1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden plans to legalize eleven million illegal immigrants, the 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: left shop and his daggers to persecute Trump and his 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: support is long after he leaves office, and will black 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Americans regret voting for the new president. This is out 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Allowed with Gianno called Black. Welcome back to Autllow with 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Gianno called Well. I have to tell you that I'm 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: so excited for today's show. My guest is the one 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: and only David Webb. As I'm sure many of you know, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: David hosts The David Webb Show at Daily Talk Radio 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: show in series x M Patriot. He also hosts reality 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Check with David Webb on Fox Nation and as a 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Fox News contributor. Plus, David is a writer for The Hill. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: A proud conservative, David is unafraid to say what he 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: thinks and it is one of America's most prominent political commentators. Today, 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: we're going to discuss Trump, Biden, immigration, the black vote, 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: and so much more. Buckle up and let's go, David. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Ally with Gianno called Well, thank you so 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: much for coming on, my friend. Anytime. Let's die absolutely so. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Last time I saw you, we were having some nice 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: cigars and a drink of it, your fancy, fancy place. 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: Howe you been since then? That was about a week ago. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: I'm still you know, celebrating life. Living life gets tough 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: times right for a lot of people out there. When 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: I tell them they should try to do their best, 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: my friend, it's uh, it's about enjoying what you have 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: and making the most of what you have, no matter 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: what it is or where you are. Absolutely I agree 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: with that. And the big news, as we know is 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was wanted as the forty six president of 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: the United States. His speech at the inauguration focused on 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: the theme of national unity, but he also spoke of 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: the rise of political extremism, and a lot of folks 33 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: considered him to be attacking Trump supporters again, folks who 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: just wanted the best for their country. They wanted their 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: taxes low, They wanted to ensure that the country was 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: on the right track, and it was American first priorities. 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: What do you take from that is speech didn't seem 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: that unified to me. What did you think? I mean? 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: This is Joe Biden. This is not new to this campaign. 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: I've been watching his history for decades now. Within the 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: first two minutes or so of his inauguration speech, which 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: I carried on my show, he used the term white supremacist, 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: very reminiscent of his launch of his campaign from Charlottesville, Virginia. 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: This is Biden that has played the race baiting game 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: over the years. He's a professional politician, part of the 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: DC cesspool, and he's wanted to be president since June 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: when he first filed. So he played to his bass. 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: He continues to play to his base. And you can't 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: claim you want unity and then go out and go 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: after some seventy five million people who voted for your opponent. 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: It just doesn't add up. No, it doesn't. And the 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: fact that his administration continues to not really have a 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: true own statement on impeachment outside of well, the Senate 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: can do business in terms of our priorities and also 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: try the president. I mean, that's not really a unified message, 56 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: and I think most people would agree with that sentiment. 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break now and continue the conversation 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: in the moment. The Biden policy, they're saying that there's 59 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: going to be legalization of eleven million and legal immigrants 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: currently living in America, and that number has been something 61 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: that has been mentioned for years. We at least can 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: as safely assume that the number is way larger than 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: eleven million. And Joe Biden on this first day is 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: talking about giving a pathway the citizenship to these individuals. Um, 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: what is your take on giving citizenship to eleven million 66 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: people who didn't come through the front door clearly of 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm all for the Dreamers having a pathway 68 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: to citizenship. They came here at no fault of their own. 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: But there's other folks that are coming in trying to 70 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: get be a part of this eleven million, which we 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: know is much more than that. What's your take on that? Well, 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, let's start with the principle of immigration, which 73 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: is designed to be selective, not necessarily fair. You select 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: who you want to allow entry into the country legally. 75 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: I've been covering the border since nine nineteen, so I've 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: seen this play and you know, they would have us 77 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: believe that eleven million people, which is a number that 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: is now over a decade old, did not have davies, 79 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: did not produced, did not bringing more illegals that have 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: been crossing the border, as you and I have in 81 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: this conversation or overstay in their visas. Biden said something 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: that's key there, and I have been telling this to 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: both call it minority groups and illegal aliens in this 84 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: country and others that want all these proposals by the Democrats. 