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Well, 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: we had tons of free agency news from around the NBA. 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: A last night headline by DeAndre Aiden working out a 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: buyout with the Portland Trailblazers. We're gonna bounce around the 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: league and hit all of the news from the last 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: couple of days We also had a bizarre report or 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: bizarre quote I should say, for Rich Paul about Lebron 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: James in his future with the Lakers. Now, I think 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: most of that is just noise and kind of plastic 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: Lebron manipulation. But for fun, we're going to talk through 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: my top four Lebron James potential trade destinations this summer. 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: You guys know the joke before we get started. Subscribe 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: to the Hoops and Night YouTube channels. You don't miss 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: any more of our videos. Follow me on Twitter at 48 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: underscore JCNLTS. You guys don't miss show announcements. Don't forget 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: about our podcast feed where you get your podcast under 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Hoops Tonight. It's also super helpful if you leave a 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: rating and review on that front. 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So Sham's reported 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: last night that Deandreton is finalizing a buy out with 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: the Portland Trailblazers that would make him an unrestricted free agent, 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: and now it feels like an inevitability when you kind 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: of look at the landscape of the league, that he's 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: going to be a Los Angeles Laker. And this, of 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: course led to everyone pointing out the reality fairly that 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: Ayton is a dude that comes with a lot of downsides. 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Remember that conversation that me and Sam Bessini had right 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: at the beginning of our draft preview. We talked a 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: lot about the idea of competitiveness as a trait that 68 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: NBA teams are trying to hunt. We talked about how 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: it was an important part of playoff translatability. You get 70 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: into the playoffs and it's nasty, right like you get 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: on the It's like a fight or flight response. The 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: league is full of these competitive dudes, guys who will 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: punch you in the mouth figuratively obviously in a basketball sense. 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: And there are guys that have the competitive fire to 75 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: step to that type of confrontation, and then there are 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: guys that will kind of will away from it. And 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: you know, I'd argue it's one of the most important 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: traits for any basketball player to have. It's not something 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: that can be developed. It's intrinsic into who you are 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: as a human being, right, And I want to be 81 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: clear up front, de Andrea Ayton is not that type 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: of competitor, and he's basically openly admitted this. He said 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: in his first press conference in the NBA when he 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: was asked what his goal was in the NBA, he said, 85 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: to get to his second contract. He's skipped work over 86 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: icy road conditions. He shows general apathy when he's on 87 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: the court much of the time. DeAndre Ayton is not 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: going to join a team and attack every day with 89 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: a ton of intensity and a ton of you know, 90 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: give a shit. That's not who he is. But this 91 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: is also the same reason why Ayton makes so much 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: sense for the Lakers. In order for a team to 93 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: make sense for DeAndre Ayton, they basically have to be desperate, 94 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: and the Lakers are desperate. A dis engaged, unfocused Deandrayton 95 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: is still several orders of magnitude better than any center 96 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: the Lakers currently have in house. And when it comes 97 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: to the options out in the open market, whether it 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: be through free agency with you know, potential free agent 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: guys like Clint Capella or Brook Lopez, or having to 100 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: ship out assets for a guy like Nick Claxton. He 101 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: still represents a much better option than any of those guys. 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: There is also a natural basketball fit here that we'll 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: discuss in a minute, but I want to focus on 104 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: the desperation for both sides. The Lakers desperately need a 105 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: starting caliber center that is a good athlete and that 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: can score off of the attention drawn by Luka doncicin 107 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: pick and roll. Deandreton is a way, way, way better 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: option on that front than any free agent option the 109 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Lakers have available to them or anybody they have in house. Right, 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: and Ayton would now be in a situation where he's 111 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: on a mid level exception type of contract, probably a 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: one plus one the player option, where he's gonna want 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: to kick ass this year so that he can potentially 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: secure another long term deal in the NBA. Right, Luka 115 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Doncitz represents Aton's best chance to have that type of 116 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: season because of the advantages that he can set him 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: up with. So with that being the case, let's talk 118 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: about the basketball for a minute. The optimism surrounding a 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: