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Holds it now, 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: release slowly again, deep in haale hold release, repeating internally 19 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am 20 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: deeply well I am deeply Well. I am deeply Wow. 21 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast. 22 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on 23 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative, 24 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care. 25 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm Debbie Brown. This is where we heal, this is 26 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: where we come. Thank you for joining me for this 27 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: episode Welcome back. We are exploring the intersections of self discovery, healing, 28 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: and the many ways we can live with more presence 29 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: and intention. We've been exploring this in a few different 30 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: ways as a theme really for this season of the 31 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: show and beyond, because this space is about the journey, 32 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: the evolving practice of coming home to ourselves, deepening our 33 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: well of wisdom, and learning how to move through life 34 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: with more ease and alignment always. Today's conversation is one 35 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: that speaks directly to that evolution. How our voices, our purpose, 36 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: and our connection to the world shift over time. We're 37 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: diving into creativity, motherhood, healing, and the ever changing landscape 38 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: of fame, artistry and self expression in the digital age. 39 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: I am so excited to welcome today's guest, someone whose 40 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: voice has not only soundtracked pivotal moments for so many 41 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: of us, but also carries an undeniable energy of truth, depth, 42 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: and soul. Today's special guest is Melanie Fiona. Melanie was 43 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: raised in Toronto, Canada and now resides in La She 44 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: is a two time Grammy Award winner. She exudes soulful charm, wit, 45 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: and a remarkable talent for storytelling. Her distinctive and powerful 46 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: voice has captivated countless listeners. Her debut album, The Bridge 47 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: was hailed as one of the best R and B 48 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: albums by The New York Times, featuring the notable single 49 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: it Kills Me My Jam, which topped Billboard's R and 50 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: B hip Hop chart for nine weeks. Her second album, 51 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: The m F Life reached number one on the Billboard 52 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: Top R and B hip Hop Album charts, showcasing her 53 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: outstanding versatility as a singer songwriter. Often described as your 54 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: favorite artist, Favorite Artist, Melanie's collaborations have spanned genres, from 55 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: her Grammy winning work with Celo Green to songs with 56 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: John Legend, Common the Roots and reggae superstars Stephen Marley 57 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: and rap icon j Cole. Melanie Fiona's powerful live performances 58 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: have led to her tour with acclaimed artists like Kanye West, 59 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: Alicia Keys, Mary J. Blige, and DiAngelo. Passionate about the 60 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: healing power of music, she often refers to herself as 61 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: the singing nurse on stage, creating a unique blend of 62 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: live music and wellness at her shows and speaking engagements, 63 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: where she serves as a calming, energizing, and inspirational presence. 64 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: As a dedicated musician, mother, and creative entrepreneur, Melanie continues 65 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: to expand her influence, advocating for inspiration at the intersection 66 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: of music, motherhood, and wellness. She co hosts the popular 67 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: parenting podcast The Mama's Den and is actively growing her 68 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: motherhood and lifestyle brand, Mellie Belly. Excitingly, Melanie Fiona is 69 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: set to release her new EP, Say Yes, on April fourth, 70 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: and she is going on tour. Melanie, she is welcome 71 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 2: to show. 72 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Wow, that was a whole interest. 73 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: I love it. 74 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell my kids this is how we 75 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: wake up every day. Introduce me this way, kids. 76 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So I am so happy to have 77 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: you here. And we actually if you guys haven't caught 78 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: it yet, go back and Archives. We did an episode 79 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: during the pandemic, and I was thinking about that episode 80 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: so much, and I re listened this week, and I 81 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: remember both of us at that time like we were 82 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: just deeply understanding it was time to serve. And I 83 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: remember we were talking so much then, especially about your 84 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: vocal gift and about the healing power of music and 85 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: sound and just the depth and tenderness that really, like 86 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: the vibrations of a voice can create in another person. 87 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: So so much has happened since that episode. 88 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: So much. I had another child's whole nother life. We 89 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: survived a pandemic, you know. Re Emerging into this new 90 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: sense of self has been quite a journey for me, 91 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: emancipating myself creatively, professionally, spiritually, just being being free to 92 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: become what I am supposed to become in this life. 93 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: And it's been it's been beautiful. I'm so happy to 94 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: be back here with you because the conversations we get 95 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: to have I don't get to have with many and 96 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: so I'm so grateful to be in your space and 97 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: to be a part of this platform and to and 98 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: to share with you again because it's just so easy 99 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: to share with you. 100 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Wow. 101 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: So thank you so thanks, thank you. 102 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: You know, I'm so curious, Melanie, like, from the pandemic 103 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: to now, right it has been five I think here, 104 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't even know what day or time it is anymore, 105 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: what planet are we on? But you know, something that 106 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: was so strong about the way you were connecting with 107 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: the world and with your audience, like it was service. 108 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: And I remember we talked about you being the singing 109 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: nurse and really that kind of undercurrent of purpose transformation, 110 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: right like you've always been tapped in. You have always 111 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: known yourself as a healer, even when we didn't have 112 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: that language. And now in the last really those five 113 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: years of just like active healing in the world, but 114 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: then also growing and changing and integrating into the weight 115 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: of that role. Tell me how that experience has been 116 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: over the last five years. 117 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, five years. How long do we have today? 118 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's ongoing, It's really ongoing. I think, you know, 119 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: having a second child really brought me back deeper into 120 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: purpose and into self. I'm having a daughter really allowed 121 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: for me to see parts of myself that still needed 122 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: more work, still needed more healing. I have a three 123 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: year old. We were talking off camera about how spicy 124 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: she is. 125 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: She's so spicy. 