85 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: He said, eight years. So if there's a pathway to 86 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: citizenship over eight years, tell me where a current president 87 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: Biden will be in eight years, and how do you 88 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: get your promise kept. It's a deflection in the lie. 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: It's a wedge issue that allows us to go on 90 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: and then at the same time balkanize the country with 91 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: more migrants. They're over ten thousand by some reports, gathering 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: in multiple caravan south of the border. If they make 93 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: it through the Dairy and Gap to the Mexico border 94 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: on the south, security, health issues, health issues with the 95 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: COVID pandemic, other things will come into play. How does 96 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: that actually work? The truth is he can destroy our 97 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: infrastructure and they can be fund or not fully fund 98 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: ice in their operations to secure the country. That will 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: have a great effect on their ability to do their jobs. 100 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: And then what happens when they come in. You have 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: wage suppression, You have an oversupply of labor for jobs 102 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: that Americans need. What happens when you have an oversupply 103 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: of labor. Now we have another problem. So Biden's promise is, 104 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: like his political career, are words and the actions don't 105 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: often follow the way he's promised. What's kind of interesting 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: about this is we were told from a lot of 107 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: folks in the Democratic Party that Joe Biden would govern 108 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: from the middle, he would be a center left president, 109 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: and we're already seeing that that isn't true. It I 110 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of conservatives feel is though, this is 111 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: a president who really attacked the American norms that we've 112 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: gotten used to over a decade after decade, do you 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: feel any reason to be optimistic about his administration whatsoever. 114 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you one chance for Joe Biden that I 115 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: see right now, and who knows, there could be others. 116 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: And it's only in the Middle East where stabilization after 117 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: the abram Accords and now six total deals of recognition 118 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: of Israel economic trade, the Bosnian Serbian Economic Trade Agreement, 119 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: which actually obviously comes out of Eastern Europe with Israel 120 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: so and and other nations recognizing that stability. And if 121 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: you were to leave that alone, people on both sides 122 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: of those equations Muslim or Jew or otherwise have stability. 123 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: But when you look at Biden's promises, the taxpayers will 124 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: pay the price Giano when you rejoined the rejoin the 125 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: Parish Climate Accords America is roughly thirty to thirty five 126 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: percent of the funding for that. What was really upset 127 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: into them was just like the U n we pay 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: the price. Just like NATO, we pay the price while 129 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: they get the benefit, which the world doesn't get because 130 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: China doesn't follow the accords. Burning a fibrous material would 131 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: for fuel fire and more in Africa is also counterintuitive. 132 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: So instead of solving the issues, they're just creating a 133 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: sham of an approach on an issue that they actually 134 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: don't have a real solution for, which is how we work, 135 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: live and exist and grow a better environment around the 136 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Now that's a really great point. Now. I find it 137 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to be interesting that on day one and off, as 138 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Biden signed and executive or there halting the National Emergency 139 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Declaration that allowed Donald Trump to use additional funds to 140 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: build a border wall, the order also pauses construction projects 141 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: into further review. What do you think of Biden stopping 142 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: construction on the border wall, which of course was one 143 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: of Trump's key priorities. That one really troubles me, and 144 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: it should Americans. We know what we catch, what we 145 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: interdict in various ways along the southern border. For those 146 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: of you who have never been to the southern border, 147 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: it is a hell hole along the Rio Grand and 148 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: other areas. It is a nightmare from a garbage trash 149 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: disposal and human traffic in issue. So there's so many 150 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: issues there. The walls funnel people into areas that are 151 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: trying to cross illegally, so we can interdict them if 152 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: they were too even leave it where it is and 153 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: not take action. Remember what I said earlier about reducing 154 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: the on and taking away their capability, reducing the beds, 155 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: all the things they can do, reducing the process in 156 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: the judicial system. Then what we'll see is a greater 157 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: danger not just along the border, but they will spread 158 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: into many states, not just the more liberal states, and 159 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: into the sectors of the economy like construction, service industry, 160 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: and agriculture and more. But these are the areas that 161 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: will pay the price. So while people want to just 162 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: focus on the border, and I'm glad you asked the 163 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: question there, you've got to take that issue and go 164 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: much broader and bring it home to your main street 165 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: in your community to make it real for people. In 166 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: other words, well, it is very real for them. For example, 167 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: states that spend billions of dollars on education, billions of 168 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: dollars on healthcare are taking that out of the taxpayer dollars. 