1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off now. Thanks for 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: being here. Everybody. We addressed in the last hour the 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Michigan results for the primary. To get deeper into that, 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: we'll have Tutor Dixon joining us later on the program. 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: You'll know her from well running for governor in Michigan, 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: but also from the Tutor Dixon podcast, which is on 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck Network. 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We also had gone some follow 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: up reporting here on the murder of Lake and Riley 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: at the University of Georgia and had Big Gun to 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: get into a disastrous press conference put on by Kelly Gertz. 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: The mayor of Athens, Georgia. He first started to give 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: a lecture as if he somehow is an expert on 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: immigration and crime, illegal immigration, mind you, and crime, which 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: felt very tone deaf. Under the circumstances, people are upset, 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: understandably so by way of quick review, this was an 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: illegal who gained our system to come into the country, 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: broke our laws, then broke our laws again endangered. A 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: child under seventeen years of age was arrested in New 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: York City and was released quickly so that immigrations accustom 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: enforcement could not deport him because they're trying to play 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: this game of hide and seek where our own law 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: enforcement and sanctuary jurisdictions is helping to hide illegals from 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: the law enforcement of the federal government. Imagine if we're 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: doing this with other laws for a moment, and what 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: outrage there would be. But back to the Mayor of Athens, Georgia, 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Kelly Gertz. He gets into this. He starts talking about 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: sanctuary city status and there are protesters, hecklers in this 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: press conference. 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: This is cut to play it. 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: We know many of the elements, many of the elements. 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: They're here to listen. You're a liar here to listen 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: every time for questions. 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: Guilty, he got blood on your head with this murder, Sir. 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: Many of the aspects that are ascribe to sanctuary cities. 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: We know what sanctuary are. 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: Things that are disallowed by Georgia law. 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Every sanctuary city, every sanctuary city should be ashamed of 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: what it does. Actually, but they're not clay. It gets 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: worse though for the mayor. He then decides to jump 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: in with well, let's all remember Trump was really mean 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: to illegal immigrants, as if that has anything to do 53 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: with anything, and then the then the audience at this 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: press conference gets really upset. 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: This cut three. 56 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen was not that long ago. You might remember 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: the dynamic we were living in in the late teens 58 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: in this country where you had President of the United 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: States speaking in the most vile terms about people who 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: were four and born, and you had that notion metastasizing 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: in places like Charlotte. 62 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Stille An invasion. 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: When I was cial and you know what I thought 64 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: about doing, crossing the border to Mexico to get away 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: from my crime. 66 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: Son, I'm gonna ask you to leave. 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: Jesus he saved me, and I no longer. 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: List that all this like how much you do? They're 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: not happy in that press conference in the audience there, Clay, 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: A lot of politicians are not very smart to decide 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: that you're going to have a press conference in the 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: wake of a highly emotional murder of a college age student, 73 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: a recent University of Georgia graduate who now is giving 74 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: her life over to become a nurse, brutally murdered based 75 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: on your decision. He was the mayor at the time 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: that Athens officially announced that it was a sanctuary city 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: and encouraged as many illegals as they could have come 78 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: to Athens as possible. To not take responsibility for that, 79 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how a lot of these politicians get 80 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: out of bed and look at themselves in the morning. 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: Because it's one thing if you're a different opinion on 82 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: what should the corporate tax rate be, what do we 83 00:04:54,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: think about about issues of property taxes? There are lots 84 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: of things where you and me we can sit around 85 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: and we can agree or disagree on budget related issues. 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: But allowing eight million illegals to pour into the country 87 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: and having a story like Lake and Riley in every 88 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: state and every major city in America right now, every 89 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: single one of them has someone like Lake and Riley 90 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: who is dead because an illegal killed them in cold 91 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: blood via murder or because they were driving drunk, And 92 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: people say, well, they could still have gotten killed. 