Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to J dot L, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, good people, this is uh, this.
Speaker 3: Is Joe Scott and you're listening to J dot L
Speaker 3: the Podcast. You already know who I'm here with.
Speaker 2: The amazing, incredible Laiah Saint claud No you no you,
Speaker 2: no you, no you, and the wonderful, brilliant age of
Speaker 2: Graydon Danzler.
Speaker 3: All y'all, yes, that's all.
Speaker 2: All of us and everybody listening to, everybody listening to.
Speaker 2: I just want to thank you so much for this
Speaker 2: incredible season of J dot L the Podcast.
Speaker 3: We talked about so many things.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the lists of life experiences and information
Speaker 2: that we've been able to share with you.
Speaker 3: Some tears.
Speaker 2: Always, some hollering, keen, some beauty, some you know, some
Speaker 2: living we've been doing, some living for real, Okay. So
Speaker 2: many things have changed from when we started talking to
Speaker 2: each other on this podcast to.
Speaker 3: Right now in this minute. So many things. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: have lost some folks.
Speaker 4: We have.
Speaker 2: Watched some young people do amazing things around us and
Speaker 2: in our families. We have checked ourselves, huh, like we
Speaker 2: really checked ourselves in a lot of areas. We've been
Speaker 2: really forthcoming and honest with ourselves in some ways that
Speaker 2: were scary, in some ways that just ended up being empowering,
Speaker 2: Like this is so turned fifty. We did Wow, we
Speaker 2: did well. I did you know, like major major living, major.
Speaker 3: Life and oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Yes, we got some fibroids out of there, twenty pounds
Speaker 4: of fibroid.
Speaker 5: I'm joking, but it was close.
Speaker 2: Major changes perrymnopause.
Speaker 4: Oh girl, yes, yes, shout out to extra Van thank you.
Speaker 3: Boo oh it's like that.
Speaker 2: Oh girl, Yeah, I've been I've been dry thanks to
Speaker 2: huh oh blessings.
Speaker 3: Not everywhere.
Speaker 4: No, the face still, it goes through it when it
Speaker 4: goes through it, but it's just less as long as
Speaker 4: you can do less less less.
Speaker 5: Sweat, Yeah, that's sweat.
Speaker 3: Awesome. We're here.
Speaker 6: We're here just to get to the other side. You
Speaker 6: feel me, yes, because sometimes we're like we're on a
Speaker 6: we're literally on.
Speaker 3: A cliff sometimes and don't know what to do. What
Speaker 3: you do? You jump forward?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: Do you back up and then start running and soar?
Speaker 2: You know, nobody has like real wings, but.
Speaker 3: Our spirits do a lot. Our spirits can take us
Speaker 3: so many places.
Speaker 2: And when we add intention and uh, effort, like, man,
Speaker 2: we're powerful beings through COVID.
Speaker 3: Right, that was a lot.
Speaker 5: That was a lot.
Speaker 3: That was a lot.
Speaker 2: At first it was really really cute. You know, I'm like,
Speaker 2: about three weeks I get to be home. I'm a
Speaker 2: litting about six months for me. I was just happy
Speaker 2: to be home. And you know, you can talk to
Speaker 2: your people, you go to see what they're doing.
Speaker 4: You know they home home, ain't got no fom, ain't
Speaker 4: got no pomo because everybody inside.
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, you changed that changed, that changed that changed
Speaker 8: to go back to word and then you had to
Speaker 8: put off your tour and now you're back on tour.
Speaker 8: Everyone on tour, everybody US twenty.
Speaker 1: Three put every single person that's physically able to be
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 3: Roads on the road.
Speaker 1: I want to take this moment to thank the people
Speaker 1: of America.
Speaker 3: I thank you because I want.
Speaker 5: To trying this summer.
Speaker 3: I don't know what y'all are selling on the black
Speaker 3: market to go to.
Speaker 5: All of these shows.
Speaker 3: You appreciate you, thanks so much.
Speaker 4: With all your goddamn festivals, goddamn artists got how do so?
Speaker 3: Thank you? The music helped y'all get through the pandemic.
Speaker 3: So you're welcome.
Speaker 5: Are you right?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 4: Seriously, you know, it's so much change you we are
Speaker 4: on the precipice. It just feels and especially I tell
Speaker 4: y'all before, like living on this West coast, honey, and
Speaker 4: just feeling the tides they are changing, just at least
Speaker 4: on the way we receive these stories. It's just it's
Speaker 4: and the on the backs of mercury and retrograde.
Speaker 5: I know, you're ain't a thing, but it's just a lie.
Speaker 5: It's a change.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of people's thing though. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to negate your thing.
Speaker 2: I just think, you know, when we're talking about astrology,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, there's so many factors that go
Speaker 2: into making a person.
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's so many background You.
Speaker 1: Just don't like when people pigeonhole someone based on it,
Speaker 1: pigeonhole their own thinking, oh, you you were sanitaryus.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know how y'all are, Like.
Speaker 4: It'd be the same, but oh you're from North Philly.
Speaker 5: Oh, I know how y'all are.
Speaker 3: All right, But there is a little I know how
Speaker 3: y'all are?
Speaker 5: I mean, well, are you black? Though?
Speaker 4: And there is a little truth to that, Like that's
Speaker 4: sight so I'm just a little yes, yes, yes, some
Speaker 4: commonalities don't test me.
Speaker 3: But it's that pigeonhole portion that I can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get, I get, I get what your what
Speaker 1: your issue is with it, and I get I think
Speaker 1: it's just important for us to stay open because especially
Speaker 1: if we're talking about change, because at the age that
Speaker 1: I am now, I want to believe that I'm super
Speaker 1: open to it. But after some further unpacking, I realized that,
Speaker 1: you know, I have to.
Speaker 3: Talk myself through change.
Speaker 1: Have I definitely have, you know, I have my fears
Speaker 1: and my concerns and ways that I have to kind
Speaker 1: of quiet myself and my spirit that I didn't exactly
Speaker 1: know that about myself. Someone says, oh, you afraid to change.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no, girl, you know, I'm an artist.
Speaker 1: I love you know, you know, but you know, I
Speaker 1: realized that, you know that I struggle with it just
Speaker 1: like a lot of people do. And you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the introspection because and that's
Speaker 1: that's the part that I'm grateful for introspect, to the
Speaker 1: wisdom to be able to say, Okay, yes, I see
Speaker 1: this about myself. I'm not judging myself. But I'm just
Speaker 1: going to address it. We're just going to find some
Speaker 1: time to address it. And that way, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm ready for change. From that way, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 3: Do you think as you get older, change gets harder?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I doult.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean not that I don't know.
Speaker 5: But maybe not for our I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel that maybe you have a better tools.
