1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why did a nineteen year 2 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: old girl have to die? Yeah, most of us worked 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: our way through college. I know in law school, I 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: had three jobs, and one of those jobs was at 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: a sandwich shop and it was situated in a big 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: parking lot in an L shaped strip center. And the 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: sandwich shop was on the very end of the strip center. 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: And every other store in that strip center would close 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: around six pm, but the sandwich shop where I worked 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: stayed open until eleven. And I remember sitting there. Everything 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: outside was dark, and I would be sitting there all 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: alone with the lights on in this sandwich shop, and 13 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: I remember hating being there all alone, and there would be, 14 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, an hour or two when no one would 15 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: come through. It's like you're sitting duck. I'm talking, of course, 16 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: about nineteen year old Krista Crystal Nieves, just a beautiful 17 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: nineteen year old girl. She had told her mom that 18 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: she did not like working alone at night. But who 19 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: would have ever believed that someone would come along and 20 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: kill her? I mean to see, Grace, this is Cribe Stories. 21 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation 22 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: and Series X one eleven. First of all, take a 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: listen to our friends at CBS two. As the rain 24 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: trickled down, The family of nineteen year old Crystal by 25 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: ron Nieves gathered outside the Burger King where she was 26 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: killed to leave flowers in her honor and to pray 27 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: for justice. Police have released these images of the robbery 28 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: that took place just before one Sunday morning at the 29 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: Burger King on East one hundred and sixteenth Street near 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Lexington Avenue. That's where beron Nievez was working as a 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: cashier when an unknown male masked and dressed in all 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: black enter the restaurant and demanded money. Police say bron 33 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Nievez was shot in the torso as the robbery progressed. 34 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Police say two other people were injured during the course 35 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: of this robbery. A female manager at the restaurant was 36 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: punched in the face and a male customer was likely 37 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: pistol whipped. Both are expected to recover. Family members tell 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: us beron Nievez and her family had just moved to 39 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: New York from Puerto Rico a few years ago. The 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: teenager had only been working at Burger King for the 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: past few months. The family is now pleading with person 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: responsible to turn themselves in well I can tell you 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: right now he's not going to turn himself in. He's 44 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: looking at a murder charge and more. Again, thank you 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: for being with us here at Crime Stories, with me 46 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: an all star panel to make sense of what we 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: know right now. And two very special guests I'd like 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: to start with, first of all, the family friend Space 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: King for the victims family. Nathalie Pagan is with us 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: and Tina More from the New York Post with the 51 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Police Bureau chief. Thank you so much for being with us. 52 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: To Police Bureau chief at the New York Post, Tina More, Tina, 53 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about what we now happened 54 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: right now? Well, it looks like the gunman came in 55 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: early Sunday morning to the burger king and he punched 56 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: a female manager and mister whitsonmother person and pulled the gun. 57 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: Especially Las gun has been coining the gun at clerk 58 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: and as you know, who was behind the counter. And 59 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: then at some point she gave him a hundred dollars. 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: He walked away, but then he turned around and shot 61 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: her anyway, and it's just not clear, I really unclear 62 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: what happened, and that there's a couple of minutes, but 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: he's in the wind, so there's no sign of them. Photos. Really, 64 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: you can't see him in the pictures. The cups released, 65 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: so they're they're they're trying to find them. Still no 66 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: rest of it in the chief, so Tina Moore joining me, 67 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Police Bureau chief with a New York Post. He was 68 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: wearing dark clothes and a face mask so he couldn't 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: be identified. But even after, even after Crystel turns over 70 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars bill to him, he turns back around 71 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: and shoots her dead. Yes, yes, okay to Nathalie Pagan 72 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: joining us, a dear friend of the victim's family. Nathalie, 73 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: when did Crystel's family find out what had happened? The 74 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Metropolitan Hospital call the model on my and saw her. 75 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Is your daughter? Two styles by dawn? And she say yes. 76 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: And she asked them if anything happened to her and 77 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: they say did and she say she okay, and they 78 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: say no. When they say no, she wake up her boyfriend. 