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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show, everybody, and we appreciate you being here. We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get to. Breaking news right from

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Speaker 1: this morning before we came on the air. There have

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Speaker 1: been some guilty verdicts, including guilt for seditious conspiracy of

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Speaker 1: some of the former Proud Boys over the January sixth attack.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss. I think this is tying into the

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Speaker 1: overall strategy of what they're going to do to Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump down the line and possible federal charges there. We

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Speaker 1: will discuss that. Clay and I will dive into it

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Speaker 1: together in a little bit. Anheuser Busch has disavowed the

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Speaker 1: Dylan mulvaney campaign, but they're now blaming an outside ad agency.

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Speaker 1: So they know this is a disaster, but they're not

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Speaker 1: really apologizing. They're just saying not really our fault. That's

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Speaker 1: certainly something we will get into. Meanwhile, the Navy has

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Speaker 1: put out a digital ambassador advertisement or recruiting purposes of

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Speaker 1: a drag performer. That's an interesting move for the Navy.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss. New York has set in motion a ban

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Speaker 1: on gas stoves. This is most interesting to the New

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Speaker 1: Yorkers listening, I think, because we were all told that

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Speaker 1: this wasn't going to happen. Don't be worried about this.

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Speaker 1: It's just a right wing conspiracy. Now it's happening. What

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Speaker 1: starts out as conspiracy seems to become reality. It's just

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Speaker 1: a question of about six months these days in the

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Speaker 1: news cycle, and we'll get into that and some more.

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Speaker 1: We also have our friend Kaylie Macinennie joining us in

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Speaker 1: the third hour of the program. You know her from

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Speaker 1: Fox News, formerly of the White House where she was

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Speaker 1: Trump's press secretary. She's got a new book out. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to her. But the thing I want to get

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Speaker 1: to first today is this incident. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: important that people can see for themselves what happened on

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Speaker 1: the New York City subway because there is clear video

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Speaker 1: footage of it. So this is one of those incidents

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Speaker 1: where we'll describe it here, but we'll put up at

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Speaker 1: clayanbuck dot com a link.

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Speaker 2: To the video.

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Speaker 1: It is disturbing. It's just it's people having to having

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Speaker 1: to restrain an individual and he ended up dying as

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Speaker 1: a result. Of the restraint. We will get into this

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Speaker 1: right now. The protesters are already in the subway over this.

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Speaker 1: The BLM movement in New York City is mobilizing. What

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Speaker 1: happened is you had an individual, Jordan Neely, who has

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Speaker 1: been arrested over forty times, had an outstanding warrant for

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Speaker 1: felony assault at the time of the incident. He has

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Speaker 1: a long history of threatening death against random subway riders,

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Speaker 1: harassing women, screaming obscenity in people's faces. He's being presented

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Speaker 1: as a Michael Jackson impersonator on social media by a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, which that is part of the story.

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Speaker 1: But he is also somebody who has been arrested over

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Speaker 1: forty times and had an outstanding felony warm. What happened

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Speaker 1: was he started clay to shout at people on the subway.

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Speaker 1: We don't have all the specifics as to what he

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Speaker 1: was shouting, but profanity, obscenity, threats, you know, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to you know, blank you up, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: do this in that and a marine former marine put

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Speaker 1: him in a chokehold to subdue him. Two other individuals

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Speaker 1: helped the marine. This wasn't just one guy acting by

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Speaker 1: himself to other including an African American man who was

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Speaker 1: holding the arms of Jordan Neil. Jordan Neely is black,

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Speaker 1: which plm of course, I mean you could assume based

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Speaker 1: on the reaction. Here. These are the details of the

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Speaker 1: case based on the fact that AOC has weighed in clay.

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Speaker 1: This is a massive national news story now because of

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Speaker 1: the implications of the narrative. And by the way, here

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Speaker 1: is a crowd of people on the subway just yesterday,

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Speaker 1: play clip one protesting it. All right, we get the idea,

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Speaker 1: so play I lived in New York for many, many,

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Speaker 1: and in recent years it just became essentially expected. If

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Speaker 1: true lunatics who often are partially dressed, who smell like

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Speaker 2: So several things here. One, this is what we have

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Speaker 2: been talking about on this program for years now. It's

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Speaker 2: not BLM, it's not black lives matter, it's black lives

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Speaker 2: matter when white individuals are involved in black deaths in

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Speaker 2: The only reason this is a story is because a

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Speaker 2: the guy is like, who this marine former marine like,

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Speaker 2: what his background is. We don't know exactly what happened

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Speaker 2: in terms of how this guy died, what sort of

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Speaker 2: out of what sort of drugs potentially was this individual?

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Speaker 2: Jordan Neely on, were there any substances in his body

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Speaker 2: at all? What does the full import of this look like?

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Speaker 2: But at its most basic level, Buck, you've talked about

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Speaker 2: way that a lot of people want to respond to

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Speaker 2: violence that they see happening because the cities are not safe.

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Speaker 2: Most people aren't willing to do it because they fear

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Speaker 2: becoming the target. Like this marine who's acted out now

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Speaker 2: has right. It would have been relatively easy. How long

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Speaker 2: ago did we play audio of that dad getting screamed

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Speaker 2: at by the crazy black guy on the subway, horrible

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Speaker 2: time you and I both said, I said, as a dad,

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Speaker 2: I would hate to do it, but I probably would

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Speaker 2: have just taken it because the moment that you act

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Speaker 2: out one that guy might be armed. You might get stabbed,

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Speaker 2: your kid, your wife might get stabbed. But also if

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Speaker 2: you act out against him, you don't know that you

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Speaker 2: aren't going to become the target, because you know, let's

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Speaker 2: say you land a punch on somebody, they fall, they

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Speaker 2: charging you with murder. Alvin Bragg will likely, i would imagine,

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Speaker 2: That's my expectation based on what we saw happen to

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Speaker 2: the bodega guy who that was on video two. Now

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Speaker 2: And let me just say this too, because I flagged

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Speaker 2: white people hate the media so much. There was a

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Speaker 2: poll what percentage of people believe that the media exists

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Speaker 2: four percent. Fuck, only six percent of people think media

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Speaker 2: decreases polarization. This story is going to go viral, its

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Speaker 1: So the Mayor of New York, Eric Adams, so far

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Speaker 1: has seemed like he's in a weight and C mode

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Speaker 2: So that is what he should do. To be fair,

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Speaker 2: that's what the mayor should do.

