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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena and we are here with none other

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Speaker 1: than Jess from Bachelor and Paradise.

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Speaker 2: Just welcome, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, of course. How are you I'm not too bad.

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Speaker 1: How are you guys? Good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: Last time I had you on was Clickbait for Zach Season. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so a lot has happened since then. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: going to Bachelor in Paradise. What were you looking for

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Speaker 1: in a partner?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I you know, I don't really put myself

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Speaker 3: out there, so my going to Boucher in Paradise was

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Speaker 3: just kind of like a let me just make myself

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable again and like try again and try to find

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Speaker 3: my lifelong partner. And to me, my non negotiables are

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Speaker 3: just someone not makes me feel like I'm you and

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Speaker 3: person in the room, and someone that's very attentive and

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Speaker 3: caring and patient because it does take me a while

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Speaker 3: to open up. So someone that's not that doesn't see

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Speaker 3: that as like a bad thing I would say.

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Speaker 4: Before God, Yeah, can I ask what your dating history

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Speaker 4: was like prior to going on Zach Season?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've only had two boyfriends and nothing in between,

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Speaker 3: so I'm very like tunnel vision person and the last

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Speaker 3: my last relationship before Zach season, I thought I was

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Speaker 3: going to marry him and it was like the worst

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Speaker 3: heartbreak that I've ever been through, and that's why my

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Speaker 3: friends signed me up. So I definitely am not that experience.

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Speaker 2: So I'm learning as I go.

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Speaker 1: That's fair knowing knowing the way Bachelor in Paradise operates.

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Speaker 1: Did you prepare yourself at all for potentially being in

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Speaker 1: a love triangle.

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Speaker 4: Or yeah, because it's like you're like a serial monogamous,

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Speaker 4: like your relationship girly is the vibe I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it actually ended up being a fault

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Speaker 3: that I was so stuck on not being in a

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Speaker 3: love shrigle and I was so afraid of that. My

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Speaker 3: biggest thing for myself going into it was to be respectful,

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Speaker 3: and I think that in turn, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: in Paradise like you have to be selfish, and I

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Speaker 3: just like that was like something that I was so

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Speaker 3: fearful of and didn't want to do.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you've seen so I feel like a big

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Speaker 1: part of the issue is you're very likable and you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of friends, a lot of the girls

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Speaker 1: are friends with you, and you don't want to stop

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Speaker 1: out anyone's toes, and unfortunately, in a place like Paradise,

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Speaker 1: you almost have to write.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like Joe and I have talked a lot about

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Speaker 4: the benefit of being someone like an Eliza or even

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Speaker 4: like a Blake that comes down and like it's not

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Speaker 4: their entire cast down there, so it's kind of like

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Speaker 4: if they want to hop or even like Will, like

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Speaker 4: Will was talking to all the girl these day one

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Speaker 4: because he's like, I don't care if my stuff on

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Speaker 4: these guys toes. I don't even know these guys. Whereas

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Speaker 4: like for someone like you, like I was in your shoes,

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Speaker 4: like there was quite a few girls for my season,

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Speaker 4: it's like if I know so and So's into this guy,

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Speaker 4: like I don't want to, you know, put myself in

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Speaker 4: between that even if they might be into me. Right,

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Speaker 4: is that kind of the dynamic you felt like you were.

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Speaker 2: In one hundred percent?

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Speaker 3: And I think for me, like obviously the girls, like

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Speaker 3: we all talked about who we're hopeful to see and

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Speaker 3: like we kind of have like an understanding of like

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Speaker 3: you kind of have.

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Speaker 2: To do what you have to do.

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Speaker 3: But like getting there and being there, I was just

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Speaker 3: scared to hurt people's feelings and even girls that I

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Speaker 3: was just meeting, Like I didn't I just didn't want

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Speaker 3: that I'm learning looking back and watching myself for sure.