potential Deandreton moved to the Lakers centers around his ability 120 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: to score in pick and roll. The last time Deandreton 121 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: played with real high level ball handling was in Phoenix, 122 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: and he was consistently one of the best pick and 123 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: roll scoring bigs in the league. In twenty twenty one, 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: pretty low volume, but he shot over seventy percent on 125 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: role man possessions fueld goals. In twenty twenty two, he 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: may he scored three hundred and sixteen points on the 127 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: role with which ranked fourth in the entire NBA, despite 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: him only playing in fifty eight games that season. He 129 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: shot sixty five percent in those situations. And then in 130 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, obviously with Kevin Durant mixed in there 131 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: in the late portion of the season, three hundred and 132 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: eighty seven points on the roll, which ranked third in 133 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: the NBA, and he shot sixty two percent. He is 134 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: great at scoring off of the attention drawn by ball handlers. 135 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: How he's just a really talented player. He brings a 136 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: legitimate vertical spacing threat. He had multiple season where he 137 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: had over one hundred dunks. He's good at making layups, 138 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: which is something that many big struggle with. He's got 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: a good floater and a good hook shot. In that 140 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, the one where Kevin Durant participated 141 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: with the team, the last season he played with high 142 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: level ball handling, he shot fifty five percent on floaters 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: and hooks on super high volume. He made one hundred 144 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: and nineteen of them in that season. Now, his percentages 145 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: in his efficiency have dropped in the years since then, 146 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: but again, role men in pick and roll are very 147 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: dependent on the ball handler setting them up with those 148 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: types of advantages in the middle of the floor and 149 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: at the rip. There's no doubt that Luca is going 150 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: to be able to make good use of Deandretan there 151 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: on the defensive end of the floor. Ayton has been 152 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: a very frustrating player in his career right. There's been 153 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: some super high highs. He had some moments in the 154 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one finals where you were like, man, he's 155 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: battling Yannis on an island. Similar moments against Nikole Jokic 156 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty three second round series. But none 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: of it is amounted to the potential that he demonstrated 158 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: coming into the draft. Pick and roll defense, same sort 159 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: of thing you'll have moments where he's moving around and 160 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: he's active with his hands and he's successful, and then 161 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: moments where he's not. It just hasn't come to fruition 162 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: in terms of his potential. All that amounts to this, 163 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: would I want to trade legitimate assets for Deandrayton if 164 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: I was any team? No? Would I want him occupying 165 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: a real salary slot, like a big salary slot that 166 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: affects my ability to surround him with additional talent? No, 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. But would I want 168 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: Deandreyton on a mid level exception in a year where 169 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: he's basically in a contract year where he's highly motivated 170 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: to play as at least as well as he can 171 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: to try to secure that type of long term deal. 172 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: If I was also a team that is literally the 173 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: most desperate team in the league with respect to the 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: center position, you bet your ass I'd want him there, 175 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: and hopefully a team led by Luka Doncic and Lebron 176 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: James keep him on the straight and narrow and help 177 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: both sides reach their ultimate goals. DeAndre in a big payday, 178 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Lebron and Luca chance to win the title. To be clear, 179 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: I also wouldn't put it past DeAndre Ayton to like 180 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: completely avoid the competitive spirit of Lebron and Luca by 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: choosing a different team, because those guys would be all 182 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: over him from day one about his commitment. But if 183 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: he ends up in Los Angeles, it's just better than 184 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: the available options, even though it's a flawed option, and 185 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: if nothing else, it would be entertaining for Lakers fans. 186 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: If it goes down, be ready to be incredibly frustrated 187 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: with DeAndre Aytons sometimes, but just remember it could have 188 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: been Jackson hates. It could have been substantially worse. Right now, 189 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: before we move on to some other free agency topics, 190 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: we actually have another bit of Lakers news from yesterday 191 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: involving Lebron James. We had a first of all, he 192 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: picks up his player option just over fifty million. That 193 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: was an interesting move there in the sense that he 194 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: could have opted out and tried to sign another one 195 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: plus one to protect him in case he wanted to 196 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: play an additional season. We had a quote from Rich 197 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: Paul