Speaker 1: Joe Biden plans to legalize eleven million illegal immigrants, the
Speaker 1: left shop and his daggers to persecute Trump and his
Speaker 1: support is long after he leaves office, and will black
Speaker 1: Americans regret voting for the new president. This is out
Speaker 1: Allowed with Gianno called Black. Welcome back to Autllow with
Speaker 1: Gianno called Well. I have to tell you that I'm
Speaker 1: so excited for today's show. My guest is the one
Speaker 1: and only David Webb. As I'm sure many of you know,
Speaker 1: David hosts The David Webb Show at Daily Talk Radio
Speaker 1: show in series x M Patriot. He also hosts reality
Speaker 1: Check with David Webb on Fox Nation and as a
Speaker 1: Fox News contributor. Plus, David is a writer for The Hill.
Speaker 1: A proud conservative, David is unafraid to say what he
Speaker 1: thinks and it is one of America's most prominent political commentators. Today,
Speaker 1: we're going to discuss Trump, Biden, immigration, the black vote,
Speaker 1: and so much more. Buckle up and let's go, David.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Ally with Gianno called Well, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming on, my friend. Anytime. Let's die absolutely so.
Speaker 1: Last time I saw you, we were having some nice
Speaker 1: cigars and a drink of it, your fancy, fancy place.
Speaker 1: Howe you been since then? That was about a week ago.
Speaker 1: I'm still you know, celebrating life. Living life gets tough
Speaker 1: times right for a lot of people out there. When
Speaker 1: I tell them they should try to do their best,
Speaker 1: my friend, it's uh, it's about enjoying what you have
Speaker 1: and making the most of what you have, no matter
Speaker 1: what it is or where you are. Absolutely I agree
Speaker 1: with that. And the big news, as we know is
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was wanted as the forty six president of
Speaker 1: the United States. His speech at the inauguration focused on
Speaker 1: the theme of national unity, but he also spoke of
Speaker 1: the rise of political extremism, and a lot of folks
Speaker 1: considered him to be attacking Trump supporters again, folks who
Speaker 1: just wanted the best for their country. They wanted their
Speaker 1: taxes low, They wanted to ensure that the country was
Speaker 1: on the right track, and it was American first priorities.
Speaker 1: What do you take from that is speech didn't seem
Speaker 1: that unified to me. What did you think? I mean?
Speaker 1: This is Joe Biden. This is not new to this campaign.
Speaker 1: I've been watching his history for decades now. Within the
Speaker 1: first two minutes or so of his inauguration speech, which
Speaker 1: I carried on my show, he used the term white supremacist,
Speaker 1: very reminiscent of his launch of his campaign from Charlottesville, Virginia.
Speaker 1: This is Biden that has played the race baiting game
Speaker 1: over the years. He's a professional politician, part of the
Speaker 1: DC cesspool, and he's wanted to be president since June
Speaker 1: when he first filed. So he played to his bass.
Speaker 1: He continues to play to his base. And you can't
Speaker 1: claim you want unity and then go out and go
Speaker 1: after some seventy five million people who voted for your opponent.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't add up. No, it doesn't. And the
Speaker 1: fact that his administration continues to not really have a
Speaker 1: true own statement on impeachment outside of well, the Senate
Speaker 1: can do business in terms of our priorities and also
Speaker 1: try the president. I mean, that's not really a unified message,
Speaker 1: and I think most people would agree with that sentiment.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break now and continue the conversation
Speaker 1: in the moment. The Biden policy, they're saying that there's
Speaker 1: going to be legalization of eleven million and legal immigrants
Speaker 1: currently living in America, and that number has been something
Speaker 1: that has been mentioned for years. We at least can
Speaker 1: as safely assume that the number is way larger than
Speaker 1: eleven million. And Joe Biden on this first day is
Speaker 1: talking about giving a pathway the citizenship to these individuals. Um,
Speaker 1: what is your take on giving citizenship to eleven million
Speaker 1: people who didn't come through the front door clearly of
Speaker 1: you know, I'm all for the Dreamers having a pathway
Speaker 1: to citizenship. They came here at no fault of their own.
Speaker 1: But there's other folks that are coming in trying to
Speaker 1: get be a part of this eleven million, which we
Speaker 1: know is much more than that. What's your take on that? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's start with the principle of immigration, which
Speaker 1: is designed to be selective, not necessarily fair. You select
Speaker 1: who you want to allow entry into the country legally.