126 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: I love her to death. She's just she's amazing. She's 127 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: everything I wish I could be in this life. She's fearless, 128 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: she's unapologetic, she's strong willed, she is certain of herself, 129 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: all the things that I want to be when I 130 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: grow up completely and seeing that. Really, I think having 131 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 3: having a child brought me back into the focus. I 132 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 3: think of the all encompassing work that I'm supposed to 133 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: do in this life, which brought me back to a 134 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: space of healing, in the motherhood space. And so even 135 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: before having her earthside, I felt like I was being 136 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: called through that. In the pandemic, we were isolated, we 137 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: were mothers, we were women. We were feeling like, what 138 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 3: is happening? You know, things that we didn't imagine could 139 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: happen were happening. And at that time I connected with 140 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: three other women, Cody, Felicia, and Ashley, and we decided 141 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: we wanted to start a conversation about motherhood and we 142 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: started a podcast called The Mama's Den. And we didn't 143 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: really know what was going to become of that. We 144 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: just knew we needed a space to kind of share 145 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: and speak and connect because we were like, are you 146 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: struggling because we've been in the house with these kids 147 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: and we don't know what's happening. Yeah, with life and 148 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: like what's going on? And so, you know, motherhood has 149 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: I think, become a deep anchor for me in purpose 150 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: and healing. And so we got together during the pandemic, 151 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: testing ourselves every Friday to make sure we were good 152 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: to record before. You know, it was really a wild time. 153 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: But in that time I ended up getting pregnant. And 154 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: I did not expect to get pregnant. I thought that 155 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 3: I was one child and done child and that was it. 156 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: And so here I found myself being called back into 157 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: this journey I didn't think I would experience again, but 158 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: this time feeling more supported, more connected, more present, more 159 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: present in what was happening. And so I feel like 160 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: the energy that I was surrounded by these women, by 161 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: these conversations really allowed spirit to bring this child into 162 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: my life and said you're gonna do this again. And 163 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: so in that regard it then became it brought me 164 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: back into like a deeper purpose of where I was like, Okay, 165 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: I have to start building what I want to create, 166 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: and I always bring this back to my voice. I 167 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: think for a long time in my career as music, 168 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: and you listed, it's interesting whenever I hear people read 169 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: my bio because I was like, oh, yeah, that did happen, 170 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: and that happened, and it feels like lifetimes ago and 171 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: like different versions of myself, you know. But the thing 172 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: that I always bring attention back to and knowing what 173 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: is my gifting and my purpose comes always back to 174 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 3: my voice and how can I use my voice in 175 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: different ways to bring healing, awareness, community, closeness, safety. And 176 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: so that's where in that time, music was kind of 177 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: this uncertain thing because nobody was performing. I had just 178 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: recently transitioned out of a situation that I was in 179 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: legally out of all of my old previous contracts and 180 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: was transitioning into an independent space. So then here comes 181 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: this child, and now I feel like my life is 182 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: being called to what do you want to do? What 183 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: do you want to do? Where are you going to go? 184 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: Because this feels like an act too of life for you, 185 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: you know, here comes this second child. You're getting a 186 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: chance to revisit music. Should you want to do that again? 187 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: Now from a different perspective, from a different place, how 188 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: do you want to use your voice? What do you 189 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: want to write about? What do you want to sing about? 190 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: How do you want to make people feel? And all 191 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: of these things involved examining who I once was and 192 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: then allowing myself to not feel necessarily beholden to meeting 193 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: or matching those expectations of who that version was, and 194 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: allowing myself to say, who do you want to become? 195 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: What do you want Act two to look like? And 196 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: so now two children, a husband, creative freedom and independence 197 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: to make music again. It was a journey of self 198 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: discovery again, balance what does that look like now? You know? Okay? 199 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: Not being afraid to say I'm multifaceted. I think previous 200 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: to motherhood I felt one. I felt like I could 201 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: only be one thing. I was only going to be 202 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: received for one thing. You didn't want to overwhelm people 203 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: with all of your gifts and the things that you 204 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: were capable of. It was, you know, you're a singer, sing, 205 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: you know. But I had so much more that I 206 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: wanted to do. I had so much more that I 207 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: wanted to show and share and showcase, and it just 208 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: I never I never gave myself permission to do that. 209 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: And so from the pandemic in the last five years. 210 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: That's what this has been. It's allowing myself permission to explore, 211 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: to expand, to rise, to fall, to try, to fail, 212 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: to try again, to not get it right, to trust more, 213 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: and to honor the spirit and the soul of who I. 214 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: Like you said, before I had the language, knew that 215 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: I think I always was, and to be happy doing it. Yeah, 216 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: and to be happy doing it it's a journey on. 217 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 218 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: Wow, I said a lot there. 219 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many directions I want to take 220 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: this out. Yeah. So one of the things that you 221 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,239 Speaker 2: said was that you know, you mentioned like the funness 222 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: of it and everything you just spoke to. I mean, 223 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: this is like like when you first hit the scene, 224 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: you were a young woman, right, still a girl in 225 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: so many ways, and now it's like you're a mother, 226 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: you're a healer, you are a wife, you are an 227 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: established woman in the world with so many life experiences. 228 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: So one of the things that I thought of when 229 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: I first started listening to the new music, I was like, God, 230 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: I wonder what her creative process was like. Because you're 231 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: meeting something you know that you're already an expert in 232 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: as a new person, How did that process feel for you? 233 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: And does the fun feel different? Like when you look 234 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: back at how you created earlier in your career and 235 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: how you're creating now, what feels different about the process, 236 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: what feels different about you about the end result. 