have just 89 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: come into the country, are going to need a lot 90 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: of resources, a lot of assistants. They're not just gonna 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: do the jobs Americans won't do. That is a lie, 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: or at least it's a live omission because it leaves 93 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: out a lot of other things. And we see that otherwise. 94 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: Wise Mayor Eric Adam saying we need four billion dollars. 95 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: What you need four billion dollars for? They're gonna do 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: the jobs Americans won't do. It's all We're all, fine, 97 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: what's the problem. You know, we're bringing in the next 98 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: founder of Google. Don't you know that? That's what they've 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: been saying. They are such liars, And this is across 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: the elites. This is actually a Democrat and Republican problem. 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: This is the GOP and the Department of Commerce and 102 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: some of the big fancy think tanks in DC. They're 103 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: all about this. They're you know, Paul Ryan was a 104 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: big more immigration and very soft and illegal immigration guy. 105 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: You go back, you look at some of the voices 106 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: in the GOP in recent years, you say to yourself, 107 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: what is going on here? Well, not only do you 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: have this problem in New York, I just want to 109 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: note that the Biden administrator. There are all these stories 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: in June Politico other Democrat propaganda outlets. Illegal border crossings 111 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: hit their lowest level in June since Biden took office. 112 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: So we're supposed to say, oh, it's great, he's got 113 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: this under control. It's one hundred thousand a month. Think 114 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: about that, the lowest levels in spot. Well, a low 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: level is one hundred thousand. If you were to play 116 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: that out over a year, it's over a million illegals. 117 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: And they're they're talking about how great this is. They're 118 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: saying because after Title forty two was lifted, See, it 119 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. Does anyone want to guess what happened 120 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: last month? There are all these news stories you can 121 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: go see for yourself. It's fascinating. Oh, the illegal immigration 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: number dropped to about one hundred. It's like ninety nine 123 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: thousand something was the official number. And does that even 124 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: include godaways, No, doesn't include visa overstays. No, just people 125 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: just running across and hey here I am, oh I 126 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: want asylum. Wow, everybody wants this, all of all of 127 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: you know the world. It seems to our south now 128 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: things are so rough that people can just say I 129 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: don't want to live in that country, I need asylum. 130 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: What And then all over the world too, they're coming 131 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: from one hundred and seventy countries claiming they need asylum. 132 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: The whole world thinks that it needs asylum, and by 133 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: some they mean the massive open door welfare state of America. 134 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Now that's what's really happening. But the number jumped thirty 135 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: percent last month, which is so weird because when I 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: looked for the Politico follow up piece on this, I 137 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: couldn't find it. Hey, you're writing these pieces about look 138 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: at what a drop there is an immigration? Illegal immigration. 139 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: They don't even say that anymore. They say undocumented, they 140 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: say non citizen. They're just trying to muddy up the 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: water as much as they can so nobody can see 142 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: what's going on. No one knows what's going on. The 143 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: number jumps thirty percent, thirty percent in July, and there's 144 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: just like crickets, not a lot of not a lot 145 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: of media interest in this, which means you're back at 146 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: a one hundred and thirty thousand, and the number is 147 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: only going to go up from here. That's what we're 148 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: dealing with right now. Another thing that happened the Bided 149 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: administration because they realize why now, this is the thing, 150 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: why would they do this? The Obama administration did the 151 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: same thing because I was covering this issue closely to 152 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: the Obama administration. They step up enforcement going into a 153 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: presidential reelection because they know the American people aren't with 154 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: them on this. And the way the Obama administration did 155 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: this was to change the definition of what countered as 156 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: a deportation. Go back and read about this one. This 157 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: is fun. If you were turned away at the border, 158 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: caught turned away, that's a deportation. Well, hold on a second, 159 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: never really entered the country in the first place. So 160 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: what the Biden White House has tried to do now 161 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: is say, fine, we're going to enforce the law, and 162 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: it is the law that you can't come to America. 