93 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: That's true. I wish we had a zero murder eate. 94 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: I wish no American citizens committed murders, but that happens, 95 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: and we try to hold people accountable when they do it. 96 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: The difference is American citizens should be here, and we 97 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: have to deal sometimes with the criminal behavior of actual 98 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: American citizens. What should never happen is no illegal citizen, 99 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: no illegal alien, should be murdering anyone in this country. 100 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: And for him to stand up there buck and try 101 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: to lecture us on immigration policy and say that Donald 102 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: Trump was not was not good for what he said 103 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: about immigrants in twenty nineteen is so tone deaf at Charlottesville. 104 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has a habit of marrying foreign born individuals, 105 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: just to start with, So the notion that he's some xenophobe, 106 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. He seems to think foreigners are just fine. 107 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: And beyond that, why bring that, What does that have 108 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: to do with anything in this press conference? I mean, 109 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: that's the much more important. It's just trying to blame shift, right, 110 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I mean that's the goal clearly. I mean, why why 111 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: are all these places sanctuary jurisdictions Because they are trying 112 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: to subvert federal immigration law. That's it. They don't want 113 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: to use their resources to be helpful, and in fact, 114 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: they will use their resources to be unhelpful. Yeah, it 115 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: comes to federal immigration law. And I am sorry, but 116 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: the government does not get to say people can be 117 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: here illegally and commit crimes and not be subject to deportation. 118 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: But if you don't pay your taxes, you go to 119 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: prison because we say so. Because we say so doesn't work. 120 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: If you're going to pick and choose the laws, the 121 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: law either counts or it doesn't. And that's why I 122 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: think people just get so fed up with this, and 123 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: especially when they see democrats and the left wing media, 124 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: they always have their first response when they find First 125 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: of all, their first response when an illegal commits in 126 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: his crime is to hide the fact that the individual 127 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: is an illegal. They do that they don't want people 128 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: to know. They feel very justified and oh, we don't know, 129 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: and don't say what their status is. You can't know. 130 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: And then the next step when it finally comes out, 131 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: because usually someone in the right wing media does the 132 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: recent arch and figures it out. Then it's always some 133 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: position of sympathy. All this person comes from a very 134 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: rough circumstance though, and don't don't blame all the other 135 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: immigrants about this. It very much reminds me of whenever 136 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: there used to be a jihadist terror attack. The first 137 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: response of the Democrat media was the real threat here 138 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: is Islamophobia. 139 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, well, I don't know, the real threat 140 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: might be the. 141 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Ten people that just got murdered by some you know, 142 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: Islamo fascist maniac. I think that's the real threat. But 143 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, at NBC and the New York Times, et cetera, 144 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: it's always the real threat is Islamo fascism. And every 145 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: time some young girl gets murdered by an illegal immigrant 146 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: gang member or whatever, you know, raped and murdered or 147 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: you know, attacked or killed in a drunk driving accident, 148 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: the media is ah, first and foremost, let's remember we're 149 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: a nation of immigrants. 150 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: Here. 151 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: It's like, well, are we a nation of illegal immigrants? 152 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: Because if we are, we're not a nation anymore. Also, 153 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: they try to say, well, statistically, immigrants don't compete, don't 154 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: commit crimes at the same level that exists in the 155 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: United States. And my response on that is, one, let's 156 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: actually have a discussion about whether that's true, because I 157 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: think the data would be that men fifteen to forty 158 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: commit Illegal immigrants actually far higher rates of crime crime 159 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: than many different groups do out there. For instance, illegal immigrants, 160 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: I guarantee you commit higher rates of crime than the 161 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: average Asian person does in the United States who is 162 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: a citizen. Right, you don't want to cite high crime 163 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: rates and then excuse illegal immigrants because their crime rate, 164 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: while still also high, isn't quite as high as other 165 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: groups might be. But even if that is true, the 166 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: difference is it should be zero. Right, there should be 167 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: a crime rate of illegal immigrants preying upon Americans citizens, 168 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: if our country was doing its job to protect the 169 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: sanctity of our borders and the safety of our citizens, 170 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: it should be zero. So saying well, they commit violent 171 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: crime at lower rates than general populations, I don't care 172 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: about that argument, because the argument should be there should 173 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: be a zero percent crime rate from illegal immigrants because 174 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: we shouldn't allow them to come here and commit crimes 175 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: at all. And building on that buck. And this is important. 