Speaker 1: I've been covering the border since nine nineteen, so I've
Speaker 1: seen this play and you know, they would have us
Speaker 1: believe that eleven million people, which is a number that
Speaker 1: is now over a decade old, did not have davies,
Speaker 1: did not produced, did not bringing more illegals that have
Speaker 1: been crossing the border, as you and I have in
Speaker 1: this conversation or overstay in their visas. Biden said something
Speaker 1: that's key there, and I have been telling this to
Speaker 1: both call it minority groups and illegal aliens in this
Speaker 1: country and others that want all these proposals by the Democrats.
Speaker 1: He said, eight years. So if there's a pathway to
Speaker 1: citizenship over eight years, tell me where a current president
Speaker 1: Biden will be in eight years, and how do you
Speaker 1: get your promise kept. It's a deflection in the lie.
Speaker 1: It's a wedge issue that allows us to go on
Speaker 1: and then at the same time balkanize the country with
Speaker 1: more migrants. They're over ten thousand by some reports, gathering
Speaker 1: in multiple caravan south of the border. If they make
Speaker 1: it through the Dairy and Gap to the Mexico border
Speaker 1: on the south, security, health issues, health issues with the
Speaker 1: COVID pandemic, other things will come into play. How does
Speaker 1: that actually work? The truth is he can destroy our
Speaker 1: infrastructure and they can be fund or not fully fund
Speaker 1: ice in their operations to secure the country. That will
Speaker 1: have a great effect on their ability to do their jobs.
Speaker 1: And then what happens when they come in. You have
Speaker 1: wage suppression, You have an oversupply of labor for jobs
Speaker 1: that Americans need. What happens when you have an oversupply
Speaker 1: of labor. Now we have another problem. So Biden's promise is,
Speaker 1: like his political career, are words and the actions don't
Speaker 1: often follow the way he's promised. What's kind of interesting
Speaker 1: about this is we were told from a lot of
Speaker 1: folks in the Democratic Party that Joe Biden would govern
Speaker 1: from the middle, he would be a center left president,
Speaker 1: and we're already seeing that that isn't true. It I
Speaker 1: think a lot of conservatives feel is though, this is
Speaker 1: a president who really attacked the American norms that we've
Speaker 1: gotten used to over a decade after decade, do you
Speaker 1: feel any reason to be optimistic about his administration whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one chance for Joe Biden that I
Speaker 1: see right now, and who knows, there could be others.
Speaker 1: And it's only in the Middle East where stabilization after
Speaker 1: the abram Accords and now six total deals of recognition
Speaker 1: of Israel economic trade, the Bosnian Serbian Economic Trade Agreement,
Speaker 1: which actually obviously comes out of Eastern Europe with Israel
Speaker 1: so and and other nations recognizing that stability. And if
Speaker 1: you were to leave that alone, people on both sides
Speaker 1: of those equations Muslim or Jew or otherwise have stability.
Speaker 1: But when you look at Biden's promises, the taxpayers will
Speaker 1: pay the price Giano when you rejoined the rejoin the
Speaker 1: Parish Climate Accords America is roughly thirty to thirty five
Speaker 1: percent of the funding for that. What was really upset
Speaker 1: into them was just like the U n we pay
Speaker 1: the price. Just like NATO, we pay the price while
Speaker 1: they get the benefit, which the world doesn't get because
Speaker 1: China doesn't follow the accords. Burning a fibrous material would
Speaker 1: for fuel fire and more in Africa is also counterintuitive.