237 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: So it's interesting because you brought up the word fun. 238 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: I want to have fun creating this music now, and 239 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: I did have a lot of fun creating this music now. 240 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: When I first started, it felt very high pressure. You know, 241 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: you're breaking into the music industry. You're trying to make 242 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: a name for yourself. You're trying to achieve some version 243 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: of success that has been planted on you that you 244 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: think you have to achieve. And you know there's a 245 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: bar that's been said and it's not successful if it 246 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: doesn't look or sound or feel or meet this XYZ. 247 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of strategy and formula, and 248 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, and you go to work with the person 249 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: that has the best song and the best that has 250 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: the hit right now because you want to get from 251 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: them too. 252 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: And you're like, what I'm hearing is like you have 253 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: to be connected to the zeitgeist. It has to be 254 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: about whatever has been established and is on trend. Yeah. Correct. 255 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: So this time it was about fun for me. It 256 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: was about creating with people that I feel wanted to 257 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: be there, that wanted to be involved, that reached out 258 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: and were like, hey, what do you need? How can 259 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: I help call me? I'm down like creating from a 260 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: place of fun and and just the space to be. 261 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be what I've already created. The 262 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: It Kills Me a song that changed my entire life 263 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: and Coregendar, I still sing this song. You're fifteen years later, 264 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: you know, so we still we're still got to this song. 265 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: They got me not there no more, but we stuck 266 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: right into it, you know. So it's like it's a 267 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: it's a very interesting thing to you know, for people 268 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: to put that on you, to feel like, well, it's 269 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: no it kills me. No, because we already did it 270 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: kills me. That's okay. I don't need to do another 271 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: kills me because I did it kills me. Now I'm 272 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: saying yes, now I'm making I choose you. Now, I'm 273 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: making songs that reflect where I am and the journey 274 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: of what healed and like healthy love looks like on 275 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: me and in this iteration and season in my life, 276 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: and so it's it's but also I'll say this, it 277 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: was also very challenging for me too because it had 278 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: been such a while since I had released something to 279 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: the public. And regardless of whatever we want to say 280 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: and think, it's I I if it was just for me, 281 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: I would play my own music in my room and 282 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't play it for anyone else. But I am 283 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: putting something out into the world, and I do want 284 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 3: it to reach people who like it, and I do 285 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: want people to like it, and I do want people 286 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: to feel what I'm feeling when I create it. And 287 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: so there was a bit of imposter syndrome for me 288 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: where I had almost forgotten the amount of hours and 289 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: years and days that I had put in when I 290 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: was in zeitgeis world that I just forgot is almost 291 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: a it was experiences muscle memory, you know, and because 292 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: I had been felt out of it for so long 293 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: between the challenges I had had to go through in 294 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: my professional you know, changes to the pandemic, to motherhood, 295 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: to all of that, and then trying to step back 296 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: into the space. I even said it just now, trying 297 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: to step back into the said no, stepping back into 298 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: the space this is not my first rodeo, right, So 299 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: I even remember when I was shooting the first two 300 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 3: visuals for Say Yes and I Choose You. We did 301 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: it in one day, and I remember feeling like I 302 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 3: had to have certain people on set with me to 303 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: help guide and be my eyes. And when I got 304 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: there and I was it was time to be on 305 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 3: the camera without those people there, I was like looking 306 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: back at the footage leaving the shoot that day, being like, you, 307 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: you know what to do. You know this trust You 308 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: don't need to rely on anybody else. And I think 309 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: that in the beginning of my career it was very 310 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: heavily relying on the opinions and the guidance and the 311 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: expertise of other people because granted I hadn't developed it 312 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: for myself. So this is now, this version is fun, 313 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: it's freeing. It's as I said earlier, it's trusting my 314 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: own voice. It's allowing for the work that's been done 315 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: to show itself, to prove itself. You know that it's 316 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: nice to feel like I've I've become an expert of 317 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: such in myself, right, not even in an industry because 318 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 3: the industry is always changing, but becoming an expert in 319 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: myself is really the goal, and understanding myself and understanding 320 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: what feels good and not betraying my intuition and not 321 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 3: listening to the voice that says, just you got it, 322 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: don't overthink it, go with what you feel. If you 323 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: feel that this is right, trust that you can say 324 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 3: yes to yourself. And so that's been this recipe, this mantra, 325 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: these words of affirmation that I have been holding onto 326 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: in this season of my life. The songs are about it, 327 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 3: the EP is about it, and more important than the music, 328 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: it's what I want people to understand about life. And 329 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: I think that again using my voice as a vessel 330 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: is sure. We could listen to this music, but I 331 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 3: also want the things that I say and the messages 332 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: that I say to reach people in a way that 333 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: they feel connected to get that they can apply in 334 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: their lives and then also love the music at the 335 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: same time for it. So yes, it's a season of 336 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: fun right now. Season of fun. 337 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: I mean, thank you for walking us down that road, 338 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: because there's so many things that I think are so 339 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: significantly important that you said out loud for everybody listening, 340 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: like so many things, and most especially it's the self 341 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: trust right, It's like you are prepared. It's trusting yourself 342 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: to do what God wants you to do and do it, 343 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 2: you know, like there's no further preparation needed. It is 344 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: the surrendering and the allowing. 345 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: I have been speaking to God more than I ever have. 346 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: And that also is attributed to having children, because I 347 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: want them to have a relationship and a connection to 348 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: the voice of God at a very young age. And 349 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: I want them to see me having that connection as well. 350 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: And that can look different for everybody. Yeah, please say 351 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: more about how that looks for you, guys. 352 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: For us, we. 353 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: Talk to God every night, we do, and we express 354 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 3: our gratitude for the things that we have. We ask 355 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: for the blessings for the people who don't have. We 356 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: ask for the prayer of for me. When I pray 357 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 3: over my children, I want them to hear me say, 358 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: may they always know the love and the light that 359 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: is inside of them. May they always trust that, May 360 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: they always know that they are guided and protected and 361 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: divinely covered. I want them to hear these words because 362 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: to your point of saying, how we trust ourselves, we 363 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: come to this place we trust ourselves. My children are 364 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: going to go out into the world, and I'm going 365 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: to need them to trust themselves. I'm going to need 366 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: them to make good choices based off of the voice 367 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: that they've been connected to inside, that we've been talking to, 368 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: that we've been nurturing and pouring into, and that is 369 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: absolutely connected to God directly. So you know, it's not 370 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: even it's not about religion per se. It's about spirituality. 