WEBVTT - The Questlove Supreme Reunion Finale Part 1 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.000 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. All right, 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.239 so is everyone ready? Let's go, all right, people, let's work. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:12.520 That's going to be loud. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:15.920 No, yeah, that's loud. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:16.759 Listen. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:25.919 Suprema su su Suprema Roll Call, Suprema Shu Suprema roll Call, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:33.480 Suprema Suprema Roll Call, Suprema s Suprema. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.920 Rollmen this formIn this yeah with Bliss Bliss. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:38.880 Yeah, all the qre lists. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:57.120 Yeah, oh yeah, greatest hits. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.199 Waiting for this. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:01:05.800 Oh my god, world perfect that mama ooh man, all 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:06.360 the joys. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:18.840 Yes, sir, yes, sir. Don't forget this one. You fly 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:29.360 cogurable one. That's right, coble, I mean no place child. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.479 A listen. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:44.360 Not to forget the all time classic. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.080 It was a different time, It was a different Subreva 0:01:53.720 --> 0:02:00.559 Breema roll breama Suprema roll Call. My name is Fante. Yeah, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:05.040 I have achieved it. Yeah, last episode of quls Yeah, man, 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:05.960 I can't believe it. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:14.720 Roll Supremo, Suprema, Roll Call, Supremo, Supremo, Role Call. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:15.880 My name is Sugar. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.679 Yeah, the end is near. Yeah, not just this podcast, yeah, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.720 my whole career. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:30.960 Suprema Roll Call, Supremo shut Suprema. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:34.520 Roll call paid bill, Yeah, my bed is made. Yeah, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:35.799 thanks for having me. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:36.480 Yeah. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.280 On Black History Decade. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:48.400 Roma subpremo, roll call, Supremo, supremo roll call. It's like him, yeah, 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.480 and it's just us. Yeah, going to write something. Yeah, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:53.480 I'm just gonna. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:03:00.320 Roll Suprema. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:07.840 Prima role prima suprema rollm up. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.519 We haven't heard that. We we've not heard that. In 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:21.000 a minute, ladies and gentlemen, this is quest Love Supreme. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.680 My name is Questlove, the de facto host of the show, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:32.840 the namesake of the show. And uh, you know, we 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.040 are here to celebrate. I do not want this to 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:43.480 be a mournful episode, absolutely not no. But why he's 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:44.600 like ready to let it. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:46.800 Don't blame me. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.200 I mean it is an ind of era. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.240 So we are celebrating and it may get emotional because 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:53.400 it's been a long journey. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.080 We're allowed to be emotional. Let's let emotionals, all right. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.720 So last night at dinner, I admit it that I've 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:06.000 to watch one Q on YouTube. So I don't know 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:10.280 if the scale has tipped to this being a podcast 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.000 to this being a YouTube show. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.520 I don't know if we have more listeners or more viewers. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.600 So, oh that's a good question. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:21.520 Listeners. Okay, got it. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:26.240 Older audience radio still believe in radio. Yes, so our listenership. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.920 You know, we've kind of have a quasi even though 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:36.240 we started twenty sixteen, we've done ten seasons of Quest 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.800 Love Supreme and you know, so in my mind it 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:40.680 feels like ten years. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.160 Yeah, mine as well. Tell round off exactly. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.840 So to be fully transparent with you loyal listeners out there, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:58.880 this is sort of officially the last episode of Questlove Supreme. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:08.160 Is so hard, right, listen, it's a celebration. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.560 You know what I mean, we are doing it's like 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.440 a TV show because you know, I was telling somebody earlier, 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.279 I was like, in radio you don't get to say goodbye. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.040 That's in TV where you do a finale. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:16.800 Flatter about that. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.240 So when a person's doing their last episode of a 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.600 show or whatever, in radio, they don't let you say goodbye, 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:25.279 give you flowers. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.600 Or anything unless you're leaving. But it's very rare that 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.800 a person is like leaving and gets to say goodbye. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.280 It's because you got fired. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:37.279 Softer radio leaves on their own, will most don't. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:38.880 I'm gonna say most don't. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.800 Maybe I think shoot, Tom Joyner might be the one 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.440 that walked away when you think about it, you know, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.160 all right, well I we're starting. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.760 Still working, we're officially yeah, but I doubt he's Remember 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:54.440 it used to be controversial, right right, Yeah, it's not, 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.760 and now it's like politically on our side of the fence, 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:58.640 which is something I never thought. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:03.520 Man, what have Wow, Joe Rogan happened to exactly. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.480 All right, Joe Rogan sort of became a new howardz Wow. Okay, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:08.280 I didn't up that. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.719 Yeah, So to let our listeners know, I guess maybe 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.040 it's we end the way we started, which is technically 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:21.400 I guess Episode two with Bill Sherman with guests. Guest 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:26.120 Bill Sermons, you're right, yeah, oh that's right. It was 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.920 because Maya was too right. We just reversed it and 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.960 gave you your coach. You're like Charlie Brown, thank you, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.640 not even the star of your own Halloween special. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:36.800 Track, look at you? 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.799 Since then, a few more grays. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.520 Yeah, A lot has happened in these last air quote 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.840 ten years, man, listen, like the amount of children and 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.600 spouses and comings and goings and us as a unit. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.240 A lot has happened. I guess unpaid Bill, I will 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.839 start with you fuck do it? What was your first 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:01.640 musical memory? 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:03.840 I love it? 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.080 Oh, okay, because we never get to answer these questions. Yeah, 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.479 so what's your first musical memory? 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.400 On people being on the show for this long, I 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.320 feel like everybody's like I grew up in the church, 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:18.400 and I did not grow up in any at all. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.560 And both my parents are doctors, which I've said before, 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.960 and neither of them listened to much music. But what 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.840 they did listen to. My dad was like a smooth 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.040 jazz guy, and my mom listened to like Yo Yo 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.440 ma and Mandy Patinkin. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:32.840 Artists. Yeah. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:35.920 Montoya is like a wait time. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:42.560 Yeah walked on us. Yeah, he was a recording artist. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:43.560 He is a recording arts. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.840 He's like a big yeah, like he was in all 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:50.560 of Sondheim's musicals and stuff. He's like a yeah, I 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.360 did not And he's the you know, the famous. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.880 Wait did you get to say this to him when 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.120 he bursted in? 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.600 Well, I've known him for a while, so yes, I have. Okay, yeah, 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.880 I mean it's not like that anyway. So so my 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.000 dad listened to a lot of smooth jazz and CD 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.040 one On one point, nine, which is no longer that station, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.400 but it was and so New York. Yeah, and being 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.520 in his car and him it would always the car 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.080 would turn on and it was always be that. And 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:15.640 then I later went on to like sort of try 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.239 to hip him to some music, but he would always 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.640 sort of put the dial back to sadly ceint Well 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.960 depends on who you ask, but anyway, CD one on 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.000 CD one point was CD. Yeah, in the days of CDs, 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.360 remember that, I thought you meant S E E D 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:34.439 Y like questionable CD. I mean in retrospect, might have 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.720 been CD no it Yeah, that was the station. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.240 So it was like the local yacht rock station. Yeah. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.400 It was mostly just like smooth jazz, like like Samborn 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.360 and Richard Elliott and uh, I don't like George Benson, 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.960 that smooth jazz worthy like the Yellow Jackets that kind 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:49.240 of ship. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.280 Yeah, no idea that that was the hot the good 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.880 days of smooth jazz like in present day is like 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:02.080 born butaxophone. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:12.000 Player plays all right, what's the first record you ever 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.680 purchased with your own money? 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:14.280 Uh? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.200 Fuck? I think it was like Dexter Gordon something something, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.520 live something, because I was a saxophone player growing up right. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.000 We We learned this really late in my evolution. I 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:25.920 played the saxophone growing up, was big jazz head, and 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.319 I think the first thing I actually bought was a 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.040 record because I used to put them on my walls. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.160 Was Dexter Gordon Live at the whatever the hell it was? 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:31.959 As I loved him. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.480 He did a movie with didn't Yes, I think Clint 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.360 East would produced it, not directed it. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:38.840 But I think you're right. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.040 I do know what you're called Around After Midnight or 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.000 everything like that. Okay? Was he acting in it or 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:44.319 do you? 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.160 I don't know, so I wasn't autobiotical. Well you're the 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:54.480 jazz about Round Midnight, Round Midnight. It's about Dexter Gordon and. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.240 He was starting in his own I don't know if 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.079 he was. I think he was in it because that's 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.440 how I first heard of out him. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.000 The soundtrack is kind of more legendary than the movie. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.480 Herbie Hancock did that soundtrack. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:12.599 Right, Okay, So I remember on the Grammys when I 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:17.560 first heard of Bobby McFerrin doing that. He's saying, uh, yeah, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.040 it was Bobby McFerrin and Herbie Hancock doing because I 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.520 was wondering, why is this guy just singing. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.520 I was like, is he going to sing words? He's 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:32.480 just gonna Okay, So then what is the first concert 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:33.440 you attended? 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:39.520 Oh, James Taylor Tilla Center. I fell asleep. I was 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.560 really young, and my dad took me and he also 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.160 fell asleep, and we both sort of fell I was 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:43.960 I was like, I don't know. