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Speaker 1: We're just gonna get right into it. What the actual

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Speaker 1: I've I've got a beer already go And I cannot

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Speaker 1: continue to watch this team play. It's crash out season.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my fucking mind watching this team play.

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Speaker 1: They've given up. There's no effort. The pitching sucks, the

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Speaker 1: hitting can only hit at one inning at a time.

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Speaker 1: As soon as the fifth inning comes around, the METSA, here,

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Speaker 1: take the fucking game.

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Speaker 2: You want to win. We have no interest.

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Speaker 1: Carlos Mendoza is sleeping, He's making every wrong decision possible.

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Speaker 1: That nobody's stepping up. Nobody, nobody is stepping up.

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Speaker 2: On this team.

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Speaker 1: There's no leadership, there is no vision, there is no plan.

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Speaker 1: Everybody from top to bottom is a fucking failure and

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Speaker 1: tired of it. I can't watch this team anymore. They're horrible,

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Speaker 1: No horrible sucks. This was the This series kind of

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Speaker 2: Now it's over. Season, season's over. It's done.

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Speaker 1: They don't you make playoffs, are gonna get fucking embarrassed

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Speaker 2: This team sucks.

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Speaker 1: It's gone to the point where you probably have to

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Speaker 1: now you kind of be like, I've seen you fail

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, fucking other guys or not the

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Speaker 2: Now it has changed.

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Speaker 1: Now it has changed, And there was never actually a

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Speaker 1: what the fucking actually be going on right now? Like,

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Speaker 1: how many fucking sweepers have to hit the guy's top

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Speaker 1: And then you actually have the shot, you think, Okay, finally,

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Speaker 1: all right, we woke up, something actually happened in the

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you get no fucking base runners for

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Speaker 1: eight consecutive innings. How on earth do you go through

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Speaker 1: How the fuck do you do that? I can tell

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Speaker 1: you because Eric Shavas fucking let everybody in baseball know, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I told our hitters we need to attack fastballs more.

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Speaker 2: He let the entire league know he is playing. That

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody in the baseball world be as

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Speaker 1: as Eric Shavaz again the DSHA article from this season.

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Speaker 2: Lindor had to call him out.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you were last season, I know, but before

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Speaker 1: How the fuck does he keep his job? Imagine, James,

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Speaker 1: imagine you you got hired, right, Imagine if you got

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Speaker 1: hired to do the Mess Up podcast but every week

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Speaker 2: You still got the check. Imagine How the fuck do

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Speaker 1: This guy is a bum, He's a loser. He cannot

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Speaker 1: Antonine Richardson love Antoine Richardson, Well, you're not keeping one guy,

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Speaker 1: letting the rest of them go. Ven he's the new manager,

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that the Mets kind of broadcasted during

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Speaker 1: Finally that we find, Hey, the switch flip. We're now

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Speaker 1: So they told the world. Steve Gelps had the report

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Speaker 1: People like the Mets figure it out. All you have

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Speaker 1: Fucking post anything on Instagram, I might make a fucking

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Speaker 1: I knew I was right. He's posting on his fucking Instagram.

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Speaker 1: fucking look at the internet. Take a fucking look. This

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Speaker 1: Even let's pretend that the problem isn't Eric Schavz telling

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Speaker 2: They stopped listening again.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna lead them to a World Series the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Idol Kemp comes up and he hits a fly ball

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Speaker 1: There's no dogs on this team right now, zero besides

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Speaker 1: now seen a complete season of dogship from Carlos Mendoza

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Speaker 1: in about half a season of good, right, I mean,

435
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Speaker 1: we've forget how bad it was at the start. We

436
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,800
Speaker 1: use as like a remember how bad it was and

437
00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,879
Speaker 1: how good it turned. We've got a lot of like

438
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Speaker 1: the worst team in baseball out of this team in

439
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Speaker 1: two years.

440
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Speaker 2: How's that possible?

441
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,639
Speaker 1: I know we also have a seventy five game stretch

442
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,399
Speaker 1: now where it was worse than the first seventy five

443
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Speaker 1: last year.

444
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Speaker 2: It's it's crazy. At some point, this is whose fault

445
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,639
Speaker 2: is this? It's gotta be somebody's.

446
00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,960
Speaker 1: It's never it doesn't have to be somebody's fault. I

447
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,119
Speaker 1: think it's it's gotta be a lot of people's fault.

448
00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,879
Speaker 1: Then it's a part of it. I mean, it comes

449
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,680
Speaker 1: down to the room. But also is the fact that

450
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,520
Speaker 1: this team really just doesn't have those veterans. There's a

451
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Speaker 1: lot of guys who are in the middle of veteran ship.

452
00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,520
Speaker 1: Like we know who Facisco Lindoor is the leader. He's

453
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Speaker 1: more of like the quiet cop than his lead by example,

454
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Speaker 1: that's the guy he is once so though while he's

455
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Speaker 1: only twenty six years old, he's also kind of quia

456
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Speaker 1: cop as these by example, He's not exactly a vocal guy,

457
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,199
Speaker 1: and he still knew and he still knew, so it's

458
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Speaker 1: kind of hard to be the new guy who's when

459
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Speaker 1: you're never been vocal allowed before just beat that all

460
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, Pete Nemo McNeil. They're not really these

461
00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,239
Speaker 1: crazy row Row leaders either, Like that's just not if

462
00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,200
Speaker 1: his team kind of doesn't really have that central force

463
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Speaker 1: in the middle. We keep his sayings over and over again.

