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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're bowing

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Speaker 1: down to Asia Wilson once again doing something no one's

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Speaker 1: ever done, first WNBA player with a thirty point twenty

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Speaker 1: rebound game magic. It's Tuesday, August twelfth, and on today's show,

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking to niph Charles of Chelsea and the

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Speaker 1: England national team. We chat with her about the Lionesses

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Speaker 1: winning Euros last month, how happy she is to have

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Speaker 1: Naomi Germa on her club team, whyatt took her a

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Speaker 1: minute to warm up to playing soccer, and why cardboard

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Speaker 1: cutout Neve might be having even more fun than the

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Speaker 1: real version. Plus rebounding with a tumble, taking revenge on Canadians,

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Speaker 1: and a WNBA scheduling conundrum that has us asking why

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Speaker 1: it's all coming up Right after this welcome back slices,

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Speaker 1: here's what you need to know today. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: gymnastics and the US Gymnastics Championships in New Orleans. Louisi

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Speaker 1: Hesley Rivera won the all around title, finishing eight tenths

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Speaker 1: of a point ahead of two time Olympic alternate Leanne Wong,

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Speaker 1: who plays second Rivera, who won team gold at last

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Speaker 1: summer's Paris Olympics. Was the only member of that US

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Speaker 1: Olympic team to compete at Nationals this year. With the win,

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Speaker 1: the seventeen year old becomes the youngest US all around

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Speaker 1: champion since Reagan Smith won in twenty seventeen. Rivera also

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Speaker 1: won apparatus titles on balance beam, floor, and uneven bars.

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Speaker 1: While the US team for October's World Championships won't be

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Speaker 1: and healthy between now and the team selection event. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of healthy, other highlights from the Gymnastics Championships include Sky Blakely,

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Speaker 1: who was competing in her first elite meet in fourteen months,

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Speaker 1: on balance beam. You remember, Blakely was initially considered a

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Speaker 1: favorite to make last year's Olympic team, but tore her

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Speaker 1: spending the last year plus rehabbing the injury. To lacrosse.

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Speaker 1: Team USA won gold at the World Games in China

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Speaker 1: championship game. It marked a bit of revenge for the

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Speaker 1: Canada in the gold medal game of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two World Games three years ago. This competition featured a

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Speaker 1: six's format that's the same format that'll be used when

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Speaker 1: lacrosse makes its Olympic debut at the twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 1: LA Games. All told, the US outscored its opponents one

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Speaker 1: with captain Marie McCool leading the way with twenty total

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Speaker 1: goals to hoops. There are two WNBA games tonight. First up,

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Wings traveled to the Indiana Fever for a

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Speaker 1: seven to thirty start. Wings are coming off a ninety

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Speaker 1: one seventy eight loss to the Washington Mystics on Sunday

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Speaker 1: that saw Rookie of the Year candidates Kiki eria Fen,

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Speaker 1: Sonya Citron, and Paige Beckers all doing work at the

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Speaker 1: same time. Erie Fens scored a career high twenty three

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Speaker 1: double digits to start a career that's tied for fourth

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Speaker 1: place in WNBA history with Ruthy Bolton. These rookies continue

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Speaker 1: to impress. Then, at ten PM tonight, the Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: a thrilling ninety four to ninety one win over the

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Speaker 1: play with five point six seconds left. Sparks have now

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Speaker 1: won nine of their last eleven games. As for the Liberty,

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Speaker 1: you might recall it in Monday Show we told you

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Speaker 1: against the Las Vegas Aces. So what's the deal with

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Speaker 1: the Liberty and Links taking so long to play their

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Speaker 1: link to a great story by the athletic Sabrina Merchant

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Speaker 1: that helps try to tease apart this whole scheduling debacle.

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Speaker 1: want to start with the basics for our listeners who

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Speaker 1: maybe aren't familiar with the leagues across the Pond. So

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Speaker 1: you're a Champions League runner up, move's in the Champions League.

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Speaker 2: So the Champions League is a selection of all the

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Speaker 1: And then you're a four time FA Cup winner. What

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Speaker 2: The FA Cup is like it's so traditional in the

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Speaker 1: You've got this incredible run with Team England. We saw

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Speaker 2: Like the game we played against Wales, which is a

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Speaker 2: I think that's the spirit we have in the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you came on late in the final and major PK.