371 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: It is about knowing the God that exists within us 372 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: and always knowing that that is something that we can 373 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: rely on. And we should absolutely be encouraged to not 374 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: be shamed to talk about or to share or to 375 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 3: be that way. And I every time I go somewhere 376 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: before I go, Now, even yesterday I had to go somewherehere, 377 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: I had to sing, and I talk to God the 378 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: whole way to my while I was driving. May I 379 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: show up in my fullest self. May you, May you 380 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: work through me in this space that whatever I say, 381 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: whatever I speak, whatever I sing today reaches those who 382 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: need it, reaches those who need it, reaches those who 383 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: feel it and want it and are looking for it. 384 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: May I say something that comes channeled from You to 385 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: these people. And so that's again when I think about microphones. 386 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: When I think about platforms, people listening, watching, it comes 387 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: with great responsibility. We're human and we don't have to 388 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: be perfect. But I think it is important that I 389 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: always try my best to know that I'm operating from 390 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: intention and from source. And so again with my children, 391 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: I see their light for who they are. I mentioned 392 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: my daughter. You know, we were talking off camera about 393 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: my son. His spirit so pure, so divinely connected, so intuitive, 394 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: very much my child, and I want to encourage and 395 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 3: protect that and nurture that, and so I have to 396 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: lead with that in my life. And so even these songs, 397 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: these songs that I'm creating, when I think about what 398 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: I want to say. You know, when I was younger 399 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: and I was inspired by vulnerable love songs that Whitney 400 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: Houston would sing or Lauren Hill would sing, and even 401 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: if I wasn't living or experiencing it, I felt it 402 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: and I wanted to sing those songs too. And now 403 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: that I am a wife, a woman, a mother, I 404 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: think about what it is that I want to say, 405 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: even in the truth of how difficult it can be. 406 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 3: On the project, I have a song called Mona Lisa 407 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: Smile and Mona Lisa's smile is about the sometimes the 408 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: conflict that you can feel in a relationship, in a situation, 409 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 3: but the fact that you have to carry on because 410 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: if I let one tear fall, they will turn into 411 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: an ocean. And so that's a conversation of vulnerability too 412 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 3: that I think, especially women of color, black women, that 413 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: we carry that we have to be strong, this crown 414 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: of strength that we are. We're so strong, we're so 415 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: strong that we have the capable of But I also 416 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: am fragile inside, you know, and I want to be 417 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: seen as such, you know. I want to be celebrated 418 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: for both. And so that's where Mona Lisa's smile comes 419 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: from in that regard. So when I'm thinking about leading 420 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: by example, I'm thinking about what are the words? What 421 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: are the songs? My children are singing? These songs my 422 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 3: children were present when I was singing songs like it 423 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: Kills Me in. 424 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: Four Am and Longside of a Love Song that was 425 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: my heartbreak, devastation and certified lover girl. Oh my heart 426 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: is broken, Let me sing a song about it. My 427 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: heart isn't broken now, you know, my heart isn't broken down. 428 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: My heart is hold and expanded and growing and expanding 429 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: every day, and so what do I want to say? 430 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 4: What do I want to see my children sing with 431 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 4: me about? What do I want them to know about 432 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: their mother in her journey, on her journey? And so, yeah, 433 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: it's been it's been really important to be mindful for 434 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: me about everything that I do now, how what I consume, 435 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: how I consume it, Who do I engage with, Where 436 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: do I socialize? How do I socialize? Where is my 437 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: energy best served? Can I quiet the voice down that 438 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: says you have to be in it, you have to 439 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: do it, you have to keep going. 440 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: Do I right? Or can I take the time I 441 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: need because it's mine to take. So that's yeah, that's 442 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: what I keep telling everybody, Like whenever I speak to 443 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: other artists or creatives, I'm always like, take your time, 444 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: it's yours to take. When I think about the break 445 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: between my projects, my last project, full length project, came 446 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: out in twenty twelve, twenty twelve, it's been thirteen years 447 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: in the space of what they've told us about what 448 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: makes longevity or what people amount success to or you 449 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: got to be in it. If people will forget about you, 450 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: or you'll be washed out, you'll be washed up, you'll 451 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: be forgotten, damaged goods. I'm still here with more to 452 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: say and more to give and more to offer, and 453 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: that is nothing short of God and just being obedient 454 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: and protecting and doing the work along the way. Because 455 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: if I wasn't doing the work along the way, I 456 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: might be in it. I might be on a different path. 457 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: I might not have the peace that I have that 458 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: I saw and fought so hard for, certainly, you know. 459 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: So I'm grateful that I learned some very valuable lessons 460 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 3: in what I always call my awakening year, which is 461 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and that really put me on 462 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: I think the trajectory to have longevity and sustainability, to 463 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: be here again, to still be healthy and to have energy. 464 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: And I keep saying, gas in the tank, gas in 465 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: the tank, because it's a journey, so you. 466 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Know, I. 467 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting, it's exciting, so. 468 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: Exciting and so deep and so exactly what this is, 469 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: you know, like this is what purpose is. This is 470 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: what devotion to your gifts into the way you're meant 471 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: to serve is, you know, and it's meant to be 472 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: so many things, you know, it's meant to change form 473 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: in so many ways. And it's like every every decade, 474 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: every five year cycle, every ten year cycle, like we 475 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: should be looking and doing things that are different, yes, 476 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: but still settled into the truth of who we are, 477 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: what our gifts are, what our skills have been Like 478 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 2: this is it? 479 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 480 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I have to say too, just everything that 481 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: you spoke to in regards to how you talk to God, 482 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: how you connect with God with your children, I see 483 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: I relate to, I deeply connect to in so many ways, 484 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: and that kind of living prayer, there is nothing more 485 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: powerful in the world, Like I've just found the way 486 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: that kind of living your prayer and being in constant 487 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: dialogue about every piece, every piece, like down to everything. 