176 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: The sanctuary cities actually encourage in some ways the commission 177 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: of crimes because they won't even hold criminals to allow 178 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: immigration to arrive. They put them back on the streets 179 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: before ice could even do anything about it, which to 180 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: me is a direct attack upon American law. 181 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: How in the. 182 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: World can you put people back out on the streets 183 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: before we even allow customs and Immigration to know that 184 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: they committed a crime in the first place. That seems 185 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: like straightforward a direct attack upon the American criminal justice system. 186 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: And all these people who are always lobbying in favor 187 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: of illegals all across the country, they should be fourced 188 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: to answer the question. And this goes for most, if not, 189 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: you know, really almost all elected Democrats. Some of them 190 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: will pretend to care about this in public, but behind 191 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: closed doors they'll go along with whatever amnesty bill and 192 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: whatever sham border security bill they want to put forward. 193 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: If there's no reason to enforce the law against illegals 194 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: who are in the country or who are coming into 195 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: the country, why not just have an open border. This 196 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: is the part of it that they never have an 197 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: answer for. They say, oh, no, we're not open borders. 198 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: Did you see recently? I think it was the Associated 199 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Press did some analysis, maybe it was Reuters whatever, same 200 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: communist clap trap. They did some analysis though, and it 201 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: was people say, the borders open. That's not true. Yeah, 202 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: the most militarized it's ever been. What does that even mean. 203 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: It just means that there are more people processing the 204 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: illegals who are being let into the country than ever before. 205 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: More militarized. They're not opening fire on anybody. They're literally 206 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: handing out sandwiches and bottles of water and saying, here's 207 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: your notice to appear see you in six years, and 208 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: maybe putting them on a bus or a plane and 209 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: sending them to a US city that they want to 210 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: go to. That's what the militarized border is, right, They're 211 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: just lying to people. Yes, absurd, but I keep coming 212 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: back to this. They always say, oh, but come on stop, 213 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: like the immigrants that are here illegally, we should let 214 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: them stay. They'll do the jobs Americans want to all 215 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: this stuff. Well, then why aren't they open borders If 216 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: there's no downside to as many illegals coming here as 217 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: they want as want to come here, there's no reason 218 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: why Democrats should agree with us that the border should 219 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: be closed down and we should have fewer people coming in. 220 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: They won't admit that there is a downside, but they 221 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: pretend that they want the same policy because they're lying. 222 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: I agree with all that, and we should take some calls, 223 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: by the way, because I think that press conference with 224 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: the Athens mayor. It's already going megaviral, but I think 225 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: it is indicative of what you're going to hear going forward, 226 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: because there's gonna be sadly a Lake and Riley story 227 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: every couple of weeks as long as you can imagine 228 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: into the future, because I mean sadly, she's not an aberration, 229 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: She's not an outlier. There are a lot of people 230 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: be here's another one league illegal El Salvador and migrant 231 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: accused of killing two year old Maryland boy after being 232 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: released twice from jail following repeated theft charges in an 233 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: order to leave the country. 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With her, also want to 271 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: make sure we don't fail to acknowledge this. Hunter Biden 272 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: is doing his deposition today with the with the House 273 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: committee that is looking into everything that is surrounding the 274 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Biden crime family. So the details of that deposition will 275 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: be coming out I think in the near future. I'm 276 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: sure that Hunter Biden there continue to argue now that 277 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: Joe Biden had nothing to do with the tens of 278 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: millions that Hunter and other members of the family were making. 279 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: Bill and Wisconsin. You have a question. As we were 280 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: just discussing the Athens Georgia Mayer trying to change the 281 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: story from the fact that an illegal immigrant murdered an 282 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: innocent girl in his town, you want to know about liability. 