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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to J dot L, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, good people, this is uh, this.

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Speaker 3: Is Joe Scott and you're listening to J dot L

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Speaker 3: the Podcast. You already know who I'm here with.

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Speaker 2: The amazing, incredible Laiah Saint claud No you no you,

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Speaker 2: no you, no you, and the wonderful, brilliant age of

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Speaker 2: Graydon Danzler.

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Speaker 3: All y'all, yes, that's all.

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Speaker 2: All of us and everybody listening to, everybody listening to.

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Speaker 2: I just want to thank you so much for this

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Speaker 2: incredible season of J dot L the Podcast.

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Speaker 3: We talked about so many things.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the lists of life experiences and information

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Speaker 2: that we've been able to share with you.

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Speaker 3: Some tears.

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Speaker 2: Always, some hollering, keen, some beauty, some you know, some

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Speaker 2: living we've been doing, some living for real, Okay. So

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Speaker 2: many things have changed from when we started talking to

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Speaker 2: each other on this podcast to.

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Speaker 3: Right now in this minute. So many things. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: have lost some folks.

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Speaker 4: We have.

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Speaker 2: Watched some young people do amazing things around us and

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Speaker 2: in our families. We have checked ourselves, huh, like we

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Speaker 2: really checked ourselves in a lot of areas. We've been

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Speaker 2: really forthcoming and honest with ourselves in some ways that

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Speaker 2: were scary, in some ways that just ended up being empowering,

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Speaker 2: Like this is so turned fifty. We did Wow, we

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Speaker 2: did well. I did you know, like major major living, major.

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Speaker 3: Life and oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we got some fibroids out of there, twenty pounds

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Speaker 4: of fibroid.

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Speaker 5: I'm joking, but it was close.

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Speaker 2: Major changes perrymnopause.

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Speaker 4: Oh girl, yes, yes, shout out to extra Van thank you.

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Speaker 3: Boo oh it's like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh girl, Yeah, I've been I've been dry thanks to

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Speaker 2: huh oh blessings.

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Speaker 3: Not everywhere.

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Speaker 4: No, the face still, it goes through it when it

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Speaker 4: goes through it, but it's just less as long as

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Speaker 4: you can do less less less.

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Speaker 5: Sweat, Yeah, that's sweat.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. We're here.

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Speaker 6: We're here just to get to the other side. You

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Speaker 6: feel me, yes, because sometimes we're like we're on a

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Speaker 6: we're literally on.

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Speaker 3: A cliff sometimes and don't know what to do. What

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Speaker 3: you do? You jump forward?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 3: Do you back up and then start running and soar?

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Speaker 2: You know, nobody has like real wings, but.

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Speaker 3: Our spirits do a lot. Our spirits can take us

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Speaker 3: so many places.

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Speaker 2: And when we add intention and uh, effort, like, man,

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Speaker 2: we're powerful beings through COVID.

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Speaker 3: Right, that was a lot.

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Speaker 5: That was a lot.

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Speaker 3: That was a lot.

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Speaker 2: At first it was really really cute. You know, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: about three weeks I get to be home. I'm a

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Speaker 2: litting about six months for me. I was just happy

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Speaker 2: to be home. And you know, you can talk to

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Speaker 2: your people, you go to see what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: You know they home home, ain't got no fom, ain't

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Speaker 4: got no pomo because everybody inside.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, you changed that changed, that changed that changed

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Speaker 8: to go back to word and then you had to

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Speaker 8: put off your tour and now you're back on tour.

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Speaker 8: Everyone on tour, everybody US twenty.

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Speaker 1: Three put every single person that's physically able to be

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Speaker 1: on the.

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Speaker 3: Roads on the road.

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Speaker 1: I want to take this moment to thank the people

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Speaker 1: of America.

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Speaker 3: I thank you because I want.

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Speaker 5: To trying this summer.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what y'all are selling on the black

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Speaker 3: market to go to.

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Speaker 5: All of these shows.

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Speaker 3: You appreciate you, thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: With all your goddamn festivals, goddamn artists got how do so?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? The music helped y'all get through the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: So you're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Are you right?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 4: Seriously, you know, it's so much change you we are

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Speaker 4: on the precipice. It just feels and especially I tell

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Speaker 4: y'all before, like living on this West coast, honey, and

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Speaker 4: just feeling the tides they are changing, just at least

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Speaker 4: on the way we receive these stories. It's just it's

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Speaker 4: and the on the backs of mercury and retrograde.

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Speaker 5: I know, you're ain't a thing, but it's just a lie.

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Speaker 5: It's a change.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of people's thing though. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: not trying to negate your thing.

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Speaker 2: I just think, you know, when we're talking about astrology,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, there's so many factors that go

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Speaker 3: You know, there's there's so many background You.

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Speaker 1: Just don't like when people pigeonhole someone based on it,

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Speaker 1: pigeonhole their own thinking, oh, you you were sanitaryus.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know how y'all are, Like.

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Speaker 4: It'd be the same, but oh you're from North Philly.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I know how y'all are.

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Speaker 3: All right, But there is a little I know how

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Speaker 3: y'all are?

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Speaker 5: I mean, well, are you black? Though?

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Speaker 4: And there is a little truth to that, Like that's

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Speaker 4: sight so I'm just a little yes, yes, yes, some

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Speaker 4: commonalities don't test me.