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Speaker 1: But he is also so Eric Adams, mayor of New

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Speaker 1: York City, former MOPD. He's a black guy. He was

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Speaker 1: elected to clean up the city, right, That was the basics.

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Speaker 1: He was formerly of the NYPD and the basic premises

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Speaker 1: reached a point in time where the perception is it's

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Speaker 1: just too much. It's not even only the numbers that

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Speaker 1: you hear about the shootings and the stabbings and the rapes,

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Speaker 1: But you shouldn't have to think every time you get

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Speaker 1: kill you, Shout that he wants to paralyze you, Shout

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Speaker 1: that he's gonna rape you, grab somebody, threaten somebody, all

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Speaker 1: of that is illegal, by the way, Yes, but this

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Speaker 1: happens constantly in the subway, This happens constantly on the

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Speaker 1: streets of New York City. Clay, I'll even tell you.

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Speaker 1: And the year before I moved, this happened to me

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Speaker 2: Well, you've said this on the show, that you've made

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Speaker 2: a conscious decision before not to get involved with people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, because if you and people who understand

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Speaker 1: the dynamics here know that, you always get into comments

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I would have.

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Speaker 1: First of all, some of the individuals who are making

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of them are are lead larger and

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Speaker 1: you know that they didn't do anything, They were minding

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Speaker 1: their own business. Who does the city believe? Well, as

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Speaker 1: expect that the politics will be paramount in the mind

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Speaker 1: of Alvin Bragg and the rest of the Democrat system.

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Speaker 1: What happens if someone intervenes, or even someone just defends themselves.

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Speaker 1: But the person who has a long criminal record and

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Speaker 1: was you know, the instigator of this, says, well, he

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Speaker 1: called me a racial slur. First, do you think Alvin

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Speaker 1: Bragg brings charges again? It's the individual or not? Right,

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Speaker 1: You start to look at the dynamics and you understand

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Speaker 1: that Democrats have decided to effectively legalize crime under certain circumstances,

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Speaker 1: in certain contexts. I mean this premise that BLM is

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Speaker 1: down in the subways. This is all rooted in the

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Speaker 1: notion that interracial violences is predominantly First of all, that

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Speaker 1: the judicial system and the criminal justice system are racists,

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Speaker 1: which is something that we should all have to discuss.

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Speaker 1: In what way is it racist? Please explain how it

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Speaker 1: is racist. But beyond that, when you look at the

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Speaker 1: dynamics of interracial violence, and this is all very clear

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Speaker 1: from the statistics, it is eighty to ninety percent black

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Speaker 1: against white or black perpetrator white victim in the ten

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Speaker 1: this whole crusade to make everyone think this is happening. Ever,

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Speaker 1: this is happening all the time. They're calling it as

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Speaker 1: a data lie. They're calling it a lynching.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to call it a lynching. To your point,

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Speaker 2: almost all racial violence occurs inside the same race, right,

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Speaker 2: So if you're black, you're overwhelmingly likely to be killed

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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly likely to be killed by a white person. That

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Speaker 2: is what the data reflects. The data also reflects, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you're a VIP. Joe wright In wrote in and say,

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Speaker 2: average Joe's who aren't into boycotts, don't really care that

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. I don't even know. But I

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Speaker 3: Hey man, I absolutely think we should keep the heat on.

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Speaker 2: This is thanks for the call, Buck. This is the

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Speaker 1: You're the American CEO, right, so and so the the

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Speaker 2: I just say I think the challenge they would run

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Speaker 2: I almost think that bud Light has to do that

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Speaker 2: think you just open up your pocketbook and spend in

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Speaker 2: a way that reflects who actually consumes your product, and

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Speaker 2: you stop worrying about trying to appeal to people who

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Speaker 2: will never drink your beer. Right, if you watch football,

435
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Speaker 2: you'll probably drink a bud Light. That's who you should

436
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Speaker 2: be advertising to. You shouldn't be trying to advertise to

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Speaker 2: a community by and large that even if they started,

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Speaker 2: like if even imagine Buck, Imagine if people watch the

439
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Speaker 2: Dylan mulvany clip and every trans person in America suddenly said, man,

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Speaker 2: I love bud Light. I'm only going to drink bud Light. Now,

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Speaker 2: what do you increase your sales by zero point one percent?

442
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Speaker 2: Said right, I mean the market that they're trying to

443
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Speaker 2: play Kate is almost non existent, and in so doing,

444
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Speaker 2: their alienating their base. It's one of the worst decisions

445
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Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Saint Louis, Chris, appreciate all the people

446
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Speaker 2: listening in Saint Louis, the home of Anheuser Bush. How

447
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Speaker 2: is this playing there? Chris?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree with you guys. It's like we

449
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Speaker 5: need to keep hammering them, make an example. It's like

450
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Speaker 5: that you don't do this. It's like they've they've mainly

451
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Speaker 5: made this more of a political thing, even though they're

452
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Speaker 5: trying to backtrack now and say, oh, we didn't try

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Speaker 5: to do anything like that, you guys. I mean when

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Speaker 5: when they first for soold the MBEV, It's like a

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Speaker 5: lot of us weren't happy about it, and I actually

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Speaker 5: stopped drinking a little bit. I started drinking other products

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Speaker 5: then not I mean, I still drink them, but light

458
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Speaker 5: every once in a while, but after this mess, I'm

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Speaker 5: totally done. I mean, I am not drinking.