163 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: This is amazing. We've talked about millions of people arriving 164 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: saying that they need asylum, but you're not allowed to 165 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: claim asylum. Under our immigration laws as they currently stand, 166 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: if you have transited through another country. This goes to 167 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: the heart of the whole scam. Somebody arrives here from 168 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, from Cuba, let's say, or from Venezuela, or 169 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: from you know, me and mar Burma, whatever, anywhere, Pakistan, 170 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: you name it. Somebody arrives here, they go to Mexico 171 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: and they then go on foot through Mexico. If they 172 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,359 Speaker 1: haven't applied for asylum in Mexico, they aren't seeking asylum. 173 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: They are seeking to skip the immigration line because they 174 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: should be able to be safe in Mexico, why not 175 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: at least try to get asylum there. They don't want 176 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: asylum there. They want to go to America because it's 177 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: a rich country. And because now increasingly the illegals in 178 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: this country are told and I mean the newer I 179 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: don't mean people that have been here for twenty years illegal. 180 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean the new arrivals are being told you are 181 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: as American as anybody else, even though you have no 182 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: legal status and no legal right to be here, and 183 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: you deserve our apologies for what we've done around the world, 184 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: and we need to give you, you know, special benefits 185 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: and everything else. That's what they're being told. There's no gratitude. 186 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: That's not what's being taught to them by the left. 187 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: It's not you know, wow, this country gave me asylum. 188 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: It used to be you got asylum because you're fleeing 189 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: a country that you would be murdered and maybe your 190 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: entire family would be murdered if you could not get 191 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: out of That is why we have an asylum program, 192 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: and it's a very decent humanitarian thing to do. It 193 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: is the goodwill of the American people expressed through what 194 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: should be a small component of immigration policy. But what's 195 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: happened is it's just become this massive, not even a loophole. Now, 196 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: it's just a giant gateway to skip the whole process, 197 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: to skip the whole process. You know what happened that 198 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: the Biden administration said, oh, we're gonna start because we've 199 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: got to figure out something or else. The numbers are 200 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: going to look terrible going into election. Obama administration to 201 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: this tube. They started to call Obama the deporter in chief, 202 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: and then you know what happened, He won reelection and 203 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: went for amnesty. What do you think, Joe Biden or 204 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: whichever Democrat is going to do. What do you think 205 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna do if they managed to get another four years? 206 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: And you want to place bets with me on whether 207 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: they're going to try to push through and it depends 208 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: on obviously what the Senate and how House situation is. 209 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: But if they can they can get some Republicans to 210 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: go along with it, they'll call it a phased progression 211 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: of immigration reform. They'll have some it's emnesty. That's what 212 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. But they try to headfake the voters 213 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: going in. That's what's going on. But this is the 214 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: this is the amazing part. I should say amazing, But 215 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: just you know, if in case you thought things couldn't 216 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: get any worse, A federal judge of the California Northern 217 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: District Court has ruled against has ruled against the efforts 218 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: of the Biden administration to start to actually enforce immigration 219 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: law as it pertains to asylum. So even when the 220 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: Democrats realize the system is so bad and they have 221 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: intentionally broken it so much that it could be a 222 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: political liability, all you need is one active as federal 223 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: ju who's open borders. What can you do? What can 224 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: you do? I mean, they keep saying the system is broken. No, 225 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: people are breaking the system, and people are breaking the laws. 226 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: These are active choices. This is not a passive process. 227 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: But this is where we are. So as you see 228 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: the people, the photos of the streets in New York 229 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: City and what's going on there, that's just a symptom 230 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: of the overall malady here of a wide open border 231 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: under the Bide administration. And this is what the Democrats wanted. 