1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to a brand spank and new 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinal Territory. Met Holiday and Lancelin are out 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: doing what wealthy folks doing their free time. But I'm here. 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm Jim Hayes. Kyle Gibson is here and we have 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: a special guest, Ryan Helsley, joins Cardinal Territory today. 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: Hello, Ryan, what's up? 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on, and yeah, welcome. 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: My first question is this, It's great to see you. 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 2: By the way, you set. 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Records as the closer with the Cardinals, right, and you 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: go to New York Trade and you're the setup guy 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: and suddenly the role that you've flourished and set the 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: franchise record for saves is changed. So my question is 14 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: how much of an impact did that have on what 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: happened in New York. 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, you know I got traded in New York. 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Going into it, I knew I was wasn't gonna be 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: the closer, you know, to have a guy there who's 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: been pretty stinging good his whole career too, and you know, 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: has a lot of talent and had a great year, 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: and so I knew I was gonna kind of be 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: a guy in that sixth seventh eighth inning slot. And 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, had a great conversation with Mindy when I 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: got there and the coaching staff, and you know, so 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: I know my role was. It's a little bit of adjustment, 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, figuring out your new you know, time slots 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 3: to get ready and things like that. But uh, you know, overall, 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: I felt I felt great there, and you know, the 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: coaching staff was great, and you know, my time there 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: was good. As a player, you know, I could have 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: done some things a little better, but uh, you know, 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: I enjoyed my time there with the coaching staff and 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: the players. 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: Hell's getting traded in the middle of the season, did it? 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: Twenty one? Traded to a contender, right, you know, traded 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: to Philly. We're trying to make the playoffs. And I 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 4: know the tough thing for me was I had a 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: couple of stars where I threw well, but really down 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: the stretch, I didn't throw how I wanted to throw. 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: And it's frustrating. Right, you get brought to a team 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: and you're this guy that's hopefully going to make a difference. 42 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: How'd that wear on you? How did you deal with it? 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 4: And I know the guys are greater that. I'm sure. 44 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: I know Jeremy Helfner, he's a stud. But you know, 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: how is overall that transition to a new team, because 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 4: I know, you know, in our conversations in twenty four, 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: you know, I think we were hoping that Ryan Helsley 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: was a Cardinals whole career, right, So you know, how 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: how was that transition and and you know how is 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: that time with Heffner and those guys. 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I for sure wanted to be a 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: Cardinal the whole time I was there. That's all I 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: ever knew. You know, I was there parts of eleven years, 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: you know, seven years in the big leagues and four 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: years in the minor leagues, and you know, there's I've 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: had a lot of trade talks about my career there, 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: and you know where we were currently at before the 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: trade downline, you know, just felt that that's what the 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 3: Cardinals were going to do. So I think I saw 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: the riding on the wall, you know, like it wasn't 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: a total shop and I got traded. So I think 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: that helped. But you know, being there in New York, 63 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: the guys there, you know, had had a lot of 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: fun and like you said, trying to you know, make 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: a difference. You know, I don't know that I put 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: any more pressure on myself, but I definitely expected a 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: lot more of myself, you know while I was there, 68 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: and you know, felt felt good. You know, I was healthy. 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: Just obviously the results for bad. You know, started out 70 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: good and had a tough four to five week stretch 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: there and end of the year pretty well. But yeah, 72 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 3: it's just it's just a weird feeling being on such 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: a good team, you know, and you're making a push, 74 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: and you know, that's probably the most talent I've I've 75 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: had on a team, you know, top to bottom, especially 76 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: in a bullpen. You know, I was I was the 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: youngest guy in the bullpen, which is crazy to say. 78 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: I've never seen it. You know, I was really thirty 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: thirty one years old, and I think I was the 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: youngest guy in the bullpen. So we had a super 81 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: vet bullpen, you know, guys that pitched in a World 82 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: Series and all this and that. So that was cool 83 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: to learn from those guys, and you know, see baseball 84 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: through a different lens. And you know, such a big 85 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: market in New York, and I mean the fans were great, 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: you know, they're super dedicated they're probably a lot like 87 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: Philly fans as you know, you've you've experienced that, you 88 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: know n L East rivalry and the crowds there, and 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: you know it'll be it'll be exciting to see what 90 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: they do this year. And but overall, you know, I 91 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: really enjoyed my time there. 