1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, excuse me, Oh my gosh, and it is 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: never ever. I had a crazy, crazy, busy day. I 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: am so tired. I had to make my super Bowl 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: pick today. 5 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: I am also a little bit sleepy, and I want 6 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: to make your super Bowl pick. I had to make 7 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: my super Bowl pick. And you know me, when it 8 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: comes to the big Game, I don't take it so lightly, 9 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: whether it's snacks, commercials, or what happens on the field 10 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: or the incredible halftime show this time brought to us 11 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: for the first time by Apple Music. I just cannot 12 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: get enough. 13 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: Who did you end up being your pick? 14 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: I picked Drake, He stays winning, he stays on top. 15 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: Who'd you pick? I do not believe this game will 16 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: be completed, not if Drake has anything to say about it. Okay, 17 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: let's go home. 18 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't have a specific reason why I don't think 19 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be completed, but I believe it will be. 20 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Most people think, oh, the games that could be complete, 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: something really bad must be gonna happen. No, I actually 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: think something so good will happen. 23 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Having too much fun, too much fun at the concert 24 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: that we will get I really care about this silly game. 25 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a world event, and it 26 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: might have to do with Drake. Maybe Drake invents something 27 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: something so revolutionary. For example, do you think if it 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: was announced during the game that someone, say Drake had 29 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: invented food that is goes on forever and so the 30 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: entire infinite food in planet, the United States and everywhere 31 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: else and everyone can eat eat one potatoes, one potatoes food, 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: and it would and it would be food. Also, of course, 33 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: that tastes fine. It tastes just yes, it's okay. It's 34 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: not going to be amazing. It's it's like, no, it's 35 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: not going to have the most like unique depth of flavor, which, 36 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: by the way, that would be bad because that's you know, 37 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: then you're ruling people out what it tastes. It tastes fine. 38 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: I think Drake could maybe do that during the game. 39 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: And do you think they would be and do you 40 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: think they would stop the Big Game? No? 41 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: Mean, do you think they would stop the Big game? 42 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: If someone they. 43 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: Stopped the Big Game if someone is to inventive food 44 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: that goes on forever? 45 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: I think so. I actually heard on the radio. I 46 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: was driving. 47 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: Breaks out stomping grounds the radio. 48 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard that at the end of her halftime show, 49 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 3: Rihanna is going to drop an amazing announcement. So now 50 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's probably the food thing. 51 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: The food and. 52 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: It's not even you won't have to say it's like 53 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: endless food. 54 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: It's just what kind of music is this? What kind 55 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: of music is this? She says, Hey, end of the show? Hey, 56 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: what kind of music was this? 57 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: Again? 58 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: Someone say apple music? She and Apple materializes, apple and 59 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: growing and she takes a big bite at huge but 60 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: you see the huge bike come out, chew it up. 61 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: She turns to camera. It's the Apple is complete again. 62 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: It's right and and it will be going on forever. 63 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: And Drake say, and Drake says, do that again, hang on, 64 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: we stop. Stop. This is no this is serious right now, 65 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: Redo that again? 66 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: So he still calls Ui. 67 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 68 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Is he not supposed to I don't know, he's not 69 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: He's not supposed to do that anymore. 70 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: They have complicated. 71 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: He's no longer supposed to be doing that. 72 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: She's a married woman. 73 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: He is married to a married woman. Yeah, married to 74 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: a married woman. 75 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if that would be welcome, if 76 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 77 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I don't. But that's what makes our dynamic work, 78 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: doesn't it? Know me? 79 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: It really does. Yeah. 80 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: Is like if we just got on here and we 81 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 2: just agreed about everything, there's no show. 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the beauty of America. It's about no 83 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: may opinions. 84 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Can we get good? 85 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: Wait? 86 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, just before we move on, before we move on, 87 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: while we're on this, I'm so sorry. Before we move on, 88 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: I would like to declare my intention right now. It 89 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: is midnight on February tenth, twenty twenty three. In twenty 90 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: thirty three, Hollywood Headbook will do the Super Bowl half 91 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: type show. 92 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: And I'm going to be the special guest. 