169 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: Then you add English as the second language. People come 170 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: from non traditional or non existent school systems to go 171 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: into these systems there, or you have to hire additional teachers, 172 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: special teachers. They're taking resources away from the Americans who 173 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: are illegally, whether they came here illegally or were born 174 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: here as citizens. You're taking resources away from their children. 175 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: You're taking resources away from their community hospitals, which, by 176 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: the way, when you break that apart, it's not the 177 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: really nice hospitals in the really nice areas of America 178 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: that typically get the elites pulling up in their expensive 179 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: cars for their treatments. It's community hospitals and localized state 180 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: run hospitals that bear the brunt of this. And who 181 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: do they serve, typically the underserved or lower economic areas 182 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: of our nation. So who pays the price? Absolutely. Now, 183 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: my point was, especially when it comes to younger people, 184 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily see those things that may impact business owners. 185 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: I think back, think back to my grandfather, who small 186 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: business owner plumber construction, who often talked about in Chicago 187 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: how there was illegal immigrants taking opportunities. They would underbid 188 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: and undercut him because they were using illegal help for him. 189 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: It was a very real topic of discussion. It was 190 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: something that impacted his business and impacted the way that 191 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: he earned money. For other people on the street day 192 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: to day, they may not necessarily see it, That's what 193 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: I was pointing out there. So speaking of is as 194 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the point of immigration, Conservatives tend to comprehensive immigration plans 195 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: and prefer tackling the issue piece by piece, usually beginning 196 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: with border security. Do you agree with that approach? I 197 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: agree with that approach is part of the starting point, Gianna. 198 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: But we need to go further with this, not just 199 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: border security, but we need a proper functioning system of 200 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: detention and processing with immigration courts, add and judges. The 201 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: Trump administration thought that battling were stopped by the way 202 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: by some Republicans who did not want to improve that. 203 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: So things have to work together, and to your point, 204 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: by the way, breaking it real for people you know, 205 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: the wage suppression issue is a big issue for young people. 206 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: Starter jobs typically come where and starting positions and companies 207 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: at every level or locally in your community. So if 208 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: the conservative approach is going to address this, we've got 209 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: to address it from the border, but we've got to 210 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: come down the main street into those neighborhoods and find 211 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: ways to enforce and remove, not to mention the criminal 212 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: component of what happens when you have more poverty and 213 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: lower earnings which are then either supplemented by taxpayer dollars 214 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: or embedded and unfortunately in a negative way, uh increased 215 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: crime in communities. And I understand that piece. What is 216 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: the way, the right way of dealing with illegal immigrants 217 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: currently living in the US. Would you be okay with 218 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: putting them on the pathway a citizenship after the border 219 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: secured in an effective, demonstrable way, or should we consider 220 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: an alternative plan because we probably can't put out a 221 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: level million people, we can send them home. Clearly, what 222 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: is the right way of approaching this. It's not a 223 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: path to citizenship. There are steps along the way, and 224 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: they might be a consideration for limited amounts of legal 225 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: lawful presence, which is actually the proper term for that. 226 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: I've worked on this issue for years, testified on this issue, 227 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: and worked with groups that have returned home projects. The 228 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,359 Speaker 1: federal government actually returns to legal aliens. We need enforcement, 229 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: and I know it's not the answer people want to 230 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: hear at times. And you will, You're right, you won't removal, 231 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: you won't go in and weed out what is actually 232 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: a higher number, uh probably closer to twenty how the 233 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: high twenty millions or close to thirty million people. But 234 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: you have more enforcement, more return and if you're removed, 235 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: because there are parts of the population. Look, there are 236 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: people looking for desperate looking desperately for help. They've come 237 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: here for a reason. But unfortunately the law is still 238 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: the law, and the law had to be enforced. It's 239 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: not inhuman because it's inhuman to someone if they're paying 240 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: the price for someone else's benefits. So when an American 241 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: loses and an illegal alien gains, that's not in that 242 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: if you know, that is wrong as well. So we 243 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: do have to return those that we catch. We do 244 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: have to punish the employers to hire illegal aliens. And 245 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: I realize that's a lot of businesses that are small 246 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: in some cases and construction sectors and others. But if 247 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: you hire someone illegally, you're part of the problem. That's 248 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: really interesting. I want to pick up through there in 249 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: the moment, but first let's get a quick break now 250 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: the side subject of the Dreamers. Why do you think 251 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Democrats didn't agree to Trump's deal of protecting the Dreams 252 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: in exchange for enhanced bord of security Because it's a 253 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: wedge issue. Democrats have used illegal immigration as a wedge 254 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: issue against the right for years, and I have asked 255 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: this question that as President Trump, I know, did we 256 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: and I talked about this in person when he looked 257 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: at the Democrats And I've looked at them for years 258 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: and said, you know, where's the solution that you actually 259 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: delivered In the Obama years when they had the super majorities, 260 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: they could have given comprehensive immigration reform on one page 261 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: with a swipe of a pen. They didn't. The Dreamers 262 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: are a wedge issue, and it's an effective wedge issue 263 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: because there's not a good solution that will satisfy the 264 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: more art and or more strident conservative days. And you 265 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: and I think we're closer to the reality of this 266 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: is that we can find a path way, the lawful 267 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: presence absent citizenship is my belief because it's no fault 268 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: of their own. But this is the life they've known, 269 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: and there's not a path to return home for them. 270 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: They were not you know, they were just too young 271 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: and brought here against their will in many cases, or 272 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: brought here by their parents willfully. So let's find that path. 273 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: But that wedge issue is more important to the Democrats, 274 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: so they want to to use it to run uh 275 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: and win elections. And certainly, if you're gonna illegalize, you're 276 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna give a pathway to citizenship to as you mentioned, 277 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: just maybe twenty million, maybe thirty million people, then you 278 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: have a new base of democratic, potentially democratic voters that 279 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: will support you. And we know that that's a strong 280 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: possibility because if you look at Florida, you see that 281 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: there are some folks that have been who were really 282 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: rescued by Republican president who feel loyal to the Republican party. 283 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: So that's a possibility there isn't it? Yeah, it is. 284 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: And numbers matter here, you know, when you look at 285 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: the black versus Latino population read large in America, Blacks 286 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: represent a little undercent of the population Hispanics seventeen percent 287 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: and growing at a faster birth rate, and in a 288 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: blended community, which is natural communities, blend people live communally, 289 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: illegally or legally. As you grow that base, you retain 290 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: a percentage of that base. This is the hardcore world 291 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: of politics that I've been, you know, unfortunately, unfortunately de 292 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: and in for decades now. So if you retain a 293 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: number of that base, you keep your power while delivering nothing. 294 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: And conversely, they saw it to your point, and I've 295 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: been Deliberty City, Liberty Square for Drinko Wilson's district, other 296 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: areas I work, My wife and I are heavily involved 297 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: in some of these areas where these black voters were saying, 298 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: hang on a second. Trump got us some solutions, and 299 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: I can tell you that bothers the Democrats, so they 300 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: need to pivot to the next block to bring them in. 301 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: Talking about black support, those African Americans who chose to 302 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: support Joe Biden, and he promised that he was going 303 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: to deliver all kind of positive policy changes on day 304 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: one of his administration, and that one of his administration 305 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: has already happened, and we've not seen that our African 306 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: Americans getting played once again by Democrats who run for 307 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: office with their support and never seemingly do anything for 308 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: African Americans like this, this is It just boggles the mind. 309 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: How do you team you to vote for a group 310 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: of people who never deliver for you? Like I just 311 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: don't understand it. Well, neither do I sometimes, But I've 312 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: been working at this for years. It's going away little 313 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: by little, uh And I think that's a good thing. 