464
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Speaker 1: It kind of leads me to the fact that if

465
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Speaker 1: this team does miss the playoffs, I think it's a

466
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Speaker 1: guarantee that Carls Mendez has gone. Truthfully, I think Carls

467
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Speaker 1: Mendoza's gone. I think the entire coaching staff besides Antoine Richardson,

468
00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,320
Speaker 1: is gone. I don't think Hefner stays either. I don't

469
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Speaker 1: think so either, But I don't think we higher than

470
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Speaker 1: two seconds. Oh yeah, No, he'll He'll be a fantastic

471
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Speaker 1: pitching coach out in Minnesota. They'll hire him excently, they'll

472
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,480
Speaker 1: bring him back somewhat the Astros. Someone will be smart

473
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Speaker 1: enough to hire him, obviously. But as much as we've

474
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Speaker 1: praised Jeremy Hefner, the pitching has been fucking bad.

475
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Speaker 2: He has gotten almost nothing out of the guys this year, for.

476
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Speaker 1: Sure, But also, what can you do when David Peterson

477
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Speaker 1: can't hit the spot for a month straight? Yeah, but

478
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Speaker 1: he then also had twenty three swing whiffs tonight or whatever,

479
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,119
Speaker 1: nineteen whiffs, swings and misses.

480
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Speaker 2: So it's like that was also.

481
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Speaker 1: Another part of this where it felt like Carlos Mendoza

482
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Speaker 1: was managing tight taking out Peterson after that fifth inning

483
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Speaker 1: eighty six pitches Rightmanos, who sucks, I'm saying, with a

484
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Speaker 1: bunch of rities coming off the bottom of the oither.

485
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Speaker 1: So it did feel like, again that was like playoff managing.

486
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Speaker 1: But then there wasn't playoff managing because you kept a

487
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Speaker 1: Kunya in. He took another at bad after that, Sanger

488
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,440
Speaker 1: took another bad after that. But Neil's still in center fields,

489
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Speaker 1: like it's just taking another bit, but there's just there's

490
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,920
Speaker 1: there's these complete I don't want to like, is it

491
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,880
Speaker 1: lapses of concentration of judgment?

492
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Speaker 2: I don't know which one's worse. If you're trying to

493
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Speaker 2: evaluate the manager.

494
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Speaker 1: This is like what Tony LaRussa was doing when he

495
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 1: was like literally falling asleep on the bench. He's just

496
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 1: the Mets as as a whole. This team feels unprepared

497
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 1: day in and.

498
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 2: Day out to play a full baseball game. Is that

499
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Speaker 2: fair decide? Kind of?

500
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Speaker 1: And also is at the same time, it's like a

501
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 1: lot of the things that we thought could we hope

502
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 1: to have gotten right, they're just not going right with

503
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Speaker 1: these last two months. Like we come back to the

504
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: point all the time that Sangam and I just have

505
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 1: not been there.

506
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Speaker 2: They were the guys disappeared enough.

507
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Speaker 1: We knew and we were going through the first half

508
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: mostly smoking mirrors in this pitching staff that we needed

509
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Speaker 1: those two guys to come back be healthy. They had

510
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Speaker 1: their time off, they were covering from injuries, serious injury

511
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Speaker 1: in Manya's case.

512
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Speaker 2: We're like, all right, if.

513
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Speaker 1: You guys can literally not even be one two, if

514
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Speaker 1: you guys can be with you would consider it. Two three,

515
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: you could stabilize this entire thing. There'll be no issue

516
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: behind any of this didn't happen at all. So then

517
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Speaker 1: all the median expectations for the rest of these guys

518
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 1: goes out the window because the top is gone. Now

519
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys you kind of shot for

520
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: these fifty percent of incomes. You get worse than that.

521
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 1: Everything trickles and trickles and trickles, And now you have

522
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: this rotation that is so so saved by these fucking

523
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 1: kids that he's ridiculous how how much they've been exposed.

524
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,479
Speaker 1: If these guys didn't come up, we'd be already out

525
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Speaker 1: of the playoff spot. And David Pearson didn't even really

526
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: pitch bad tonight. You just didn't, well.

527
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 2: Exactly, Dan pitch bad. It wasn't great. But this is

528
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Speaker 2: also Dave Peterson start that you sign up for.

529
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Speaker 1: This is if you would have told us that David

530
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Speaker 1: Peterson gives us this kind of start on September eleventh,

531
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Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five. But the motivating's ever had,

532
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Speaker 1: I would have shook your hand and said deal against

533
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Speaker 1: the Phillies in Philadelphia, like I'm not blaming David Peterson again.

534
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Speaker 1: This is actually the best start David Peters was made

535
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Speaker 1: in a month. Yes, it's just the fact that there's

536
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Speaker 1: no one else to pick him up. Rigueer comes the

537
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Speaker 1: game against the bottom of the other. I was even

538
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Speaker 1: surprised came in against the bottom of the other. I

539
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: texted you that, yeah. And then but then also, if

540
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Speaker 1: there's a if there's a guy in first and one out,

541
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Speaker 1: if there's a real center fielder in there, this probably

542
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: looks a lot different as well.

543
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Speaker 2: Like those worse Those are a.

544
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Speaker 1: Few bat balls that you kind of lost lost your

545
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 1: because they're playing guys center field.

546
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Speaker 2: It's not as centerfielder.

547
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Speaker 1: And they took an extra bit. They took an extra

548
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Speaker 1: base on the Castianos. It's crazy that he got that

549
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: double on that extra base. Mets couldn't score from first

550
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: base on a ball in the right field corner against

551
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 1: the Castos, couldn't score there.

552
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 2: They took the extra base there, the balls in the corner.

553
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: Brandimos the slowest person in the world of getting to

554
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: the ball in left field. He again, he runs like

555
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: he's in fucking Madden. It's like it's like his acceleration rating.

