1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast. 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: I'm Josh Pate. It is Tuesday morning ish, it is. 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Certainly March second, the year of world OWD twenty twenty one. 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Got a loaded show, got a lot of housekeeping notes 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: to get to. 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: Right off the top, let's remind you how this works. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: It's Q and a wall to wall unless there's a 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: rare exception, which there may be in a week or two, 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: and I'll let you know about that in probably about 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: two minutes. Josh pat seven zero six at gmail dot com. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: That's one way that you can submit a question or 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: just a good faith comment. The second way is follow 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Late Kick Josh. And remember there's 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: incentive there. Every thousand followers that we hit on Twitter, 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: there is incentive which I'm also going to get to 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: and probably about forty five seconds. This is a tough 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: timeline to stick to. So thank you so much for 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: tuning in what I was talking about. You know what, 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: forget forty five seconds. Let's talk about it now. What 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: I was talking about and what we have been teasing 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks now is every thousand and 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: followers we get to a nice even thousand mark on Twitter. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: I think thirteen thousand was the most recent that we 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: climbed over. We're gonna do something really fun, and so 26 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: I told you it's coming in. Now it's here. Here 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: are the details. I'm going to share this on probably 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Late Kick Live Thursday night. I'll also put it out 29 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter at some point, and I'll share it on 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the Thursday podcast. But you're here now so you get 31 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: an early head start. We're doing a very interactive zoom 32 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: recording next week that will be turned into a show 33 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: that will be put on the YouTube channel. It'll also 34 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: be turned into probably Thursday's edition of this podcast, so 35 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: you'll hear it. And so here's what I want from 36 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: you if you want to be a part of that, 37 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: if you want to get in on it, it's going 38 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: to be it's gonna be very interactive. It's gonna be conversational, 39 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Q and A. So it'll sound kind 40 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: of like what we do on every Late Kick Extra podcast, 41 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: except you'll be tossing me things instead of me just 42 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: reading things that you've emailed or you've DMed me. If 43 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: you want in on this, email me Josh Pate seven 44 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com. I can't guarantee everyone's 45 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: going to get on it because I know we're gonna 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: get hundreds of submissions, but we're going I'm working with 47 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: producer Jordan now, we're trying to nail down the parameters 48 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: and what the process is gonna be. He's gonna be 49 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: our esteemed moderator. He'll probably have video off because as usual, 50 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: well we don't believe in the production crew showing their faces. 51 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: That's how Colin, That's how director Colin has become such 52 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: an enigma on Latekick Live, and he prefers it that way. 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, here's how it's gonna work. You email me 54 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com. You 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: let me know you want your name basically inserted into 56 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: this little quasi lottery we're gonna do, and we will 57 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: take your name, We'll write it on a piece of paper. 58 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 2: We'll put it in a bin over here. 59 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: After the Thursday Latekick Live, so probably Friday sometime, we 60 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: will give that bin. We'll give the hopper a big spin. 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: We will draw I don't know how many names out. 62 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be in the double digits, but I don't 63 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: know how many names exactly we've landed on. Yep, we 64 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: will draw names out and we will let you know accordingly, 65 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: and then we'll send you a date a time we 66 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: think we're going to record this Monday night, so a 67 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: week from yesterday. 68 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: If you're listening on Tuesday, Monday night. 69 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: If you got a normal job, like no one here 70 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: at twenty four to seven has, If you got a 71 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: normal job and you just work nine to five, we're 72 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: gonna give you time, so we're not gonna do it 73 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. We're also not gonna 74 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: do it at midnight, so it'll it'll work out for 75 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: you schedule wise. But again, email me and we will 76 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: get your name in there. And you got a few 77 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: days left, but don't put it off. And you know, 78 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: it wouldn't hurt to sell yourself a little bit, wouldn't 79 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: hurt to give a pitch, maybe one or two sentences 80 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: why I should be included in the es of now 81 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: yet to be named Late Cake Zoom Special Extravaganza whatever 82 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: whatever that could be the name. 83 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Actually, we'll see how marketing feels about that. So that's 84 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: out of the way. Now. 85 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Another thing that's going on is I uh here I'll 86 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: let you listen to it. 87 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, obviously that's just shound on an apple. 