488 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: Just like like one of the things that I just 489 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: am always saying throughout the day is like, teach me God, 490 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: show me, show me God, teach me, Surprise me. 491 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: God, surprise me God. 492 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so powerful. And thank you for sharing the 493 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: process because I think so many people are going to 494 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: be able to bring more of that because nothing else matters. 495 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: Like if we can be clear and honest, nothing else matters. 496 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: If you weren't doing all of this for God, what 497 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: is the point. 498 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: I think people get so embarrassed sometimes at the idea 499 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: of hearing themselves say certain things out loud. They feel 500 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: like it has to be this quiet thing. And that's 501 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: fine if that's what you feel is needed. But I 502 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: truly believe that sometimes people are afraid to say no, 503 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: I talked to God out loud, or to walk around 504 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: and say it out loud in your house to yourself. 505 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: Surprise me, God, surprise me God. God loves direct communication 506 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: just like every other healthy relationship, right like we ask 507 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: for it in our marriages and our relationships and our 508 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: friendships and our professional relationships. God absolutely so that God 509 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: can be direct with you. Because I think that that's 510 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: also the thing is that I've in recent in the 511 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: last year, specifically, there's been a couple of situations so 512 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: I've been like, God, if this is not meant for me, 513 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: if this person is not meant to be here, show 514 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: me remove it. And sure enough that person is like, 515 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I can no longer be here. Great, 516 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: thank you, no no problem, you know, And I listening 517 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 3: to that, it's been, it's it's it's it's been so 518 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: important for me, I think to have space to listen 519 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: to the voice of God when I when I ask 520 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: for it, and remember that I ask for it, for it, 521 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: for it. 522 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: Deeply. Well, first of all, this new EP Yes four Yes, 523 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: it will be birthed into the world Say Yes. Say 524 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: the power of that statement alone. Talk to me about 525 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: how this creation began to take form and most especially 526 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: the title. 527 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: So the song itself, say Yes on the project was 528 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: kind of the anchor for me. This is my heartful 529 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: in the word, hard capital art piece. I love this 530 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: song so much because it came from such divine magic 531 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: in this room. This song was created a complete live 532 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: jam session, Wow Yes, with some of the most incredible 533 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: producers and musicians that we know. I'm going to say 534 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: their names because they are so magical. Andre Harris, then Undercat, 535 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: Charlie Burrell, Chris Dave, some of the most just incredible 536 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: artists and musicians all came together in one room and 537 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: we were in the room one night and they just 538 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: started playing and the music that came out was this song. 539 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: There was no conversation, there was no direction. Wow, it 540 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: was a it was a full channel just working through 541 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: everybody in the room. I co wrote this song with 542 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: Sir another incredible R and B artist, and even that 543 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: was such a very sacred time because he hadn't even 544 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: arrived at who he would become as well. He was 545 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: still more behind the scenes at that time, and so 546 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: it was just magical. And I knew that this song 547 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: was magical, and I knew that it was very important. 548 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: It would have a life in my career, and I 549 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: didn't know how or when, because I was going through 550 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: some changes that I didn't know how things were going 551 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: to land on where it was going to be or 552 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: when these songs were going to come out. And so 553 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: when the time arrived that I started revisiting putting out 554 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 3: new music, say Yes was there and I was like, Okay, 555 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: this is it. I know that this is this is 556 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 3: the piece that I've been carrying and the magic of 557 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 3: what this song represents, the live instrumentation, the soulfulness of it. 558 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: The story. The story is about me and my now 559 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: husband of what we had to what we had to 560 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 3: do to arrive at this life. We had to say yes, 561 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: to overcome the fear, to put the doubt away, to 562 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: put the traumas away, what we've been through, and say 563 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: yes to one another and move forth and to be 564 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 3: vulnerable and that messaging alone again like I said earlier, 565 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: outside of the music is what I want people to know. 566 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: I want people to know that everything remarkable that I 567 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: personally have ever done has come from saying yes. Absolutely, 568 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: everything that I've ever achieved, every new height that I've 569 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: ever risen to, has come from saying yes. And so 570 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: I want people to feel that. I want people to 571 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: So many people say, oh, I love your love, I 572 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 3: love seeing you and your husband, and we know our 573 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 3: story of what it took to get there, But listening 574 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: to these songs, you'll have a deeper understanding of what 575 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: it really did take. And how can you apply that 576 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: mantra to your life, whether it be for your love, 577 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: your professional endeavors, whether it be for the way that 578 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: you want to see yourself honor yourself. What do you 579 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 3: want to say yes to yourself for? And so that 580 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 3: is that's where this title and just the affirmative of 581 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 3: the power of the words. When people say, oh, you 582 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 3: have a new ep say yes, they're putting more energy 583 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: into the into the saying, into the saying say yes, 584 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 3: say yes yes, plant the seeds. Have somebody say have 585 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: you heard Melanie's new EPCE Say yes, Oh, say yes yes, 586 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: say yes yes, I have heard it just more affirmative language, 587 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: you know, And that's I didn't arrive here without affirmations. 588 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 3: I didn't arrive here without affirming and believing that I could. 