79 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: And so she wake up her boyfriend and she said 80 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: that he started talking and when she went to him, 81 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: he was trying allah and when she saw him prying 82 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: a last she say, oh, something happened to my daughter, right, 83 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: And he said yes, and then she called me, and 84 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: then she called me, and I called the hospital and 85 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: the hospital told me that I got to bring her in. 86 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: So we went to the hospital. And they don't let 87 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: us see her that day. They don't let us recognize 88 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: the body and nothing that day. They just tell us 89 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: that they tried to do everything for her, but she 90 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: wasn't responding to Justin Bourman, former Special Victims Unit detective 91 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: joining us and he is the author of I Was Wrong, 92 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: Investigator's Battle Cry for Change and the SVU justin thank 93 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: you for being with us. And can you even imagine 94 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: getting that call in the middle of the night, knowing 95 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: that something's wrong, getting up in the wee morning hours, 96 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: going to the hospital and you're not allowed to see 97 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: your daughter or identify her body. You're just there. Absolutely 98 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: not what a horrific way to first off, what a 99 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: horrific thing to have happened, but what a horrific way 100 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: to find out that your daughter had passed. I'm stunned. 101 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely not best practice. That's certainly putting perfume on the pig, 102 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: justin not best practice. You say that again, just but 103 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: the mind of what went through this killer who again, 104 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: as you heard the police Bureau chief of the New 105 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: York Post state, he's quote in the win, he's on 106 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: the run, and while people are making public police for 107 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: him to turn himself in. That's not going to happen. 108 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: There's no way, no, that ain't gonna happen. To doctor 109 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Sherry's source joining me forensic psychologists. He specializes in criminal psychology, 110 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: her book Criminal Behavior and her other book Where Law 111 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: and Psychology Intersect. Doctor Sherry Schwartz, thank you for being 112 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: with us. I don't understand why the guy gets some money, 113 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: this little girl hands over, she's nineteen years old. He 114 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: gets some money and then turns back around and her dead. Well, 115 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: that defies logic to those of us who don't engage 116 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: in violence repeatedly. But sometimes the robbery almost in cases 117 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: like this, feels sort of incidental secondary to the violence, 118 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: that the perpetrators more interested in the violence than they 119 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: are the prophet. That's not a satisfying explanation, but we 120 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: know from researching, you know, characteristics of perpetrators that this 121 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: sometimes in these types of offenses is true. And to 122 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Matthew Mangino, former District attorney, Lawrence County, now private attorney 123 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: and author of the Executioner's Toll, Matthew, thank you for 124 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: being with us. This is clearly premeditated. He shows up 125 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: dressed all in dark clothing, his face covered with a weapon. 126 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Why does it in a weapon? A gun? In burger king, 127 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: This was late at night. He waited until there was 128 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: a female unarmed on duty at the cash register, and 129 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: then he struck. There's no way this is going to 130 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: be manslaughter, much less involuntary manslaughter. This was premeditated. He 131 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: lay in wait for the right moment. Well, yeah, I 132 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: mean this is no question. There's no reason to kill 133 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: this young woman. I mean, he's in there, his face 134 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: is covered, He's not trying to do away with someone 135 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: who might be able to identify him. This is just 136 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: a cold blooded murder. You know, the reason cannot be 137 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: justified under any circumstances that I can imagine in this 138 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: particular gase. No, not at all. Take a listen to 139 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: Ericut number four, Jessica Cunningham MC four. We now know 140 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: that Crystal Byron Nieves was that nineteen year old who 141 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: was killed during this armed robbery, and I'm told she 142 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: just started the job here at this burger King not 143 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: too long ago. Now the gate is down on the 144 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: Burger King shop because the manager says they're going to 145 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: be closed for the rest of the day. But I 146 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: want to show you some video of this scene overnight 147 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: and early this morning when investigators were combing this entire scene. Again, 148 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: this is a burger King right at one sixteenth in Lexington, 149 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: and you could see in this video the crime scene 150 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: was still blocked off here this entire corner. Police say 151 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: a man walked into that burger King with a gun 152 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: and demanded money. They say he shot Crystal, who was 153 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: behind the register at the time, and then shoved and 154 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: pistol whipped a female manager who was also working and 155 