556
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: It's like it takes him three minutes to get going.

557
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: Once it gets moving, he's okay, But I don't. They

558
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: can't make any throws, they can't make any plays. The

559
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: Mets do nothing that a good baseball team does. And again,

560
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: like you look back at this, it's the same group

561
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Speaker 1: of guys like that.

562
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: No, that's what it is.

563
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: These guys aren't necessarily bad players, but it's just like that.

564
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: The last home grown bunch just never was able to

565
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: like get over the hump without Jose Glasis j J.

566
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Speaker 1: Martinz as stupid as that sounds like, I don't know,

567
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: is that is that us being unfair to them? Also,

568
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: at the same time, we talked about heading into the season,

569
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Speaker 1: going all the way back before the hot streaks start season,

570
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: that got our heads kind of crazy that we thought

571
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: the world was a little bit higher in the Mets

572
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: than they actually were. We were really nervous about the

573
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: pitching heading of this season. We thought the lineup was

574
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Speaker 1: going to be really good and complete and carry them.

575
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: But between the pitching and the bullpen, we kind of

576
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: were trusting like some of the smoking marus from last year.

577
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: They guess for this year.

578
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Speaker 1: They got us through a good chunk of this year,

579
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Speaker 1: the good half and the guys that were supposed to

580
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: be good will to being the guys who couldn't be good. Besides,

581
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: like Ed's not including him in this conversation because he's

582
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: so basically the.

583
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: Best closer in baseball.

584
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Speaker 1: And at the same time, we've seen now at the

585
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: end of the year, these young pitchers and even look

586
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: somewhat the guys like Baby and Viento's who were like

587
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: the next the next group of the hitlers, the guys

588
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: who've been developed by this team be the ones to

589
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: kind of complete kind of pull this thing back together

590
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: for a little bit.

591
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Speaker 2: Yep. And you just wish the timing on that was

592
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: a little bit better, you know. No, the best can't

593
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: time anything up perfectly right now.

594
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: It's like this guy's good, this guy's bad, this guy's good,

595
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: this guy's bad.

596
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: I was reading off to you.

597
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Speaker 1: I texted you, like the Mets numbers in the seventh

598
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: through ninth inning and like Lindor has a thousand ops,

599
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: Wan Soto has a thousand ops. Petere Lonzo has like

600
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 1: a thousand ops. And yet this team can't score any

601
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: runs at the end of the game. It's crazy, No,

602
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: and it's just you You kind of hope that when

603
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: you have these veteran teams think they have certain said

604
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: this explicitly in one of his press conferences in the offseason,

605
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: it's like the young guys give the spark and keep

606
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: like the old guys going basically, and you just feel

607
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: like this team's like one year away from actually having

608
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: like the real youth movement, and this was kind of

609
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: a bridgeier to that, And so you figure it would

610
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: be a good bridge year because you reside a bunch

611
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: of you veterans you pulled in fucking wants over.

612
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: You're like, you're just the five best players on the planet.

613
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: You could drag your feet to eighty seven wins, still

614
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, still have a good enough team to

615
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of fuck around the playoff series like last year.

616
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Speaker 1: But it's just not worked out that way because for

617
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: some reason, there's these massive lapses of focus and concentration

618
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: that happened to this team every two three weeks to

619
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: where they have these these fucking you know, it's and

620
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: it kind of like you see it in individual games

621
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Speaker 1: and you see it in stretches in general, because we

622
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Speaker 1: have these innings that just fucking spiral and they can't stop.

623
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Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it.

624
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: And then also you have these moments in this in

625
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: the schedule where they spiral and they can't stop. It's

626
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: like you like to stop. The bleeding is so important.

627
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Tazzi was talking about this in the post game show

628
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: the other day. It's like it's so big for the teams,

629
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: like get out of there, like get some momentum back,

630
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: and then you give up runs, says Boo. Zarla comes

631
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: out the next ending has a temp bichonning and screaming

632
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: to the crowd. It's like you have no chance to

633
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: get enough jury to come back to this game. And

634
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: then that goes on and on. Snowballs and snowballs. We've

635
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: seen this five six different times this season. Yeah, every

636
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: time they hit the road. This team is incapable of

637
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 1: playing outside of city Field. In city field, they've been

638
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: good this year, by the grace of God.

639
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

640
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how they win baseball games there, because

641
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: when we watch them on the road, that's that's a

642
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: team that competes with the Rockies and White Sox for

643
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: the worst of baseball.

644
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: It's it's very, very bad.

645
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: And again, like this whole thing, somehow is underscore by

646
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: the fact that we were so good in April and

647
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: May times that do not matter right now, that we

648
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: still have a coin flip chance to make the playoffs,

649
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: but still technically in the playoffs, which is insane to say,

650
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: because it feels like this team has I mean, they

651
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: haven't played good baseball since May, right, That's when we

652
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: say it, and we say it.

653
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: All the time. This is Rob Manford's basterdization of the game.

654
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: If a team that has been as bad as the

655
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: Mets for this long can make the playoffs, it's a

656
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: problem your playoffs system.

657
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 2: There really is they have. They do not deserve to

658
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: be in the postseason.

659
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: Actually suck. This is terrible when when the clock strikes October,

660
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: the Mets should be home. Eric Chavas can go on

661
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: his real vacation and never come back. He can go

662
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: hang out in kan Kun for the entire offseason. Hope

663
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: he lives there forever, I'll buy his house, he can

664
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: stay there. I don't want him ever fucking back in

665
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Queens again unless we're playing against him. And I'll tell

666
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: you what, the Mets pitchers better throw fucking fastballs down

667
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: the middle because I'm telling you the other team won't

668
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: be ready for it because he's an idiot and a moron.