283 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: It's a good question. It's one that we're getting a 284 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: lot fire away. 285 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: Yes, actually it's Bob and Wisconsin. My question is, could 286 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 5: the mayor that released the illegal immigrants be criminally liable 287 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: for access to a murder under federal statues because it's 288 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 5: a racally motivated crime because it's a Hispanic on a 289 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 5: white person. So could the mayor actually be criminally liable 290 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 5: as an accessory? And can the city be financially liable 291 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 5: because they've broke federal law by releasing. 292 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me start. This is a really interesting question. 293 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: The second one the family filing a lawsuit against Athens. Yeah, 294 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: well that's that's civil and that's just can you convince 295 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: a jury? And that's also challenge. There's no no chance, 296 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: there's no choice one zero. Second one, the challenge, buck 297 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: is a lot of cities and states have tort immunity, 298 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: so they can't be held substantially liable for uh, negligent 299 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: ish actions. Just FYI, but if I were a father 300 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: of this girl, Lake and Riley, or any number of 301 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: other illegal immigrant victims in this country, I would want 302 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: to do everything I could to file lawsuits and bring 303 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: attention to the situation that occurred that allowed that murder 304 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: to actually take place. So the first one, no, there's 305 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: no chance of that second one. 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That's t the number two T dot org. 324 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: This just breaking now. Donald Trump is offering the court 325 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: in New York one hundred million dollar bond as an 326 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: offering if you will to pause a four hundred and 327 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: fifty four million dollar judgment. Let's get into this for 328 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: a second. What's going on. As you recall, there are 329 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: there is the judgment from the e Gen Carrol defamation 330 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: case in the eighty million range, and then there's the 331 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: Trump Corporation asset inflation case, which is three hundred forty 332 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: million or fifty something like that, right, I mean, this 333 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: is in the three hundreds of millions of dollars I 334 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: think was three forty and so there's this total outstanding 335 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty four million dollar judgment. Donald Trump 336 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: offered the the New York Court of Appeals today again 337 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: has just broken last few minutes. One hundred million dollars 338 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: now Clay and I were talking about this in our 339 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: commercial break there for a moment. We both agree two things. 340 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: But there's more, and Clay, you can take us through 341 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: the what's next and what do you think happens? But 342 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: this tells us two things. One, Trump does not have 343 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: the four hundred and fifty million on hand. Obviously, that's 344 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: why he's making an offer of a You don't offer 345 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: the court one hundred million unless you're saying, look, this 346 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: is all I got, right, so he liquid That doesn't 347 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: mean he's not worth billion, just means, as we've discussed, 348 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: he doesn't have eight hundred million dollars sitting in a 349 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: Chase account or a Bank of America account. Yeah, billionaires 350 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: don't do that really, or at least not that I'm 351 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: aware of. I'm not one, so I'd have to ask 352 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: some But and then so he doesn't have more than 353 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: this on hand. And then the other thing is and 354 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: this is a judgment, but we both agree court's not 355 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: going to accept this. So now what happens. Okay, So 356 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: what I believe is likely happening here and this is 357 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: and I don't have This is not somebody filling me 358 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: in on Donald Trump's financial situation. But this squares with 359 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: what I've been telling you guys, and what Buck and 360 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: I have been discussing for some time. Even billionaires don't 361 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: have four hundred million dollars sitting around in cash. That's 362 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: not the way billionaires roll, especially not billionaires with large 363 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: real estate portfolios. Usually what happens is a billionaire will 364 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: have a line of credit to live on, and they 365 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: don't have hundreds of millions of dollars sitting in the 366 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: bank accounts. The Scrooge McDuck idea where you have just 367 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: a big vault of gold coins would not be an 368 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: efficient way to grow your wealth. What I think is 369 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: happening here, Buck is Trump might well have one hundred 370 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: million dollars in cash that he can cobble together. That 371 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: would not be a crazy amount for someone who's worth 372 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: three or four billion dollars maybe, or who knows exactly 373 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: what they're worth. Uh, in your own mind, take it 374 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: outside of billions. Let's say you're worth one hundred thousand dollars. 