Speaker 4: I feel like in our generation, I feel like generationally though,
Speaker 4: and no shade or like that's kind of what other
Speaker 4: generations have been through. But I feel like the change
Speaker 4: in the last forty years.
Speaker 5: Has been on rapid.
Speaker 4: Yes it is, and we've had to keep up with
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. Like the Internet we was
Speaker 5: like high school.
Speaker 4: I just I still say the internet we were in
Speaker 4: high school when it's hot it and it's just.
Speaker 3: I was in elementary school. Oh yeah with the big computer.
Speaker 4: Yeah you talking about before DOS you talk DOS.
Speaker 5: You're talking about that.
Speaker 2: Big ass computer that said.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I mean email an email was se.
Speaker 2: Extreme mail burden something like what is this this microwavable dinner?
Speaker 5: Like we were at the microwavable dinner people like you know,
Speaker 5: Lasania macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2: Like, I always think about my grandma, you know, because
Speaker 2: she was she's born in nineteen seventeen. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: the amount of change that she experienced in life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I was gonna say that. You know that boomers
Speaker 2: are parents, they experienced the same kind of like.
Speaker 3: Lightning bolt change.
Speaker 1: Now my mother remembers televisions not being a thing, but they.
Speaker 4: Are not expecting to keep up if a boomer I mean,
Speaker 4: so you know, the kids get mad when the boomers
Speaker 4: get they they let us miss incorrect, but you can't
Speaker 4: give us so mad. They really get pissed at us,
Speaker 4: like we best to have all our shit.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because at this point, at this point, we
Speaker 1: are the most successible adults, the same way that our
Speaker 1: parents were the most accessible adults at that time. You know,
Speaker 1: now boomers are their great grandparents or their grandparents at
Speaker 1: this point, right, you know, so that you don't expect
Speaker 1: that young people will have those kind of expectations out
Speaker 1: of their grandparents, but they do out of their parents.
Speaker 1: And so I do hear you in the sense of that, like,
Speaker 1: as a generation, we are having to contend with I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I feel like it feels harder for us
Speaker 1: because we have more language, because we have the ability
Speaker 1: to because we have the ability to unpack. What if
Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to unpack, then stuff's happening and.
Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever, that's whatever.
Speaker 1: When you have the ability, when you have the ability
Speaker 1: to unpack and you can see what's going on, that
Speaker 1: that's a mind blower. And I think for us as
Speaker 1: a generation, because we were a generation that were we
Speaker 1: were the you know, Gen X, we didn't have no
Speaker 1: We're the generation with no name, we have no purpose,
Speaker 1: we were underestimated, we were treated a certain kind of
Speaker 1: way by elders, and so we've been trying to prove
Speaker 1: ourselves and be relevant and invent things and be entrepreneurs
Speaker 1: and do all this stuff. And I think we have
Speaker 1: the ability to be self aware, But being self aware
Speaker 1: means you also have to be willing to change. You
Speaker 1: have to be you can't be halfway self aware. If
Speaker 1: you know it, you got to use it. And now
Speaker 1: we're being challenged to use it, and that that makes
Speaker 1: us different. And I think that's what's harder for us,
Speaker 1: because it's like, I know, y'all not trying to tell
Speaker 1: us we're not progressive.
Speaker 3: You was progressive when.
Speaker 4: You was twenty We was fighting the power.
Speaker 1: Now you have to understand what that means in the
Speaker 1: current context.
Speaker 3: That is a different type of chat.
Speaker 5: Progressive. You mean was progressive?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 9: Yeah, more real talk after the break.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'll tell y'all one thing. I was overwhelmed
Speaker 5: by the thought of AI. I was so overwhelmed and
Speaker 5: I didn't want to see it.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to try it, like I was scared,
Speaker 4: like I was. And then I tried it.
Speaker 5: And it's even more scary.
Speaker 4: When did you try an AI? Yeah, I tried a
Speaker 4: few things. I try to put together. I told AI
Speaker 4: to put together a pitch for this TV show idea
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 5: She did it.
Speaker 4: Now, she didn't do it perfectly. Because this is what
Speaker 4: people don't understand about AI. AI is like, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do it, but you need to check my work because
Speaker 4: there might be some wording off here, some things that
Speaker 4: you know are not here. But I'm gonna put it
Speaker 4: in a format that is a pitch. Then I'm then
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, give.
Speaker 5: Me a budget for it. Here's the budget, you know.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you a friend of mine and a writer
Speaker 4: friend of mine said he was just messing around with it.
Speaker 4: He was like, Hey, I write me a script for
Speaker 4: the Parkers set in the nineteen sixties. Jokes and all
Speaker 4: scripts done. Whoa yeah, more one more example. Shout out
Speaker 4: to my little brother Antonio. He asked a got to
Speaker 4: create an image, an image of black people at the
Speaker 4: slave the castles in Ghana, similar to a popular artist
Speaker 4: and the artist vain, but the slave the black people
Speaker 4: would be outside frolicking. I'm gonna say the artist is
Speaker 4: a very well known artist. It looked like the artists
Speaker 4: had actually created that image of black people frollicking outside
Speaker 4: of those castles.
Speaker 3: That's the part I don't know.
Speaker 2: That part like like that is scary to me because
Speaker 2: so much of humanity is really about our creativity, and
Speaker 2: you're telling me that creativity also can be microwaved.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the creativity and AI would be about
Speaker 4: the ability to do description, the art of description.
Speaker 5: That would be the creative part of that, like the
Speaker 5: way you how much you put it.
Speaker 1: Eventually, all technology turns into how can you be creative
Speaker 1: with the existing technology?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there was.
Speaker 1: You know, for us as artists, you know, there was
Speaker 1: a time when sampling was super scary to our predecessors,
Speaker 1: and when DJing or wrapping or just wrapping over beats.
Speaker 1: You mean that boobity bop hippity Patina always talks about that,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm not saying it makes it less scary,
Speaker 1: because I feel like we have to own our fear.
Speaker 1: It's okay to say that's scary to me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it might be, you know, because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, technology does change what
Speaker 1: the workforce is like, changes your everyday life, and it
Speaker 1: eliminates jobs, It eliminates certain things, and it always has
Speaker 1: it always has the cottingen, the electric plow is you know,
Speaker 1: factor street lights, street lights, right, elevators, elevator to be
Speaker 1: an elevator operator.
Speaker 3: My grandmother was an elevator operator. So I think, you know, So.
Speaker 1: It is scary because we are getting to that age
Speaker 1: where we do begin to fear our relevance in the
Speaker 1: world and to see such a very stark, stark evidence
Speaker 1: of that we and things that we have always done
Speaker 1: might not be the same and they may not need us.
