WEBVTT - Call on Me, Thick or Thin 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:07.440 Welcome, Welcome to J dot L, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:15.760 Hello, Hello, good people, this is uh, this. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.840 Is Joe Scott and you're listening to J dot L 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.160 the Podcast. You already know who I'm here with. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:28.240 The amazing, incredible Laiah Saint claud No you no you, 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:34.400 no you, no you, and the wonderful, brilliant age of 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:35.680 Graydon Danzler. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.519 All y'all, yes, that's all. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.440 All of us and everybody listening to, everybody listening to. 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.919 I just want to thank you so much for this 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:50.480 incredible season of J dot L the Podcast. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.400 We talked about so many things. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:59.880 Oh my goodness, the lists of life experiences and information 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:01.680 that we've been able to share with you. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:03.720 Some tears. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:12.280 Always, some hollering, keen, some beauty, some you know, some 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.840 living we've been doing, some living for real, Okay. So 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.280 many things have changed from when we started talking to 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.679 each other on this podcast to. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:29.000 Right now in this minute. So many things. Yeah, we 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:30.800 have lost some folks. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:32.039 We have. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:38.399 Watched some young people do amazing things around us and 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:44.240 in our families. We have checked ourselves, huh, like we 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.600 really checked ourselves in a lot of areas. We've been 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:53.840 really forthcoming and honest with ourselves in some ways that 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:59.800 were scary, in some ways that just ended up being empowering, 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:05.280 Like this is so turned fifty. We did Wow, we 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:11.119 did well. I did you know, like major major living, major. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:16.240 Life and oh my goodness. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.040 Yes, we got some fibroids out of there, twenty pounds 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:20.639 of fibroid. 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.120 I'm joking, but it was close. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.160 Major changes perrymnopause. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.120 Oh girl, yes, yes, shout out to extra Van thank you. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:33.960 Boo oh it's like that. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.280 Oh girl, Yeah, I've been I've been dry thanks to 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.280 huh oh blessings. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.080 Not everywhere. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.800 No, the face still, it goes through it when it 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.200 goes through it, but it's just less as long as 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.360 you can do less less less. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.800 Sweat, Yeah, that's sweat. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:49.480 Awesome. We're here. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:56.400 We're here just to get to the other side. You 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.000 feel me, yes, because sometimes we're like we're on a 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:01.640 we're literally on. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:06.160 A cliff sometimes and don't know what to do. What 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.400 you do? You jump forward? 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:09.440 You know? 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.840 Do you back up and then start running and soar? 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:17.360 You know, nobody has like real wings, but. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.320 Our spirits do a lot. Our spirits can take us 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:21.320 so many places. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:27.440 And when we add intention and uh, effort, like, man, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.800 we're powerful beings through COVID. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.280 Right, that was a lot. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:34.120 That was a lot. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.320 That was a lot. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.040 At first it was really really cute. You know, I'm like, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.160 about three weeks I get to be home. I'm a 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.280 litting about six months for me. I was just happy 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.440 to be home. And you know, you can talk to 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.960 your people, you go to see what they're doing. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:56.280 You know they home home, ain't got no fom, ain't 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:57.880 got no pomo because everybody inside. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:04.080 Yeah, right, you changed that changed, that changed that changed 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.760 to go back to word and then you had to 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.720 put off your tour and now you're back on tour. 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:17.520 Everyone on tour, everybody US twenty. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.159 Three put every single person that's physically able to be 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:20.640 on the. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.039 Roads on the road. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.400 I want to take this moment to thank the people 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.080 of America. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.560 I thank you because I want. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:31.400 To trying this summer. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.839 I don't know what y'all are selling on the black 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:35.880 market to go to. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.080 All of these shows. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.359 You appreciate you, thanks so much. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:45.159 With all your goddamn festivals, goddamn artists got how do so? 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.160 Thank you? The music helped y'all get through the pandemic. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:49.799 So you're welcome. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:53.520 Are you right? 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:53.800 Though? 0:04:54.600 --> 0:05:00.760 Seriously, you know, it's so much change you we are 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.440 on the precipice. It just feels and especially I tell 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.520 y'all before, like living on this West coast, honey, and 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.560 just feeling the tides they are changing, just at least 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.920 on the way we receive these stories. It's just it's 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.360 and the on the backs of mercury and retrograde. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.000 I know, you're ain't a thing, but it's just a lie. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:19.479 It's a change. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.240 It's a lot of people's thing though. You know, I'm 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:23.600 not trying to negate your thing. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.040 I just think, you know, when we're talking about astrology, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.120 I'm kind of like, there's so many factors that go 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:31.279 into making a person. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.719 You know, there's there's so many background You. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.520 Just don't like when people pigeonhole someone based on it, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.760 pigeonhole their own thinking, oh, you you were sanitaryus. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.640 Oh, I know how y'all are, Like. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.440 It'd be the same, but oh you're from North Philly. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:48.560 Oh, I know how y'all are. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.240 All right, But there is a little I know how 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:53.839 y'all are? 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.560 I mean, well, are you black? Though? 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.360 And there is a little truth to that, Like that's 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.720 sight so I'm just a little yes, yes, yes, some 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.080 commonalities don't test me. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.560 But it's that pigeonhole portion that I can do. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.520 Yeah, I get, I get, I get what your what 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.240 your issue is with it, and I get I think 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.080 it's just important for us to stay open because especially 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.680 if we're talking about change, because at the age that 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.920 I am now, I want to believe that I'm super 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:26.120 open to it. But after some further unpacking, I realized that, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:27.560 you know, I have to. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:28.719 Talk myself through change. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:34.040 Have I definitely have, you know, I have my fears 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.520 and my concerns and ways that I have to kind 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.800 of quiet myself and my spirit that I didn't exactly 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.120 know that about myself. Someone says, oh, you afraid to change. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.880 I'm like, oh, no, girl, you know, I'm an artist. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:50.600 I love you know, you know, but you know, I 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.960 realized that, you know that I struggle with it just 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:55.919 like a lot of people do. And you know, and 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.840 I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the introspection because and that's 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.159 that's the part that I'm grateful for introspect, to the 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.120 wisdom to be able to say, Okay, yes, I see 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.880 this about myself. I'm not judging myself. But I'm just 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.120 going to address it. We're just going to find some 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.200 time to address it. And that way, I feel like 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.840 I'm ready for change. From that way, I feel like 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:15.360 I'm ready. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.160 Do you think as you get older, change gets harder? 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:20.040 Yeah, I doult. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.880 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean not that I don't know. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:24.520 But maybe not for our I don't know. 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.119 I feel that maybe you have a better tools. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.080 I feel like in our generation, I feel like generationally though, 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.400 and no shade or like that's kind of what other 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.920 generations have been through. But I feel like the change 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.920 in the last forty years. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:37.640 Has been on rapid. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.080 Yes it is, and we've had to keep up with 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:41.040 so much. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.320 You know what I mean. Like the Internet we was 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:43.000 like high school. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.760 I just I still say the internet we were in 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.040 high school when it's hot it and it's just. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.280 I was in elementary school. Oh yeah with the big computer. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.880 Yeah you talking about before DOS you talk DOS. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.120 You're talking about that. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:05.800 Big ass computer that said. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.800 Like yeah, and I mean email an email was se. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:16.040 Extreme mail burden something like what is this this microwavable dinner? 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.960 Like we were at the microwavable dinner people like you know, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.080 Lasania macaroni and cheese. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.640 Like, I always think about my grandma, you know, because 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.760 she was she's born in nineteen seventeen. Yeah, you know 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.600 the amount of change that she experienced in life. Yeah, 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.840 because I was gonna say that. You know that boomers 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.080 are parents, they experienced the same kind of like. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:41.840 Lightning bolt change. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.040 Now my mother remembers televisions not being a thing, but they. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.240 Are not expecting to keep up if a boomer I mean, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.080 so you know, the kids get mad when the boomers 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.720 get they they let us miss incorrect, but you can't 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.560 give us so mad. They really get pissed at us, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.920 like we best to have all our shit. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.240 Well, yeah, because at this point, at this point, we 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:06.160 are the most successible adults, the same way that our 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.840 parents were the most accessible adults at that time. You know, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.480 now boomers are their great grandparents or their grandparents at 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.800 this point, right, you know, so that you don't expect 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.240 that young people will have those kind of expectations out 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.880 of their grandparents, but they do out of their parents. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.040 And so I do hear you in the sense of that, like, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.440 as a generation, we are having to contend with I'll 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.080 say this, I feel like it feels harder for us 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.319 because we have more language, because we have the ability 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.920 to because we have the ability to unpack. What if 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.240 you don't have the ability to unpack, then stuff's happening and. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.120 It's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever, that's whatever. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:48.240 When you have the ability, when you have the ability 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.360 to unpack and you can see what's going on, that 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.679 that's a mind blower. And I think for us as 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.280 a generation, because we were a generation that were we 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.520 were the you know, Gen X, we didn't have no 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.320 We're the generation with no name, we have no purpose, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.240 we were underestimated, we were treated a certain kind of 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.640 way by elders, and so we've been trying to prove 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.880 ourselves and be relevant and invent things and be entrepreneurs 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.520 and do all this stuff. And I think we have 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.560 the ability to be self aware, But being self aware 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.160 means you also have to be willing to change. You 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.319 have to be you can't be halfway self aware. If 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.040 you know it, you got to use it. And now 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:37.800 we're being challenged to use it, and that that makes 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.480 us different. And I think that's what's harder for us, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.600 because it's like, I know, y'all not trying to tell 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:43.760 us we're not progressive. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.320 You was progressive when. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.760 You was twenty We was fighting the power. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.080 Now you have to understand what that means in the 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:54.199 current context. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.600 That is a different type of chat. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.000 Progressive. You mean was progressive? 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:02.400 You know? 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:03.199 I mean? 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.000 Yeah, more real talk after the break. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.280 Yeah, well, I'll tell y'all one thing. I was overwhelmed 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.439 by the thought of AI. I was so overwhelmed and 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:24.280 I didn't want to see it. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.440 I didn't want to try it, like I was scared, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.559 like I was. And then I tried it. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.320 And it's even more scary. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.200 When did you try an AI? Yeah, I tried a 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.520 few things. I try to put together. I told AI 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.520 to put together a pitch for this TV show idea 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:43.040 I got. 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:44.120 She did it. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.360 Now, she didn't do it perfectly. Because this is what 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.280 people don't understand about AI. AI is like, I'm gonna 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.160 do it, but you need to check my work because 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.560 there might be some wording off here, some things that 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.400 you know are not here. But I'm gonna put it 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.120 in a format that is a pitch. Then I'm then 0:11:58.160 --> 0:11:58.920 I'm gonna be like, give. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.360 Me a budget for it. Here's the budget, you know. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.000 I'll tell you a friend of mine and a writer 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.760 friend of mine said he was just messing around with it. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.800 He was like, Hey, I write me a script for 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.560 the Parkers set in the nineteen sixties. Jokes and all 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:17.240 scripts done. Whoa yeah, more one more example. Shout out 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.400 to my little brother Antonio. He asked a got to 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.360 create an image, an image of black people at the 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.439 slave the castles in Ghana, similar to a popular artist 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.640 and the artist vain, but the slave the black people 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:35.840 would be outside frolicking. I'm gonna say the artist is 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.640 a very well known artist. It looked like the artists 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.520 had actually created that image of black people frollicking outside 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.200 of those castles. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:46.640 That's the part I don't know. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:53.880 That part like like that is scary to me because 0:12:54.480 --> 0:13:00.520 so much of humanity is really about our creativity, and 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.920 you're telling me that creativity also can be microwaved. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.240 Yeah, I mean the creativity and AI would be about 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.800 the ability to do description, the art of description. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.480 That would be the creative part of that, like the 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:15.800 way you how much you put it. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.800 Eventually, all technology turns into how can you be creative 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.440 with the existing technology? 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:23.360 Yeah, because there was. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.800 You know, for us as artists, you know, there was 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.200 a time when sampling was super scary to our predecessors, 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:34.040 and when DJing or wrapping or just wrapping over beats. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:42.600 You mean that boobity bop hippity Patina always talks about that, 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.920 you know, And I'm not saying it makes it less scary, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.439 because I feel like we have to own our fear. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.000 It's okay to say that's scary to me, you know 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.160 what I'm saying. And it might be, you know, because 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.760 at the end of the day, technology does change what 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.800 the workforce is like, changes your everyday life, and it 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:06.240 eliminates jobs, It eliminates certain things, and it always has 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:13.560 it always has the cottingen, the electric plow is you know, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:19.520 factor street lights, street lights, right, elevators, elevator to be 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:20.400 an elevator operator. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.880 My grandmother was an elevator operator. So I think, you know, So. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.200 It is scary because we are getting to that age 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.920 where we do begin to fear our relevance in the 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:36.040 world and to see such a very stark, stark evidence 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.320 of that we and things that we have always done 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.000 might not be the same and they may not need us. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.760 We're already worried about if we're needed or wanted. So 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.800 I think this is a time where it's so important 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.560 for us to know who we are and to love 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.840 on ourselves because if we don't, we can really get 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.200 caught up in the fear of this change and to 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.600 keep our optimism because of the end end of the day, 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.400 there are there will be those of us who will 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:04.480 thrive in the new era. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.080 Mm hmm. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.360 There's one thing, like I want you, I'm gonna name 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.520 my thing, and I'd love for you to name yours, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:18.840 the thing that has not changed, well slightly but it 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.160 has not changed that gives. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:26.920 You peace of mind. And for me, that thing is fishing. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:30.600 Hmmm. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.280 That's funny because I do watch like the Tuna Show 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.240 and stuff like that, Like have they changed. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.160 Like I fly fish. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.040 It's so funny that you said that because I literally 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.160 didn't think you're going to go there, but it was. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.440 It was effective. It was very effective. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:51.200 Yeah, fishing, fishing, it's you're even in that world. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.160 Even in sports and activities like that, things have changed, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:58.440 and maybe fishing this is one of the last I think. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:04.480 I think bowling is the same, you know, like like I. 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.760 Think bowling is the same. I mean, you just the ball, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:12.360 hit the pins, you win. You lose fancy your colors 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:13.400 where the depends are. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:14.760 But yeah, pretty much the same. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you know scuba diving is 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:18.560 the same. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.800 Uh, scuba dive? 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:22.440 You like that? 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:23.000 I do? 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:23.560 I do? 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.000 I do. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.880 I'm sorry a snorkel because the scuba dive is when 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.160 your ears the pressure and you're about to explode in 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.920 your head. I don't like that, but I do like 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:32.600 this to snorkel. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:33.000 I like that. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.440 I never do the snorkel, right, but I got it. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:45.560 Yeah, you're not supposed to do too d you're supposed 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.280 to let the thing like just I traveled with my 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:48.880 own mask. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.120 Oh I got one dancing. Let me tell you something, Jill. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.440 When I was dancing with Asia to the Afro Beats 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.560 the other night, I was like that, it ain't gonna check. Well, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.640 she's gonna get older, but I think she's still gonna 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.840 be dancing the same. So, because you know, Jill, we 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.680 need to be on the look. You know how you 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.600 remember your birthday party the bitch shut. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:15.880 It down, look, slid on the water, fell, jump back 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.960 up and dance some more, Jill, house. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.119 Party that the house, yes party. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.040 But yeah, no, I do love dancing. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:27.080 Yeah, dancing. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.840 I pray, pray, Lord, you hear me, hear my voice, 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.160 and heard that I can dance till I'm old old. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.399 If I'm to be here, old old, please let me 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.000 be able to dance till I'm old old. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:46.960 That's beautiful. A couple of a ball. But you know what, well, 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:55.680 what do we need? I mean, do we need things 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:56.399 to say the same? 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:56.720 Like? 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.919 Are there certain things that we need? It's a questions. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.840 Are there certain things they need to stay the same? 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:02.960 Is there? 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.720 I mean you know that you know the line that 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:11.960 that if you're not you're not changing or growing, you're dead. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:19.520 You know, they're supposed to change. You know, life is 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:24.160 supposed to change. You're supposed to change. Yeah, like that's 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.800 just the way life goes. 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:27.280 Huh. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.200 I am not meshing and I'm not meshing right now 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.440 with energies that want me to be the same. 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.879 Yeah, I'm just not. And I think. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.840 I think it keeps you, you know, and not that 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.760 I have an issue with being older, I don't, but 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.320 I do think it gives it keeps you youthful. You're 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:56.040 embracing of change, you know, because anything you do in resistance, 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:00.560 the body responds as if it's in resistance right. The 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.640 brain and the body starts to respond if you resist, 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:09.199 if you are in opposition to that's what starts to 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.320 manifest opposition. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:12.880 I just don't want. 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.080 To feel that and to be and to be one 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:21.359 hundred percent honest. I think it is absolutely possible to 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:27.960 be at peace and not be a and still accept 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.000 those things that are tough. 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.640 I don't know who that is. It's real popular now. 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.439 I don't know who said it, but the people been 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:35.920 saying that I can do difficult things. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.919 Hmm, I can do difficult things. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:44.000 I saw jem want They say something about not being 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:45.400 afraid to be a beginner. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.960 Talk about change. She has some change. I love her change. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:50.800 I'm ready for all of it. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.200 Pete the science of it all, talk about it, joke, 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:54.679 she got it. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:55.119 I love it. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.760 I've been watching Janelle for a long time. Yeah, absolutely, 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.639 Just so you know, I absolutely adore her. It's a 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.919 lot of work ethic involved in that, and there's a 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.679 lot of forward thinking in the hope as well. Like 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.879 everything that she has done has led up to hear 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.639 whether we've all understood what she was doing or not. 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:20.840 I get it, I get some of it, all, all 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:21.119 of it. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:21.920 I hope that I don't. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:23.639 I don't want to pretend that I get all of 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.439 it because I don't know her. But I feel like 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.520 the button up of things, the understanding the craft. You 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.120 understand how great my craft is without having to see 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.000 certain things about Yeah, I get that. 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.240 Starting completely clothed, Yes, yes, and. 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:41.320 For years in a uniform, Yeah. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:41.920 Yes. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:48.439 Janelle rehearses like nobody ever seen. She rehearses till something 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:52.520 is perfect, like un till it's literally perfect. And I 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.639 remember thinking we were at the White House, and I 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:59.720 remember thinking, where's the space, you know, for the for 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.760 the I don't know the humanity in it, like you know, 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:08.920 because I didn't quite understand. But now looking where she is, 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:14.840 it all makes so much sense that she's like cutting 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.760 through with a level of perfection, and now she's fully 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:23.760 allowing herself outside of the craft to be free. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:24.280 Free. 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.800 She's like free now, like breaking. 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:32.240 All chains because she was a master at being inside 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:36.280 of them discipline to the discipline of now and. 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:40.680 Now she's like loose. And it's wonderful to. 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.399 Think that was always the intention. Is there a I 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:44.920 believe it's always been the intention. 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:45.440 Yeah. 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.520 Now, when Jills put it that way, I was like yes, 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.040 because she's also always inside liftis life, Like. 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.360 We've seen things behind the scenes where you know that life. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.840 All as we go. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.119 The yes yes, And then when Jill broke down the 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.640 Josephine Baker piece and the fact that she was playing 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.200 Josephin Baker, and then I rewinded to what she did 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.880 at the active party of the Medala when she got 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:12.680 on top of that bar. 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:17.040 But her I was like, everything is methodical. 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.720 Like it's a beautiful setup. 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.639 It's a beautiful setup, and she's in charge of her ship. 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.359 And now we're ready to receive it too. It's weird. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.920 It's like, it was so good that to see her 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:33.359 with these images oh my, in that beautiful body and 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.080 the way that she's interacting with these women, It's like, 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.800 you prepare, I'm here for this, I'm ready. 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:39.320 For this change. 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:44.280 I love how thoughtful she is about about this change 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.760 and how she's prepared us for her change. 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:49.080 That changes. 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.960 I remember like when Andre three thousand came out and 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.840 he you know, had the fun the fuzzy pants and 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.760 the you know, we weren't ready, we weren't ready. It 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:05.080 was so much discussion about it. People were not prepared 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.639 in any way, shape or form. 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.600 Yeah, but he knew. 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.960 He knew, like I feel like, for a change, you 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.359 better know when you're changing, you gotta you gotta know 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.840 more than anybody else could ever that this is for 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.560 your benefit, this is for your freedom, this is for 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:32.520 your your peace, your joy, for your fulfillment. And maybe 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:39.320 people won't get it until later, until much later, but 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:40.160 I think we've. 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.119 Seen we've seen some evidence of that in the past 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.240 with different artists, maybe not that exact same way, but 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.800 how we didn't get it until later or until we 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:50.240 knew the whole story, you know. 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.680 I think about that with the Little Richard story with his. 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.600 Documentary, and I'm not understanding until. 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.880 It's all at the end. 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.760 But I think more than anything, what's at the root 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.159 of what we're talking about is to live uninterrupted. Like 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.080 there was a clip moving around about that, and I 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.879 wish I knew the sister who actually was talking about it, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.960 but she was saying, like, what is your life? She 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.760 was asking this question, and y'all please forgive me, because 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.679 I would love to like actually reference who said this, 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.280 but it was circulating on Instagram where she was like 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.520 someone that asked her, what do you think your life 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.639 would be like without interruption? Or who would you be 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:35.640 without interruption? And I think Janelle Money is an example 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.359 of a person who has pondered this and kind of 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.080 created a life based around who is a deal? I 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:47.399 want to be uninterrupted? And you know, and that type 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.920 of freedom and liberation you. 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.240 Cannot sounds so overwhelming, it sounds so good. 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:53.479 I'm sorry, as you go ahead. 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.120 It sounds good, but guess what it is also work? Yeah, 0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:01.760 I see that's the thing, right, this idea about liberal right, 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.280 we have this idea about liberation and freedom number one, 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.240 even trying to contemplate it all already puts you in 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.679 opposition to the status quo. So you know you're already 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.919 dealing with that. Then you have your internalized stuff that 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.800 you didn't have to go against, and then you have 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.040 to be really planning and intentional about that. 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.800 Sometimes people have a crew, you know, a crow of 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.480 a crew of people that have vision. You know that 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.960 that creates the vision or assist in creating the vision 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.360 for you. And then some and she may I don't 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.439 know that she doesn't have people who you know, she 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.439 talks about what she wants in her life, and then 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.080 you know she has people to help implement those things 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:48.640 and direct in those areas. That's awesome. M. I lost 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:52.440 my train of thought because I want that. That sounds great. 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.120 That sounds great to me. 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.320 But it starts with the intention of the person themselves, right, 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.399 So you can pull together whomever, but you have to 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.280 have a you have to have a strength of vision 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.520 her when you talk to her to have a strength 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.320 of vision though, and she there's a clip of her 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.320 going around now too that speaks to that as well 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.439 when she talks about just being yourself. Yeah, like you know, 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:19.359 and yeah, that conversation with the self is serious. Look, 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:25.360 I'm just saying whether whether I even understand it or. 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:29.520 Not, this is like my last year of being Chill Scott, M. 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:32.320 What do you mean by that? 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:34.520 I don't know. 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.160 I don't even know that I. 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.240 Like I could, but you know that you sure. 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:47.200 Know that I know that it's I'm ready to change. 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.920 There are things about myself that I really really love 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.720 in my artistry that I really really love. Writing will 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.560 probably never change for me, like never. I love to write. 0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:00.520 It's my favorite thing. But some things are going to change, 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:05.359 and I hope that I have the good sense to 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.120 prepare you for it. You know people who are who 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:08.960 enjoy what I do. 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.160 Hope I have. I can prepare you for it. 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.840 Or you won't be because because here's the part about change, 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.960 you will win some and you will lose some. 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:20.480 Oh, Janelle is definitely yeah, I'm sorry. 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.320 I know we could use her an example, but I'm like, yeah, 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.520 she's got to she's got to be losing some because 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.359 everybody ain't feeling all that, all that Levin owned Lady stuff, 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:28.879 But hey, I don't matter. 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.560 When Prince was like, you know, my name is now 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.920 a symbol, we were like, get the fuck out of here. 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:36.880 I will say that. I will say it. 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:41.000 But and you know then right, but what are you 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.400 talking about, your prince? What do you mean? You know? 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.919 But in hindsight, we understood, we understand. 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.320 What he was dealing with and what he was going 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.560 to do, but he had to make a major change 0:27:53.000 --> 0:28:01.159 because circumstances required required it. That it's not changed the 0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.880 fact that this is one of the most amazing musical 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.960 geniuses ever on the planet. 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.920 And it's like, how can how can we be really 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.800 authentic in ourselves to the point that when we really 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.399 do understand that time has come, that we accept it 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:23.400 and we move with it, because you know sometimes that 0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.080 that thing whispers to you, it says it's time, gives 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:31.480 you those indications, and people don't always know or feel 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.320 comfortable to move with it, you know, and. 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:36.840 Then it'll come and kick your in the ass. 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.360 Like it tries a gentle it's a gentle pushing initially, 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.480 but if you meant to change, it's gonna come kick 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:43.320 you in your ass. 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.360 Well, the universe is more powerful than these kind of 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.160 systems and things that we're dealing with every day. 0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.120 For sure. Universe is going to is massive. 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.840 It's gonna move, it's going to change, It's gonna at 0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.680 every single level, you know, to the molecta level, to 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.960 the sound wave level, like it's going to do what 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.600 it does and it's. 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:05.480 Not going to wait on you. 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.920 Yeah, you know you can either. 