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: the customer inside at the time. A worker tells me 156 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: investigators got the surveillance video they needed from inside to store, 157 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: but says the suspect was fully masked and was wearing 158 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: gloves as well. Masks and gloves. This was premeditated. It 159 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: was a spur of the moment incident. Prime Stories with 160 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Guys, we also know that this young girl, 161 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: just nineteen years old, family had moved from Puerto Rico 162 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: to quote seek a better life for the team girl 163 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: in the United States hadn't been here all the job 164 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: but for about three weeks when she is gunned down 165 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: by a masked assailant after he gets the money, and 166 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: as doctor Sherry Schwartz was pointing out, it's not about 167 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: the money. He did this for the joy of killing someone, 168 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: the pure joy of killing someone. Take a listen to 169 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: our cut three from ABC seven You Know over the 170 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: man suspected in a deadly armed robbery at a Burger 171 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: King and East Harlem cameras recorded the suspect in all 172 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: black waving a gun around this morning at about one 173 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: at one hundred and sixteenth Street and Lexington Avenue. Police 174 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: say the suspect opened fire behind the restaurant counter, fatally 175 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: shooting nineteen year old cashier Crystal Bayron Jeves. Police say 176 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: the suspect also punched a manager in the face and 177 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: pistol whipped a customer. The shooter ran away with an 178 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: unknown amount of cash. This is what is bizarre, almost eerie, 179 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: straight out to doctor Michelle Dpree, forensic pathologist, former medical examiner, 180 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: detective author, ab homicide investigation field guide dodgor G Pree, 181 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how often you have seen this, but 182 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: seen it quite often, and it's extremely odd. It's not 183 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: anything that bears any weight in front of a jury, 184 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: or it's not pro but it doesn't prove anything. But 185 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: I find it very very coincidental. We learned from her 186 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: family that this young girl, nineteen year old Kristen Crystal, 187 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: had asked for additional security. She was afraid working at 188 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: the burger king there. She had asked for security. She 189 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: was afraid when she would leave day shift, and she 190 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: had asked the manager to move her off the night shift, 191 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and the manager had done that. The rub is the 192 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: new schedule was not supposed to start until that Friday, 193 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: and this happened just a couple of days before her 194 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: new schedule started. To you, doctor Michelle Dupree, have you 195 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: ever seen cases where the murder victim seemingly had a 196 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: ammunition that something terrible was afoot, Nancy, I certainly have. 197 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I've often taught to family members or friends of a 198 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: loved one who has passed in a violent manner like this, 199 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: and they often have, almost as you said, a premonition. 200 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: They're afraid of something that they don't know exactly what, 201 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: and they may ask for additional security, or they may 202 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: say they feel like they're being watched, but this is 203 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: not uncommon. To Nathalie Pagan joining Us a very close 204 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: friend of the victim's family. I understand that Crystal and 205 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: her fourteen year old little brother and her mom had 206 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: moved from Puerto Rico here for a better life for 207 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: the two teen children. That she had completed her ged, 208 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: gotten her high school diploma on her own, and was 209 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: working to save money to buy a car. Is this true? Yes? 210 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: Did you know? Did her mother know, Nathalie that she 211 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: was afraid. No, we never knew about nothing that she 212 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: was feeling afraid and nothing. That's interesting because other sources 213 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: have stated to Utena Moore joining to The New York 214 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Post that she was afraid working there, that she had 215 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: told family members she was afraid. She didn't want to 216 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: work at night. She wanted security when she had to 217 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: leave the building at the Burger King, and she was 218 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: so afraid she actually asked the manager to take her 219 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: off the night shift. Great she said were up to 220 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: fifty men who would be outside the store, loitering outside 221 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: the store sometimes early in the morning when she would 222 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: get done, and she said that it scared her. Book 223 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Our reporter who spoke the family the day after. It's 224 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: just so upset that you've got a teen girl trying 225 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: her hardest in this country that we believe is the 226 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: greatest country in the world. On her own. She goes 227 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and gets her ged after having moved here from Puerto 228 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Rico to seek a better life. The mother's working, she's working, 229 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the little brother is in school. She begs for more security. 230 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: And now this the tip line to catch Crystal's killer. 