though, surrounding the picking up of the option that 198 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: was really fascinating. I'm going to read the quote first 199 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: and then we'll go from there. Lebron wants to compete 200 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: for a championship. He knows the Lakers are building for 201 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: the future. He understands that, but he values a realistic 202 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: chance of winning it all. We are very appreciative of 203 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: the partnership that we've had for eight years with Genie 204 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: and Rob considering the consider the Lakers as a critical 205 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: part of his career. We understand the difficulty in winning 206 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: now while preparing for the future. We do want to 207 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: evaluate what's best for Lebron at this stage in his 208 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: life and career. He wants to make every season he 209 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: has left count and the Lakers understand that and are 210 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: supportive and want what's best for him. So what the 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: hell does all that mean? First of all, Lebron is 212 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: famous in his career for applying pressure on organizations, applying 213 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: pressure on front offices to try to force them to 214 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: be aggressive in the windows of time that he's with 215 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: that particular franchise. I saw many folks yesterday interpreting that 216 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: quote to basically be a soft trade request. I wouldn't 217 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: go that far. This could just as easily be Lebron 218 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: knowing full well that he has no trade clause and 219 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: that he has no intention of leaving Los Angeles for 220 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: his twenty third season, and that he's just applying some 221 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: token pressure to the team to try to get them 222 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: to trade that last first round pick, potentially spend additional 223 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: money to make certain things happen and to maximize this window. 224 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: I think it's far more likely than that that Lebron 225 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: is a Laker next year. I want to be very 226 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: clear about that before we move forward. But just for 227 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: fun today, let's have a serious talk about potential Lebron 228 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: James trade destinations. What would the surrounding circumstances need to 229 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: be for a team to make sense for Lebron. I 230 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: think it would need to be a pretty unique set 231 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: of circumstances for a forty one year old, right They 232 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: need to have some urgency, like a shorter window to compete, 233 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: like we've got this year or two to try to 234 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: jump on. They need to have large expendable salaries to 235 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: match Lebron's salary. If you're gonna send out fifty million, 236 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: it's got to be fifty million in guys that you 237 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: can afford to lose. They need to be obviously not 238 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 2: good enough to win the title right now, meaning they 239 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: need to have a little bit of that desperation, right, 240 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: So several recent examples of them just not being able 241 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: to get over the hump with no obvious thing internally 242 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: that can fix that problem, and a Lebron trade needs 243 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: to feel like suddenly positions that team right with the 244 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: top contenders in the league. You're gonna send out fifty 245 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: million dollars in salary and potentially maybe a tiny bit 246 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: of draft compensation for an asset that becomes worthless when 247 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: he retires. Then you need to feel really good about 248 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: your chances to win the trophy in that short window. 249 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: I looked over the NBA landscape and I came up 250 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: with four teams that makes sense, some sense, I should say, 251 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Cavaliers, the New York Knicks, the Denver Nuggets 252 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: in the Dallas Mavericks. Start with the Calves. The case 253 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: for a move with the Calves would be self awareness. 254 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: You just got your butts kicked by the Knicks your 255 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: first trip to the playoffs. Then you struggled with an 256 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 2: Orlando team just to lose to Boston. Then you have 257 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: the greatest season of the post Lebron era, and you 258 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 2: get your butt kicked by the Pacers in a series 259 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: where you looked outclassed, and a lot of the same 260 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: issues from previous years popped up. Scarland's health became an issue, 261 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: his ability to perform in the playoffs came to the 262 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: surface again. Jared Allen suddenly becoming way less effective in 263 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: the postseason, role players suddenly not making shots they made 264 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: in the regular season. The Calves just aren't a championship 265 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: team yet, and Donovan Mitchell is an athletic guard who 266 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: turns twenty nine before the start of next season. There's 267 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of urgency there. Lebron also fits a 268 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: very specific position of need. The Calves did not have 269 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: a reliable secondary shot creator after Donovan Mitchell because Darius 270 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Garland struggled throughout the series and was unhealthy and Ty 271 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: Jerome completely decomposed, like in kind of dramatic fashion, completely decomposed. 