314 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: But it hasn't gone away enough from the Democrat vote. 315 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: And it's not even about becoming a Republican give you back. 316 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: People should give themselves a choice, you know, make your 317 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: vote worth something. If you give your unyielding loyalty to 318 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: one party, they owe you nothing. They've got you. And 319 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: that's the istory of Blacks and Democrats when their freedoms 320 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: came from Republican starting with President Lincoln and then working 321 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: forward through civil rights, through the battle for desegregation and 322 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: voting rights. So Blacks need to look economically, look at 323 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: what policies, conservative fiscal policies, business policies, capitalism, free market competition, 324 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: and economics is what lifts communities out of poverty. Rather 325 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: than keeping you bound to the government dime. And let 326 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: me give you an example. Poss Off and Warnock in 327 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: Georgia promised two thousand dollars to Democrat Baseballton County, Cobb 328 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: County and others during the run to win the Senate, 329 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: and now they're getting four hundred hundred dollars from Joe 330 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: Biden and those same senators. Well, you just lost six 331 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: hundred of your two thousand, you're getting fourteen hundred. If 332 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: that's not an example of hey, vote for me, I'll 333 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: give you this, but I'm giving you less. I don't 334 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: know what is or nothing at all. And what really 335 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: upsets me about this whole thing. You saw people like 336 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Maxine Waters who said if if black folks vote for Trump, 337 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: she would basically disown them. She was talking about black men, 338 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: which we know that Donald Trump got a large supporter 339 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: base there wounded a lot of Republicans didn't even think 340 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: was possible. And then we know that Donald Trump got 341 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: the largest share of African American votes, or rather minority 342 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: votes than any Republican and what almost modern history pretty 343 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: much for the most part. So we saw the policy 344 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: really resonated and it was you know, what do you 345 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: have to lose this is what I can offer you, 346 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: and this is what the other side has done for 347 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: your vote. Nothing. So it's one thing that is It's 348 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: something that I stick on because it really disappoints me 349 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: and upset to me when I see a lot of 350 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: people kind of chucking and driving. If you will, I'm 351 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: talking about these Democrat politicians that will not do anything 352 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: for our community but talk we I say, were blocks 353 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: in America. The history of blocks in this country has 354 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: been one of survival in very tough circumstances pre Civil rights, 355 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: post civil rights, and what has helped family, god, community, 356 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: building a business, owning what you know, using what's around 357 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: you to better yourself. We gave that up for the 358 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: government to be the provider of needs and determine what 359 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: our wants are. To go back to that independence and 360 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: use that independence to go to school, get a trade, 361 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: get a degree, or go to work, whichever way you 362 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: do it, and and own what you know, grow with 363 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: what you know. They were millionaires, were billionaires, are the 364 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: highest percentage of millionaires of any country in the world. 365 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: The wealth capital is there, and frankly, go back and 366 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: reinvest in your communities and help others. I go back 367 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: and work in some of these cities like New York 368 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: to help others get an education. You don't have to 369 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: save the world, do the simple things that let blacks 370 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: know they have a choice because education is a key 371 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: component to that, and you will see the percentages rise. 372 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: Now I agree with that. I think representation matters in 373 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: the sense that people like you and me ship go 374 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: into these communities and mentor because one thing that democrats 375 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: are very skilled it is saying, hey, you, because you're black, 376 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: you don't have the ability, you don't have the resources, 377 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to know how, you don't have the 378 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: talent to do X, Y and Z because the man 379 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: is holding you back. And that's really discouraging to me 380 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: because as I was growing up on the South Side 381 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: of Chicago, those are the things that I often heard. 382 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: So it made me feel as though I wasn't empowered 383 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: to move about my life and create a level of 384 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: success that many people in my community have never seen 385 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: because of what was told day after day. So these 386 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: is really like a programming that goes on which makes 387 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: you feel like you're inferior because of your color. And 388 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: it's so it disenfranchises people with disenfranchises because the people 389 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: every day, and it's so sad that in we're still 390 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: in that particular position. You know, think about this, Giano. 