Speaker 1: So instead of solving the issues, they're just creating a
Speaker 1: sham of an approach on an issue that they actually
Speaker 1: don't have a real solution for, which is how we work,
Speaker 1: live and exist and grow a better environment around the
Speaker 1: Now that's a really great point. Now. I find it
Speaker 1: to be interesting that on day one and off, as
Speaker 1: Biden signed and executive or there halting the National Emergency
Speaker 1: Declaration that allowed Donald Trump to use additional funds to
Speaker 1: build a border wall, the order also pauses construction projects
Speaker 1: into further review. What do you think of Biden stopping
Speaker 1: construction on the border wall, which of course was one
Speaker 1: of Trump's key priorities. That one really troubles me, and
Speaker 1: it should Americans. We know what we catch, what we
Speaker 1: interdict in various ways along the southern border. For those
Speaker 1: of you who have never been to the southern border,
Speaker 1: it is a hell hole along the Rio Grand and
Speaker 1: other areas. It is a nightmare from a garbage trash
Speaker 1: disposal and human traffic in issue. So there's so many
Speaker 1: issues there. The walls funnel people into areas that are
Speaker 1: trying to cross illegally, so we can interdict them if
Speaker 1: they were too even leave it where it is and
Speaker 1: not take action. Remember what I said earlier about reducing
Speaker 1: the on and taking away their capability, reducing the beds,
Speaker 1: all the things they can do, reducing the process in
Speaker 1: the judicial system. Then what we'll see is a greater
Speaker 1: danger not just along the border, but they will spread
Speaker 1: into many states, not just the more liberal states, and
Speaker 1: into the sectors of the economy like construction, service industry,
Speaker 1: and agriculture and more. But these are the areas that
Speaker 1: will pay the price. So while people want to just
Speaker 1: focus on the border, and I'm glad you asked the
Speaker 1: question there, you've got to take that issue and go
Speaker 1: much broader and bring it home to your main street
Speaker 1: in your community to make it real for people. In
Speaker 1: other words, well, it is very real for them. For example,
Speaker 1: states that spend billions of dollars on education, billions of
Speaker 1: dollars on healthcare are taking that out of the taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 1: Then you add English as the second language. People come
Speaker 1: from non traditional or non existent school systems to go
Speaker 1: into these systems there, or you have to hire additional teachers,
Speaker 1: special teachers. They're taking resources away from the Americans who
Speaker 1: are illegally, whether they came here illegally or were born
Speaker 1: here as citizens. You're taking resources away from their children.
Speaker 1: You're taking resources away from their community hospitals, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, when you break that apart, it's not the
Speaker 1: really nice hospitals in the really nice areas of America
Speaker 1: that typically get the elites pulling up in their expensive
Speaker 1: cars for their treatments. It's community hospitals and localized state
Speaker 1: run hospitals that bear the brunt of this. And who
Speaker 1: do they serve, typically the underserved or lower economic areas
Speaker 1: of our nation. So who pays the price? Absolutely. Now,
Speaker 1: my point was, especially when it comes to younger people,
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily see those things that may impact business owners.
Speaker 1: I think back, think back to my grandfather, who small
Speaker 1: business owner plumber construction, who often talked about in Chicago
Speaker 1: how there was illegal immigrants taking opportunities. They would underbid
Speaker 1: and undercut him because they were using illegal help for him.
Speaker 1: It was a very real topic of discussion. It was
Speaker 1: something that impacted his business and impacted the way that
Speaker 1: he earned money. For other people on the street day
Speaker 1: to day, they may not necessarily see it, That's what
Speaker 1: I was pointing out there. So speaking of is as
Speaker 1: the point of immigration, Conservatives tend to comprehensive immigration plans
Speaker 1: and prefer tackling the issue piece by piece, usually beginning
Speaker 1: with border security. Do you agree with that approach? I
Speaker 1: agree with that approach is part of the starting point, Gianna.
Speaker 1: But we need to go further with this, not just
Speaker 1: border security, but we need a proper functioning system of
Speaker 1: detention and processing with immigration courts, add and judges. The
Speaker 1: Trump administration thought that battling were stopped by the way
Speaker 1: by some Republicans who did not want to improve that.
Speaker 1: So things have to work together, and to your point,
Speaker 1: by the way, breaking it real for people you know,
Speaker 1: the wage suppression issue is a big issue for young people.
Speaker 1: Starter jobs typically come where and starting positions and companies
Speaker 1: at every level or locally in your community. So if
Speaker 1: the conservative approach is going to address this, we've got
Speaker 1: to address it from the border, but we've got to
Speaker 1: come down the main street into those neighborhoods and find
Speaker 1: ways to enforce and remove, not to mention the criminal
Speaker 1: component of what happens when you have more poverty and
Speaker 1: lower earnings which are then either supplemented by taxpayer dollars
Speaker 1: or embedded and unfortunately in a negative way, uh increased
Speaker 1: crime in communities. And I understand that piece. What is
Speaker 1: the way, the right way of dealing with illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: currently living in the US. Would you be okay with
Speaker 1: putting them on the pathway a citizenship after the border
Speaker 1: secured in an effective, demonstrable way, or should we consider
Speaker 1: an alternative plan because we probably can't put out a
Speaker 1: level million people, we can send them home. Clearly, what
Speaker 1: is the right way of approaching this. It's not a
Speaker 1: path to citizenship. There are steps along the way, and
Speaker 1: they might be a consideration for limited amounts of legal
Speaker 1: lawful presence, which is actually the proper term for that.