272 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: So Lebron is a reliable secondary shot creator. He's not 273 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: a guy that I want to be leaning on at 274 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: age forty one to be running my offense in super 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: large doses. But that's a Calves team that degraded down 276 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: to Donovan Mitchell heliocentric ball over the course of that series. 277 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: James could help you alleviate that specific problem. He's a big, 278 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: strong forward that compliments Evan Mobley on the defensive end 279 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: of the floor, and he's a proven postseason performer. They 280 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: could pull off the deal by basically shipping out the 281 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: guys who have been their weak points in previous seasons, 282 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Guys like Darius Garland, guys like Jared Allen. Again, I 283 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: know it's difficult to wrap your brain around those guys 284 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: who have been such monsters over the years. Darris Garland 285 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: such an incredible player this season. Jared Allen really vaulted 286 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: himself into that second tier of centers with the way 287 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: that he played this season. There's a lot that there's 288 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: a lot that goes into, you know, letting guys like 289 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: that go, But it's about self awareness and looking at 290 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: the situation and being like, we've done this three times now. 291 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: We just did it with the best version of this 292 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: team that we've had in the post Lebron era, and 293 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: the same guys got their butt kicked and we went 294 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: out in the same disappointing fashion. And finally, the Eastern 295 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: Conference is wide open. If Lebron went to a Cleveland, 296 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: that team immediately feels like the runaway favorite to win 297 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference, if they could get through the Knicks, 298 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: if they could get through the Orlando Magic, or whatever 299 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawks end up pulling off this summer, that 300 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: they could be right there in the finals because of 301 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: the open Eastern Conference, because of the Achilles tear for 302 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard, the Achilles tear for Jason Tatum in the 303 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Achilles tear for Tyree Salliburn. So Cleveland Cavaliers are the 304 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: first team to the New York Knicks. Now, I'm gonna 305 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: go briefer on this one because the reporting says that 306 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: they're waiting around for Giannis, so I view this as 307 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: particularly unlikely, but it's the same set of circumstances, right. 308 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: Obviously not good enough to win the title after a 309 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: very disappointing year last year, A clear trade swap in 310 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: terms of Karl Anthony Towns for salary, who could come 311 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: in and fit a specific need for the Lakers and 312 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: need a starting center. Lebron fits a specific need, which 313 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: is that reliable shot creation off of Jalen Brunson, a 314 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: very similar kind of dynamic to what he would do 315 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, and substantially better front court defensive player than 316 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns, especially in the postseason context, but again 317 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: most likely going to wait for a better long term option, 318 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 2: So I viewed that one as as relatively unlikely. The 319 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets, That's what I've been thinking about a lot 320 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: over the last couple of days. It's a really interesting fit. 321 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: They are also in this like super urgent short term 322 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: window trying to capitalize on Nikole Jokic's prime. They're light 323 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: on assets, so they can't ship out much. They have 324 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: an aging group of role players. There's a real urgency, 325 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: but even they're already staring down the barrel of potentially 326 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: needing to trade nicolea Jokitchen a couple of years if 327 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: things don't turn around. They have a big salary in 328 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior that they're looking to get rid of, 329 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: and he also fits a position of need for the Lakers. 330 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: In terms of Michael Porter Junior, the Lakers don't have 331 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: a starting caliber three, but they have another starting caliber 332 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: four and Ruby Hachimura that could step into the four spot. 333 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior is a guy who could step in there. 334 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon's shooting has unlocked the for them to space 335 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: the floor in a Lebron James build, and I think 336 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: Lebron would be a great fit with his ability to 337 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: play in transition and off the ball as a cutter 338 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: and as a roller. I think they immediately become the 339 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: most physically imposing team in the league with him next 340 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: to Aaron Gordon and Nikola Jokic. That presents a very 341 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: specific matchup problem for Oklahoma City, where you can talk 342 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: yourself into Denver just mauling those guys underneath the basket. 