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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two on this Tuesday. Will head to

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Speaker 1: Vegas after the show Thursday and Friday at the Fountain

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Speaker 1: have a studio audience there. We're going to be inside

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the Super Bowl. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: they traded us. Well, wonderful place, the newest hotel on

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Speaker 1: the Strip. Paul Skeens, the Pirate Psy Young Award winner,

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Speaker 1: will stop by. There was a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: story last week or a couple of days ago where

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Speaker 1: the report was Paul Skeens confided in a pirate player,

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Speaker 1: unidentified pirate player, who said that he hopes to be

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Speaker 1: traded to the Yankees by next year's trade deadline. So

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to him about that. I know that he

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Speaker 1: and his girlfriend bought an apartment in New York, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can connect the dods there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she wants to be there, give her more access

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Speaker 1: with her as well. So Paul's schemes will join us

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Speaker 1: coming up here in about twenty minutes. Reggie Miller will

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Speaker 1: join us next hour. You got the Cowboys over the

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Speaker 1: Raiders thirty three sixteen. So Dallas is four five and one.

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas is two to eight. You know, Vegas. I

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Speaker 1: look at that offense and it's terrible. They're averaging fifteen

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Speaker 1: points a game. They're thirty first in the NFL, only

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Speaker 1: the Titans. How many touchdowns have the Titans scored this year?

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Speaker 1: Have the Titans scored like ten touchdowns? Or is it

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Speaker 1: maybe twelve touchdowns? But the Raiders averaging fifteen and a

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Speaker 1: half points per game this season. And I did think

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Speaker 1: with Ashton Genty, Rock Bowers, Gino Smith, they were going

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Speaker 1: to be able to score some points. Max Crosby, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the NFL was going

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Speaker 1: to wreak havoc.

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Speaker 2: You got Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: And maybe there was going to be something there by

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Speaker 1: the way that felt like a home game for Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys last night, easy travel. Hey, let's go to Vegas

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days and watch our team win

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Speaker 1: a game. And Dallas is in this and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that, you know for clicks like they have a

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Speaker 1: chance to be in this. But you got the Eagles

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Speaker 1: coming out, you got a couple of tough games back

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Speaker 1: to back to back but at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: I got the Giants and the Commanders. Maybe you could

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Speaker 1: get you know, maybe eight nine wins. Maybe NFC is

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Speaker 1: tougher though than the AFC. There's a lot of quality

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Speaker 1: teams there, Yes, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: Your Titans, by the way, have six passing touchdowns and

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Speaker 3: four rushing touchdowns on a season, lowest in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They have ten touchdowns. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Balanced offense though, Yeah, I gotta.

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Speaker 4: Like the balance.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious the fewest touchdowns this far into an

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Speaker 1: NFL season, because ten ten is sparse.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Dylan, I.

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Speaker 5: Feel like there had to be some of those Brown

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Speaker 5: teams earlier this century that may have had less than that.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we'll look at that.

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Speaker 4: Paul got it kind of quickly.

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Speaker 3: The lowest scoring teams of the past twenty five years,

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Speaker 3: the two thousand Browns scored only one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: one points. On the season, they had nine passing touchdowns

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Speaker 3: and seven rushing touchdowns. The only thing worse than that

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Speaker 3: as far as scoring touchdowns, the Raiders of six scored

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty eight points, but it was seven

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Speaker 3: passing touchdowns and only five rushing touchdowns. That's the worst

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Speaker 2: So the Titans are on pace here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they got a record to break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they gotta check. You're saying you got a chance.

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Speaker 3: They got to slow things down on offense. They break

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Speaker 3: that record. They got to things down.

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing a pretty good job on their own.

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Speaker 1: All right, we say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock,

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Speaker 1: have another poll question coming up.

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Speaker 2: James Franklin to Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's family is taking a private tour of Florida

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Speaker 1: and LSU. Once again, Lane is not, but his family is.

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Speaker 1: And to me, the first time I heard this was

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Speaker 1: is somebody leaking this for negotiations? Because you want leverage

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Speaker 1: and Lane has leverage. You got the best year old,

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Speaker 1: missus ever had, they're going to be in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden LSU and Florida open up.