231 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: What a senseless waste of human life. Eight hundred five 232 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: seven seven tips eight hundred five seven seven eight four 233 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: seven seven. There was also a go fund me It's 234 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: Crystal Nieves victim of one hundred and sixteenth Street Burger 235 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: King shooting. Take a listen now to Kyron Dillon our 236 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: cut two from CBS two. Shooting is unacceptible harding. Her mother, 237 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: along with family members, were unable to contain their grief 238 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: as they were comforted by members of the community. Girl 239 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: Chaplain Robert Race. The family is now in morning. I 240 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: was with the mother all night. I pray with the family. 241 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: Or they're not doing well. This mother is claying out, 242 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. This mother is hurting, She's 243 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: hurting because now she's don't know what to do. The 244 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: violence has left neighbor shaken. More police officers and security 245 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: yards all around the stores around here because people are dangerous, 246 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, in my mind, team to more. I appreciate 247 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: the sentiment, but blah blah blah screaming into a bullhorn. 248 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: It's not going to change anything. The relaxed bail reform 249 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: rules where hardened criminals basically give a fingerprint and walk 250 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: out the front door. Gun violence is rampant. You heard 251 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: this little girl afraid because there would be forty to 252 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: fifty homeless people guys men outside the door of the 253 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: burger king when she would try to leave. Of course 254 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: she's afraid, But why why is it degenerating like this? 255 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are trying to figure 256 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: this out right now. I mean, there are definitely some 257 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: low level of crime people are not going to jail 258 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: or anymore. There's some good readers for that. But also 259 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: this is the result and one of the big problems 260 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: with mental health, and there's not an arm really to 261 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: deal with that. There's no program in place. Well, can 262 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I ask you something, do we have any any evidence? 263 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Even Sintila A scrap a shred of evidence. Tina more 264 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: to suggest the guy that was dressed all in black, 265 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: covering his face, wearing gloves, goes into the burger cane 266 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: when it's a lone female at the cash at the 267 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: cash register, wait till it's late at night, with the 268 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: cover of darkness. Clearly premeditated, pre plans. It any suggestion 269 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: at all that he had a mental illness, because he 270 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: sounds pretty calm and cool and collected to me, clearly 271 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: a cold blooded killer. I was talking about the fifty 272 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: guys outside the restaurant I find in the corner. I 273 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: live in the area. I know that some of them men, 274 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: thought some of them are mentally ill. But this guy, no, 275 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: you don't think that a full blooded killer. According to 276 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: the family, a young man who stopped by to see 277 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: her at the restaurant and bring her a flower almost nightly, 278 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: was there when she was killed. His heart broken. The 279 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: family's heart broken. What if anything is going to be done? 280 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Well on our end, we can try to catch her killer, 281 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: but it is up to the district attorney, who was 282 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: soft on crime, the new head of police there, to 283 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: do something about it, not just sit by and let 284 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: Crystal's life be taken in vain? Are they going to 285 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: do something about it? Sadly, I don't know if they 286 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: are or not. How many dead bodies will it take 287 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: before they wait up and realize what's happening around them? 288 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: Will it take somebody that's in their inner circle to 289 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: be gunned down like this before they feel the pain 290 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: that other families are feeling? Right now, take a listen 291 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: to our cut five. This is Jessica Cunnington NBC four. 292 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: The crime scene unit spent about seven hours inside the 293 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: burger king gathering photos and other evidence. But I did 294 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: speak with one neighbor who says he comes to this 295 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: burger king all the time, and he brought this white 296 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: candle here, left it right outside the door to honor 297 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: the victim, who says she just started working here just 298 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: about a week ago, ninety years old. I woke up 299 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: seeing it on my phone and decided to ring it 300 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: candle down. I got the white candle, regulative piece. She 301 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: didn't deserve what she got. We just need to get 302 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: do something about the valance. It's going on right now 303 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: really just so sad and investigators at this moment looking 304 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: for the shooter right now, but also it seems that 305 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: employees are people just trying to come to this burger 306 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: king and are being let in by other employees just 307 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: to be together and to console each other. Again the 308 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: manager here telling me they are closed for the rest 309 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: of the day. A nineteen year old girl dead Prime 310 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace nineteen years old. Do we never learn? 