Speaker 1: We're already worried about if we're needed or wanted. So
Speaker 1: I think this is a time where it's so important
Speaker 1: for us to know who we are and to love
Speaker 1: on ourselves because if we don't, we can really get
Speaker 1: caught up in the fear of this change and to
Speaker 1: keep our optimism because of the end end of the day,
Speaker 1: there are there will be those of us who will
Speaker 1: thrive in the new era.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: There's one thing, like I want you, I'm gonna name
Speaker 2: my thing, and I'd love for you to name yours,
Speaker 2: the thing that has not changed, well slightly but it
Speaker 2: has not changed that gives.
Speaker 3: You peace of mind. And for me, that thing is fishing.
Speaker 5: Hmmm.
Speaker 4: That's funny because I do watch like the Tuna Show
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, Like have they changed.
Speaker 3: Like I fly fish.
Speaker 1: It's so funny that you said that because I literally
Speaker 1: didn't think you're going to go there, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was effective. It was very effective.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fishing, fishing, it's you're even in that world.
Speaker 4: Even in sports and activities like that, things have changed,
Speaker 4: and maybe fishing this is one of the last I think.
Speaker 2: I think bowling is the same, you know, like like I.
Speaker 3: Think bowling is the same. I mean, you just the ball,
Speaker 3: hit the pins, you win. You lose fancy your colors
Speaker 3: where the depends are.
Speaker 5: But yeah, pretty much the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you know scuba diving is
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 5: Uh, scuba dive?
Speaker 3: You like that?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry a snorkel because the scuba dive is when
Speaker 4: your ears the pressure and you're about to explode in
Speaker 4: your head. I don't like that, but I do like
Speaker 4: this to snorkel.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 3: I never do the snorkel, right, but I got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not supposed to do too d you're supposed
Speaker 4: to let the thing like just I traveled with my
Speaker 4: own mask.
Speaker 5: Oh I got one dancing. Let me tell you something, Jill.
Speaker 4: When I was dancing with Asia to the Afro Beats
Speaker 4: the other night, I was like that, it ain't gonna check. Well,
Speaker 4: she's gonna get older, but I think she's still gonna
Speaker 4: be dancing the same. So, because you know, Jill, we
Speaker 4: need to be on the look. You know how you
Speaker 4: remember your birthday party the bitch shut.
Speaker 3: It down, look, slid on the water, fell, jump back
Speaker 3: up and dance some more, Jill, house.
Speaker 7: Party that the house, yes party.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I do love dancing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dancing.
Speaker 1: I pray, pray, Lord, you hear me, hear my voice,
Speaker 1: and heard that I can dance till I'm old old.
Speaker 1: If I'm to be here, old old, please let me
Speaker 1: be able to dance till I'm old old.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful. A couple of a ball. But you know what, well,
Speaker 3: what do we need? I mean, do we need things
Speaker 3: to say the same?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: Are there certain things that we need? It's a questions.
Speaker 5: Are there certain things they need to stay the same?
Speaker 3: Is there?
Speaker 2: I mean you know that you know the line that
Speaker 2: that if you're not you're not changing or growing, you're dead.
Speaker 2: You know, they're supposed to change. You know, life is
Speaker 2: supposed to change. You're supposed to change. Yeah, like that's
Speaker 2: just the way life goes.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: I am not meshing and I'm not meshing right now
Speaker 1: with energies that want me to be the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just not. And I think.
Speaker 1: I think it keeps you, you know, and not that
Speaker 1: I have an issue with being older, I don't, but
Speaker 1: I do think it gives it keeps you youthful. You're
Speaker 1: embracing of change, you know, because anything you do in resistance,
Speaker 1: the body responds as if it's in resistance right. The
Speaker 1: brain and the body starts to respond if you resist,
Speaker 1: if you are in opposition to that's what starts to
Speaker 1: manifest opposition.
Speaker 3: I just don't want.
Speaker 1: To feel that and to be and to be one
Speaker 1: hundred percent honest. I think it is absolutely possible to
Speaker 1: be at peace and not be a and still accept
Speaker 1: those things that are tough.
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is. It's real popular now.
Speaker 1: I don't know who said it, but the people been
Speaker 1: saying that I can do difficult things.
Speaker 3: Hmm, I can do difficult things.
Speaker 2: I saw jem want They say something about not being
Speaker 2: afraid to be a beginner.
Speaker 5: Talk about change. She has some change. I love her change.
Speaker 5: I'm ready for all of it.
Speaker 2: Pete the science of it all, talk about it, joke,
Speaker 2: she got it.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: I've been watching Janelle for a long time. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: Just so you know, I absolutely adore her. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of work ethic involved in that, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of forward thinking in the hope as well. Like
Speaker 2: everything that she has done has led up to hear
Speaker 2: whether we've all understood what she was doing or not.
Speaker 7: I get it, I get some of it, all, all
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 5: I hope that I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to pretend that I get all of
Speaker 4: it because I don't know her. But I feel like
Speaker 4: the button up of things, the understanding the craft. You
Speaker 4: understand how great my craft is without having to see
Speaker 4: certain things about Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2: Starting completely clothed, Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 3: For years in a uniform, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: Janelle rehearses like nobody ever seen. She rehearses till something
Speaker 2: is perfect, like un till it's literally perfect. And I
Speaker 2: remember thinking we were at the White House, and I
Speaker 2: remember thinking, where's the space, you know, for the for
Speaker 2: the I don't know the humanity in it, like you know,
Speaker 2: because I didn't quite understand. But now looking where she is,
Speaker 2: it all makes so much sense that she's like cutting
Speaker 2: through with a level of perfection, and now she's fully
Speaker 2: allowing herself outside of the craft to be free.
Speaker 9: Free.
Speaker 5: She's like free now, like breaking.
Speaker 2: All chains because she was a master at being inside
Speaker 2: of them discipline to the discipline of now and.
Speaker 3: Now she's like loose. And it's wonderful to.
Speaker 1: Think that was always the intention. Is there a I
Speaker 1: believe it's always been the intention.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, when Jills put it that way, I was like yes,
Speaker 4: because she's also always inside liftis life, Like.
Speaker 5: We've seen things behind the scenes where you know that life.
Speaker 3: All as we go.
Speaker 4: The yes yes, And then when Jill broke down the
Speaker 4: Josephine Baker piece and the fact that she was playing
Speaker 4: Josephin Baker, and then I rewinded to what she did
Speaker 4: at the active party of the Medala when she got
Speaker 4: on top of that bar.
Speaker 5: But her I was like, everything is methodical.
Speaker 3: Like it's a beautiful setup.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful setup, and she's in charge of her ship.
Speaker 4: And now we're ready to receive it too. It's weird.