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.839 But I've been that's a very soothing it was. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.400 Yes, it felt like a warm bath. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.640 Another QLs guest, James Tallen. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.199 Yeah, that was the surprising guest for me. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:11:02.079 Why didn't realize the amount of pain and depression he 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.439 like his music was the polar opposite of what his 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:05.400 life was into. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.040 And so that is one episode that. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.160 Shot me because I thought he was as sunny and 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.080 happy as his music was, and here he is telling 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:14.839 us about. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.640 Like, yeah, he should have been a comedian. He's so depressing. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:19.800 Yeah, exactly. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.160 Based on Chris rock conversation. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.240 And my other favorite person growing up was Dave Matthews, 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.920 who we also interviewed on the show and who my 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.920 heroes my whole life. Because there was a saxphone player 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.640 in the band, I thought. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:31.000 That was so cool. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.439 Dave played saxophone in the no But Dave had a 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:35.839 band with a saxophone player in it. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:37.520 Leroy, Oh, okay, that's. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:37.800 What you mean. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.920 Okay, so you were you were in of college age 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.360 when Dave Matthews was and the Roots taking. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.640 The Roots Dave Matthews and the Roots at college is. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.160 And I don't know if we've ever talked about this, 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.920 but my senior year of college, the band that played 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.760 my senior year concert was the Roots, and. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:54.360 This is at. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:56.480 University. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.199 Yeah, they rolled, they drove above us onto this giant field. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:01.920 They all walked out. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.559 Did they apologize to you guys that you weren't getting 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.080 Ray Kwan and ghost Face but you're getting the Roots instead. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.320 No, but there is a classic story that most Deaf 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.559 played at like our our cafeteria and like there was 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.880 so many white kids that he like, played for like 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.760 ten minutes and then got mad and left. That's a 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:17.200 true story. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.080 Really, Yeah, he was shocked. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.120 It wasn't most I'm sorry it was That's who was 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.760 That sounds right? That sounds yeah, Sorry, I fucked up. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.280 No question, Okay, all right, this is on the spot. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.120 What's the last album that you enjoyed from start to finish? 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.599 I know, do you know of one album that you 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:36.880 listened to from start to finish. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.520 Whence the last time anyone made an album that you 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.360 did listen to from start to Dope? I mean, my 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.880 kids are into DOCI. That record is great, and I 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:44.840 did listen to the whole thing. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.200 That's true. There you go, Okay, that record's great. We'll 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.040 take DOCI. Who are your top three guests on the show. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.120 I was just thinking about this. I loved Lenny Kravitz 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.200 because he smelled really gold. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.720 Yes, and he sat right next to me, and Lenny 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:02.600 brought a few guests out in his chest, no someone else's, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:03.280 but you. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.800 Know they were I love Yeah. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.480 The girls came out from Yeah, the girls came out. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.959 Girls are always kind of out anyway. And I was 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.520 just actually was looking at this this paper. I was, 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.679 I love what we did Scarface in Nashville. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:19.880 Awesome. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.760 Brad was super fun and awesome that day. And then 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.360 who what I'm thinking of? I like Jack White. I 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.920 thought he was great. That was super fun. And that 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.920 was three and my fair one, the yet unreleased Dave 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.079 Sappelle episode. Because in that talk about it, which was 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.680 which was a wild night, but the best part about 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.319 that night, D'Angelo came and showed up to the recording 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.240 and he sat down next to me and he introduced 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:46.480 himself to me, and I thought that was like the 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:47.840 funniest fucking thing I've ever liked. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.440 All the people like and I was like, Hi, It's more. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.199 That he also smelled good. So anyway, there you go. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.079 What would be an underrated episode in your opinion? I 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.120 think we would collectively agree that Jimmy Jam's episode was 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:12.120 the quintessential QLs episode. But what's a I almost feel 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.040 that we don't give much respect for the baby face. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.280 To me, that was that was my That was literally 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.520 what I was thinking, the baby face. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:21.040 That was crazy. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:23.680 We were tight and it was sweaty. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.480 It was like exactly. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:27.960 I also think like the ones that we did early 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.280 on in the in your in the rehearsal room, the 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.800 Roots rehearsal room was always like an interesting sould my 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.480 Roudeolph because. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:38.720 That's what it was like. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.520 If you think it's tightened here, it was like real 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.200 tight turntable chick fun turntable, chickens mel band. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:52.080 It was great. So like, what is your first musical 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:53.000 memory in life? 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:54.400 Damn I should have been I know I should have 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.000 been ready for this first music memory in life, just 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.720 dancing in my living room, listening to my parents records 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:05.720 to Brenda Russell and Angelo Bouphil and Teddy Pendergrass. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:06.320 When I was little. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.640 That was it for me. Okay, do you remember the 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.400 very first record that you purchased with your own money? 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:13.040 I think so. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.960 I think that was in Japan on spring break I 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:22.880 brought ironically, I bought Mony Love, Alyssa Milano and the 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.560 New Jack City soundtrack had an album, Yes, she did. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.000 I was a very big fan of Alyssa Milano. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:39.680 No judgment, Wait, wait time random Eliza had an album. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:39.880 I did. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.440 I didn't know that she did. She did. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.080 She was a big star to some of us, especially 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:44.680 if you, you know. 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.480 Grew up Washington. How okay, how was the album? Though? 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.320 I don't remember so great? 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:50.760 Right? 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.880 But that New Jack City album though, that bangs okay. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:01.680 Wow, I think that's an episode. And you bought it 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:02.280 in Japan? 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:02.640 Yeah? 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:04.000 Why were you in Japan? 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.920 Because my mother was a flight attendant for forty three 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.840 years and she started the She's one of the people, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.680 the flight attendants that started the Japan flights, the United 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.760 to Tokyo to Narita flights. So one year she was 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.880 like she met a friend there and she was like, 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.480 you're gonna go stay there for spring break with my 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:20.160 friend and her son. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:20.960 And that's what I did. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.600 Wow, I was twelve. Okay, do you remember the very 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:25.960 first concert you attended? 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.160 I think I remember the one that I cared about 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.200 because as a kid, I was always taking the concerts 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.760 because especially because my cousin played drums for Stevie Wonder. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.400 But the one that I remember was Bad. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.320 Wow, you got to see the Bad Tour? Yeah, man, 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.240 that didn't even come to Philadelphia. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:41.360 I was still angry at that. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.120 You saw it in New York or in Maryland at 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:45.840 the Capital Center. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.360 That's right, you're not a Philadelphia. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.880 She came to Maryland and not Philadelphia. Feels like a death. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.680 Well, no, no, I didn't come to Philly. That's weird. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.720 Oh no, it's weird. It could have been local promotions, 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.000 you know. I meant now, of course, like Live Nation, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:06.280 like everything is nationalized. But back in the eighties things 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:11.640 were regional. But Philly was always getting the shortened the stick. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:16.000 I have a sound check. So Prince does the Purple 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:20.680 Ringe Show Thanksgiving of eighty four in Philly, and there's 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.639 a moment when he's sound checking, we's like I hate Philly. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.000 So it was like all the other sound checks he's 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.879 like happy to be alive whatever, and here it's just 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.760 like I hate Philly on the PA system. So yeah, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:38.480 thanks Prince. I appreciate that. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.320 What is the last album or you already said doughchy, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:44.560 But yeah. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.919 I'm kind of I'm in. I'm all in on her 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.280 her you know what, her multiple listens like you multiple listens. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:51.760 But also you know who y'all got me into, and 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.600 I'm glad I did when I did was Salt because now, 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.359 of course everybody is going to see Cleo wherever she 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.240 appears in whatever city. So yeah, I've been listening to 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:01.879 them a lot too. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.720 Okay, who are your top three guests on this show? 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:10.639 I'm gonna say, oh, you mean shows like good Good Conversations. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.440 Your your three favorite. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.280 I'm gonna do a random one because she's my favorite 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.480 because I feel like there was more to talk about 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.360 and I always she stays in my head, and that's 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:19.960 Heather Hunter. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.479 Heather Hunter was one of my favorites. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:23.320 I really so. 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.480 Pissed that I missed that one. So many questions. I 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.640 was about to go all in full eye contact giving 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.040 all the heather, please did it. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.200 There's a part two to that conversation. I always felt 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.040 like just me and her, we But that's the whole thing. Solange, 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:42.280 Solange salone, Salon Salange, especially off the hills of that 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:47.960 Saturday Night Live, that Bill Murray is knit and I don't, 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:53.720 oh shit, Quincy Jones man sitting on his couch talk 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.359 about talk about I mean, it was uncomfortable at times 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.920 because you know, he did talk about my toes. 