375 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: How many of you out there that are worth one 376 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars might have three or four thousand dollars 377 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: in your checking account at any given time that's kind 378 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: of the same scenario that I would put into play 379 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: here Truth Social, though, Buck, this is where I think 380 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: this timing is coming in. Truth Social is set to 381 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: officially go public. I believe at the end of March 382 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: and staff, you guys can look this up and confirm 383 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: that I'm right about this within the next month or so. 384 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's stake in truth Social, based on the valuation 385 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: of the spact that is connected to it, is around 386 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: four billion dollars. That is billion with a B. It 387 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: is actually very common for super wealthy people with substantial 388 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: stakes in companies to borrow money based on the valuation 389 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: of that stake. I think Trump offering one hundred million 390 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: dollars is designed to buy time until truth Social goes 391 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: public and Trump, with four billion dollars in assets there, 392 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: can go to a bank and say, hey, the stock 393 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: price is x, I have why. 394 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Number of shares? 395 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: Will you give me a line of credit of a 396 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: billion dollars or six hundred million dollars or whatever dollar 397 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: figure he wants, which he can then use to put 398 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: a bond down on these cases. But make no mistake 399 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: about it, this is designed to financially cripple Donald Trump. 400 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: What they are trying to do to him is put 401 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: him in prison for the rest of his life and 402 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: bankrupt him. And this is the game plan. He's not 403 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: wrong when he lays all this out, regardless of what 404 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: your politics are, regardless if you're a diehard Nicki Haley person. 405 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: Right now, they are going after Donald Trump with every 406 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: financial lever they have and every criminal. 407 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: Lever they have because of his politics. 408 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: And the one thing I bet if Trump could go 409 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: back in time, I bet he wishes that he had 410 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: moved his assets out of New York. 411 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: And if you're out. 412 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: There right now and you're saying, I'm not a billionaire, 413 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: but you're trying to build wealth for your family. This 414 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: is why I say get out of blue cities, get 415 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: out of blue states. The combination is toxic. I think 416 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: they will not have assets. I'm keeping my assets in Tennessee, 417 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: you're keeping yours in Florida. The reality here is that 418 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: Trump is going to lose this request for the one 419 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: hundred million to be enough, And then even if this 420 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: one judge were to say it's enough, then the full 421 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: the full Court of Appeals panel of judges would have 422 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: to hear it and agree. And that will not happen. 423 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: If he won this round, he would lose the second round. 424 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: These are all Democrat judges appointed by Democrats. I mean, 425 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: this is like just think of it like Jack Smith 426 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: in Judges Robes. That's what he's going up against in 427 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: New York. And so I do think there's a very 428 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: real possibility here that you're going to see the beginnings 429 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: of what Letitia James has been threatening all along, which 430 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: is the beginning of asset forfeiture or asset seizure, where 431 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: she's going to start saying, all right, we're going to 432 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: start filing the paperwork. You know, Trump Tower is now 433 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: going to be owned by the State of New York. 434 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: This is probably coming soon. This is probably where this 435 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: is going. And understand, even if Trump were able to 436 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: get someone, let's just say a billionaire came along. Let's 437 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: just say Clay decided to write the full check for 438 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: the four hundred and fifty three million dollars. You know, 439 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: his picks lately have been so good in the sports 440 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: world that he's been holding out on us, and he 441 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: can just write a four hundred and fifty three million 442 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: dollars check to bail Trump out. That it's just putting 443 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: it up as collateral to go in front of an 444 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: appeals court in New York and have them rule, and 445 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: they're going to rule against him. So one way or another, 446 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: he's out four hundred and fifty three million dollars if 447 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: someone's going to be or they're gonna start seizing his 448 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: building as buildings in a combination thereof. And I mean, 449 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: what they're doing to him, I don't know what this 450 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: is so third world dictator nonsense from the Biden and 451 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: Democrat perspective. I know this is state, not you know, federal, 452 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: but it's all it's all tied in together. There have 453 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: been meetings with the White House. The Democrat Party is 454 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: pushing for all this stuff. I mean, it's it's crazy 455 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: what they're doing to him, while the criminal stuff is 456 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: working in the background too. And again I think this 457 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: is about buying time based on the value of truth 458 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: social Trump would have based on the price today. And 459 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: by the way, let me click and see what the 460 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: current price of the stock. And this gets into a 461 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: little bit of a complicated thing. But they are trying 462 