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.320 It's like remember when I was telling you guys about 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.640 making omer and I was like, it's like a school 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.240 of fish and you got to get into the rhythm 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.120 to get into it right. So it's just like, yeah, 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.320 you can stop in the middle of all those people 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:20.960 moving around. 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.040 You can do that, but they gonna keep going. 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.280 You kind of have to get with it, you know, 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.880 you have to get with it in terms of the universe, 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:35.280 not necessarily the status quo, but how those things. 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:36.040 Are coming up to you. 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.360 You feel it in your body, you feel it in 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.160 your spirit, and for many of us, and y'all know, 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.040 y'all hear old people talk about this about how when 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.200 you pray for something, be ready to receive what you. 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:50.120 Play come for. You know, you be ready to receive 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:51.120 when you. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.320 Tap in your prayers. 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:53.760 Honey. 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.720 Well yeah, but once you tap in, you can't be 0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:01.560 afraid of what it reveals because everybody, everybody won't tap 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:02.120 in right. 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:03.240 Some people ain't tapping in. 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.120 You are, You're tapped in right, But that's not the 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.800 end of it. 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:11.120 You have to receive it. 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.000 We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be 0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:16.520 right back. 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.280 I chuckle with God all the time because y'all know 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.440 I'm I'm a big proponent of being very intentional and 0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.400 a particular in what you ask for God for because 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.920 God will make a joke on me all the time, 0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.400 because He will grant my blessings and the. 0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.200 Deliberate, exact way. And I should have. 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.040 Said, oh why I say this, But this is what 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.360 I ask for God. So you are listening, so you 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.640 are listening, so to that effect. That's why when change happens, 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.800 I always tell people, I'm like, well, change is happening, 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.280 and I know I'm in God's favor because somehow always 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:01.720 ended up working it out. 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.760 Sometimes I end up better. 0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.720 I'm literally I just all these changes. I feel like, yes, 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.560 because of this industry and this town that I live in. 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.600 But I'm like, personally, I'm feeling it on a parimental, 0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:14.560 pausal type level. 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.920 I don't know when my period coming back, y'all. I'm 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:18.680 feeling changed from a career level. 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.320 I mean, I got this is the end of the 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.479 season for two podcasts of what You're gonna do. But 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:26.360 I feel like, where some people maybe go down from 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.480 all these things, I feel excited, Like I feel like 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:31.960 this is how God kicks my ass. God is like, 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:33.800 remember you wanted to do this? 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.160 Hey, yeah, now here's time to play fools. 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:39.280 Let's go. Let's go. 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.200 I'm giving you a space, giving you a space. 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.320 It may not be the space you asked for, but 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:43.800 I ain't. 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:44.920 Gonna have you starving out in these streets, so go 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:45.760 ahead and get it done. 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.080 That's what I feel about change. 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.880 I posted about my my son turned twenty four yesterday 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:56.200 and I posted this picture of us from like twenty 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.560 two years ago. You're like two years old in this picture. 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.600 And it was the first time we ever did Essence Festival, 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.680 and we were laying on this hotel bed and I 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.240 was trying to put him down for a nap, and 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:13.480 I was two weeks postpartum from DIA and I had 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.640 to I remember praying to God, Please, God, let this 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.120 baby be born so I can get on this plane, 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.920 because at that time, that was to that date, the 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.960 largest paying gig that we had ever gotten to at 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.040 that date, and so I was like, I got to 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.440 get on the plane with these kids, and I can't 0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.120 fly with a baby under two weeks soul, so I 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:39.640 need her to be born on her due date. And 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:43.040 she came to day before and I was two weeks 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.560 postpartum with her, and I was looking at this picture 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.320 and I was thinking to myself, and my girlfriend texted 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.880 me and was like, girl, two weeks postpartum. I said, yeah, girl, 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.680 that was back when the Kamakazi mothering was still in style. 0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.600 We don't do that no more. That's out of style now, right. 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.479 But when I thought about it, I was like, all 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.000 the sacrifices I made all of these years. 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.720 The way that I moved. 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:11.160 My change right now honestly is believing that I deserve 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:18.480 a rest because I have just been on for a 0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:24.719 very long time. Yeah, and I wake up now and 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.720 it's like wow, Like I get to decide what I'm 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:33.240 doing with my day, Like it's really it's amazing. Actually, 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:38.080 when I think about it, I'm not busy. Like I'm busy, 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.840 but I'm not. This is not the life I was 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.160 living ten years ago. 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:44.400 It isn't. 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.760 And though sometimes I worry about what will be the 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.080 rest of my career and will I continue to work 0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:53.680 this way or this that and the other? 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.400 Do we have a retirement? 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.160 Are we going to be because Fatiina and I are 0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.840 not superstars, We're not none of that were working artists. 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.000 We have a nice, you know following who is supportive 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.480 of us. But you know, there's still always that question 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.200 of what happens later And shout. 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.080 Out to everybody in the gig industry where we don't 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.400 have social security, we ain't got pension. 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:15.880 No, you don't listen. 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:20.440 So yeah, right now, in this moment, I'm giving myself 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:24.640 permission to take a damn breath. Beautiful and to live 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.280 as softly as I can. 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.200 Oh to the solf living, the soft living. 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.080 And I don't like a trendy term, but that one 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:38.080 has really that wouldne that would have got into my heart. 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.120 I can think about the young people right now, you know, 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.280 the younger, younger people than than myself. 0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:51.160 And you ladies like there's you're doing your thing. 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:57.920 Everything is working, you're out of your parents' house, you 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:03.400 got your own everything, it's working. All the dreams and ideas, 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.920 the effort that you put forth, it's happening. 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:11.520 And then something like COVID pops up, you know, something. 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.360 Like, you know, the job that you had is letting 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.160 you go for a reason it doesn't even make sense 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:23.719 to you. Yeah, that's when change gets really really scary because. 0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.279 Because people went on strike. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.600 Right so now, so now what does this mean that 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.000 you know the fear level can be so high? To me, 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.200 it just it just I'm not trying to make light 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:45.919 of anything. It's kind of like all right, all right, then, 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:53.080 well back to what can you do punishing? What can 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.880 you do because you still want to be able to 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:00.720 you may not be able to maintain I mean exactly 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:01.960 how you were living before. 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:02.880 But you're still living. 