93 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: A promise. I am open to it. I no, Here's 94 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: a lot of things would have to happen between now 95 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: and then, maybe more than would need to happen for 96 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: us to be the In many ways, now I can 97 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: promise this. In many ways, you will be the special 98 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: guest because we will be memorializing you. 99 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: Wow one of our songs. We will be primary known 100 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: for musical performance at that time, so. 101 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: You'll be performing Candle in the Wind. 102 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: But for me, we're probably gonna do the fast seven song. 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: That that could work too. 104 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: It's been a long pod without you, my friend. 105 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you all about it when I see. 106 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sing that part. 107 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: No, and I emerged from the casket to like sing 108 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: that beat. 109 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: You all have been gone for so long at that point, 110 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think. I don't think there will 111 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: be any expectation that a casket will be above ground 112 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: at that time. 113 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: Wait, when am I supposed to die? Is it? Is 114 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: it like like the in. 115 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: The six years prior to us doing the halftime show 116 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: at the super Bowl. No, we will sing, but we're 117 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: not gonna. Yeah, you're an duicated adults, i'd say, so. Yeah, 118 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: I went to find schooling. 119 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah that yeah, I mean I didn't go to I 120 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: didn't go to Harvard. 121 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: But there's Yeah, there's something you can't teach, isn't there. 122 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: Nobody goes to Harvard. You may matriculate there. 123 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't teach what happens after we all die. 124 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: That's true, If. 125 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: That's what I'm actually referring to. Self respect. 126 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: No one can keep self respect. 127 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: You teach it, you can't learn it. There's no tuition, 128 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: there's no room and board that you can pay. 129 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, self respect, no professor can give you the cliffs 130 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: notes for self respect. 131 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: No, speaking of self respect, I want to talk about 132 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: agreeing to go on a podcast at eleven thirty pm. 133 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: Oh well, but you know this. We've we've talked about this. 134 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: It's giving desperate as they say nowadays, it's like it's giving, 135 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: like addicted to rejection. It's giving. The boys ask I'm there, 136 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: even though they don't answer my texts otherwise. It's like 137 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: the classic situation. It's giving, pathetic, it's giving. It's giving 138 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: in Basil's giving. What the fuck am I doing? It's 139 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: giving me texting like seven different people and saying like, 140 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: I can't believe I agreed to do this, and yet 141 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: it's so classic that I agreed to do this. 142 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: Anyone we would know. 143 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Let's see John Early, friend. 144 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: Of the pod, and he wasn't like I'll jump me instead. 145 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: No. I The first question I asked Chef Kevin when 146 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: he reached out a mere twenty four hours ago to 147 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: ask me if I would guess on the pod was 148 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: how many people said no? Before he reached out to 149 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: this gambit of like doing the show at. 150 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: The West coast people, by the way, how many west. 151 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: The West coast, Yeah, because thirty is like. 152 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: Before we are to even try someone on the East 153 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: coast exactly where we knew that like even if we succeed, 154 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: we fail, right right, like anyone we can get to 155 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: do it Ye coast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we probably shouldn't. 156 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 3: Have, right because like why what's wrong with her that 157 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: she's like? 158 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: And so the thinking is if she says yes, let's 159 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: try and get her by the end of this thing, 160 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: where the next time someone asked her to be on 161 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: a podcast at eleven thirty pm. 162 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: She will have the tools. 163 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: To say not even no, not even no, ready to 164 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: say honkshoe, honk shoe, honk honk shoe. 165 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: Okay, can you say more about that? 166 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: I'll walk you through some of our conversations because you 167 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: said yes, and Hey said, oh my god, we can't. 168 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: And then in the same moment he said we have must, 169 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: I said we must. 170 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: It's I would think about this were I in your shoes. 171 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: I would think about this as an opportunity. 172 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: It's not an opportunity, it's an obligation. We have, yeah, 173 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: to our fellow human being to teach her the honkshoe, 174 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: the hank shoe, or the as it's sometimes known the snork. 175 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: Me me, me, me, me, Okay, okay, I'm ready to 176 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: hear more. 177 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: What song do you make when you go to sleep? 