Speaker 4: It's like, it was so good that to see her
Speaker 4: with these images oh my, in that beautiful body and
Speaker 4: the way that she's interacting with these women, It's like,
Speaker 4: you prepare, I'm here for this, I'm ready.
Speaker 5: For this change.
Speaker 2: I love how thoughtful she is about about this change
Speaker 2: and how she's prepared us for her change.
Speaker 3: That changes.
Speaker 2: I remember like when Andre three thousand came out and
Speaker 2: he you know, had the fun the fuzzy pants and
Speaker 2: the you know, we weren't ready, we weren't ready. It
Speaker 2: was so much discussion about it. People were not prepared
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he knew.
Speaker 2: He knew, like I feel like, for a change, you
Speaker 2: better know when you're changing, you gotta you gotta know
Speaker 2: more than anybody else could ever that this is for
Speaker 2: your benefit, this is for your freedom, this is for
Speaker 2: your your peace, your joy, for your fulfillment. And maybe
Speaker 2: people won't get it until later, until much later, but
Speaker 2: I think we've.
Speaker 1: Seen we've seen some evidence of that in the past
Speaker 1: with different artists, maybe not that exact same way, but
Speaker 1: how we didn't get it until later or until we
Speaker 1: knew the whole story, you know.
Speaker 3: I think about that with the Little Richard story with his.
Speaker 1: Documentary, and I'm not understanding until.
Speaker 3: It's all at the end.
Speaker 1: But I think more than anything, what's at the root
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about is to live uninterrupted. Like
Speaker 1: there was a clip moving around about that, and I
Speaker 1: wish I knew the sister who actually was talking about it,
Speaker 1: but she was saying, like, what is your life? She
Speaker 1: was asking this question, and y'all please forgive me, because
Speaker 1: I would love to like actually reference who said this,
Speaker 1: but it was circulating on Instagram where she was like
Speaker 1: someone that asked her, what do you think your life
Speaker 1: would be like without interruption? Or who would you be
Speaker 1: without interruption? And I think Janelle Money is an example
Speaker 1: of a person who has pondered this and kind of
Speaker 1: created a life based around who is a deal? I
Speaker 1: want to be uninterrupted? And you know, and that type
Speaker 1: of freedom and liberation you.
Speaker 4: Cannot sounds so overwhelming, it sounds so good.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, as you go ahead.
Speaker 1: It sounds good, but guess what it is also work? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see that's the thing, right, this idea about liberal right,
Speaker 1: we have this idea about liberation and freedom number one,
Speaker 1: even trying to contemplate it all already puts you in
Speaker 1: opposition to the status quo. So you know you're already
Speaker 1: dealing with that. Then you have your internalized stuff that
Speaker 1: you didn't have to go against, and then you have
Speaker 1: to be really planning and intentional about that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people have a crew, you know, a crow of
Speaker 2: a crew of people that have vision. You know that
Speaker 2: that creates the vision or assist in creating the vision
Speaker 2: for you. And then some and she may I don't
Speaker 2: know that she doesn't have people who you know, she
Speaker 2: talks about what she wants in her life, and then
Speaker 2: you know she has people to help implement those things
Speaker 2: and direct in those areas. That's awesome. M. I lost
Speaker 2: my train of thought because I want that. That sounds great.
Speaker 2: That sounds great to me.
Speaker 1: But it starts with the intention of the person themselves, right,
Speaker 1: So you can pull together whomever, but you have to
Speaker 1: have a you have to have a strength of vision
Speaker 1: her when you talk to her to have a strength
Speaker 1: of vision though, and she there's a clip of her
Speaker 1: going around now too that speaks to that as well
Speaker 1: when she talks about just being yourself. Yeah, like you know,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that conversation with the self is serious. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying whether whether I even understand it or.
Speaker 3: Not, this is like my last year of being Chill Scott, M.
Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know that I.
Speaker 5: Like I could, but you know that you sure.
Speaker 2: Know that I know that it's I'm ready to change.
Speaker 2: There are things about myself that I really really love
Speaker 2: in my artistry that I really really love. Writing will
Speaker 2: probably never change for me, like never. I love to write.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite thing. But some things are going to change,
Speaker 2: and I hope that I have the good sense to
Speaker 2: prepare you for it. You know people who are who
Speaker 2: enjoy what I do.
Speaker 3: Hope I have. I can prepare you for it.
Speaker 2: Or you won't be because because here's the part about change,
Speaker 2: you will win some and you will lose some.
Speaker 5: Oh, Janelle is definitely yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I know we could use her an example, but I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: she's got to she's got to be losing some because
Speaker 4: everybody ain't feeling all that, all that Levin owned Lady stuff,
Speaker 4: But hey, I don't matter.
Speaker 2: When Prince was like, you know, my name is now
Speaker 2: a symbol, we were like, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 5: I will say that. I will say it.
Speaker 3: But and you know then right, but what are you
Speaker 3: talking about, your prince? What do you mean? You know?
Speaker 3: But in hindsight, we understood, we understand.
Speaker 2: What he was dealing with and what he was going
Speaker 2: to do, but he had to make a major change
Speaker 2: because circumstances required required it. That it's not changed the
Speaker 2: fact that this is one of the most amazing musical
Speaker 2: geniuses ever on the planet.
Speaker 1: And it's like, how can how can we be really
Speaker 1: authentic in ourselves to the point that when we really
Speaker 1: do understand that time has come, that we accept it
Speaker 1: and we move with it, because you know sometimes that
Speaker 1: that thing whispers to you, it says it's time, gives
Speaker 1: you those indications, and people don't always know or feel
Speaker 1: comfortable to move with it, you know, and.
Speaker 5: Then it'll come and kick your in the ass.
Speaker 4: Like it tries a gentle it's a gentle pushing initially,
Speaker 4: but if you meant to change, it's gonna come kick
Speaker 4: you in your ass.
Speaker 1: Well, the universe is more powerful than these kind of
Speaker 1: systems and things that we're dealing with every day.
Speaker 3: For sure. Universe is going to is massive.
Speaker 1: It's gonna move, it's going to change, It's gonna at
Speaker 1: every single level, you know, to the molecta level, to
Speaker 1: the sound wave level, like it's going to do what
Speaker 1: it does and it's.
Speaker 3: Not going to wait on you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you can either.
Speaker 1: It's like remember when I was telling you guys about
Speaker 1: making omer and I was like, it's like a school
Speaker 1: of fish and you got to get into the rhythm
Speaker 1: to get into it right. So it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can stop in the middle of all those people
Speaker 1: moving around.
Speaker 3: You can do that, but they gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: You kind of have to get with it, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to get with it in terms of the universe,
Speaker 1: not necessarily the status quo, but how those things.