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Speaker 1: Well you know it raised you raised it a really

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Speaker 1: interesting point too. And this also, uh, thank you for

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Speaker 1: calling in. And this also goes to what Clay was saying.

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Speaker 1: How long before people, you know, just the notion like

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Speaker 1: like for the next few months. If I'm out with

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Speaker 1: Clay and he's drinking a beer and he just asked

466
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Speaker 1: the bar here and just give me whatever you have

467
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Speaker 1: on tap, and all of a sudden, the bud light

468
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Speaker 1: shows up or something right, it comes in a bud

469
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Speaker 1: light glass. I'm gonna make a joke to Clay.

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Speaker 2: Last hide at dinner, one of our advertisers, when I

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Speaker 2: ordered a beer was like, oh, you sure you don't

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Speaker 2: want to bud light?

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Speaker 1: Oh I said that.

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Speaker 2: You said that. I thought it was one of the

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Speaker 2: adverts with me you were making you were making.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the I knew I was.

477
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Speaker 2: Being made fun of. To your point, how many guys

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Speaker 2: out there, when you sit down with your buddies at

479
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Speaker 2: the bar, are making that joke.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to bud light or you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're out with your buddies and like one of the

482
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Speaker 1: mess to you know, is like, oh man, the wife says,

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Speaker 1: I got to get home early.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: They're like, we got a bud Light drink for a long.

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Speaker 1: It's like this has kind of become a punchline for

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Speaker 1: people too. And I just wonder how long that lasts,

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Speaker 1: how long that continues on? Laurie in Ashville, North Carolina,

489
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Speaker 1: which is a place that's going through some communist madness.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, Laurie, Oh, I'm not over here in Ashview.

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Speaker 1: How we're good? Well, do you think we keep the

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Speaker 1: heat on with bud Light?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: Keep the heat on, absolutely, because I think it's.

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Speaker 2: About time that conservatives have are.

496
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Speaker 3: Making a stand, you know, and.

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Speaker 6: Something, and we need to keep making a stand.

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Speaker 1: And maybe this will start a trend that we could

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Speaker 1: make a stand and.

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Speaker 2: Other things and just stand up against.

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Speaker 1: These people, you know.

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Speaker 2: I agree. Thank you for the call, Laurie. I think

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Speaker 2: it's the brushback pitch value is strong here because I

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Speaker 2: guarantee you bud Light is panicked. But how many other

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Speaker 2: brands out there buck are having secret meetings where they're like,

506
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Speaker 2: do not do this? Right? If you run a brand

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Speaker 2: that is appealing to seventy percent men. Let's say, if

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Speaker 2: you are running and I'm just talking bass Pro shops,

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Speaker 2: if you own Brett bass Pro Shops, I bet seventy

510
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Speaker 2: percent of their population is male. I bet it's a

511
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Speaker 2: very similar overlap. I'm guessing with bud Light. If I

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Speaker 2: ran bass Pro Shops, I would be sitting down in

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Speaker 2: front of my marketing team and I'd be I would

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Speaker 2: be like listening to here, and there'd probably be a

515
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Speaker 2: bunch of expletives. I'd better not wake up one morning

516
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Speaker 2: and find out that you knuckleheads have lit our brand

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Speaker 2: on fire by deciding to go after people who are

518
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Speaker 2: never going to shop in our place in the first place.

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Speaker 2: And this is I bet there are brand Cracker Barrel,

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Speaker 2: whoever they are, like whoever the brands are. If you

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Speaker 2: did like a float chart and you thought to yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you drink bud Light, you probably shop wear Walmart,

523
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Speaker 2: you probably eat and I'm just sketching out here, probably

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Speaker 2: eat at Applebee's and Cracker Barrel. And like I would say,

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Speaker 2: if you make those decisions, they are lighting themselves on fire.

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Speaker 2: We better not do it. Mac by the way, in

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Speaker 2: North Branford, Connecticut. What you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Hi actually Branford, Connecticut. But I'm just I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 4: is the obviously the budd Light problem, but as Budweiser,

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Speaker 4: is that going through all the other brands, it's still

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Speaker 4: the same company and they are they getting a requestion

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Speaker 4: on uh sale?

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good question because they own a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of different brands. And so if

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Speaker 1: somebody's switching from bud Light to Stella Artoa, guess what

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Speaker 1: money's going to the same company. That's a good question, Mike.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll look into that a little bit. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: The data, by the way, Bucks shows that they're going

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Speaker 2: to Miller Lite and course like, so they're not staying

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Speaker 2: inside the same brand.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Clay had the answer ready for you. You know,

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Speaker 1: for a lot of folks out there, this is what

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Speaker 1: range day is like. You go to the range. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've seen this, saw this last time I was out there.

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Speaker 1: You go to the range, you're you're in a line

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Speaker 1: of people and you're shooting. You know, you're you pop

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Speaker 1: off a few rounds. You know, the range instructors say

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Speaker 1: all right, everybody go get your targets or whatever. Are

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Speaker 1: you getting any better? I mean, really ask yourself this

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Speaker 1: when you go shooting. Do you want to get better?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to improve your skills? I mean, if

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Speaker 1: the answer is yes, if you want better shooting mechanics,

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Speaker 1: you want to enjoy shooting more because you're refining your

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Speaker 1: skill set, becoming more confident with you're shooting. You've got

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Speaker 1: to check out the MANTUSX system. I've got a Mantis

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Speaker 1: X at home. It comes, it's in a little pouch.