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Speaker 1: I know it'll never happen, and in this case it

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, But one time, I'd love for an

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Speaker 1: athletic director to say, are you looking at other jobs?

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Speaker 1: Are you looking at other jobs? Does that violate your contract?

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Speaker 1: Like I would, I would say decide like if you're

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Speaker 1: sending your family, why is your family going there?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 1: I know you know the athletic director is going to say, no,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to lose Lane Kiffin. But I wish

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Speaker 1: one time somebody would just say, you know what, we

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you got a better deal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why don't you go? Yeah, Paulie.

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Speaker 3: According to Stuart Mandel of the Athletic, that's kind of

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Speaker 3: what they're doing. The report is that old miss said

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Speaker 3: to Lane Kiffin, we need to know your decision before

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Speaker 3: the egg Bowl, which I think is the twenty eighth,

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Speaker 3: and that would mean that they must have given him

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Speaker 3: a great offer or they their offer and they're waiting

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Speaker 3: on his decision.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler is sitting by,

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Speaker 1: take your phone calls, Todd is here, Dylan is infancy?

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Speaker 2: What is all?

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Speaker 8: Miss? That kind?

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Speaker 9: They can get someone as good, if not better by

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Speaker 9: How fuck can they push the I need to know

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Speaker 9: by this date? Or why don't you just take that

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Speaker 9: other job? Are they in a position to really say

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Speaker 9: that's lit?

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Speaker 2: I just I can't.

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Speaker 1: It's weird when you go, hey, we want you here,

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Speaker 1: we're doing really well here, We're gonna give you a

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Speaker 1: bigger offer, but you're gonna go and talk to these

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Speaker 1: other schools.

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Speaker 10: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, I'm happily married, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see somebody in Louisiana and somebody in Florida,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll get back to you if I'm still

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Speaker 1: really happy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Deally.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of the old is flirting cheating question?

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Speaker 4: We move on other topic?

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Speaker 2: What's the pole question? For an hour or two?

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Speaker 5: Well, we got results from the previous EDDA after a

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Speaker 5: brief Twitter shutdown, it's back up. If you're laying Kiffin,

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Speaker 5: are you staying at Ole, miss, going to Florida, going

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Speaker 5: to LSU or other Sixty percent they stay at Ole.

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Speaker 1: Miss, I hope he does, but you know, if it's

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Speaker 1: not now, then it could be some other time that

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Speaker 1: he decides to go, and.

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Speaker 2: He has built up the resume to be able to

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Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, pull.

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Speaker 3: It feels like Lane Kiffin has hit his stride as

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Speaker 3: a coach. He's no longer jumping all over the place.

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Speaker 3: He's no longer too young for the stage. And you're

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Speaker 3: getting him at his prime, at his peak, or whatever

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Speaker 4: To call it.

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Speaker 3: And if you look at what they did at Alabama

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Speaker 3: when they had Nick Saban in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 3: all he did was win for the next two decades,

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Speaker 3: and every dollar they spent on Nick Saban they got

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Speaker 3: back three.

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Speaker 4: It was the best deal in sports.

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Speaker 3: The length the Nick Saban contracts at Alabama was the

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Speaker 3: best investment in sports the past twenty years. And I

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Speaker 3: think Old Miss has to look at it saying, do

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Speaker 3: we want to be seven and six again or do

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Speaker 3: we want to be eleven and two regularly? And Lane

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Speaker 3: Kiffin can keep us relevant and making much more money

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Speaker 3: by being eleven and two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But if you give him the money and put

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Speaker 1: him up there in the top five of coaches, okay,

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Speaker 1: now we're kind of saying we're gonna Yeah, it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be money. This feels like it's I've taken this as

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Speaker 1: far as I could go, almost like Brian Kelly at

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Yeah, Hey, I want to win a national championship.

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Speaker 1: You can go to LSU. I don't care what kind

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Speaker 1: they've had three different guys win national titles there.

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Speaker 2: Florida.

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Speaker 1: I want to go there. They win national titles. People

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Speaker 1: don't win national titles at Old Miss. And he would

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Speaker 1: have a fair argument with that. Yes, Todd, I.

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Speaker 9: Understand where all home this is coming from, in loyalty

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Speaker 9: and you know, are you all in with us?