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Speaker 2: And I think we'd really prepared for that moment as

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Speaker 2: And I think that helped me to take the emotion

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Speaker 1: I hear that so much from elite athletes now, and

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Speaker 1: I look back at my collegiate career and think, like

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Speaker 1: of it as like, it's just the same thing you

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Speaker 2: That was such a full circle moment for me because

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Speaker 2: it was really special for me and my family, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's so cool. Was the grant based on

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Speaker 2: Chelsea game, which is amazing, sort of that crosspond from America,

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00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 2: and I think it's exciting that players are sort of

437
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 2: crossing over and sort of sharing that investment and hopefully

438
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: that will increase the revenue in America and in England.

439
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk a little bit more about

440
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: that because I feel like in the States we look

441
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 1: over on your end and we're like, well, these teams

442
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: get to be bullied by Premier League men's teams that

443
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: have billions of dollars, right, so they have this incredible funding,

444
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good resources and things that stem from that.

445
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 1: But we also hear that here in the US because

446
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 1: of Title nine and because of the success of the

447
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: US women's national team that the NWSL is ahead in

448
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of ways in comparison. Where are the big differences.

449
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: Where do you think that you're ahead and where do

450
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 1: you think that maybe you're still behind.

451
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 2: Having not experienced both, I would say the NWSL out

452
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 2: is probably amazing that there're a lot of them are

453
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 2: standalone teams sort of that can create their own sort

454
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 2: of story, their own history. But then I think there's

455
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 2: something really special about the UK game where you can

456
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: grow up and in the past you've just supported a

457
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: men's team, but now there's very much a men's and

458
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: a women's team, So for boys and girls, they can

459
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: sort of look up and see people that they can

460
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 2: relate to, they can be them, And I think there's

461
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 2: strengths and weaknesses in both. But I think what I'm

462
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 2: really passionate about is making the women's game amazing on

463
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 2: its own, that we have shown that we can attract

464
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: the investment and the revenue, that it can become a

465
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: powerhouse in its own right. And I think in America

466
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: you're probably seeing that with the attraction of the NWSL

467
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: and how much investment's going on, which is also translating

468
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: over here. Hopefully off the back of the ears as well,

469
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: that's only going to increase, which will contribute to better

470
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: training facilities, better everything for the athletes. So at the

471
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: same time as the investment, we can create a better

472
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: product on the pitch. So hopefully year on year was

473
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: sort of increasing at the same rate, whether it's the

474
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Speaker 2: US or the UK.

475
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to admit, I'm just like a women's

476
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: footy fan, and so I really got into the US

477
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: women's national team and the NWSL. I'm nadas into the

478
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: teams across the pand so most of my view of

479
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: what's going on over there is ted Lasso and Wreckham,

480
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: which is like the most stereotypical, basic bit American view.

481
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: And of course the American players that I see go

482
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: across the teams like Chelsea, and I kind of follow

483
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: along with what they're doing. Do you feel like the

484
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: Americans who are getting into Premier League or maybe are

485
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: more invested in watching the Euros women's team because of

486
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: the team swaps the players that are coming over are

487
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of simple in their view and understanding of football.

488
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Or are we getting better over here?

489
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 2: I've actually, funny enough, just started watching Ted last. So

490
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm only on the first season, which I haven't done

491
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 2: for life. But it's film where I live, so's it's

492
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: crazy way Yeah, so I've been to the pub where

493
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: it's all filmed and.

494
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: Everything where you grew up or where you live now.

495
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: Where I live now, sorry, it's really near to.

496
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: So fun yeah, so cute little places.

497
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: It's such a quintessential English British pub book. And to

498
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: sort of see the American like crossover again, it's really

499
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: really funny. But I think what I love about the

500
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: Americans is it's almost like you're just raised to win,

501
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: your ways, to compete, your complete athletes, complete winners, and

502
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: I think think like we can learn off them, they

503
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: can probably learn off us. And I think the combination

504
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: of both is it's really really special and American sport

505
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: is massive, So I think if we can take that

506
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: and sort of apply that mindset in certain instances in

507
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: the UK and the women's game, then it can be

508
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: really really exciting.