232 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: This is the system working as they have chosen to 233 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: make it work. It's not an accident, it's not a 234 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: side effect. We win or this keeps going and in 235 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: fact we win, or this gets worse. 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First up 260 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: here we have let me start, shall we with in 261 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: the VIP box we have uh doctor j This election 262 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: is being compared to a lot, but really it's the 263 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: battle of the bulge. We need a patent, and by god, 264 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: I think we've got one. His name is Trump. Well, 265 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: the good guys won the Battle of the Bulge. We'll 266 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: see if we win this one. Ernest writes in again, 267 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: if you want to be a VIP, go to Clayandbuck 268 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: dot com. He writes, it seems to me that the 269 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: fifty one intelligence officers that sign that letter saying Hunter's 270 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: laptop was Russian propaganda committed the real conspiracy to commit 271 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: fraud against the government. It's interesting, Ernest, you know the difference. Really, 272 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: the only difference is, as I see it, they're going 273 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: to claim that they have Trump, they have proof that 274 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Trump knew what he was telling everyone was false. Now 275 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you those fifty one intelligence officers, all 276 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: of them knew what they were saying wasn't true. But 277 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: is there evidence of them showing that right. That's the 278 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: only thing I could say that would be somewhat different 279 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: about the outcome or the way that all went down. 280 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: Let me see here, Pat Buck, keep up the great work. 281 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I need more Fauci imitations. I need to spit coffee 282 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: on my mind. 283 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,359 Speaker 2: Well, if you just want the fouch to make appearances, 284 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: you gotta send me, perhaps a VIP email where I 285 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: can tell everyone that it is high time for three 286 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: or perhaps four masks. 287 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: That is the minimum we have. Fauci's replacement has been 288 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: named uh. And this woman had a video. 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Welcome back, Team Clay and Buck 324 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Show going strong and I wanted to talk to you 325 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: about this story because I was you know, we started 326 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: off first hour getting into some of the ways that 327 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: the elites leave everybody else high and dry, so to speak, 328 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: and don't care about the consequences of their policies for 329 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: everyone else. I was honing in on the economy and 330 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: immigration with that, but crime is right alongside it, and 331 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: criminal justice policies. These we talk often about the Soros 332 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: backed prosecutors. I mean, think about this. George Soros, a 333 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: foreign born ultra billionaire, has decided to give money to 334 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: make sure in as many cities as possible, and he 335 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: does this sometimes through cutout organizations that he funds. Have 336 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: people supposed to enforce the law who will take the 337 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: most favorable view possible of criminals and the least have 338 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the least care for victims and for society overall, the 339 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: least punitive approach. No matter what we're talking about here, 340 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: no matter what kind of crime, you know, they're gonna 341 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: stew to the side of it's not that bad. Let's 342 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: give him another chance. Doesn't everybody do an armed robbery 343 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: once in a while. What's the big deal? Come on, 344 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: it's his ten stolen car. Maybe he had a rough upbringing, right, 345 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: that's the essence of it. But the problem with it 346 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: is as you know, it just gets worse all the time, 347 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: and it is overwhelmingly people living in working class neighborhoods, 348 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: and as a percentage, overwhelmingly even within those neighborhoods minorities, 349 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: racial ethnic minorities who suffer the consequences of these idiotic policies. 350 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: So it is remarkable. I mean, Nancy Pelosis say, well, 351 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: she lives in a mansion. Well, things got so bad 352 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. She had some guy break in and 353 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: attack her husband. But that's how bad it has gotten 354 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of cities now. Even the wealthier areas 355 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: in cities are just overrun with crime. There's far too 356 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: much of it. And this is getting a lot of attention. 