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Speaker 8: But isn't there something to be said if you.

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Speaker 9: Work your whole life towards something and you're one of

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Speaker 9: the best, and you put yourself in a position where

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Speaker 9: others want to court you, don't you ow its yourself

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Speaker 9: to at least hear the math or see what it's

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Speaker 9: all about, not necessarily flirting. But I've got myself to

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Speaker 9: a level with there's an interest in me at some

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Speaker 9: big programs or whatever your job or career is. And

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Speaker 9: don't you again ow its yourself to hear other places

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Speaker 9: out just to say.

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Speaker 2: For sure, this is what the agent does.

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Speaker 1: He's got, you know, the most powerful agent in college football.

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Speaker 2: You're creating, you know.

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Speaker 1: But if Todd, if you all of a sudden said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm in the last year of my contract

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'd like to talk, you know, to Jim

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Speaker 1: Rome or Colin Cowherder. They put out somebody's name there,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you to go. If you want to

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Speaker 1: go and talk to them, I would just say, then go, okay,

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Speaker 1: do you understand that?

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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 9: I also think there's a difference between you initiating and

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Speaker 9: looking for other things as opposed to someone is approaching.

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Speaker 8: You and just wants to chat with you.

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Speaker 9: Then that and I guess the answer is supposed to

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Speaker 9: be you're saying, in all instances, I'm doing this right now.

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Speaker 8: I'll talk to you in a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you are with me, We're in it together.

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Speaker 1: But if you it now, you guys have probably been approached.

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Speaker 1: Pauli's been approached by people and they kick the tires

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Speaker 1: on this.

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Speaker 2: Hey you know, are you interested?

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Speaker 1: Paul's using pretty good and saying, hey, you know, somebody

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Speaker 1: reached out okay, But if you're actively, you know, going

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Speaker 1: to follow up, then I would just say, then just

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Speaker 1: go if that's what you're If it's almost like retirement

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Speaker 1: when you start talking about retirement, then retire. That's why

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Speaker 1: I always I tell athletes, if you're thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: then do it, because it's already in your mind. But

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Speaker 1: at some point, and I know, loyalty is dead. Loyalty

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Speaker 1: is dead in college athletics, maybe in all of sports.

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Speaker 2: But you know, there's.

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Speaker 1: Something to be said for they took a chance on you.

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Speaker 1: You came in, you delivered. Everybody wins. And if you

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Speaker 1: I understand all of those things. It's just why have contracts?

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Speaker 5: Think we just figured it out. One for one trade

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Speaker 8: Hello?

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Speaker 11: Dan? I just wanted to real quick say hello, good

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Speaker 2: Is it coaching?

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Speaker 11: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: If I had that answer, I'd be employed by Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: It's this is the way of life in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: How many times, depending on who your team is, do

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Speaker 2: Matteo? In New Mexico, Hey, Mattel, Hey, yeah, first time.

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Speaker 12: That's like when you got sick at the post Malone.

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Speaker 2: You got dinner? I think, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Tom seeing Pitbull is the.

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Speaker 8: Leash you can do. If he does show up on

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Speaker 8: We definitely did not new that.

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Speaker 1: Once again, I'm kind of in a wounded state here,

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 12: Anytime we go on a trip with you, I always

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Speaker 12: feel like Turtle or Drama from Entourage. If Vinny Chase

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Speaker 3: There's always the move though. Dan's gonna be right here.

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Speaker 3: He's just getting ready.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, Well let me know when he gets here.

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Speaker 8: It under his name. We need to need his ID

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Speaker 1: Right, Paul's schemes will join us unanimous Cy Young Award.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the bottom of those rumors slash reports

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Speaker 1: that maybe he once out of Pittsburgh. We'll come back

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Speaker 1: Earlier this year, we surprised Paul Skeens with the Tory Lavello,

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Speaker 2: So where is the cy Young?

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Speaker 15: I haven't gotten it yet. Yeah, I think we get

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Speaker 15: It'll be on the probably on the wall right behind me,

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Speaker 15: Winning the cy Young is one thing, going unanimous is another.