92 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: Huge. Well, Jim, Jim, you told me I'm asking questions today, 93 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: all right. 94 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: You know we're going back and forth. 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, go ahead, Jim, Yeah you're fine. No, you go, 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: you go go uh the real quick and then I'll 97 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 4: let Jim ask a question. Tell me about the different 98 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: What do you like about New York? I mean, obviously 99 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: you've been there multiple times, but you know, how do 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: you how did you get acclimated? What do you and 101 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: the family do you know? I'm I'm a big fan 102 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: of a pizza place over there in Brooklyn that's a 103 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: little bit closer to Queens. But tell me tell me 104 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: what you guys did and how'd you like that? 105 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did ever get to make it over there. 106 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 3: I really tried, but traffic in New York a different beast. 107 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: And you know, we only had a couple off days 108 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: while I was there, and I think only had like 109 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: one off day while we were at home. But yeah, 110 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: the traffic in New York is definitely makes you think 111 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: twice about your plans every day, you know, especially on 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: an off day. You're like, I'm gonna spend half my 113 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: day trying to get here and get there. And you know, 114 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: we lived out on Long Island near Garden City and 115 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: it wasn't too bad. It's definitely different, you know, a 116 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: lot different than Saint Louis. And you know, I think 117 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 3: overall that, you know, if we were to be able 118 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: to pick a place to live, you know, for a 119 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: full season, you know, getting traded during the middle of 120 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: year and trying to find a place to live is 121 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: just so hectic and it's really hard when you have 122 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: a family and you got to I mean you've experienced, 123 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: like you got to move everything, and you know, it's 124 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: just there's so many things that people don't think about 125 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: that you have to deal with, and you know, it's 126 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: it was just a hectic time. But I really enjoyed 127 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: it there. And you know, we had an off day 128 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: there and we took the family out to Central Park 129 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: and got to do some you know, blooey stuff for 130 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: the daughters. And I think my oldest daughter. She got 131 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: to go to Danny go. She got to watch him 132 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: in concert. You know, I think they skipped the game 133 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: one day game, went and watched Danny go downtown in Manhattan. 134 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: So my daughter loved the city. You know. She every 135 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: time she'd see the skyline, she's like, we're going to 136 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: the city. So she she had a blast. And you know, overall, 137 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: I think our experience is pretty good. Yeah. 138 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: No, I have a two part question. 139 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: I say two to let's two questions. 140 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: Okay, that's about right. 141 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Yle Kyle Gibson as a teammate, was he as bossy 142 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: as he is as a member of this podcast? 143 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: Well, a teammate, no give you is one of my 144 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: I think favorite teammates of all time. And me and 145 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: Kyle on the road once we got to know each 146 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: other a little more because obviously we only played together 147 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: for one year. But you know, every day on the road, 148 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: unless one of us slept in, we'd go get coffee together, 149 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: we'd walk around whatever city we were in. So those 150 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: will be memories that I always hold on to. And 151 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: you know, something I tried to carry over you know, 152 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: this year, and so that's fun, you know, spending time 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: with your teammates and getting to know them, and you know, 154 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: you spend way more time with them than you do 155 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: with your families throughout the course of the years. So 156 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: just trying to build that bond, and you know, Gibby's 157 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: going to be up on my list for a long time. 158 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to stipulate that you guys are both pitchers, 159 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: and I'm a mediocre broadcaster that really doesn't understand the 160 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: nuances of this. 161 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: So help me with this if you would. 162 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: Ryan, Okay, I know from interviewing guys like Izzy over 163 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: the years that being a closer, there's a certain mental preparation. 