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: to effectively create a new public company, a company called 463 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: Digital World Acquisition Corp. Which you can buy stock in 464 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: right now, and as I'm looking as trading at forty 465 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: four dollars and eighty five cents a share. They are 466 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 2: merging that with Truth Social, which is Trump's company and 467 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: Trump's steak in that new company, which is supposed to 468 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: be merged and become a public, viable entity which you 469 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: or me or anybody else could buy stock in, is 470 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: supposed to happen at the end of March. And most 471 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: rich people, and this is for instance, how Elon Musk 472 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: bought Twitter. To a certain extent, you are allowed to 473 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: borrow money based on your stock valuation holdings without having 474 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: to actually sell that stock because you don't want to 475 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: pay taxes on it. So let's say you were a billionaire. 476 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: A lot of times billionaires are tied up in the 477 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: individual stock class of a company, which is how they 478 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: got their money. But if you sold that stock, you'd 479 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: have to pay capital gains tax. You would owe a 480 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: substantial amount of tax liability. And so Goldman, Sachs, Morgan Stanley, 481 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 2: some big investment bank will give you a line of 482 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: credit based on the valuation of your stock. I think 483 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: that's how he's going to pay this pay this appeal. 484 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 2: Buck is again his stake in this Truth Social is 485 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: potentially worth right now on the open stock market around 486 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: four billion dollars, and so he could take a tenth 487 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: of that valuation, get a loan and pay it off. 488 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: And that's less suspect than real estate because stock valuations 489 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: are predicated every single day. 490 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Is that super complicated? 491 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I love your optimism that this is all 492 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: going to go and he'll have the money and he'll 493 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: be able to I mean maybe maybe if the Truth 494 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: Social thing happens, it's supposed to go public at the 495 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: end of March, then he would have a big valuation. 496 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: And this is how I do think it's this is 497 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: how side shares. He'd probably have a lock up. He'd 498 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: probably have to get someone to buy those shares. What 499 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: are those shares worth? And it would be a wone. 500 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: It would be a wone just based on the value 501 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: of the open play. Who's gonna give him that loan? 502 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: It's like the surety bond who wants to get in? 503 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 2: I think that's real estate. But at least there is 504 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: a tangible valuation of a stock, so you can look 505 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: at it every day and know exactly what his stake 506 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: is worth. Unlike let's say Trump Tower, which is constantly 507 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 2: fluctuating in value depending on who the buyer is, what 508 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: the interest rates are, all these different complicating factors a 509 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: stock price in theory, you can plug it in and 510 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: know the exact evaluation of a stake every minute of 511 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: every day, which it makes it a little bit more reliable. 512 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: Now to your point, this is what I said on 513 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: the real estate Do you want to get involved with Trump? 514 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: That's the challenge he's got, because then they're going to 515 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: go through your books and try to bring you into 516 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: the mix. And we're getting We're getting there's a few 517 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: steps here. We're getting way down deep into the nitty 518 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: gritty of the true social and a spack or whatever 519 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: it is they're planning on doing to go public. You 520 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: would have shares in a lockup. What are shares in 521 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: a lock up for a year worth? And who wants 522 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: to give value against those shares? 523 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: You know? 524 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: Are they is that it's truth social going to be 525 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: worth in a year? I don't know. It depends that's 526 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: Donald Trump win the election for you, And that's where 527 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: you could get hit with a margin call. Right, Yeah, 528 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: this is where things you know, you're talking to a 529 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty with billions of dollars at stake. I mean, 530 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 2: like I said, Clay, just just save them in you know, 531 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: just step away to it. You know your gambling picks 532 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: have been excellent. Just make it happen. All right, here 533 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: we go. We'll take some of your calls. 