391 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: When the man is telling you that the man is 392 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: not helping you and you haven't gotten anything for it 393 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: of any real value, Come on, when do you stop 394 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: believing them? It's it's not just the soft bigotry of 395 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: low expectations, it's a very hard bigotry of we're not 396 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: giving you anything to give yourself control, give you control 397 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: of your life. That is a bigotry that is institutionalized 398 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: by the Democrats. I absolutely agree with that. Let's dig 399 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: into that further after a quick break. I want to 400 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: bring this conversation back for a moment to where we begin. 401 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: Biden a national unity. Throughout his presidential campaign, Biden portrayed 402 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: himself as a moderate savior who would unify us, the 403 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: man who can bring Americans together. But we know that 404 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: Trump and his supporters wanted tougher immigration laws, and Biden's 405 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: team doesn't seem interested in compromising at all. So how 406 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: hopeful are you that President Biden will help unify the country. 407 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm really not, And that's tragic because the success of 408 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: America is what I want, regardless of who's in the 409 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: White House. I think, contrary to the or counter to 410 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: the left wing poll for Joe Biden, who will play 411 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: any card to any group just to keep himself where 412 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: he is, uh, the American people will fight back out 413 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: of just sheer need. Our unity is not down to 414 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: a president. And this is something that I think we 415 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: need to change. I amemeric, I know we need to change. 416 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: Our unity is bound to our common needs, are common 417 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: goals outside of party. And I know it sounds erudite 418 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: for some and almost pollyannish for others, But how have 419 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: we been successful in communities which then become the communities 420 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: within a larger community of a nation. It's when we 421 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: work better together. If you're working in your neighborhoods, if 422 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: you're helping to work, to educate your kids, to make 423 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: sure your streets are safe, to work with law enforcement, 424 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: to you know, to do what you can with what 425 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: you have. Think about that A force multiplier on that 426 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: that's bigger than any politician. And yes, they can affect us. Packs, policies, culture, 427 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, consent decrees, failures in many way can affect us. 428 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: But we really are this country. DC was empty for 429 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: the inauguration. It's not the center of America, it's the capital. 430 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: The center of America is all across this country. I 431 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: think we're we are today and what our politics are 432 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: and with the media's role in it is. And I'm 433 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: very interested in your thoughts because I think a lot 434 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: of a lot of folks in the media have demonized 435 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: all Trump supporters evil, and I want to know from 436 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: New House and conservatives respond to leftists who say they 437 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: want the Republican Party to burn down and they're making 438 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: lists of Trump supporters for political retribution. We've seen prominent 439 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: journalists and Democrats engaging in this behavior. What should conservatives 440 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: due to respond to this? For one, respond honestly, Okay, 441 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: we have made our mistakes on the right, so let's 442 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: let's be honest with the American people. Get them on 443 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: our side again. Back to that eleven million plus that 444 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: voted for not just Donald Trump, but for Republicans organst 445 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: Biden in whatever way however they cast their vote, they 446 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: chose a path for America. Focus on that, go into 447 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: these communities and stay there. The media, pundits, the social 448 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: media influencers and others, they're not going to change because 449 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: there's no real way to counter them. So turn off 450 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: the person on TV. Turned to the community, the local 451 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: political communities, local action groups, the local foundations, turned to 452 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: your church members, turned to your your co workers at work, 453 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: talked about your common ideals, and then keep working from there. 454 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: Make sure your kids are working together, they get to 455 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: know each other so they can't be abused by the 456 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: wrong information. We we want to be conservatives focused locally 457 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: and then let that expand, and then we need support 458 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: of people who will come in honestly on the those 459 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: the platforms, like you or me. You know, we're Frankly, 460 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: I love the fact that we consider and have a discussion, 461 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: and you and I are not afraid to go out 462 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: publicly and help multiply that message. Yeah yeah, And I 463 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: like your point in terms of making sure your kids 464 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: aren't getting the wrong information. And truthfully speaking, I'm not 465 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: one who I don't have any children, I'm not married 466 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I would tell my kids, hey, 467 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: make your own decisions, whether it be on the right 468 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: or left. But here are the examples of what the 469 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: left gets you, and this is what you get on 470 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: the right. But you make your own choice and decision. 