Speaker 3: Are coming up to you.
Speaker 1: You feel it in your body, you feel it in
Speaker 1: your spirit, and for many of us, and y'all know,
Speaker 1: y'all hear old people talk about this about how when
Speaker 1: you pray for something, be ready to receive what you.
Speaker 3: Play come for. You know, you be ready to receive
Speaker 3: when you.
Speaker 4: Tap in your prayers.
Speaker 5: Honey.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but once you tap in, you can't be
Speaker 1: afraid of what it reveals because everybody, everybody won't tap
Speaker 1: in right.
Speaker 3: Some people ain't tapping in.
Speaker 1: You are, You're tapped in right, But that's not the
Speaker 1: end of it.
Speaker 3: You have to receive it.
Speaker 9: We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be
Speaker 9: right back.
Speaker 4: I chuckle with God all the time because y'all know
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a big proponent of being very intentional and
Speaker 4: a particular in what you ask for God for because
Speaker 4: God will make a joke on me all the time,
Speaker 4: because He will grant my blessings and the.
Speaker 5: Deliberate, exact way. And I should have.
Speaker 4: Said, oh why I say this, But this is what
Speaker 4: I ask for God. So you are listening, so you
Speaker 4: are listening, so to that effect. That's why when change happens,
Speaker 4: I always tell people, I'm like, well, change is happening,
Speaker 4: and I know I'm in God's favor because somehow always
Speaker 4: ended up working it out.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I end up better.
Speaker 4: I'm literally I just all these changes. I feel like, yes,
Speaker 4: because of this industry and this town that I live in.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, personally, I'm feeling it on a parimental,
Speaker 4: pausal type level.
Speaker 5: I don't know when my period coming back, y'all. I'm
Speaker 5: feeling changed from a career level.
Speaker 4: I mean, I got this is the end of the
Speaker 4: season for two podcasts of what You're gonna do. But
Speaker 4: I feel like, where some people maybe go down from
Speaker 4: all these things, I feel excited, Like I feel like
Speaker 4: this is how God kicks my ass. God is like,
Speaker 4: remember you wanted to do this?
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, now here's time to play fools.
Speaker 5: Let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 4: I'm giving you a space, giving you a space.
Speaker 5: It may not be the space you asked for, but
Speaker 5: I ain't.
Speaker 4: Gonna have you starving out in these streets, so go
Speaker 4: ahead and get it done.
Speaker 5: That's what I feel about change.
Speaker 1: I posted about my my son turned twenty four yesterday
Speaker 1: and I posted this picture of us from like twenty
Speaker 1: two years ago. You're like two years old in this picture.
Speaker 1: And it was the first time we ever did Essence Festival,
Speaker 1: and we were laying on this hotel bed and I
Speaker 1: was trying to put him down for a nap, and
Speaker 1: I was two weeks postpartum from DIA and I had
Speaker 1: to I remember praying to God, Please, God, let this
Speaker 1: baby be born so I can get on this plane,
Speaker 1: because at that time, that was to that date, the
Speaker 1: largest paying gig that we had ever gotten to at
Speaker 1: that date, and so I was like, I got to
Speaker 1: get on the plane with these kids, and I can't
Speaker 1: fly with a baby under two weeks soul, so I
Speaker 1: need her to be born on her due date. And
Speaker 1: she came to day before and I was two weeks
Speaker 1: postpartum with her, and I was looking at this picture
Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself, and my girlfriend texted
Speaker 1: me and was like, girl, two weeks postpartum. I said, yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: that was back when the Kamakazi mothering was still in style.
Speaker 3: We don't do that no more. That's out of style now, right.
Speaker 1: But when I thought about it, I was like, all
Speaker 1: the sacrifices I made all of these years.
Speaker 3: The way that I moved.
Speaker 1: My change right now honestly is believing that I deserve
Speaker 1: a rest because I have just been on for a
Speaker 1: very long time. Yeah, and I wake up now and
Speaker 1: it's like wow, Like I get to decide what I'm
Speaker 1: doing with my day, Like it's really it's amazing. Actually,
Speaker 1: when I think about it, I'm not busy. Like I'm busy,
Speaker 1: but I'm not. This is not the life I was
Speaker 1: living ten years ago.
Speaker 3: It isn't.
Speaker 1: And though sometimes I worry about what will be the
Speaker 1: rest of my career and will I continue to work
Speaker 1: this way or this that and the other?
Speaker 3: Do we have a retirement?
Speaker 1: Are we going to be because Fatiina and I are
Speaker 1: not superstars, We're not none of that were working artists.
Speaker 1: We have a nice, you know following who is supportive
Speaker 1: of us. But you know, there's still always that question
Speaker 1: of what happens later And shout.
Speaker 4: Out to everybody in the gig industry where we don't
Speaker 4: have social security, we ain't got pension.
Speaker 5: No, you don't listen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right now, in this moment, I'm giving myself
Speaker 1: permission to take a damn breath. Beautiful and to live
Speaker 1: as softly as I can.
Speaker 3: Oh to the solf living, the soft living.
Speaker 1: And I don't like a trendy term, but that one
Speaker 1: has really that wouldne that would have got into my heart.
Speaker 2: I can think about the young people right now, you know,
Speaker 2: the younger, younger people than than myself.
Speaker 3: And you ladies like there's you're doing your thing.
Speaker 2: Everything is working, you're out of your parents' house, you
Speaker 2: got your own everything, it's working. All the dreams and ideas,
Speaker 2: the effort that you put forth, it's happening.
Speaker 3: And then something like COVID pops up, you know, something.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, the job that you had is letting
Speaker 2: you go for a reason it doesn't even make sense
Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, that's when change gets really really scary because.
Speaker 7: Because people went on strike.
Speaker 2: Right so now, so now what does this mean that
Speaker 2: you know the fear level can be so high? To me,
Speaker 2: it just it just I'm not trying to make light
Speaker 2: of anything. It's kind of like all right, all right, then,
Speaker 2: well back to what can you do punishing? What can
Speaker 2: you do because you still want to be able to
Speaker 2: you may not be able to maintain I mean exactly
Speaker 2: how you were living before.
Speaker 3: But you're still living.
Speaker 1: And I think the peace of mind that you have,
Speaker 1: that self awareness comes in handy at a time like that.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, it really does, because you're not you're not
Speaker 1: hinging everything on it, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like And also like, ill circle back to what I
Speaker 1: am saying. Well, she was just like, I know I'm
Speaker 1: going to be all right. I don't know what version
Speaker 1: of alright is gonna be, but I do know I'm
Speaker 1: going to be all right. And it takes a level
Speaker 1: of experience to have experienced worrying about being not alright
Speaker 1: several times and see it be okay for you to
Speaker 1: have that kind of confidence. And so this is what
Speaker 1: this age kind of is about. Also, it's like I
Speaker 1: know what I know.