509
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: I can only imagine the folks wandering around your town

510
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: looking for the different spots that they've seen on the show.

511
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: It's probably both fun and annoying at times. You made

512
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: your debut for the Lioness's the England national team in

513
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Who did you invite to that very

514
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: first match and what were the nerves?

515
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: Like, well, it's crazy you asked that because it was

516
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: in COVID, So I invited absolutely no one, no. Yeah,

517
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: So it was a really weird way to make my debut,

518
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: but I like to splip it as like I made

519
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: it with the girls. It was so special. But I

520
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: also made it in a stadium really near to where

521
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: my uncle, who was like a massive football inspiration for me,

522
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: he lives, so it's kind of like it was going

523
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: to be anywhere. I could almost feel that they were

524
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: there with me. But it was also nice because then

525
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: when they first got seen you play for England, it

526
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: was like the second debut.

527
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: A little bit and maybe a little fewer nerves the

528
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: second time. So yeah, for sure excited about everyone being

529
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: there for you. Speaking of nerds, you're a big advocate

530
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: for mental health and you've said it's really important to

531
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: think about it every day, just like we think about

532
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: our physical training or our technical training. Was that a

533
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: gradual journey for you to understand that or have you

534
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 1: always had to make that a big part of your

535
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: game in your life.

536
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: It has been a gradual journey, probably because I don't

537
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: think it's maybe spoken about as much from when you're

538
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: younger as it is physical. So when I was coming

539
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: through the academy, I really remember moments where I was

540
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: fully focused on my physical strength, conditioning football. So I

541
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: was used to thinking like that, and I think it's

542
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: only now that I start to think of the mental side,

543
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: whereas I wish when I was younger it was spoken

544
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: about in as much value as the physical part was

545
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: and it became normal. So my hope is now that

546
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: young girls that are coming through they are it is

547
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: equal weighted and look to say, look, your physical side

548
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: of the game contributes massively, but also your mental side doesn't.

549
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: For me, it makes such a difference to my game.

550
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: But not only that, no matter what I'm doing, whether

551
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: it's sports, whether it's a job, or just in my life,

552
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: my mental health and for everyone, I think is something

553
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: you take care of.

554
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always talking about this book The Body Keeps

555
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: the Score that I think is like this life changing

556
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: understanding of how our heads and our intellects are not

557
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: a separate body from the rest of us, but we

558
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: kind of consider them as such, and then understanding the

559
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: ways that what's going on in our brain and our

560
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: feelings and our anxiety might actually be gucking up the

561
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: rest of our body functioning as well as it could.

562
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: So that does deeply impact your play physically and your

563
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: health physically, and a lot of people don't really make

564
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: that connection. I remember being a young athlete, we would

565
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: sort of have those conversations like PMA positive mental attitude

566
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: or like visualize the race. Like we sort of talked

567
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: about it in ways that were very clearly about mental

568
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: health and sport, but we didn't name it. And I

569
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: think now being able to name it has allowed people

570
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: to access it a lot more and to ask for

571
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: what they need. I know Nami Germa is part of this.

572
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: Create the space. Is that something that y'all have worked

573
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: together on or talk about how you want to be

574
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: leaders about.

575
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting because when she came over, obviously

576
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm also part of that created the space from the

577
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: UK side, join common goal, but when we sort of

578
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: came together, it was really really nice that sort of

579
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: separately we're passionate about this and we have our own

580
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: stories and reasons and motivations for it and then we

581
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: came together and share a lot of similarities and sort

582
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: of understanding about how important it is as a person

583
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: and as an elite athlete. And I think we've definitely

584
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: spoken about it and how yeah, like you say, it

585
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: can make a massive difference. I know you just think, oh,

586
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: it's just in my head, but it does connect to

587
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: your body, and a lot of the time your body

588
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: sort of shows you how you're feeling. And I think

589
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: we're both very aware of that and hopefully can normalize

590
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: and increase that conversation and help a lot of people

591
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 2: through that.

592
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: So I was trolling your social media and I have

593
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: two important questions for you. Number One, your family celebrated

594
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: your twenty first birthday with a cardboard cut out of

595
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: you and not you. Everybody from your family together in

596
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: a house partying without you the birthday. Girl. Can you

597
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: please explain this.