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.239 And I think the peace of mind that you have, 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.759 that self awareness comes in handy at a time like that. 0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.719 Mm hm, it really does, because you're not you're not 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.040 hinging everything on it, you know what I mean. It's 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.080 like And also like, ill circle back to what I 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:18.480 am saying. Well, she was just like, I know I'm 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:20.520 going to be all right. I don't know what version 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.359 of alright is gonna be, but I do know I'm 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:26.520 going to be all right. And it takes a level 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:32.880 of experience to have experienced worrying about being not alright 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.759 several times and see it be okay for you to 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.640 have that kind of confidence. And so this is what 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.759 this age kind of is about. Also, it's like I 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.240 know what I know. 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:44.719 And we know what we ain't going back to because 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.279 I tell you what I know, I ain't going back. 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.719 I ain't going back to Cadisi's couch. I ain't going 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:50.759 back to Cadizia's couch. And I know that. 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.640 And I know that because I'm my blessings and I 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.360 know that because of my work and I know I 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.839 just I just know I have faith and I'm also 0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.680 manifesting that in case, yeah, cocktail, that ship, you know, 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.040 praying manifest you don't face word. 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:06.960 I wonder if we are. 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.960 You know, it's funny we start out talking about change 0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.359 and it's like it has like an excitement to it. 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:16.240 And I realized, and I'm listening to us talking, we 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:21.279 we've gotten soft, We've gotten a little somber. I'm saying, no, no, no, 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.319 no no. I feel like excitement is good. But we 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.320 you know, we cackle. 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:33.040 And for this to be we have got no no, no, no, no, 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:33.960 it's good. 0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.520 It's good, but like we have gotten real, like because 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.839 it is serious though, like, yeah it is. 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:43.640 This is real. 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.600 It's a it's everybody. 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:53.040 It is a real life real And I'm glad to 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.480 be able to have that conversation with y'all because some 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.080 people experience and this alone. 0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:57.960 And I want to. 0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.959 Take this moment to say something to people who listen 0:37:59.960 --> 0:38:02.840 to this podcast, because I know that they have said 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.360 on social media times when I've seen them in public. 0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:11.000 Some people this this is the kitchen table conversation for them. 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.680 This is that moment to hear I'm not the only 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.239 person feeling this. I'm not alone, you know what I mean. 0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:23.239 And for people who come to this podcast, most of 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:28.040 them are like, I'm a huge Jill Scott fan and 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.239 they love, love, love you and your music and who 0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.560 you are. And for them to hear you even say this, 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.920 it's so important. It is really important for them to 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:44.040 hear that level of relatability and that that says I'm 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.920 not by myself, because people have a tendency in this 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:51.200 music business in Hollywood to place people in these spaces 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.520 of untouchableness, like they're not seeing the same stuff, but 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.640 they're not going through the same things and feeling the 0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:02.720 same things, you know, as people for real everybody, people 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.920 for real, real. 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.799 For actual real. Yeah, Oh, I'm a I'm a. 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:14.480 This freaking cat got ship that is shipp right beside you. 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.160 You're gonna pay attention to the cat. 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.000 He knocked over my food onto the floor. 0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.360 Where you're gonna pay attention should when the cat is 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:22.799 letting you. 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.319 Know the cat is telling you, and you know what 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.840 the cat is telling you. You ain't paying that baby 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.480 too much attention. You've been paying yourself too much attention. 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.399 Everybody gets attention. Now you got to notice me. Come 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.359 on there and come up behind the neck. I want 0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:38.279 you to feel my tail. 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.040 Come on, now, come on, used to me. You used 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.640 to be looking for you used to need me. 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.719 Now you don't need me no more. Somebody else Your food. 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.839 Down there, just she is down there getting it in. 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:54.680 On my food. 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:56.160 They even know. 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.040 I ain't even know cats eight real food. 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:00.319 Chi That. 0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:06.240 Wasn't supposed to be an example of change. My girlfriend 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.120 was around all the time, spending time with the cat. 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.440 Loved the cat. But she got busy. Life happens, you know. 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.560 She got a new job, she got a new friend. 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.919 She's spending time with a new friend working at the cat. 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.800 Every time she would come in the house with dry cleaning, 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.800 the cat would pee on top of her dry cleaning 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.680 every time, Like, you better not put your dry cleaning 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.880 down on the bed. You better hang it up and 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.040 put it in the closet and close the closet. Can't 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.680 do that because the cat was like, oh this plastic 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.040 care and these little clothes you want to go out in, 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:38.760 I'm a pee right. 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:42.640 Here on your ship. You supposed to spend time to 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.319 be the love me. 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:46.320 That's the ship that change. 0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:51.279 There you go, it's some some piss pissy. 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:57.080 Everybody okay all the time? 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:02.000 No, no, everybody like we did that. We did. 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:08.799 Everybody some people can't go, they tell you, so I 0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:10.680 go all the time. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.920 So you know, as you as you make some decisions 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.239 or life makes some decisions for you, you already know 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:19.080 that not. 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:20.839 Everybody is going to be able to go with you. 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.680 Yeah, you know, And that's that's not a disc that's 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.280 just reality. 0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.440 That's just reality. 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.840 Certain people for certain things. It's all right. 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.600 But to say a season and for a reason, and 0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:36.160 a season a reason, yeah. 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.560 Because I just everybody is on everybody's on their own path, 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.360 you know. For really, I think a lot of times, 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.520 well we'll say, oh, yeah, well this is a person 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.239 who can't go, when it also might be you who 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:53.080 can't go. It's all, you know, it's all everyone's on 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.719 a different path, you know, and we all kind of 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.439 interacting with each other according to. 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.320 The needs of where we are on that path. 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.480 And that's why it's good to think about it intentionally 0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.080 as you're doing the things you're doing, because they do 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.200 effect all, you know what I mean. There's a yeah, 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.440 I think this is in the quarter and it says 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.000 there are signs in it for everyone who witnesses, right, 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.479 So like any person who is witnesses a thing, there's 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.200 something in it for everyone who witnesses a thing, you know. 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:22.600 What I mean. 0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.719 And so if we're if we're in community with each other, 0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:27.719 each of us is in community with each other for 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:32.600 a purpose or maybe several purposes, right, And as long 0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:34.880 as we're in community with each other, each each of 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:39.480 us is receiving something, each of us is getting some 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:45.040 sort of perspective. And you know, and when we're not together, 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:49.680 we're pulling from that into our other interactions, and so 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:51.919 on and so on and so on and so forth. 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.439 Whoever comes into contact with those people, and those people 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.879 and then some and that's how we all end up 0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.920 so connected with one another. And that's why it is 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.480 important to think about and be self aware so that 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.040 when you are interacting with others that you're pouring in 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.239 beautiful things into them. 0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:08.680 So when it's time for them. 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.880 To not be in communication with you or not in 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.120 community with you, what they pull away from that is beauty. 