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:04.200 A lot, and he also talked about your astrological sign. 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.080 Yeah, whatever you want to call it. 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.160 And I'm on the corner like I'm an aquarium too. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:13.719 Even in the video I got him, he like them 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.919 to to I'm like, Lord, those toes. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:22.960 Man, because he always. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.840 He always sounded to me like someone imitating Sammy Davis Jr. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.040 Always with the cough drop in his mouth, like always 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:35.359 sort of a cough dropping thing. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.840 But yes, legendary man. 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:39.520 Yeah, I think we should. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.080 It's a hard thing to just narrow it down to 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.600 to three, but I understand that's what we gotta do. 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.080 But I'm looking at all these pictures, all these moments, 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:47.480 and I'm like. 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.480 Do we physically have that? Quincy Jones episode. 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:54.960 We Steve. 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.639 Okay, but we do know somebody has it though. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.800 Right on we all we got episodes being held hostage. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.160 We got a few episodes hostage. 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:07.840 That episode went straight to the Tone Museum. 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:10.680 Why is held hostage? 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:11.440 Now? 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:12.560 Rogers, where are you at? 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:13.160 Hell? 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:13.800 Hostage? 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.800 We did interview. It was just one so short that 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:19.640 it stopped that reference. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:20.800 To light and it was one more. I can't remember 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:21.520 the other one that was hell. 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.840 Yeah, yeah, because we had uh, Macio wasn't there. It 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.000 was just poss and Dave we did. It was right 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.440 after anonymous. Nobody had dropped right, uh, David pass. 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.440 I was also like to throw in a mention, the 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.360 honorable mention, because nobody has done this and it needs 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.320 to be mentioned, the rever fucking loution. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.600 What we did with the revolution and for what. 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:50.560 Watching you d that was magic. That was crazy. But 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.520 when they sang sometimes it's now in April, I had 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:53.159 to walk outside. 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.439 Yeah that that was Maya Rudolph at that. 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.040 Event was my room, yeah, my yeah, my room office 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.080 there and I remember, yeah, they did sometimes the snows 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.840 in April. Crazy enough. I wasn't really like that wasn't 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.760 the one that got me, like, I was watching that 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.879 cool when you played come Home. I don't know what 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.760 it is about this song that is a sleeper prints song. Yeah, 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:19.680 no one man, you played that one. And that was 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.280 around the time too. That was literally like days after 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:26.840 my dad had died. And so that that that night 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.879 of revolution, that was just the I never I never 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.159 forget that because it was right when I needed it, 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.560 because like, my daddy just died, and uh, that's boss 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.240 Bill was still here and he was having. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.679 Like the time, he was having enjoyment that we had 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:40.399 never experienced in our lives. 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:45.000 I've never seen in my life, right, brother Bossville man. 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.760 But uh but yeah, so but nah, revolution that was 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.119 that was epic ship. That was dope conference room actually, 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:52.320 now you say it. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:58.840 We also interviewed probably our most eye opening Prince interview 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.560 we never got the air, which was Robbie his assistant. 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.159 All right, we didn't air it. 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.880 If there was such a thing as t back then, 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.520 that would have been the episode. I mean Robbie basically 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.760 spoke of being Princess Valet his jerome from like eighty 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:22.119 three to bringing up pianos on cranes into his suite. 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.640 I think he even spoke one time where a kind 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.600 of had a shoving match over something and he was 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:34.400 real with it. All I know was that the higher 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.720 upset Pandora, whoever was a Scott shout out to Scott Hello, 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:44.680 But I forgot that Robbie Prince's valet also got interviewed, 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.720 and we never focused on that one. So Sugar, Steve, 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.119 what is your first musical memory? 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.480 First musical memory, I mean there's a lot of AM 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.440 radio things I could say, and early Taper quarders. I 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.240 had things like that with my sister singing. But my 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.320 mom had an acoustic guitar in the house and she 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.200 was playing John Denver songs. That's I think sort of 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.119 my first actual musical memory. 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.000 Your mom plays guitar. No, no, she was just faking it, 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:15.320 but I. 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.639 Didn't know any better at the time. She's incredible. 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.920 I should know based on Steve in our thread chat 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.400 posted a photo of him. 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:34.119 How many bass Cities, Yeah, that's a lot. 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:35.480 How many Princes albums you own? 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.200 Yeah, but I don't own multiple, Like, yes you do, 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.240 We've seen them DJ though I'm allowed to have. 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.440 Oh well, I mean you have like I'm a WONDERAMA 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:53.000 generation person, you know, as some of us are here. 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:56.080 So every bas City Roller album you see, you just copy. 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.960 It of that specific one. Yeah, that first American one 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:00.440 with Saturday on it. 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.840 It's kind of very specific. 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.000 Yeah, it's really just that one album that I'm obsessed with. 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.119 You can I ask, what's the bas City song that 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:07.840 I would really know? 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.040 Saturday Night that's the only one. 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.320 Yeah. But they were just they were the one direction 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:17.120 of the seventh Yeah. 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.720 Yeah, and they were. And that's kind that's kind of 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.679 my first concert to not the basically Rollers, but Bob McCallister. 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.040 He would go around and do like these little, you know, 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.119 concerts for kids. So he was the justine of the 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.520 instinct of No. Bob mcalster was the host of Wonderama. 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.320 He was like an old Oh, he was like the 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:36.760 best soul trained guy. 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:42.800 So Basity Rollers were the Shalomar of One Durama. Yes, 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.240 Salamar manufactured from Soul trained. 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:46.800 Well, I don't. 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.119 They weren't manufactured for by One Durama, but yeah, they 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.960 were kind of the okay, yeah, all right, kind of 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:54.320 the symbol almost at that. 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.840 Time network did One Dama come on, I know the logo, 0:24:58.040 --> 0:24:59.879 but I just think it's slider wheels. 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:04.119 No, that's the abs. It's not PBS. I don't know. 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.400 You only remember kids are people too, but I don't. 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.840 Yeah, well that's fine. Calis tour the country just singing 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.800 that song over and over again everywhere. But my first 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:17.679 real concert was Billy Joel the Garden eighty four, you know, tour. 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.320 In his prime jone Okay, uptown. You know I picked. 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:23.200 I was complaining to you all night. 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:28.040 I chose the one Billy Joel show in which he 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:29.960 decided not to do any hits. 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:31.800 Oh my god. It was his birthday. 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.000 You know, he had the residency at master Square Garden, 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.320 and so he was like for his birthday, I'm gonna 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.119 gift you the fans all the B sides and the 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:46.160 deep cuts, and literally, I mean everyone's losing their minds 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:47.000 because he's like, you know. 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.360 It's like, oh my god, open with the erotic city, 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:50.040 like I mean. 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:54.159 Like he's doing like the deep stuff, and you know, 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:59.199 I just sat there like waiting for starting something. Actually 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:01.520 that it was the one time he did. We didn't 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.520 start the fire. And everyone's laughing. 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:09.879 Because I guess the worst song ever. Yeah, really they 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.320 don't rock with that song. I had to do a 0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.920 report on that song in like fifth grade, So yeah, 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:14.399 why is it? 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:14.840 Oh? 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.360 Yeah, all the historical references in it. I's just had 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.720 to Yeah, we had to find out like what it 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:20.719 was and look it up. 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.320 Like if a song gets too big, where like your 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.560 science teacher knows the song or your pastor your church 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:30.960 knows it, then that's when the backlins, like everyone had thrillers. 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.119 So then it's not a song, it's a list of 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:39.760 fucking names. But you don't think that it's rather rather shitty? Yes, 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:44.199 I do, I really feel get me started. 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.920 No, No, because this is a question that I will 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.000 get to later, which is basically, how have your music 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.960 tastes changed from twenty fifteen to now in twenty twenty five, 0:26:56.000 --> 0:27:01.200 I will say that my instant dismissal of pop music 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.000 has definitely changed in the last ten years, where I 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.520 will be the one that meant that, Yeah, I'm quick 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.120 to dismiss something that I think a common person would 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.400 like because I think that we choose our music based 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.960 on likenobbery. Yeah, like they like that, Well I'm better 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.159 than them, so I'm gonna pick the obscure band. But 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.080 once I realized that it's hard as hell to write 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.680 a good pop song, listen. Then yeah, I respect the game. 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.639 Actually I learned it at and Juliet. 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.720 Good place to learn, Aelia. 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:47.440 But for you, here's the melody that that that that that's. 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:48.800 That's easy, it's oh my god, it ain't uptown. 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.080 And then the next song he did was in the 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:56.200 Middle of the Night, which right, which is fun fact, 0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:02.040 my first month working at Rough Records, Joe Niccolo produced it. 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.840 I think the backstory is and that's I'm sorry, Joe Nicolo. 