311 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: It seems like yesterday the mass killing of employees at 312 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: Wendy's and the same jurisdiction. Listen to our friend could 313 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: be one, Mary Murphy Picks eleven forty twelve. Main Street 314 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: is eerily quiet during the pandemic by Benjamin Nazario always 315 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: avoids it. I walk when I go there. I want 316 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: go Shuttle Street twenty years ago forty twelve was the 317 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: site of Wendy's, the place where Nazario's brother ramone and 318 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: six co workers were shot execution style and a basement 319 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: freezer and many were ready close during a robbery planned 320 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: by former assistant manager John Taylor. Taylor and accomplished Craig 321 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: Gadino took the E train to Jackson Heights and the 322 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: seven to Main Street. John Taylor blamed the shooting Zangadino. 323 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: I would like the Taylor polygraph. I'll tell you right now, 324 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: because I did not shoot any of those victims in there, 325 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: but survivor Jakwan Johnson, just eighteen, then recovered from partial 326 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: paralysis to testify against Taylor. Johnson saw what happened with 327 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: his right eye. I still think about my friends all 328 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: the time, and I gotta live with that for the 329 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: rest of my life. And Taka listening into Mary Murphy 330 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: our cut b too. John Taylor was the last person 331 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: on New York's death row. In two thousand and seven, 332 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: the Court of Appeals ruled the capital punishment law was unconstitutional. 333 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: We're more than three hundred twenty miles from Main Street, 334 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: Flushing and those looming thirty foot concrete walls you see 335 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: behind me surround the Clinton Correctional Facility, a maximum security 336 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: prison where the mastermind of the Wendy's robbery and mass 337 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: shooting now lives his days without any chance of parole. 338 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh what I supposed feel sorry for him? He murdered, 339 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: mass murder, He murdered multiple people for what what was 340 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: in the teal at a Wendy's. To Tina Moore joining 341 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: me from the New York Post, do we never learn? 342 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: I got to pay for three hots and a cop 343 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: for this guy after a mass murder at a Wendy's, 344 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: and now it's happening all over again. Well, I mean, 345 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: he's still in jail, sar As, I know, still in prison. Correct, 346 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: he's in prison. But he's a lie and they're not. 347 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like people. I feel, Tina, that 348 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: these fast food restaurants are an easy target. And I'll 349 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: tell you why because very often, like me, you have 350 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: very young, inexperienced people working as cashiers on McDonald's, at Windy's, 351 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: at my sandwich shop I told you about, and they're 352 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: sitting ducks. They're easy prey for coal blooded predators, Tina. 353 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: I think so. I think that these change should be 354 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: thinking about who they're scheduling and when Why is the 355 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: nineteen year old girl scheduled on the overnight shift they're 356 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: exact play the movie, continue to do that shift. I don't. 357 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand that nobody's really questioned that yet. That's 358 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: actually a really good, first positive thought, something that we 359 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: can do to make a difference. And not only that. 360 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: When you said that, I thought about mandatory security guard 361 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: and these fast food restaurants when they're open late at night, 362 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: because we all know, and it's not just anecdotal, is 363 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: statistical that most the majority of these type murders and 364 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: robberies do happen in the cover of darkness. Now that's 365 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: something that can be changed for the positive. Teama more 366 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: joining us from the post, you know, senseless killings over 367 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: what this was one hundred dollar bill to doctor Sherry Schwartz. 368 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: Do you think that predators prey on Well, obviously they do, 369 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: whether it is intentional or it's subconscious on people that 370 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: are inexperienced, like teens working at cash registers. Oh, absolutely, 371 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: without a doubt. And what the data would suggest is 372 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: that this is somebody who's familiar with that area who 373 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: would know when Crystal shift was, you know, would know 374 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: that she was potentially would maybe see her going in 375 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: and out of the restaurant. And you know that theory 376 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: cons that you show body language wise when you're interacting 377 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: with these fifty or so homeless men outside. So this 378 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: is somebody who likely knew that and chose that time 379 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: and her shift on purpose to tain No more. What's 380 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: the latest in trying to find her killer. Oh, I 381 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: talked to the police this morning and there's still no arrests. 