Speaker 4: And we know what we ain't going back to because
Speaker 4: I tell you what I know, I ain't going back.
Speaker 5: I ain't going back to Cadisi's couch. I ain't going
Speaker 5: back to Cadizia's couch. And I know that.
Speaker 4: And I know that because I'm my blessings and I
Speaker 4: know that because of my work and I know I
Speaker 4: just I just know I have faith and I'm also
Speaker 4: manifesting that in case, yeah, cocktail, that ship, you know,
Speaker 4: praying manifest you don't face word.
Speaker 3: I wonder if we are.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny we start out talking about change
Speaker 1: and it's like it has like an excitement to it.
Speaker 1: And I realized, and I'm listening to us talking, we
Speaker 1: we've gotten soft, We've gotten a little somber. I'm saying, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I feel like excitement is good. But we
Speaker 1: you know, we cackle.
Speaker 3: And for this to be we have got no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good, but like we have gotten real, like because
Speaker 1: it is serious though, like, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: This is real.
Speaker 4: It's a it's everybody.
Speaker 1: It is a real life real And I'm glad to
Speaker 1: be able to have that conversation with y'all because some
Speaker 1: people experience and this alone.
Speaker 3: And I want to.
Speaker 1: Take this moment to say something to people who listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast, because I know that they have said
Speaker 1: on social media times when I've seen them in public.
Speaker 1: Some people this this is the kitchen table conversation for them.
Speaker 1: This is that moment to hear I'm not the only
Speaker 1: person feeling this. I'm not alone, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And for people who come to this podcast, most of
Speaker 1: them are like, I'm a huge Jill Scott fan and
Speaker 1: they love, love, love you and your music and who
Speaker 1: you are. And for them to hear you even say this,
Speaker 1: it's so important. It is really important for them to
Speaker 1: hear that level of relatability and that that says I'm
Speaker 1: not by myself, because people have a tendency in this
Speaker 1: music business in Hollywood to place people in these spaces
Speaker 1: of untouchableness, like they're not seeing the same stuff, but
Speaker 1: they're not going through the same things and feeling the
Speaker 1: same things, you know, as people for real everybody, people
Speaker 1: for real, real.
Speaker 3: For actual real. Yeah, Oh, I'm a I'm a.
Speaker 4: This freaking cat got ship that is shipp right beside you.
Speaker 5: You're gonna pay attention to the cat.
Speaker 3: He knocked over my food onto the floor.
Speaker 4: Where you're gonna pay attention should when the cat is
Speaker 4: letting you.
Speaker 2: Know the cat is telling you, and you know what
Speaker 2: the cat is telling you. You ain't paying that baby
Speaker 2: too much attention. You've been paying yourself too much attention.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets attention. Now you got to notice me. Come
Speaker 2: on there and come up behind the neck. I want
Speaker 2: you to feel my tail.
Speaker 5: Come on, now, come on, used to me. You used
Speaker 5: to be looking for you used to need me.
Speaker 3: Now you don't need me no more. Somebody else Your food.
Speaker 7: Down there, just she is down there getting it in.
Speaker 3: On my food.
Speaker 7: They even know.
Speaker 5: I ain't even know cats eight real food.
Speaker 1: Chi That.
Speaker 2: Wasn't supposed to be an example of change. My girlfriend
Speaker 2: was around all the time, spending time with the cat.
Speaker 2: Loved the cat. But she got busy. Life happens, you know.
Speaker 2: She got a new job, she got a new friend.
Speaker 2: She's spending time with a new friend working at the cat.
Speaker 2: Every time she would come in the house with dry cleaning,
Speaker 2: the cat would pee on top of her dry cleaning
Speaker 2: every time, Like, you better not put your dry cleaning
Speaker 2: down on the bed. You better hang it up and
Speaker 2: put it in the closet and close the closet. Can't
Speaker 2: do that because the cat was like, oh this plastic
Speaker 2: care and these little clothes you want to go out in,
Speaker 2: I'm a pee right.
Speaker 3: Here on your ship. You supposed to spend time to
Speaker 3: be the love me.
Speaker 5: That's the ship that change.
Speaker 3: There you go, it's some some piss pissy.
Speaker 5: Everybody okay all the time?
Speaker 3: No, no, everybody like we did that. We did.
Speaker 1: Everybody some people can't go, they tell you, so I
Speaker 1: go all the time.
Speaker 2: So you know, as you as you make some decisions
Speaker 2: or life makes some decisions for you, you already know
Speaker 2: that not.
Speaker 3: Everybody is going to be able to go with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And that's that's not a disc that's
Speaker 2: just reality.
Speaker 3: That's just reality.
Speaker 5: Certain people for certain things. It's all right.
Speaker 4: But to say a season and for a reason, and
Speaker 4: a season a reason, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I just everybody is on everybody's on their own path,
Speaker 1: you know. For really, I think a lot of times,
Speaker 1: well we'll say, oh, yeah, well this is a person
Speaker 1: who can't go, when it also might be you who
Speaker 1: can't go. It's all, you know, it's all everyone's on
Speaker 1: a different path, you know, and we all kind of
Speaker 1: interacting with each other according to.
Speaker 3: The needs of where we are on that path.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's good to think about it intentionally
Speaker 1: as you're doing the things you're doing, because they do
Speaker 1: effect all, you know what I mean. There's a yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is in the quarter and it says
Speaker 1: there are signs in it for everyone who witnesses, right,
Speaker 1: So like any person who is witnesses a thing, there's
Speaker 1: something in it for everyone who witnesses a thing, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 1: And so if we're if we're in community with each other,
Speaker 1: each of us is in community with each other for
Speaker 1: a purpose or maybe several purposes, right, And as long
Speaker 1: as we're in community with each other, each each of
Speaker 1: us is receiving something, each of us is getting some
Speaker 1: sort of perspective. And you know, and when we're not together,
Speaker 1: we're pulling from that into our other interactions, and so
Speaker 1: on and so on and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: Whoever comes into contact with those people, and those people
Speaker 1: and then some and that's how we all end up
Speaker 1: so connected with one another. And that's why it is
Speaker 1: important to think about and be self aware so that
Speaker 1: when you are interacting with others that you're pouring in
Speaker 1: beautiful things into them.
Speaker 3: So when it's time for them.
Speaker 1: To not be in communication with you or not in
Speaker 1: community with you, what they pull away from that is beauty.
Speaker 1: What they pull away from that is what was needed.
Speaker 1: And I think that for me, that's my that's what
Speaker 1: I try to do. I was writing something today and
Speaker 1: I said this about myself that I never would have
Speaker 1: said about myself five years ago.