88 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm spitting all over my windscreen right now. So we 89 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: get done with the podcast. The other day, it's really 90 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: hard to talking to you these things. Well, you can 91 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: done with the podcast early day, and producer Jordan says, hey, 92 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I got a tip for you. 93 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: I'll say, hey, I'm all ears. What is it? He says, 94 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: I want you to go buy some apples. 95 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I want you to eat them here, tell me to 96 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: do it on air. But he said, this is gonna 97 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: help with your positives. Now, what positives are, as you 98 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: noticed if you've listened to this podcast, is anytime I 99 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: pronounce a P or a T, or you know, anytime 100 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: I have to close my lips and it pops this windscreen, 101 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: or if i've you know, if I open and close 102 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: my mouth. Hey, sometimes the Lord made some of us 103 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: in such a way that it just makes a sound. 104 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: No, I contend, as I get done chewing this, I contend. 105 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: That that's just the way that I've been created, and 106 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: it is what it is, and we're gonna have to 107 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: deal with it. If some of you walk away, I 108 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: can't blame you, because, hey, I can't stand that sound either. 109 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: But some of you walk away, some of you walk away. 110 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: But producer Jordan says, no, no, If you just go 111 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: to Public's for sixty eight cents, they're gonna be able 112 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: to sell you a device, also naturally created that will 113 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: help you alleviate those problems. 114 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: So I'll tell you this, friends, I just bit into 115 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: that apple. You heard it right here. I would not lie, 116 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: and I just chewed it up. 117 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: So now we're gonna see, because you're gonna be able 118 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: to tell better than I whether that worked and whether 119 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: we can still hear any kind of these ridiculous mouth 120 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: sounds that apparently only I make and none of the. 121 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: Rest of the folks in this business have ever had 122 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: to deal with. And the way I. 123 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Basically look at it is like this back in the 124 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: day when I first got into TV and they told 125 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: me that they were going to expect me to wear 126 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: makeup on air because I had a shiny forehead. 127 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: I still do. For the record. 128 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: If all I have to do to make it in 129 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: the podcasting world is lead an apple, which I should 130 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: be doing anyway, according to my doctor, I'm good with it. 131 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: So we'll see a little test run this morning, but 132 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: we've also got some really good questions this morning, and 133 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 1: we will waste no further time. 134 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: Let's dive in. Matthew has a couple of them. 135 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Actually, actually I think Matthew has about five, but they're 136 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: all in one submission. Very smart on his part, so 137 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: let me just go in order here. His first question 138 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: is how impactful do you think athletic directors are to 139 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: football programs? My answer there, Matthew, would be somewhat too 140 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: very impactful. Obviously, most of the time your athletic director 141 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: has made the head coaching higher. Sometimes you'll get a 142 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: situation where a head coach will be there and then 143 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: the ad comes in, but most of the time it's 144 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: the opposite. So they are obviously directly tasked with either 145 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: themselves hiring the head coach or putting together the search 146 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: committee that's going to hire the head coach. But the 147 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: most important role of any athletic director these days is 148 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: fundraising and overseeing the fundraising operations and mechanisms they're under 149 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and where that really comes into play for a football fan, 150 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: even though you don't see it happening unless you're rich, 151 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: in which case they're hitting you up on the regular 152 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: to get money out of your pocket. Where you finally 153 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: see it is, for instance, twenty four to seven sports 154 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: are Brad Crawford. I know he's been working on his 155 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: annual top twenty five facilities list in college football? Well, 156 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: how in the world do you think those things get built? 157 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: They get built because you build them. You guys build them. 158 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: It's not an AD or a coach that builds them. 159 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: You build them because you give money to help them 160 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: be built. And so that's the first thing that you 161 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: eventually notice, even if you don't immediately notice it. The 162 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: second thing is when you have a head coach, even 163 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: if you have the right one, he's gonna ask for 164 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: certain resources. He's going to ask for an increase in 165 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the recruiting budget. No coach has ever asked for the 166 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: recruiting budget to be slashed. No coach has ever gone 167 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: to his AD and said, you know, Steve, Jeff, Bob, whatever, 168 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: I got too many coaches on this staff. We have 169 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: too big an analyst and support staff. I don't think 170 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: I need five on my nutrition staff. Maybe three, you'll 171 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: do well. That never happens. It happens in the reverse order. 