669
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a thing where if Derek Chavis, I

670
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know the next job he gets.

671
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Chili Davis situation where it's

672
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: like you leave and you never hear from Is that

673
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: not damning? No, it is, but that, But that's what

674
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's the difference between a guy like After

675
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: a guy like Java. I think it was a really

676
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: good chance neither of here. Next year, Jeremy hefform will

677
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: be unemployed for.

678
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: As long as he wants to be unemployed. That's fair,

679
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: that's a good point.

680
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: If he wants to do like six months with his family,

681
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: he'll do that. Then he'll get a job doing doing

682
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: pitching infrastructure for an organization. They'll be damn lucky to

683
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: have him. I feel fucking dirty being angry at him too,

684
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: But the pitching is so ass recently. I'm no I

685
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: know man, that that helf ne jury is gonna hit

686
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: next season when he's not the pitcher coach anymore.

687
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna get shit thrown at you. I'll defend him

688
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: to the I die. But again it's like it's also

689
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: funny too.

690
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: The trucksapost this whole thing, like we we're gonna have

691
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: the Prospects video coming out from our new channels called

692
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: the Winds Up, and like there's you could just feel

693
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: the heat watching watching these pictures come up, like we've

694
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: we've hit a level now in the organization, the system

695
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 1: that I'm sure as many thanks to him. But at

696
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: the same time, it's like we it's like I said before,

697
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: it's like you time this just off. If Steve Cohane

698
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: could have bought this team one year sooner, if David

699
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: Sterns could have gotten down that contract with the Brewers

700
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: one year earlier and put this infrastructure in place, because

701
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: this was these last two years have felt like fucking nonsense.

702
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: And all the time, I think because of Steve Cohen,

703
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: we try to compare this team because he said it

704
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: to like the Dodgers right when they got bought and sold,

705
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: and you kind of felt like it was a similar

706
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: concept than mindset in those first Dodgers years. They're like,

707
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: we're just gonna figure some shit out, so we actually

708
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: get this thing gole in the right direction.

709
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: They just had Clinton Kershaw.

710
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: That's the difference, which is kind of like, you know,

711
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: getting ready for this, if we still just had Jacob deGrom,

712
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: like that would kind of be the same thing. But

713
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: that's like the that's like the difference between the two

714
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: errors of these tams. Like look at the like twenty

715
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: thirteen Dodgers roster, Carl Crawford, all these fucking na sense

716
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: players and that squad.

717
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what it took.

718
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: It took getting rid of those fucking guys for the

719
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: Dodgers to wake up.

720
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: That's actually be good.

721
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: But more than getting rid of those guys, it took

722
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: for everything to actually build to the spot where you

723
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: could utilize everyone's talents, the best abilities, cheap players.

724
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: Like all that shit.

725
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Hindler mirrs at a ten to forty ops on the

726
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen Dodgers. He also up peak nine to twenty five.

727
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: Adrian Gonzalez stumbled into an eight hundred ops. Jan Your

728
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: Rebay won sixteen ops plus. God, I wish Wanda Rebe

729
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: was on this team. We said the trade deadline, who

730
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: is the one your Reba that we can put on

731
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: this team. He couldn't find one.

732
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, who would it be?

733
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: Who got traded this deadline, that would be the one

734
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: your rebate. Nobody, I guess I don't know who is

735
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: one your Rebay, just as the many wand rebas in

736
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: baseball anymore, because he was one of a kind. Because

737
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: you had to do the universal dach and you get

738
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: to kill that genre of player, the pinch Heather is dead.

739
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: Wander Rebet was a great fielder. You watch your mouth.

740
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: DH didn't kill one your Rebay.

741
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: No.

742
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: When he was in his twenties, he was a great fielder,

743
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: but not always a great fielder. That's always a great fielder.

744
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Never never dropped for a second. He was very smooth

745
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: with the glove. You've seen his hands. It's fast, Luiski

746
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: or meck.

747
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah right, there's nothing to do without saying.

748
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: It was about to pick that the DH killed the

749
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: pinch hither and that was a guy like jan reebe

750
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: hung around as long.

751
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: As he did.

752
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: Now fifteen to do a little bit of really something

753
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: really really toxic. Oh boy, do I love watching the

754
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: San Diego Padres play baseball? And you know what the

755
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: common denominator is there? What I'll say, I glaciers.

756
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: Why do they have fun playing baseball?

757
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: The Mets actually actually real question besides like me bringing

758
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: up the toxic trait of this fan base.

759
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: Do you think the Mets enjoy playing baseball? Do they do?

760
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: They look like a team that one enjoys their job.

761
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: They they they're happy to be professional baseball players too,

762
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Do they like every Does.

763
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: Everybody get along on this team?

764
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think everybody gets along, and I think

765
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: so on all. I think the guys who clearly to

766
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: me from like a day to day standpoint, enjoy playing baseball.

767
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: I would say three, come to mind, you let me

768
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: know if I'm wrong here A four. I think so though,

769
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: Alonzo Bay the Alvas, I always see the Door bit,

770
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: but I think that Lindor recently we kind of see

771
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: whacked his and wanes and his energy. This is not

772
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: chastising Lindor in any way, but I do think that

773
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: this has been a trying season for for Cisco and Door.

774
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: It's not been a good season for him.

775
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: A week we have two weeks left of baseball, we

776
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: could say openly and honestly, and again this is the

777
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: best part about Fatisco in Door, we could say it

778
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: was a bad season. He's still gonna be a five

779
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: to one player. It hasn't been a very good season.

780
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: He's still gonna go thirty to thirty. It's really funny

781
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: to say these things, but like day in and day out,

782
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: you haven't felt because last year was the best season

783
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: of his career, you just haven't felt that same kind

784
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: of oop from him.