471 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: So I I really appreciate that point. Now this is something. 472 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Is you the series XM radio show host and you've 473 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: been involved in media for decades even I really want 474 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this. What about those on 475 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: the left who are targeting the sponsors of right wing host? 476 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: What's your conservatives doing? Respond? How people they tried to 477 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: shut down your show at all? Have anyone did that? 478 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: I know that you're a very vocal voice and you 479 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: amplified and listened to by millions of people. Have you 480 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: seen this on your platform? Yeah? Look, I had someone 481 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: recently try to cut one little sentence out of the 482 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: show out of context and take it. Management had a meeting. 483 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: It's serious, and in the end nothing came of it. 484 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: But here's what really happens, and it's someone who's been 485 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: an advertising executive work with the big agencies in the past. 486 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: From a broadcast perspective as well, advertisers go where the 487 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: market is, and for example, Conservative Talk, my show is oversold, 488 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: my channel is oversold. On serious you know, advertisers are 489 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: waiting to get in, so for a while they may 490 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: target but the company, the service they're interested in business 491 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: And after a while, when you look at all these 492 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: called boycotts or targeting. While some cave in, the truth 493 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: is after a while they come back and we've let 494 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: them think and given them too much power by letting 495 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: them think that while they're tweeting about it's actually having 496 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: an effect. Is the guy that's making the widget selling 497 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: you a car or providing a service, you know what, 498 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: They care about your business and if they don't have 499 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: your business, they die. So the point is, do good 500 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: work and have a marget sate that they can't try 501 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: to target your show and take you off here because 502 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: it feels as though what a out of your targeting 503 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: that we're seeing even CNN going on and saying, hey, 504 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: we want to take Fox News, Max and one American 505 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: news network off the air. We're seeing that there's a 506 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: real targeting of conservative voices. Now that this this is 507 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: one of the weirdest times I think in American history 508 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: where they want to silence more conservatives versus having more opinion. 509 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: They want less. They just want their their echo chamber, 510 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: just like with Twitter and them silence and President Donald Trump. 511 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: So that's that's really interesting. And speaking of Donald Trump, 512 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: where does the party go? The Republican Party go post Trump? 513 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, if it's post Trump, I don't know 514 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: what form that takes, Giano, but probably after this kind 515 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: of decompression period post presidency, we'll see whether the president 516 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: comes out. He's a big figure in the party and 517 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: the movement in American I think he's beyond the party. 518 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a combination of you know, there are 519 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: issues and Republicans that don't adhere to Republican principles and 520 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: they need to be dealt with within the party structure 521 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: and by the voting base who decides to put them 522 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: in office or take them out. And I think Trump 523 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: can work also from the outside, uh, you know, with 524 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: effective activism and I've kind of coined my own not 525 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: so clever phrase, which is effectivism. I think he can 526 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: build provide a counter to the media if he chooses. 527 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: He's got the money to do it. He's a billionaire 528 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: ex president, he was a billionaire going in. He's actually 529 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: a politician because he is a politician now too, who 530 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: didn't need to gain money from being in Washington, and 531 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: he understands the ability to deploy money and finance to 532 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: have an effect. You have a great point there, and 533 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: I've been wondering myself what will President Trump do next? 534 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: And there's been talk of a Patriot Party, there's been 535 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: talk ahead it Lord Trump on the podcast and she 536 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: was saying that there was possibly a chance that they 537 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: may do a Trump TV. She said that that that 538 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: would be interesting. And now we see a lot of 539 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: folks who are hungry, even more hungry for Donald Trump's 540 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: voice because he's been silenced on social media, so people 541 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: really want to hear from him. Now, what do you 542 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: think he may do? Will there be a Patriot Party? 543 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: Will there be a Trump TV? Have you heard anything? Look, 544 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: there have been some conversations between a group, you know, 545 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: a group of us, are a number of us about 546 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: what comes next. I can't say that I know the answer, 547 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: and you know I wouldn't make one up because that's 548 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: not how honest people do it. But I can tell 549 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: you that there will be efforts. We've seen some packs shifting. 