Speaker 1: I've worked on this issue for years, testified on this issue,
Speaker 1: and worked with groups that have returned home projects. The
Speaker 1: federal government actually returns to legal aliens. We need enforcement,
Speaker 1: and I know it's not the answer people want to
Speaker 1: hear at times. And you will, You're right, you won't removal,
Speaker 1: you won't go in and weed out what is actually
Speaker 1: a higher number, uh probably closer to twenty how the
Speaker 1: high twenty millions or close to thirty million people. But
Speaker 1: you have more enforcement, more return and if you're removed,
Speaker 1: because there are parts of the population. Look, there are
Speaker 1: people looking for desperate looking desperately for help. They've come
Speaker 1: here for a reason. But unfortunately the law is still
Speaker 1: the law, and the law had to be enforced. It's
Speaker 1: not inhuman because it's inhuman to someone if they're paying
Speaker 1: the price for someone else's benefits. So when an American
Speaker 1: loses and an illegal alien gains, that's not in that
Speaker 1: if you know, that is wrong as well. So we
Speaker 1: do have to return those that we catch. We do
Speaker 1: have to punish the employers to hire illegal aliens. And
Speaker 1: I realize that's a lot of businesses that are small
Speaker 1: in some cases and construction sectors and others. But if
Speaker 1: you hire someone illegally, you're part of the problem. That's
Speaker 1: really interesting. I want to pick up through there in
Speaker 1: the moment, but first let's get a quick break now
Speaker 1: the side subject of the Dreamers. Why do you think
Speaker 1: Democrats didn't agree to Trump's deal of protecting the Dreams
Speaker 1: in exchange for enhanced bord of security Because it's a
Speaker 1: wedge issue. Democrats have used illegal immigration as a wedge
Speaker 1: issue against the right for years, and I have asked
Speaker 1: this question that as President Trump, I know, did we
Speaker 1: and I talked about this in person when he looked
Speaker 1: at the Democrats And I've looked at them for years
Speaker 1: and said, you know, where's the solution that you actually
Speaker 1: delivered In the Obama years when they had the super majorities,
Speaker 1: they could have given comprehensive immigration reform on one page
Speaker 1: with a swipe of a pen. They didn't. The Dreamers
Speaker 1: are a wedge issue, and it's an effective wedge issue
Speaker 1: because there's not a good solution that will satisfy the
Speaker 1: more art and or more strident conservative days. And you
Speaker 1: and I think we're closer to the reality of this
Speaker 1: is that we can find a path way, the lawful
Speaker 1: presence absent citizenship is my belief because it's no fault
Speaker 1: of their own. But this is the life they've known,
Speaker 1: and there's not a path to return home for them.
Speaker 1: They were not you know, they were just too young
Speaker 1: and brought here against their will in many cases, or
Speaker 1: brought here by their parents willfully. So let's find that path.
Speaker 1: But that wedge issue is more important to the Democrats,
Speaker 1: so they want to to use it to run uh
Speaker 1: and win elections. And certainly, if you're gonna illegalize, you're
Speaker 1: gonna give a pathway to citizenship to as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: just maybe twenty million, maybe thirty million people, then you
Speaker 1: have a new base of democratic, potentially democratic voters that
Speaker 1: will support you. And we know that that's a strong
Speaker 1: possibility because if you look at Florida, you see that
Speaker 1: there are some folks that have been who were really
Speaker 1: rescued by Republican president who feel loyal to the Republican party.
Speaker 1: So that's a possibility there isn't it? Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: And numbers matter here, you know, when you look at
Speaker 1: the black versus Latino population read large in America, Blacks
Speaker 1: represent a little undercent of the population Hispanics seventeen percent
Speaker 1: and growing at a faster birth rate, and in a
Speaker 1: blended community, which is natural communities, blend people live communally,
Speaker 1: illegally or legally. As you grow that base, you retain
Speaker 1: a percentage of that base. This is the hardcore world
Speaker 1: of politics that I've been, you know, unfortunately, unfortunately de
Speaker 1: and in for decades now. So if you retain a
Speaker 1: number of that base, you keep your power while delivering nothing.
Speaker 1: And conversely, they saw it to your point, and I've
Speaker 1: been Deliberty City, Liberty Square for Drinko Wilson's district, other
Speaker 1: areas I work, My wife and I are heavily involved
Speaker 1: in some of these areas where these black voters were saying,
Speaker 1: hang on a second. Trump got us some solutions, and
Speaker 1: I can tell you that bothers the Democrats, so they
Speaker 1: need to pivot to the next block to bring them in.
Speaker 1: Talking about black support, those African Americans who chose to
Speaker 1: support Joe Biden, and he promised that he was going
Speaker 1: to deliver all kind of positive policy changes on day
Speaker 1: one of his administration, and that one of his administration
Speaker 1: has already happened, and we've not seen that our African
Speaker 1: Americans getting played once again by Democrats who run for
Speaker 1: office with their support and never seemingly do anything for
Speaker 1: African Americans like this, this is It just boggles the mind.