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Speaker 4: Who were the guys that you were interested in meeting

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Speaker 4: that you kind of talked about in advance like going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was very hopeful to see Tanner or

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm like just.

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Speaker 3: Delusional, like keep coming up with like what their personalities

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Speaker 3: So I went into it knowing like, Okay, we like

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Speaker 3: these guys are attractive and like, but I don't know

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Speaker 3: But you know, Blake was not someone that I thought

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Speaker 3: that was definitely like taken by surprise, and I was

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Speaker 3: very excited about it because it was more of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Nice. I want to get more into the the Blake

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Speaker 1: the Blake stuff of it all. But Tanner is somebody

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Speaker 1: that you were interested also somebody Cat was interested in.

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Speaker 1: We see Tanner takes Cat out of a date. You

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Speaker 1: and Kat are friends. Did you guys have a conversation

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Speaker 1: about Tanner prior to going on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, prior to the show, we both knew that that

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Speaker 3: I did my best to not make it a think.

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Speaker 3: I just think naturally, like it's just a bummer to

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Speaker 3: not be chosen when you're like picturing and imagining what

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Speaker 3: it could be like with someone. And so I think

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Speaker 3: for me, like it was just like I was just

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Speaker 3: bummed and overwhelmed by the fact that, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: he took my best friend and it was like almost

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Speaker 3: like a turn off for me to want to pursue

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Speaker 3: him after that. But you know, he there was nothing,

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Speaker 3: no one did anything wrong, Like she I it could

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Speaker 3: have been me going on that date, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I was never angry with anyone. It was just

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Speaker 2: a bummer.

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Speaker 1: We we do. I think it was. I think it

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Speaker 1: was in the truth box, but I feel like someone

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Speaker 1: else on the on this podcast I mentioned that about

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Speaker 1: your relationship with Cat, where I think somebody wrote like

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Speaker 1: Jess needs to watch out for Kat and if it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what they said, it was said, it

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Speaker 4: wasn't like as ominous. I think it was like Kat

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Speaker 4: she thinks she is, or something along those lines. Do

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Speaker 4: you want to provide any like context or what that

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Speaker 3: I remembered like that just throwing me off, like it

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Speaker 2: I think some.

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Speaker 3: People thought maybe that I wasn't going to pursue Tanner

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Speaker 3: because of that, so maybe that was their perspective of

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Speaker 3: saying that. But it didn't become a thing, Like we

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Speaker 3: didn't have a conversation about that. I know Cat's intentions

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Speaker 3: and I don't think she's a bad friend.

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Speaker 4: So I want to know, so Tanner takes Cat on

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Speaker 4: the date you said you were kind of turned off

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Speaker 4: by that was your desire to not pursue Tanner anymore

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Speaker 4: from your loyalty to Cat? Or was it more like

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Speaker 4: if you wanted me, you had the chance, and now

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Speaker 4: like you didn't take me in that doors post or

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Speaker 4: was it maybe I was a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit of both.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, obviously paradise, like you can't get

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Speaker 3: gonna pick someone from a twenty second conversation. Looking back,

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Speaker 3: I understand that, and I'm like very aware of it.

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Speaker 3: But in the moment, I think I took it personal

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Speaker 4: The con you wanted to have him do, like with

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Speaker 4: Davia Dimmer Tanner, like one convo, be like I and.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, Like watching it back, it was such

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Speaker 3: an awkward conversation, like that was the first time a

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Speaker 3: god pulled me so like I didn't know what to

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Speaker 2: I remember like looking around a lot, being like I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like am I leading this conversation? And like

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Speaker 2: what do I ask?

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Speaker 3: Like I hadn't Like I like I wasn't prepped for

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Speaker 3: my best So looking back, I see why he picked

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Speaker 3: Kat obviously, like I was so awkward and Cat's amazing, But.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, it wasn't the best conversation. But yes,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be chosen.