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:12.560 I apologize. If there's one besides Arthur Baker, another luminary 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.359 that has been always in my dms, like when am 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:16.720 I going to get my turn to tell my story? 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.440 Espectly after we had Chris, I know he liked Yeah. 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.240 Yeah, he definitely wanted to get on the show. 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:27.240 Sorry, apologies, but I guess Joe Nicolo would add a 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.680 lot of break beats under his rock stuff, which kind 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.760 of ninety one ninety two really wasn't a thing. So 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.960 him looping the funkadelic good old music drum break in 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:43.960 that song kind of you know dog was for hip hop? Yeah, 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.880 or you know, I guess for those that are wondering 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.360 in nineteen ninety two, how do I avoid the unsung 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:51.720 and then hip hop. 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.920 Came alright, syndrome embrace it. 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:56.960 Yeah, it's like, oh, what can I do? Okay, I'll 0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.000 put a break beat in anyway. So I got to 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.160 see at least the first day of him looping met 0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.200 in the drum machine for Billy Joel, I didn't get 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:06.000 to see Billy Joel. 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.680 But so, who are your top three guests on the show. 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.240 Oh, I'd have to look at the list to really 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:13.440 answer this question. 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.680 I am I'm going to okay. 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.160 One non jazz se do one non jazz person. 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.440 Well, he didn't do any we didn't do it mention 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:24.440 any jazz artists. 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:25.440 Yeah, he hasn't yet. 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.920 I mean for obvious reasons. Costello, you know, that's a 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.840 classic episode, the one on one or I'm glad you 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.160 won one with Costello. 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:36.840 What's so funny because your one on one is one 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.080 of your classes episodes. 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.880 Well, it was epic and it wasn't harder, and it 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.600 was like, you know, once in a lifetime for a 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:44.400 Costello fan. 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.880 They definitely appreciated you asking the questions that no journalist 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:48.680 has ever asked. 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.200 Yeah, it was it was. 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:51.440 That was a classic one. 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:54.400 And my Nick Low one, my one on one with 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.000 Nick Low was pretty special as well. It was and 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.200 the ones we did an electric Lady roy Ers, you know, 0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.760 because he had recorded so many records there and I 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.760 thought that was super special and Herbalpert I liked all. 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.960 That was a great electrically. Yes, all right, Tigola, Yes, sir, 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.120 Your first musical. 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:19.120 Memory, her first musical memory and the first record I 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:20.200 bought with my own money. 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:25.400 Sorry, first memory, I guess I would say this was 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.920 in my grandmother's house. My mother just always played music, 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:33.880 and uh, she had a copy of Thankful by Nalie Cole, 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.920 which is like wow, yeah, so it's yeah, so yeah, 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:42.040 this is the one look my man. So she had 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.960 that and yeah, that record is just like a direct 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.320 portal to my childhood. Like I just remember like picking 0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.520 it up and like the texture of it. It feels 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.000 like a painting. It's not like a regular joint. Even 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.040 the album cover felt yeah exactly. You feel like textures 0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:56.600 kind of ridges in it. Yeah, it was like a 0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.320 painting of her. And I just remember that and just 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.480 seeing the red label on Capitol just spin around around. 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.560 So my mother would always just play that record. She 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.440 would also play for some reason, I don't know, why 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.120 she loved this song so much, but Love Jones by 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.240 Johnny Guitar Watson. We had a forty five of that 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.240 real Yeah, okay, so we would be, you know, cleaning 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.400 up on Saturday mornings and just playing music, and that 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.120 was you know, that was the kind of stuff we 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:23.520 listened to. 0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:28.719 I gotta say I will double down on the Thankful album. 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:35.480 If there's ever a fuzzy memory I have of my childhood, 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.840 it's I think my dad picked me up on a 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.800 snow day, and back when snow days were special, when 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.880 the teachers are like, okay, kids, you're going home early today, 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.560 and it was like, you know, especially if it's like 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.840 ten thirty, like you get home out a whole day, 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.200 right when price is writ and cartoons come on or whatever. 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:57.400 And yeah, so driving home in a snowstorm listening La 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.600 Costa is more or less like a tropical sound record, huh. 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:06.000 But for me, it's a winter like whatever you think of, 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.360 like a good Christmas or like the winter thing. That's 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.280 that's what you associate with it every time I hear 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.600 that song. If I want to think of my dad 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:17.600 in a nice way, it's just us driving home, sharing 0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:21.600 a stale cheese Danish listening to La Costa on the 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.000 eight track track, Oh man. And the thing is because 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:26.959 I was born in the early seventies and really familiar 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.960 with eight tracks, occasionally the song would have to feed 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.200 oh yeah, and then come back and and always on 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.840 that bridge it would fade out. 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:48.440 So even to this day, yeah, yeah, that's my favorite 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.640 Natical album. That's probably my favorite Natal Call song without questioning. 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:56.120 They gave Natalie Cole a summer special, like a one 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.960 off variety show with Earth Wind and Fire as her guests, 0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.960 but she does and her collaborator that wrote that, another 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.760 young lady that wrote that song, like, yeah, if you 0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.600 look at them on YouTube, look at Natalie called La 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.880 Costa live on her nineteen seventy seven special. 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.080 Oh wow, that shit kicks out. Okay, I didn't know 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.040 she ever did it live. Yeah, that record, I mean, 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:19.959 it was never like a single and then I think, 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.400 but that was just always just a record that just 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.320 spoke to me and just takes me directly by to childhood. Yeah. 0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.760 So those are probably my earliest musical memories, just my 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.200 mother playing records, going to my aunt's house and playing records. 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.160 My aunt she had Mam Belinda. She had a turntable 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.840 and she just had like all her records in her 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.240 like her apartment and stuff. And so whenever, you know, 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.640 you have spade night or whatever, she would let me 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.600 DJ the parties. And so this is how I That 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.880 was how I learned records. Usually, that was how I 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.560 learned music, like just seeing Okay, okay, I see the 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.440 guy's name on the cover, but the guy in the parentheses, 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.880 that's who wrote the song and he gets paid even 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:02.560 when the guy on the cover. So I want to 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.960 be that guy. Like that was my I want to 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:07.760 be the guy in the parenthesis, you know what I mean. 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.680 So I was probably like, you know, probably like seven 0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.840 you know, seven eight, you know what I'm saying. But 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.759 I would just play. I learned like how if you 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.919 don't know a record, like just kind of my rule 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.120 of thumb. If it's a record you don't know, your 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.360 best bet is either the first song on side A 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.319 or the first song on side B, because that's that's 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:29.000 the strong offering. That's that's the best one. So so 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.000 ill you know Strawberry Letter twenty three right on time, 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.840 right exactly, you know, you know. So yeah, So that 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.160 was kind of how I learned just records and playing 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.560 and learning how to read the crowd. So like I 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.799 knew if I played something and everybody as long as 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.360 they're talking, like as long as everybody is talking and 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.600 having a good time, I'm playing something, then it's cool. 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.399 If you play something and they may look at it, yeah, 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.000 they get quiet, they look or whatever, and it's like, 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:58.520 all right, you dropped some bullshit. So I like hostile 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.080 environment exactly like seven eighty. You know, it's all around 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.360 that time. But I would always just play kind of 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.239 those records and that was yeah, that was it. 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.800 Now, it's weird that you made that observation at seven 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:16.920 because mine was the exact opposite, because of my father 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:18.760 always been shopping records. 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:19.000 Yeah. 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.560 Yeah, the process is always he would go to a 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:23.440 record store. 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.000 And the guy behind the count's like, all right, you 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.040 need this that he when he saw my dad, he'd 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.279 already knew all right, mister Lee, hear your records. And 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.240 he would just gather all a bunch of forty fives 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.160 or whatever, get a bunch of records and give it 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.439 to my dad. The bill comes to three hundred bucks, 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.200 but you know it's nineteen seventy year three thousand dollars right, 0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.799 So literally I'm carrying I'm carrying the box of forty fives. 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.880 He's carrying the LPs. We would go to rehearsal, and 0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.040 of course my dad's band would rummage through what they want. Okay, 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.880 we'll take Ohio players, We'll take no, no, no no. 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:58.279 So I would get to own the records, not show 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:02.640 left those left behind. And it's usually the flops. Okay, 0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.840 but because I'm six and seven, I don't know anything. 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:06.600 I know it's a flop. 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.320 So I will say the first ten years of my 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.200 life was loving nothing but the flops. 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:15.440 But I can see but that I can see as 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.840 a DJ, that becomes kind of a superpower because you 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:20.880 know you're looking where no one else is. Like, you 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.839 can still find stuff on them records that like someone 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:24.760 else would overlook. 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:29.480 But to this day it makes me not like I 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:33.400 never liked the hit single, which I mean again, I 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:37.600 feel like Stevie Wonder is more defined by pastimes. I mean, 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.080 that doesn't count because Coolio sampled it. But that wasn't 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.640 a single, right, fun fact, I think I mentioned this before. 