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Speaker 1: Seems like your girlfriend was more excited for you, Livy

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Speaker 1: Now, as far as like full time d H you have,

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Speaker 1: you have to look at Otani and is there any

442
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,479
Speaker 1: part of you that says I could do maybe a

443
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: portion of that. I could be a hitter and I

444
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 1: could be a pitcher.

445
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 7: I mean the portion I could do is stand in

446
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 7: the box. I couldn't.

447
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: Thinking humble. If I look at what you did when

448
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: you were in college, you could hit.

449
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was also. I mean the Mountain West is great.

450
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 15: Like the Mountain West, and I mean even the SEC

451
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 15: and then obviously the big leagues. They're very different things.

452
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 15: So I'm good. I'm good with what I'm doing right now.

453
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 15: I haven't picked up that in two years.

454
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

455
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: But if your manager says, hey, why don't you go

456
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: up there and pinship?

457
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,719
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I'm strapping it on like leats, batting gloves,

458
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 15: elbow guards everything.

459
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: Can you be the backup catcher, like in an emergency situation?

460
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 2: Could you catch?

461
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 7: Yeah? I really believe that.

462
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 15: I mean because we play catch every day with pitchers,

463
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 15: so we're used to their stuff and you know, and

464
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 15: catching it. It's just they they I don't think they

465
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 15: would ever put me back there.

466
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: Give me somebody that you'd like to catch, not on

467
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: your staff, any pitcher, because catcher was your first position.

468
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 7: I mean, I roll this chatman.

469
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 15: I mean he was on my team my rookie year,

470
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 15: and he would do some some cool stuff like, you know,

471
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 15: throw a heater ninety one and then throw it one

472
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 15: oh four on the next pitch then didn't really know why,

473
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 15: and it was like a you know, a surprise every

474
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 15: pitch for the catcher would be fun.

475
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: What's your highest recorded pitch, your fastest pitch?

476
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 7: I think one oh two?

477
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: Do you care?

478
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: Like if if I'm assessing how you're pitching, do I

479
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: does the radar gun matter?

480
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 7: It does to me?

481
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 15: In uh, basically like how close I am to my

482
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 15: max and the minimum? Like I want the average to

483
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 15: be as close to those as possible. So like sitting

484
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 15: one hundred it for me is better than hitting one

485
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 15: or two, but sitting ninety seven, If that makes sense?

486
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 1: What pitch are you going to add in the off season?

487
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 15: I have no idea yet. I barely started throwing right now,

488
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 15: so we'll see. Once I get on the mound and everything.

489
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 15: I might start playing a houts and stuff. But no

490
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 15: no plans for anything yet.

491
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: But you have to have an idea of somebody telling

492
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: you something or you're seeing something that you know. Can

493
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: you work that into your arsenal?

494
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think a lot of it so far has been,

495
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 15: you know, like, hey, you should throw your your fastball

496
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 15: here instead of here, you should throw it more in

497
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 15: instead of away, that kind of thing, rather than like

498
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 15: actually designing and engineering new pitches.

499
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 7: Just because it's just so early.

500
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Speaker 11: I don't.

501
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 15: I'm really just you know, working to get my body

502
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 15: back to to you know, in season four right now,

503
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 15: and then we can worry about the pitch shapes.

504
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: Later, talking to Paul's Skeins, the unanimous Cy Young Winner,

505
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you got to fly fighter jets

506
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: when you were in the Air Force? Can you can

507
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: you even fit in the cockpit as big as you are?

508
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 6: Yeah?

509
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 7: I can barely fit.

510
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 15: You put the helmet on me and you know, I'm

511
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 15: wearing boots and all that, the g suit, it's it's

512
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 15: gonna be tight. But yeah, I went in I went

513
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 15: into the Air Force Academy about three inches shorter than

514
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 15: I am right now. So my you know, plans changed

515
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 15: a little bit as time went on there.

516
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: Well, when you watch Top Gun, do your teammates say, hey,

517
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: is that what it was like for you in the

518
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: Air Force?

519
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty common.

520
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 15: I mean they're not they're not playing danger Zone when

521
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 15: I walk into the room or anything like that.

522
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: They wouldn't.

523
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: They wouldn't do that to you, would they They would

524
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: never do that to me.

525
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: Do you want to go.

526
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: Back and uh, like, is there any part of you

527
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: that is not finished with the Air Force?