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Speaker 3: I wanted someone to be like I was so excited

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Speaker 3: to meet Jess and I want to like get to

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Speaker 1: And where were you in Blake at that at that time,

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Speaker 1: like where was your relation? What was your relationship stare.

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Speaker 2: When Tanner came down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that was like only

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Speaker 2: I would say it was still very like almost.

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Speaker 3: Surface level because it was so so fresh. So I

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Speaker 3: I think I remembered. I don't know if I'm wrong

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Speaker 3: if the bonfire was.

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Speaker 2: Before or after Tanner.

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Speaker 3: I think it was before, so like he said at

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Speaker 3: the bonfire, like he was still open and so I

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Speaker 3: mean I knew that, like it wouldn't be a bad

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Speaker 3: thing if I went on that date because we were

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Speaker 3: on the same page about being open.

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Speaker 4: Okay, totally, and that makes sense. I want to know,

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Speaker 4: how would you describe yourself, Like would you describe yourself

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Speaker 4: as a flirt? Do you like to pursue do you

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Speaker 4: like guys to pursue you? Because like I agree like

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Speaker 4: that comment, like you don't strike me as an awkward individual,

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Speaker 4: like having a conversation with you right now, but I

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Speaker 4: feel like, yeah, like some of the comments we've seen

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Speaker 4: with like Tanner, like it seems like you may be

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Speaker 4: like the guy to take the lead. But I'm just curious.

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Speaker 2: I really am not that awkward, to be honest, Like

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Speaker 2: I'm really not.

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Speaker 1: Like this show is LISTENID, We're all we are we

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Speaker 1: are when we go on this show, we are all all.

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Speaker 4: Like you're talking to like the king of the show.

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Speaker 1: I did the show twice. In my first conversation with

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Speaker 1: Serena might have been the most awkward.

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Speaker 4: It was the most I ever had my lege.

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Speaker 1: I told her, I told her, I heard this is

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Speaker 1: what I said. I said I heard Toronto is an

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Speaker 1: ugly city, but.

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Speaker 4: But no, you said, I heard Toronto's ugly on the outside,

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Speaker 4: but beautiful on the inside.

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Speaker 1: Probably like you, but I don't know what your insides

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Speaker 1: look like. That is what I said.

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Speaker 3: That was the first thing.

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Speaker 4: So don't feel bad about these like little clippets or

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Speaker 4: little snippets of if you feel like you look awkward

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Speaker 4: like Joe, Joe takes the cake on that one girl.

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Speaker 3: If he I think maybe I was very oblivious in

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Speaker 1: There more that he could have been giving to you

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, we talk a lot about that how like,

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Speaker 3: You know, at that point, I Blake and I were

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Speaker 3: Like I was just trying to relate to him, and

444
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 3: so I think that was my first cake when Sean

445
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: pulled me. And I don't even I don't remember if

446
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: I saw him next to me, if I was avoiding

447
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 3: him or not like I don't remember that. I just

448
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: like I think Sean deserved to pull me and talk

449
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 3: to me and like figure out if there was a

450
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: connection or not, like it's paradise. But yeah, no, I think, yeah,

451
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: I just I don't think there was anything there for me.

452
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. Okay, so now we see Tyler.

453
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: So Blake goes on the date and we see Tyler

454
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: pulls you and you guys have a conversation.

455
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 4: Wait before we get into that, where are Tyler and

456
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 4: Mercedes at at this by?

457
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: I think, you know, they have a really great date,

458
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: and I think they were like smittening over each other

459
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: and getting to know each other. And I think it

460
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: was still early stages. That's from like what I remember

461
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: at that time.

462
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because those of your it seems like it's

463
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: kind of fizzling out between the two of them, like and.

464
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: We don't see and we don't really see much. Yeah,

465
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: so we saw their date and it was kind of that.