164 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: There is a certain mentality that you have to have. 165 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: So my question to you is, I know you, and 166 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: I know you want to say all the right things, 167 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: but how much of a mental change did you have 168 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: to make going from the guy at the end of 169 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: the game, the guy who's going to get the ball 170 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to put the win in the win column, and then 171 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: transition that to being a setup guy where you're not 172 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: exactly sure you know when you're coming in. How much 173 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: of a mental change should you have to make? 174 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a lot different, you know, like you're 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: so as a closer. Kind of weird to say, but 176 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: throughout the season you're so routine oriented. You know, you 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: have everything you do inning by inning, you know, you 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: start doing Like for me, I would go to the 179 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: training room as soon as the game started, and innings 180 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: one through four, I was doing all my prep in 181 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: there and try to get to the bullpen by the 182 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: fifth inning, you know, sit there for one inning. Sixth inning, 183 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: I'm starting my stretch routine with the therair gun. Seventh inning, 184 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm doing movements, you know. Eighth inning, I'm doing my band. 185 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: So like you have your so regimen as a closer, 186 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: and I think that helps you kind of get locked 187 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: in and keep your focus, you know, because as a closer, 188 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, your role is really defined, and I'm either 189 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: throwing if the game's tied, or for up by three, 190 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: you know, maybe four if I haven't pitched in a 191 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 3: few days. But as a setup guy, it's like, you know, 192 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: I could throw the fifth or sixth. I might get 193 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: hot twice today and maybe we go up by five 194 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: or sixth and the ninth and now I have the ninth, 195 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: you know. So it's definitely a lot different and there's 196 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: a lot more, you know, peaks and valleys out there, 197 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: I think as a setup guy. And you know, with 198 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: my time in New York, it not that I forgot 199 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: what a setup guy was like, but it made me 200 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: have more of an appreciation for what those guys do 201 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: day in and day out and kind of what they 202 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: deal with on a daily basis. And you know, just 203 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: constantly having to stay ready and you know, be ready 204 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: for when the phone rings. But I think, you know, 205 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: that's also a fun part of it, is kind of 206 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: always living life on the edge. You know, you're just 207 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 3: you know, sitting there itching ready for a moment's notice 208 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: and you hear your name, you know, and you shoot up. 209 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: And but it's definitely it's definitely a lot different going 210 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: from that closure role to you know, being a guy 211 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: that could throw from innings five through nine. 212 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 4: You know, all right, so Jim's gonna ask all the 213 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: baseball questions, you know, just typically guy here trying to 214 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: get baseball inside. What the that's perfect great timing. What's 215 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: the coffee you got this morning? What's your coffee spot? 216 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: You're on the West coast right now, you know, where'd 217 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: you go this morning? Because like Hell said, you know, 218 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: we we did a lot of coffee runs in the morning, 219 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: kind of getting our day started. And definitely some of 220 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: my favorite times in my career from twenty twenty four 221 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 4: was was doing that and finding those coffee shops. So 222 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: where'd you go this morning? And what's getting ready for 223 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: this golf match? 224 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: So this is called a place called Fairgrounds. It's up 225 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: here in Beverly Hills. It's pretty good. I think it's 226 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: more of I don't really know like my roast yet. 227 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: It tastes a little darker. I just know if I 228 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: like it, if it tastes good, you know, it's a 229 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: solid I'll give it like an eight out of ten. 230 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: Not my favorite, but it's getting the job done, you know. 231 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, what the I'm thinking with the quad 232 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: shot here, Gibby got me on that. Used to be 233 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: a flavored guy, you know, get some vanilla surf from there. 234 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: But you know, I grew up a little bit and 235 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: leaned myself off all the flavorings and sugars, so enjoying 236 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 3: the coffee flavor a little bit. 237 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: You know, it does happen everybody. Everybody grows up at 238 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: some point else and then you start, you know, drinking 239 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: your straight gasoline in the morning. So that's good fair ground. 240 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: That's a unique name. I like that. I like that. 241 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: And what was so in your time in New York? 242 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: You know, we went to a couple but we were 243 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: in uh, you know, we were more in the city. 244 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: What are those spots that you found where you guys lived. 245 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: Did you find a good one? 246 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we would go to play I think it was 247 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: what was the place we went to? 248 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: Common grounds or common grounds? Yeah, there's the one thing 249 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: of Black Fox as well in New York then. 250 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, we went to the common grounds. It was 251 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: south of Garden City. 252 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: Cool. 253 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: So every every morning we do that and go find 254 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: a playground, you know, for the girls to play on 255 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: and just go out of the house and spend some 256 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: family time together. But you know, when I got to 257 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: New York, I think my cafe and then take like Triple Dude. 258 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: They had they. 259 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: Hadn't but. 260 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: They had the law Marzaco. You've seen that brand, right, 261 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: like all the coffee brands, the Italian brand. So they 262 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: had the really nice like home set of in the 263 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: weight room and they traveled with one on the road. 264 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: So it was like you just had the best coffee 265 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: at your fingertips all day long. 