785
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: And like it's been, it's been weird.

786
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: As a SERI I think loves playing baseball too. I

787
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: think he's more of the mindset, like someone's gonna pay

788
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: me to do this a series, Like the golden retriever

789
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: of this team.

790
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: He really is. I can't believe how many people hate

791
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: Jose Siria online. I love Jose Series.

792
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: I totally can understand why they hate it. Yeah, so

793
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: it's so easy as batting average starts with a zero, well.

794
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: Played like nine names.

795
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if bating average starts with the zero,

796
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: there's a number after it that is in zero.

797
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: People hate that.

798
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: When those aheadline. The other day we're talking about series

799
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: coming back. In one of the press conferences, he was like,

800
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: it felt like that happened last year. Yeah, you know

801
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: where he got hurt. That was in Sacramento. Yeah, I

802
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: saw the video. It was like April eighteenth. It was

803
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: during the Masters.

804
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what else can I yell about. It's

805
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: been thirty minutes. What else can we say?

806
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Let me find let me find something to yell about. Here,

807
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna take a look and see if

808
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I can yell about this. Yeah, Greg Risoto sucked yesterday.

809
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Stannick cannot He can't throw another pitchure as in

810
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: New York Man.

811
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: He can't do it. He can't do it. James, I

812
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: don't know if.

813
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the best picture in a

814
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: pickup league in New York City right now, he's definitely

815
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: the best picture to pick up league.

816
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: If a pitcher and your pickup he throws on a

817
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: hundred miles now, ur you'll be looking around like, holy shit,

818
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: this guy should go to the bank.

819
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: I've seen the competitive softball. Those guys can smoke.

820
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: Ryan Standy. He's getting whiffs on nobody.

821
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: No, he actually got whiffsnack game. He also gave up

822
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: pits like that was the first time he did get hits.

823
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: It was just he hung one sweeper and that was it.

824
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: What else can I yell about? No? I mean, it's

825
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: just bad. It's a bad team right now, it's bad. Team.

826
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: It's poor, it was poorly constructive, it's poorly man it's bad.

827
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: David Suras is also a lot to blame for this,

828
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: Too's definitely allowed to blame.

829
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: But again, a lot of this comes back to just

830
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: the gods who should have been good.

831
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: They're not good enough.

832
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: Yep, right, Like if Manaiah and Sanga we're good, you

833
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: call up some of these prospects for like David Sarin's

834
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: a fucking genius. Yes, if Ryan Helsley doesn't suck the

835
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: most asked on Earth, they're like, wow, Well, the trade

836
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: deadline for the Mets. Who is hated more in Mets

837
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: World trade deadline acquisition, Darren Rough, Ryan Helsley.

838
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: It's going to wind up being Ryan Elsley. I think

839
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: it's pretty close.

840
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: We're going to remember the Ryan Helsley Mets experience twenty

841
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: twenty five for the rest of our.

842
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: Lives, saying, God, Hazer's bias one to the Cardinals and

843
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: they'll ruin him because any competent organization he turned into

844
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: a superstar guarantee.

845
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: There is a situation where everyone in baseball is just like,

846
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: how how could this have happened?

847
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: It's baffling. How bad. He is like, it doesn't make

848
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: any sense.

849
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: David Surren definitely stays awake at night being like, how

850
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: could this have happened?

851
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Jose Budo has a sub three ra

852
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 2: with the Giants. It's gonna be horrific if the Giants

853
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: overtake us with Drew Gilbert Jose Budo, Oh, they're going

854
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: to that's the team that's gonna overtake us. It's not

855
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: the Reds, it's the Giants. I mean, but we thankfully

856
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: we have the extra game on the Giants because it's

857
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: not gonna matter. It's not gonna matter.

858
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: It might matter. I mean, let's watch the team go home. Yeah,

859
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna I'm sick in the head.

860
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna watch every single pitch the rest of

861
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: the season because as soon as October first hits and

862
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: the Mets don't play baseball anymore, I'm gonna be longing

863
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: for for baseball again.

864
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: But the Mets have what how many games? Three? Six, nine?

865
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: They have fifteen games left? Gotta win what hey probably

866
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: got ten?

867
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: No, have you seen the Giants schedule? Know who the

868
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: Giants got? They got six games against.

869
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: The Dodgers, okay, but also Giants are probably.

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't know. I think you gotta win ten.

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Speaker 2: We're like ten. The Mets are in.

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Speaker 1: If the Mets win ten and they don't make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.

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00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: Ten ten, ten, ten, if.

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Speaker 1: The Mets win, If Mets go ten and five for

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00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, I'll I'll paint my bear chests.

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00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: For the first playoff game. Okay, that's shake hans, shake hands,

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00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: that's the deal.

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Speaker 1: If the if the messco tenantify the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: I will paint my bare chests to that first playoff game.

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00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: Please, please, baseball gods, this.

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00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: Is no way that How can you watch the team

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Speaker 1: play and think you're gonna play sixty six percent winning

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Speaker 2: I don't think they will.

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00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: I think I'm just telling you what it is, because

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00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: if they win eight, that means they're what eight and seven?

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Speaker 1: You think they're gonna play five hundred baseball, Yes, slightly

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Speaker 1: over five hundred baseball. But cherry shout cherry to Polo,

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00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how this team wins any games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like the Rangers Jaco de Grom's gonna throw

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Speaker 1: I think we're probably supposed to spotlight a Mets player.

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Speaker 2: Won't do it?