466
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: So okay, so Tyler pulls you. You guys are on

467
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: the on the bed, and you guys have like a

468
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: little cute interaction. You kind of both are like attracted

469
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: to each other and and you make out, tell I

470
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: guess tell us a little bit more about that whole

471
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: situation and how you feel about Tyler.

472
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was some when you were interested in

473
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: meeting when he came down. So how did it feel

474
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 4: when you know Blake's not there? You got some space,

475
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 4: you had like a bit of a tough morning with

476
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,239
Speaker 4: him going the date, and now Tyler's pulling out.

477
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like you finally got the confirmation

478
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: you needed that, like somebody that you were into.

479
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

480
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: I think, well, so Tyler was someone I wanted to

481
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: get to know going into Paradise, and obviously when he

482
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: chose Mercedes, I think for me, like my insecurities were

483
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: showing when these guys were choosing my friends and not me,

484
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: Like it's definitely like anyone in my position would automatically

485
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: take a step back from that. And so when we

486
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: would spend time in a group setting, without even realizing

487
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: and like even trying, I would notice that Tyler and

488
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 3: I had a lot of similarities. And I also just

489
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: really liked his like bubbly personality. So to me, that

490
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 3: was like getting me a little bit more interested. And

491
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: when Blake went on that date, it was nice to

492
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 3: finally have that opportunity to get to know him and

493
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 3: talk to him one on one because.

494
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 2: We hadn't really had that.

495
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think from what I remembered, it was

496
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: just like a little fun conversation. Wasn't didn't feel very

497
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: like it didn't feel like a lot of pressure. But

498
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: I remembered still feeling a bit guilty having it still.

499
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's from them.

500
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: You felt guilty even though, Yeah, because on another.

501
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: Day, Blake's approach to me was that he you know,

502
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: he made a comment to me that he wanted it

503
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: was nice to feel wanted, and so I think that

504
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: like stuck with me for a bit, and it made

505
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: me question like what am I doing?

506
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: You know, And.

507
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: When someone says that, you automatically are like damn, like

508
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: that sucks, Like I don't ever want to make someone

509
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: feel that way. So it felt just like, am I

510
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: going to make that feeling worse for him?

511
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I get that, but like if you're are

512
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: going to be selfish in that moment, like, do you

513
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: feel like did you have to go back and think

514
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: like when he did say that, like, you don't really

515
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: make me feel wanted? Was there a part of you

516
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: that thought, well, it's because maybe I don't really want you, like,

517
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: but no, I'm like, did you at least yeah, yeah,

518
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, like at least think like half you kind

519
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: of have to like go back and like me like

520
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: internally and think like and that's that's a.

521
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: Good perspective question, I think again, Like in that moment,

522
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: so in my perspective, I have this mature man in

523
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: front of me that is saying that he wants to

524
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: be with me, and so it's like, why would I

525
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: not want to go full force at that, Like I

526
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: would be dumb to miss that, But it's like, am

527
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: I the best match for him? And it's like I

528
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: wanted it so in that moment, I want it to

529
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: be that way very badly because I knew leaving it

530
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: I would regret, like I've only had experience with like

531
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: frat boys and boys that just like ghost to you

532
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 3: after the first date, you know. So it's just like

533
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: I really wanted Blake to be the one for me,

534
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: and so I didn't want to let that go. And

535
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: I think my indecisiveness was selfish and I see his perspective.

536
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like it wasn't like I like, yes,

537
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: when someone tells you they're all in on you. That

538
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you feel that too, Like there's other

539
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: factors that that come in. So I think in that moment,

540
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 3: it was like fifty percent of me was like, oh

541
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: my gosh, I feel so selfish and I feel like

542
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: I'm you know, not thinking of him, but like and

543
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: the other perspective was like, well, what has he done

544
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: for me to make me feel like I'm the one

545
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: for him?

546
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Besides just saying.

547
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: That totally that's a good answer. That makes a lot

548
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: of sense. So then my question, I thought, this is

549
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: where you're going with your question.