382 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: As far as I know, they don't have anybody in custody. 383 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: There are a couple of rewards out for him. Maybe 384 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. You know that happened with stupid criminals. 385 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: They talk about their crimes and then someone turns them 386 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: in for the money. So that that's a possibility. I'm 387 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: sure I would imagine police. I hope that happens. Well, 388 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: I think you're right again, Tina More joining us the 389 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: New York Post because it's really hard for criminals to 390 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: keep the pie holes shut. So if he brags to 391 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: anyone and it gets back, that's at least a lead. 392 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Another senseless killing at fast food. Take a listen to 393 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: the La Taco Bell case our cut ten. This is 394 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: Joy Benedict at k CAL. We are told a Taco 395 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: Bell employee lost his life simply doing his job. It 396 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: happened here this Taco bell behind me in South Los Angeles. 397 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: You can see over the left hand side that drive 398 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 1: through window is all shot up. We are told that 399 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: is where someone in the drive through simply open fire inside, 400 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: killing the forty one year old worker. Take a look 401 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: at this video from last night at all half about 402 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: eleven pm. That's when investigators say someone had come through 403 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: the drive through they placed an order. When they pulled 404 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: up to the window, investigators say that individual in the 405 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: vehicle attempted to hand that employee some sort of a 406 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: counterfeit bill. The employee refused to take it and then 407 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: declined them service, and that is when we are told 408 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: that individual pulled out a gun and fired numerous shots 409 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: through the window of the drive through of the Taco 410 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Bell and unfortunately shot and killed that worker inside. We 411 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of information about the man who 412 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: died here. We just know that he was forty one 413 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: years old. He worked here at this Taco Bell and 414 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: he was working that drive through window last night when 415 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: all of this took place. I can tell you something 416 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: else about him. He lost his life and we're a 417 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: twenty dollar our counterfeit bill, a fake bill. I can 418 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: tell you this. Working alongside him that night at the 419 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: drive through, his teen boy son sees dad gun down. 420 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: You don't think that's gonna be in his mind the 421 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: rest of his life. Take a listen to our cut 422 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: eleven our friends at Fox eleven. Family has identified the 423 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: victim as forty one year old Alejandro Garcia. They say 424 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: that he was a family man, a father of three, 425 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: and a hard worker. He worked at the taco bell 426 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: one night out of the week to provide for his family, 427 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: and now his family is mourning his death. Are you 428 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: a hard working man, a family man? And for him? 429 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Just do hey? Do? Horrible? Horrible and inconceivable. Nancy Dell 430 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Soul's cousin, forty one year old Alejandro Garcia, was shot 431 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: and killed on the job at a taco bell Saturday 432 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: night in South la He was working the evening shifts 433 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: alongside his nineteen year old son. The way there you 434 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: go in front of you fun. It was really really 435 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: promoting experian for a nephew, you know. To you, Justin 436 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: boardman joining us former Special Victims Unit Detective Justin. I 437 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: remember my dad working the swing shift, or so he 438 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: called it. I guess it was the third trick, and 439 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: he would get in work all night for the railroad 440 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: and get in early the next morning as we weren't 441 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: leaving for school sometimes to do the second trick, and 442 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: him beginning home at midnight, just working so hard to 443 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: put us through school and to pay for the house 444 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: payment and the car payment. And it's just devastating alike 445 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: in this case with Crystal, people trying to make a 446 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: better life for themselves and their family just gunned down 447 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: over what one hundred dollars out of the register twenty 448 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: dollars counterfeit bill. I don't get it. Justin I wish, 449 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I wish I had all the answers. I don't either. 450 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Certainly they need to be wiped 451 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: out the streets and put away. And you know what 452 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: kills me the most about this is these these you know, 453 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: regular joes that are really trying hard to make ends meet, 454 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: try to do things for their family, work in extra 455 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: shift a week at a Taco Bell, to save some money, 456 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: to go do fun things with their family, and to 457 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: die over a stake twenty dollar bill over a taco. 458 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Somebody basically was killed over a taco. Insane. Insane over 459 00:29:47,040 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: a taco. Yes, you're right. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace 460 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: to you, doctor Michelle Duprey dupre joining US medical examiner 461 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: doctor Dupree. In the case of Crystal and in the 462 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: case that we're talking about right now, the Taco Bell case, 463 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: how long would the victims have survived? I mean, I 464 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: don't think Crystal was alive when she got to the hospital, 465 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: and I know that the father at Taco Bell died 466 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: with it bled out in his son's arms. Well, Nancy, 467 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: that's a very good question. Of course, it depends on 468 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: where the injury occurred, how serious it was. But oftentimes 469 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: it's really within minutes, which is fortunate. Do you know 470 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: what's happening. Do you lose consciousness? Do you just black 471 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: out or do you know you're dying? Eventually? Of course 472 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: you do lose consciousness, and the time depends on again 473 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: how nificant bandary is. But yes, typically you do know 474 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: you're dying. To Matthew Mangino joining us former prosecutor, the 475 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: district attorney and Lawrence County now private attorney and author, 476 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: it just seems to me like the same thing happens 477 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: over and over and over. We elect politicians to do something, 478 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: not just live off our tax money. Yeah, I agree. 479 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: And you know the question here, Nancy, is the common 480 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: denominator here is guns. I mean, we can't ignore this. 481 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: We've talked about Burger King and Wen Days and talk 482 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: O Bell, all tragic incidents, all people who were gunned down. 483 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: You know, how do we get these guns out of 484 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: the hands of people who shouldn't have them, people who 485 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: are going to use those to commit crimes, to murder people. 486 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, whether this was a premeditated murder that occurred 487 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: in Burger king or whether this was a robbery that 488 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: went awry. Um, the common denominator is guns. Uh. You know, 489 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I if those guys in the in the vehicle who 490 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: were arguing about a counterfeit twenty dollars bill didn't have guns, 491 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: no one would have been harmed inside the inside of 492 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: the um tacolo bell I mean you have You can't 493 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: throw a knife through the window of a drive through 494 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: to kill somebody. It's the guns that are creating the havoc. 495 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: And gun violence is rising in major cities across the country, 496 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, in Philadelphia and Indianapolish in New York. And 497 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: then the other thing that that very concerning is the 498 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: clearance rates. And you as as as a prosecutor, know 499 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: what the clearance rates are. You know how important that is. 500 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Are we solving these crimes? And right now? Uh, you 501 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: know one and two homicides goes unclear in this country. 502 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: So that means that one out of every people who 503 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: commit a murder are still walking the streets and these 504 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: people are armed. You know, how do we go about 505 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: getting those guns out of the hands of people who 506 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: are going to use them to hurt other people? You know? 507 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: N Tina More joining US Police Bureau chief at the 508 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: New York Post. Knowing what you know, knowing what I know, 509 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: those of us that are in the business of crime, 510 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: it haunts me. For instance, fighting pull up at a 511 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: red light, especially if I have my twins in the car. 512 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: I look over with what Matthew Mangina's just said, ringing 513 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: in my ears. One out of two homicides not solved. 514 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: I look around in the red light. I think, hey, 515 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: who's that? Are they out on parole? It's very disconcerting 516 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: knowing what we know, Tina More, it is. It's it's 517 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: a bit scary right now in the city. But I 518 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to I'm probably gonna get 519 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: myself a trouble for saying this because I have an 520 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: office at police headquarters where I work every day. But 521 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: where we're the police, I mean, they're they're supposed to 522 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: be a deterrent. They're supposed to be in the area 523 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: there's supposed to be around. They're supposed to be in 524 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: their cars driving around the neighborhood and on foot patrol. 