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Speaker 3: But it's that pigeonhole portion that I can do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get, I get, I get what your what

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Speaker 1: your issue is with it, and I get I think

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Speaker 1: it's just important for us to stay open because especially

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about change, because at the age that

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Speaker 1: open to it. But after some further unpacking, I realized that,

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Speaker 3: Talk myself through change.

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Speaker 1: Have I definitely have, you know, I have my fears

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Speaker 1: and my concerns and ways that I have to kind

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Speaker 1: know that about myself. Someone says, oh, you afraid to change.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no, girl, you know, I'm an artist.

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Speaker 1: I love you know, you know, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: realized that, you know that I struggle with it just

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful. I'm grateful for the introspection because and that's

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Speaker 1: that's the part that I'm grateful for introspect, to the

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Speaker 1: wisdom to be able to say, Okay, yes, I see

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Speaker 1: this about myself. I'm not judging myself. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to address it. We're just going to find some

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for change. From that way, I feel like

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Speaker 3: Do you think as you get older, change gets harder?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I doult.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean not that I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But maybe not for our I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel that maybe you have a better tools.

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Speaker 4: I feel like in our generation, I feel like generationally though,

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Speaker 4: and no shade or like that's kind of what other

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Speaker 5: Has been on rapid.

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Speaker 4: Yes it is, and we've had to keep up with

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean. Like the Internet we was

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Speaker 4: I just I still say the internet we were in

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Speaker 3: I was in elementary school. Oh yeah with the big computer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you talking about before DOS you talk DOS.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about that.

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Speaker 2: Big ass computer that said.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I mean email an email was se.

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Speaker 2: Extreme mail burden something like what is this this microwavable dinner?

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Speaker 5: Like we were at the microwavable dinner people like you know,

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Speaker 2: Like, I always think about my grandma, you know, because

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Speaker 2: she was she's born in nineteen seventeen. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: the amount of change that she experienced in life. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I was gonna say that. You know that boomers

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Speaker 1: Now my mother remembers televisions not being a thing, but they.

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Speaker 4: Are not expecting to keep up if a boomer I mean,

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Speaker 4: so you know, the kids get mad when the boomers

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Speaker 4: give us so mad. They really get pissed at us,

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Speaker 4: like we best to have all our shit.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because at this point, at this point, we

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Speaker 1: now boomers are their great grandparents or their grandparents at

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Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever, that's whatever.

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Speaker 1: When you have the ability, when you have the ability

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Speaker 1: We're the generation with no name, we have no purpose,

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Speaker 1: the ability to be self aware, But being self aware

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Speaker 1: you know it, you got to use it. And now

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Speaker 1: we're being challenged to use it, and that that makes

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Speaker 1: us different. And I think that's what's harder for us,

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Speaker 1: because it's like, I know, y'all not trying to tell

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Speaker 1: us we're not progressive.

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Speaker 3: You was progressive when.

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Speaker 4: You was twenty We was fighting the power.

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Speaker 1: Now you have to understand what that means in the

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Speaker 1: current context.

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Speaker 3: That is a different type of chat.

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Speaker 5: Progressive. You mean was progressive?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, more real talk after the break.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'll tell y'all one thing. I was overwhelmed

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Speaker 5: by the thought of AI. I was so overwhelmed and

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to see it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to try it, like I was scared,

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Speaker 4: like I was. And then I tried it.

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Speaker 5: And it's even more scary.

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Speaker 4: When did you try an AI? Yeah, I tried a

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Speaker 4: few things. I try to put together. I told AI

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Speaker 4: to put together a pitch for this TV show idea

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Speaker 4: I got.

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Speaker 5: She did it.

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Speaker 1: It is scary because we are getting to that age

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Speaker 2: There's one thing, like I want you, I'm gonna name

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Speaker 2: the thing that has not changed, well slightly but it

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Speaker 3: You peace of mind. And for me, that thing is fishing.

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Speaker 4: That's funny because I do watch like the Tuna Show

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Speaker 3: Like I fly fish.

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Speaker 3: It was effective. It was very effective.

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Speaker 4: Even in sports and activities like that, things have changed,

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Speaker 2: I think bowling is the same, you know, like like I.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, pretty much the same.

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Speaker 5: Uh, scuba dive?

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry a snorkel because the scuba dive is when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not supposed to do too d you're supposed

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Speaker 5: Oh I got one dancing. Let me tell you something, Jill.

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Speaker 4: When I was dancing with Asia to the Afro Beats

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Speaker 3: It down, look, slid on the water, fell, jump back

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Speaker 3: That's beautiful. A couple of a ball. But you know what, well,

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Speaker 5: Are there certain things that we need? It's a questions.

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Speaker 5: Are there certain things they need to stay the same?

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Speaker 3: Is there?

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Speaker 2: I mean you know that you know the line that

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Speaker 2: You know, they're supposed to change. You know, life is

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Speaker 1: I am not meshing and I'm not meshing right now

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Speaker 3: I just don't want.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who that is. It's real popular now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who said it, but the people been

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Speaker 2: I saw jem want They say something about not being

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Speaker 5: Talk about change. She has some change. I love her change.

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Speaker 2: Pete the science of it all, talk about it, joke,

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Speaker 2: I've been watching Janelle for a long time. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 7: I get it, I get some of it, all, all

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Speaker 4: I don't want to pretend that I get all of

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Speaker 9: Free.

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Speaker 5: She's like free now, like breaking.