550
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: I have one more hard one and then then we'll.

551
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: So when Blake, I looked at it from a different

552
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: perspective because I feel like if I was in your

553
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 4: shoes and Blake said to me, you don't make me

554
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 4: feel wanted, I would be like, well, you're going on

555
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: a date with someone else, so I don't really feel

556
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: that wanted today either, Like did you have that kind.

557
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: Of like there was like my mind was going crazy

558
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: because there were so many things happening. It was like

559
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it suck that you're going on a

560
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: date one of my best friends, but I'm also the

561
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: reason that you're going on a date with one of

562
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: my best friends. But am I because like, if you

563
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: really want to beat me, you wouldn't have said yes.

564
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: But like you know, they're just like this whole list

565
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: of things and it's like there's no right or wrong,

566
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: and like I do either.

567
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 2: At that point, I was.

568
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: Not angry with Blake, Like that wasn't the emotion that

569
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: I had, because like if I wanted to explore, like

570
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: he should too, and obviously like.

571
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like.

572
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: You said that too, and like my.

573
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 3: Best friends, like you know, I want her to be

574
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: happy and I want her to choose someone she wanted

575
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: to be with. But yeah, in that moment when he

576
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: said that and he was one of a date, like

577
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: I just felt very defeated. It wasn't necessarily anger, it

578
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: was just defeat. It was like I'm a shitty person.

579
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: I feel like what am I doing?

580
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 4: Okay, So that's got to be hard, especially like when

581
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 4: you have had this experience with these guys coming down

582
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 4: that you've been potentially interested in taking your friends on

583
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: a date, and now the guy that you're with is

584
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: taking one of your friends on it or going on

585
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: a date with one of your friends. Like, honestly, that

586
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: would be very hard for me for my confidence and

587
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: just like an a wave of emotions. So I do

588
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: feel like you have come across very genuine and like

589
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: you really care for other people and other people's feelings.

590
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: And I do believe that you guys had a complicated,

591
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: very layered situation for your relationship that you're both doing

592
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: a good job of navigating to the best of your ability.

593
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I have one more hard question. So you mentioned

594
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: that you usually, yeah, go for frat boys, or frat

595
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: boys go for you, and then you have this mature,

596
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: go looking guy that wants you. It's like it's kind

597
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: of perfect scenario. But do you feel yourself more in

598
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: love with the idea of someone like Blake opposed to

599
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: maybe him as a person.

600
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: That is a hard question. Wow, Joe, you're really you're

601
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: really heart balling just today, you know.

602
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: Just no, I'm just like, because you didn't. I'm just

603
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: curious because no, No. But I do think it's confusing

604
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: as far as like you have this this new thing

605
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: that you that you've always thought you want it right

606
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: you you want to be in a serious relationship, you

607
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: want to get engaged, you want to get married. You

608
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: want the guy that you meet to be mature, and

609
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: you feel like you have that, but in the same breath,

610
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: there's still a part of you that's like, I'm why

611
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: am I not all in? Right? So I guess that's

612
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: that's where I'm going with you.

613
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: Your question is does he fit the checklist? But you

614
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: don't find it.

615
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: You know. It's something that I was learning, which is

616
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: you can have a great person in front of you,

617
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: but it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the best

618
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: person for you. And I think for me, like I

619
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: was trying to figure out, like, yes, I have this

620
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: great man in front of me. I knew I could

621
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: hear my mom and my grandma in my ear being

622
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: like obsessed with him and like so excited for me

623
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: to bring him home. But it's like I think a

624
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: lot of people look at this situation and blame my

625
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: age for why I wasn't all in, But I need

626
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many factors, and like, I'm not

627
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: someone that's just going to date someone to date them,

628
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Like I'm going to date with the perspective of getting

629
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: married and having a future with that person, and what

630
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: do we like? Yes on paper everything Blake offers is great,

631
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: but like, is that for me?