343 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: The only real hang up is just the idea of 344 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: Lebron leaving Los Angeles at age forty one to go 345 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: to a smaller market like Denver. But I that's an 346 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: interesting one, a combination of like Denver's desperation with like 347 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: kind of the natural basketball fit, and Lebron going into 348 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: a situation where he could play for a legitimate championship threat. Lastly, 349 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks similarly, due to that Anthony Davis contract 350 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: and the Kyrie Irving contract that he just signed, they're 351 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: in a weird situation where even though they have Cooper 352 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: Flag and House, they're facing some real urgency to compete 353 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: right now. They're super light on balling and Lincoln shot creation, 354 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: which is something that Lebron can step right in and do, 355 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: and they can actually benefit I think from consolidating some 356 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: of these salaries they have down the payroll, Guys like 357 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: Daniel Gafford, who it's hard to see how he's going 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: to get minutes. Guys like PJ. Washington, it's hard to 359 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: see how he's going to get minutes. You know. Klay Thompson, 360 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: I think is a player that has some utility for 361 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: this team, but then with Max Christie in house, you 362 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: could see him potentially taking the starting spot. Now you're 363 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: paying a considerable a considerable amount of money for a 364 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: bench player in that regard, I think they could benefit 365 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 2: from consolidating a little bit. The hilarious thing is I 366 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: was reading this morning from Mark Stein in his reporting 367 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: that they are going to sign D'Angelo Russell today in 368 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: all likelihood for two years at about twelve million dollars. 369 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: So they'd have Delo and Max Christy and Lebron James 370 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: and Anthony Davis and basically be the Lakers from a 371 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: few years ago, just with better depth and the prospect 372 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: of Kyrie Irving returning at some point in the year 373 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: depending on how his ACL repair and rehab goes. Again, 374 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: I think it's more likely than not that Lebron just 375 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: stays in LA as a Laker this year. But these 376 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: are the only Lebron destinations I see that make any sense. 377 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: All Right, We're gonna start going rapid fire through a 378 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: bunch of small pieces of news from around the NBA 379 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: over the week. First one, the Chicago Bulls traded Lonzo 380 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: Ball to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Isaac Accorro. I have 381 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: no earthly idea what the Bulls are trying to accomplish 382 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: at all, but I do love the theoretical Lonzo fit 383 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: with the Calves. The Calves are preparing to lose Hi 384 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: Jerome and free agency. Probably not much in the way 385 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: of hard feelings there, considering how bad he was in 386 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: the Pacers series. But Lonzo is theoretically a fantastic fit 387 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: with the Calves. I say theoretically because he's had health 388 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: issues over the course of the years, right, But he's 389 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: a defensive playmaker that is coming off of a career 390 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: best season and steel rate. He averaged three stocks per 391 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: thirty six minutes last year. And this is a Calves 392 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: team that thrives in transition, and that added this whole 393 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: turnover to transition element under Kenny Atkinson last year. I 394 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: think that's a fantastic fit. He's an excellent hit ahead passer. 395 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: That's what he was known for during the healthier phase 396 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: of his career when he was on ball more he's 397 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: an excellent hit ahead passer, an excellent connective playmaker. I 398 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: think that makes him kind of a unique, higher floor, 399 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: lower ceiling option as that bench guard, and I think 400 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: he has more utility playing alongside the starters when they 401 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: need to. He had a rough shooting season last year, 402 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: but he was thirty nine percent from three on seven 403 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: attempts per game in the previous three seasons, so I 404 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: do think he'll shoot better. And so you can see 405 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: as like a almost like a three and D guard 406 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: option that they can go to in a universe where 407 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: he's playing alongside the starters. But then he also brings 408 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: you just kind of like a higher floor, lower ceiling 409 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: option than ty Jerome in the sense that he's not 410 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: going to do the surgical pick and roll scoring that 411 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: ty Jerome can do, and you know, hit five or 412 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: six floaters in an early fourth quarter stretch that just 413 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: drives a dagger into the heart of the opponent not 414 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: going to do that, but he is going to bring 415 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: a higher floor, more defensive focus, more ball movement focused 416 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: approach to that backup guard spot, and again that hit 417 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: ahead passing. This is a Cavs team that really changed 418 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: into a transition monster last year, and Lonzo is just 419 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: such a natural fit there. I think it's a really 420 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: nice pivot from the Calves under the circumstances. 421 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane world 422 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: of sports, Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range 423 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: of programming that goes beyond the game. 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The first thing that stood 433 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: out to me was the fact that Danny Ainge actually 434 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: had to attach draft compensation and not the other way around. 435 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: Both of these guys are on very similar contracts expiring 436 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: after this season this coming season at just under twenty million. 