357 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: A bunch of seven eleven workers. We have this up 358 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: the video ops so you can see it at clayandbuck 359 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: dot com. Two seven eleven workers in California. Think about this. 360 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: These are guys who they're working long hours. I'm making 361 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: a lot of money. They're trying to do it the 362 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: right way. They're providing goods and services. They're they're you know, 363 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: hoping to build up, you know, save some money, maybe 364 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, either start their own franchise or their own 365 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: business or get into something else whatever, right, but they're 366 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: doing it the right way. And they have some guy 367 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: who walks in. It's all on video, and he takes 368 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: a trash can and just starts filling it up with 369 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: tobacco of products, cigarette, cigars, all of this. And the 370 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: guy has no this you know, it's broad daylight, doesn't care, 371 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: goes in with a trash can and is just nonchalantly 372 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: filling the trash can with as many easily resellable products 373 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: as possible. I mean, I don't know what what is 374 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: a packet? Doesn't a pack of cigarettes cost like fifteen 375 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: dollars or something. I don't smoke, so I don't know, 376 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: but I know they're very expensive. I guess probably says 377 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I can't see it here, I'm there, Oh gosh, this yeah, 378 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: seventeen ninety nine, God, cigarettes got expensive. So this guy's 379 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: taking you. You think about this, he's filling the whole trash can. 380 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: He's stealing hundreds of dollars worth of stuff at least, 381 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: and in California, as we know, in places like San Francisco, 382 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: if you steal less than nine hundred, he won't even 383 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: arrest you. They might give you a ticket, like a 384 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: speeding ticket kind of a thing, a ticket to appeared. 385 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: They won't even make it arrest and these two words. 386 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: This was in stocked in California. I was looking for that. 387 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: These two workers in stocked in California had just had 388 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: enough and they tackled this guy to the ground. I mean, 389 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: by the the trash can is full of stuff. I 390 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: mean he's probably got I mean it's it's easily getting 391 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: close to like a thousand dollars worth of merchandise and 392 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: there has to be And they just said, and they 393 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: kept asking him, they said, you know, no, no, please 394 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: don't please, don't stop. Stop. This guy doesn't care. I'm wondering, 395 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: does anyone think this guy who, well, let me get 396 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: to what happens first. So then the employees they they 397 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: grab him and they tackle him to the ground, and 398 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: one guy starts beating in with a broom handle, I 399 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: mean just starts to whacking them really hard. And I 400 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: can tell you it's not entirely clear this course of 401 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: the New York Post when the incident took place. Uh So, 402 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: this has gone super viral, but everyone who's looking at 403 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: it now is just saying, you know, it's interesting. They're 404 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: coming to conclusions that what do you expect people to do? 405 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: The cops won't do anything. Are you just supposed to 406 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: get stolen? You know, you're supposed to allow yourself to 407 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: be stolen into bankruptcy? Are you supposed to allow someone 408 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: to destroy your business? Some says, oh, it's just some stuff. 409 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: This is the like the idiot lib voice that comes in. 410 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: It's just some stuff one time. It's just some it's 411 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: not one time. There's theft going on in these places 412 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: all the time. Retail theft in America has skyrocketed to 413 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: ninety four billion dollars according to the National Retail Federation, 414 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: a ninety percent increase over the last few years, a 415 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: ninety percent increase. So it's and it's destroying businesses, it's 416 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: destroying cities. You asked this question, what are people supposed 417 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: to do? Just let themselves be stolen into having to 418 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: close down their store? You know that store pays people's salaries. 419 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: That store allows people to pay their mortgage to you know, 420 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: put food on the table for their wives and children. 421 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: So it's just a joke. Now, if some guy wants 422 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: to come in, there's gonna steal and we all know 423 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: this guy. No one goes into a store with a 424 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: trash can and fills it with the most easily sellable 425 00:25:53,960 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: material possible and it's their first theft. Okay, it's not 426 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: like this guy was walking out with a pack of 427 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: smokes he didn't pay for in his back pocket. He 428 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: just went in there, waltzed in with a trash can 429 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: in front of them, didn't care, filling it with stuff. 430 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: And I can tell you a lot of you can 431 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: see the Democrats are Oh, why are they? Why are 432 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: they taking the law into their own hands? I'm sorry? 433 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: Does the law protect these people anymore? Does the law 434 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: protect the store owners? Does the law protect the employees? 