528
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's funny because the more I've been out of there, it's,

529
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 15: you know, right when you leave, you're so happy to

530
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 15: be gone, just because it's so hard and so demanding.

531
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 7: And the longer I've.

532
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 15: Been, you know, away from there and away from those people,

533
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 15: it's like, dang, I miss it. So I don't know

534
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 15: about I mean, when I when I did my paperwork

535
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 15: to leave, there was like a clause in there that like,

536
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 15: I could come back and finish my degree as long

537
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 15: as I finish it before I'm twenty seven. So I

538
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 15: would have to do that in the next couple of years.

539
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 15: So in terms of going back and being a cadet,

540
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 15: that's that's not going to happen.

541
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 7: But they do have a.

542
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 15: Baseball team they need coaches occasionally, so that's something I

543
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 15: would be very excited to do. Living in Colorado, spring

544
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 15: sounds nice.

545
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: You don't get used to losing, but you lose a lot.

546
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: Where you go from winning a national championship, now you

547
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: know you're losing one hundred games. How does that affect

548
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: you or how do you try not to let that

549
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: affect you?

550
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's tough.

551
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 15: It's a you know, a huge adjustment because you know,

552
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 15: all I've done. The Air Force is the winningest organization

553
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 15: in the world, and then I go to l s

554
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 15: U and I win a national championship, and then obviously

555
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 15: I haven't had two great years team wise in Pittsburgh.

556
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 7: So it's been an adjustment.

557
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 15: It's you know, it's tough to not show up to

558
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 15: the field every day and be better sometimes, especially when

559
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 15: it's you know, we're on a seven eight game skid.

560
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 15: I think it, you know, I think it just comes

561
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 15: down to being a professional. I've learned more and more

562
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 15: how to do that and just be the you know,

563
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 15: be the same person every day. I'm still learning how

564
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 15: to do that. So but yeah, it's I mean, it

565
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 15: is energizing to to think about what it could be

566
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 15: if and if and when we do win. So that's

567
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 15: the that's the thing that gets me out of bed.

568
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: But that's how you get these stories that come out,

569
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: because know, can you put up with this with your talent?

570
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 1: And that's how that report comes out that if it

571
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: was a true report or a rumor. But how do

572
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: you deal with that that an anonymous player says that

573
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: you hope to be traded to the Yankees?

574
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, I was frustrated for a couple hours

575
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 15: and then and then you know, kind of got over

576
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 15: it and talked to the media later that night. You know,

577
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 15: it is what it is. There's stuff that's going to

578
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 15: come out, you know, good and bad. It's you know,

579
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 15: obviously it's it's not true. I think the hardest part

580
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 15: of leading air Force for me was, you know, we

581
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 15: had just won a conference championship, the first one in

582
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 15: the school's history, and you know, didn't and if we

583
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 15: built that and it felt like there was unfinished you know,

584
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 15: work that needed to be done. So that's how it

585
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 15: feels right now. We're you know, I won the we

586
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 15: won the national championship or the conference championship at air Force.

587
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 7: That's that's what is on the horizon for us. We

588
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 7: just have to do it.

589
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 15: And leaving before that would you know, leave a bad

590
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 15: taste in my mouth because there wasn't you know, there

591
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 15: was work to be done that we didn't do.

592
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this has happened because there's no

593
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: salary cap and we look at smaller markets good place.

594
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, Garrett Cole when he was with the Pirates,

595
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: it's like, how long can these smaller market teams keep players.

596
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: So you're just the latest.

597
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: There'll be somebody that comes after you, and you know

598
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: they'll be doing the same thing.

599
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I'm not the first person, not the

600
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 15: first person. That's that's you know, been through this, done this,

601
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 15: and I'm not I'm not the last, you know. It's

602
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 15: just it all comes down to how you look at it, right,

603
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 15: Like you can you can just be better at the

604
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 15: world and pissed off, or you can you know, fight

605
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 15: to to do what's right, make it right, you know,

606
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 15: when those are kind of the the two paths, because

607
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 15: you cannot, like the bar only moves one way, it

608
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 15: only goes up, and for you know, that's the goal. Basically,

609
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 15: it very easily could go down if you let it

610
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 15: go down. So you just got to keep fighting to

611
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 15: raise the bar, you know, for us in Pittsburgh.