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.000 Do you know that isn't she Lovely was not a 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.000 single because Radio just I mean DJs thoughts, DJ's were 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.320 allowed to play whatever they wanted to and you know 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.960 that sort of thing. So yeah, like for me, it 0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:00.320 was always the filler and the flop song that tracked 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.440 me and whatever I had Steve send Joeman as a kid, 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.440 like if it was love roller Coaster, I didn't like that. 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:09.120 But you know, if it was fop fop, that was 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.320 my ship, right exactly, that was my ship. When was 0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:13.480 the first concert you ever went to? 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:18.200 First concert I ever went to? It was the fresh Fest. 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:23.000 This would have been nineteen eighty five six something like that. 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:27.080 This is Greensboro Coliseum, shit, And this was my uncle Brod. 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.440 He took me. It was Fat Boys, Run DMC Houdini, 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.040 and yeah, that was the first time I really saw. 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.360 I just remember seeing Run DMC and I remember seeing 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.759 you know one that night. I feel like the Fat 0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.040 Boys might have won. The Fat Boys they went off. 0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:44.719 I remember that. I actually my uncle actually brought me 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.680 a fat Boy's sweatshirt that night. Yeah, I mean he 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.080 did it on the low. I still have it. I 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:51.680 don't have it. I wish I would have kept it, man, 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.719 but nah, I don't have it. He took me out 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.080 one night. It was him and me, and he had 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.600 this girl he was seeing and her kids, you know 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.080 what I mean. And so we all went and so afterwards, 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.040 like he dropped him off and then we went in 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:04.440 the car and he was like, look, I got you this, 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:05.800 and he got me a sweatshirt. 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:05.960 You know. 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.160 He couldn't afford to buy everyone. He couldn't flex. He 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.839 couldn't flex. So I was like, I appreciate it. But yeah, 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.960 that was my first show and I just remember seeing 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.240 that and that was definitely the line in the sand 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.240 of like, Okay, Luther and Patty is my mama's music, 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.799 but this is my music, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.160 I guess I maybe this was like I was in 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.600 first grade, so I might have been yeah, around the 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.840 same time, like seven six seven something like that. 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.360 Yeah, man, like I I know, I want to know 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.920 what that feels like, the witness hip hop at a 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:35.640 young age. 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.040 Yeah, yeah, you know it was nine. 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.000 I still feel like I'm the elder Statesman when Rappers 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:42.680 Light came out. 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:46.680 But for you, you're like, nah, I was I warn't 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:50.680 in it? Yeah yeah, yeah, it was yeah, one seventy eight, 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.120 but you're one one right exactly. Yeah, bro so nah, man, 0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.040 that was my first concert, and that was the first 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.560 time I saw like I was like, yeah, I want 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.920 to I didn't know even like wanting to do this, 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.160 like what that meant. But it was just something in 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.520 the music that spoke to me, and I was just like, Yeah, 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.279 this is me, this is this is my side of 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.560 the street. Gotcha all right? So what's the last album 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.120 you enjoyed from start to finish? Man? 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:13.439 Last? 0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:16.200 I mind joy from start to finish. Actually just been 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.080 I just been back on my vinyl shit. Man, I 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.239 think the last record I bought, I just think of 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.560 off the top swing out Sister is Better to Travel. 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.000 That's why you're doing that on your ig. I just 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:30.800 in the crib. I just been in the crib playing records. 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:31.959 I'm just like, all right, this is what I'm listening 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.760 to now, and I just throw it up and it's. 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:38.160 Harder to skip or whatever. If it's on vinyl, you 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:39.560 gotta let it go to it. 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.880 You also got like a whole thing Fante. You was like, 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.640 because if it's new to me, it's new. That's what 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:45.680 he said to me last week. 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.520 Yeah new to me new, Yeah it's not you know. Now. 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.080 The one thing I will say was good about just 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.520 the Internet and kind of everything streaming. All that is 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.120 that it really erased. There's no such thing anymore as 0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.080 new music or old music. It's just stuff you know 0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.439 and stuff you don't. So if it's a that came 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.359 out in seventy two, or it's a song that came 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.359 out yesterday, if I'm hearing it for the first time, 0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:07.359 that's a new song to me, you know what I mean. 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.239 So that was one of the ones that Swing Got 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.160 Sister record. I knew breakout right and I knew like Surrender, 0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:13.920 but I'd never heard the whole album. Can we now 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.399 say that Twilight World is the best song that shot 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:20.839 they never got to re Let's talk about it, yo, man. 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.080 Yeah that yeah, that record. Yeah, if you see it 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.319 out anywhere, Like, if you like Twilight World, Swing got. 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.920 So this is the first album day first up. It's 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.120 better than Travels. Yeah, their first album. That joint is 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:32.319 fire in the end. 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.080 Yeah, I will say, Yeah, if you had a shot 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:39.000 a Junes and couldn't wait for an entire four years 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.640 for her to get the next record rerenning, that's how 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.320 I let Swing out Sister in my life. Actually, Twilight 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.160 World's another one, like when I want to think of 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:50.560 like high school, tenth grade or whatever, like you know, 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.400 you calling a joint up or whatever, like this is 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.080 like your audition in Twilight World. 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:56.560 Do you not know this song? 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:04.320 Oh yeah, okay, that whole. 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.800 Record is yes. See, I think that's the last. I 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.719 think that's one of the ones I caught, just in 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.440 terms of fulling, because mostly I mostly caught twelve inches 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.360 for the most part, but I do have like Ye 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.719 had swing Out Sister. That album is crazy. Trying to 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.640 think of some other ones. God, I just just think 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:25.080 of like full length records that I was up on. Yo. 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.360 There's a record Manolo but Drinking. You probably know this 0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.560 with Steve. I'm sure Manolao but Drina. He's like a 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.319 percussions guy. Used to be a weather report. He had 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.320 a record that came out on A and M in 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.560 eighty I want to say eighty one. It's just called Manolo. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.920 That shit is crazy, like the first it's produced by 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:49.280 herb album produced it and Noah, yeah, it's just called Manola. 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.839 It's not on streaming, it's just yeah. 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.840 I was just saying, okay, so it's not Spanish in 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:55.800 any type of way. 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.839 No, it's not. I mean it's you know, Latin jazz, 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.279 you know what. But the first the first side is 0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.400 like crazy, and then the second side he kind of 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.239 you know what, the Saturday is fucking fire. But uh, 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.719 that was just another musical discovery I found. I was like, oh, 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.759 this shit is crazy. All right, who are your top 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.320 three guests? 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:13.480 Man? 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:20.160 Top three guests? Man, I gotta say, oh man, this 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:20.560 is god. 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:21.120 This is tough. 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.800 No matter how I think about, it's tough. Man. I 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:28.840 want to say I really enjoyed the Dungeon Family episode, 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:33.520 Like you know, we got Rico, you know, God rest 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:33.879 his soul. 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:34.120 You know. 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.040 Man, that was just because I mean that music was 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.120 just you know, their music, and I think I got 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.200 to give them flowers. I'm like, by y'all, music really 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.000 got me through some shit, you know what I mean. 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.720 And just you know, coming from the South and seeing 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.200 Dungeon Family just that collective what they were doing, you 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.000 know what I mean. And you know that just opened 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.640 up a whole new world for us. So definitely Dungeon fam. 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:59.840 I will say, oh my god, man, yo, llll COOLJ 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.120 like LLL I was in he was in rare form. 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.000 I'm done playing Detective Peak. 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:11.520 That was. 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.600 That was and uh, man, let me see for my 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:18.359 last one. Three I will probably go yeah, man, I'll 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.279 go with uh, I go with the Porner sisters. I 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.520 go with the sisters. I never that was my first 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.280 time seeing them, and crazy enough, like I had actually 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.279 heard for the like for the first time. I bought 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.399 that record, the one the Porters of the Self type 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.400 their debut, because I never heard the whole I mean, 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.560 I knew can Can, but I never heard the whole album. 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.200 And stylistically the album is kind of all over the place, 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:44.600 but vocally they are singing the fun oh my God. 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:52.640 Their versual album, their version of River Yeah verse Man 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.040 covered Lambert Hendrickson. 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:55.160 Yah. 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.680 That ship is a vocal master class. So I was 0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.319 really thankful that we got a chance to meet them 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.000 a Bondie porn and roof corner and uh and just 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.200 give them their flowers. That was an amazing episode. Yep, 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:05.719 it was. 0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:18.000 What is like our underrated episodes Faith, I will say 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:22.360 that's a disappointing episode if we will collectively say that 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:29.000 maybe Faith's episode lacked, and I'm almost certain it's because 0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:30.960 she knew too much. 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.799 We also five hour episodes back then. 0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.919 That was too right. That was a lot to ask. 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:41.880 So what did you order for lunch at? 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:42.919 Yeah? 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.720 But her and the old girl that directed Detroit. 