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Speaker 1: Refuse Jacob de Gram. Yes, my I think second favorite

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be the best part of the night. No,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be crushing.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be because I'm gonna see him single handedly

904
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Speaker 1: do what he did his entire time here, which is

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm not getting emotional. I'm not even kidding. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I totally can get emotional love Jacob de Gram. I'm yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know who Jacob Grom

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Speaker 2: Like that's it.

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Speaker 1: He's going to He's gonna go six innings, nine strikeouts,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna throw a no hitter tomorrow night. This is

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Speaker 1: He's he has not gotten consistent all year, and still

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Speaker 2: He's he's the shit. I wish he was on this team.

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Speaker 1: you guys this series, I'm gonna talk about first to

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Speaker 1: make sense. That's what we're gonna structure this Friday night.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be. It's gonna be a nice night in

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Speaker 2: the ballpark. I see you there. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna severely delay my NBC shifts to watch this game

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Speaker 1: because I can't. I can't miss this game. Jonah Toong,

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Speaker 1: Jacob de Grom, it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a moment. It's gonna be a moment

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Speaker 2: for Tong. De gram sounds pretty good. Same birthday, get

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Speaker 2: the fuck out of here. Look a up right now?

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00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: I can't be real, Jacob d Grom, Why are you

999
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Speaker 2: doing this to me? Why is Saturday Saturday four o'clock

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Speaker 2: Brandon Sprote versus Patrick Corbin? Who to nineteenth? Yeah? Right?

1001
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Speaker 2: Is that amazing? What? How can I not even possible?

1002
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: I want to I want to obliterate Patrick Corbin. I

1003
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: hope they can. I don't know if they will because

1004
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: you know what else? You know what's happening in this series?

1005
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: Because also Sunday Afternoon one for the matinee, Nolan McClain

1006
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: was Jacob Blatt. Two more fucking lefties, so no more

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Speaker 1: bred baity. This series lots of Luis on Helicunya. Thank god,

1008
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: you know you know what. I forget what I said

1009
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: at the beginning.

1010
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: I need to see more Louis on Helicunya in his

1011
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: slow swing that he takes and still doesn't make that

1012
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: much contact. No, it's horrible.

1013
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom, though he's he's great, But I'm gonna read

1014
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: you the Texas Rangers lineup one through nine from their last.

1015
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Game they played.

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00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and I'll tell you. I'll take guesses if

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00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: I know anything. Okay, leadoff shortstop Josh Smith. Oh, I

1018
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: was gonna say, don't even tell me the position. Let's

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Speaker 1: see if I can guess the position these guys are playing.

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00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: I'll go right after this. I'll do it so, Okay,

1021
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: hitting second, White Langford left field. Now you're gonna start

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00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: guessing positions. Okay, next to two, we're easy. Then it

1023
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: gets a little difficult. Hitting fourth, Jake Berger.

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00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: Wait, who hit third? Oh? Third?

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00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: D H Jack Petersons, Okay, sure, Fourth, Jake Berger's gotta

1026
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: be first base, got it, next.

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Speaker 2: One, next two, or couple easy ones as well.

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Speaker 1: Fifth Josh Young Josh Young, third, sixth, Kaylea Goshioka catcher, Sevenanrosuna.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's right field, right field? Got nice. Eight?

1030
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Speaker 1: Well, now you got two positions left and yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest. I'm gonna be fifty fifty to fifty shot

1032
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Speaker 1: for you here.

1033
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Eight. Cody Freeman. Damn, I wish I knew it was

1034
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: hitting ninth. I'm gonna go center field for Cody Freeman. Eh,

1035
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: wrong way? Who's ninth? Michael Hellman center field? Who is

1036
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Michael Hellman?

1037
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: Michael Hellman's a twenty eight year old rookie or twenty

1038
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: four five year old rookie. I keep I gotten these

1039
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: guys confused a couple of times this week to another.

1040
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: Come he's James, he's twenty nine. There he goes, Okay,

1041
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: I was getting him. Cody Freeman confused.

1042
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: One of them has been on three organizations already this season.

1043
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: The other one has just been a guy in the

1044
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: to win the Rangers organization. Shout out Michael Hellman, eleventh

1045
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: round pick back in twenty eighteen by the Minnesota Twins. Oh,

1046
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Speaker 1: Michael Hellman's been having a fucking week. Because now you

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Speaker 1: don't want me to tell.

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Speaker 2: You something right now? The Rangers know hot as shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what the Rangers just did.

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00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: Probably swept the Brewers. The Brangers just swept the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: That was the first time the Brewers have been swept

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Speaker 1: in like three or four full months. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to hear what Brewers manager Pat Murphy said about the

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Speaker 1: Rangers even after they lost the first two games.

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Speaker 2: Probably something good because he's a good manager. Take your

1056
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Speaker 2: hats off to Texas.

1057
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Speaker 1: I mean the way those guys played, the way they

1058
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Speaker 1: were relentless, they came back once we were ahead, and

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Speaker 1: they made great defensive plays. We're watching a kid in

1060
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Speaker 1: centerfield that can change the game.

1061
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Speaker 2: That's Michael Hellman. He ran Caleb Durban's ball down. That's

1062
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Speaker 2: not an easy ball.

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Speaker 1: Then he robs a home run from Terang And that's

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Speaker 1: the deepest part of our park in our park, that's

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Speaker 1: what he did at the plate. Again, he's been swinging

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Speaker 1: a back grade playing grade. We've obviously noticed that. But

1068
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Speaker 1: he's having some kind of series.

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Speaker 2: This kid.

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Speaker 1: We could intentionally walk him four times tomorrow. He hit

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Speaker 1: knife in the game the next game where he said

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Speaker 1: of past. Wor Ron mccuney junior has been hit in

1074
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Speaker 1: the Braves lineup disaster. But this is a Rangers team.