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Speaker 2: All chains because she was a master at being inside

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Speaker 3: Now she's like loose. And it's wonderful to.

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Speaker 1: Think that was always the intention. Is there a I

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Speaker 4: Now, when Jills put it that way, I was like yes,

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Speaker 5: We've seen things behind the scenes where you know that life.

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Speaker 4: The yes yes, And then when Jill broke down the

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Speaker 5: But her I was like, everything is methodical.

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Speaker 3: Like it's a beautiful setup.

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Speaker 4: And now we're ready to receive it too. It's weird.

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Speaker 4: It's like, it was so good that to see her

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Speaker 5: For this change.

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Speaker 2: I love how thoughtful she is about about this change

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Speaker 2: I remember like when Andre three thousand came out and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he knew.

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Speaker 2: He knew, like I feel like, for a change, you

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Speaker 2: more than anybody else could ever that this is for

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Speaker 1: how we didn't get it until later or until we

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Speaker 1: knew the whole story, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think about that with the Little Richard story with his.

451
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Speaker 1: Documentary, and I'm not understanding until.

452
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Speaker 3: It's all at the end.

453
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Speaker 1: But I think more than anything, what's at the root

454
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Speaker 1: of what we're talking about is to live uninterrupted. Like

455
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: there was a clip moving around about that, and I

456
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Speaker 1: wish I knew the sister who actually was talking about it,

457
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: but she was saying, like, what is your life? She

458
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: was asking this question, and y'all please forgive me, because

459
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Speaker 1: I would love to like actually reference who said this,

460
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: but it was circulating on Instagram where she was like

461
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Speaker 1: someone that asked her, what do you think your life

462
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Speaker 1: would be like without interruption? Or who would you be

463
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Speaker 1: without interruption? And I think Janelle Money is an example

464
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Speaker 1: of a person who has pondered this and kind of

465
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Speaker 1: created a life based around who is a deal? I

466
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Speaker 1: want to be uninterrupted? And you know, and that type

467
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Speaker 1: of freedom and liberation you.

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Speaker 4: Cannot sounds so overwhelming, it sounds so good.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, as you go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It sounds good, but guess what it is also work? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I see that's the thing, right, this idea about liberal right,

472
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: we have this idea about liberation and freedom number one,

473
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Speaker 1: even trying to contemplate it all already puts you in

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Speaker 1: opposition to the status quo. So you know you're already

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Speaker 1: dealing with that. Then you have your internalized stuff that

476
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Speaker 1: you didn't have to go against, and then you have

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Speaker 1: to be really planning and intentional about that.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes people have a crew, you know, a crow of

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Speaker 2: a crew of people that have vision. You know that

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Speaker 2: that creates the vision or assist in creating the vision

481
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Speaker 2: for you. And then some and she may I don't

482
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Speaker 2: know that she doesn't have people who you know, she

483
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Speaker 2: talks about what she wants in her life, and then

484
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Speaker 2: you know she has people to help implement those things

485
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Speaker 2: and direct in those areas. That's awesome. M. I lost

486
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: my train of thought because I want that. That sounds great.

487
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Speaker 2: That sounds great to me.

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Speaker 1: But it starts with the intention of the person themselves, right,

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Speaker 1: So you can pull together whomever, but you have to

490
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Speaker 1: have a you have to have a strength of vision

491
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Speaker 1: her when you talk to her to have a strength

492
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: of vision though, and she there's a clip of her

493
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: going around now too that speaks to that as well

494
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Speaker 1: when she talks about just being yourself. Yeah, like you know,

495
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Speaker 1: and yeah, that conversation with the self is serious. Look,

496
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying whether whether I even understand it or.

497
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Speaker 3: Not, this is like my last year of being Chill Scott, M.

498
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Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know that I.

501
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Speaker 5: Like I could, but you know that you sure.

502
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Speaker 2: Know that I know that it's I'm ready to change.

503
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: There are things about myself that I really really love

504
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: in my artistry that I really really love. Writing will

505
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: probably never change for me, like never. I love to write.

506
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Speaker 2: It's my favorite thing. But some things are going to change,

507
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: and I hope that I have the good sense to

508
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Speaker 2: prepare you for it. You know people who are who

509
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Speaker 2: enjoy what I do.

510
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Speaker 3: Hope I have. I can prepare you for it.

511
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Speaker 2: Or you won't be because because here's the part about change,

512
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: you will win some and you will lose some.

513
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Speaker 5: Oh, Janelle is definitely yeah, I'm sorry.

514
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: I know we could use her an example, but I'm like, yeah,

515
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: she's got to she's got to be losing some because

516
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: everybody ain't feeling all that, all that Levin owned Lady stuff,

517
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 4: But hey, I don't matter.

518
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: When Prince was like, you know, my name is now

519
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: a symbol, we were like, get the fuck out of here.

520
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 5: I will say that. I will say it.

521
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Speaker 3: But and you know then right, but what are you

522
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: talking about, your prince? What do you mean? You know?

523
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 3: But in hindsight, we understood, we understand.

524
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: What he was dealing with and what he was going

525
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Speaker 2: to do, but he had to make a major change

526
00:27:53,000 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: because circumstances required required it. That it's not changed the

527
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: fact that this is one of the most amazing musical

528
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: geniuses ever on the planet.