172 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: So how creative can you get with budget? 173 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: How convincing. 174 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Can you be sometimes with your university overlords who have 175 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: to approve such things in some places, you know, maybe 176 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: in the SEC they don't have to have those conversations. 177 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: It's basically whatever head coach says, that's what he's going 178 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: to get as long as he's producing on the field. 179 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: But Matthew, I don't know what part of the country 180 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: you're in, but I know that if you're on the 181 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: West Coast, or maybe you're in the Midwest, or maybe 182 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: you know you're in some portions of the Big Ten, 183 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: there may be a lot more treacherous waters to navigate, 184 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: let's say, to get some of the things approved that 185 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: are an afterthought if you're the idiot South Carolina, or 186 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: if you're the idiot LSU and so, Yeah, ad is 187 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: very important. I think it's disproportionately important to have a 188 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: great one the higher up on the food chain you get, 189 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: because the higher up on the food chain you get, 190 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: obviously the higher the stakes, the bigger the money, the 191 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: more plentiful the resources. But also you can fail spectacularly 192 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: on that level too. Everyone gets to that level and 193 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: wants to succeed on a grand scale. 194 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: Well that, yeah, that could happen. 195 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: But I want you to look at the University of 196 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee right now, and I want you to think about 197 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: how many resources they have and how big a mess 198 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Tennessee has been. And that falls on not one person, 199 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: It falls on a lot of people. But ultimately, what 200 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: do you remember? You remember the head coach if you're 201 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: an outsider, and Tennessee fans remember the head coaches and 202 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: the athletic directors, and how even with all of these 203 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: resources that we gave them that were at their disposal, 204 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: they screwed it up. So very important, Matthew, he says, 205 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: also following up as a side note, I'm a Western 206 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: Kentucky and Alabama fan, so I guess he did tell 207 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: us where he's from. Thank you, Matthew, he said. For 208 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky, our ad has done a lot to schedule 209 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: big names and get our name out there. Do you 210 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: feel that behind the scenes that's the work of a 211 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: great coach or a great ad. 212 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: You might not know much. 213 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: About Western Kentucky, but thank you for the answers either way. Well, 214 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: I think in an ideal world, Matthew, the answer is 215 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: it's the work of both. It's a combined for it 216 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't know many successful programs out there where the 217 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: head coach is not at the very least consulted about 218 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: scheduling practices. He may not have the final stamp of approval. 219 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: At some places they do, but he may not have that. 220 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: But at least you want to ask what's our overall 221 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: strategy here? 222 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: You got to know where you're going. 223 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: And again, if you're if you're Western Kentucky, that's even 224 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: more important because this is not a blue blood Tier 225 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: one program, it's not even a Power five program. But 226 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: yet you have aspirations and you have certain goals that 227 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: you want to meet. They may not match Oklahoma, but 228 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: you have your own goals in your own world that 229 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: you want to meet. Well, how do you best achieve 230 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: those goals? How do you best put yourself in a position. 231 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: Do you want to play a few of those big 232 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: paycheck games. Do you want to just schedule a bunch 233 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: of cream puffs in your own out of conference that 234 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: you can beat? Do you best fund your athletic department? 235 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: And do you best fund your mechanism by doing it 236 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: that way? I'd say for the Western Kentucky's of the world, 237 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: the answer really takes care of itself. When you realize 238 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: what you have to have to win and what you 239 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: have to have to operate, and that's money. And the 240 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: best way in this sport, or one of them, anyway 241 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: to get that money is to go play Alabama, is 242 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: to go play Georgia, is to go play Kentucky whoever 243 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: it's going. 244 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: To be, and make sure you get that paycheck. But 245 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: also what it does is it lets your. 246 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Kids compete on a national level. Absolutely lets them get exposure. 