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We're going to be joined by 558 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: our friend Tutor Dixon Clay and Buck Podcast Network at 559 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: the top of the next hour here in about a 560 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: little bit over ten minutes from now, to talk about 561 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: the Michigan primary results, what deff any lessons can be 562 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: taken from that. In the meantime, though, I also want 563 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: to remind you that Hunter Biden is giving his closed 564 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: door deposition relating to the Biden crime family today, and 565 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: we've had a lot of breaking news. Mitch McConnell announcing 566 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: he's going to step down at the end of twenty 567 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: twenty four Senate Minority leader. He Majority leader is going 568 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: to be out for the Republicans. We'll see who wins 569 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: up in control of the Senate. But also they are 570 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: continuing to argue that there's nothing that the Biden crime 571 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: family has done wrong. This is Representative Dan Goldman, who 572 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: is probably, would you say, maybe the most vociferous defender 573 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: of the Biden crime family on the Democrat side of 574 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: the aisle now at this pointes and probably the biggest 575 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: hater of Trump in Congress right now as it pertains 576 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: to using the law as a weapon. Wasn't he the 577 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: big mouthpiece during the second impeachment if memory serves, he 578 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: was making the case. Was he one of them? I 579 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: forget what was he or was he he was? I 580 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: think he's a Levi's Air, super wealthy my understanding, and 581 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: he has just gone all in. Adam Scheff is running 582 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: for the Senate, so he's focused a little bit more 583 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: of late. Adam Schiff has been on what needs to 584 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: be done to win that California Senate race, and as 585 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: the lead council in the first sorry first impeachment of 586 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: former President Donald Trump. So yeah, that's what I was 587 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: thinking of. So he was the guy making the case 588 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: to impeach Trump over Russia. Cle over not sorry, over 589 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: the UK. It is tough to keep it all side 590 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: everyone over the Ukraine. Phone call, perfect phone call, one 591 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: hundred percent. Nothing wrong here, he is talking. There's nothing 592 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: to this Hunter Biden situation. Guys, you're all making it 593 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: up here. 594 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: He is explaining that first hour of this much annticipated 595 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: testimony was the nail in the coffin to what is 596 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 4: a complete bogus and sham impeachment inquiry. Hunter Biden gave 597 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 4: very detailed and clear explanations as to what his arms 598 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 4: length business transactions were with private parties in foreign countries 599 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: who are investors. 600 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: And business people. 601 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: So it is not simply there's no connection to the president, 602 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: which we've known all along and which was made clear again, 603 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 4: but there is a very understandable, coherent business explanation for 604 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 4: every single thing that they asked for. 605 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: Fuck. I mean to even make this argument is so 606 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: alppably absurd. 607 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden was a crack fiend getting paid millions of 608 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: dollars for his business expertise. I mean, this is lappably absurd. 609 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: You don't know, perhaps, Hunter, in between the smoking of 610 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 2: the crack and the dancing in the tidy whities with 611 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: the prostitutes, was studying up on Eastern European former Soviet 612 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: natural gas and energy markets. You don't know, let's not 613 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: just skip, you know, let's give the man his due. 614 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: Perhaps he was in between puffs of smoke reading some 615 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: books on Ukrainian Russian political intricacies. No, obviously they're paying 616 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: this guy for access to Daddy. And the whole thing 617 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 2: was a scam. And it's amazing that this guy Goldman 618 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: with a straight face. You know, alls are private parties 619 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: or Yeah, there's a lot of things to say about 620 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: private parties. Someone could give you a bag full of 621 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: fentanel illegally and you could pay the money. That's a 622 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: transaction between private parties too. 623 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: This means nothing. 624 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: It would be fascinating to know how many crackheads made 625 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: twenty million dollars from their business partners during the era 626 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: of hundred. The part they don't even know. There wasn't 627 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: even a business. They just put money in a bank 628 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: account for him. I mean, look, that's the kind of 629 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 2: business I would like to be. Yeah, someone just says, hey, buck, 630 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: I just want to give you a bunch of money. Why, 631 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: we'll figure that out later. I do think the biggest 632 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: reason why this all happened, and it's not discussed a lot, 633 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: but I think you can read the tea leaves. Joe 634 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: Biden thought his political career was over when Barack Obama 635 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: set him down and said I'm going with Hillary in 636 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. 637 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: Biden was old. 638 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: He recognized he thought Hillary was gonna win and then 639 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: she would run again and he would go off and 640 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 2: be done. And so that's when they really turned on 641 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: the money spigot. They were like, we got to make 642 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: as much money as we possibly can right now. I 643 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: legitimately think they never thought this would be an issue 644 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: because they believed his political career was over. That's how 645 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 2: all this ended up happening. That was the impetus