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That's Square dot Com 293 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: slash Go slash foul to learn more. 294 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: Back with Cardinal Territory. 295 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: Our guest is Ryan Helsley, and since I have control, 296 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to fire out a quick question here. Ryan, 297 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: you're a free agent. Now, what's that process like for you? Like, 298 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: how does that work? Does your agent like give you 299 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: updates at getting a nibble here? How does that work? 300 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: And what's it been like for you? 301 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty pretty surreal to be here, you know, 302 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: I know it's a blessing and not a whole lot 303 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: of players get to experience free agency, you know. So 304 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: I'm definitely excited and you know, thankful, and you know, 305 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: my agents will text me, you know, every other day, 306 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: maybe because I think the GM meetings are going on 307 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: right now. So talks and stuff have picked up a 308 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: little bit, and you know, I like to I've called 309 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: it windows shopping so far, you know, it's like, you know, 310 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: teams will say they like you, and but there's no 311 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: there's hasn't been you know, real numbers talk or anything 312 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: like that yet, which you know, I think that obviously 313 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: pick up you know, as the off season goes on. 314 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: And but overall, it's it's pretty cool, you know, it's 315 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: it's a it's crazy to be here in this moment, 316 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, to be here seven years down the road 317 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: and you know, have an opportunity to you know, hopefully 318 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to pick pick where you play, and 319 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: you know, have multiple options. 320 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: What uh. You know one thing that Brian Doser told 321 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: me kind of going into my last year in Minnesota, 322 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: he had just become a free agent. He's like, Gibby, 323 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: don't be afraid of free agency, like, you know, enjoy 324 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: the process. Take it in. I was fortunate to go 325 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: through it a few times. How how are you and 326 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: the family dealing with it? You know, what are the conversations? 327 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: You don't have to let us in on all of it, obviously, 328 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: but you know, it is an exciting time. But I mean, 329 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: I know, especially for me last year a little bit, 330 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: you know, it's set in as time went on and 331 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: I didn't have a job, It's like, man, all right, 332 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: maybe this is maybe this is it now. Obviously you're 333 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: not going to be in that situation. But you know, 334 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: are you guys kind of just waiting on a little 335 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: bit of you know, what are these opportunities or or 336 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: do you guys kind of have you know, those talks 337 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: of man, we'd really like to be here with that group. 338 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's natural to want to be somewhere, 339 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: but I also think, you know, for me, I'm trying 340 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: to go into it as open minded and like willing 341 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: to play anywhere, you know, so you're not like, you know, 342 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: just hardened if you don't go to the place you 343 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: want to go to, so to say. So really just 344 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: going into as an open mind, you know. And it's 345 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: an exciting time and you know a lot of a 346 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: lot of teams that are looking for back end guys 347 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: or bigger market teams. So you know, I think a 348 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: lot of that stuff is exciting and appealing to my 349 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: my wife and daughter who loved the Big Apple City 350 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: she called it in New York. So but selfishly, you know, 351 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,479 Speaker 3: I'd love to stay close to home, you know, like Texas, 352 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: maybe Reunion with the Cardinals, you know, Kansas City, just 353 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: because I have a lot of family members who like 354 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: to travel, and obviously the further you are away from Oklahoma, 355 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: it's a little harder to travel and a little more 356 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: expensive than driving. So but obviously I'm open to playing, 357 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: you know, anywhere, and you know, I just want to compete. 358 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: Are you Are you hoping that the Cardinals come and 359 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: call him? 360 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: By the way the kids say, they call it getting 361 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: the bag, so wherever you end up, you're getting the band. 362 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: But are you hopeful? 363 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: Jim? I apologize he does this to Lance and Matt 364 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: and sometimes me more of those guys because they have 365 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: a bigger bag than I have, so I mean they 366 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: he does this to everybody every show. So I apologize 367 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: that he does this, all right, go ahead. 368 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Because because I'm because I'm I'm I'm jealous. But is 369 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: that is that in your mind a h a re 370 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: possible reality that the Cardinals start, as you say, windows shopping, 371 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: maybe kicking the tires on a return. 