598
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know whether to be so proud

599
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: of my family that they still do that or so insulted,

600
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's actually happened a few times. There was

601
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: a lot of pictures on my family group chat today

602
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: and I went through and I thought, all these family

603
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: events and there's so many that I'm not in but yeah,

604
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: for my twenty first that was a particular one. My

605
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: family liked to celebrate birthdays all together. We all go

606
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: away fine this house and sort of spend the weekend

607
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: together and fin obviously it was planned and when I

608
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: couldn't go, I would love to go back and think

609
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: how long did they think about should we cancel it?

610
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: Should we not? But I don't think they did. They thought, well,

611
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: perfect solution, will all just go And they didn't take

612
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: just one. I actually later found out it was five

613
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: carboard cutouts, some of me as are put like in

614
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: a nice dress, some of me and a football kit,

615
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: and they just they all say to me, they think

616
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: it's great. We had the best time with your carboy cutouts,

617
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: Like it was better than if you were there, Like

618
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: it was just made the weekend. So yeah, they had

619
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: a great time.

620
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: Why here I assume I assume fo you got in

621
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: the way.

622
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what particularly, but it was definitely football.

623
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: It's always that's the one of the biggest sacrifices you make.

624
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: And yeah, we all know is how performance athletes. It's

625
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: just it is a massive, massive sacrifice and it's just

626
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: become normal to be honest.

627
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, at least one of those cardboard cutouts should

628
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: have been saved and brought to all these other events

629
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: that you also kept.

630
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: Make no, it actually has been. And so my grandma's

631
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: ninetieth birthday, they all obviously everyone was there apart from me,

632
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: so the cardboard cut got well out again. And it's

633
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: actually my parents like shoved behind my parents' wardrobe at home,

634
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: and like when I go in, it does like start

635
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: me every single time. There's just an arm and a

636
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: leg out the side of the wardrobe, which like they

637
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: obviously keep because again I'm going to miss something in

638
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: the future. Oh it can come back.

639
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: Like it, I like, and you're you're preserved at the

640
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: age of you know, twenty years old. Yeah, that's true

641
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: when they took the photos, so you know, especially if

642
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: they keep using in a family photo, was everyone will

643
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: be like that Neve she never ages, Yeah, that's so true.

644
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: She also never changes her position or style. How big

645
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: is your family when they all get together?

646
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: I think with plus ones now where and also kids

647
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: as well, were fifteen to twenty.

648
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: And it's wow, oh that's so fun.

649
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also at that age of the changing of

650
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: the guard from the parents to Loo right, the cousins,

651
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: and now we've got a new generation. So it's really

652
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: really fun and we have a great talent.

653
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Together, and you seem to be enjoying anti life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm actually going to see them this weekend. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait. And I could not wait for someone in

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Speaker 2: my family to have a little baby. And I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: anytime I get to see them, and I can understand

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Speaker 2: now why the first like grandchild or child in the

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Speaker 2: family is so spoiled. Oh yeah, I'm doing exactly that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and now I think, well, I wasn't the first one,

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Speaker 2: so like I didn't get that treatment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither. There's like the first five pages of

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Speaker 1: my baby book are filled out and then it kind

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Speaker 1: of trails off and has a whole lass thing of

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Speaker 1: everything she did every month. Am I it was a

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Speaker 1: big when I walked to mom. Yeah, okay. My other

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Speaker 1: follow up question about your socials is your teammate Maya

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Speaker 1: calls you Steve and you call her worm.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain One day we were at Saint George's

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Speaker 2: in prep for the Euros and yeah, I say Neve,

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Speaker 2: just say Leeve, but it's Neve, And Mayo went to

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Speaker 2: say ne but for some reason, she just goes Steve

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Speaker 2: and it just it just caught on, and like now

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Speaker 2: I really do respond to it, and the whole tournament.

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Speaker 2: You know when someone says that and you're like, they're

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Speaker 2: not going to carry that on. But two months later

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Speaker 2: was still Steve. And and then I was what can

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Speaker 2: I do to say to Mayo? And she'd done a

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Speaker 2: few questionable things.