529
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Speaker 1: And it's like, how can how can we be really

530
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Speaker 1: authentic in ourselves to the point that when we really

531
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Speaker 1: do understand that time has come, that we accept it

532
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: and we move with it, because you know sometimes that

533
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: that thing whispers to you, it says it's time, gives

534
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: you those indications, and people don't always know or feel

535
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: comfortable to move with it, you know, and.

536
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: Then it'll come and kick your in the ass.

537
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: Like it tries a gentle it's a gentle pushing initially,

538
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: but if you meant to change, it's gonna come kick

539
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: you in your ass.

540
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Speaker 1: Well, the universe is more powerful than these kind of

541
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Speaker 1: systems and things that we're dealing with every day.

542
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Speaker 3: For sure. Universe is going to is massive.

543
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna move, it's going to change, It's gonna at

544
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: every single level, you know, to the molecta level, to

545
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: the sound wave level, like it's going to do what

546
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: it does and it's.

547
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: Not going to wait on you.

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00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you can either.

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00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: It's like remember when I was telling you guys about

550
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: making omer and I was like, it's like a school

551
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: of fish and you got to get into the rhythm

552
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: to get into it right. So it's just like, yeah,

553
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: you can stop in the middle of all those people

554
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: moving around.

555
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: You can do that, but they gonna keep going.

556
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: You kind of have to get with it, you know,

557
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: you have to get with it in terms of the universe,

558
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily the status quo, but how those things.

559
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: Are coming up to you.

560
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: You feel it in your body, you feel it in

561
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: your spirit, and for many of us, and y'all know,

562
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: y'all hear old people talk about this about how when

563
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: you pray for something, be ready to receive what you.

564
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: Play come for. You know, you be ready to receive

565
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: when you.

566
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Speaker 4: Tap in your prayers.

567
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: Honey.

568
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but once you tap in, you can't be

569
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Speaker 1: afraid of what it reveals because everybody, everybody won't tap

570
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: in right.

571
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: Some people ain't tapping in.

572
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: You are, You're tapped in right, But that's not the

573
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Speaker 1: end of it.

574
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: You have to receive it.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be

576
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Speaker 9: right back.

577
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: I chuckle with God all the time because y'all know

578
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a big proponent of being very intentional and

579
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Speaker 4: a particular in what you ask for God for because

580
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: God will make a joke on me all the time,

581
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: because He will grant my blessings and the.

582
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 5: Deliberate, exact way. And I should have.

583
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: Said, oh why I say this, But this is what

584
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: I ask for God. So you are listening, so you

585
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: are listening, so to that effect. That's why when change happens,

586
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: I always tell people, I'm like, well, change is happening,

587
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: and I know I'm in God's favor because somehow always

588
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: ended up working it out.

589
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 5: Sometimes I end up better.

590
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: I'm literally I just all these changes. I feel like, yes,

591
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: because of this industry and this town that I live in.

592
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: But I'm like, personally, I'm feeling it on a parimental,

593
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: pausal type level.

594
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: I don't know when my period coming back, y'all. I'm

595
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 5: feeling changed from a career level.

596
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I got this is the end of the

597
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 4: season for two podcasts of what You're gonna do. But

598
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: I feel like, where some people maybe go down from

599
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: all these things, I feel excited, Like I feel like

600
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: this is how God kicks my ass. God is like,

601
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: remember you wanted to do this?

602
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, now here's time to play fools.

603
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: Let's go. Let's go.

604
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: I'm giving you a space, giving you a space.

605
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 5: It may not be the space you asked for, but

606
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: I ain't.

607
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: Gonna have you starving out in these streets, so go

608
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: ahead and get it done.

609
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: That's what I feel about change.

610
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: I posted about my my son turned twenty four yesterday

611
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and I posted this picture of us from like twenty

612
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: two years ago. You're like two years old in this picture.

613
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: And it was the first time we ever did Essence Festival,

614
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: and we were laying on this hotel bed and I

615
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: was trying to put him down for a nap, and

616
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: I was two weeks postpartum from DIA and I had

617
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: to I remember praying to God, Please, God, let this

618
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: baby be born so I can get on this plane,

619
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: because at that time, that was to that date, the

620
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: largest paying gig that we had ever gotten to at

621
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: that date, and so I was like, I got to

622
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: get on the plane with these kids, and I can't

623
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: fly with a baby under two weeks soul, so I

624
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: need her to be born on her due date. And

625
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: she came to day before and I was two weeks

626
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: postpartum with her, and I was looking at this picture

627
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself, and my girlfriend texted

628
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: me and was like, girl, two weeks postpartum. I said, yeah, girl,

629
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: that was back when the Kamakazi mothering was still in style.

630
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Speaker 3: We don't do that no more. That's out of style now, right.

631
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 1: But when I thought about it, I was like, all

632
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: the sacrifices I made all of these years.

633
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Speaker 3: The way that I moved.

634
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Speaker 1: My change right now honestly is believing that I deserve

635
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: a rest because I have just been on for a

636
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: very long time. Yeah, and I wake up now and

637
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: it's like wow, Like I get to decide what I'm

638
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: doing with my day, Like it's really it's amazing. Actually,

639
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: when I think about it, I'm not busy. Like I'm busy,

640
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: but I'm not. This is not the life I was

641
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: living ten years ago.

642
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: It isn't.

643
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: And though sometimes I worry about what will be the

644
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: rest of my career and will I continue to work

645
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: this way or this that and the other?

646
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: Do we have a retirement?

647
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Are we going to be because Fatiina and I are

648
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: not superstars, We're not none of that were working artists.