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:51.080 I was like, that was kind of Catherine. Yeah, underrated man, 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.520 I thought uh Leroy Burgess episode. I was really glad 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.320 we got him. That was kind of underrated for me. 0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:00.440 He was like just really just an unsung architect of 0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.600 you know, black music in you know, in the late 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.640 seventies post disco period. And yeah, that was Yeah, he 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:09.560 was That was one of my top I thought we 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:10.319 were underrated on. 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.440 I'm a shout out George Faison just because it might 0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.759 not be appreciated in this moment, but that's going to 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.080 be a part of a historical story. There's not a 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.520 lot of black dance oral history. 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:26.719 I gotta say his part of what is now will 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:30.719 eventually be the Earth Wind and Fire documentary. He was 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:35.640 very clear and concise and and he's a major part 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.680 of that story. Like and seeing Jesus Christ, like his 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.680 all the footage on him and his prime Yeah, him 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.000 given instructions and all that stuff. Like there's a lot 0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.840 of dance rehearsals and the way that instructs. 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.200 So that's awesome. Yeah, I have all like an absolute 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.399 respect for for for for his work. 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:56.439 I love q Tip. 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.000 He was so into me music as much as we were. 0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:02.840 I thought that was so he got us hyped. 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:04.120 Yeah, and he was like it was like we were 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:04.920 at his bar mitzvah. 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:11.680 And finally and finally the internet got to see what 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.600 the what the crook Clinton sample was so and it 0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:16.560 was on It wasn't. 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.200 Okay, yeah, yes it was on the can't just say 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.480 those recordings that we did at what was we were 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:23.480 we at Central? 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:24.160 No anything? 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.360 I'm about to say, l A, we were at. 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:35.239 Those Garrett say Garrett Shaka, Yeah we weren't. She wasn't 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:39.479 at that studio, but Russian that was a different. 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.600 That was different I was talking about, is right, Dion. 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.000 Colet U, Danton. 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.920 Shout out to uh old boy just saved it down. 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:56.680 They purchased. I will also say that for me, we. 0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.440 Got to ask all those questions but to well, I'm 0:46:59.440 --> 0:46:59.960 not gonna. 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.680 Saying every Okay, so you know my first musical memory 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.160 is well, we all found out that I had a 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:11.160 fear of music modulations because I've gotten a second degree 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.680 burn on my leg running in the house and slipped 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:19.239 on the radiator. Wow, right when Curtis Mayfield changes the 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.520 key and Freddy's dead to the higher key, right souls, 0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.000 which probably also a subconscious Sorry. 0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.279 It's all right. I didn't know you had a fear 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:31.799 about yo. 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.400 If you have a modulations, yeah, I have just a 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:38.799 song for you, with the exception of Golden Lady, Are 0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:39.840 you up human Nature? 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:40.200 You up? 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:44.120 On ish? Don't stop? It's don't stop. It's a t K. 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:48.000 It's on TK disco. It's a disco record. No, don't stop. 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.680 That song modulates like eighty times at the end. It's 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.840 like a long disco joint and it just keeps going up. 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:57.120 It's is hilarious, it's not. It's not so people modulate 0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.880 for like of uh, like sweeping. 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.040 What's the Michael Jackson man, I mean like that one 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.320 on every four every eight minutes. 0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:07.120 What's on. 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:09.160 Marry Me? 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.080 Like will be there? 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:12.359 Yeah? 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:17.200 Okay, but that song is so lyon King Doubt it 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:18.640 doesn't feel scary to me. 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:24.080 So here's the like sensory overload modulations. The thing is 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.919 is that now this came out when I was well one. 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:32.759 This burning accident happened when I was three, So this 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:37.279 sort of ties into him being on soul train. And 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.200 this probably also explains my soul training obsession because all 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.640 I remember was seeing him perform. Like again, I'm on 0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.040 my back. They're trying to whatever butter my leg or something. 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.920 How did you burn yourself? Like what was believe? Did 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.120 I know? And you shouldn't be that. Yeah, we used 0:48:54.120 --> 0:49:03.840 to do that to help you. So I guess it 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:05.759 was a black No, that was yeah, we you but 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.520 if I burned the hand he put butter on you. 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:12.239 Yeah, according to my sister, Uh, I just got off 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.719 the bathtub drying me off, and I was running and 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:19.320 we were staying in Compton because my parents were recording. 0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.200 We leave the congress ally record. So my grandmother lived 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:28.520 in Compton, and I ran past the front door of 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.319 my grandmother's house and I guess there's a slippery kind 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.880 of rug. She didn't have a vest of you, so 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.480 kind of like a slippery rug thing. I slipped on 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:37.440 the rug and I guess I. 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.800 Landed and my tire right leg. 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.440 Just hit the radiator and the radiator was on at 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:49.520 least a trillion light and blood was out and everything. 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:50.360 And I'm screaming. 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:55.000 They're putting oil all over my leg and all I 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:58.560 can hear just like CTSD shit totals. 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:11.600 But literally when this part happens, Okay, can it creepy 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:12.480 out like that? 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:13.400 Is like the. 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:22.200 Sound like the subway scene in the ring is like, yeah, 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:23.560 don't don't do that. 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:31.320 See see when you hear that is a yeah memory, 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:35.239 it's a trigger, right, it's a trigger memory. So yeah, 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:39.920 literally that's kind of why. Another another one is. 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.160 We can't be asking a mirror all these questions. You 0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.359 know that right wing finish well. 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:45.600 You already know it's the two episodes. 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:54.080 Yeah, yeah, at least wait, uh, that's a different one. 0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:54.600 Now. 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.759 This is where I finally worked with Bill Summons, and 0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:04.400 he basically got small bottles and just basically wow. 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.480 So that's how he would He would do that, all right, 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.000 in this particular case, probably. 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:11.920 When we filmed a commercial. 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:21.440 Michelle, Okay, So first of all, Aretha Franklin's I'm in low, 0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:21.960 we're still on. 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:22.920 His first question. 0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:27.080 Starts very spooky to me, So we're gonna go right 0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:39.200 into the middle. So even though this is modulated to 0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:43.040 another key, the way that rf Marden would. 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:47.480 Add extra reverb on her voice, this too would scare 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:48.040 the ship of me. 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:50.279 Right here. 0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:01.360 So I feel like she's been pushed off a mountains where. 0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.160 Spare Remember when we could use music back in the 0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:06.600 Pandora days, like we could actually do it. 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:10.000 I don't understand how I heard is the most powerful 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:12.319 radio conglomerate in the world use music? 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:12.640 All right? 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.960 It's about your whole that's the most famous. 0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.840 Oh dude. Yeah, also a great episode. 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.200 You ever want to scare this guy? Remember when hold 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:22.800 we just had like one lamp in the background. 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:24.800 No, no, I'm talking about I'm not talking about interviewing, 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.320 talking about the song that we broke the we did. 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:29.960 We break up? 0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:36.040 Probably the song that scared the Jesus album the most. 0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.080 This is the number one modulation. 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:40.239 What was the question? 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:40.560 Now? 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:44.960 The number one modulation scarce the number number one question. 0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.200 There's one the monsters. There is when the monsters on 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:57.680 the bed and then alight on then war and then 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:04.560 moment like literally and then and he two is also 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:08.439 falling off the mountain side. Yeah. 0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:17.960 Yeah, if you take anything from this ten year experience, 0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:20.000 your brain works differently. There you go. 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.800 Yeah, So I will say that my first musical memory is, 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.520 without a doubt, songs that scared me. 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:33.120 Tied with record covers that scared me so or why 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:34.200 can't we be friends? 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:34.640 Yeah? 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:39.160 Yeah, uh same on the world by the main ingredient. 0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:43.640 And yes, even I still maintain that Stevie Wonder is 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:46.080 drowning in donuts and your songs in. 0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:48.480 The Key of Life. It looks like the thing of 0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:54.359 them cookies. Wait, okay, now I'm seeing the key thing 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.800 of those like Danish cookies, the ones that used to 0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:59.759 be in the Blue Teams, thing of the cover of 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:00.799 what's a short brand. 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.160 You're Stevie Wonder in nineteen seventy six, and I'm the 0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.840 art director of Motown. No, I'm the art director of Motown. 0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:08.800 You're Stevie. 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:13.479 Yeah, now I'm Stevie Wonder. You're the art director of Motown. Okay, 0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:19.759 I can described to me the cover of songs in 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.920 kid Life. All right, Stevie, we're gonna have you in 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.120 the in the center, but it's gonna be like a 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.759 brown cover. Well use that brown. It's so it's like 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:33.440 an earth tonge color. Uh uh nah, No, songs here 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.480 Life was like a brownish kind of thing. The all 0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:41.759 of them was well that was okay, yeah, alright, alright, 0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:43.080 so Stevie, all right, So you're gonna be in the 0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:46.640 middle and it's gonna have like these ridges around you 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.239 that Okay, I'm gonna feel this cookie. You feel the 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:54.279 ridges on the you know what I mean, Like it's 0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.239 gonna be that I cat Stevie touched the cookie. Yeah, 0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:57.920 that's about the best I could do for Stevie. 