178 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: What sound do you make when you would require you to, 179 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: maybe eleven hours later respond to a text with I'm 180 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: sleep mm hmm. 181 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting that you asked me this because 182 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: I was just watching the show Milk Manner with my 183 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: daughter m In the most recent episode, there was a 184 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: thing that. 185 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: That's not what that show is for, I know. 186 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 3: Nevertheless, this is what happened, I know. And one of 187 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: the Mills fell asleep in one of like the young 188 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: guys beds, and she snored. 189 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: The show for people who don't know, cougars are zapping 190 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: hunks left and right and v Okay, but you're telling 191 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: me none of these hunks got zapped. 192 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: Not yet. We're still waiting. 193 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: Have to beat P and B to get yourselves apped. 194 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: When you're a hunk like. 195 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: These guys, when you're that honky, yes you could, yeah, 196 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: you could get that all kinds of ways, but go ahead. 197 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: So she fell asleep in the bed. 198 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: Up until then she was you know, she is the 199 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: most let's say, outgoing milf in the house. 200 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: And she's face down, and she's kind of like splayed 201 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: out like a starfish. 202 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: She's splayed out like a goddamn starfish. Okay, And her 203 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: sort of face is up against the pillow and she's 204 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: snoring like a so called trucker. 205 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Truckers famously they have to stay away. They 206 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,359 Speaker 2: stay awake so much the profession. 207 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: When they do fall asleep, all the speed. 208 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: They take, they have to be extra loud. That might 209 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: be the sound of the truck's engine. You're that it 210 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: might be the idling of the big rig. 211 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: So when that when that machine is going by, that's 212 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: not that's not the sound of the trucker. 213 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: The truck is next to you on the highway and 214 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: you go, this guy's snoring so loud. This is dangerous. 215 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: That's actually they're just driving and the truck makes that sound. 216 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: Well, this is this is you know, the whole premise 217 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: now of this story is gone belly up. 218 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: And then what did one false move? Right? 219 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: So the stud was like, oh my god, Kelly is 220 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: snoring really loud, And just like that, his boner went 221 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: flippity flop. 222 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: Oh wow, the snoring made the boner go away, and 223 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: the hunk went unsapped, He went, when I discuss milf manner, 224 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: just so the audience knows I am spelling milf. 225 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: With a y. 226 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: And why this is a mom you'd like to forticate? 227 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: I personally don't want that, but you would like it. 228 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: And so just if the show comes up, which it 229 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: seems it's going to later in the episode, or over 230 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: and over again as it is your current fixation. Talk 231 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: about your tendency toward obsession. I say, collect these little pets. 232 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: And why why do I say that? Just like Harvey Milt, Well, 233 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: no think yeah, good manners. It stands for mother I'd 234 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: like to kill. 235 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: This week on the Patreon, the Boys pick their legacy 236 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: episode on the pro Version and the Flagrant Ones are 237 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: mostly talking all things basketball. Plus this Friday exclusive on 238 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: the Patreon, you can listen to the live Hollywood Handbook 239 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: show from the Dynasty Typewriter and if you have the 240 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: video tier, you can watch the show too. So all 241 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: of that goods off is available at patreon dot com. 242 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: Slash the Flager once. 243 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: Me talk about your tendency toward obsession. Talk a little 244 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: bit about that. Because you collect these sort of interests 245 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: and you get all the way inside. 246 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: Do you want to do you want to ask me 247 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: more about like what should I say? 248 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: Let me ask you one more thing. Can you please 249 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: talk about your tendency towards obsession? 250 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: And if as if we're going, if we're really reaching 251 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: back here and staying on this self respect journey, if 252 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: there's a way to pinpoint the moment where we lost 253 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: it and if we could just like go back, if 254 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: we retrace our steps. I'm wondering if we could pick 255 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: it back up along this journey and bring it back. 256 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Maybe somewhere on the path we just we find Naomi, 257 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: know me, know me, We find know me. 258 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: I'd like to we dust all say your name again? 259 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Your name one more time. I'd like to I'd like to. 260 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: Can I I just want to ask a clarifying question. 