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Speaker 1: It's so straightforward. You set it up, you put it

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Speaker 1: on your existing farm, you put it on your on

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Speaker 1: your side arm, and you download the app. And what

560
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Speaker 1: it will do is give give you data based on

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Speaker 1: your technique. It's dry fire practice. This data will tell

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Speaker 1: you are you pulling down left when you shoot? How

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Speaker 1: is your how is your trigger pull? Are you steady

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Speaker 1: on it? Dry fire practice at home, we're at the range.

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Speaker 1: Is the best way to get better without spending a

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Speaker 1: lot of money on Ammo. By the way, so I

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Speaker 1: do this in home. I sit in my chair in

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Speaker 1: my office. I set up with my MANTISX system. I've got,

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Speaker 1: you know, my side arm. I attach it right to

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Speaker 1: it and I get better at shooting. So now I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the range. Guess what my target grouping

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Speaker 1: is better? My uh, my basic shooting mechanics improve. It's

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Speaker 1: all data driven. I'll give you a score out of

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Speaker 1: one hundred. Get a Mantis X system for yourself. It

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Speaker 1: attaches to your firearm just like a weapon light. It's

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Speaker 1: so straightforward and fountain. Ninety four percent of shooters get

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Speaker 1: better just from using this one time. You're gonna improve

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and the more you use it, the

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Speaker 1: better you get. You're gonna see this for yourself and

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Speaker 1: you go out to the range. So you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about it getting out there to the range

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Speaker 1: when you can. But if you want to be getting better,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be improving your skills as somebody,

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Speaker 1: as as a marksman, guy, girl, whatever, you're out there,

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Speaker 1: got to get a Mantis X system m A and

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's a great gift for people too.

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Speaker 1: If you know somebody who's big into the second Amendment.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna help them. You know, you're not trying

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Speaker 2: You don't know what's you don't know right, but you could.

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Speaker 1: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, the

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Speaker 1: third hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: just want to give you a roadmap of where we're

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Speaker 1: going here and also a little bit of what we're

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Speaker 1: going to be getting into tomorrow. This hour, we have

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Speaker 1: Kaylee Mcanenny joining us. You know her from being well

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Speaker 1: out numbered Fox. It is also Trump's White House Press secretary,

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Speaker 1: friend of ours, and I've known keaylle now Klay, this

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Speaker 1: is when I start to feel old. I've known Kaylee

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Speaker 1: for twelve years. It's going back aways now and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to her about her new book, which is out.

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Speaker 1: We also had mentioned there are these guilty verdicts that

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Speaker 1: have come down for members of the Proud Boys group

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Speaker 1: in relation to January sixth. We're following that news. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we want to talk more about it. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Julie Kelly joining us tomorrow on that because she she's

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Speaker 1: been following that super closely. She want to get into

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Speaker 1: the details and bring in her expertise on this. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's been following the January trials really

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Speaker 1: more closely than her. I mean, there are some who

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Speaker 1: might be right alongside her, but I think the big

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Speaker 1: first of all, the fact that they got them on

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Speaker 1: seditious conspiracy effectively to overthrow the United States government. Shows

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Speaker 1: you that they're now imprisoning people for up to twenty

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Speaker 1: years for that, which is which is major. You have

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Speaker 1: something to throw out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think this is important. Julie tweeted, they

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Speaker 2: started the seditious conspiracy charge and I want to hit

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Speaker 2: you with this and we'll give her the details on

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Speaker 2: this tomorrow. But I think it's setting the table for

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Speaker 2: what's coming, which is what you said in the first hour.

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Speaker 2: They're going to try to tie these convictions in to Trump,

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Speaker 2: DOJ claimed, I'm reading from Julie's tweet. DOJ claimed. The

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Speaker 2: Proud Boy seditious conspiracy plot began on December nineteenth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. What twenty twenty? Why is that significant? On

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Speaker 2: that exact day, Trump tweeted, Peter Davarro releases thirty six

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Speaker 2: page report alleging election fraud more than sufficient to swing

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Speaker 2: the victory to Trump. A great report by Peter statistically

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Speaker 2: impossible to have lost the twenty twenty election. Big protest

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Speaker 2: in DC on January sixth, be there will be wild

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Speaker 2: This is about Trump.

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Speaker 1: Not Yes, they're going to In my mind, in Clay's mind,

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Speaker 1: I think we see this one the same way. They're

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Speaker 1: going to try to bring a seditious conspiracy charge against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump that he said, now that they've gotten the

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Speaker 1: convictions of Proud Boys. Yes, they are the henchmen of

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Speaker 1: the overthrow. Who is the overlord? Who is the top?

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Speaker 1: Just get This is why I say you can't convict

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Speaker 1: somebody of that and not send them to prison. They

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Speaker 1: want to send Donald Trump to prison. That is the

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Speaker 1: plan while he's running for president. This is what they're

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Speaker 1: going to do. We'll talk to Julie Moore about this tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But I just wanted everyone to know that we are

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Speaker 1: following this and we are going to continue to look

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Speaker 1: at that story. Now, another thing that's coming on the horizon,

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Speaker 1: and we've already set up some expertise from next week

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Speaker 1: when Title forty two expires. Interesting, I think Lindsay Graham

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Speaker 1: and some other Republicans are saying, extend Title forty two.

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Speaker 1: It can extend Title forty two forever, because it's a pandemic.

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Speaker 1: You know, at some point it becomes too absurd. And

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Speaker 1: I actually think that the idea that you would continue

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Speaker 1: with Title forty two is counterproductive because people should see

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Speaker 1: what the real Biden policy at the border is, without

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Speaker 1: any you know, obfuscation, without hiding it at all. And

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Speaker 1: you've had even some Democrats pointing out this is a

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Speaker 1: big problem for their cities. Now, this was fascinating Mayor

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams, who we started off talking about because of

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Speaker 1: the case in New York, well, the incident right now

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Speaker 1: New York of Jordan Neely and what happened on the subway.