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.360 What they pull away from that is what was needed. 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.279 And I think that for me, that's my that's what 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.600 I try to do. I was writing something today and 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.279 I said this about myself that I never would have 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.919 said about myself five years ago. 0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:34.880 My heart is my flex. If I love you, I 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.439 feel the same way I ain't gonna do you. Yeah, 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.000 if I love. 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:42.000 You, you don't have any doubt about that. 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:45.240 Word. 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.920 And that for. 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.480 Me, that's the way I choose to be in community 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.120 with people. So I'm hoping that that's what they take 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.319 away from their time with me, whether it be a 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.560 short time or be decades of time. 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.879 I'm gonna say this, you know, we've said it many 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:05.439 times before. 0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:10.440 I'm gonna say it again that this podcast, this J 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:15.080 dot L podcast is is really it's been so therapeutic. 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:21.360 It's been so to sit in therapy, Okay, is for 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:26.200 anybody who has it, to sit in therapy, you know, 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.359 with just your therapist and yourself, that's one thing, because 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.480 it's almost like talking to yourself in a sense, but 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:37.040 somebody else has given their perspective, but not judgment really, 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:40.560 but giving a perspective and trying to help you get 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.000 to where you said you wanted to go. Really, that's 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:47.240 what therapy it is about. But being here with you, ladies, 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:53.239 and voicing you know, concerns or voicing joys or you know, 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:58.160 and having your perspective and having your your light shining 0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:02.080 in my direction. And then for everybody that's listening as well. 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:07.840 It's like this powerful triangle you know that that people 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:08.920 get an opportunity to. 0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:13.880 Get lost in for a while or found in nice 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:15.279 it is. 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:20.480 It is always like I've come to this podcast many times, 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:25.319 like exhausted and concerned and you know. 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:29.640 Afraid and alive. You know, I'm just out here living. 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.160 And then I'll say a thing and an Age will 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.160 say a thing and it'll bounce off my forehead and 0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:40.040 it'll pop like in the nose and she'll say something 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:44.280 and it's it's like this wonderful energy. 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.480 Of just lift. 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:50.360 It's a lift and a man. I just love y'all, 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.520 I really do. I just really do love you. 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.880 I know that you know, okay, because you're best to 0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:58.480 know I. 0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:07.040 Okay, that's the best part of it all, Like yes, 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.960 and knowing knowing as a thing. 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.080 Boy, when you know a thing. 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:18.680 Like Age eleven, I'll be like, I know, you'll like. 0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:21.920 This becomes the prerequisite. 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.279 So it's like you know, you move forward and you 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.040 know all the things are in love. Yeah, you know, 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.800 and that you know not to be on our circle 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.160 back because you know, I'm not as good as this 0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.520 as y'all are. Y'all will circle a ship back. That 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:39.759 is that's y'all be doing that. It's so masterful. But 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.799 on the circle on my I be a circle back. 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:44.960 I'm gonna say, you know, that's how I've been able 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.919 to deal with a lot of changes. It's just from 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.960 knowing that I'm loved and knowing that I'm in spaces 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:50.640 where I am. 0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.319 Loved, because that helps it, you know what I mean. 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.600 And us, like I said, you know, when we started 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.560 doing the podcast, I was right in the middle of 0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:02.320 a lot of complicated feelings, my grief and my kids 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:04.400 were all kind of a teenager. 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:05.680 You know. 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:11.479 Now, lots of lots of stuff, you know what I mean. 0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:14.680 Working those things out with people who I know loved 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:22.160 me is you know, blessing, No blessing, blessing. And that's 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:23.960 why I feel like we've been able to bless people 0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:27.759 other people, because the core of it and the core 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.560 of the connection there is about love, and we're leading 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.279 from there and that and I and I love that 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.120 because that's how we're able to talk to each other 0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.359 in honest ways about it all the things and. 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:45.360 Listen to each other. Listening is really important when somebody 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.200 loves you, when somebody loves. 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:51.600 You and they tell you something. This is this is 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:52.560 really a part. 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.799 Of the biggest goal of all is to to love 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.840 on you, you know as you listening to this podcast and 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:03.720 bathtub or you know, on a toilet or the kitchen, 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.719 in the kitchen wherever you are, like it, really the 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:11.719 goal is to love on you. You know, I'm the auntie, 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.319 they're the sisters, you know, or they're the cousins you know. 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.359 But we want to share information with you, and we 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:25.759 want to reveal, you know, the humanity and all of us, 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:33.080 you know, like nobody's perfect. Nobody like nobody anywhere, like anywhere. 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.560 I've never met a perfect person ever. And we have 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.560 these hard conversations out loud. 0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:43.080 I love that about us, like we, like you said, 0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.680 we literally are sparking conversation like now you can figure 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.440 out now, you can figure out a way, you have. 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.680 The words, And it's not it's not just in this room, 0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:53.319 you know, it's not. 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.440 That's I think that's the biggest part of it because 0:48:55.440 --> 0:49:00.440 we're having such a public conversation about real life. 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:01.319 Mm hm. 0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.040 You know, we got to know a lot about each 0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:05.319 other on this podcast. 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.360 That's the cool part. 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.080 Yes, Yes, and you don't eve think you know somebody, 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:15.759 but and you're like, oh wow, like I know you 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:20.160 in a whole different way, like whole whole different way 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.080 ever before yeah, and then and also too, we've all 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:24.880 gotten older and you know, no, da da da da. 0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.440 So it's like, you know how it's very easy to 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:32.080 have somebody's twenty year old self like branded in your brain. 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.800 It's kind of like when you grow when you grow. 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:36.520 Up with somebody, or you see somebody when they're young, No, 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.239 somebody when they're a baby, and whenever you look at 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.280 them and still see a ten year old maybe like thirty, 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.560 you know what I mean. So I think that's easy 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.520 to have somebody's twenty or twenty five year old self, 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:51.000 you know, just in your brain. But I think being 0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:54.000 able to intimately have these type of conversations, like even 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:57.080 when you're friends with somebody, doesn't always mean you're having 0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.320 these kind of conversations. 0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:00.319 Right, you know what I'm say saying. 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:03.640 So having those type of conversations broken and open even 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:10.920 so much further for me, you know, oh. 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:22.280 More conversation after the break. 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:27.040 I want to say something though that's slightly not slightly 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.040 off topic, it's on topic, it's on the topic of change. 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.160 Don't get mad at me, but it's just slightly off 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:36.040 topic of what we're talking about now. The world is 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:41.359 changing in some kind of interesting ways that I want 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:46.040 us to pay attention to due you know, in particular, 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:51.160 in particular some of these really offensive laws that are 0:50:51.239 --> 0:51:00.520 being passed, Yeah, around women's bodies, around education, in our history. 