437 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: That's what made it work in terms of a straight 438 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: across swap. And I think Colin Sexton is just a 439 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: better player than use of Nurkics. That's not to say 440 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: that Colin Sexon is a perfect player. He's got his 441 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: issues and he's kind of a clunky fit where he goes. 442 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: But I think Colin Sexton still brings some pretty high 443 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: level NBA traits to the table, and use of Nurkics 444 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: just doesn't. So I thought that that valuation was strange 445 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: to have that second round pick attached. Take a step further, 446 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't understand the basketball fit really. I would assume 447 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: for the Hornets he's going to be the Trey Man replacement. 448 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Trey Man had a back issue. His agent came out 449 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: and was like, Trey's good to go. I'm sure they're 450 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: just looking for a free agent deal elsewhere, but I 451 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: don't love the fit there on that kind of weird Hornets, 452 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: and then for Nurkics, like in Utah, it doesn't make 453 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: a ton of sense at all unless they're looking to 454 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: trade Walker Kessler. Like if I like, if Danny Ainge 455 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: was trying to trade Walker Kessler and he's trying to 456 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: fleece a team like the Lakers or something like that, 457 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: then it makes some sense you're bringing in use of 458 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: Nurkice to get you a guy that can play some 459 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: center minutes. But I mean, at this point, at like 460 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: now the DeAndre eight and buy out becomes super interesting 461 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: because if like, let's say that Danny Ainge, because all 462 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: the intel was like Danny Ainge is not looking to 463 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: trade Walker Kessler, like he's just not gonna do it. 464 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well if that's the case, and you 465 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: got Kyle Philipowski, like, what is the purpose for going 466 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: after a use of nurkics? Right, Well, let's just imagine 467 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: for a second that Danny Ainge is like, I'm eventually 468 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: gonna trade Walker Kessler to the Lakers, but I'm just 469 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: gonna string these dudes along as long as i can 470 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: and then jump in and get the best possible deal. Well, 471 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: now DeAndre Ayton's available potentially for a mid level exception 472 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: where they wouldn't have to include, uh, you know, potentially 473 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: adult and Connect or a first round pick, and it's like, 474 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: would you rather have Connect a first round pick you 475 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: can trade later and DeAndre Ayton or would you rather 476 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: have Walker Kessler? Like that's going to get in the 477 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: way of that sort of deal getting done. So I 478 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: don't really know what the Jazz are trying to accomplish here. 479 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: Either the Timberwolves did some business yesterday or over the weekend, 480 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: I should say Julius Randall resigns on a three year, 481 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar deal. I'm not a big Julius 482 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: Randall fan, and I thought it was rather embarrassing some 483 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: of the stuff that he did in the Oklahoma City series, 484 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: particularly when things weren't going his way. But one thing 485 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: I'll say in his defense, Oklahoma City embarrassed a lot 486 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: of guys in the postseason this year, And under any circumstances, 487 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: a player with the ceiling that Julius Randall has, getting 488 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 2: thirty three million per year in this NBA is a 489 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: massive discount under any circumstances for a player of his caliber. 490 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: The salary cap is going to be undergoing massive jumps 491 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: every year. With the new TV deal and that deal 492 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: at Julius deal is going to be very appealing as 493 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: a trade asset in a year or two, especially as 494 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: the cap continues to go up. And I mean like 495 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: in terms of the discount, Like look at James Harden, 496 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 2: another kind of middling, underachieving star who you know is 497 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: known for playoff flameouts, and he just got forty million 498 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: annual from from the Clippers. So to get Julius Randall 499 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: at thirty three million, I think is a very good 500 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: deal for Minnesota. They also resigned Nas Reed five years, 501 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five million, basically the same deal 502 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: that Jabari Smith Junior just got a little bit more, 503 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: but mostly symbolically. At that point, I would imagine I 504 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: do think nas is the better player, so to get 505 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: him for three million total more over five years feels 506 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: like a great deal from a value standpoint. The Wolves 507 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: are betting on internal improvement and continuity, which I think 508 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: is a completely reasonable direction for a team that has 509 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: made the Conference finals two years in a row and 510 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: is led by a star that has struggled on that 511 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: stage both times. Ant wasn't good against the MAVs, ANT 512 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 2: wasn't good against Oklahoma City. There's reason to believe that 513 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: an improved Anthony Edwards could lead this team to a championship. 