261 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: Are we talking about the journey towards self respect specifically 262 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: as it pertains to my relationship with YouTube or in life? 263 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: Because those are two I'd like to keep me out 264 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: of it, but wholly different things. 265 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: If my name comes up. 266 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: At like at all, this this like the history, we 267 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: got real problems and I'm done. 268 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: That's a wrap, Chief, that's a wrap from you, Chief 269 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: self respect. Well you know this is this is you 270 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: know you're reaching me a year. 271 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: Let's go to a year. 272 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: Year. 273 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: Ye First, I don't time machine, I mean even fire 274 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: it up to get this flux capacitor going. 275 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: I'm trying to. I'm trying to think what would be 276 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: like a good Then. 277 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Let's suit first memory, first memory of first memory that 278 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: you no, just the first memory that you have, and 279 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: we'll see if you think, and we'll see if you 280 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: had self respect in that moment, and if we have 281 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: to reach back even farther, you know what I mean, 282 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: Like if you're guessing a number, you can go like 283 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: the low end in the middle and we'll just like 284 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: we'll find Okay, so first memory. 285 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: Okay, first memory, Okay, first horrible memory where I'm like, 286 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: I don't. 287 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: Know, probably your four year I don't want to. 288 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: A woman never reveals your age. 289 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Well you have to say your age. You did that, 290 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: you said you were, you said you were. 291 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: Because it pertains to the story, as you'll soon hear. 292 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: Okay, story, we know she's four, if not more. 293 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: Very differently if I'm four or if I'm twenty two. Okay, Okay, 294 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: there I was at my grand house. I was for 295 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: some reason called downstairs. I was not wearing a shirt. 296 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: What happened? Something downstairs? 297 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: Going down? It was like a building, right, It was 298 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: a building with maybe like six apartments. And I don't 299 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: know if my sister called me downstairs or something. Anyway, 300 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: I was a mere lass. It was summer. I was 301 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: wearing no shirt. 302 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: I was four years old, so just overalls and I. 303 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of those like sassy like overalls 304 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: nothing on underneath moments, okay. And I went downstairs and 305 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: the neighbors kids made fun of me for not wearing 306 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: a shirt. They were older, they were like, I don't know, 307 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: seven or eight, and. 308 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: I remember there and tails. 309 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: They were fully kitted out in the gala, no spurs 310 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: like cowboy hat. 311 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, the whole thing, the whole thing. 312 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. This was in Nevada and eighteen ninety two. 313 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so western snaps and a fringe leather jacket. And 314 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: they made fun of child noom they made fun of. 315 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: They made fun of me and they said what. 316 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: They said, like, you're naked. I don't know what they said. 317 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: They said something like that. They made fun of me 318 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: for not wearing a shirt. 319 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: Where's And I. 320 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: Remember sort of folding my arms in front of my chest, 321 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: and you know, hiding the goods, so to speak. 322 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: And as demented as this story is, it does sound 323 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: as if you did have self. Yeah. 324 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: No, no, but I'll tell you what though, I'll tell 325 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: you what. I did not call them out. I remained silent. 326 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: I intrue, know me, know me, know me. 327 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: What would you like to say to them today? Let's 328 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: let's talk to them now, the seven and eight year 329 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: old buckaroos. Yes, you are loping downstairs. 330 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: I'm loping downstairs, you know, innocent. 331 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: Breeze on your belly. 332 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, on my belly, pure innocence. Imagine pure and summer, 333 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: no less sunny, sky's not a cloud. And I'm loping 334 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: mm hmm, maybe humming a jaunty tune. Yeah. And then 335 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: I come down and then my world just shattered within moments. 336 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: So you're taking big steps downstairs like our crumbs, mister. 337 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: Natural, exactly, and I sort of look like our krumbs, 338 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: mister natural. One thing I forgot to mention is that 339 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: I have an enormous beard. 340 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: Okay, but that's not enough to like function as a shirt. 341 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 3: Not at all. 342 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: No, No, And I noticed the impact of this moment 343 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: is such that you are at and we're not recording 344 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: this for video, right, Kevin, So I do have to 345 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: describe what's okay? So no, me is continuing to wear 346 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: a shirt even to this day. 347 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, to this day, no one has ever seen me 348 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: without a shirt on. 349 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: She's been shirt pilled. 