0:54:58.040 --> 0:54:58.440 You know what I mean? 0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:01.319 It's man dark like nah? 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:02.280 What was his response? 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:12.160 I literally, yeah, I would routinely take the records I 0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:16.879 didn't like and hide them in the basement and subsequently 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:20.279 get in trouble when my dad can't find where's my 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.720 war record? And then I gotta go in the basement 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:26.360 and like I would bury that ship under like so 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:27.640 we're big faces. 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:31.560 Was that a scary thing like Lewis Solongo? Yes, that 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:34.000 was meaning on that but yes, that that would have 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:34.880 been Herbie Handcock. 0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:37.320 Davis had ones too. 0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:37.759 All right. 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.480 Marty Clairwick who did the Bitches Brew cover in the 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.200 Herbie Handcoff His scariest one is Buddy Miles's record where 0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:47.520 Buddy Miles is turned into a mountain, like he looks 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:51.680 like jab of the Hut the Job of the Hut, 0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:56.000 and it's that too, also was in the Scary pile. 0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:00.600 So yeah, that's that's my childhood. And what was the 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:01.560 first record you bought? 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:07.080 With you on bridge? All right? So the on just 0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:08.319 like a one more answer, all right? 0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:10.560 Right, No, here's the thing. 0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:14.160 There's the thing. Here's someone purchased a record for me. 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:16.920 Now, when I do interviews, of course I will just 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:19.480 do the safe answer, which is, yeah, you know I 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:20.920 got a Jackson five record, right. 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:25.760 But the truth is that my first forty five ever. 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:32.640 Was Neil Sidaka's Bad Blood because I judge Records. My 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:40.600 favorite logo was Elton John's label, the Rocket MCA Rocket Company. 0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:43.560 It's like green and it's like a happy train on 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.960 it or whatever. Maybe I like trained soul train. I 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:49.719 don't know, but I like the way the logo looked. 0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:54.360 So I purchased Neil Sidaka and Elton John Bad Blood 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.840 also Rufus's Dance with Me on forty five because ABC 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:02.840 Records had a dope logo. I did not like Capitol 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:06.920 Records logo, which is why I never gave it an 0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:09.320 adult had to put it on if it was on 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:11.080 Capital Tavars. 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.240 I have the whole the Beach Boys, the Beatles, whatever 0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.560 I did, I didn't like it. 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:19.040 That's why I didn't That's why I recognized half the 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.800 samples on Tribe Records because I didn't listen to canniball 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:23.640 Adelie because he had a boring logo. 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:25.400 I didn't like any Capitol Records. 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:29.520 Yeah, I'm looking at some old footage. Can I change 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.360 my answers to our favorite show? Because like, dang, we 0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:32.240 had Bizz. 0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:37.120 Sleeper Summer and Stephen Hill. 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:41.760 The Stephen Hill episode That's that night, Oh God that 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:46.560 which also that this episode is also being done man 0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.560 and the worst timeline. 0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:50.840 Wait final question once the last album you listened all 0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:51.200 the way through? 0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:58.480 So I mean the thing is is that No, I 0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.040 will say that Salt is a group that I won't 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:01.440 turn off. 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:06.240 Is always on constant rotation because it's a very comforting sounding. 0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:10.880 But really like actively listening, I would probably say, like 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:15.720 maybe Doughnuts, you know what, I take that back. I 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:20.080 actually liked the album after Seated at the Table when 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:21.920 I Get Home when I think it was when I 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:29.280 Get Home Solange's album After. Yeah, like I would actively 0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.120 listen to that and like it. I will say for 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:36.880 our episodes though, probably the two episodes that made me 0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:44.200 cry is speaking of Knowles Matthew Knowles's episode that was 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:48.200 a tear jerker for me, and the Ben Veren episode, 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:54.000 Come on you the Ben the Ben Veren episode that 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.240 to me, I didn't know that he had that much history. 0:58:57.520 --> 0:58:59.439 And shout out to one of our listeners who wrote 0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.160 in a review that I didn't know if there was 0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:04.360 an issue with Roots and Alex Haley and plagiarism. 0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:07.040 I was like, oh yeah, okay, I forgot I forgot 0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:07.360 about that. 0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:11.200 Yeah that was the thing. Oh yeah, like coming to 0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:13.800 America asque sort of like he paid the money. Yeah, yeah, 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:17.760 yeah he had to. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, did not 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:18.160 know that. 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.800 For those that don't know the history of the show, 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.600 A big part of the inspiration of the show was 0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:36.439 my fandom of the Gordon Gartreil podcast or Gordon Gartrail Radio, 0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:39.440 which I guess at the time was the word podcast 0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:41.280 even a thing it was. 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.640 But I didn't really know what it was. I mean, 0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.840 we you know, it wasn't what it is now. But yeah, 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:49.840 this was back in man, this had to be two 0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:54.360 thousand and eight nine something like that, so about a 0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:57.760 year after the iPhone is invented. Yeah yeah, in terms 0:59:57.800 --> 1:00:01.800 of so yeah, brainchild man out DJ Branchild that was like, 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.520 you know, me and him go back to the boards. 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:07.280 He was one of the first people to bootleg Little Brother, 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:11.480 you know what I'm saying, and kind of spread it around, 1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:15.440 and so he dj the release party for my for 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:19.080 We when me and Nick put out Authenticity, like like 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:20.720 me and Bill like we you know, we've been in 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.400 each other's cribs, like that's my dude, And so I 1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:24.600 just hit him one day and he's one of my 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:26.480 favorite DJs. Me and him would just be on the 1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:30.000 internet like all night on AIM, like sending each other shit. 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:32.320 And so one day I hit him, I say, yo, man, 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:34.760 you want to do a podcast? And he was just 1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:38.080 like yeah, okay. And we didn't know what we were doing. 1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:41.600 I just knew, you know, how'd y'all record it? And 1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:43.960 you're in sheeparate states. So the way we did it 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:48.280 was back then. Bill would put the records together like 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:50.760 I'm like, look, man, you select the music. I'll just 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.480 do my segments just talking shit for you know, fifteen 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:55.720 minutes whatever, and then we'll just go back and forth 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:58.040 and then at the end, I'll pick a song, you know, 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:00.360 and he's like, all right, cool. So he would do 1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:03.800 his mixes at the crib and then I would do 1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:07.400 my recording my vocal parts at my crib and I 1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:09.560 just email it to him and so then he would 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:12.280 put the show together and then we just put it 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.760 up and uh. It was the thing that we just 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:17.400 started doing because this is never at the same time. Nah. 1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:18.640 It was a straightforward the same. 1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:23.120 Wow, Okay, if I can instant message to you, why 1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:25.600 would I would I show up and. 1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:29.640 Know each other? You know, who are you? 1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:30.600 Yeah? Man? 1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:32.640 So that was how we started. And it was just 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:34.760 something that I would just do, you know, we just 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:36.880 do for fun. It was just a way to share 1:01:37.040 --> 1:01:39.480 music that we listened to and you know kind of 1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:41.880 give you know, talk pop culture, talk, you know, politics 1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:43.960 or whatever, just you know, kind of talk ship. But 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:47.440 that was how we started. And you know, we didn't know. 1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:49.720 It wasn't until like I started going out and doing 1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:52.120 shows and stuff and people would be like, yo, so 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:54.520 when is going and Gaunt Trail coming back. I was like, yeah, 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.760 y'all listening to that ship. They're like, yeah, that ship 1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.560 helps me get through my workday. So we did that 1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.520 maybe a couple of years, maybe like you know, two 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:04.640 three years something like that. If I'm mistaken. 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:06.440 If I'm not mistaken, the episode is like on the 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:08.680 archives or at least on YouTube or. 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:14.120 Nah, it's pre all of that them episodes is ship man. 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:17.080 I think I think Bill may got him still, but yeah. 1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:20.000 The holder of episode is he got him. 1:02:20.040 --> 1:02:23.760 But I mean, but yeah, but like yeah, so we 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:26.560 we did that. But that was kind of how it started. 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:29.600 And so after a couple of years, I think, you know, Bill, 1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:31.520 I think he just, you know, he just didn't want 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:33.160 to do that. He was kind of his relationship with 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:36.840 DJing was changing at that time. And so a couple 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:39.240 of years later, you know what I mean. So goes 1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:42.920 the story. I get a call from shan Ji. He 1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:46.880 was like, he's like, yo, man, so Emir is doing 1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:50.479 this radio show, and he said, you know, I want 1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:55.760 you to be the Robin to his Batman, he said, 1:02:55.800 --> 1:02:58.120 but on the low, I kind of want you to 1:02:58.200 --> 1:02:58.960 be the Batman. 1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:07.080 Let's just. 1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:09.479 I said. 1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:13.640 I said, okay, man, whatever, you know what I mean, 1:03:13.880 --> 1:03:15.800 and had no idea what it was going to be. 1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:18.360 I was on a plane within a couple of weeks, 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:21.160 and the week that I got this show, this was 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:24.920 the same week that I was working on the Breaks 1:03:24.920 --> 1:03:27.840 with Dan Charnas and DJ Premiere. I was doing music 1:03:27.920 --> 1:03:32.240 for that. Shout out to the breaks, yeah, man, shouts 1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:35.320 the Dan and Premiere that whole family there was also 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:37.840 with me and my wife. We were in the process 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:41.960 of getting ready to buy our house, so we were 1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:44.840 in the middle of that. And that was also, like 1:03:44.920 --> 1:03:47.880 I mentioned earlier, my dad and my granddad died in 1:03:48.000 --> 1:03:50.760 the same week. So it was like all of this 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:54.840 was happening. And then Shanji calls and so I'm like, okay, yeah, cool. 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:56.640 So I had no idea what it was going to be, 1:03:57.040 --> 1:04:00.200 you know, getting on planes, flying back and forth from 1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:02.840 here to North Carolina every you know other you know, 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:06.280 a couple of weeks or whatever, and that was the 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:09.760 start of it. Man, and Bill was as it was. 