514 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: As currently constructed. The Wolves are betting on him making 515 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: that lead. They may have to make some pivots, but 516 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: I think nas Reid at that number, that's a tradeable deal. 517 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: Julius Randall on that number, that's a tradeable deal. They 518 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: won't be as deep. They're gonna lose to kill Alexander Walker. 519 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: Mike Conley is gonna be a year older, but they're 520 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: maintaining the core of what makes the Wolves the Wolves 521 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: while maintaining some trade flexibility. Even that Go Bear deal. 522 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: I know he's older, but I mean that right around 523 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: thirty million is kind of just what a starting center, 524 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: a good starting center, goes for in the modern NBA. 525 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: It just kind of is what it is at this point. 526 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: Houston a lot of interesting stuff from them retaining some 527 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: of their lower level role players. They re upped with 528 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: Jabari Smith, Like we mentioned, five years, one hundred and 529 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: twenty two million, Dorian Finney Smith. They're trying to poach 530 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: him away from the Lakers. Mark Stein reported that they're 531 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: going to try to put together a four year offer 532 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: that it might be around that like sixty million, dollars range. 533 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: I really like the idea of Dorian Phinney Smith in 534 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: a Houston context where he's surrounded at by just a 535 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: ton of athleticism and physicality. That's a team that desperately 536 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: needs shooting. You bring in a Kevin Durant and a 537 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: Dorian Finney Smith, it just gives you so much more 538 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: lineup flexibility with you way to with the ability to 539 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: put different types of shooters in different spots on the floor. 540 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: Houston's going for it, man, and you know, I am 541 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: always going to I'm always going to to advocate for 542 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: teams that make these types of decisions, especially when you're 543 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 2: self aware. This was a Houston team that has an 544 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: Amend Thompson that is a super exciting young player that 545 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: I think has the potential to become an All NBA 546 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: level type of two way talent, but his offensive development 547 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: puts him in a situation where he's years away. He's 548 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: years away from being that type of player, and in 549 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: the short term, he's still a super useful role player 550 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: as this point of attack defender who is a vertical 551 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: spacing threat who can I think you're going to see 552 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: a lot more four on three like short Roll stuff 553 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: from him this year playing off of Kevin Durant, Like 554 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: you have a short term utility with the Men Thompson. 555 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: But you look at it and it was like Jalen 556 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: Green wasn't a star level ball handler in any sort 557 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: of like dependable sense. Neither was Fred Shanggoon, you know, 558 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: has his certain limitations. This was a Houston team that 559 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: looked in the mirror and went, we're not good enough, 560 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: but we have a really strong foundation in one specific 561 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: weakness in terms of a high level ball handling. I'll 562 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: give you two well, high level ball handling and off 563 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: ball shooting. They're making aggressive moves to try to address 564 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: those specific needs. They're shortening their window obviously, but they 565 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: still have tons of assets in terms of first round 566 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: draft compensation for a pivot. So you go after Dorian 567 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 2: Finney Smith, you get a Kevin Durant, You make an 568 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: attempt to try to win the title over the next 569 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: year or two. But then you still have Shangoon, you 570 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: still have a Men Thompson, you still have Reed Shepherd 571 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: and it can wit more and all these young athletes. 572 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: You still have a future that you can pivot to 573 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: while also having a short term window try to make 574 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: something happen. I think it makes a ton of sense. 575 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: And you know, Houston, I checked this morning on DraftKings. 576 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: They have the second best championship ods at this point 577 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: in the entire NBA. They're putting themselves in a really, 578 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: really strong position on that front. James Harden new deal 579 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: two years, eighty two million. Now do I think Clippers 580 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: are going to win the title next year? No, But 581 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: I did find this to be really fascinating just in 582 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: terms of a proof of concept of something I've believed 583 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: for a long time. Surrounding James Harden, I've talked a 584 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: lot about this concept. When we were talking with Sam 585 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: Vessini in that pre draft episode. If you guys remember 586 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: the idea of like read and react talent being super important. 