WEBVTT - Selects: How Fever Dreams Work 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.920 Hey, everybody, Happy Saturday. It's Chuck here and I'm here 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.520 to deliver to you my pick for this week's Selects episode. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.840 This is from July twenty seventeen. It's the episode how 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.640 Fever Dreams Work. And quite honestly, you guys have picked 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.520 this one because I don't remember much about it, so 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.480 I'm going to listen to it all over again myself, 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.159 so I hope you do as well. Hope you have 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.200 a great Saturday and a great weekend. Here we go 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:31.159 with How Fever Dreams Work. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:36.000 a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.280 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. How are you? I'm 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.720 Josh Clark, There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry. Jerry's 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.080 got a salad. Everything's normal, which means it's time. There's 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:50.920 stuff you should know. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:52.760 That's right. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.880 Jerry's got this Shwarma special. She said, oh really, yeah, 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:02.520 she loves it. How you doing, good man? Feeling despite 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.080 myself kind of relaxed. Okay, I'm not feeling feverish. If 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.160 that's what you're driving at. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:08.640 No, that's not what I was driving at. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.280 Uh yeah, no I'm not. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:12.160 Do you get fevers a lot. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.240 No, not anymore, although I haven't for a long time. Like, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.160 I've never been like a fever person. I've probably had 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.280 like a handful maybe. How many fevers have you had? 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.920 Not a ton since I was a kid. Yeah, not 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.759 a lot of adult fevers, right, I. 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:32.320 Mean I've had like hip hop fever. I've had rock 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:33.039 and roll fever. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:34.199 Yeah, yellow fever. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.199 I've had a fever for a flavor of a brindle. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:38.639 Oh man, me too. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.000 What are those? Those aren't even potato chips, are they? 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.319 They're potato crisps, and those are good. They're mashed together 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:45.279 potato parts. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.000 I don't think I want to know how those are made. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.400 No, it's like chicken McNuggets. 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.640 I think a unicorn just poops them out. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.640 Have you seen unicorn pizza? It's a little much. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:56.520 What is it? 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.600 There's a restaurant in New York, I'm not quite sure where, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:05.000 maybe east Side. They have unicorn pizza. It's like dough, okay, good, start, 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:12.320 like a nice pastel colored frosting instead of sauce, a 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.840 mound of cotton candy nerds or pop rocks maybe, oh 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:21.040 good lord, and then some other stuff. Supposedly, it tastes 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.919 kind of good. I'll eat anything that has enough frosting 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:24.240 on it. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.840 I like frosting, but I'm not into like sugary candies really. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.880 Oh like nerds and pop rocks and stuff. You know, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.639 I did brain stuff once. I'm pop rocks and that 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:35.400 was interesting. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:36.040 Yeah. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.800 Yeah, your tongue actually warms the pop rocks to the 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.240 point where they melt. And since they have CO two 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.239 trapped inside during the manufacturing process, that CO two suddenly 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.639 is released in a. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.399 Pop so it's just a little bubble of CO two. Yeah, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:51.680 that's gotta be good for you. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.040 I'm sure. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:54.880 It's funny. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:59.440 My head of roommate in college, like, not many adults 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.320 eat candy, Like people eat chocolate and stuff like that, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.160 candy bars, but candy candy and an adults. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.600 Is just a little strange anything. Yeah, do be candy? 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:15.119 Sure? Like what mentos? Not mint mentos? Like candy mentos? 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:16.360 I like those. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:17.160 Well. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.320 I had a roommate that would go to the convenience 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.959 store next and this is college granted, but he still 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.400 eats this stuff, I think, okay, And he would go 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:29.440 with like fifteen dollars and buy you know, like giant 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.800 sweet tarts, you know, those big chewable ones, sure, and 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:38.280 like a fun dip and nerds and just all kinds 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:39.480 of candy fun dip. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.839 Remember liquam made there's the same thing. I think. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.720 Yeah, it's just a sugar sugar. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.880 Right, Like I don't have a foot, but I've got 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:52.000 my liquim maide, Oh man, can you can? You guys 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.400 out there and podcast Lantel were stalling because we are 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.240 a big time because we happen upon a topic that 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:05.280 no one really knows what's what. Yeah, I mean we're 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:10.040 talking about fever dreams. We know about fevers, yep, kind 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.280 of know about dreams. Yeah, but apparently no one's really 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:19.120 gotten to work on figuring out what fever dreams themselves are. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.080 So it's largely anecdotal. Yeah, so you're gonna have to 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:23.640 bear with us. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.600 We'll leave it. We'll leave that there for now. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.400 Yeah, but I guess a good place to start is 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.919 by talking about both those things separately and starting with fevers. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.599 You know, you've always heard ninety eight point six fahrenheit 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:45.080 is the normal internal body temperature of human that in 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.120 ninety two there was a big study that said is 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.880 really ninety eight point two depending on like how old 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.279 you are, what time of day it is, where you're doing, 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.040 where you if you put it in your butt or 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.520 in your under your armpit, or in your mouth or in. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.520 Your ear or all of them at once. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.160 That'd be something else. Yeah, it can vary a little bit. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.880 So I think there's a bit of a slight sliding 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.200 scale to that number. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.760 Yeah, for sure. But I think the key is is 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.960 it's going to be roughly around there. And even if 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.200 you have an average body temperature that's not exactly ninety 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.920 eight point six, let's say you typically tend toward ninety 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.120 seven point. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:25.559 Five, you run cooler. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.640 Yeah, yeah, your body temperature still during the average day 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.560 gonna fluctuate plus or minus about a degree farent hide 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.120 either way. Yeah. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.880 So I looked a little bit into the ninety eight 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.200 point six and the original dude that came up with 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.839 that was a German physician. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:46.920 Named Carl Reinhold August Vondelich. It was good, a good one. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.479 When eighteen sixty eight he wrote a book, Well he 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.240 did his studies where he had this temperature rod he 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.120 would stick under the armpits of all these people. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.200 He's like, where do you want exactly? 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:03.040 And everyone once said, everyone always says, do you know 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:08.760 the comedian Rory Scovel? No, he should just check him out. 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.000 Okay, he does these weird things, like he'll just do 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.279 his whole routine with a German accent. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.040 Okay, like for no reason whatsoever. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:17.360 I like the sound of that. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:22.480 And he did one about stealing old people, like kidnapping 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.080 old people for the German accent. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:26.760 He's from South Carolina, I think. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.600 But he's done shows with like a severe Southern accent 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.640 and one just normal accent, and he'll do a German thing. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:34.919 He just likes semester with people. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:35.920 I guess. So he's great. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:36.720 I will check him out. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:37.920 Thinks he's one of my favorites. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:43.160 So anyway, eighteen sixty eight he wrote a book called 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:49.400 after these experiments, called dos Vehauten Eerkin Frauma and kink 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:49.960 and Heighten. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.239 That is good and I looked at it. It's funny. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.359 The real translation I think of that as on the 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.760 temperature in diseases, but if you type it into Google 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:03.080 Translate comes out as the behavior of the intrinsically warm 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:04.200 and sick units. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:08.280 That's the subtitle. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:09.680 Yeah. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.320 Yeah, So anyway, he's a guy that came up in 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.720 ninety eight point six, and that stood for a long time. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.000 But that's just so that was just based on his observations, 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.640 his study, and it's stuck. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.840 It was an average. It wasn't like this is what 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.640 you should be. It was just the average of all 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:24.560 these people. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:29.000 Right, And then one hundred thirty years later we finally 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.760 got around to verifying whether that was actually true or not. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.920 Well, I mean, it says in ninety two that they 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.960 said it was ninety eight point two from another study, 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.000 but then everything I still read says ninety eight point six. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.000 So all right, well, I know what you're talking about, 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.880 though I had heard in the last few years that 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.240 they're like that ninety eight point six Chazz is kind 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.360 of kind of made up. So the point is is 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.640 that your body's going to be roughly somewhere around there, right, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.600 that's your normal body temperature, yes, and then depending on 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.200 the time of day, it's either going to be a 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.320 little cooler in that or a little warmer than that. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:05.400 And our body temperature is regulated by something called the hypothalamus. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.800 And like I said, depending on the time of day, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.920 your body temperature is going to fluctuate, and that's tied 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.560 to sleep apparently, so as your body temperature is rising, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.320 usually in the late afternoon is about where it peaks 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:22.440 during the day. That's associated with wakefulness. Alertness not necessarily 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.160 just having a high body temperature, but an incline in 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.240 the temperature in your body means you're awake, you're alert, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.000 you're ready to go, right yeah, ready for action. Once 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.760 it starts to decline, that's associated with drowsiness and it 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:44.280 hits it's it's trough. Your body temperatures at its lowest 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.600 right about before you wake up, and that's actually associated 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.480 with r EM sleep. Yeah, so there are some stuff 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.800 starting to come out. Just bear with us, everybody. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:55.400 We're laying the groundwork. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.400 So your body temperature changes, the hypothalamus is directing the 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.280 whole thing, and sleep and wakefulness has something to do. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.760 It's related to your body temperature changes. All right, good night. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:10.640 You take it from here. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.280 Well, you know what, let's take a break because I'm 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:14.240 not sure where i should go. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:40.040 We'll be right back. Okay, I was being coy. You 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.160 set the stage very nicely. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:42.960 Okay. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:49.240 So if your body gets let's say, some bad bacteria 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.880 gets in it, yeah, and your body is alerted, warning 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.920 intruder is coming. Your immune system kicks in the gear 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:03.880 and art's producing this biochemical material called a pyrogen. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.400 Okay, this is my new favorite thing the body does. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.200 Oh yeah, yeah, Well you knew that before, right, or 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.560 did you just not know the mechanism. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.080 I mean I knew humans get fevers, and I knew 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.640 the fever was to kind of like cook out everything. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.240 I didn't understand the mechanism. I answer your question, Well 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.040 take this part then, oh yeah, kind I yeah. So 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:31.160 these pyrogens, right, they are these biochemical markers that are 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.400 released by the immune system in the body. Or and 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.040 this is why I love this. There's some bacteria, some 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:42.160 pathogens that make humans sick that produce pyrogens naturally. So 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.080 when they show up, they just start releasing the me 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.320 and they just give themselves away. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.880 Yeah, it's they're big dummies in that way. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.480 Right, They're like, hey, where's the party? They kick open 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.600 the door. They're carrying like a pony keg under one arm, 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.120 their gut sticking out. It's just that's that's like that 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.280 kind of bacteria, right, uh huh. So the pyrogens enter 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.599 the bloodstream, they travel to the hypothalamus, because remember the 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:10.640 hypothalamus controls your your body temperature. And this is what 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.960 they do, Chuck, are you ready for what the pyrogens do. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:13.439 Yes. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:20.400 They go to your hypothalmis and they dampen the heat 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.640 sensing neurons in the hypothalamus and they excite the cold 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.560 sensing neurons in your hypothalmis, and they trick your hypothalamis 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.960 into thinking your body's suddenly gotten very very cold. Yeah, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.440 so that your hypothalamus turns the temperature up and says, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.319 don't let any of this heat out. We gotta warm 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.199 back up. It tricks your body, your hypothomis, and in 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.000 creating a fever. 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:42.640 That's right. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.640 And they do this because well, they don't do this 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.960 because but what happens from there? They do this because 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.920 they're dumb. But what happens from there is, like you said, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.920 the fever, what a fever is, and why you want 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.880 that fever for at least a little while. Fever that 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.400 it does, it's it's trying to cook and burn and 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.880 bake that bacteria until it dies. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:04.240 Right. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.840 It is your body's fighting. Like when you hear, you know, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.080 like your fever broke, that's usually a good sign. That 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.120 means yeah, right, that your fever did its job and 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.920 it's cooked all that bacteria up, and you're going. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.400 To be on the men soon. Yeah. So basically that's 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.679 what's happening. And this is the great thing about a fever. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.600 But you know, fever makes you feel like crap because 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.880 it's a lot of hard work to kill all those things. 