649
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: We have a nice, you know following who is supportive

650
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: of us. But you know, there's still always that question

651
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: of what happens later And shout.

652
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: Out to everybody in the gig industry where we don't

653
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: have social security, we ain't got pension.

654
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 5: No, you don't listen.

655
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, right now, in this moment, I'm giving myself

656
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: permission to take a damn breath. Beautiful and to live

657
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: as softly as I can.

658
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: Oh to the solf living, the soft living.

659
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: And I don't like a trendy term, but that one

660
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: has really that wouldne that would have got into my heart.

661
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Speaker 2: I can think about the young people right now, you know,

662
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: the younger, younger people than than myself.

663
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Speaker 3: And you ladies like there's you're doing your thing.

664
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: Everything is working, you're out of your parents' house, you

665
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: got your own everything, it's working. All the dreams and ideas,

666
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: the effort that you put forth, it's happening.

667
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: And then something like COVID pops up, you know, something.

668
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: Like, you know, the job that you had is letting

669
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Speaker 2: you go for a reason it doesn't even make sense

670
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, that's when change gets really really scary because.

671
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 7: Because people went on strike.

672
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: Right so now, so now what does this mean that

673
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: you know the fear level can be so high? To me,

674
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: it just it just I'm not trying to make light

675
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: of anything. It's kind of like all right, all right, then,

676
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: well back to what can you do punishing? What can

677
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: you do because you still want to be able to

678
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: you may not be able to maintain I mean exactly

679
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: how you were living before.

680
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: But you're still living.

681
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: And I think the peace of mind that you have,

682
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: that self awareness comes in handy at a time like that.

683
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Mm hm, it really does, because you're not you're not

684
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: hinging everything on it, you know what I mean. It's

685
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: like And also like, ill circle back to what I

686
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: am saying. Well, she was just like, I know I'm

687
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: going to be all right. I don't know what version

688
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: of alright is gonna be, but I do know I'm

689
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: going to be all right. And it takes a level

690
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: of experience to have experienced worrying about being not alright

691
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: several times and see it be okay for you to

692
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: have that kind of confidence. And so this is what

693
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: this age kind of is about. Also, it's like I

694
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: know what I know.

695
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 4: And we know what we ain't going back to because

696
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: I tell you what I know, I ain't going back.

697
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 5: I ain't going back to Cadisi's couch. I ain't going

698
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 5: back to Cadizia's couch. And I know that.

699
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: And I know that because I'm my blessings and I

700
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: know that because of my work and I know I

701
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: just I just know I have faith and I'm also

702
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: manifesting that in case, yeah, cocktail, that ship, you know,

703
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: praying manifest you don't face word.

704
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: I wonder if we are.

705
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny we start out talking about change

706
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: and it's like it has like an excitement to it.

707
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: And I realized, and I'm listening to us talking, we

708
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: we've gotten soft, We've gotten a little somber. I'm saying, no, no, no,

709
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: no no. I feel like excitement is good. But we

710
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, we cackle.

711
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: And for this to be we have got no no, no, no, no,

712
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: it's good.

713
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: It's good, but like we have gotten real, like because

714
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: it is serious though, like, yeah it is.

715
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: This is real.

716
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: It's a it's everybody.

717
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: It is a real life real And I'm glad to

718
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: be able to have that conversation with y'all because some

719
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: people experience and this alone.

720
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: And I want to.

721
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: Take this moment to say something to people who listen

722
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: to this podcast, because I know that they have said

723
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: on social media times when I've seen them in public.

724
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: Some people this this is the kitchen table conversation for them.

725
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: This is that moment to hear I'm not the only

726
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: person feeling this. I'm not alone, you know what I mean.

727
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: And for people who come to this podcast, most of

728
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: them are like, I'm a huge Jill Scott fan and

729
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: they love, love, love you and your music and who

730
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: you are. And for them to hear you even say this,

731
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: it's so important. It is really important for them to

732
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: hear that level of relatability and that that says I'm

733
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: not by myself, because people have a tendency in this

734
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: music business in Hollywood to place people in these spaces

735
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: of untouchableness, like they're not seeing the same stuff, but

736
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: they're not going through the same things and feeling the

737
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: same things, you know, as people for real everybody, people

738
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: for real, real.

739
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: For actual real. Yeah, Oh, I'm a I'm a.

740
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: This freaking cat got ship that is shipp right beside you.

741
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: You're gonna pay attention to the cat.

742
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: He knocked over my food onto the floor.

743
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 4: Where you're gonna pay attention should when the cat is

744
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 4: letting you.

745
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: Know the cat is telling you, and you know what

746
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: the cat is telling you. You ain't paying that baby

747
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: too much attention. You've been paying yourself too much attention.

748
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: Everybody gets attention. Now you got to notice me. Come

749
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: on there and come up behind the neck. I want

750
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: you to feel my tail.

751
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: Come on, now, come on, used to me. You used

752
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 5: to be looking for you used to need me.

753
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: Now you don't need me no more. Somebody else Your food.

754
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 7: Down there, just she is down there getting it in.

755
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: On my food.

756
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 7: They even know.

757
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: I ain't even know cats eight real food.

758
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: Chi That.

759
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: Wasn't supposed to be an example of change. My girlfriend

760
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: was around all the time, spending time with the cat.

761
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: Loved the cat. But she got busy. Life happens, you know.