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Speaker 1: This is the antithesis of the Mets right now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: every single star that they've had has either got hurt

1077
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Speaker 1: or played like shit this season. Josh Young, who I

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Speaker 1: just told you guys, was hitting fifth in that game.

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Speaker 1: He was hitting third earlier in the week. He got

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1081
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: they were like bad, so bad. Corey seegers out. He

1082
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: had an emergency appendeck to me Marcus Enmei in fracture

1083
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: his foot in a foul ball. At least Garcia is out.

1084
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: They have Josh Smith has played six seven different positions

1085
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: this season, Dustin Harris, Alejandrosuno, Cody Freeman, Michael Hullman, Jake Berger,

1086
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Jack Peterson. These guys have come from the depths of

1087
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: hell to drag this team back into the playoff race.

1088
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: With Jacob the Grot pitching every fifth day, they play

1089
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: with their heads on fire. They absolutely never give up.

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00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: It is the exact opposite. That's what you see from

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00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: this Mets team.

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00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: Mets are like, we have a four to nothing lead.

1093
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: I struck out. I'm pissed, we're losing this game.

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00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: A bunch of the fucking babies. Patrick Corbin, please fucking

1095
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: hit this guy. I've seen too much Patrick Corbin over

1096
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: the years to let him have another game in city

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00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: field where he's got to pitch. Well, fuck this dude.

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00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely destroy him. And then Jacob Lat's Sunday. Interesting young pitcher,

1099
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: really fun fastball from a lefty. It's a love average philosophy,

1100
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: good cut right on it. It's an interesting pitch and

1101
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: he's been one of these guys that's come out of

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00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: just nowhere to be totally decent for the Rangers this season.

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00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Could you imagine.

1104
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: This conversation, this is the conversation we were having in May.

1105
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: In May, like, could you imagine in May that we

1106
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: would say on September in September, we'd be having this

1107
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: conversation on September.

1108
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: What September eleventh?

1109
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: I realized what I was gonna say, and that's why

1110
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: I stop myself. But it's it's it's truly unfathomable how

1111
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: bad the Mets have played.

1112
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: It's in comprehensible.

1113
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: I think I'm also at the point where, let's say

1114
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: this team drags himself to a miracle wildcard birth, and

1115
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: let's say you lose in that first three game Wildcard

1116
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: series across the nose, it might still get fired. It's

1117
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: worth forty five and twenty four. On June twelfth, they're

1118
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: seventy six and seventy one. The Mets have lost or

1119
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: Mets have won what thirty one games, thirty one and

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00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: and forty What is that? Forty seventy seven, thirty one

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00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: and forty seven. That's crazy, that's so, so, so bad.

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00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: I also think just because We've talked a lot about

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00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: the players in the team and how we don't really

1124
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: like the mix, but that's probably not going to change

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00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: because that's how sports work. I think this team might

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00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: just need a hard that's manager. I think they might

1127
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: just need one of those, like if you if you

1128
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: don't have the fiery player, you might just need the

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00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: fiery manager.

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00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't or is that the problem? I don't,

1131
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: is it not? You don't think there's a lack of

1132
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: fire Gusta.

1133
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: There's definitely a lack of fire, but maybe like maybe

1134
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't know the four hundred and thirty five foot

1135
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: home run the other To be fair, who is who

1136
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: is a fiery manager?

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00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: That's that's name, Darren Boone? I would give him. That

1138
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: guy sucks. No, I don't know who it is.

1139
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly just simply thought about like Terry Francona.

1140
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's exactly fiery, but he's at

1141
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: least like he's the guy, you know, I mean, he's

1142
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: just one World Series at least. Yeah, we're justally an

1143
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: old guy, an old successful guy.

1144
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: Not Buck. Not Buck.

1145
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: We had the old guy that had no success as

1146
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: much success for me to you as an MLB manager,

1147
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: except we don't have the manager of the year.

1148
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: You me Buck Showalter.

1149
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: Every single one of you guys listening to this the

1150
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: exact same amount of victories in the Championship Series.

1151
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: It's so toxic or even talking about him right now?

1152
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: Is that? I mean? This is this is team has

1153
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: made me toxical for this last month. This is bad.

1154
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: So since June twelfth, the Mets have less wins than

1155
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: the White Sox. The only team that's really played worse

1156
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: the metsin Shooting twelfth is the Giants.

1157
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: That's crazy. The Giants just got hot recently.

1158
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: I know the Giants are thirty four and forty fours

1159
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: in shoot twelfth. The Mets are thirty two and forty

1160
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: six and the Giants caught up. That's insane. It's a

1161
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: myth off the Phillies there. I saw a crazy stat

1162
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: Tirrants are way better than this. I think it was

1163
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: since like August fifteenth or some ding in the middle

1164
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter. Sorry, I'm not crediting whoever the says.

1165
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: The Phillies have gained eleven games on the Mets in

1166
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: the standings. That includes a sweep at the Mets had

1167
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: against the Phillies.

1168
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1169
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: The only teams are worse than the Mets in this

1170
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: span are the Nationals, the Twins, and the Rockies. And

1171
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: those are three organizations that actively said not trying to

1172
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: win baseball games this year. They're losing on purpose, on purpose,

1173
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: and the Mets are like hanging right around them.

1174
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: Give me fresh peppers. I was gonna say, shout out

1175
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: the plucky White Sox. Pull in that of us. It's

1176
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: fucking horrible. Can't wait to bet there over next season.

1177
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: But here we go. Wait, you want to hear something crazy? Yeah, sure,

1178
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: let's have seventeen saves since shoot twelve, that's nuts.