350 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: Such has been such has been the impact? 351 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: And can we speak can we address them directly in 352 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: this moment? Can we talk to can we tell them 353 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: their names? 354 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: I don't know their names. They were like random neighbor kids. 355 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 3: It wasn't my house, it was my grandparents' house. They 356 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: moved from their. 357 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: Like some I've never met a random kid. 358 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: Actually, they're so random. 359 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: That's interesting that you've met a random kid. Yeah, because 360 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: to me, no, no child is random except Honey Boo Boo. 361 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: No, she's definitely not random. 362 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: Cartman, I said, accept except Honey Booboo and cartmen. They 363 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: actually can be extremely random. 364 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: So they are random because very intentional, very intentional. 365 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's be well just for the listeners, just 366 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: for the listeners, since they don't they can't picture what 367 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: a random kid is, and like, why don't you speak 368 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: to Cartman and Honey Boo boot right now? And why 369 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: don't you why don't you tell them, no me, what 370 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 2: you wish you'd said that day, and we'll say if 371 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: we can, we can reclaim our power a little bit. Here. 372 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: Who's this? 373 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 3: Uh? Oh, this is Gingy. This is my cat, one 374 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: of my kids. 375 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh, she created weeds? 376 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: If that's Jen. 377 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: But helped to speak directly to ging. 378 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, actually interestingly to find out because Ginger 379 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: reminds me. I often say that Ginger reminds me of 380 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: my late grandfather, the same grandfather who whose house I 381 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: was at when this all went down. 382 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: Mmm. Wow, and your grandfather has come now to hear 383 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: the story and to see you. 384 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: He's really proud. 385 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: He's really proud childhood. 386 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, probe the situation here. It seems like it's your 387 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: grandfather's house. Had he not laid out suggested clothing for 388 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: you to wear? 389 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: I wasn't like the host all day, and all my 390 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 3: parents were there, we were visiting. I was probably I 391 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: don't know. 392 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: The kind of nice to lay out right right? So 393 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: you guess you know, just I have decent manners. I 394 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: don't know if I right. I don't have milk manners. 395 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: I have real manners. And and what I do is 396 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: I lay out a wardrobe for each guest. What I'd 397 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: like to see them in. What I think they'll be 398 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: most comfortable in. What the neighborhood children will be least 399 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: likely to insult them in. So you may want to 400 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: talk to Gingy and say, hey Grandpa, hey Papa, you 401 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: let me know, and I wish you'd put out. 402 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: Some little slipper. 403 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: What's Gingy going to town on over there? 404 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So, so Gingy had this episode had the video 405 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: option for your listeners, they would see Gingy's head bobbing 406 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 3: just up and down, just out of frame into. 407 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: Can we say that Ginger is a cat? Have we 408 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: said is a cat? 409 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 3: So I lowered my screen a little bit, my computer 410 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: screen so you can see that Gingy is in fact 411 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 3: standing at his. 412 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Bowl that has given Garfield. 413 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: It's deep. Yeah, it's really giving Garfield. He is eating. 414 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: That's his dry food. He gets wet and yeah, look 415 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: he's very Oh did my recorder catch that meal? 416 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: Kevin will have to tell us later. Yeah, has been 417 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: to the vet. 418 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: Oh are you talking about his balls? 419 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: Well no, I was just gonna say it seems like 420 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: Ginger's got that dog in him, and. 421 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: That's something that of course that can either be performed 422 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: by that or extracted if need be right. 423 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and. 424 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: So either way, it's relevant whether or not's been to 425 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: the vet. Ginger's been to the that you know. 426 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: If they Ginger has been to the vet M and. 427 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: Did they locate that dog in them? 428 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: They have as of yet been unable to quote unquote 429 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: locate that dog in him, but we're hopeful that that 430 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: might happen. 431 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: Thoughts and prayers, Thoughts and. 432 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Prayers, Gingy, can we speak to the little neighbor kids please? 433 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: I just we and yeah, the one the fear in 434 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: your eyes, and lets me know how important it is 435 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: to do it. 436 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: That you've been. It's just such a thing. 