762
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: She got a new job, she got a new friend.

763
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 2: She's spending time with a new friend working at the cat.

764
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: Every time she would come in the house with dry cleaning,

765
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: the cat would pee on top of her dry cleaning

766
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: every time, Like, you better not put your dry cleaning

767
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: down on the bed. You better hang it up and

768
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: put it in the closet and close the closet. Can't

769
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: do that because the cat was like, oh this plastic

770
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: care and these little clothes you want to go out in,

771
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: I'm a pee right.

772
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: Here on your ship. You supposed to spend time to

773
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: be the love me.

774
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 5: That's the ship that change.

775
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: There you go, it's some some piss pissy.

776
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 5: Everybody okay all the time?

777
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: No, no, everybody like we did that. We did.

778
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: Everybody some people can't go, they tell you, so I

779
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: go all the time.

780
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: So you know, as you as you make some decisions

781
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: or life makes some decisions for you, you already know

782
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: that not.

783
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: Everybody is going to be able to go with you.

784
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And that's that's not a disc that's

785
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: just reality.

786
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: That's just reality.

787
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 5: Certain people for certain things. It's all right.

788
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: But to say a season and for a reason, and

789
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: a season a reason, yeah.

790
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: Because I just everybody is on everybody's on their own path,

791
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: you know. For really, I think a lot of times,

792
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: well we'll say, oh, yeah, well this is a person

793
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: who can't go, when it also might be you who

794
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: can't go. It's all, you know, it's all everyone's on

795
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: a different path, you know, and we all kind of

796
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: interacting with each other according to.

797
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: The needs of where we are on that path.

798
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: And that's why it's good to think about it intentionally

799
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: as you're doing the things you're doing, because they do

800
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: effect all, you know what I mean. There's a yeah,

801
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: I think this is in the quarter and it says

802
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: there are signs in it for everyone who witnesses, right,

803
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 1: So like any person who is witnesses a thing, there's

804
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: something in it for everyone who witnesses a thing, you know.

805
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: What I mean.

806
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: And so if we're if we're in community with each other,

807
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: each of us is in community with each other for

808
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: a purpose or maybe several purposes, right, And as long

809
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: as we're in community with each other, each each of

810
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: us is receiving something, each of us is getting some

811
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: sort of perspective. And you know, and when we're not together,

812
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: we're pulling from that into our other interactions, and so

813
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: on and so on and so on and so forth.

814
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: Whoever comes into contact with those people, and those people

815
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: and then some and that's how we all end up

816
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: so connected with one another. And that's why it is

817
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: important to think about and be self aware so that

818
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: when you are interacting with others that you're pouring in

819
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: beautiful things into them.

820
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: So when it's time for them.

821
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: To not be in communication with you or not in

822
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: community with you, what they pull away from that is beauty.

823
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: What they pull away from that is what was needed.

824
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: And I think that for me, that's my that's what

825
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: I try to do. I was writing something today and

826
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: I said this about myself that I never would have

827
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: said about myself five years ago.

828
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: My heart is my flex. If I love you, I

829
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 3: feel the same way I ain't gonna do you. Yeah,

830
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: if I love.

831
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: You, you don't have any doubt about that.

832
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: Word.

833
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: And that for.

834
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: Me, that's the way I choose to be in community

835
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: with people. So I'm hoping that that's what they take

836
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: away from their time with me, whether it be a

837
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: short time or be decades of time.

838
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, you know, we've said it many

839
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: times before.

840
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it again that this podcast, this J

841
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: dot L podcast is is really it's been so therapeutic.

842
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: It's been so to sit in therapy, Okay, is for

843
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: anybody who has it, to sit in therapy, you know,

844
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: with just your therapist and yourself, that's one thing, because

845
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: it's almost like talking to yourself in a sense, but

846
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: somebody else has given their perspective, but not judgment really,

847
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: but giving a perspective and trying to help you get

848
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: to where you said you wanted to go. Really, that's

849
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 2: what therapy it is about. But being here with you, ladies,

850
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: and voicing you know, concerns or voicing joys or you know,

851
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: and having your perspective and having your your light shining

852
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: in my direction. And then for everybody that's listening as well.

853
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: It's like this powerful triangle you know that that people

854
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to.

855
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: Get lost in for a while or found in nice

856
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: it is.

857
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: It is always like I've come to this podcast many times,

858
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: like exhausted and concerned and you know.

859
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: Afraid and alive. You know, I'm just out here living.

860
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: And then I'll say a thing and an Age will

861
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: say a thing and it'll bounce off my forehead and

862
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: it'll pop like in the nose and she'll say something

863
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: and it's it's like this wonderful energy.

864
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: Of just lift.

865
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: It's a lift and a man. I just love y'all,

866
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: I really do. I just really do love you.

867
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: I know that you know, okay, because you're best to

868
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: know I.

869
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the best part of it all, Like yes,

870
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: and knowing knowing as a thing.

871
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: Boy, when you know a thing.

872
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: Like Age eleven, I'll be like, I know, you'll like.

873
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: This becomes the prerequisite.

874
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: So it's like you know, you move forward and you

875
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: know all the things are in love. Yeah, you know,

876
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: and that you know not to be on our circle

877
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: back because you know, I'm not as good as this

878
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: as y'all are. Y'all will circle a ship back. That

879
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: is that's y'all be doing that. It's so masterful. But

880
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: on the circle on my I be a circle back.