589 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 3: I didn't arrive at this life and this love and 590 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: this these blessings without allowing God to be present and 591 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: to work and to say yes to it all. 592 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: You know. 593 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 3: So overcoming fear was a big part of this, big 594 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 3: part of all of it, to welcome love into my life, 595 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: to take the step of uncertainty and unknowing how things 596 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: could or could not turn out, but to continue to walk, 597 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: to continue to journey. And so yeah, it's about It's 598 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 3: about the affirmation. But then the music I'm so proud of. 599 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 3: I'm just so proud of these. I think they feel 600 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: really good. They feel really good. 601 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: You know. 602 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: I worked with incredible people on this project. James Fauntleroy, 603 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: an incredible songwriter, producer, one of my longest friends in 604 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 3: the music industry, both of us knowing each other before 605 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: anyone knew our names, and to create with him on 606 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: this project was It's very special to me because I 607 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: just admired his work so much. D Mile incredible live musicians, 608 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: just so much talent that showed up for me on 609 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: this project, and then these stories of just love and 610 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: how I celebrate my love and love in general in 611 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 3: this season of life. Six songs easily digestible, press play, 612 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 3: let it run, say yes. On the project, I brought 613 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: back at the end of the project for a full 614 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: seven minutes. It's a seven minute song, and so that 615 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 3: was intentional. It's getting lost in the music house. 616 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: Yes, I was like, that was the seventies. Yes, Oh 617 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: my god, these beautifully long, long with long intros and 618 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: outros to lead you. 619 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 3: In and take you out and ah, and that is 620 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for people to hear that. Yeah, because 621 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: it's a vibe. Dance to it, make love to it, 622 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: smoke to it, whatever you do, ritual to it. I 623 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 3: don't care. But the music is so beautiful and knowing 624 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: I want people to understand that. Again, the way this 625 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 3: song was created, there was no conversation. These transitions when 626 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 3: you hear the music and you think it's about to 627 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: end and then it goes into another groove was just 628 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: just magic happening in the room. And I was sitting 629 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: there like, what am I whim saying? It's a memory 630 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 3: etched in my mind, and so I want people to 631 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 3: experience what that feels like. And so yeah, and then 632 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: this project is I think the platform and the door 633 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 3: opener for me for for completion, because I know what 634 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: it took to get here. I know the times where 635 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if I was going to arrive back here. 636 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: I know the times when I didn't know if there 637 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: was more gas in the tank and if I could 638 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 3: heal beyond what I had been through to arrive back 639 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 3: at this place. And so to me, success is releasing 640 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 3: it on April fourth, not the expectation of how successful 641 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 3: and who and that I've done it for myself, that 642 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 3: I've fulfilled this calling to continue to use my voice 643 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: the way I know I am intended to the way 644 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 3: I was gifted to the way I was put here to. 645 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: And so. 646 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: It's a marker of success for me personally to cross 647 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 3: that finish line with this project so amazing and then 648 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 3: be open to what God has in store for me 649 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: after right. 650 00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: So amazing and creation for creation's sake, you know, creation, 651 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: because you are built to create, and God says, so 652 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: you know, It's like, I think what you're describing to 653 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: is something I think about a lot where it's like 654 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: people that are true creatives, people that are really here 655 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: with gifts and need to serve. It's like taking the 656 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: ego out of it, right, And it's so hard to 657 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: do because we are so conditioned by society, but especially 658 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: coming from the industry. It's like it's themn near impossible today, right, 659 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: But it's like it just speaks to such deeper layers 660 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: of surrender and trust and again purpose and alignment. Because 661 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 2: when you're a great, when you're someone that has something 662 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: to really offer and deliver, it is for all time, right, 663 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: Like it is not just for this year or this 664 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: award cycle. It is for all time. Yes, And your 665 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 2: fans are heavy, so of course they're gonna love this project. 666 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: And and someone in a couple hundred years might find 667 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: it and be brought to life in a different kind 668 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: of way and it could mean something entirely different or 669 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: more to the people of that time. Like none of 670 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: that matters. Creation is what matters. 671 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Oh my gosh. It's like we, like I said, 672 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 3: it's very difficult, I think, especially in a space of 673 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 3: social media, right, Like we feel triggered and challenged all 674 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 3: the same time when we see people just doing the 675 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: thing and doing the thing, and people are like, oh 676 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 3: my gosh, it's too much. But it's like is it 677 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: too much or are you afraid to do it? And 678 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: that's why it feels a little triggering. Create the thing, 679 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 3: put the thing out, Create more, create more create. So 680 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 3: that's why for me, I think not allowing myself to 681 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 3: get caught up in is this better than the work 682 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: that I've already created. No, it's the best work you've 683 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: created right now, cause you did it, you know, And 684 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 3: so I'm so glad you said that, because it is 685 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 3: about creation. Everything has come from creation. We have been created, 686 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 3: and so that is really important. I'm excited about what 687 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: I do at sixty five, right right, I'm not concerned 688 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 3: about getting older. 689 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: What a blessing to be able to do it. 690 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 4: Please God let me get older, right please God, let 691 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 4: me get a privilege. 692 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 3: Aging is a privilg But how you do it and 693 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: what you want to do with it is up to you. 694 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: So I'm excited about what I can create and continue 695 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 3: to create. 696 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: This just made me think of this mantra from the 697 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 2: designer Norma Kamali. So she has a beautiful book that 698 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if this was her intention. But this 699 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: is what I relate to it as as like a 700 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: book of aging, where it's every chapter is broken down 701 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: by the decade of her life. And she's in her 702 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 2: seventies now. But one of the things she shared was 703 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: this affirmation I think she starts saying in her forties, 704 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: which is I will age with grace, beauty, power, and influence. 