435 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Because it doesn't seem like it, So what are they 436 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: supposed to do? Well, this is what I've been saying along. 437 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: The Democrat Party has embraced a full scale mass hysteria, 438 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: a delusion, if you will, whereby if we just allow 439 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: criminals to commit all their crimes, eventually they'll get tired 440 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: of it and somehow society will just like reset to 441 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: a better place. This is completely insane, but they believe this. 442 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: They believe this, and they think that what causes all 443 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: this crime is things like are justice system being being unequal? 444 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: Systemic inequality things like that. That's what causes the crime 445 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: wave that we're seeing. You say, well, hold on a second, No, 446 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: I think what causes the crime wave is the lack 447 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: of enforcement of the law that allows criminals to keep 448 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: committing more and more crimes. That's maybe a good place 449 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: to start with all this. 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Is she somebody 483 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: who believes when she says the nonsense? 484 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: Well? 485 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: Well, I thought This was a quite a Pelosi is 486 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: quite a moment for her amazing at picking stocks, which 487 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: would be a shock to anybody who spoke to her 488 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: for a few minutes, because she does not seem like 489 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: she is knowledgeable about much of anything other than ruthlessly 490 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: staying in power in Congress, which is a skill set, 491 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: I suppose. But you wouldn't think that this would be 492 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: a person you'd want to entrust your in trust, your 493 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: life savings too. But Pelosi stock trades man. It's almost 494 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: like she must know something some other people don't. Here, 495 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: you have her though, saying you know this is it's heartbreaking. 496 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: It makes her so add that there are these charges 497 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: against the president of the United States. Play five. 498 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: It's heartbreaking for our country to have a president of 499 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: the United States with this list of charges against him. 500 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: And I just want to commend the January sixth Committee, 501 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 4: the House Committee, Bipartisan Committee, Benny Thompson and Liz Cheney, 502 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: in all the members of the committee and the staff 503 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: of the work that they did. They made a foundation 504 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: of facts about sex and the law and made a 505 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: criminal referral to the Justice Department. 506 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: Pelosi, who ran the total scam first impeachment of Donald 507 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: Trump over the yes, one hundred percent fine phone call 508 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: to Zelenski, and that was pre Russian invasions Zelenski, which 509 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: is interesting because, oh, that's right, Joe Biden becomes president, 510 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: Russia invades. You know, I'm not even talking about that 511 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: very much anymore, are we? This though? I was going 512 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: to say, maybe it's surprising. I guess a lot of 513 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: you are probably not surprised by it at all. Mike 514 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Pence is out there and he's telling everybody, you know, 515 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: I gotta say something. We had that moment it went 516 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: rather viral here on the show where Clay was asking 517 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: Pence repeatedly the very straightforward question about would he pardon 518 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump if he were president, and Pence wouldn't do it. 519 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: I gotta say there was a part of me that 520 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: was like, buddy, you're really I mean this, you were 521 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: as vice president for four years that the charge is. 522 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: You know, it's a different thing to say I disagree 523 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: with Trump's analysis and his conduct after the election. That's 524 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: a different thing to say. Then they should lock him 525 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: up on BS nonsense charges. Right. I thought maybe maybe 526 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: Pence was in the former category, which we could all 527 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: debate and argue with him as on that as much 528 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: as we want. That's politics. But no, now we're talking 529 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: about him about criminal prosecution and imprisonment. And we've seen 530 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: what a scam this is. We've seen what a sham 531 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: the Democrats are running here. And Pence just yesterday this 532 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: is what he says play clip for anyone who. 533 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: Puts himself over the constitution should never be president. 534 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: Of the United States. 535 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: And anyone who asked someone else to put themselves over 536 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: the constitution should never be president of the United States. 