247 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: It's also something I've noticed in the past when I've 248 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: been around some guys. I've been around guys recruited by 249 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky, actually a couple of them, And I know 250 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: that part of the pitch when those coaches came into 251 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Harris County High School to recruit back in the day, 252 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: was here is our schedule over the next four years. Now, 253 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: you may not be getting an offer from Alabama, but 254 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, if you'll look at two 255 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: thousand and nine or twenty twelve, or whatever the case 256 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: may have been, we're going to play them. So at 257 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: the very least you're going to get to go play there. Also, 258 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: if they're recruiting West Central Georgia, they could tell family 259 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: We're going to play a couple of out of conference 260 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: games over the next few years that are within a 261 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: three hour driveable radius of your current home. So those 262 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of other reasons why you schedule up, 263 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: but the main reason you schedule up is for the money. 264 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: And I certainly think that it pays off in the 265 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: long run to be aggressive. I don't think any program 266 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: has been disproportionately negatively impacted now. I think you can 267 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: look at some new Mexico state schedules of years past, 268 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: for example, and look at it and. 269 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Say that's a death wish. 270 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you whoever made this schedule is very, 271 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: very glad they don't have to get on the field 272 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: and actually play this schedule. But those extreme examples notwithstanding, Yeah, 273 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a really good idea and it's something 274 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: that's decided between ad and head coach. And Matthew's last 275 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: question was, well, actually it was his first question, but 276 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: I pushed it. 277 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: At number three. 278 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: He said, what are your rankings of favorite football or 279 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: sports movies? Now, I don't have a comprehensive list in 280 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: front of me, so I'm not going to even try 281 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: to go down it. There are going to be glaring 282 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: omissions here. I'm not even gonna fill out of top five. 283 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: I have told you before, and I will reiterate because 284 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: nothing has changed. My favorite movie, sports or otherwise of 285 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: all time is Field of Dreams. That's not touchable. The 286 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: second thing that I will tell you is Celtic Pride 287 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: is the most underrated sports movie of all time. 288 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 2: I think a lot of you have probably seen that. 289 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: When it's got Marv from Home Alone, which I think 290 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: his name is Daniel Stern, that's got Damon Wayans who 291 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: stars for the Utah Jazz in that movie. It's also 292 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: got Dan Acord. It's really really funny. I mean it's 293 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: really good. It's a Judd Appatole movie. 294 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: It's really funny. 295 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: It's like mid nineties I want to say, ninety five 296 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: or ninety six, somewhere around there. So those are two 297 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: sports movies that I want to have mentioned. The third 298 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: one I want to land on to get back to 299 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: football is Remember the Titans is a great movie. Remember 300 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: the Titans has always been a great movie. Remember the 301 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Titans has become one of those movies. By the way, 302 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: if you've noticed in your social circle that for someone 303 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: who wants to sound really advanced and intellectually. 304 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: Superior and cool. 305 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: They'll start to nitpick and they'll start to chisel away 306 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: at the inaccuracies. Historically, I remember The Titans. When you 307 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: realize you have a friend like that, here's what you 308 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: want to do. You want to lean back and you 309 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: want to. 310 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: Go Okay, well, this has been fun, I'll see you later. 311 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: Guys, Let's head out to the parking lot, get your keys, 312 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: start gathering your things, and then everyone gets in their car. 313 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: They all crank it up. Let your friend be the 314 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: first to back out and drive away. And then once 315 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: his tail lights have faded on the horizon, then everyone 316 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: turned their car off, lock it, go back inside, grab 317 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: some refreshments, make the popcorn, and then the rest of 318 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: you who understand it's a Disney movie and it doesn't 319 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: have to be shot for shot from what happened forty 320 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: or fifty years ago, can enjoy one of the greatest 321 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: movies of all time. I have no clue why people 322 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: have to do that, and I am very salty about it, 323 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: because I was just listening to something this past week 324 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: wherein some people remember The Titans was exactly what it 325 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: should have been for him, And then there was this 326 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: other person. Yet it's great, but if you've read the 327 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Wikipedia page, it's not exactly. 328 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: How it happened. 329 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: This is probably the same crowd who would tell you 330 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: pro wrestling's fake, but yet would never watch Olympic or 331 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: amateur wrestling on TV because they realized sometimes building characters 332 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: and constructing story arcs, it can lend itself to some 333 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: very very entertaining and quality programming. And you don't have 334 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: to sacrifice the overall message. You don't have to sacrifice 335 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: any of the overall themes. So that is why I 336 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: think Remember the Titans is a great movie. Had to 337 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: get that off my chest. I'm glad, Matthew, you gave 338 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: me an opportunity to this morning. 