587 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: Guys that can catch and shoot threes, drive closeouts, make 588 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: decisions when they're driving close outs basically play with an advantage, 589 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: And if you remember, there was another part of that conversation, 590 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: and one of the things I talked about was like 591 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: most of the good teams in the NBA have a 592 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: guy who specializes in generating advantages first temates and James 593 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: Harden still to this day, is one of the very 594 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: best guys in the league at generating those advantages. His 595 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: ability to play out a high pick and roll and 596 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: score from all three levels and playmate out of pick 597 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: and roll, generating tons of short role opportunities and catch 598 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: and shoot opportunities and close out attack opportunities. It makes 599 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: it so that all of your players on the roster 600 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: have advantages the majority of the time. I said before 601 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: the season last year, even with the Paul George loss, 602 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: I was like, this is an athletic team. It's got 603 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: a lot of perimeter defenders, and James Harden just gives 604 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: you such a high floor on the defense on the 605 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: offensive end of the floor that it just gives you 606 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: just a very strong foundation for offense during the NBA 607 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: regular season. And I think him getting a two year, 608 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: eighty two million dollar deal, even with his playoffs shortcomings, 609 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: even though he's not the same guy that he used 610 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: to be, is just a strong reminder that the ability 611 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: to create open shots and closeouts and advantages four year 612 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: role players is one of the most valuable things in 613 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: the NBA. And James is going to keep cashing out 614 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: until he can't do that. And another eighty million for 615 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: James Harden over the course of two years. Lastly, some 616 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks Bobby Portis signs a three year, forty four 617 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: million dollar deal. This is a really favorable number for 618 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: Milwaukee and opens up a lot more options for them 619 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: this summer. I've been kind of a Bobby Portis defender 620 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: for a while. There are a lot of Bucks fans 621 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: that are not a big fan of his. I understand 622 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: the shortcomings. I have seen some of the worst defensive 623 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: tape that I see around the NBA from a big 624 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: when I'm watching Bobby Portis. At times, he can be 625 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: frustratingly inconsistent on that end of the floor. But he 626 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: is a backup power forward center hybrid, and when it 627 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: comes the backups, there's always going to be that level 628 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: of inconsistency and you know, just more of a of 629 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: a like an up and down type of approach. Right, Like, guys, 630 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: if Bobby Portis was a good defender, he's a thirty 631 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 2: five million dollar player, like because he can shoot threes 632 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: at a high rate, because he can beat switches on 633 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: the block, because he's a pretty solid read and react player. 634 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: Bobby Is a his defensive shortcomings or would allow you 635 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: to get him at a number like three years and 636 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: forty four million. Now the Bucks needs some perimeter athleticism. 637 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: I'd be calling on guys like Bruce Brown and Karris 638 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: Lavert and doing whatever I could to try to bring 639 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: in some guys. I think Harris would be great for 640 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: them as a guy who can handle the ball and 641 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: can guard on the perimeter. Bruce, it's a little bit 642 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: more clunky with the spacing fit, but they just need 643 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: to bring in some guys that can really dribbleshoot, pass 644 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: and defend on the perimeter, but actually run the floor 645 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: and cover ground and transition. Bring just more of that 646 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: athletic pop on the perimeter. Bobby taking that discounted deal 647 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: just gives them a little bit more flexibility on that front. 648 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: All right, guys, That's all I have for today is 649 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: always a sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us and 650 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 2: supporting the show. We will be back. I'm not sure 651 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: if we're going to go tonight or tomorrow morning. I'm 652 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: on the road in Denver house hunting. I've mentioned this 653 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago, but my wife and I are 654 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: moving up here this summer, so kind of depending on 655 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: just how shocking the news is, will either go tonight 656 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: or will go tomorrow morning. I'll let you guys know 657 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: just an eye on my Twitter feed, but we will 658 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: have a video reacting to all of the Free Agency 659 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: news from today no later than tomorrow morning. Again, I 660 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: appreciate you guys for rocking with me and for supporting 661 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: the show, and I'll see you guys next time. What's 662 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: up guys? As always, I appreciate you for listening to 663 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: and supporting OOPS tonight. They would actually be really helpful 664 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: for us if you guys would take a second and 665 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: leave a rating and a review. As always, I appreciate 666 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: you guys supporting us, but if you could take a 667 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: minute to do that, I've really appreciated 668 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: The volume