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams is withholding you know, serious comment one side

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Speaker 1: or the other about what he thinks about this one.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where he takes that. But here he is

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Speaker 1: on Governor Abbot of Texas. This is a claim made

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Speaker 1: by the Democrat mayor of New York City that Abbot,

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Speaker 1: Texas governor is trying to quote hurt black run cities.

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Speaker 1: Play three.

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Speaker 7: Governor Abbot sent assylum seekers to New York, black mayor,

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Speaker 7: to Washington, black mayor to Houston, black mayor to Los Angeles,

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Speaker 7: black mayor, to Denver, black mayor. He passed over thousands

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Speaker 7: of cities to land here. And so I don't think

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Speaker 7: El Paso, I don't think Brownsville, Texas. I don't think

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Speaker 7: any of those other cities should have to bear the

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Speaker 7: weight of the failure in Washington, d C. And so

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Speaker 7: it was wrong for the mayor of El Paso to

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Speaker 7: do it. No one should use human beings as political points.

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Speaker 7: And I cannot ignore the fact that Governor Abbot sent

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Speaker 7: migrants only two cities they're black mayors, and is minding

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Speaker 7: on cities.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so obviously kind of implying there's some racist not implied.

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Speaker 1: So this is fascinating because he laid it out. The

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Speaker 1: mayor of New York City is black. The mayor of Washington,

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Speaker 1: D C. Is black, The mayor of Chicago is black.

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Speaker 1: The mayor of Los Angeles is black. The mayor, he

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Speaker 1: said of Houston, I'm not sure if that's right, but

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Speaker 1: that's what he just said is black. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the mayor of Dallas is black. The biggest cities in

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Speaker 1: the country right now, across the board, all have black mayors.

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Speaker 1: So if you're just if you're doing anything to show

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Speaker 1: policy or you know, the failure, it's oh, you could say,

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Speaker 1: all you guys are only criticizing the crime rise in

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Speaker 1: major cities in America because, you know, because the mayors

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Speaker 1: are black. The mayors of all the biggest cities in

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Speaker 1: the country, this has been pointed out to Eric Adams

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Speaker 1: are black. So there's no you know, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to send people from the border to big cities, there's

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Speaker 1: there's not this notion that there was a choice he's

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Speaker 1: made here to specifically target cities at black mayors. All

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Speaker 1: the biggest cities in the country have black mayors.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I hadn't really thought about it because

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Speaker 2: my world is not obsessed by race, so I hadn't

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Speaker 2: even set back and thought about it. But now that

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Speaker 2: he's brought it up, it is act while he's saying

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Speaker 2: that this is racist by Greg Abbott, and and I

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Speaker 2: don't even think it's an implication. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: direct allegation of racism. Let's be honest with what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: What the easy response, if media actually did their job,

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Speaker 2: would be, what big cities with white mayors is Greg

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Speaker 2: Abbott intentionally not sending migrants to And I can't even think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're here in Nashville. There's a white mayor here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he's a huge Democrat, but as.

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Speaker 1: Not just the biggest city.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at really big cities. But if you think

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Speaker 2: of the ten or twelve biggest cities in America, you know,

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Speaker 2: you just start to run through them. They all have

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Speaker 2: black mayors. So you can look up buck if you

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Speaker 2: pull up like the ten or twelve and I mean

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Speaker 2: metro sized cities, right, not just like Jacksonville, Florida is

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Speaker 2: like a big population because the city never ends. We

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Speaker 2: love our listeners in Jacksonville, but you guys know what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. You could still be in Jacksonville and

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Speaker 2: you're driving for like an hour. It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, the only big city mayor that

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Speaker 2: I can think of that is not black is Boston.

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Speaker 2: Boston has an Asian woman. I'm looking at the ten

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Speaker 2: biggest cities in the country, the mayor of New York

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Speaker 2: is black. The Mary of Houston is black.

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Speaker 1: The mayor of we were talking, mayor of Dallas is black,

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Speaker 1: the mayor of DC is black, Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Blaicago is black, the La black, San Francisco black.

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Speaker 1: And and so what's interesting is that Eric, this was

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Speaker 1: pointed out to Eric Adams, like, hey man, it's really

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Speaker 1: not it's really not fair to cast this aspersion on

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Speaker 1: the on the governor of Texas because like what he's

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Speaker 1: just he's moving migrants to major cities, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: are the greatest concentrations of illegal migrants anywhere in the

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Speaker 1: country anyway. That's where they generally are the most congreg

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Speaker 1: they congregate the most. So this was pointed out to

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams.

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Speaker 2: He was corrected. Really okay, so somebody did braise this

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Speaker 2: up and say here he is.

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Speaker 1: Responding to this play clip for I'm making clear of

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Speaker 1: the fact, not based on my opinion, he sent them

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Speaker 1: to New York City, Washington, d C, Chicago, Denver.

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Speaker 5: But also in Philadelphia, which has a white mayor.

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Speaker 7: I have not received any reports from Philadelphia. I believe

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Speaker 7: that he sent them to black cities. I mean mayors,

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Speaker 7: what black mayors are and I don't know if it's

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Speaker 7: if it's to undermine of these large cities that are

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Speaker 7: run by black mans because of his political agenda. I

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Speaker 7: don't know if he's doing it before the race.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving the facts of where he has.

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Speaker 5: Sent them to.

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Speaker 1: Wed took one question to blow Philadelphia as well. Does

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Speaker 1: that change your view?

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Speaker 4: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: No, So here it doesn't matter that he's wrong, and

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Speaker 1: he's just you know, he hasn't thought this thing and

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Speaker 1: that thought this thing through. It only takes one question

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Speaker 1: from or the press. Yeah, they've sent them a Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: for that press member by the way, to actually push back.