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:05.120 I mean, y'all, they are banning books like the world 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.839 is regressing. We are sitting there to the world is regressing. 0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.600 Some of the books and the authors that we talked 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:16.240 about on this podcast are on the list of banned 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:21.040 books in some of these states. Yeah, they are rewriting 0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:26.880 history even worse than the revisionists ass history that we learned. 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:33.080 These kids are getting it even worse. I did we 0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.600 really think it was just gonna stop? No, I think 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:37.359 I thought it was. 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:38.879 I didn't think it would get work. 0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:42.879 I didn't know that we were going to revisit. It's 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:46.680 all so foolish. It seems foolish. 0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:50.560 But I'm gonna tell y'all something that prequel to Handmaid's tell, 0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:56.960 not not the actual prequel, but the part in the 0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.360 in the yeah that's prior to. 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:03.919 To Yes, Oh, Yes, this is it. 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:08.160 We have been, We have been on the pathway to fascis. 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.080 Like so, I'm just saying I want us to pay 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.799 attention to these changes, right. I want us to keep 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:22.839 in mind, and particularly around some more controversial issues as 0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:26.520 we start talking about and using words like traditional and 0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:30.880 words like you know that that harkened to time periods 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:31.520 that none of. 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:32.239 Us lived in. 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:38.400 I think that we really have to be clear about 0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:43.200 what it means to attack humanity and other people's humanity, 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:45.799 and know that just because you may not be a 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:49.000 part of that group, that that is an attack on 0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:54.359 all humanity because they come in for you next. So 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:59.759 you can't allow any person, any human being, to be 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.239 for and that's what happens. They try to pick a 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.759 small group of people that everybody can gang up on. 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:08.279 And I'm telling y'all, they're going to gang up on 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:11.239 you next, and they're showing themselves to be doing it. 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.680 These are changes where we cannot be comfortable with. These 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:19.839 are the changes that we cannot fold into. These are 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:24.160 the changes that we cannot allow ourselves to stand by 0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:25.480 and watch. 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:28.200 I know you're speaking on it from an organization or 0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.799 activism level, but somewhere in my mind. You're you're also 0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:33.960 speaking on it from a political thing where you do 0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:35.360 have power at some point. 0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.640 Right, yes, but also on a personal level because guess what, 0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:43.279 laws can be changed, but culture and society changes because. 0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:44.279 Of the way we talk to each other. 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.240 So speak up, and we're doing this on this podcast 0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:50.040 where we're taught the conversations that we're having. That's how 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.839 you change culture with changing how you talk to people, right, 0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:59.840 and your feelings, your ideas is the ideas that are important, 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.520 you know what I'm saying, because they can go back 0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:03.080 and change. 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:10.840 The law versus waight is done. It's done. Did you 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.200 ever think it's done? 0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:16.160 But the reason that it's done is because. 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:21.359 All of these foul, insidious conversations and talk. 0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.960 So it talk changing culture. Going back to changing culture. 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:27.480 Yeah, so don't be don't be when I when you 0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:29.719 say activism, I think people have a picture in their 0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:30.960 mind and we talked about this on. 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:32.120 The podcast before. 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:34.480 They have a picture in their mind and somebody with 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.120 a you know, a sign and a post the board 0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:39.280 and they march it and they going to jail and 0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:42.839 d Yes, that's that's definitely disruption and it's a part 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.480 of it, but part of changing. You know, the way 0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:48.320 that we do things is changing our ideas, and that's 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:50.879 that's the thing that we do on the show, and 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:52.960 that's what I'm hoping that we can continue to do. 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:56.120 You know, not just after people leave the show and 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.200 they go on and have their conversations with their cousins 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.320 and their family and their moms and their dads and 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:01.040 their children. 0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:04.440 You know, we can't afford to let that go. We 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.200 can't change is. 0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.239 It can be very exciting and it can also be 0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:13.440 very frightening, depending on what that change may be. 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.680 But know that you. 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:23.040 Are guided, that you are loved, That it is a 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:28.400 miracle that you're even here, huh, that you're even here, 0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.760 that you're listening to this podcast right now, or that 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:37.040 you're that you're just sitting on a park bench, whatever 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:37.960 it is that you're doing. 0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.879 Be not afraid. If there was anything to do. 0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.279 There are shows that I've had that I felt like 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.840 I was jumping off of a building over and over 0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:55.640 and over and over again because it was scary every time. 0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.879 But there is something about that leap of faith. There 0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.480 is something about action even when you don't want it. 0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:06.360 There is something. 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:16.680 About resilience and making a decision that some things can 0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:22.160 never happen again, and something should absolutely change. 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.000 We have the right to do that. You're born to it. 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:30.799 Know that, Know that you are loved, Know that you 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.799 are a miracle, and know that it has been our 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:41.480 pleasure to share our time with you. Blessings in real life, 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:47.560 and then no kind of shallow saying it just to 0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:52.520 say it. Count them counter blessings. Hold on to them 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:54.759 and appreciate the life that you have. 0:56:55.760 --> 0:57:00.839 Change is inevitable. It just is. What the fuck it is? 0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:12.080 Small more, laugh, loud, hold hands, kiss somebody slow, dad 0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:14.040 spoke weed. 0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:16.200 That's a good change. It's getting better. 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:26.520 Make hard decisions for your benefit. What else? I don't 0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:28.880 even know. I think that was That was good. 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:30.120 Nobody says. 0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:33.160 No, baby, listen, listen. 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:38.480 I'm like you Manifest when you say Manifest, come on, 0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:43.200 Manifest this. 0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:47.760 Manifest Manifest. Oh you're waiting. You really want me to 0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:48.600 say manifest? 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:54.160 Yeah you see no, no, no, no, no, you left the 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:54.600 tea out. 0:57:55.120 --> 0:58:03.920 She always gets the end. Manifest Manifest and take naps. 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:17.680 Yes, yes, yes, and breathe, breathe, relax. 0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:26.720 All your not giggle too, but and giggle, but don't 0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:28.120 do it at the same time as you mess up. 0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:35.440 Dance, go get your titties check. Yeah mm hmmm mmm 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:41.640 yeah yep. We love you for real, like for real. 0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.880 You know why we do because we love ourselves. That's 0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:48.640 what it is hitting for. That's real bad. 0:58:48.880 --> 0:59:00.480 This is a reflection. Okay, bye bah? 0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:12.920 How do you eat an elephant? One by time? 0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:19.640 Hey, listeners, it's Amber the producer here. My heart is 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:24.200 so full. This has been such an amazing season to 0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:26.880 spend with you all. I just want to share again 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.640 that quote from Parable of the Sewer from Octavia Butler. 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.440 All that you change changes you. 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:38.040 The only lasting truth is change. 0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:39.920 God is change. 0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:45.840 God has changed. And this is our last episode of 0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:46.320 the season. 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:51.880 Please tell your friends, family, and community about our show 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.600 and let's all eat the elephants in our lives one 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:59.480 by at a time. 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