612
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 7: But for the next player wherever wherever that is.

613
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: Do you have to make the bed? Does your girlfriend

614
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: make you make the bed?

615
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 7: Still got to make the bed.

616
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 15: That's something that you can't really uh, you can't get

617
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 15: that out of you once you've I probably made a

618
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 15: thousand beds while I was at Air Force, and uh,

619
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 15: actually more than that, probably a thousand only in basic training,

620
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 15: So it's it's habits that are built inside you.

621
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: But is the bouncing the quarter is that true?

622
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 8: They don't.

623
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 15: They don't do that anymore. It's not when I was there,

624
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 15: they might they might have brought that back.

625
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 7: Uh. It's funny.

626
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 15: You'll get people that you know, don't want to make

627
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 15: their bed every morning, and so they like duct tape

628
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 15: it underneath so it's all tight like uh, because we

629
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 15: got a shirt stays there to make sure your your

630
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 15: shirt stays tucked in, and so they'll use those and

631
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 15: tie it from one side to the other. So you'll

632
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 15: learn those tricks from from being in it a little bit.

633
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 15: But anyway, No, I don't.

634
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 7: I don't think the quarter thing is is true anymore.

635
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: Most famous person you've met.

636
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 15: Probably right now, I mean Shane Gillis. He's the biggest

637
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 15: person in the world.

638
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 7: I don't know. It depends, you know, it depends what

639
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 7: circle you're talking.

640
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 6: Uh you.

641
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Shane Gillis is a good guy. We we we met

642
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 1: him in Dublin and he was doing his stand up

643
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: over there and.

644
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's it's refreshing to talk to him. He's he's

645
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 15: down to earth, great dude. Obviously, you know, hilarious. Everything

646
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 15: he does is you know, must watch TV. So it

647
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 15: was it was cool to meet him. Just you know,

648
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 15: I'm a I'm a comedy fan. I was looking forward

649
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 15: to meeting him, and I was not disappointed. It was

650
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 15: it was pretty cool.

651
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Then he go to Army, Yeah he did briefly, right.

652
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's a See when I got to LSU, the

653
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 15: running joke was that I thought about serving for two years.

654
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 15: He thought about serving for a little bit shorter than that.

655
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 15: But we are both My air Force coach calls me

656
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 15: to quitter, so we're both quitting.

657
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: Congrats, enjoy the off season, and thanks again for joining us.

658
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

659
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Yep, Paul skeins, he is unanimous. Did you see his

660
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: girlfriend was in the background walking by.

661
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: A couple of times.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see that, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: Now I was going to say, hey, why don't you

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Speaker 1: get your girlfriend tome up here and join us, but

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Speaker 1: she was going back and forth a couple of times.

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Speaker 8: Yes, no yankee questions. They're just going to shut that

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Speaker 8: out in the matter.

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Speaker 1: All right, we asked the question. We got it out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he handled it, okay, Yeah, Pauli.

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Speaker 3: It really is a tough situation for him as well.

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Speaker 3: Like you'd love to be loyal to the Pirates and

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Speaker 3: build something there, but you're also saying, I may sign

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Speaker 3: up for a career that doesn't get me deep in

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Speaker 3: the postseason. Ever, Like Tony Gwinn generations ago, loyalty can.

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Speaker 3: It's impressive and it's respectable, but I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it's the right move.

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Speaker 1: I remember when Kevin Garnett was criticized because he didn't

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Speaker 1: want to leave Minnesota to go win a championship and

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Speaker 1: that he was loyal. Like, I think we got our

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Speaker 1: compasses pointing the wrong direction here, Like we should give

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Speaker 1: credit to somebody who is loyal. Is he going to

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Speaker 1: win a championship in Minnesota? No? I think they went

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Speaker 1: to the Western Conference finals one year, but then he

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Speaker 1: went to Boston end up, you know, winning a championship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulie, he wins a cy Young by going ten

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Speaker 3: to ten with a one point nine to seven ERA.