Speaker 1: How do you team you to vote for a group
Speaker 1: of people who never deliver for you? Like I just
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Well, neither do I sometimes, But I've
Speaker 1: been working at this for years. It's going away little
Speaker 1: by little, uh And I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: But it hasn't gone away enough from the Democrat vote.
Speaker 1: And it's not even about becoming a Republican give you back.
Speaker 1: People should give themselves a choice, you know, make your
Speaker 1: vote worth something. If you give your unyielding loyalty to
Speaker 1: one party, they owe you nothing. They've got you. And
Speaker 1: that's the istory of Blacks and Democrats when their freedoms
Speaker 1: came from Republican starting with President Lincoln and then working
Speaker 1: forward through civil rights, through the battle for desegregation and
Speaker 1: voting rights. So Blacks need to look economically, look at
Speaker 1: what policies, conservative fiscal policies, business policies, capitalism, free market competition,
Speaker 1: and economics is what lifts communities out of poverty. Rather
Speaker 1: than keeping you bound to the government dime. And let
Speaker 1: me give you an example. Poss Off and Warnock in
Speaker 1: Georgia promised two thousand dollars to Democrat Baseballton County, Cobb
Speaker 1: County and others during the run to win the Senate,
Speaker 1: and now they're getting four hundred hundred dollars from Joe
Speaker 1: Biden and those same senators. Well, you just lost six
Speaker 1: hundred of your two thousand, you're getting fourteen hundred. If
Speaker 1: that's not an example of hey, vote for me, I'll
Speaker 1: give you this, but I'm giving you less. I don't
Speaker 1: know what is or nothing at all. And what really
Speaker 1: upsets me about this whole thing. You saw people like
Speaker 1: Maxine Waters who said if if black folks vote for Trump,
Speaker 1: she would basically disown them. She was talking about black men,
Speaker 1: which we know that Donald Trump got a large supporter
Speaker 1: base there wounded a lot of Republicans didn't even think
Speaker 1: was possible. And then we know that Donald Trump got
Speaker 1: the largest share of African American votes, or rather minority
Speaker 1: votes than any Republican and what almost modern history pretty
Speaker 1: much for the most part. So we saw the policy
Speaker 1: really resonated and it was you know, what do you
Speaker 1: have to lose this is what I can offer you,
Speaker 1: and this is what the other side has done for
Speaker 1: your vote. Nothing. So it's one thing that is It's
Speaker 1: something that I stick on because it really disappoints me
Speaker 1: and upset to me when I see a lot of
Speaker 1: people kind of chucking and driving. If you will, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about these Democrat politicians that will not do anything
Speaker 1: for our community but talk we I say, were blocks
Speaker 1: in America. The history of blocks in this country has
Speaker 1: been one of survival in very tough circumstances pre Civil rights,
Speaker 1: post civil rights, and what has helped family, god, community,
Speaker 1: building a business, owning what you know, using what's around
Speaker 1: you to better yourself. We gave that up for the
Speaker 1: government to be the provider of needs and determine what
Speaker 1: our wants are. To go back to that independence and
Speaker 1: use that independence to go to school, get a trade,
Speaker 1: get a degree, or go to work, whichever way you
Speaker 1: do it, and and own what you know, grow with
Speaker 1: what you know. They were millionaires, were billionaires, are the
Speaker 1: highest percentage of millionaires of any country in the world.
Speaker 1: The wealth capital is there, and frankly, go back and
Speaker 1: reinvest in your communities and help others. I go back
Speaker 1: and work in some of these cities like New York
Speaker 1: to help others get an education. You don't have to
Speaker 1: save the world, do the simple things that let blacks
Speaker 1: know they have a choice because education is a key
Speaker 1: component to that, and you will see the percentages rise.
Speaker 1: Now I agree with that. I think representation matters in
Speaker 1: the sense that people like you and me ship go
Speaker 1: into these communities and mentor because one thing that democrats
Speaker 1: are very skilled it is saying, hey, you, because you're black,
Speaker 1: you don't have the ability, you don't have the resources,
Speaker 1: you don't have to know how, you don't have the
Speaker 1: talent to do X, Y and Z because the man
Speaker 1: is holding you back. And that's really discouraging to me
Speaker 1: because as I was growing up on the South Side
Speaker 1: of Chicago, those are the things that I often heard.