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Speaker 1: But also, as we know, you know, Florida sent migrants

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Speaker 1: up to Martha Martha's vineyard. I mean, there's there's been

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Speaker 1: this effort has been to show which is maybe the

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Speaker 1: whitest place in America. It's yeah, it's a very high,

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Speaker 1: very high on the high on the list. So it's

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Speaker 1: fascinating as well because on the one this notion that

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Speaker 1: there's some targeting of these cities out of a race,

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Speaker 1: there's just no basis for this. I mean, the reality

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Speaker 1: is that we're at a point in America where right now,

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Speaker 1: basically every large city in the country, with a handful

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Speaker 1: of exceptions, has a black mayor and and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: but this is you would think also to talk about

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Speaker 1: how we look at the amount of you know, the

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Speaker 1: progress the country has had, and how you know, we're

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Speaker 1: the left would be celebrating this more. You don't hear

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard that. They only bring this up in

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Speaker 1: the context of there's racism against these cities with with

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Speaker 1: with Governor Abbott. But beyond that, now, this is the

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Speaker 1: other part of it that I think is so interesting.

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Speaker 1: What's a big deal with sending migrants to these cities?

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Speaker 1: They have told us. The Democrat line is these migrants

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Speaker 1: are either fleeing violence and oppression in their home, so

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Speaker 1: we should just welcome them with open arms, and or

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Speaker 1: they're just going to contribute to the economy. Do the

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Speaker 1: jobs Americans won't do. Remember that line we all used

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Speaker 1: to hear all the time, the jobs Americans won't do.

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Speaker 1: Net contributors to GDP, you know, they're they're helping with

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Speaker 1: you know, the decline in birth rates in large American

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Speaker 1: cities right now, where you know, we don't not at

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Speaker 1: replacement level, and so we need to bring in more migrants. Instead,

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Speaker 1: you have Democrat mayors who are all saying, well, we can't,

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Speaker 1: we can't afford this, Clay, Why can't they afford the

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Speaker 1: migrants who are making us all richer and better off.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Next week this is going to be impossible to ignore.

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Speaker 2: And let me just give credit, Buck, because this is

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Speaker 2: like a new world. That reporter who called out Eric

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Speaker 2: Adams CNN CNN's Abby Phillip. So, I don't know what's

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Speaker 2: going on in CNN. I don't know what the staff

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Speaker 2: meetings are looking like all of a sudden, But last

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Speaker 2: week Randy Winingarten gets called out on air, you had Fauci,

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Speaker 2: Sorry this, Vivik Murphy get called out live on CNN

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Speaker 2: about the masking of children by Aaron Burnett. And now

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Speaker 2: in real time, good question that immediately destroys Eric Adams's

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Speaker 2: entire precept, which is Greg Abbott's racist he's sending these migrants.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, Buck, even CNN now is covering

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Speaker 2: the disaster at the border on the eleventh, which is Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Right on Thursday, Title forty two ends, and we are

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Speaker 2: going to see an illegal immigrant controversy the likes of

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Speaker 2: which has never existed in the United States in any

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Speaker 2: of our lives. The number of illegal immigrants that are

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Speaker 2: going to come flooding across the southern border, in Texas, Arizona, everywhere,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be so overwhelming that even CNN and

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Speaker 2: MSNBC are going to have to talk about it. And

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Speaker 2: all these people out there who get to blithely endorse

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Speaker 2: the idea of illegal immigration and open borders without any

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Speaker 2: consequences associated with it, are suddenly going to have that

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Speaker 2: bill come due. You know.

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Speaker 1: Part of the problem here, Clay is when you look

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Speaker 1: at city and state budgets right now and the strain

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Speaker 1: that a lot of the Democrat states and cities are under,

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Speaker 1: places like New York City, California, massive massive budget deficits.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons that they're under this strain is

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Speaker 1: that they have large welfare states, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of poor who have congregated in places like California and

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Speaker 1: New York, a lot of people getting public services. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're in a time when the public services budget is

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Speaker 1: already so strained that you're going to have to see

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Speaker 1: cuts for Americans to bring in millions of people who

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Speaker 1: are not legally supposed to be here in the first place,

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Speaker 1: and start giving them access to public services as well.

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Speaker 1: People start to notice and by public services, I mean

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Speaker 1: stuff paid for by the taxpayer. You were all paying

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Speaker 1: for this, and what is the benefit. Well, if you're

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Speaker 1: told that, you if you have any question about it,

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Speaker 1: you're a bad person. Eric Adams could say you got

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Speaker 1: to stop sending migrants or we're going to go bankrupt.

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Speaker 1: But you are not allowed to say anything about it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Cyber hackers have their own version of a moral compass.

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Speaker 1: It points only toward one thing, and that's making a

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Speaker 1: fast buck online illegally before getting caught. So when we

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Speaker 1: hear about them getting the social Security numbers of kids,

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Speaker 1: pairing them with the name of a deceased person and

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Speaker 1: creating a new identity, that's nothing for cyber hackers. They

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Speaker 1: do this kind of stuff all the time. They just

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Speaker 1: hope they can get away with it. It's not the

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Speaker 1: only way that they scam people. If they get a

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Speaker 1: hold of your online identity, they will wreak havoc on

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Speaker 1: your accounts until you get wind of it. So how

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Speaker 1: do you protect yourself? With a company called LifeLock, that's

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Speaker 1: how their online identity theft protection is second to none.

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome back to the Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck Show. Everybody. We are very pleased to bring

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Speaker 1: you our friend Callie mcinenni right now. She's a former

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Speaker 1: White House Press secretary, co host of Outnumbered on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: She has a new book out serenity in the storm,

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Speaker 1: living through chaos by leaning on christ and Kaylee. We're

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Speaker 1: so happy to have you. Clay and I are big fans,

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Speaker 1: and we know that your dad listens to the show,

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Speaker 1: so you have brilliant, refined taste family members in the

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Speaker 1: realm of radio, which is very exciting for us.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, my dad will text me every day around

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Speaker 6: this time. I'll get a Clay and Bucker saying that

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Speaker 6: what great points like fantastic, they're the best.