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Speaker 1: Oh, like what give us an example?

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Speaker 2: I think she'd done a few things to me, Like

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Speaker 2: we were just before in training or something. We were

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Speaker 2: having a bit of a joke with Serena, and then

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Speaker 2: she just like flipped her thing and like left me,

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Speaker 2: hung me out to dry, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's a snaky thing, obviously. Just yeah, but obviously I

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Speaker 2: said to her, oh, you're a bit of snakes. That's

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Speaker 2: way too harsh. And it was too harsh. So she

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Speaker 2: became one for the for the less. Yeah, still has

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Speaker 2: some work to do, to be honest, but Steve's really stuck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for light hearted, light hearted snake moves, you get

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Speaker 1: worm instead. Yeah, all right, before I let you go,

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Speaker 1: you have to play our game. It's similar to start

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Speaker 1: bench cut, but we don't cut anything. It's good, gooder, gooddest. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you have to rank from good to goodest. Sam

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Speaker 1: Kerr's celebratory backflips, Chloe Kelly's signature leg kick skip before

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Speaker 1: a penalty, and Serena Wiegman's dance moves to burn a.

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Speaker 2: Boy that was iconic, that was really iconic. I would

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Speaker 2: say Chloe Kelly's kip is good classic, always delivers. Sam's

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Speaker 2: is gooder because the like that I associate with such

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Speaker 2: good feelings of like she's just on something incredible. But

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Speaker 2: I think Serena's moves a burn boy and her reaction

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00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: is just something iconic and like no one unexpected that

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Speaker 2: was going to happen. Yeah, so that's the goodness. Like

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Speaker 2: it's just it's just so mad.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, except that I used to get

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Speaker 1: the Sam Kurr backflips in my backyard when she was

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Speaker 1: on the Chicago Red Stars, and that was like such

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Speaker 1: a joy to me and I would just be always

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Speaker 1: sharing the clips and be like, guys, this is like

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Speaker 1: right here in Chicago, like we need to go see

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Speaker 1: this team more. It's Sam freaking cur doing backflips after

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Speaker 1: she scores. But the Burna Boys Serena connection that nobody

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Speaker 1: knew was standing.

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Speaker 2: It was incredible.

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Speaker 1: It was so great to talk to you. I fear

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Speaker 1: that I like you too much, and then now I'll

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Speaker 1: start wanting to watch you play, and I don't have time, Neave.

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Speaker 1: I don't have time to add a whole other league

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Speaker 1: to my to my sports watching, but I will be

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Speaker 1: tempted now, so you might have got me perfect.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, you know, the WSL is always there.

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Speaker 2: It's a great, great advertisement.

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Speaker 1: Fair but I will always still root for the US.

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Speaker 1: So thanks so much, Neve for taking the time. We

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Speaker 1: got to take another break. When we come back, we

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Speaker 1: redecorate in purple and pink. Welcome back slices. We love

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Speaker 1: that you're listening, but we want you to get in

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Speaker 1: the game every day too, So here's our good game

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Speaker 1: play of the day. Follow Neve on social media, maybe

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Speaker 1: even dip a toe in the WSL footy waters season

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Speaker 1: starts next month. Be careful, though, because you got to

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Speaker 1: make sure you have the time to fall in love

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Speaker 1: with a whole nother league of badass footballers. Not to mention,

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Speaker 1: you got to make sure you have your early Saturday

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Speaker 1: mornings free. Those games are like at six am, And

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Speaker 1: maybe just start by rooting for Neve. We'll link to

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Speaker 1: our instagram in the show notes to get you started.

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Speaker 1: Horton's rating ten out of ten brand turnaround from Barbie

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Speaker 1: the last few years. Turns out it's far cooler to

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Speaker 1: The PWHL recently announced it's teamed up with Mattel and

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Speaker 1: Tim Hortons to create two new Barbie dolls. The dolls

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Speaker 1: are inspired by PWHL players Sarah Nurse and friend of

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Speaker 1: jersey hockey stick helmet and skates, and five Canadian dollars

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Speaker 1: which provides funding for young female hockey players who have

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Speaker 1: the passion to play but face financial challenges. To celebrate

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Speaker 1: the launch of Tim Hortons in Toronto has been made

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