Speaker 1: So it made me feel as though I wasn't empowered
Speaker 1: to move about my life and create a level of
Speaker 1: success that many people in my community have never seen
Speaker 1: because of what was told day after day. So these
Speaker 1: is really like a programming that goes on which makes
Speaker 1: you feel like you're inferior because of your color. And
Speaker 1: it's so it disenfranchises people with disenfranchises because the people
Speaker 1: every day, and it's so sad that in we're still
Speaker 1: in that particular position. You know, think about this, Giano.
Speaker 1: When the man is telling you that the man is
Speaker 1: not helping you and you haven't gotten anything for it
Speaker 1: of any real value, Come on, when do you stop
Speaker 1: believing them? It's it's not just the soft bigotry of
Speaker 1: low expectations, it's a very hard bigotry of we're not
Speaker 1: giving you anything to give yourself control, give you control
Speaker 1: of your life. That is a bigotry that is institutionalized
Speaker 1: by the Democrats. I absolutely agree with that. Let's dig
Speaker 1: into that further after a quick break. I want to
Speaker 1: bring this conversation back for a moment to where we begin.
Speaker 1: Biden a national unity. Throughout his presidential campaign, Biden portrayed
Speaker 1: himself as a moderate savior who would unify us, the
Speaker 1: man who can bring Americans together. But we know that
Speaker 1: Trump and his supporters wanted tougher immigration laws, and Biden's
Speaker 1: team doesn't seem interested in compromising at all. So how
Speaker 1: hopeful are you that President Biden will help unify the country.
Speaker 1: I'm really not, And that's tragic because the success of
Speaker 1: America is what I want, regardless of who's in the
Speaker 1: White House. I think, contrary to the or counter to
Speaker 1: the left wing poll for Joe Biden, who will play
Speaker 1: any card to any group just to keep himself where
Speaker 1: he is, uh, the American people will fight back out
Speaker 1: of just sheer need. Our unity is not down to
Speaker 1: a president. And this is something that I think we
Speaker 1: need to change. I amemeric, I know we need to change.
Speaker 1: Our unity is bound to our common needs, are common
Speaker 1: goals outside of party. And I know it sounds erudite
Speaker 1: for some and almost pollyannish for others, But how have
Speaker 1: we been successful in communities which then become the communities
Speaker 1: within a larger community of a nation. It's when we
Speaker 1: work better together. If you're working in your neighborhoods, if
Speaker 1: you're helping to work, to educate your kids, to make
Speaker 1: sure your streets are safe, to work with law enforcement,
Speaker 1: to you know, to do what you can with what
Speaker 1: you have. Think about that A force multiplier on that
Speaker 1: that's bigger than any politician. And yes, they can affect us. Packs, policies, culture,
Speaker 1: you know, consent decrees, failures in many way can affect us.
Speaker 1: But we really are this country. DC was empty for
Speaker 1: the inauguration. It's not the center of America, it's the capital.
Speaker 1: The center of America is all across this country. I
Speaker 1: think we're we are today and what our politics are
Speaker 1: and with the media's role in it is. And I'm
Speaker 1: very interested in your thoughts because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of folks in the media have demonized
Speaker 1: all Trump supporters evil, and I want to know from
Speaker 1: New House and conservatives respond to leftists who say they
Speaker 1: want the Republican Party to burn down and they're making
Speaker 1: lists of Trump supporters for political retribution. We've seen prominent
Speaker 1: journalists and Democrats engaging in this behavior. What should conservatives
Speaker 1: due to respond to this? For one, respond honestly, Okay,
Speaker 1: we have made our mistakes on the right, so let's
Speaker 1: let's be honest with the American people. Get them on
Speaker 1: our side again. Back to that eleven million plus that
Speaker 1: voted for not just Donald Trump, but for Republicans organst
Speaker 1: Biden in whatever way however they cast their vote, they
Speaker 1: chose a path for America. Focus on that, go into
Speaker 1: these communities and stay there. The media, pundits, the social
Speaker 1: media influencers and others, they're not going to change because
Speaker 1: there's no real way to counter them. So turn off
Speaker 1: the person on TV. Turned to the community, the local
Speaker 1: political communities, local action groups, the local foundations, turned to
Speaker 1: your church members, turned to your your co workers at work,
Speaker 1: talked about your common ideals, and then keep working from there.