537 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Again, what the. 538 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: President maintained that day, and frankly has said over and 539 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: over again over the last two and a half years, 540 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: is completely false, and it's contrary to what our constitution 541 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: and the laws of this country provide. I dismissed it 542 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: out of hand, but sadly, the president was surrounded by 543 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: a group of crackpot lawyers that kept telling him what 544 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: his itching ears wanted to hear. 545 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: Where was Mike Penson all this for the last two years? 546 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Why just now? Why now when it is of maximum 547 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: benefit to the Democrats? Why wait until after they've brought 548 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: their prosecutions all coordinated to thwart the express will of 549 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: the American people through a free and fair election in 550 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. What's that all about, Mike, I'd say 551 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: we'd have him back to ask him these things. I'm 552 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: not sure he's going to come back anytime soon, but 553 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: it was exposed here on the show. He would not pardon, 554 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: He would let Trump sit in prison. That's really what 555 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: you get. That's what you understand. Now. We've talked a 556 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: lot about in this primary about loyalty and the different 557 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: forms of or different conceptions of loyalty people may have 558 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: if you were I said this to Clay before, as 559 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: like Clay, there's no world in which face he's running 560 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: for office and he's facing the years, maybe even decades 561 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: in prison, and I'm the president and I'm not pardoning him. Right. 562 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's you've got a partner in something, 563 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: whether it's a vice president or radio or a business 564 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm shocked at the lack of a sense 565 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: here from Pens. I shouldn't. I you know, shocked is 566 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 1: the wrong word. I don't want to say outrage because 567 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: that makes it sound like I'm pearl clutching or something. 568 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here saying, Mike, really, you've seen what 569 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: this Democrat machine is trying to do. Now. I'm not 570 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: saying he shouldn't have his quarrels or his his quibbles 571 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: with Trump over what went down after the twenty twenty election. 572 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: That's but that's not what this is. We're talking about 573 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: should Trump go to prison for this? And the answer, 574 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: it seems is Pence says yes, yes. I don't know 575 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: what else to take away from this, And he doesn't 576 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: say that explicitly, but we asked him about a party. 577 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: He said no. He says Trump should never be president again. Okay, 578 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean I am reading into this a little bit, 579 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: but at this moment, Trump is going to be going 580 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: into the DC court for his arraignment in just a 581 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: couple hours. I think after I talk to you here, 582 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: you're not gonna stand with him on the criminal issue, 583 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's the part of it. 584 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Maybe he would say, oh, I would consider a partner 585 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: something else, but oh boy, it's like some people just 586 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: don't know what time it is. Some people don't understand 587 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: what we are really up against here, what the other 588 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: side is throwing at us. And I think that that's 589 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: that's a disqualifier. That's something that people should understand, right. 590 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I always say this too. You can 591 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: tell a lot about a person based on how they 592 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: speak about somebody that had an important relationship with after 593 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: the fact. For example, I'll tell you this for the guys. 594 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: For any of the guys were single out there, obviously, 595 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: have you know six months of marriage now everybody, it's 596 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: going great for any of my single male listeners. If 597 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: you were ever on a date with a woman and 598 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: she proceeds to crash her last boyfriend, run run even 599 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: if it's even if it would be merited or true, 600 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: if the guy was a jerk or whatever, and she's 601 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: telling you that right away, if just and but true 602 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: of ladies, same thing. If you're out with a guy 603 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: and he goes, oh my ex was crazy, and you 604 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: know you're wet'll say, well, you how long you date 605 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: this person for? Or maybe how long are you married 606 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: in this person? And you're throwing them under the bus 607 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: right away, I mean, before you even know who I am, 608 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: or I'm just saying. I'm telling you it's it's a rule. 609 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: I have. You learn a lot about somebody by how 610 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: they handle a relationship with somebody that has gone the 611 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: wrong direction, which clearly the Trump Pence relationship did. But 612 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: let's talk here about the Gavin Newsom and Ronda Santis 613 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: throw down, the debate. We'll get into it coming up.