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Speaker 1: Kelly went to Harvard Law School. Are we surprised that

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Speaker 1: our dad is a brilliant man who appreciates fine radio commentary. Clay,

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I think he's also a big Mississippi State fan, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean he was an athlete in Misissippi State. So

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Speaker 2: so congrats to the Bulldogs on a national title that

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Speaker 2: they got in baseball a couple of years ago, which

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Speaker 2: is pretty phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: So, Kelly, we have an opportunity here to have you

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Speaker 1: tell us some things that are encouraging and inspiring. And

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Speaker 1: the news today hasn't been in a particularly inspiring day,

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Speaker 1: We've had to dive into some difficult subject matter. What

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Speaker 1: tell us about the book here? Surrounding in the storm,

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Speaker 1: living through chaos by leaning on Christ.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, let's let's be real. The news As to

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Speaker 6: your point, you know, it's been uninspiring today, and it's

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Speaker 6: uninspiring pretty much every day over the last two years. So,

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Speaker 6: you know, I just think that we're at this place

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Speaker 6: where you know, it's easy to say, you know, President

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Speaker 6: Biden this, or you know, Democrats that I'm I'm with everyone.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think it's a disaster of a presidency.

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Speaker 6: And in the book, you know, I explore Afghanistan the

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Speaker 6: failures there, which I know, you know, well, fuck Ukraine.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it would have happened on President Trump's watch.

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Speaker 6: But you know, at the same time, despite as dim

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Speaker 6: as it looks on the current event horizons, social media,

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Speaker 6: the violence at our schools, I mean, the list is long.

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Speaker 6: I do think the answer is above the political fray,

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Speaker 6: when we have got in our hearts, I think it is.

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Speaker 6: It's a it's a solution to one in three young

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Speaker 6: girls wanting to commit suicide according to CDC data, to

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Speaker 6: the violence we're saying, to the really callous, senseless crime

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Speaker 6: we see on the streets where it's just incomprehensible that

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Speaker 6: someone could be so brazen, so cool. I think we've

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Speaker 6: lost touch with our foundation. You know, what is the

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Speaker 6: foundation of this country. God was part of the fabric

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Speaker 6: of this country, So to his patriotism, so to us tradition,

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Speaker 6: all three of those things under attack daily, and until

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Speaker 6: we returned to those three basic concepts, it's looking pretty

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Speaker 6: grim in the country.

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Speaker 2: Kaylee, How do you think the presidential primary race is

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Speaker 2: going to play out in twenty twenty three? I know

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Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis is not officially in yet, but you spend

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Speaker 2: and live, I believe, down in Florida, so you spend

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Speaker 2: a lot of time in that state. Obviously, Trump is

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Speaker 2: there not very far away either. Is this going to

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Speaker 2: end up a knockdown, dragout affair or do you think

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Speaker 2: Trump has created such a big gap between himself and

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Speaker 2: everybody else that it's almost a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, yes, President Trump's ahead in the

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Speaker 6: polls by quite a lot right now. I think they

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Speaker 6: will tighten once Governor DeSantis declares his candidacy. I do think,

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Speaker 6: and I know President Trump has said, you know, he's

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Speaker 6: not interested in the and the debate. Potentially, it's my

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Speaker 6: guess that. I think he'll come around to debating. I've

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Speaker 6: never seen him shy from a fight before, so I

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Speaker 6: think everything is going to come down to that debate stage.

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Speaker 6: We know the first debate is in August. It's a

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Speaker 6: Fox debate, and I think you're going to see a

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Speaker 6: real argument play out. And you know the polls, they're

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Speaker 6: national polls. I would note this is a state by

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Speaker 6: state race. So you've got to win in Iowa, and

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Speaker 6: you got to win in New Hampshire, you've got to

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Speaker 6: win in South Carolina. And big events tend to change

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Speaker 6: the trajectory of the polls. So the Trump indictment was huge.

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Speaker 6: It rallied a lot of supporters behind him. They saw

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Speaker 6: the injustice we all did. The declaration of candidacy by DeSantis,

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Speaker 6: I think will be another big moment, and then the

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Speaker 6: debates will be a big moment. But I don't think

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Speaker 6: this is going to be an easy pass to the

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Speaker 6: nomination for anyone. I think voters are really going to

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Speaker 6: assess who they think can prevail in a general election,

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Speaker 6: among other important policy issues.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Kay Mcanenny, her book, which you should all

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Speaker 1: get a copy of as soon as you can, is

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Speaker 1: serendering in the storm, living through chaos by leaning on

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Speaker 1: christ Cayley. How does Trump win? One thing we've been

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Speaker 1: wondering about here, how can he wins the suburban mom vote.

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Speaker 1: That would be one of the ways he could clearly

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Speaker 1: get the numbers needed to win in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've talked to the guy for countless hours

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Speaker 1: about strategy and messaging. How can he do it? Can

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Speaker 1: he do it?

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Speaker 6: I love that you asked that question. I think it

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Speaker 6: is really the question. The truth is, there are not

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Speaker 6: a lot of movable voters when it comes to Trump.

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Speaker 6: He's had his national introduction. People have their minds made up.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't mean that their minds can't change. They can. Other

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Speaker 6: candidates haven't had that national introduction. So I think that

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Speaker 6: the voter's a little more movable. But here's where President

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Speaker 6: Trump is. SE's the nominee. I think he does have

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Speaker 6: room to move suburban women like, Yes, the economy important.

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Speaker 6: I think that'll be big. But I can tell you

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Speaker 6: being a suburban mom myself, I exist among these kind

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Speaker 6: never Trump suburban moms that does exist. That is a cohort.