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.360 Well it is. There's a lot of your sympathetic nervous 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.840 system is kicked into high gear, which I found out 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.480 is one reason why they say you want to feed 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.800 a cold starve a fever because you don't want to 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:46.440 introduce digestion because it requires the parasympathetic nervous system right right, 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.040 fight or flight, and you don't want those two things 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.120 going on while your body has a fever. It's just 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.440 a lot of extra work for it. Right. But one 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.960 of the things that is going on when your body 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.000 has a fever, when that temperature rises, it's hard enough 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.440 on your organs, but it's also hard on the level 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.200 just the fact that they're operating outside of their normal 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.200 operating temperature. Yeah, and that makes it very hard on 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.520 them and can actually cook some of the ingredients inside 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:14.199 your cells. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:14.560 Yeah. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.560 I mean it's like working in a too hot of 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.760 an environment. It's just never fun for anyone, right, although 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.120 I got some people love that stuff. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.480 Yeah, but they're still they might like it, but they 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:25.800 still aren't working fast. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:26.720 Yeah, that's true. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.920 You know, they might be happy, but they're slow. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.080 So if you have a fever, what's considered a fever 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.360 now in twenty seventeen, If you're an adult and your 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.800 oral temperature is above one hundred point four, or if 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.040 you're rectal or ear temperature is above one oh one, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:48.480 then that's considered a fever. If your kid, good luck 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.320 getting anything besides the rectal temperature because. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:51.720 It's just tough. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.640 You have basically no right. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.520 Well, yeah, which you have as wiggly kids who aren't like, sure, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.840 stick something in my ear for force second. Yeah, but 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.040 up the up the kazoo. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.760 There's not really anything they can do about that. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.920 All they can do is say glavin. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.600 Yeah exactly. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.240 So the rectal temperature for a kid above one hundred 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.800 point four, and with adults like you don't have to 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.800 really worry about your fever too much. If it tops 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.360 one hundred and five for you know, any period of time, 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.760 you probably want to do something about that. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.920 That's what I saw was one hundred and five degree 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.760 farenthype mark was about where you should start to work. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.080 Yeah, as an adult, and you're going to feel so awful. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.440 If your tempera is one oh five, you've probably already 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.120 been to a doctor at that point, let's hope. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.000 So for kids it's different though. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.800 If you don't want to let your child get up 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.360 to one o five, that's bad, bad, bad. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.360 So what is it for kids that you really want 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:49.200 to start worrying about? 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.680 Did you say, Oh, you know what, I'm not exactly sure. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.120 I mean, it probably depends on whether you're a first 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.280 time pairing or this is your second. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.720 Yeah, well, and it varies with the age. It's like 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.240 zero to eighteen months. It's something. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.960 And I guess you like what you should do is 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.320 go consult your doctor. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:07.280 Yeah exactly. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.240 But you know, any kind of temperature you should for 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.040 a child, you should kind of be a little more 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:12.920 alert about. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.360 Right. But we're not in medical experts here. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.320 No we're not. And everything we're saying assumes that you 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:18.560 have healthcare coverage. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:24.320 That's right, all right, So that's fever in general. You 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.280 got anything else on that? 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:30.320 Yeah? One other thing. The the pyrogen's. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.480 Piro by the way, it's no mistake. Man, I did 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:35.640 have some coincidence. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.800 No, it's not. What is it Latin for fire? Greek 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:45.480 word for fire? Yeah, Piro eat def Leppard. Right, great song, 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.960 it really is, all right the whole album album. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:48.560 Yeah. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.520 Yeah. They just mentioned it in Rock of Ages. Yeah, 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:52.400 it comes up. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.440 They should have a song called Pyromania wonderful. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.880 But that's pretty cool. It's like the antithesis of your band, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.640 your album, and your song all being the same name. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.280 Like Big Country. Oh I love that song, sure, but 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.880 it's pretty uncreative. But you're basically saying, like, here's our 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.320 basket and we're gonna put every egg we have into it. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.200 It's the one one thing we came up with. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:18.880 Yeah. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.400 I saw David Spade bit once and he was talking 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.760 about He's complaining it wasn't even comedy. He was just 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.960 complaining that he went and saw a Big Country and 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.120 they didn't play the song Big Country. Now. Yeah. Really, 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.760 He's like, it's the name of your band, It's the 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.280 one song everybody came to see and they play it. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:36.080 He's funny too. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.000 Well. The long, the long and short of it is 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:40.840 is I totally forgot what the other thing I had 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.920 to say about pirate tins was, so I'll probably think 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:48.120 of it. Oh, I know what it was pyrogens. As 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.240 your immune system grows in ages and you become a 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.320 grown up, the pyrogens have a little less of an 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.480 effect on you. So where if you're a kid and 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.880 your immune system is young and inexperienced, your fever's gonna 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:03.400 shoot up quick, and it's going to it's gonna get 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.360 hotter faster. So you do want to stay on top 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.679 of a kid's fever because their immune system is not 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.920 used to pyrogens coming and messing with their hypothalamus, making 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:12.719 adults it is. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.640 Yeah, it'll spike much faster. That's a good point. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:15.919 That's what I was trying to think of. 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:17.920 Yeah, that's true. You need to take that. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.879 You need to take that rectal temperature way more than 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:23.639 you're comfortable with. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.040 I don't recall that ever having been done to me. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:30.360 Well, because you don't remember being a baby. No, But my. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.320 Parents were pretty strict, pretty stern. No. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.199 And by the time a kid is old enough to 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.280 where you can say like, hey, put this under your tongue, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.879 or hold still for a minute while I put this 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.879 in your ear. Yeah, but pre that when they're not 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:48.119 sentient humans, and they're just, you know, crying, whiny little 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:49.120 sacks of flesh. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:49.680 I got you. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.600 You got to stick it right up the butt. Okay, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:53.600 Harry's laughing. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.240 She almost spit out her schwarm of salad. 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.479 Harry's done plenty of that, so she knows. Okay, So 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.520 into dreams. I always think we've done a general show 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:06.200 on dreams. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.800 I think we did. Finally, I didn't find it. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.000 What still, No, I saw lucid dreaming. Can you control 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:13.560 your dreams? 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.040 That's the same thing, wasn't it. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.159 I think that was the maybe. Yeah, No, we did. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:21.080 One on dreams. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:22.199 I didn't see it. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.879 Wow, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Well, 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.800 this contributes to the little by little. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:31.280 Someone will know. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.159 Okay, Jill Hurley, where are you when we need you? 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.680 Our stattician Minister of stats? 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.880 Right, all right, Well we'll talk about. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.560 Dreams a bit here then, even though we've explained this 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:45.520 in various episodes here and there to some degree, but uh, dreams. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:50.800 You know, if you're a psychologist, you really love to 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.920 spend time talking and dissecting dreams, interpreting dreams. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:55.640 If you're a. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.760 More into the neurology side of some cis, you don't 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.840 really care about that kind of stuff. In fact, for 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.440 many years they thought it was called activation synthesis hypothesis, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:13.159 which was you go to sleep and all these synapses 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.959 are just randomly firing and they don't really add up 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.480 to even a story. You just do that when you 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.600 wake up because you're human. Yeah, but that, I mean, 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.120 that's complete bs. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.119 Well, you almost get the impression that they came up 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.800 with this and the neurologists came up with it to 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:33.040 stick out their territory. In response to years of psychoanalysts 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.520 saying this is what dreams are, right, like tapping into 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:44.240 the collective unconscious or your repressed memories, neuroscience said, no, nothing, Yeah, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.600 they're just your stupid wet brain going crazy while you sleep. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:50.840 Yeah, which we all know now is not true. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:55.679 I saw another one too, what's that threat simulation theory? 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:56.640 Have you heard of that one? 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.440 No, but that's a great band name. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.399 Basically, it's you're training to be a ninja while you sleep, 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:07.359