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:12.640 Shanji told me, he said, y'all were trying to find 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:16.440 a host of cause for the show. And Bill was like, well, 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:20.560 what about Fante and shan Gee? What for me is 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:23.040 that you? Was like, oh, Man, me and Fan a 1:04:23.120 --> 1:04:26.920 gonna be arguing all the time, and sean Ge was like, 1:04:27.360 --> 1:04:30.160 that's exactly why we like, that's why we need to 1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:33.200 get it, you know. And so that was how I 1:04:33.960 --> 1:04:35.960 ended up here. So I just kind of jumped head 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:37.760 first inn and was like, all right, fuck it, I 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:39.600 don't know what this is gonna be, but let's just 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:41.640 make it dope. And so I just always tried to 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:43.760 make you know, the theme songs or whatever. I was 1:04:43.800 --> 1:04:45.919 always wanted to make sure that you know, our ship 1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:48.760 was always fresh and that we always you know, it 1:04:48.840 --> 1:04:50.480 was kind of at the forefront and just you know, 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:52.000 it was a fun show to listen to. So that 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:52.680 was my start. 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:57.920 So I don't think that our listeners know the the 1:04:58.440 --> 1:05:00.920 double role that you play on the show. Uh, in 1:05:01.040 --> 1:05:03.640 addition to being co host of it, but you're also 1:05:04.280 --> 1:05:07.600 part of the organizing team and you specifically have to 1:05:07.800 --> 1:05:11.440 like reach out to the wishless artists and whatnot. 1:05:11.520 --> 1:05:12.680 They call those producers. 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:17.880 Yes, you're you're a producer of the Showya. 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:19.200 Thank you? Oh my god. I never say that sentence 1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:21.280 before any who. 1:05:22.720 --> 1:05:26.280 Tell me what's under the hood, like how the sausages 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:30.000 made experiences? Like what were our close Pano cigar guests? 1:05:31.320 --> 1:05:33.840 Are you allowed to say which artist was the hardest 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:35.880 to organize to hardest? 1:05:35.960 --> 1:05:38.840 I mean, it's funny, I would ask, I wondered, Britney, 1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:42.480 do you think Mariah is that Mariah hardest. 1:05:42.800 --> 1:05:44.000 Would you say that Britney? 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:48.160 Okay, Okay, So Mariah had tech issues on camera, but. 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:50.360 I will say the artist that we got so close 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:52.919 to was on camera. No, she was in the dark. 1:05:53.440 --> 1:05:58.320 She was on camera, remember she was on zoom. 1:05:58.360 --> 1:05:59.960 But were in her bedroom or something? 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:02.360 Yes, and I spend yes. 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:02.760 Yes. 1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:06.760 But the one that we got so close to that 1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:09.320 me and Fante definitely flew to New York to record 1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:11.040 that never happened was Mary J. 1:06:11.200 --> 1:06:11.600 Blige. 1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:13.000 That's right. 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:14.840 We did have marriage, had Mary J. 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:15.360 Blige. 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:17.440 And then on the couple of hours before we were 1:06:17.480 --> 1:06:19.680 to arrive at the studio, they changed their mind or 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:22.920 something happened. What had happened was the greatest chase that 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:26.280 we have still been doing is probably Queen Latifah, although 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:28.640 I booked her because I don't remember, but I booked 1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:30.840 on your your series on A and E got her 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:32.640 booked for that, but couldn't get her to come around 1:06:32.640 --> 1:06:33.440 the Quest Love Supreme. 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:34.440 That's all right. 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:37.440 Oh, and then the biggest blunder, and I'm going to 1:06:37.480 --> 1:06:40.919 say my biggest blunder ever on this show. Oh my god, y'all, 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:43.040 I apologize. 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:43.680 What episode? 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:47.280 There was an episode and it was a Patti LaBelle episode. 1:06:47.320 --> 1:06:53.520 Oh we have all that there was a zoom issue 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:57.400 and I thought we was morning and show and we 1:06:57.560 --> 1:06:59.000 only got like fifteen minutes. 1:07:00.160 --> 1:07:02.360 When I tell y'all, it was so good, it was 1:07:02.440 --> 1:07:03.400 such a good episode. 1:07:03.840 --> 1:07:06.720 It was so good. Damn it was so good. 1:07:07.560 --> 1:07:15.840 Who was there? A nightmare organizing person? An assistant h 1:07:17.640 --> 1:07:18.280 what had happened? 1:07:18.320 --> 1:07:20.520 Was? Well, I mean, well we had I mean, I 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:22.680 don't want to say nightmare on their side, but you know, 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:25.680 I think that I can't remember the Will Smith debacle. 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:28.800 That wasn't his fault, right, that was and that was. 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:30.720 Before y'all woke me up in the morning. 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:33.160 You got a new person you off of. 1:07:33.200 --> 1:07:34.920 That facetimed right? 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:35.640 That was. 1:07:38.840 --> 1:07:42.120 How a lot of life has happened on this show. 1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:44.480 Y oh, let's talk about man. 1:07:45.080 --> 1:07:47.920 Yeah, all I remember was I was asleep in my 1:07:48.040 --> 1:07:51.600 slumber and then Will Smith facetimed me. I was like, 1:07:51.640 --> 1:07:55.720 why is he facetiming me? Then I rushed to put 1:07:55.760 --> 1:07:58.320 my you know, my clothes on or whatever, and like 1:07:58.560 --> 1:08:01.520 it was, and then I saw that I missed. 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:05.600 The Also one of our best, one of our best conversations, 1:08:05.600 --> 1:08:08.080 because that was postbook before everything else. 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:12.320 Happened, Yes, and we really like got into it. 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:14.480 That was good. That was a great episode. 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:18.320 But I can't remember somebody who was like really hard, difficult, 1:08:19.840 --> 1:08:20.120 you know. 1:08:21.800 --> 1:08:26.760 Just us, just you and your schedule. Yeah, all right, 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:28.439 I will say Steve. 1:08:29.240 --> 1:08:32.040 So for me, I think and you mentioned it, you 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:35.840 know the fact that your early childhood was full of 1:08:35.960 --> 1:08:41.599 memories doing like you know, fake radio shows or whatever 1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:43.519 when you're a kid, and I've heard some of these things, 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:45.880 which was really like, yo, man, when we do do 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:48.760 like a fake radio show, That to me was like 1:08:48.920 --> 1:08:51.680 the beginning impetus of you said like why don't you 1:08:51.720 --> 1:08:52.960 do a podcast or something like that? 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:56.479 So for you, who's the most overwhelming guest? 1:08:56.640 --> 1:09:00.639 Like your love for Elvis Costello is well known these circles, 1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:03.760 but I almost feel now that you're genuinely friends with him, 1:09:04.520 --> 1:09:08.000 so you know, it's I don't think it's a thing 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:10.960 where it's like before you see him, you're like, holy shit, 1:09:11.000 --> 1:09:13.840 I'm talking to Elvis Costella Like you guys are actually 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:16.679 legit friends now, correct, I mean after producing this record 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:17.439 and all that stuff. 1:09:17.800 --> 1:09:19.280 Yeah, I'd say so okay. 1:09:19.560 --> 1:09:23.040 But for you, like, is there a bucketless guess that 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:26.840 you wish we could have gotten yeah, Billy Joel. 1:09:27.120 --> 1:09:28.040 Yeah, and. 1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:33.200 Lewis Lewis. 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:34.400 We got Hue Lewis. 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:36.040 All right. 1:09:36.200 --> 1:09:40.000 So but as far as like your bucket list interviews, like, 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:43.920 have you fulfilled the majority of them at least? 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:47.240 Oh, certainly a lot more than I ever thought I 1:09:47.760 --> 1:09:48.840 would be a part of. 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:51.960 Also, you have an offspring of the show, like you 1:09:52.240 --> 1:09:53.360 started the Sugar Network. 1:09:53.400 --> 1:10:00.120 Sugar Network shout out to the Sugar Network. Yeah, well 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:01.360 it was sort of just. 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:05.560 You know, you explain how this started, because well I 1:10:05.640 --> 1:10:08.080 got the you were like pre d nice with using 1:10:08.520 --> 1:10:12.400 Instagram live stories as a radio show. 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:14.800 You would play complete records and not get caught off 1:10:14.920 --> 1:10:15.960 or any of those things. 1:10:16.240 --> 1:10:19.559 Yeah, yeah, so it was it was really a whole 1:10:19.560 --> 1:10:23.320 bunch of QLs fans that were watching our lives. At 1:10:23.320 --> 1:10:25.560 first we were doing them from thirty Rock while we 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:28.479 were mixing whatever, we'd start doing live stories. And then 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:31.760 once the once the live stories start to include the 1:10:32.400 --> 1:10:35.519 ability to bring a guest on, it was kind of 1:10:35.960 --> 1:10:37.640 the rest of it kind of wrote itself. It was like, 1:10:38.840 --> 1:10:40.960 we all have our own fucking TV shows now if 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:43.320 we want, you know, our own talk shows. So I 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:46.040 just turned mine into you know, a semi real one 1:10:46.760 --> 1:10:50.040 and it went on for kind of marriage the timeline 1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:54.120 of this podcast. But it's sort of fizzled out after 1:10:54.400 --> 1:10:56.400 season six or seven. 1:10:57.439 --> 1:11:01.799 So what constitutes a season? How many episodes in the season. 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:05.559 It wasn't like that, but thousands and thousands. 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:10.760 No, the Sugar Network was always on. I always see 1:11:11.160 --> 1:11:14.240 you keep did you keep the archives? Like after you record, 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:15.160 would you save them all? 1:11:15.600 --> 1:11:18.280 Well, they get saved anyway, I think in your in 1:11:18.360 --> 1:11:20.680 your archive, whether you whether you delete them or not. 1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:23.960 But it was kind of the you know, just on 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.600 a side project to this where it was where we 1:11:26.640 --> 1:11:29.760 would interview the not famous people, the people of the fans, 1:11:29.840 --> 1:11:32.160 you know, the people that were just watching this show 1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:33.280 or whatever I was. 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:36.799 Doing on the Sugar Network that you know in addition 1:11:36.920 --> 1:11:42.479 to that site. Fans are collective, Yeah, fan bases and whatnot. 1:11:42.600 --> 1:11:44.160 We all got to appear on the Sugar. 1:11:46.200 --> 1:11:46.400 Yeah. 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:48.320 It was It was fun. But you know, it seems 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:51.599 like Instagram Live Stories seems like it's kind of fizzled out, 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:53.599 Like not a lot of people doing lives anymore. 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:55.960 It seems like, well it's hard to also play music. 1:11:56.439 --> 1:11:56.640 You know. 1:11:56.680 --> 1:12:00.000 I didn't even realize that now there's technology on Zoo 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:02.760 that doesn't even allow me to like play a song 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:04.080 for someone when I'm on a zoom. 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:05.000 Say what now, Like the. 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:07.360 Song goes like this, and you play it and when 1:12:07.400 --> 1:12:09.720 you share a screen, well no, if you want to 1:12:09.760 --> 1:12:13.320 play music on your zoom just from the background, yeah 1:12:13.520 --> 1:12:17.120 wow music, yeah, is forbidden. They even want to stop 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:20.000 it that way, Like in terms of broadcasting. We'll close 1:12:20.040 --> 1:12:22.200 this episode was just asking you. What I was trying 1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:24.519 to lead to was I would like to believe that 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:28.840 the Sugar Network also led to another dream of yours, 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:32.800 which is starting a label. And it started out as 1:12:32.840 --> 1:12:37.280 a vanity label, but now you have a legit jazz label. 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:40.960 Like Yeah, the timeline of the label JMI very much 1:12:41.080 --> 1:12:44.240 mirrors the same timeline as this basically started around the 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:48.720 same time and the Sugar Networks started slightly after that, 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:52.599 I think. But well, yeah, it's been eight or nine years. 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:56.559 We've got twenty five records released, a good amount when 1:12:56.600 --> 1:12:59.000 you're all analog and things take a while and cost 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:02.959 a lot. So very proud of that and definitely inspired 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:04.880 by it all, y'all. 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:08.800 And the records sound awesome. They sound awesome. That's the goal. 1:13:09.439 --> 1:13:09.760 Thank you. 1:13:11.960 --> 1:13:14.280 All right, so y'all, yes, we're going to do a 1:13:14.479 --> 1:13:17.960 part two her haye to you know, ended so abruptly. 1:13:18.160 --> 1:13:19.840 We got to do a tease. All right, coming up, 1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:21.519 we're doing it too, all. 1:13:21.479 --> 1:13:24.320 Right, do they come up bathroom break. 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:26.880 We're gonna answer fan questions in part two? 1:13:27.000 --> 1:13:29.200 Yes, okay, looking forward to that. 1:13:29.640 --> 1:13:33.559 Yes, wait, that was the big lead up. I'm sure. 1:13:34.720 --> 1:13:38.479 All right anyway, or and be half of fun Tickelo 1:13:38.720 --> 1:13:41.800 and on paid Bill and Laya and Sugar Steve. This 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:45.400 is Questo and uh we will see you for the 1:13:45.840 --> 1:13:50.280 official part two of the final quest Love Supreme episode. 1:13:50.320 --> 1:13:53.400 Well, we'll all get naked. Yes, yeah, I mean give 1:13:53.560 --> 1:13:54.320 something to look forward to. 1:13:55.600 --> 1:14:02.280 They want to see you. Questlove Supreme is a production 1:14:02.479 --> 1:14:12.320 of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 1:14:12.600 --> 1:14:15.599 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.