Speaker 1: Make sure your kids are working together, they get to
Speaker 1: know each other so they can't be abused by the
Speaker 1: wrong information. We we want to be conservatives focused locally
Speaker 1: and then let that expand, and then we need support
Speaker 1: of people who will come in honestly on the those
Speaker 1: the platforms, like you or me. You know, we're Frankly,
Speaker 1: I love the fact that we consider and have a discussion,
Speaker 1: and you and I are not afraid to go out
Speaker 1: publicly and help multiply that message. Yeah yeah, And I
Speaker 1: like your point in terms of making sure your kids
Speaker 1: aren't getting the wrong information. And truthfully speaking, I'm not
Speaker 1: one who I don't have any children, I'm not married
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I would tell my kids, hey,
Speaker 1: make your own decisions, whether it be on the right
Speaker 1: or left. But here are the examples of what the
Speaker 1: left gets you, and this is what you get on
Speaker 1: the right. But you make your own choice and decision.
Speaker 1: So I I really appreciate that point. Now this is something.
Speaker 1: Is you the series XM radio show host and you've
Speaker 1: been involved in media for decades even I really want
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this. What about those on
Speaker 1: the left who are targeting the sponsors of right wing host?
Speaker 1: What's your conservatives doing? Respond? How people they tried to
Speaker 1: shut down your show at all? Have anyone did that?
Speaker 1: I know that you're a very vocal voice and you
Speaker 1: amplified and listened to by millions of people. Have you
Speaker 1: seen this on your platform? Yeah? Look, I had someone
Speaker 1: recently try to cut one little sentence out of the
Speaker 1: show out of context and take it. Management had a meeting.
Speaker 1: It's serious, and in the end nothing came of it.
Speaker 1: But here's what really happens, and it's someone who's been
Speaker 1: an advertising executive work with the big agencies in the past.
Speaker 1: From a broadcast perspective as well, advertisers go where the
Speaker 1: market is, and for example, Conservative Talk, my show is oversold,
Speaker 1: my channel is oversold. On serious you know, advertisers are
Speaker 1: waiting to get in, so for a while they may
Speaker 1: target but the company, the service they're interested in business
Speaker 1: And after a while, when you look at all these
Speaker 1: called boycotts or targeting. While some cave in, the truth
Speaker 1: is after a while they come back and we've let
Speaker 1: them think and given them too much power by letting
Speaker 1: them think that while they're tweeting about it's actually having
Speaker 1: an effect. Is the guy that's making the widget selling
Speaker 1: you a car or providing a service, you know what,
Speaker 1: They care about your business and if they don't have
Speaker 1: your business, they die. So the point is, do good
Speaker 1: work and have a marget sate that they can't try
Speaker 1: to target your show and take you off here because
Speaker 1: it feels as though what a out of your targeting
Speaker 1: that we're seeing even CNN going on and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to take Fox News, Max and one American
Speaker 1: news network off the air. We're seeing that there's a
Speaker 1: real targeting of conservative voices. Now that this this is
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest times I think in American history
Speaker 1: where they want to silence more conservatives versus having more opinion.
Speaker 1: They want less. They just want their their echo chamber,
Speaker 1: just like with Twitter and them silence and President Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: So that's that's really interesting. And speaking of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: where does the party go? The Republican Party go post Trump?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, if it's post Trump, I don't know
Speaker 1: what form that takes, Giano, but probably after this kind
Speaker 1: of decompression period post presidency, we'll see whether the president
Speaker 1: comes out. He's a big figure in the party and
Speaker 1: the movement in American I think he's beyond the party.
Speaker 1: I think there's a combination of you know, there are
Speaker 1: issues and Republicans that don't adhere to Republican principles and
Speaker 1: they need to be dealt with within the party structure
Speaker 1: and by the voting base who decides to put them
Speaker 1: in office or take them out. And I think Trump
Speaker 1: can work also from the outside, uh, you know, with
Speaker 1: effective activism and I've kind of coined my own not
Speaker 1: so clever phrase, which is effectivism. I think he can
Speaker 1: build provide a counter to the media if he chooses.
Speaker 1: He's got the money to do it. He's a billionaire
Speaker 1: ex president, he was a billionaire going in. He's actually
Speaker 1: a politician because he is a politician now too, who
Speaker 1: didn't need to gain money from being in Washington, and
Speaker 1: he understands the ability to deploy money and finance to
Speaker 1: have an effect. You have a great point there, and
Speaker 1: I've been wondering myself what will President Trump do next?
Speaker 1: And there's been talk of a Patriot Party, there's been
Speaker 1: talk ahead it Lord Trump on the podcast and she
Speaker 1: was saying that there was possibly a chance that they
Speaker 1: may do a Trump TV. She said that that that
Speaker 1: would be interesting. And now we see a lot of
Speaker 1: folks who are hungry, even more hungry for Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: voice because he's been silenced on social media, so people
Speaker 1: really want to hear from him. Now, what do you
Speaker 1: think he may do? Will there be a Patriot Party?