881
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you know, that's how I've been able

882
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: to deal with a lot of changes. It's just from

883
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: knowing that I'm loved and knowing that I'm in spaces

884
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: where I am.

885
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: Loved, because that helps it, you know what I mean.

886
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: And us, like I said, you know, when we started

887
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: doing the podcast, I was right in the middle of

888
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: a lot of complicated feelings, my grief and my kids

889
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: were all kind of a teenager.

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Speaker 7: You know.

891
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 1: Now, lots of lots of stuff, you know what I mean.

892
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: Working those things out with people who I know loved

893
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: me is you know, blessing, No blessing, blessing. And that's

894
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: why I feel like we've been able to bless people

895
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: other people, because the core of it and the core

896
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: of the connection there is about love, and we're leading

897
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: from there and that and I and I love that

898
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: because that's how we're able to talk to each other

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00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: in honest ways about it all the things and.

900
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Speaker 2: Listen to each other. Listening is really important when somebody

901
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: loves you, when somebody loves.

902
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: You and they tell you something. This is this is

903
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: really a part.

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00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: Of the biggest goal of all is to to love

905
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: on you, you know as you listening to this podcast and

906
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: bathtub or you know, on a toilet or the kitchen,

907
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: in the kitchen wherever you are, like it, really the

908
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: goal is to love on you. You know, I'm the auntie,

909
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: they're the sisters, you know, or they're the cousins you know.

910
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: But we want to share information with you, and we

911
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: want to reveal, you know, the humanity and all of us,

912
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: you know, like nobody's perfect. Nobody like nobody anywhere, like anywhere.

913
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: I've never met a perfect person ever. And we have

914
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Speaker 2: these hard conversations out loud.

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Speaker 4: I love that about us, like we, like you said,

916
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: we literally are sparking conversation like now you can figure

917
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 4: out now, you can figure out a way, you have.

918
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: The words, And it's not it's not just in this room,

919
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: you know, it's not.

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Speaker 2: That's I think that's the biggest part of it because

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Speaker 2: we're having such a public conversation about real life.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm.

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00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 4: You know, we got to know a lot about each

924
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 4: other on this podcast.

925
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Speaker 5: That's the cool part.

926
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, and you don't eve think you know somebody,

927
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: but and you're like, oh wow, like I know you

928
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: in a whole different way, like whole whole different way

929
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: ever before yeah, and then and also too, we've all

930
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Speaker 1: gotten older and you know, no, da da da da.

931
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know how it's very easy to

932
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: have somebody's twenty year old self like branded in your brain.

933
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like when you grow when you grow.

934
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Speaker 1: Up with somebody, or you see somebody when they're young, No,

935
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Speaker 1: somebody when they're a baby, and whenever you look at

936
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: them and still see a ten year old maybe like thirty,

937
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think that's easy

938
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: to have somebody's twenty or twenty five year old self,

939
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, just in your brain. But I think being

940
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: able to intimately have these type of conversations, like even

941
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: when you're friends with somebody, doesn't always mean you're having

942
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: these kind of conversations.

943
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm say saying.

944
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: So having those type of conversations broken and open even

945
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: so much further for me, you know, oh.

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00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 9: More conversation after the break.

947
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Speaker 1: I want to say something though that's slightly not slightly

948
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: off topic, it's on topic, it's on the topic of change.

949
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Speaker 1: Don't get mad at me, but it's just slightly off

950
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: topic of what we're talking about now. The world is

951
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: changing in some kind of interesting ways that I want

952
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: us to pay attention to due you know, in particular,

953
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: in particular some of these really offensive laws that are

954
00:50:51,239 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: being passed, Yeah, around women's bodies, around education, in our history.

955
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all, they are banning books like the world

956
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: is regressing. We are sitting there to the world is regressing.

957
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: Some of the books and the authors that we talked

958
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: about on this podcast are on the list of banned

959
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: books in some of these states. Yeah, they are rewriting

960
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: history even worse than the revisionists ass history that we learned.

961
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Speaker 3: These kids are getting it even worse. I did we

962
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: really think it was just gonna stop? No, I think

963
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: I thought it was.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think it would get work.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that we were going to revisit. It's

966
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: all so foolish. It seems foolish.

967
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell y'all something that prequel to Handmaid's tell,

968
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: not not the actual prequel, but the part in the

969
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: in the yeah that's prior to.

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Speaker 4: To Yes, Oh, Yes, this is it.

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Speaker 3: We have been, We have been on the pathway to fascis.

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Speaker 1: Like so, I'm just saying I want us to pay

973
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: attention to these changes, right. I want us to keep

974
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: in mind, and particularly around some more controversial issues as

975
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: we start talking about and using words like traditional and

976
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: words like you know that that harkened to time periods

977
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: that none of.

978
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Speaker 3: Us lived in.

979
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Speaker 1: I think that we really have to be clear about

980
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: what it means to attack humanity and other people's humanity,

981
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: and know that just because you may not be a

982
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: part of that group, that that is an attack on

983
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: all humanity because they come in for you next. So

984
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: you can't allow any person, any human being, to be

985
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: for and that's what happens. They try to pick a

986
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: small group of people that everybody can gang up on.

987
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: And I'm telling y'all, they're going to gang up on

988
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: you next, and they're showing themselves to be doing it.

989
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: These are changes where we cannot be comfortable with. These

990
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: are the changes that we cannot fold into. These are

991
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: the changes that we cannot allow ourselves to stand by

992
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: and watch.