372 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 3: I think I would expect them to reach out, you know, 373 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: I think I don't know if it'll be you know, serious, 374 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: but maybe to check in and you know, kind of 375 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: gauge the waters, so to speak. And you know, I 376 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: had a good talk with him after I was I 377 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: was traded, and you know it was really encouraging the 378 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: possibly maybe you know, coming back there, and you know, 379 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: obviously things changed. That was three months ago, but you know, 380 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: you know, I really enjoyed my time getting to know 381 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: how m a little bit and think that the Cardinal's 382 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: future is in really good hands with him. 383 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: So let's let's dive into some of that Cardinals time, right. 384 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: You know, it says Cardinals territory, So I guess you know, 385 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: Jim probably wouldn't be too happy if we don't bring 386 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: up the Cardinals other than possibly coming back. But you know, 387 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: what were some of those moments with the Cardinals of standout? 388 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean you, like you said, seven seasons, sub three 389 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 4: All Stars, I mean just just you accomplished just about everything, right, 390 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 4: So you know, tell us about that time in Saint Louis. 391 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 4: What are you gonna remember most if you know, for 392 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 4: any reason, you know that reunion doesn't happen at some 393 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: point in the future. 394 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think obviously, you know, my rookie year stands out. 395 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: You know. Obviously it's everything's so new that year, and 396 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: you know, we made it to the NLCS, so we 397 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: you know, made a deep playoff run. Obviously we got 398 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: swept by the Nats. But you know, we made the 399 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: playoffs my first four years and it's kind of crazy 400 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: as to play. You kind of take that for granted. 401 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes then when you don't make it a couple of times, 402 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: you realize how hard it really is to make the postseason, 403 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: even with so many teams getting in. Now, you know, 404 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: the league is just so competitive, and you know, I 405 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: think the talent gap is probably the smallest it's ever been, 406 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: and it's just you know, things like that, you know, 407 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: make the game fun and making the playoffs is just 408 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: a surreal feeling. And you know, obviously I think twenty 409 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: two stands out was the first year I really kind 410 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: of stepped onto the scene and you know, pitched how 411 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: it wanted to and kind of became, you know, Ryan 412 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: Helsley to the baseball world, and you know, through immaculate 413 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 3: inning that year, got to play with Albert Yachti and WNO, 414 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: So that season is always super special, and you know, 415 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: we clinched the NL Central that year, and you know, 416 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: one of my favorite pictures was when we clinched in 417 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: Milwaukee with Wayno, Yachti and Alburt, you know, just kind 418 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: of the pillars of Cardinals baseball. The last twenty plus years, 419 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: and you know, guys, I grew up watching so that 420 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: you know, I felt like a kid in that moment 421 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 3: just to you know, and a fan, you know, being 422 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: a part of that team and you know, just getting 423 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: to sit there and you know, just kind of cherish 424 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: that and take it all in. And then, you know, 425 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: the longer you get to play, you know, it's like 426 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: you don't want to admit that you're getting older, that 427 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: old guy in the locker room, you know. But like 428 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: it's like every time you show up the spring, it's 429 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: like in twenty three like dang Yachti's not here, Albert's 430 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: not here, you know, and then twenty four, Wayno's not here. 431 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 3: So it was it's pretty crazy. And also the blessing 432 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: obviously the longer you play, but in twenty four is 433 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: obviously really special too, just you know, getting to pitch 434 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: all year and having forty nine saves and just being 435 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: a part of you know, such a story franchise with 436 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: so many good players, and you know there's a lot 437 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: in there to really take in and you know, to 438 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: hold on. 439 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: To Ryan by the way, great guy. I'm going to 440 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: tell you a little story. So I'm doing the postgame 441 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: interview for Hellsley. He gets to say it was like 442 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: save fourteen that season, and he's holding onto the ball 443 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking maybe it has some significance. So I 444 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: just said, Hey, does Eppe have some significance? He goes, no, 445 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm just holding it. He goes, you want to give it. 446 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: To your son so much. 447 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Son has saved fourteen one season for Ryan Helsley. But Ryan, 448 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: you're seeing Kyle Gibson shine right now as a host 449 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: because he's asking questions probably better than me. 450 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: So kudos to you. 451 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: But this is where skill comes into play. 