437 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I know it's well for you, it's for you. 438 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: It's nothing for me. It's a whole lot of shame 439 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: wrapped up in that, you know, supposedly simple story. There's 440 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: so much history. 441 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: There, so much Hey you boys, Hey boys. 442 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, here we go, here go, okay, hey boys, 443 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: Hey know me? Oh wow, oh oh that's good. I 444 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: mean we didn't know each other's names, so I don't 445 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: know if that's like realistic. 446 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: Per se, but car, but it's cartman. Yeah, it's Cartman, 447 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: and you were doing all kinds of weird stuff like this. 448 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 3: Hey, boys, stop laughing. Everybody has boobs. 449 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: I think okay, all right, well I think we can. 450 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: I think we can killed the cross, know me. It's 451 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: just they're gonna rip you apart on the stand. 452 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 3: You don't want to well, so maybe okay, so excuse 453 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: me what you're saying here that in fact I was 454 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: right to stay silent, right and to put get that change. 455 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: I think there must be something between everybody has boobs 456 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: saying nothing at all. 457 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: I think there's nothing in between. Those are the two options. 458 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: But you know what, you might be right, But it 459 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: was hard for me to find my words. It was 460 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: hard for me to speak out. You know, growing up 461 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: isn't easy, and I have been. 462 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: This almost happens in spite of you. 463 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: Insanely easy. Yeah, literally everyone has done it. Yeah you 464 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: you can't not. 465 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: Do it right? Right? 466 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: Okay? This is giving me a whole new perspective on things. 467 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: You want to share? 468 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 3: What it is, just that it's easy to grow up, 469 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: and it's also easy to speak out. And I think 470 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: I've learned, you know, the lesson has been late in 471 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 3: coming memory. 472 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: This memory was horrible exactly like you said it was. 473 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the next memory. 474 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: Let's get to another memory, because it does feel like 475 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: you have given what your options were now that we 476 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: know what you would have said if you spoke, you 477 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: actually did make the right call, were able to protect 478 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: your dignity a little bit, and I think that you 479 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: had some self respect there. It's certainly not that little 480 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 2: girl is not the one who said yes to an 481 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: eleven thirty PM podcast, and knowing Hayes would be late 482 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: as well. If she's not, I didn't notice would be late. 483 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: EXU know me, you knew Hayes would be late. 484 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: If that little girl isn't willing to respond to what 485 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: effectively at the time was a podcast these. 486 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: Two because they basically were saying. 487 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: Two neighbor boys, maybe nasty boys, yeah, teasing, and she 488 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: just is quiet and goes back upstairs. That's kind of 489 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the equivalent of not responding and except texting eleven hours 490 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: later saying I'm scleep. 491 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, right, which is what you should have done. 492 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: You ghosted them. 493 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: You know what, This is actually really good. It's occurring 494 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: to me right now because actually I have usually I 495 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 3: have therapy on Fridays, and but are you okay? Uh, 496 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: you mean in life? I mean no, but yeah, yeah, 497 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: but on Fridays usually I have therapy, but today this week, 498 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: my therapist is out of town. So in fact, this 499 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: is coming into sub for therapy. 500 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: I mean, your therapist is not coming back. I think 501 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: that's cute that they're out of town. They are not 502 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: coming back. 503 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: So is it like, is it one of those things 504 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: where it's suddenly revealed that you like kidnap? Is it 505 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: like that you put the lotion in the basket? Situation? 506 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: They move, they moved. They do not want you to 507 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: have their new contact information, and. 508 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: They have moved because they know that if I did 509 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: have the contact information, I would then like double try 510 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: to striple. 511 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: Texts, just try to receive therapy. 512 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: Much like Hayes not responding, they also would not respond. 513 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah that that yeah, I guess that's pretty similar. Yeah. 514 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: Can we advance to the next memory? Another memory? Second memory? 515 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: How many memories are we gonna? I mean. 516 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: Done after. 517 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to think another memory. I mean I'm 518 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: not I'm not I'm not giving this like these memories 519 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: are as you say, random, much like Eric Cartman. This 520 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: is a memory from I believe first grade. I was 521 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: in school as children are, and I had we had 522 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: like these wooden desks. 