550 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: That builds the foundation. If you're going to build a 551 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: third party, you need to build an infrastructure staff and 552 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: you get to get set up actions for ballot access 553 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: during races. So it's a big it's a big project. 554 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: And that's why I say you can work within and without, 555 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: you need outside. I believe in more parties. I'd never 556 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: liked the firm two party system, and I'd like to 557 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: see more growth and a real challenge to provide a 558 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: conservative uh effort, because conservatism is a movement. Republican is 559 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: the party to fix the party and Rework and if 560 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: you think about Lincoln and what happened Lincoln re you know, 561 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: rebuilt the party. The old party has gone, the new 562 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: Republican Party was born, and we're in that moment again. 563 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: We just can't predict easily how it will turn out. 564 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: So if there is a Patriot Party, would you join it? 565 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: About to see what it looks like? This is the 566 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: one answer I I don't know how. It was a 567 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: lot of silence. It's an honest answer. I've been a 568 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: Republican since I was eighteen years old. Actually before that, 569 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: I knew my values. But if this is what it takes, 570 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: because I do believe in the Republican platform, if if, 571 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: if there again there are good people there, We'll have 572 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: to see what it shakes. That's so I can't give 573 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: you an answer because I don't know what it looks like. 574 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: I have two more questions for you. First, why are 575 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: you a conservative? Values? Family values? Fiscal values, national security, sovereignty, 576 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: the Constitution, and the promise in our Declaration of independence. 577 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: That's how I made my first decision, and uh, I'm 578 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: still there. Final question. On your website web media dot com, 579 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the homepage, you write the definition 580 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: of conservatism according to memory Webster, and then below that 581 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: there's a quote by you trust in the authority. What 582 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: does that quote mean and why it's trust so important? 583 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: How does that trust relate to conservatism When it comes 584 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: to truth and trust, it's actually truth is the authority. Uh. 585 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: When you find what is real, regardless of whether you 586 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: agree with it or not, or it's a preference or not, 587 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: it's simply is gravity is a truth. It may differ 588 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: on the moon or on the Earth and its force, 589 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: but it is the truth. And it's not that everything 590 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: comes to that absolute truth. It may vary again here 591 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: versus the moon when it comes to gravity, but it 592 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: still exists. We have to find our way to those 593 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: things and understand that part of truth is that there 594 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: will always be differences between people, but those differences have 595 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: more what we have more in common than we have differences. 596 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: And that's what I believe in in this country. I 597 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: appreciate that, and thank you for having this conversation with me. 598 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm currently in Dubai and I know you're in Miami, 599 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: so I truly appreciate it, and I appreciate the time 600 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: difference even more because it's before we go. Can you 601 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: tell everybody where they can find you, your shows, your 602 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: social media handles, in any big projects you have coming up. 603 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: That's where I get to play Giano called well when 604 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: he comes on my show. The man knows how to read. Yeah. 605 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: Dot com is where you can go to really find 606 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: out about me. Webb with two bees, as I like 607 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: to say, serious excent Patriot Monday to Friday, nine am, 608 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: two New in the Eastern Fox News, Fox Nation and 609 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: if you just google me David Webb. David Webb, thanks 610 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: for coming on this show, and thank you for a 611 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: really great interview. I appreciate you. Always look forward to 612 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: your insights and you go beyond the surface of the 613 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: news of the day, and um, certainly that historical perspective 614 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: matters so much. And I really really appreciate what you 615 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: mean to the conservative movement because I wouldn't be where 616 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: I am today if it wasn't for people like you 617 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: who blazed the trail where before I came along said 618 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much my friend David Well, 619 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: thank you, Geeto. You have yourself a great day and 620 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: a great trip for that matter, I appreciate it. Thank you. 621 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: Thanks to David Webb for a great interview. If you're 622 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: enjoying the show, please leave us a review. Rate us 623 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: with five stars on Apple Podcast. If you have any 624 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: questions for me, please email me at out loud at 625 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: Gingles Street sixty dot com and I'll trying to answer 626 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: them in our future episodes. You can also find me 627 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook at Giano Caldwell. 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