525 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure they're around enough. Well, isn't it 526 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: show the police force has been cut back? Right? And 527 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: then you have COVID too, which is there are people out? 528 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean, hasn't the police force been cut back? The 529 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: defund the police movement? Yeah? Yeah, Well I guess that's 530 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: where they are. They got defunded. That was a heck 531 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: of an idea that it is certainly backfired. When Tina 532 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: Moore was talking Matthew Mangino justin talking about all across 533 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: the country they're ride Take a listen, we're heading out 534 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: to Orlando. Are cut twelve from ABC eleven. Family friend 535 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: Tammy Tillman Edwards was overcome with emotion speaking about twenty 536 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: two year old Desmond Joshua Junior, who was shot and 537 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: killed Saturday while working at the Burger King drive through one. 538 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: Orange County Sheriff's deputy say it started Saturday night at 539 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: this Burger King on East Colonial after a woman was 540 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: upset about the drive through line taking too long. The 541 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: arrest affidavit says the woman got a refund and left, 542 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: but came back a few minutes later. With a man 543 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: driving a work truck with an SGL logo on it. 544 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: They go on to say the driver, identified as Kelvis 545 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: Rodriguez Dormis, demanded to fight Joshua Junior. A fight between 546 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the two broke out. The report states the suspect was 547 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: heard saying, you got two seconds before I shoe you. 548 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: Joshua Junior was shot and killed. Deputy say Rodriguez Dormez 549 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: and the woman drove off to a house about two 550 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: miles away on Ventana Lane. They were found and detained. 551 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: Did I understand that correctly, Jackie? Did they actually murder 552 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: someone because it took too long with their fast food? Yes, 553 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: they got angry senseless murders. Now, this is a recent 554 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: one that has really broken my heart. Take a listen 555 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: to our cut six our frans at Katie RK ABC Humble. 556 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Police say surveillance video shows Colladro Duenyes, walking towards Chucky 557 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: Cheese with his daughter's birthday cake when the suspect drove 558 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: the wrong way down a row of parking spots and 559 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: almost hit the father of two. The two exchanged words 560 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: and then a witness told police they heard three gunshots. 561 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: My six year old saw you lying on the ground. 562 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: Twenty four year old Duenna has died at the hospital. 563 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: A short time later, My daughter Jake and to have herfurging. 564 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: Now my kids don't have their dad. Really really, police 565 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: didn't really roths these guys. Two days Humble Police are 566 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: still investigating. The suspect has not been caught. He was 567 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: said to be driving a black Ford car as of 568 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: right now, this young dad carrying the birthday cake and 569 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: for his six year old little girl, no arrest. This 570 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: is what we know. Take a listen to our cut 571 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: Akhou eleven. The Humble Police Department says Duenez was in 572 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: the parking lot carrying a birthday cake when a young 573 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: man driving the wrong way down the parking lot lane 574 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: had words with Duenne's in the parking lot. They say, 575 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: the suspect pulled out a gun and shot Duennas they 576 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: tell us, a suspect led an affordy vehicle. I don't 577 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: understand how someone can do something to somebody like that 578 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: when he was walking with a cake. Wodesi says she 579 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: hopes police can soon find the person responsible. I just 580 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: hope that you know, he's found quickly and then for 581 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: the safety of the community as well. Because if he 582 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: did this to my husband, I'm being imagined he could 583 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: do this to anybody else. She's right, he could. I 584 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: don't get it. I think I need a shrink on this. 585 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor Sherry Schwartz forensic psychologists joining us 586 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: at panther mitigation dot com or Sherry Senseless killings over 587 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: what this dad's carrying a birthday cake, a counterfeit twenty 588 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: a late bag of tacos, I mean murder over a 589 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: taco what's happening? Well, So, for an example, the case 590 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: of the dad carrying the birthday cake and almost seemingly 591 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: like road rage, right because he almost hits the dad, 592 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: and the dad gets mad and they have words and 593 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: then he inflicts this violence. These your characteristics of statistic 594 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: personality where you intend to harm somebody, right, this is 595 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: not a question mark. You intended to harm, and so 596 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: you did harm. And this is somebody who lacks regret. 597 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: They failed to take responsibility. They derive pleasure, they enjoy 598 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: seeing other people hurt. They're going to have the last words, 599 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: so to speak to Nathalie Pagan, the family friend of 600 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: Crystal nivis, how is Crystal's family right now? Is Betty 601 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: painful what they going through because she moved, She moved 602 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico to pay her kids out of the 603 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: violence in Puerto Rico. For this to happen here, they 604 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: came like seven They came like seven years ago, like 605 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: looking for a real life and I just came to 606 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: pick her mother off. We're gonna go buy her the 607 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: dress for the viewing. And it's hard, it's really hard. 608 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: Tip Line one eight hundred and five seven seven Tips 609 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: one eight hundred five seven seven eight four seven seven 610 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crumb story signing off Goodbye friend,