339 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: All right. 340 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Next up, we have a submission from a coach. Actually, 341 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: so I got to keep it anonymous because of the question. 342 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: You'll see why in just a second. The coach says, 343 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: this may be the only time in history this happen 344 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: in football. But I was talking to one of our 345 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: freshmen who just enrolled early at fill in the blank, 346 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: and he was explaining how the coaches thought it was 347 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: better for him to start learning the system now and 348 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: go through spring ball than to play his senior year 349 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: of high school this spring. This is an area where 350 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: high school football was obviously pushed to the spring. So 351 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: essentially we have a kid in rolling early, and because 352 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: he's enrolling early, and this is the one time in 353 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: history the high school season got pushed to spring, the 354 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: college staff wants him to be on campus and early 355 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: enroll and go through their spring practice instead of his 356 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: senior year of football. So we continue here, having covered 357 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: high school football as long as you did. What do 358 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: you think about this in terms of player development? Well, 359 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: for the first thing I think is I'm glad that 360 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: hopefully this is a one time deal. The second thing is, 361 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: I think it has to be treated case to case 362 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: because depending on the program you're going to and the 363 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: program you're coming from at the high school level, chances 364 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: are when it comes to player development, you are getting 365 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: better player development at the college level. The second and 366 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: more important follow up question there is which experience is more? 367 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you I don't necessarily care what people 368 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: think it may do to your freshman year in college. 369 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up my senior year of high school football. 370 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: That's just me. 371 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: It could be that the kid we're talking about here 372 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: wasn't even particularly interested in playing his senior year in spring, 373 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: or maybe he does value the early college experience more 374 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: than the high school experience. 375 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: That's fine, but I just know that I hear a 376 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: lot of folks. I hear folks by. 377 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: The dozen, dozens and dozens and dozens talk about memories 378 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: from their senior year of high school. I don't hear 379 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: many of them tell this fond of stories about their 380 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: freshman year in college. And so I would go senior 381 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: year in high school. But strictly from a player development standpoint, 382 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: if that's all that matters, Yeah, I think the college, 383 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: especially if. 384 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: You're going to a legit one, and he is. 385 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: I can tell you by looking at the fill in 386 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: the blank here player development, you'll be fine. The other 387 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: side to this question that sometimes we run into is 388 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: sometimes a kid is playing let's say his senior year 389 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: of baseball, or let's just say he's a senior in 390 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: high school period. 391 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: This used to be a big talking point. 392 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: I remember when the Advent of the Earth early in 393 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: rollie started to become really popular, and it was only 394 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: a few few kids who would be your early enrollies 395 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: and your signing class. You were lucky if you had 396 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: two or three of them that were going to be 397 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: early in rolllies. Well, now a vast majority of your 398 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: signing class is enrolling early and they're not taking part 399 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: in their second semester of their senior year of high school. Well, 400 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: I remember back in the day, and this was not 401 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: all that long ago where coaches had to really ride 402 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: the fence on what they were going to suggest a 403 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: kid do. Did they want to encourage him to try 404 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: and graduate early and enroll early so they could get 405 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: him in spring practice of his freshman year, or did 406 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: they want him to stay in high school and play 407 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: maybe baseball, or go to your prom and do all the. 408 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Things that you would do as a normal kid. Well, 409 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: now it's an afterthought. No one talks about that anymore. 410 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: So fortunately, this situation where you have spring football to 411 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: worry about balancing, that's not going to be an issue. 412 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Spring football at high school level, I'm in, that's not 413 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: going to be an issue hopefully beyond this year. 414 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: Christian is talking about something this morning. 415 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: That many many of you talk about, and it doesn't 416 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: have to do with Alabama or Clemson or Ohio State. 417 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: But what it has to do with is. 418 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: That next group, and out of that next group, who's 419 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: going to be the. 420 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: First one to win a national championship? 