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Speaker 3: I did some research on it. If he had the

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Speaker 3: average run support of like the top twenty pitchers in

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Speaker 3: the National League last year, he probably would have been

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Speaker 3: twenty four and five. Yeah, twenty four and five in

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Speaker 3: this day and age twenty four wins is like, it's

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Speaker 3: like forty all right.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we have our super Bowl picks.

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Speaker 1: But if I give everybody a mulligan, who would you

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Speaker 1: pick to win the Super Bowl? We'll have that for you.

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Speaker 1: It's called stick or pick. Gotta have every segment has

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Speaker 1: to have a name. Stick with your original pick or

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Speaker 1: pick somebody different.

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Speaker 2: Take a break back after this.

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Speaker 1: It's a segment we like to call stick or pick.

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Speaker 1: Stick with your original Super Bowl picks from early September,

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Speaker 1: or pick another matchup, Todd. I'll start with you. You

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Speaker 1: pick the Ravens over the Lions. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: stick or pick?

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Speaker 8: I am not sticking with either of those predictions. I

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Speaker 8: Am now going with Rams over Bills. Getting rid of

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Speaker 8: both of the teams that I had.

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Speaker 1: All right, Marvin, you had the Lions beating the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to stick or pick? I'm gonna pick.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the Bengals. They seem like they're in trouble. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pick the Lions over the Bills.

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Speaker 2: It's over the Bills. Paul, you had the Lions over

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Speaker 2: the Bills. Are you going to stick or pick?

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Speaker 3: Both are a little shakier than I like. I'm gonna stick.

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Speaker 3: I am absolutely sticking on this Lions over Bills.

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Speaker 1: I picked the Lions to beat the Chiefs. Am I

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Speaker 1: gonna stick or pick? I'm gonna stick. I get a stick. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick.

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Speaker 4: There's more upside to sticking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't want to go.

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Speaker 1: Let me go rams in Buffalo and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, the Lions and the Chiefs get to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: So that's my original prediction. I'll stay with that one.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Seaton, who is in Vegas, he has

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Speaker 1: Ravens over the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Polly, the Ravens are back in the mix, but

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Speaker 3: do they feel threatening? You could be in contention for

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Speaker 3: a playoff spot and a threatening team, but sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: not both. I don't That pause tells me.

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Speaker 2: I just don't get a good handle on them.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's such an uphill climb that, you know, you

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Speaker 1: start out with a couple of wins and just to

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Speaker 1: get back up over five hundred, that takes a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know, they won four in a row, like you

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Speaker 1: you got to play It's almost like you're playing playoff

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Speaker 1: football for about two months, and that's really really hard

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Speaker 1: to sustain.

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Speaker 12: Yes, but you've seen that. On the opposite end were

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Speaker 12: teams like the Giants with Eli Manning. They were playing

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Speaker 12: playoff like games to get into the playoffs, so they

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Speaker 12: were already used to that winner, go home pressure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but to try to do it for two months

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Speaker 1: is really difficult. And I think the Giants, whether they

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Speaker 1: were they nine and six that year nine and I

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Speaker 1: think nine and seven and then they went to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think both those times they went to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, didn't they have just nine wins?

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Speaker 12: You know they were wildcard teams. I'm not sure, Yeah

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Speaker 12: the record, yeah, yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were nine and seven in twenty eleven and

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Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl with a wild card. They were

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Speaker 3: ten and six in two thousand and seven and won

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, but they slid in on the last

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Speaker 3: two games of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: We see this a lot of times where team has

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Speaker 1: a first round by and then they're facing a team

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Speaker 1: that's been scratching a clawing to try to get into

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Speaker 1: the postseason and they're already on their game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, it's.

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Speaker 3: So wild that Eli Manning's Hall of Fame campaign, which

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Speaker 3: he's going to get in, is based off two times

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Speaker 3: where you slid into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wild.

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Speaker 1: I saw this with our friend Cam Newton. I think

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Speaker 1: he might have been on either his podcast or First Take,

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Speaker 1: and he was saying that Kevin Stefanski the Browns, you know,

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Speaker 1: basically is sabotaging should or Sanders, doesn't want him to

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Speaker 1: be able to succeed, and you know, I guess to

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Speaker 1: not give him first team reps. I mean, there's it's

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Speaker 1: really mind blowing the number of people who are bothered

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Speaker 1: by this that should Or Sanders somehow is not getting

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Speaker 1: a chance. Now, when Chase Daniel was a career backup,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Josh McCown, these are career backups. They

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Speaker 1: said you know, recently we didn't get first team reps.