Speaker 3: My heart is my flex. If I love you, I
Speaker 3: feel the same way I ain't gonna do you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if I love.
Speaker 1: You, you don't have any doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Word.
Speaker 3: And that for.
Speaker 1: Me, that's the way I choose to be in community
Speaker 1: with people. So I'm hoping that that's what they take
Speaker 1: away from their time with me, whether it be a
Speaker 1: short time or be decades of time.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, you know, we've said it many
Speaker 3: times before.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it again that this podcast, this J
Speaker 2: dot L podcast is is really it's been so therapeutic.
Speaker 2: It's been so to sit in therapy, Okay, is for
Speaker 2: anybody who has it, to sit in therapy, you know,
Speaker 2: with just your therapist and yourself, that's one thing, because
Speaker 2: it's almost like talking to yourself in a sense, but
Speaker 2: somebody else has given their perspective, but not judgment really,
Speaker 2: but giving a perspective and trying to help you get
Speaker 2: to where you said you wanted to go. Really, that's
Speaker 2: what therapy it is about. But being here with you, ladies,
Speaker 2: and voicing you know, concerns or voicing joys or you know,
Speaker 2: and having your perspective and having your your light shining
Speaker 2: in my direction. And then for everybody that's listening as well.
Speaker 2: It's like this powerful triangle you know that that people
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to.
Speaker 3: Get lost in for a while or found in nice
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: It is always like I've come to this podcast many times,
Speaker 2: like exhausted and concerned and you know.
Speaker 3: Afraid and alive. You know, I'm just out here living.
Speaker 2: And then I'll say a thing and an Age will
Speaker 2: say a thing and it'll bounce off my forehead and
Speaker 2: it'll pop like in the nose and she'll say something
Speaker 2: and it's it's like this wonderful energy.
Speaker 3: Of just lift.
Speaker 2: It's a lift and a man. I just love y'all,
Speaker 2: I really do. I just really do love you.
Speaker 4: I know that you know, okay, because you're best to
Speaker 4: know I.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the best part of it all, Like yes,
Speaker 1: and knowing knowing as a thing.
Speaker 3: Boy, when you know a thing.
Speaker 4: Like Age eleven, I'll be like, I know, you'll like.
Speaker 3: This becomes the prerequisite.
Speaker 1: So it's like you know, you move forward and you
Speaker 1: know all the things are in love. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and that you know not to be on our circle
Speaker 1: back because you know, I'm not as good as this
Speaker 1: as y'all are. Y'all will circle a ship back. That
Speaker 1: is that's y'all be doing that. It's so masterful. But
Speaker 1: on the circle on my I be a circle back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you know, that's how I've been able
Speaker 1: to deal with a lot of changes. It's just from
Speaker 1: knowing that I'm loved and knowing that I'm in spaces
Speaker 1: where I am.
Speaker 3: Loved, because that helps it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And us, like I said, you know, when we started
Speaker 1: doing the podcast, I was right in the middle of
Speaker 1: a lot of complicated feelings, my grief and my kids
Speaker 1: were all kind of a teenager.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Now, lots of lots of stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Working those things out with people who I know loved
Speaker 1: me is you know, blessing, No blessing, blessing. And that's
Speaker 1: why I feel like we've been able to bless people
Speaker 1: other people, because the core of it and the core
Speaker 1: of the connection there is about love, and we're leading
Speaker 1: from there and that and I and I love that
Speaker 1: because that's how we're able to talk to each other
Speaker 1: in honest ways about it all the things and.
Speaker 2: Listen to each other. Listening is really important when somebody
Speaker 2: loves you, when somebody loves.
Speaker 3: You and they tell you something. This is this is
Speaker 3: really a part.
Speaker 2: Of the biggest goal of all is to to love
Speaker 2: on you, you know as you listening to this podcast and
Speaker 2: bathtub or you know, on a toilet or the kitchen,
Speaker 2: in the kitchen wherever you are, like it, really the
Speaker 2: goal is to love on you. You know, I'm the auntie,
Speaker 2: they're the sisters, you know, or they're the cousins you know.
Speaker 2: But we want to share information with you, and we
Speaker 2: want to reveal, you know, the humanity and all of us,
Speaker 2: you know, like nobody's perfect. Nobody like nobody anywhere, like anywhere.
Speaker 2: I've never met a perfect person ever. And we have
Speaker 2: these hard conversations out loud.
Speaker 4: I love that about us, like we, like you said,
Speaker 4: we literally are sparking conversation like now you can figure
Speaker 4: out now, you can figure out a way, you have.
Speaker 3: The words, And it's not it's not just in this room,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not.
Speaker 2: That's I think that's the biggest part of it because
Speaker 2: we're having such a public conversation about real life.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 4: You know, we got to know a lot about each
Speaker 4: other on this podcast.
Speaker 5: That's the cool part.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, and you don't eve think you know somebody,
Speaker 1: but and you're like, oh wow, like I know you
Speaker 1: in a whole different way, like whole whole different way
Speaker 1: ever before yeah, and then and also too, we've all
Speaker 1: gotten older and you know, no, da da da da.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know how it's very easy to
Speaker 1: have somebody's twenty year old self like branded in your brain.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like when you grow when you grow.
Speaker 1: Up with somebody, or you see somebody when they're young, No,
Speaker 1: somebody when they're a baby, and whenever you look at
Speaker 1: them and still see a ten year old maybe like thirty,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think that's easy
Speaker 1: to have somebody's twenty or twenty five year old self,
Speaker 1: you know, just in your brain. But I think being
Speaker 1: able to intimately have these type of conversations, like even
Speaker 1: when you're friends with somebody, doesn't always mean you're having
Speaker 1: these kind of conversations.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm say saying.
Speaker 1: So having those type of conversations broken and open even
Speaker 1: so much further for me, you know, oh.
Speaker 9: More conversation after the break.
Speaker 1: I want to say something though that's slightly not slightly
Speaker 1: off topic, it's on topic, it's on the topic of change.
Speaker 1: Don't get mad at me, but it's just slightly off
Speaker 1: topic of what we're talking about now. The world is
Speaker 1: changing in some kind of interesting ways that I want
Speaker 1: us to pay attention to due you know, in particular,
Speaker 1: in particular some of these really offensive laws that are
Speaker 1: being passed, Yeah, around women's bodies, around education, in our history.
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all, they are banning books like the world
Speaker 1: is regressing. We are sitting there to the world is regressing.
Speaker 1: Some of the books and the authors that we talked
Speaker 1: about on this podcast are on the list of banned
Speaker 1: books in some of these states. Yeah, they are rewriting
Speaker 1: history even worse than the revisionists ass history that we learned.