632
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: And am I for him?

633
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: And so the idea of him him, it's not in

634
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: the idea him itself. He is great, but like, are

635
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: we on the same.

636
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Page in life? And that's what I was struggling with.

637
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Is that the answer to your question?

638
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is. And the reason I asked it,

639
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's a very im mature answer. And

640
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: the reason I asked is because I do feel like

641
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: that happens a lot, like in the dating world, where

642
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: it's like you have this checklist, you have what you want,

643
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily your person, and I think a

644
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of people end up falling for that because that

645
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: person fits their checklist and then it's and then you

646
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: down the road, it's like, damn, this wasn't this wasn't

647
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: my person?

648
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree with you, But yeah, looking or

649
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: film moment over here, Wow, you're proud of yourself right now,

650
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: aren't you. We're looking forward to seeing more of you

651
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: and Blake and everyone on this beach. It's been a

652
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: really good season and we'll yeah, we're rooting for you, Jass.

653
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: We hope it all turns out. No matter how it

654
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: turns out. We hope that you're happy with it.

655
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: You want to play a little quick We'll play a

656
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: little quick rapid fire questions, and then we'll get you

657
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: out of here.

658
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: It's all fun, easy questions. So doctor pill is.

659
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Podcast okay? Are you more of

660
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: an introvert or extrovert?

661
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I think the show would think I'm an introvert, but

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Speaker 3: I'm actually an extrovert.

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Speaker 1: So cool. What would you What would be your go

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Speaker 1: to paradise cocktail.

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Speaker 2: Strawberry mohita with whip cream on top.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, I love that.

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Speaker 1: What is the first thing you would buy if you

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Speaker 1: won the lottery?

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Speaker 3: I feel like, besides donating to a charity, I would maybe.

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Speaker 2: Buy my mom a car.

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Speaker 1: What is one item on your bucket list?

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Speaker 2: Great white cage?

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Speaker 4: Jesus, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: I would not want to do that, but I respect it.

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Speaker 1: What is your favorite Taylor Swift song?

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Speaker 2: New Romantics?

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Speaker 1: Do you know that one? If you're not that you're swifty?

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Speaker 4: I'm a Taylor Swift fan, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't categorize myself as swifty. I would need to

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Speaker 4: do a lot more that mainstream.

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Speaker 2: So that's it's that's kind of That's why I like it.

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Speaker 1: So what is your favorite dessert?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Maybe ice cream.

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Speaker 1: What is the most important item you packed for paradise

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Speaker 1: litter litter? What moment from Paradise so far has made

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Speaker 1: you laugh the hardest?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I was crying more

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Speaker 2: than I was laughing. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how about cringe the hardest ringe?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even remember.

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Speaker 3: I maybe maybe just it's like, okay, probably telling boys

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Speaker 3: that I'm bloated, Like that was pretty like that?

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Speaker 4: So wait, did you make a TikTok about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I feel like I thought that was very fine.

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Speaker 2: I like to self deprecate. I always laugh at myself,

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Speaker 2: so I'm like, it's fine, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, Jess, thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, and sorry I had to ask you

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Speaker 1: tough questions.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, what it was good. I feel like it

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Speaker 4: gives us and our listeners and the viewers just way

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Speaker 4: more insight into the nuances of your relationship.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, appreciate it, and thank you everyone for

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Speaker 1: tuning in. And remember all new episodes of Bachelor in

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Speaker 1: Paradise here every Thursday on ABC at nine to eighth Central,

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Speaker 1: following The Golden Bachelor, or you could stream both shows

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Speaker 1: the next day on Hulu.

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Speaker 4: And make sure to tune into new episodes of Bachelor

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Speaker 4: Happy Hour every week. We're gonna have some great guests,

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Speaker 4: so we've got all kinds of exclusive interviews coming up,

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Speaker 4: so don't forget to subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone, and see you next time.

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Speaker 3: Bye,