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Speaker 6: I do think the issue of school security is a

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Speaker 6: place where perhaps you'd see some movement prosecuting the case

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Speaker 6: against Joe Biden. You know, let's say we banned every

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Speaker 6: gun in America tomorrow. Not gonna happen, but let's just

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Speaker 6: speak in theory, right, we would still have guns within

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Speaker 6: the circulation for decades and decades. So it's an improbable

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Speaker 6: solution Democrats put forward. It wouldn't work. But why are

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Speaker 6: you against Joe Biden hardening our schools? You know, I

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Speaker 6: walk by Tiffany's and they are armed guards guarding the diamonds. Well,

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Speaker 6: our children are diamonds. Why aren't there armed guards at schools.

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Speaker 6: I think you can move suburban moms that way. I

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Speaker 6: know because I'm in these parent meetings where I talk

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Speaker 6: to them. And then on the issue of abortion for

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Speaker 6: young women, I think talking about vulnerable women because women

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Speaker 6: are victims in the abortion industry, supporting women, supporting women

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Speaker 6: during pregnancy really important to get that compassionate language on

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Speaker 6: that issue specifically. So I think they're movable, but it

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Speaker 6: means being remarkably disciplined on issues that matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to build on that, because we talk about this

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Speaker 2: on the show, and I know you've got young kids

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Speaker 2: and you are surrounded I imagine by a lot of

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Speaker 2: suburban moms. Kaylee, I'm around a lot of suburban moms.

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Speaker 2: We've got three boys, My wife has a lot of friends.

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Speaker 2: We go out and they just say, I've made up

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Speaker 2: my mind on Trump. I'm not changing my mind. They

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Speaker 2: agree on a lot of Republican policies, but they just

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Speaker 2: decided that Trump himself. They don't like, how do you

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Speaker 2: fix that? Because that, to me is the essence of

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Speaker 2: the question that Trump has to answer, and you just

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Speaker 2: kind of tinted at it with abortion politic policies and

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Speaker 2: certainly that do you think Trump understands that that there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of women who otherwise might agree with

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Speaker 2: him on issues, but based on personality, have moved away

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Speaker 2: from him, And who would be telling him that right

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Speaker 2: now as he moves through his campaign?

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Speaker 6: In your mind, I hope he does understand that. Look,

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Speaker 6: you know, Kelly Anne is a really great voice on

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Speaker 6: these issues. In you know, Susie Wilds. I think his

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Speaker 6: campaign manager is a really sharp lady, so he will

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Speaker 6: have positive voices in his ear. But it's going to

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Speaker 6: how can you move those women? Because I know several

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Speaker 6: women to your point, Clay, who are a Republican in

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Speaker 6: their leadings, but have expressed you know, I would, I

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Speaker 6: just can't vote for him. I'm sorry, you know, I

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Speaker 6: don't like some of the things that he says. This

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Speaker 6: is where those presidential debates, and I hope they happen

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Speaker 6: because Joe Biden will try to skirt them. If Trump

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Speaker 6: can really move this from being a referendum on him,

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Speaker 6: because those women who say they won't vote on him,

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Speaker 6: it's a referendum on him. If you can crystallize a

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Speaker 6: choice to those women, your choice is the economy falling,

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Speaker 6: regional banks shuddering, being unsafe on the world stage, China

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Speaker 6: domination as they rewrite the world order, not having guards

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Speaker 6: for your kids at schools because they're interested in political

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Speaker 6: talking points about guns. You know, if he can crystallize

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Speaker 6: that choice, maybe you moved just enough of those as

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Speaker 6: you build in roads into the black community and the

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Speaker 6: Latino community, which Trump Trump built there, We've added voters

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Speaker 6: in the black and the Latino communities, so there's a

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Speaker 6: narrow way to maybe piece together enough. But it's a

1043
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Speaker 6: game of addition, and we can't afford subtractions. So that

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Speaker 6: means no name calling, being really disciplined because that's when

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Speaker 6: those subtractions start happening, and it's going to come down

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Speaker 6: to you, a few thousand voters in a few swing states.

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Speaker 2: Kaylee, your dad was an athlete, you married an athlete.

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Speaker 2: When you see that we are now having a situation

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Speaker 2: where men are identifying as women and winning women's championships,

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Speaker 2: did you ever think we would ever be here? And

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Speaker 2: isn't this an issue that crystallizes just how out of

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Speaker 2: touch left wing democrats in particular have taken over the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party such that I think RFK Junior is the

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Speaker 2: only Democrat that I've even heard come out and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is wrong.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I never thought we'd get here. It's so basic,

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Speaker 6: as such, common sense. Men physical advantages over women in sports.

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Speaker 6: You're deacimating women's sports. My sister was a track athlete,

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Speaker 6: d one. She couldn't compete against mentes is biologically not possible.

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Speaker 6: But the degree to what you've seen the left totally

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Speaker 6: marginalize this issue and in fact play into it, you know,

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Speaker 6: in the wake of the Covenant shooting, for instance, and

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Speaker 6: you guys have really been on where is the Manifesto?

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Speaker 6: And I appreciate it because I think you need that accousibility. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but in the wake of that, I watched Korean John

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Speaker 6: Pierre at the podium talking about transgender kids need to fight.

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Speaker 6: In the wake of six Christians being killed by a

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Speaker 6: transgender individual, that is highly irresponsible language likewise irresponsible that

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Speaker 6: not a single member of the Biden administration use the

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Speaker 6: word Christian in the wake of that shooting. We need

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Speaker 6: to call things what they are. What happened. The attack

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Speaker 6: on Tree of Life Synagogue was an attack on jewishmen

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Speaker 6: and women. The attack of Pols Nike Club an attack

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Speaker 6: And you have the Left playing into this transgender narrative

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