421 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: And I got a probably three strong thoughts on this, 422 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: and I'll deliver them right after this. So Christian's basic 423 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: question here is which team out of the regulars is 424 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: going to be the next to win a national championship. 425 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: LSU did it in twenty nineteen, so we see you 426 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: don't even have to have previously been considered a bona 427 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: fide Tier one team in order to pop up and 428 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: win a championship. 429 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: So who's it going to be? 430 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Well, obviously we push Obama Clemson out of this discussion. 431 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: We don't really push Ohio State out. They haven't won 432 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: one since twenty fourteen. But for the purposes of this conversation, 433 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to push them out because I think they 434 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: would be the obvious answer. So outside of Ohio State, 435 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: the next obvious answer for me would be Oklahoma. And 436 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: some of you could argue, okay, well, if you push 437 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: them out, who's it going to be? And I think 438 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: that's fair. So my answer would be Oklahoma. If we're 439 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: pushing them out, Georgia is the next answer. And I'm 440 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: just going down the list of who checks all the 441 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: boxes for me? Who checks all the critical factor boxes? 442 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: I guess would be a better way to put it. 443 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: And that's roster, that's quarterback, that is coaching staff, that schedule, 444 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that's critical depth. Georgia has all that. Oklahoma has all that. Obviously, 445 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: the other big boys have all that, and then behind Georgia. 446 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: So if we put them off to the side, Oklahoma 447 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: Georgia are both out of the way, where are we going? Well, 448 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: at that point, I would either look at Texas A 449 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: and M, or I would look at North Carolina. Now 450 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: neither of those right this second checks every single box. 451 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: I think A and M is probably closer. But here's 452 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: what North Carolina has. North Carolina has quarterback figured out. 453 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina is rapidly figuring out if they haven't already. Recruiting. 454 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: I was talking to Steve Wolfong this morning. In fact, 455 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm we are talking Wilfong and I about taking one 456 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 1: of our lay Cack Extra podcasts next week and just 457 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: going hardcore in recruiting. And I'm not just talking about 458 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: here's this name, here's a four star receiver from Virginia Beach, 459 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: and here's where he's leaning talking about recruiting the way 460 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: that you would probably prefer to hear it, and it 461 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: would appeal to a broader audience. Talking about overarching themes, 462 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: some behind the scenes stuff, the real dirt on what happens, and. 463 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: That's sort of deal. That's the side point. 464 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: But I was talking to Wilfong this morning and we 465 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: were talking about North Carolina and it's this evergreen question 466 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: lately of who's going to challenge Clemson. Well, North Carolina's 467 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: biting Clemson's ankle a little bit right now. They almost 468 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: beat them two years ago on the field. That wouldn't 469 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: be unprecedented. Clemson has suffered upsets before and gone on 470 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: to win a championship. In the twenty sixteen year, they 471 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: think they lost a pit and won a championship, so 472 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: it can be done. But what North Carolina's also done 473 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: is ever since mac Brown walked in the door, I 474 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: felt like they refused to fall in line with the 475 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: rest of the acc They refused to take a number. 476 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: As I've put it, they refused to just know their role. 477 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: They've looked around and said, why is no one else, 478 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Why is no one even trying to eat the buffet 479 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: lines open? 480 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: Everyone's got a tray in their hand. 481 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: No one's trying to eat, So they just hopped right 482 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: to the front of the line and they're right there. 483 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: And so they're taking some shots at Clemson. Clemson is 484 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: gonna always win their fair share on the re fruiting trail. 485 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: But North Carolina has done a lot. 486 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: Better job here. 487 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: They got a couple of kids in this cycle right 488 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: now that they're really pushing for. So I say all 489 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: that to say, they've already got quarterback figured out. They've 490 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: got Sam Howell, They're right now one of the best 491 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in America this year. You've also got Drake may 492 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: on campus, your quarterback of the future. That's such a 493 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: luxury to have that figured out, because the rest of 494 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: your rosters dominoes tend to fall in place, the rest 495 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: of your recruiting plan tends to fall in place. And 496 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: here's the other added benefit that people are not talking 497 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: about yet with North Carolina, but they will. This has 498 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: always been a place that coaches wanted a reason to 499 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: go to. But to this point, up until recently, if 500 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: you were a true A list coach, you could not 501 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: justifiably look at North Carolina and say, all right, I'll 502 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: consider them, right