Speaker 3: These kids are getting it even worse. I did we
Speaker 3: really think it was just gonna stop? No, I think
Speaker 3: I thought it was.
Speaker 5: I didn't think it would get work.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that we were going to revisit. It's
Speaker 2: all so foolish. It seems foolish.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell y'all something that prequel to Handmaid's tell,
Speaker 1: not not the actual prequel, but the part in the
Speaker 1: in the yeah that's prior to.
Speaker 4: To Yes, Oh, Yes, this is it.
Speaker 3: We have been, We have been on the pathway to fascis.
Speaker 1: Like so, I'm just saying I want us to pay
Speaker 1: attention to these changes, right. I want us to keep
Speaker 1: in mind, and particularly around some more controversial issues as
Speaker 1: we start talking about and using words like traditional and
Speaker 1: words like you know that that harkened to time periods
Speaker 1: that none of.
Speaker 3: Us lived in.
Speaker 1: I think that we really have to be clear about
Speaker 1: what it means to attack humanity and other people's humanity,
Speaker 1: and know that just because you may not be a
Speaker 1: part of that group, that that is an attack on
Speaker 1: all humanity because they come in for you next. So
Speaker 1: you can't allow any person, any human being, to be
Speaker 1: for and that's what happens. They try to pick a
Speaker 1: small group of people that everybody can gang up on.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling y'all, they're going to gang up on
Speaker 1: you next, and they're showing themselves to be doing it.
Speaker 1: These are changes where we cannot be comfortable with. These
Speaker 1: are the changes that we cannot fold into. These are
Speaker 1: the changes that we cannot allow ourselves to stand by
Speaker 1: and watch.
Speaker 4: I know you're speaking on it from an organization or
Speaker 4: activism level, but somewhere in my mind. You're you're also
Speaker 4: speaking on it from a political thing where you do
Speaker 4: have power at some point.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, but also on a personal level because guess what,
Speaker 1: laws can be changed, but culture and society changes because.
Speaker 3: Of the way we talk to each other.
Speaker 1: So speak up, and we're doing this on this podcast
Speaker 1: where we're taught the conversations that we're having. That's how
Speaker 1: you change culture with changing how you talk to people, right,
Speaker 1: and your feelings, your ideas is the ideas that are important,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because they can go back
Speaker 1: and change.
Speaker 3: The law versus waight is done. It's done. Did you
Speaker 3: ever think it's done?
Speaker 7: But the reason that it's done is because.
Speaker 1: All of these foul, insidious conversations and talk.
Speaker 5: So it talk changing culture. Going back to changing culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't be don't be when I when you
Speaker 1: say activism, I think people have a picture in their
Speaker 1: mind and we talked about this on.
Speaker 3: The podcast before.
Speaker 1: They have a picture in their mind and somebody with
Speaker 1: a you know, a sign and a post the board
Speaker 1: and they march it and they going to jail and
Speaker 1: d Yes, that's that's definitely disruption and it's a part
Speaker 1: of it, but part of changing. You know, the way
Speaker 1: that we do things is changing our ideas, and that's
Speaker 1: that's the thing that we do on the show, and
Speaker 1: that's what I'm hoping that we can continue to do.
Speaker 1: You know, not just after people leave the show and
Speaker 1: they go on and have their conversations with their cousins
Speaker 1: and their family and their moms and their dads and
Speaker 1: their children.
Speaker 3: You know, we can't afford to let that go. We
Speaker 3: can't change is.
Speaker 2: It can be very exciting and it can also be
Speaker 2: very frightening, depending on what that change may be.
Speaker 3: But know that you.
Speaker 2: Are guided, that you are loved, That it is a
Speaker 2: miracle that you're even here, huh, that you're even here,
Speaker 2: that you're listening to this podcast right now, or that
Speaker 2: you're that you're just sitting on a park bench, whatever
Speaker 2: it is that you're doing.
Speaker 3: Be not afraid. If there was anything to do.
Speaker 2: There are shows that I've had that I felt like
Speaker 2: I was jumping off of a building over and over
Speaker 2: and over and over again because it was scary every time.
Speaker 2: But there is something about that leap of faith. There
Speaker 2: is something about action even when you don't want it.
Speaker 3: There is something.
Speaker 2: About resilience and making a decision that some things can
Speaker 2: never happen again, and something should absolutely change.
Speaker 3: We have the right to do that. You're born to it.
Speaker 2: Know that, Know that you are loved, Know that you
Speaker 2: are a miracle, and know that it has been our
Speaker 2: pleasure to share our time with you. Blessings in real life,
Speaker 2: and then no kind of shallow saying it just to
Speaker 2: say it. Count them counter blessings. Hold on to them
Speaker 2: and appreciate the life that you have.
Speaker 3: Change is inevitable. It just is. What the fuck it is?
Speaker 2: Small more, laugh, loud, hold hands, kiss somebody slow, dad
Speaker 2: spoke weed.
Speaker 5: That's a good change. It's getting better.
Speaker 3: Make hard decisions for your benefit. What else? I don't
Speaker 3: even know. I think that was That was good.
Speaker 5: Nobody says.
Speaker 3: No, baby, listen, listen.
Speaker 4: I'm like you Manifest when you say Manifest, come on,
Speaker 4: Manifest this.
Speaker 3: Manifest Manifest. Oh you're waiting. You really want me to
Speaker 3: say manifest?
Speaker 1: Yeah you see no, no, no, no, no, you left the
Speaker 1: tea out.
Speaker 3: She always gets the end. Manifest Manifest and take naps.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, and breathe, breathe, relax.
Speaker 4: All your not giggle too, but and giggle, but don't
Speaker 4: do it at the same time as you mess up.
Speaker 2: Dance, go get your titties check. Yeah mm hmmm mmm
Speaker 2: yeah yep. We love you for real, like for real.
Speaker 2: You know why we do because we love ourselves. That's
Speaker 2: what it is hitting for. That's real bad.
Speaker 3: This is a reflection. Okay, bye bah?
Speaker 5: How do you eat an elephant? One by time?
Speaker 10: Hey, listeners, it's Amber the producer here. My heart is
Speaker 10: so full. This has been such an amazing season to
Speaker 10: spend with you all. I just want to share again
Speaker 10: that quote from Parable of the Sewer from Octavia Butler.
Speaker 3: All that you change changes you.
Speaker 10: The only lasting truth is change.
Speaker 9: God is change.
Speaker 3: God has changed. And this is our last episode of
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 10: Please tell your friends, family, and community about our show
Speaker 10: and let's all eat the elephants in our lives one
Speaker 10: by at a time. Follow the podcast on Instagram and
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Speaker 10: We love you so so much and can't wait to
Speaker 10: join you here again.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Hi.
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