705 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 2: And I was just like, that is so powerful, and 706 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 2: none of none of them those words individually need to 707 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 2: be defined right there. There's not really an expectation of 708 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: how that word quantifies, right, but to say that as 709 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 2: the intention. So I've started saying that every day since 710 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: I read the book, and I'm like, I just I 711 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 2: love that so deeply because there are so many things 712 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: to be created with the privilege of aging and with 713 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: the perspective and with the additional gifts and attunements, and 714 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 2: it's just it should never end. 715 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 3: It should never end. Yeah, it should never end. I 716 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 3: look forward. I look forward to it. I look forward 717 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 3: to whatever days I have ahead and the space to create, 718 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 3: because it's just it's it's like we said with God, 719 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: it's like it's all possible. It's just all possible. Anything 720 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 3: is possible. 721 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: And me think any think deeply. Well, Okay, you have 722 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: to finish telling me this story, because when we were 723 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 2: off camera, you told me the first parts of the 724 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: story about say Yes, and you were like, I think 725 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: something about Instagram. 726 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 3: You had said something about say yes on Instagram on Instagram, 727 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 3: and I remember, I'm going to go back and find 728 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 3: it in our in our messages, okay, because I was like, 729 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 3: we have to talk about this, and I hope we 730 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 3: can recall it. Okay, I hope we can recall We're 731 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 3: gonna find it because I knew when this happened when 732 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 3: you said that, I was like, I'm going to sit 733 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 3: down and talk with Devi and it's going to be 734 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 3: about this project. It's going to be about this and 735 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 3: it it just when those words came up, when you 736 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: said them, I was like, oh, it's perfect. I'm going 737 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: to go talk with her, and here we are, and. 738 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 2: It's just it's so like I've just really loved hearing 739 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: your relationship with God. You know, It's been such a 740 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: privilege and a pleasure to hear you share about this 741 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 2: because that like that is the prayer, right, It's just 742 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 2: yes once you learn okay, it's not yes if you're 743 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: a people pleaser. It's not yes if your current battle 744 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 2: and spiritual curriculum is standing up for yourself and having boundaries. 745 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 2: I don't want you to weaponize that or use what 746 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: we're saying as a way to subjugate yourself. But I 747 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: will say you'll know when it's time to learn how 748 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 2: to say yes again. And at the juncture of the 749 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: journey you arrive at after a lot of that crevice 750 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 2: work after are a lot of those shadowy parts. It 751 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 2: is trusting yourself to say yes again. It's empowering yourself 752 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: and your connection with God to say yes again. And 753 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 2: it's like, that's that's the prayer, just yes God, Yes, Yes. 754 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: The answer is always yes God. 755 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 3: Ah, Oh my gosh, that was perfect. That is so 756 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: perfect what you just said, exactly because I think a 757 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 3: lot of people we have said this before. We focus 758 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 3: so much on saying no, you know nos, and it's 759 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 3: a full sentence of course. Yeah, it is, of course. 760 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 3: And I've said a lot of no's, and I've earned 761 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 3: the right to say yes. I've done the work to 762 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 3: say yes. I've done the work to know that if 763 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 3: I say yes to something, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine 764 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 3: because I'm saying it from a place of faith, of intuition, 765 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 3: of experience and trust. And so it is that. It 766 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,479 Speaker 3: is that because I'm so glad you said the people 767 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 3: pleaser thing. Because that doesn't mean you just go and 768 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 3: say yes to everybody. No, you have to arrive at 769 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 3: the place to say yes, shadowy no good And. 770 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 2: Well you know if this message is for you in 771 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 2: your life right now, yes or not yet? Yeah yet, 772 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 2: or you're walking up the hill to it absolutely yes, yeah. 773 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 2: Before I invite you to share some soul work with 774 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 2: the audience, I would love to hear a little bit 775 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 2: more about your creative process. How do you invoke the muse? 776 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: How do you invoke the spirit when you know it's 777 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 2: time to create again? 778 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 3: I create space for myself. I will especially say this 779 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 3: in motherhood. I have a very hard time, or I've 780 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 3: had a very hard time in balancing the guilt of 781 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 3: needing to be other places right, and how I don't 782 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 3: think about dinner when I'm supposed to be writing a song, right. 783 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 2: And so. 784 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 3: I have learned the art of compartmentalizing these roles in 785 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,919 Speaker 3: my life and also communicating with my children and getting 786 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 3: their blessing for it. When I leave the house and 787 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 3: when I have to do things, mommy has to go, 788 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 3: I'll be back. I'll show you what bake my kid. 789 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 3: What are you going to do today? 790 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: You know? 791 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: And so what it looks like, I think in the 792 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: space for me is I always walk with my incense. 793 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm always walking with my Polo sanso. I'm always walking 794 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 3: with crystals. I wear my crystals, and I set intentions 795 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 3: when I'm going into a space. Creativity for me is 796 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 3: like a faucet, and it's one that sometimes takes a 797 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 3: little little loosening up before it starts to flow. And 798 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 3: so for me, the practice is showing up with consistency. 799 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 3: It's showing up with the spirit of allow what is 800 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 3: to come out to come out, and if it doesn't, 801 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 3: try again tomorrow, try again tomorrow. So and also it 802 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 3: comes from being in spaces with people that are of 803 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 3: the same vibration in frequency. I cannot work with anyone 804 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 3: anymore that I don't feel like I can be my 805 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 3: authentic self, like I can share these things out loud, 806 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 3: say these things out loud, that I feel that we 807 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 3: can have a conversation and our words flow and intertwine together. 808 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 3: If I'm writing with you or if I'm creating with music, 809 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 3: whatever it is, it has to be on the same frequency. 