993
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: I know you're speaking on it from an organization or

994
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: activism level, but somewhere in my mind. You're you're also

995
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: speaking on it from a political thing where you do

996
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 4: have power at some point.

997
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: Right, yes, but also on a personal level because guess what,

998
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: laws can be changed, but culture and society changes because.

999
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: Of the way we talk to each other.

1000
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: So speak up, and we're doing this on this podcast

1001
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: where we're taught the conversations that we're having. That's how

1002
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: you change culture with changing how you talk to people, right,

1003
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: and your feelings, your ideas is the ideas that are important,

1004
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because they can go back

1005
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: and change.

1006
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: The law versus waight is done. It's done. Did you

1007
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: ever think it's done?

1008
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 7: But the reason that it's done is because.

1009
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: All of these foul, insidious conversations and talk.

1010
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: So it talk changing culture. Going back to changing culture.

1011
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't be don't be when I when you

1012
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: say activism, I think people have a picture in their

1013
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: mind and we talked about this on.

1014
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: The podcast before.

1015
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: They have a picture in their mind and somebody with

1016
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: a you know, a sign and a post the board

1017
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: and they march it and they going to jail and

1018
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: d Yes, that's that's definitely disruption and it's a part

1019
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: of it, but part of changing. You know, the way

1020
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: that we do things is changing our ideas, and that's

1021
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: that's the thing that we do on the show, and

1022
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: that's what I'm hoping that we can continue to do.

1023
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: You know, not just after people leave the show and

1024
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: they go on and have their conversations with their cousins

1025
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: and their family and their moms and their dads and

1026
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: their children.

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00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: You know, we can't afford to let that go. We

1028
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: can't change is.

1029
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: It can be very exciting and it can also be

1030
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: very frightening, depending on what that change may be.

1031
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: But know that you.

1032
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: Are guided, that you are loved, That it is a

1033
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: miracle that you're even here, huh, that you're even here,

1034
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: that you're listening to this podcast right now, or that

1035
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: you're that you're just sitting on a park bench, whatever

1036
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: it is that you're doing.

1037
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 3: Be not afraid. If there was anything to do.

1038
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: There are shows that I've had that I felt like

1039
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: I was jumping off of a building over and over

1040
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: and over and over again because it was scary every time.

1041
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: But there is something about that leap of faith. There

1042
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: is something about action even when you don't want it.

1043
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: There is something.

1044
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: About resilience and making a decision that some things can

1045
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: never happen again, and something should absolutely change.

1046
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: We have the right to do that. You're born to it.

1047
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: Know that, Know that you are loved, Know that you

1048
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: are a miracle, and know that it has been our

1049
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: pleasure to share our time with you. Blessings in real life,

1050
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: and then no kind of shallow saying it just to

1051
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: say it. Count them counter blessings. Hold on to them

1052
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: and appreciate the life that you have.

1053
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 3: Change is inevitable. It just is. What the fuck it is?

1054
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: Small more, laugh, loud, hold hands, kiss somebody slow, dad

1055
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: spoke weed.

1056
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 5: That's a good change. It's getting better.

1057
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: Make hard decisions for your benefit. What else? I don't

1058
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: even know. I think that was That was good.

1059
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: Nobody says.

1060
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: No, baby, listen, listen.

1061
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: I'm like you Manifest when you say Manifest, come on,

1062
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: Manifest this.

1063
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: Manifest Manifest. Oh you're waiting. You really want me to

1064
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: say manifest?

1065
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you see no, no, no, no, no, you left the

1066
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: tea out.

1067
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: She always gets the end. Manifest Manifest and take naps.

1068
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, and breathe, breathe, relax.

1069
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 4: All your not giggle too, but and giggle, but don't

1070
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 4: do it at the same time as you mess up.

1071
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: Dance, go get your titties check. Yeah mm hmmm mmm

1072
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: yeah yep. We love you for real, like for real.

1073
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: You know why we do because we love ourselves. That's

1074
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: what it is hitting for. That's real bad.

1075
00:58:48,880 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: This is a reflection. Okay, bye bah?

1076
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 5: How do you eat an elephant? One by time?

1077
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 10: Hey, listeners, it's Amber the producer here. My heart is

1078
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 10: so full. This has been such an amazing season to

1079
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 10: spend with you all. I just want to share again

1080
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 10: that quote from Parable of the Sewer from Octavia Butler.

1081
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: All that you change changes you.

1082
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 10: The only lasting truth is change.

1083
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 9: God is change.

1084
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: God has changed. And this is our last episode of

1085
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 3: the season.

1086
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 10: Please tell your friends, family, and community about our show

1087
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 10: and let's all eat the elephants in our lives one

1088
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 10: by at a time. Follow the podcast on Instagram and

1089
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 10: Twitter at Jill Scott Podcast to keep up with us

1090
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 10: and stay up to date on new seasons and episodes.

1091
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 10: We love you so so much and can't wait to

1092
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 10: join you here again.

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01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Hi.

1094
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: If you have comments on something we said in this

1095
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: episode called eight six six, Hey, Jill, if you want

1096
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: to add to this conversation, that's eight, six, six, four, three, nine, five,

1097
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 2: four five five. Don't forget to tell us your name

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01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: and the episode you're referring to. You might just hear

1099
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: your message on a future episode.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents Jay dot Il.

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01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: The podcast.

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