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Speaker 1: The backup doesn't get first team reps? Like, why are

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Speaker 1: we giving preferential treatment to Shador Sanders. I mean, Dylan

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Speaker 1: Gabriel needs every one of those reps to be ready.

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Speaker 1: Now you can say, what, well, Dylan Gabriel gets hurt. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do the Rams do this with Matthew Stafford?

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Speaker 2: Do they?

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. I'm assuming they do not.

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Speaker 1: Go you know, if matt gets hurt, we better have

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Speaker 1: our backup getting some first team reps. You know, was

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills getting first team reps when CJ. Stroud was

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Speaker 1: still playing for the Texans. I'm gonna guess he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Did anybody ask that question? Did anybody say Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: didn't get a fair shake because he didn't get first

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Speaker 1: team reps? The media has to be carried like did

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph? Is he getting first team reps just in

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Speaker 1: case Aaron Rodgers breaks his wrist?

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Speaker 2: I mean, just be fair to the position.

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Speaker 1: And guys, you your career backups are saying this, and look,

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Speaker 1: Cam can have his opinion, but you're trying to tell me.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski wants to tank this season, he's already on

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Speaker 1: the hot seat. He's trying to save his job. You

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Speaker 1: would think he would put the best player in there,

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Speaker 1: and if it's Shaud or Sanders, put him in.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 1: Do I think it's fair to assess that performance against

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. No, because they were coming after him and

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Speaker 1: they were hitting him on every play. But you know,

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Speaker 1: these members of the media who are carrying water for

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Speaker 1: Dion and Shador, you're going to put him in a

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Speaker 1: position like Tim Tebow. Nobody's gonna want to have him

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Speaker 1: on the roster because of all of this drama that

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Speaker 1: goes along with him, even as a backup quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: don't want that. If he can, great, but I don't

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Speaker 1: want Shandor Sanders if he's going to be a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Because Kevin Stefanski hears these questions every single day because

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Speaker 1: everybody is like, hey, put Shador in. Hey he didn't

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Speaker 1: get first team reps. Like, yeah, we know that, you

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Speaker 1: don't get first team reps. There's only so many reps

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Speaker 1: in practice. Tim hassel Beck, career backup here with us

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Speaker 1: yesterday said the same thing, you don't get first team reps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, PAULI Peyton Manning talked about this the other day

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Speaker 3: about first team reps, and his former coach and offensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator Tom Moore talked about is they gave Peyton Manning

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Speaker 3: every first team rep unless Peyton wanted to get a

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Speaker 3: step of water or something, because they would never plan

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Speaker 3: on the backup being in and the star quarterbacks never

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Speaker 3: want to give up a first team rep, and it's

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Speaker 3: up to the quarterback as much as it is to

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Speaker 3: the team. But they said it's never happens that way.

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Speaker 3: Second string is don't get them.

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Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that people are viewing this. Michael wilbon

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Speaker 1: on pardon the interruption, talking about Shudor didn' get in

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Speaker 1: first team reps. Okay, you're creating this story because Shadoor

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Speaker 1: Sanders gets clicks, Dion gets clicks.

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Speaker 2: Like that's it, and I just go.

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Speaker 1: Be fair to the story, Be fair to the coach,

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Speaker 1: be fair to the starting quarterback, be fair to the

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Speaker 1: role of.

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Speaker 2: The backup quarterback. That's all.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Pulling.

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Speaker 3: Also, Dylan Gabriel this year has not been spectacular, but

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Speaker 3: in six starts he's a sixty percent passer with seven

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Speaker 3: touchdowns and only two picks. That's not great, but it

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Speaker 3: sure isn't awful.

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Speaker 4: It's not awful. Yeah, No one's talking about him playing decently.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to.

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Speaker 1: I hope Schador gets a chance to play, all right,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping just so that can answer some questions.

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Speaker 8: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Give him a chance.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if he can actually play the position. It's man,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people. It ruins their day

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Speaker 1: when he doesn't