Speaker 1: Will there be a Trump TV? Have you heard anything? Look,
Speaker 1: there have been some conversations between a group, you know,
Speaker 1: a group of us, are a number of us about
Speaker 1: what comes next. I can't say that I know the answer,
Speaker 1: and you know I wouldn't make one up because that's
Speaker 1: not how honest people do it. But I can tell
Speaker 1: you that there will be efforts. We've seen some packs shifting.
Speaker 1: That builds the foundation. If you're going to build a
Speaker 1: third party, you need to build an infrastructure staff and
Speaker 1: you get to get set up actions for ballot access
Speaker 1: during races. So it's a big it's a big project.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say you can work within and without,
Speaker 1: you need outside. I believe in more parties. I'd never
Speaker 1: liked the firm two party system, and I'd like to
Speaker 1: see more growth and a real challenge to provide a
Speaker 1: conservative uh effort, because conservatism is a movement. Republican is
Speaker 1: the party to fix the party and Rework and if
Speaker 1: you think about Lincoln and what happened Lincoln re you know,
Speaker 1: rebuilt the party. The old party has gone, the new
Speaker 1: Republican Party was born, and we're in that moment again.
Speaker 1: We just can't predict easily how it will turn out.
Speaker 1: So if there is a Patriot Party, would you join it?
Speaker 1: About to see what it looks like? This is the
Speaker 1: one answer I I don't know how. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of silence. It's an honest answer. I've been a
Speaker 1: Republican since I was eighteen years old. Actually before that,
Speaker 1: I knew my values. But if this is what it takes,
Speaker 1: because I do believe in the Republican platform, if if,
Speaker 1: if there again there are good people there, We'll have
Speaker 1: to see what it shakes. That's so I can't give
Speaker 1: you an answer because I don't know what it looks like.
Speaker 1: I have two more questions for you. First, why are
Speaker 1: you a conservative? Values? Family values? Fiscal values, national security, sovereignty,
Speaker 1: the Constitution, and the promise in our Declaration of independence.
Speaker 1: That's how I made my first decision, and uh, I'm
Speaker 1: still there. Final question. On your website web media dot com,
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the homepage, you write the definition
Speaker 1: of conservatism according to memory Webster, and then below that
Speaker 1: there's a quote by you trust in the authority. What
Speaker 1: does that quote mean and why it's trust so important?
Speaker 1: How does that trust relate to conservatism When it comes
Speaker 1: to truth and trust, it's actually truth is the authority. Uh.
Speaker 1: When you find what is real, regardless of whether you
Speaker 1: agree with it or not, or it's a preference or not,
Speaker 1: it's simply is gravity is a truth. It may differ
Speaker 1: on the moon or on the Earth and its force,
Speaker 1: but it is the truth. And it's not that everything
Speaker 1: comes to that absolute truth. It may vary again here
Speaker 1: versus the moon when it comes to gravity, but it
Speaker 1: still exists. We have to find our way to those
Speaker 1: things and understand that part of truth is that there
Speaker 1: will always be differences between people, but those differences have
Speaker 1: more what we have more in common than we have differences.
Speaker 1: And that's what I believe in in this country. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and thank you for having this conversation with me.
Speaker 1: I'm currently in Dubai and I know you're in Miami,
Speaker 1: so I truly appreciate it, and I appreciate the time
Speaker 1: difference even more because it's before we go. Can you
Speaker 1: tell everybody where they can find you, your shows, your
Speaker 1: social media handles, in any big projects you have coming up.
Speaker 1: That's where I get to play Giano called well when
Speaker 1: he comes on my show. The man knows how to read. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Dot com is where you can go to really find
Speaker 1: out about me. Webb with two bees, as I like
Speaker 1: to say, serious excent Patriot Monday to Friday, nine am,
Speaker 1: two New in the Eastern Fox News, Fox Nation and
Speaker 1: if you just google me David Webb. David Webb, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on this show, and thank you for a
Speaker 1: really great interview. I appreciate you. Always look forward to
Speaker 1: your insights and you go beyond the surface of the
Speaker 1: news of the day, and um, certainly that historical perspective
Speaker 1: matters so much. And I really really appreciate what you
Speaker 1: mean to the conservative movement because I wouldn't be where
Speaker 1: I am today if it wasn't for people like you
Speaker 1: who blazed the trail where before I came along said
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much my friend David Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Geeto. You have yourself a great day and
Speaker 1: a great trip for that matter, I appreciate it. Thank you.
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