523 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: It's interesting, you say, we m. 524 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: The students in the class. We all had the same desk. 525 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: I int. I know what you mean, and I know 526 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: what happened. So go on. 527 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: I drew all over mine like whatever I had hand 528 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: you like crayons, like markers, like pens, like I think 529 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: a pen, and you know, it had that satisfying thing 530 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: where like the nib of the pen would sort of 531 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: like go into the wood, you know, and so it 532 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: would effectively be a bit of a scar. It's an etching. 533 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 1: And you've left a few scars with your with your 534 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: pen since then, haven't you. Oh, I really have your profession, 535 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: haven't you. 536 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, this is when we first discovered ourselves, 537 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: isn't it. Pens taken quite a few victims, and it's time. 538 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's my way of giving back, perhaps 539 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: getting back at is. 540 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 541 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: Anyway, I drew. I drew on the dusk like I 542 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: really went to town. Like I remember one of the things, okay, yeah, 543 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: one thing I remember exactly. I remember drawing a large 544 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: flower in purple marker that had its pedals were like 545 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: sort of cross hatched, I guess, but it was large, okay. 546 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: And one Friday, one Friday, the school would let out 547 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: earlier than the other days. It would be like twelve thirty, 548 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: so you could, yeah exactly. But you know, interestingly, that 549 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: day my therapist said, I'm out of town. So I 550 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: stepped out of the class just like what happened. Now 551 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: there I was innocent, innocence personified, clear blue sky. 552 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 5: You know. 553 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: Memory of like the kids making fun of me, like 554 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: whatever four years hit prior, like for not wearing a shirt, 555 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 3: all of that forgotten once again, slate wipe clean. I'm 556 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: strutting out of the classroom when suddenly a maintenance guy, 557 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: a guy who was like in charge of, like yeah whatever, 558 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 3: the school equipment and like keeping things neat and tidy. 559 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: Human being doing their job. Just just say, just say, 560 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: human person, just the person. Oh so I see this, 561 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is a maintenance man. 562 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: He was the maintenance man. 563 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, he wasn't. He was actually a human. 564 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: He was a human being. 565 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: He the same dreams as he can't comes up to. 566 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 2: Me, maybe even bigger of dreams. 567 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: And he says, certainly bigger he was also bigger physically. 568 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: He came up to me and he. 569 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: Said, hey, hey, you there, enormous hey, he. 570 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: Says to me, I see what you're doing there. You 571 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 3: drew all over your desk. You're gonna have to get 572 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: it all off, wipe it all off, because that's like 573 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 3: school property, and you're like ruining school property. 574 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 2: I want you to clean after the mess you made. 575 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: Fear, shame, the whole, accountability, accountability, that the whole. 576 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 2: It's pretty young to become an adult. 577 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: It came I was adulting. Let's face it. I was 578 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 3: confronted with a burden of adulting that. 579 00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: This man, human man, right, yeah, tasked to prefer form maintenance. 580 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And yet he dismantled you. 581 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 3: He absolutely at at you know, it's one. 582 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: Single moment and then off with your tongue. You didn't 583 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: have to do it like that. He wasn't asking for that. 584 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 5: No. 585 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: I think he probably would have given you a spray 586 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 2: bottle if you asked us. 587 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: It was a warning. It was a warning, and he 588 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: said like, I'm gonna like, I don't remember what exactly 589 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 3: details a little bit hazy, repressed due to deep trauma. 590 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 3: He said, I'm gonna tell talk to the future. I'm 591 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: gonna okay, cut to cut this fascinating story short. 592 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 2: I came home so Dracula, it gets pretty good. 593 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: Came home crying. Told my mom. I said, so, I says, 594 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: and my mom I says to it, I says to her, 595 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 3: missus dres, I said to her, I'm gonna I got 596 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: busted for like drawing on the table. I ruined everything. 597 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: I don't think like, I don't know what to do. Luckily, 598 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 3: there was like a parents evening at the school. I 599 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 3: don't remember exactly what it was, like meetings with the 600 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: teacher whatever. Just a week yeah, but like more of 601 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: a thing where like all the all the parents come 602 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 3: to class together and like each sits at the an 603 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: open house kind of maybe. 