1179
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: Ft, fam, Let's talk about fair harbor. And if you're listening,

1180
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: I hope that you watch this conversation at some point

1181
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 5: because we're doing Show and tellcrats shorts they can be

1182
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 5: used as a bathing suit, and the liner, which we

1183
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: call butter, is the game breaker. It's the playmaker because

1184
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: it's different.

1185
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Your born shorts that are not like this, and the

1186
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: liner sucks. They are buttery on your butt.

1187
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: I just came up with something for them. Your liner sucks.

1188
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 5: Get fair harbor liner, seriously, give it a shot. I'm

1189
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 5: not just saying this. The butter analogy plays an ftfam.

1190
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 5: You know we're hooking you up, So head over to

1191
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 5: Fairharbor Clothing dot com. Slash foul twenty. Yes, that's foul

1192
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 5: twenty for twenty percent off your order. Once again, that's

1193
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 5: Fair Harbor Clothing dot Com. Backslash foul to zero for

1194
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 5: twenty percent off, and make sure you use that promo

1195
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: code foul twenty.

1196
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: Here comes Frankie.

1197
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: Frankie sent this message lightning quick after the game at

1198
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: nine thirty.

1199
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: This was my boy. You knew we had a heater.

1200
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Here's frank Gentlemen, this is Frankie Pepsy.

1201
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about The price is right.

1202
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the price is right.

1203
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: It's my favorite game show. I love you carry He's

1204
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: very funny. I was a big Boka fan when I

1205
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: was a kid. But like you know, maybe let's not

1206
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: discuss him right now because he might have done some

1207
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: unsightly things.

1208
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: But I loved the prices right. I love playing.

1209
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: I love it when they climbed the steps.

1210
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: I love it when they dropped the where's this going?

1211
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: They win ten thousand dollars? I love the only guy

1212
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: I loved that one, The Big Wheel, the Showcase.

1213
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah you spent a dollar, you win.

1214
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: A thousand Showcase Showdown. You bit on Prices is really great.

1215
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 3: It's my favorite show. I just wanted to tell you

1216
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: about it. And in the past forty five seconds, I've

1217
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: played as much baseball as the New York Mets played

1218
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: this weekend. Thanks boys.

1219
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: That's what we got was that was the bit that

1220
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: he played as much baseball as the Mets did this week.

1221
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's right.

1222
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: If The Price is Right was on at night, I'd

1223
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: be watching it over this team right now.

1224
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: Also, price is wrong, bitch, Price is Right is electric?

1225
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Shot out Papou my Greek grandpa for those of you

1226
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: who don't know Greek out there. When they like, they

1227
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: helped raise me because my parents were at work. I'd

1228
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: spend the mornings with them, and it was Prices Right

1229
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: every single day. He was locked in and he didn't

1230
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: know a lick at English, but he knew what was

1231
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: going on in Prices Right.

1232
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: He'd scream out numbers. Oh, there's nothing an immigrant knows

1233
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: more than how much something costs. He was locked in.

1234
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: He was so absolutely ready to fucking find the deal.

1235
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: The moments know this.

1236
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: If there was a game show that you could be on,

1237
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: which one would you choose? Oh that's a good question.

1238
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: What is some of the more?

1239
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean?

1240
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: I think I think that I could turn Family Feud

1241
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: on its head. Ooh interesting, How so I would love

1242
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: to bring analytics to Family Feud.

1243
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: You pass every single one, just pass, pass, Get to

1244
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: steal every single time, pass past past.

1245
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 2: I never want to play. No one ever completes the puzzle,

1246
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: of course not. It's impossible.

1247
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Pass every single time. Give me

1248
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: one shot to steal all your points. Let them get

1249
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: It's actually got to be the only way to play.

1250
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: Let them get all the bad answers out. You can't

1251
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: guess those they've been guessed.

1252
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: I watched an aston of Family Feud. No one ever ever.

1253
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: I looked into going out the Family Feud, but the

1254
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: price was so small, was not worth a week in

1255
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. No, I've I've definitely wanted to do prices right.

1256
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: I also wanted to play The Whammy. The Whammy was

1257
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: an electric game pressure luck.

1258
00:48:59,600 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1259
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: Also, shout out my Janella, he's a game show beast.

1260
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: I think he won the twenty five thousand dollars pyramid,

1261
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: which is an insane fact that I know.

1262
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: He was also on Jeopardy. He was on Jeopardy Mets

1263
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Show Network. That's seasons in Jeopardy. That's what is it?

1264
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: Mess season in peril? Yeah, uh, that was the episode.

1265
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: I hope you guys liked fifty minutes of me getting

1266
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: red in the face and screen page because.

1267
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: It will not happen the rest of the year. Done,

1268
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: this is it?

1269
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: You said that twice already this year. Yeah, because I

1270
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: thought they hit rock bottom.

1271
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: They've done it.

1272
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: If and when the Mets make missed the playoffs' sid

1273
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: this was my this was my my rant. I would

1274
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: just be like that sucked. Season's over. Can't yell anymore,

1275
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: can't care anymore. It's just it's not worth it's not

1276
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: worth my time to get this upset.

1277
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: Over it anymore. No, Yes, it's very it's very healthy

1278
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: and maturity. All right.

1279
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: That's a guys, Thanks for listening, Thanks for watching. Make

1280
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,880
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1281
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,399
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1282
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,239
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1283
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1284
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,360
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1286
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00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: At James Ciano.

1288
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Check out our new show at the wind Up on

1289
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: YouTube and all socials as well. Thank you guys for listening,

1290
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for watching. Jake de Graham's Gonna throw a

1291
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: no hitter. Don't forget that bet, Let's go Mets, Let's

1292
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: go a Mess. Can't wait to see Jacob de gram