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With Ryan Helsley, right, I 490 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: want to ask you, like when you got traded, right, 491 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals put stock on a lot of the young 492 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: guys in the bullpen. You know them very well, guys 493 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: like Swanson, Leahey, you know O'Brien really really good of course, Jojo. 494 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: I want to ask you particularly about like Swawnson who 495 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: became dominant. Did you know that these guys were ready 496 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: to take the next step back when you were part 497 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: of the team. 498 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I met Swanson in twenty three when I 499 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: was rehabbing in Springfield and he'd just goten traded over 500 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: from I believe the Blue Jays, you know, and I 501 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: knew I saw him then. He was a big kid 502 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: and kind of funky, you know, and you know, kind 503 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: of a steep approach, it seemed like, with the heavy sinker. 504 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 3: And you know, he obviously threw hard, and he had 505 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: a great year last year in Double A. You know, 506 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 3: I think he led the league and with saves with that, 507 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: and you know, the stuff was there he saw as 508 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: soon as he came up, you know, throwing ninety seven 509 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: ninety eight and with two really good auscy pitches, and 510 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: you know he tacked his own well all the things 511 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: you need to do as a bullpen guy, and you know, 512 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: just the way he carries himself. You know, you kind 513 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: of had the idea that this guy could you know, 514 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: be a contributor. And you know, I think they saw 515 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: that down the stretch this year. And you know, I 516 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: was always a big believer in Riley O'Brien, you know, 517 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: seeing him last year too. I know in twenty four 518 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: he didn't pitch how he wanted to, but you know, 519 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: I'd always tell the coaching staff like, this guy's gonna 520 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: be good, you know, just give him some time. And 521 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: you know, you see it with all players, you know, 522 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: not everybody makes that leap or figures it out, you know, 523 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: as fast as they want to or as quick as 524 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: everybody thinks they should. But you know, I think he 525 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: figured it out a little bit this year, and you know, 526 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: saw what he was capable of, and you know, JoJo's 527 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 3: had a great year. We know what he's capable of, 528 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: and you know, I think it was cool to watch 529 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: Kyle really flourish this year. And you know, I don't 530 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: think he gets enough credit for what he really did, 531 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: with how many different roles and situations he pitched in 532 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: and played. And you know, like I said earlier, it's 533 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: hard not knowing when you're gonna throw. And he would 534 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: throw one any one night, you know, up in the 535 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: eighth by one, or throw four the next day down 536 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: by seven. You know, So just having that wide range 537 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: and to be able to pitch and compete and get 538 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: the results that he did this year, you know, hats 539 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 3: off to him, and I think it's something he could 540 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 3: be proud of and you know, build off of. 541 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: We've talked a few times on here over the last 542 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 4: couple of weeks just about you know, what the Cardinals 543 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: might do and what that looks like in him's first year. 544 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: But you know, one thing that I brought up is 545 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: preventing runs is always less expensive than scoring runs, right, 546 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: So in a bullpen can be a big part of that. 547 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: And you know, in twenty twenty four, that bullpen that 548 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: we had was one of the main reasons, if not 549 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 4: the reason, that we were in playoff contention for so long. 550 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: So in that bullpen that they see that they have now, 551 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: you know, with your we'll just assume you're not there. 552 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 4: You know, who's that guy that kind of steps up 553 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: as that veteran leadership because I feel like you, Kittridge, 554 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: you guys had some guys down there in twenty four 555 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: that really led that group, and then you led that 556 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 4: group you know, last year until the trade deadline. But 557 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: who are those guys that can kind of step into 558 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 4: that role assuming they don't bring somebody in and keep 559 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: that to be a strength of this year's team. 560 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think we see how teams use 561 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: bullpens now, and you know, most good teams, I feel like, 562 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: have you know, two closers, so to call it, especially 563 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. You know, you see how quick triggers 564 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: are for starters and you know, but for the Cardinals, 565 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: I think, you know, it's got to be Jojo And 566 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: even though Riley's a little less time wise in the 567 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: big leagues. You know, he's a little bit older and 568 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: seasoned as a baseball player. So I think those two 569 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: guys could be someone, you know, they could lead that 570 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: lead that bullpen. But I think the easy choice is Jojo, 571 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: just because he's he's been around so long and you 572 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: know his pitched well, you know his whole career, and 573 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: you know a lot of young guys are going to 574 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: get more opportunities there if they don't sign guys you 575 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: know which you know, I think it would be a 576 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: good thing to see, you know, what they have and 577 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 3: see what those guys are capable of at that level. 