along with an offer from LSU and 503 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: an offer from Oklahoma and an offer from Michigan. But 504 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: now you can because they're taking football seriously right now 505 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: and they're a player, and you can do everything you 506 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: need to do at North Carolina. You also get a 507 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: great quality of life. You get to be in a 508 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: great community. It's a great program, it's a great fan base. 509 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: So you get the positives that you used to not 510 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: be able to get. But really no negatives have come 511 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: along with it. Like North Carolina's not looked at as 512 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: some like Mercenary Outpost. This is a place that's very 513 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: desirable and if you're a basketball guy, you've always wanted 514 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: to go there. Well, now if you're a football guy, 515 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: you can go there too. And so that's what mac 516 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: Brown's done. That's why I'm believe in the future of 517 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: that program. But going back to Texas A and M, 518 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I think Texas A and M the answer there is 519 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: obvious because they have started to check a lot of 520 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: the boxes I already mentioned. You've got the staff, like 521 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: you got the roster, you've built or are building, the 522 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: critical depth. The quarterback box is a big box that 523 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: they haven't really checked yet. But then again, we may 524 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: be seeing a different tune when it comes to quarterback 525 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: in Texas, A and m after a spring practice much 526 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: less fall camp. So yeah, I believe in the future 527 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: of those two programs as well. And I'm really interested 528 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: to see what Miami does this year. 529 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: I'm not putting him in. 530 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Championship conversation or anything like that. I'm really interested to 531 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: see what kind of step they can take. I'm really 532 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: interested to see what kind of step Mike Norvell and 533 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: FSU can take. And I know conspicuous in their absence 534 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: in this answer is Florida. I'm not ready to put 535 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: Florida that conversation right now. Florida is not far away, certainly, 536 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: but I always worry and will as long as the 537 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: recruiting apparatus is the way it is at Florida, I'm 538 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: always gonna worry. The ceiling on the program under Dan 539 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: Mullen is below championship caliber levels, which is weird because 540 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: it feels like the Flora there is seven and five, 541 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: eight and four of the absolute worst case, and so 542 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: if you normally got an eight and four worst case, 543 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: you're a championship caliber program. But yet I also think 544 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: the ceiling on Florida. There's just not a lot of variation. 545 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: I guess I just feel like Florida right now they 546 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: are who they are, and who they are is a 547 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: really really good program. But they even last year had 548 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: quarterback figured out, but we still saw there was a 549 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: ceiling on the team because the problem is with Florida 550 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: as the way they're currently constructed, showing up with their 551 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: C plus game, they can't win even against LSU. 552 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: They couldn't win last year. 553 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: And you got to be able, maybe not at a 554 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: C plus, but if you show up with your B 555 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: minus game, you got to have a roster that's good 556 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: enough to just will yourself to an ugly victory. 557 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: That sometimes is the difference. 558 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Between going nine and three and you know, being eleven 559 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: and one and going to play for a conference championship 560 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: and all that good stuff that may come along with it. 561 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: So I would go Oklahoma, Georgia there, and if we're 562 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: excluding them, give me a M and give me North 563 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: Carolina with with by the way, Oregon being the next 564 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: team on that list. 565 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: I didn't want to leave the duck Sudt. 566 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: I meant to talk like five minutes on him and 567 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: I did five seconds instead. 568 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: All right, we got meetings going on. I got to 569 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: cut it e just a little bit short this morning. 570 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: I will make this up to you. 571 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: Don't worry, and hey, I'm really going to make it 572 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: up to you when you get to run the show 573 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: and we get to go as long as you want to. 574 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: So remember joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot com 575 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: or on Twitter at late Kick Josh. Start submitting your 576 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: names to be put in the first ever I Guess 577 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: Late Kick lottery for next week's Zoom special and we'll 578 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: find a nice fancy name for that, probably put a 579 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: graphic together, and we'll be ready to go. So we're 580 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: gonna do that Monday. We've got a week. Don't worry though, 581 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: but also don't wait. Get your name in for producer 582 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Jordan who donated the apple that I am not done 583 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: eating yet. I'm Josh Pate. Thank you so much for 584 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: listening this morning. I have a great rest of your 585 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: day and God bless