810 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: I can't and so when certain things come up, if 811 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 3: it doesn't feel aligned, I just no, thank you, no 812 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 3: thank you. I say yes to spirit and no thank 813 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 3: you to that and so and so. 814 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 815 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 3: So the creative process for me is just you know, 816 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 3: I would love in an ideal world, I would love 817 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 3: to just go away into a very small place on 818 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 3: an island and shut out the world and get quiet 819 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 3: and pick up a guitar and play and isolate myself 820 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,919 Speaker 3: for three to six months. And maybe I will. Maybe 821 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 3: I will one day. Yeah, but my kids need me 822 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: right now. It's not that season of my life. But 823 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 3: I would love to at some point. And maybe that's 824 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 3: what lays Liza ahead of me, you know, maybe that's 825 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 3: the space that I need to find the next level 826 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 3: of my voice, and that I feel is something that 827 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 3: I would would like to explore one day. But for 828 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 3: right now, it's conversations, intention setting and being in spaces 829 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 3: with people that want to create the same way I 830 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: want to create and want to impact people the same way. 831 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, powerful, thank you, Yeah wow. I would like 832 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 2: to invite you at the end of every episode, our 833 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: guest gets to share a piece of soul work, which 834 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 2: is an opportunity for everyone listening to integrate what they've 835 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 2: heard or what they may be experiencing inside with a 836 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 2: practice of any kind. So that can be a favorite 837 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,760 Speaker 2: ritual of yours. It can be a prompt for journaling 838 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 2: or self inquiry, a favorite quote, or an actual type 839 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: of physical or even mental practice. 840 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 3: So many come to mind. Right now, what would I 841 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 3: like to share? I'll take a moment to ask God 842 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 3: right now what it is that I am supposed to share. 843 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 3: The thing that comes back to me is my younger self, 844 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 3: My four year old self said that I wanted to 845 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 3: be a singing nurse when I grew up. And when 846 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 3: I was younger, it didn't necessarily make the most sense 847 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 3: to everybody. It was cute, it was laughable. Oh it's 848 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 3: singing nurse. Who would think to say something like that. 849 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 3: The thing that I'd like to share is I will 850 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 3: ask everybody to think back to the youngest version of 851 00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 3: themselves that they can remember, the most joyful, the most free, 852 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 3: the most sure of self version of yourself as a 853 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 3: young child. And I want you to think it could 854 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 3: be at any age, whatever that is for you minus 855 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 3: four years old, And I want you to think about 856 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 3: what makes that version happy, what lights or used to 857 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 3: light up that version of yourself. And I want you 858 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 3: to think about your journey through life as a tether 859 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 3: back to that four year old, six year old, three 860 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 3: year old, seven year old, nine year old self, whatever age. 861 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 3: And I want you to imagine yourself walking the line 862 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 3: of your life, but understanding that it's curved and you 863 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 3: go off track sometimes and you come back, and I 864 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 3: want you to always find the points in which you 865 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 3: feel connected back to that version of yourself and know 866 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 3: that that is the alignment that you are always seeking 867 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 3: in your life. For what success really feels like when 868 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 3: you are living in your purpose before the world came 869 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 3: and told you what it needed to be, who you 870 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 3: needed to be, how it needed to look. That version 871 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 3: of yourself, that younger version of yourself, knows who you 872 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 3: are at the core. Holding on to that version is 873 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 3: so important to the happiness that you are seeking in 874 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 3: your life, to the joy that you are wanting to 875 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 3: feel in your life. And you will know those moments 876 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 3: when they are aligned, and so don't let them pass 877 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 3: you by flippantly or as just moments going, oh that 878 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 3: was no take a moment to acknowledge that your youngest 879 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 3: self is so happy, is so proud of you, is 880 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 3: with you every day, and it's our job to remind 881 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: ourselves to be and remain connected to that. That has 882 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 3: been something for me. 883 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 2: That I. 884 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 3: I know when happens now, I can clearly identify and 885 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 3: I hold onto that and make I make mental notes, 886 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 3: don't don't don't forget that you're on the right track. 887 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 3: Keep going. You're on the right track. Keep going. It's 888 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 3: confirmation for me. So I don't know if that was 889 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if I lost anyone there, but I 890 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 3: hope that who needed it and who understands what I'm 891 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 3: saying is feeling that because it's been a huge That's 892 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 3: what I That's what I have as a marker of 893 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 3: success for me. When four year old Melanie is like, yeah, 894 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 3: we're so happy. I'm so proud of you. 895 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 2: Look at you. 896 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 3: Good job, good job. I know who she is. I 897 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 3: know who she is. 898 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 2: So beautiful. 899 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for asking me to share. 900 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: That was so beautiful. This beautiful body of work. Say 901 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 2: Yes is available April fourth, twenty twenty five. 902 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 3: Live with it, live with it, live with it, pray 903 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 3: with it, pray with it, dance to it, love to it, 904 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 3: and come see it live on tour. Yes She will 905 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 3: be on tour this Yes Spray. I'm going on tour 906 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 3: at the end, starting with the end of April, and 907 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 3: I'll be performing the catalog songs, the new songs. And 908 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 3: this experience that I want to create is one that 909 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 3: I want people to walk away feeling like they have 910 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 3: embodied what it means to say yes. And so that's 911 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:46,479 Speaker 3: my that's my hope for every stage that I touch 912 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 3: on this tour, every person that's ever been with me 913 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 3: on this journey, that has come to see me, that 914 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 3: is coming to see me for the first time. I 915 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 3: want to make a deeper connection beyond the music. I 916 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 3: want everyone to feel like they can and say yes 917 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 3: when they leave that room. So come to the tour, 918 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 3: listen to the music, say yes. 919 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah. I'm like I already I wanted to say 920 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 2: right away yes. So everyone scrolled down in the show 921 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 2: notes of this episode, whether that is on YouTube and 922 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 2: you can see me right now, hello, or you are listening, 923 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,240 Speaker 2: scroll into the show notes. Few things you can link 924 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 2: to the project. You can check out Melanie's websites. You 925 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,720 Speaker 2: can get all the tour dates, and you can connect 926 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 2: with her on Instagram, so you can figure out all 927 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 2: of the things, all these things. Yeah, thank you so 928 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: much for joining us. Thanks you. 929 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 3: This was a breath of fresh air for me in 930 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 3: a murriad of conversations and promotional appearances and singing. This 931 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 3: was a true gift. So thank you for having me. 932 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for creating this space to have conversations like this. 933 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 3: I really appreciate you. 934 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Melli Belly, 935 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: let it anchor in let it integrate and really climb 936 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 2: into your heart with this one. Who are you being 937 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 2: called to become right now this moment. 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