578 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: What what did Sorry, I'm stepping in here at Jim. 579 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: You did a two part earlier, so I'm gonna go 580 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: ahead and be back all up here, and then I 581 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: really want to ask that golf here. We're going to 582 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: run out of time with Ryan, but I really want 583 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 4: to know where he's golfing today. So this might be 584 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: the last question, Jim. 585 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: So you can do two parts. You can do two parts. 586 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks, thanks for that, you know, permission to do that. Riley, 587 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: what was what was a big shift that you saw 588 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: in Riley? You know when I was in with the 589 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 4: Rays kind of working back. You know, I saw him 590 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: throw against this. In my word, it was like it 591 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: was kind of a different guy. What what did you 592 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: see from him when he got back up there, and 593 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: what's going to make him so effective going forward? 594 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: You think, Yeah, I think just trusting his stuff in 595 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: the zone. You know, I think that's the hardest thing 596 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: to do in the big leagues, you know, even the 597 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: best guys to get out. You know, we talk about 598 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: all the time in pitches meetings it's seven out of 599 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: ten times, you know, first pitch strikes or you know 600 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: the key. And I think when he really bought into 601 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: just attacking guys and you know, trusting his stuff in 602 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: his zone is when he really saw a big jump. 603 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: And you know, confidence, as the picture, can take you 604 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: a long way, especially in the bullpen, good or bad, 605 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: you know, and when you have those bad games, it's 606 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, hard to sometimes get past those. And I 607 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: think when you rattle off a few good ones and 608 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: you can kind of see, like how how your success happens, 609 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: I think is a big way and a big contributor 610 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: to success overall for a player. And you know, I 611 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: think this year, you know, I would watch Cardinals games 612 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: when I left, and you know, he's pitching in close 613 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: games and you know, just like you said, look like 614 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 3: a completely different picture and confident, and you know, it's fun, 615 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: fun to watch guys, you know, make that leap and 616 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: you know, just to really compete out there and just 617 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: to lay it all on the line. 618 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: Ask about golf, Jim, Jim, go ahead, Oh did you 619 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 4: have another? You have another question? 620 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: Jim? 621 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: No, So I was gonna let you ask golf. 622 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: Then I was going to close out with one and 623 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: we'd wrap this whole puppy up. 624 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, great, So obviously, hell's you got a 625 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 4: You got the hat that has the upside down words 626 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: on it, so you're obviously going golfing. It says birdies 627 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: for those that can't read upside down. So uh, one, 628 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: hope you score a lot of birdies today. It'd be great. 629 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: Uh where are you going golfing? Tell us to tell 630 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: us the schedule. We already know that your cafeated ready 631 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: to go, But where are we going golfing today? 632 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I'm gonna go to bel Air today 633 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: to start off with, and then maybe try to sneak 634 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: on the LA Country Club as well, So. 635 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: Sure that's the place you can sneak on. So he 636 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: I wouldn't try to sneak on to LA Country Club. 637 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: We might pull some strings and get in. Uh that's 638 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: bad phrasing there. But yeah, I think today is going 639 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: to be complete golf, maybe thirty six holes and you know, 640 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: we'll see if we can't score some birdies. 641 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 642 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna do what Kyle was doing early. 643 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: This isn't a baseball related question. By the way, Kyle, 644 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: you were great. He also he's the guy that booked 645 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Elsley for today, So kudos to Kyle Gibson. But we're 646 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: talking about LA right now. We're talking about the big Apple. 647 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I want to know what you miss about Saint Louis. 648 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 649 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: I think I just always explained to people it kind 650 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 3: of feels like home for me. You know, I grew 651 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: up in a small town and you know, you grow 652 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: up there and and get there at the twenty, you know, 653 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 3: four year old kid, and you know I left at 654 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: thirty one. So what you a lot and seeing a 655 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: lot there and it just feels like a big farm 656 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: town to me. You know, there's not much traffic, really, 657 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: you know it just everything's kind of spread out and 658 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: easy going. It's just a slower pace of life. And 659 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: you know, that just just felt like home to me 660 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: and what I was used to and what I knew. 661 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: The people are great, the fans are great. You know, 662 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: it's just it's a hard place not to like. Honestly, Kyle, 663 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: you were great. Appreciate it. 664 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Helsley, thank you for for for joining us. Hopefully 665 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: you have a very happy landing spot as free agency 666 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: comes to a close for you. And that's gonna do 667 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: it for this edition of Cardinal Territory. 668 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. Hopefully that edition won't suck.