604 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 605 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: Because and my mother, God bless her, I'll never forget it. 606 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: She said to me. I'll take a washcloth and I'll 607 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: bring it to school and I'll wipe I'll help you 608 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 3: wipe the desk off. Now, in my mind I know 609 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 3: that I have made deep inroads into that wood with 610 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 3: the of a pen. 611 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 612 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: That ship is not coming off. 613 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Mom, you idiot, you b but no, but no 614 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: at all, I know but but she calm me, and 615 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: she was like. 616 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: It's okay, it's it's okay. Basically she was like that whatever. 617 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: But you know it's not. 618 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: I knew it was not. She's wrong, mother, But she 619 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: calmed me down enough, and and you know, she might 620 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: have said, I'll talk to the teacher. I'll explain you 621 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 3: won't do it again, Explain what you might have stayed case. 622 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like everyone, everyone's on the same page about that. 623 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 3: You're a father, think about your baby. 624 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: My baby, know me, the idea that my baby would 625 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: ever ever find herself in this situation like we were. 626 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: She's she's six months. We are well past the point 627 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: of right creaning her to avoid a situation. 628 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, anyway, she she said. 629 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 2: Okay, she wears clothes as well. By the way, just 630 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: just so in case your web, get that out of 631 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: the way, just before you close. 632 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 3: No pen, the desks are clean. At the Devenport house. 633 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: She's got a pen, but she's just using it. 634 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she's using it to write, m M. 635 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: She uses it to Yeah, she's already writing. 636 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 4: She's at the lampoon, I believe, junior lampoon programs. 637 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 2: She's matriculating lampoon junior. 638 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, so so then she went to the 639 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 3: she went to school. She said, yeah, I saw it 640 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 3: like she had to sit at my desk. She was like, 641 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 3: I wiped it down a little bit. Mom. I talked 642 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: to the teacher. 643 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 2: Sure, she has to have it right under her face. 644 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: Time and. 645 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 3: And she calmed me down and nothing. Let me flowers 646 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 3: haze and sean, it was a beautiful flower. Excuse me. 647 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 3: Nothing ever came to pass. The maintenance man didn't. Nothing happened. 648 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: It was all fine. Now make of the story what 649 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: you will. But the shame and fear of the story, 650 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: the shame and fear that struck me. 651 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: Can Chef Kevin make of the story because the episode 652 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: does have to be released. What were you saying? There's 653 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: a face, a. 654 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Lot of shame, a lot of fear, a whole lot 655 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 3: of shame and fear. Yes, hey, they're gonna be mad 656 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: at me. 657 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 5: Hey, you don't deserve that. Hey, you don't deserve that. Hey, 658 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 5: look at me. Tell me you don't deserve to feel 659 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 5: that way. 660 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: The good stop, Hey, knock at off. 661 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 4: When you would talk to your therapist about sham and fear, 662 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 4: did they ever respond? 663 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 3: Uh? 664 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 2: She went there. 665 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah all the time. 666 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so she's going there, but no me. So, like 667 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: you said, the main man was not allowed to do 668 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: any punishment. 669 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 3: No, he was a random I know. 670 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: He was a human. It was a beautiful human, but 671 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: he was random to you. 672 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 3: His authority was limited educationally speaking. 673 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: Okay, but nothing happened you. You got no punishment, I'll say, 674 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: from and did you get a punishment from parading around 675 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: with without a stitch on? 676 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: From your no? From your belt up? 677 00:41:59,800 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 3: No? 678 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't. No, and you've done great. You're a 679 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: writer for the New Yorker and the New Yorker Magazine online. 680 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 2: Yes, both both. 681 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 3: The New Yorker and the New Yorker Magazine Online. 682 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: Yes, and so same time. Know me in the same way, 683 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: if you say no. 684 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: To a podcast record at eleven thirty pm, you will 685 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 1: not get in trouble. 686 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 2: And if you. 687 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: Just turned off your camera right now and went to 688 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: go honkshoe, you will not get in trouble. 689 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 2: It is okay. It just it is okay to just 690 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: leave draw on the desk of life. Know me, say 691 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: no to the podcast go honk shoe Wow, let your 692 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 2: mom t think a washcloth will fix it? Turn it off. 693 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 4: It's the end of goodwill hunting. 694 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 2: Hmmm. Yeah, every time I open up the zoom window. 695 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 3: It's the end of goodwill hunting. 696 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: He's driving the car. Mm hmm. Get in the car 697 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: and drive turn it off, Son of a bitch. She 698 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 2: stole my line Byeywood Hamburg.